A New John Doe Scandal Rocks Senate Dems

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3:09the glove, you've done the polo, they said they liked and never wore. Here's the one they'll actually use every single round, a Bushnell Rangefinder. It's what nearly every Tor Pro carries. The brand golfers ask for by name and if they don't have one yet, it's the thing they've been quietly wanting. Bushnell makes it easy. Rangefinders for the serious player. Watches for the one who wants the yardage on their wrist. A speaker that reads distances out loud and plays their music for the one who's mostly there for the cart ride. Plus get 30 day returns so there's no pressure. BushnellGolf.com. BushnellGolf. Know the number. A major scandal begins the Thursday edition of the program. A new John Doe investigation. Perhaps into the exact same potentially criminal conduct that ensnared the Milwaukee County Executive's office when it was run by Scott Walker. A state

4:11senate candidate by the name of Trevor Young may have spent a full calendar year committing crimes by campaigning on state time. Take this video, for example, which I pulled from Young's campaign Facebook page Trevor Young for state senate. I want to share the story of one of the reasons that I'm running for office. So as the transit director, we see folks who utilize public transportation to be able to support themselves. One of those people is Carol. Carol has worked at Target in Racine for over 25 years. She has cerebral palsy. She can't drive herself. And so she relies on this vital public service to get her to where she needs to go. Getting out of bed is harder for her than it is for most people, but she makes the point to go to work so that she has that dignity. That particular service or paratransit service saw a 40% cut by state government. 40% cut since 2010. That makes it harder for us to make sure that folks like Carol have the freedom and dignity of work. That's what this campaign is about. Making sure folks like Carol get to where

5:15they need to go to make sure that Wisconsin is a place no matter who you are, what your background is. You can call this place home. If it wasn't obvious that that was a campaign video, it was branded with Trevor Young for state senate, even though he is talking about transit issues and he does serve as the city of Racine's transit director, the director of ride, RYDE, the public transportation system, serving the city of Racine. He is clearly talking about campaign issues. He's talking about what he will do in the Wisconsin state senate. The only problem that video was posted during work hours and appears to have been recorded during work hours as well. In fact, in a big exclusive story that we first broke at the heartland post. This is the new digital media initiative that I serve as editor in chief of earlier today and we are breaking on the air right now.

6:16We found that young recorded more than a dozen full days of regular pay for regular work on dates where he was posting multiple campaign videos, hosting fundraisers and appearing at partisan events. This is according to employer time records that we obtained exclusively and cross checked with campaign schedules and events that were publicly available on Young's social media. Young is the democratic nominee for the 21st senate district in the race against Republican Jim Croft to replace the retiring GOP senator van Wongard. This is in southeast Wisconsin as you can imagine, Racine parts of Milwaukee County encompassed this district. Well, Racine employment records show that young marked full regular pay days on dates that coincide with clear campaign

7:17work. For example, on May 28th, he posted to his official campaign Facebook page that he had spent an earlier workday in Greendale for his campaign talking to voters quote about the issues that matter most to working families across Wisconsin. His work records show that he claimed to be working full days that entire week save for memorial day. There is a picture of him talking at what appears to be a nursing home. The picture makes it abundantly clear that this is not outside of work hours say during the evening. That in fact, this picture was posted during normal work hours which I would define as between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. or if you want to be generous 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. Now it's clear that a trip to Greendale for a speech would have encompassed a significant period of

8:18time. In other words, he was obviously doing campaign work on public time. Well, on May 19th, we also discovered that he claimed a full regular day of pay and hosted a campaign kickoff event. On May 5th, he was paid a regular full day of work and appeared in Jamesville at a fundraiser with other democratic candidates. Now, this behavior has stretched for the duration of Young's Senate campaign, which he launched almost exactly one year ago last September. We found on Thursday, February 12th, he claimed a full day of regular pay, but according to his official campaign Facebook page, he was in Franklin for a breakfast fundraiser posting alongside pictures of him talking to constituents. Franklin reminded me why this work matters. A strong turnout, real conversations about education and cost of living and the kind of energy that wins races.

9:18Huge thanks to the Franklin Dems for hosting such a wonderful event for our campaign. I'd like to share the same thanks to the volunteers and contributors who believe as I do, that Wisconsin can be affordable and that hard work ought to be rewarded. Let's keep building on that positive momentum in every part of the 21st. The post again makes it abundantly clear there is no work component to this event whatsoever. It is a campaign event. It is on public time. That is a violation of state law. Three weeks before that January 21st, Young also claimed a full day at Racine, but was meeting with the UAW Southeast Wisconsin CAP Council for his Senate campaign. This of course is a union. He said in a post that again was posted during regular work hours. Thank you for the work you do every day to advocate for working people fair wages, safe workplaces,

10:23and the dignity that comes with a strong voice on the job. I'm grateful for your support for our campaign. Our shared mission is building an economy where hard work is rewarded. Again, there is absolutely nothing having to do with Racine transportation at this event. It was not work related at all. It was entirely related to the campaign. As recently as July 13th, Young is posting on his official campaign page photos from a tour of a quarry that he had taken the previous week where his employment record also showed that he had claimed full days of work. There is a picture of him wearing a helmet, wearing a safety vest standing at the bottom of this quarry. I appreciated the opportunity to tour the Racine quarry last week and learn how limestone becomes the infrastructure we use today. Now you might think, okay, well, infrastructure for transportation stuff, right? Wrong. The stone produced here helps build the roads, bridges, and infrastructure that keep Wisconsin moving. It's also a reminder that investing in infrastructure

11:28means investing in good union jobs, a stronger economy, and a more competitive Wisconsin where workers and products can move efficiently. Not only was this posted to his campaign website, it is clear from the context of the post that the purpose of this visit was political in nature and had nothing to do with his job as director of Racine's transportation system. Wisconsin law specifically, Wisconsin statute 946.12 treats the use of public work time for partisan campaigning as a potential crime. Doing campaign work on public time or using public resources can and has been interpreted by multiple appellate courts constitute felony misconduct in public office. That is a class I felony. Not only that, this has been treated as a very similar,

12:31very serious campaign finance campaign scandal in the recent past. During the Milwaukee County John Doe investigation that began while Scott Walker was county executive and wrapped up while he was governor multiple aides were charged with doing campaign work on county time. Walker's deputy chief of staff Kelly Reinflaish pleaded guilty to felony misconduct in public office for extensive campaign fundraising and communications during work hours. She faced jail time. Darleen Wink pleaded guilty to related charges involving political activity on county time, going all the way down to Wink commenting on Milwaukee journal sentinel.js online.com stories and posting pro Walker comments that led to a criminal conviction. A candidate being so brazen into using county time city time public time taxpayer funded time for at our count. We are at

13:41at least 16 to 20 days just that we could find from publicly available Facebook posts just over the past several months. We also checked the Racine employee handbook which govern city employees including those in transit operations. It expressly provides quote employees may not engage in any form of political activity on the job and may not engage in political activity off the job to such an extent that it interferes with doing his her there job. Young is a full time salaried official. He is not an hourly worker whose pay is calculated minute by minute but that distinction does not authorize campaign work during hours when a full time public employee is expected to perform government duties. Kelly Reinflaish and Darleen Wink could not argue that since they were not

14:41hourly that rule did not apply to them between normal business hours where you are expected to be working for the city of Racine unless say you take a leave of absence. You are expected to be performing work. For example, I am not an hourly employee at I Heart Media. My hours on the air are between 3 p.m. and 6 p.m. While I am responsible for producing and delivering a radio show in between those hours, oftentimes my work stretches well beyond that. For example, I spent many, many hours looking at Trevor Young's time sheets as well as Trevor Young's Facebook and Twitter pages to put together this story to suggest that I am only bound by I Heart's expectation that I am doing work between the

15:41hours of 3 and 6 p.m. is to suggest that there is no other work that could possibly be going on. In other words, when I am getting ready for a radio show, I am expected to get ready for a radio show. It would be theoretically theft of time from my employer if I was say moonlighting doing some other work that isn't directly related to my responsibilities here. It becomes a massive issue because I Heart is the company. It is the only entity responsible for my pay. It becomes a massive issue for someone like Young because the city of Racine is signing his checks and the city of Racine is funded by taxpayers. When both the Racine employee handbook and more critically, the Wisconsin criminal statutes make this a serious crime, it is a very serious issue. Now, one could say,

16:45well, damn, this is something that everyone just sort of ignores only they didn't ask Kelly Ryan Flash asked Darleen Wink. This was a major scandal that dog Scott Walker in his first term and stretching into his second term. It was known as John Doe one, the John Doe investigation which was reported on endlessly and breathlessly by the same Milwaukee journal sentinel that actually did get involved in this race. Jim Croft, the Republican who's running against Trevor Young in this district to replace the retiring van one guard, he recorded a video at a Croger grocery store. I believe this was a pick and save in which he was talking about grocery prices or some such thing. The Milwaukee journal sentinel actually contacted Croger, the parent company of this grocery store and asked, Hey, is this a violation of your terms of service? And Croger said, yes,

17:48it is and asked Jim Croft to take down the video. The journal sentinel then ran a story about how Croger told Jim Croft to take down the video. Now that I have reported on Trevor Young's very real and potentially criminal scandal, one wonders if the Milwaukee journal sentinel is going to report on that because this isn't simply a grocery store chain saying, don't film a campaign video in our produce section. This is well established criminal law saying you are not allowed to do exactly what Trevor Young has been doing for a full year. In fact, let's go through a full year of Trevor Young campaigning on public time September 29th, 2025. He registers a full day of regular pay, he attends a democratic party event November 11th, veterans day again, full day of regular pay,

18:50he attends a veterans day event, not as the director of the recene transportation system, but rather as a candidate for the Wisconsin state Senate, the following day also full day regular pay young attends campaign events January 21st of this year full day of regular pay, he goes to that cap council event as a candidate February 9th, he attends a recene school event as a candidate and then posts the video of it posts about it on February 10th another day that he claimed a full day of regular pay on February 11th, we have got three straight days now where he's claiming full days of regular pay, the taxpayers of recene are paying this guy to direct the ride system, the transportation system, he's hosting a fundraiser March 23rd again, full day regular pay, hosting a fundraiser in Caledonia, two days later another full day of regular pay, he attends a

19:56teacher event and he's actually wearing in the Facebook post his campaign name tag, clearly he is identifying himself as a candidate, he is attending not as the director of the recene transit system, but rather as a candidate for the state Senate May 5th again full day of regular pay, he attends a fundraiser with Anne Roe and Mark Spritzer to legislative Democrats in Jamesville, hot recene, but Jamesville May 19th, he hosts that campaign kickoff event while also claiming a full day of regular pay, May 28th, he posts about meeting earlier in the week with voters, May 25th is Memorial Day, that's the holiday, he then uses a full day of pay and a sick day, this was the one time he appears to have tried to not get a full day of pay, he's still getting a full day of pay saying he is sick on May 27th, I believe no, May 26th, he used the sick day regular day of work is

21:01May 27th, but he's apparently going out and meeting with voters as documented extensively by his own Facebook page throughout the day. June 9th, he's out talking to voters in Caledonia, again, this is a weekday, the pictures accompanying this post identify this as being during the work day, July 7th full day of regular pay, he posts a video as well talking about why he's running for office, July 13th, this is the quarry tour, he said that that tour was the week prior, but the entire week right after the 4th of July 4th, the July of course was on a Saturday this year, so it was the 6th through the 11th, 10th or 11th, 6th through the 10th, these were days that he was on the clock, he was claiming regular pay all week long, he says he's going to a quarry, and again, he's going not as the recene transit director, but rather as a candidate. July 14th posts a video about why he's

22:03running for office, and then July 21st again takes a full day of regular pay and is shooting presumably and also posting a video about why he's running for office. All of these days constitute theft of government service, this is theft of government time, this is a crime, this is misconduct in public office almost assuredly, because if it was misconduct in public office for Kelly Reinflaish to be conducting campaign fundraising and communication calls and doing that sort of stuff, while she was supposed to be working for Milwaukee County, then certainly, Trevor Young, while he was supposed to be working for the city of recene, but rather was doing extensive campaign work for his own run for the state senate, this is an equally serious criminal offense that I'm sure will be treated equally seriously. It's a big exclusive story. You can read all of the details

23:06at the Heartland Post Heartland Post.com. We have got it up on my social media at Dan O'Donnell show on X Facebook across social media. You are listening to the Dan O'Donnell show and it's a conservative thought, not just talk. We broke what I believe is a very, very substantial, exclusive story, potentially a new John Doe scandal, which of course will never, ever, ever be treated as such, because it doesn't involve the Republican governor, but rather someone who's very, very well thought of in Democratic Party circles, he is the current recene transportation director, the director of the system down there they have called ride, R-Y-D-E. His name is Trevor Young. He's running for the Wisconsin State Senate, Senator Van Wongard, longtime senator, announced his retirement, and sadly, we do have some just devastating news to pass along.

24:07Wongard had cited when he announced in the spring that he just couldn't run for another term that he was dealing with a whole lot of family issues and number of his siblings had passed away. His daughter was battling cancer, well unfortunately, Van's daughter succumbed to her cancer battle. She lost her battle with cancer. You know what I hate saying? She lost her battle with cancer. She won, she fought valiantly, and her memory will forever be a blessing to those who knew her, my deepest condolences to my friend Van Wongard and his entire family. He announced with an incredibly heavy heart on Labor Day on Monday that his daughter had passed away. Van announced that he wasn't going to run again, very, very talented, good Republican by the name of Jim Croft, who I'm sure you've heard his ads on the Dan O'Donnell show. He's the one who has the dance academy, and he's got the Latin music and he's saying, hey, don't you don't want to dance with me, so I'm going to say that he's a great Democrat. Trevor Young did, Trevor Young announced that he was running for the Senate.

25:08He actually challenged Van Wongard when Van Wongard was still contemplating running again, young announced to run, and he is pardon the pun, a very young guy, and he is thought of as a potential rising star in Democrat circles. He is, he is very, very well regarded, and he announced his campaign last September. It is my very strong suspicion, although I couldn't get a record for this date. He had a campaign kickoff event almost exactly one year ago. I believe it was September 17th. That was on a weekday. It was on like a Tuesday, and there's a group of people behind him, and he's got pictures and videos. He was supposed to be at work. I went through and spent way more time than I probably should have spent cross checking. The day is that he's saying, yes, I worked a full day, full eight hour day, putting in Yomans work, transportation and recene is a very, very important thing.

26:15So you know, Dawg on well, I've got my nose to the grinds. Well, no, he was actually doing campaign work. He was going out. I can place him via his own Facebook page in Greendale, in Caledonia, in Franklin, in places that are very far from the city of Racine and very far from his office in the transportation department. Now, young has not answered our requests for comment after we received these records. City of Racine is apparently just fine. We think with this blatant violation of its own city handbook employee handbook, you are not allowed to do this. This is this is every city employee knows this while you are on city time while you are on public time. Every public employee should know this while you are on government time, you are not allowed to do campaign work. You are not allowed to do political work. Now, I've heard through the grapevine because young does not want to

27:20talk to me, apparently to borrow a phrase from his opponent, young apparently doesn't want to dance with me. I am sure he has now been made aware that the biggest radio talk show in the state has now picked up on this scandal, which apparently was well known that the reason that we at the heartland post were digging into this is because people in Racine were telling us, hey, look, this guy is never at the office. This guy is constantly campaigning and take a look at his social media. He's basically openly bragging about the fact that he is campaigning instead of doing work. So if he wants to call and try to explain this, I would very strongly suggest having a lawyer present on the phone because that's just how serious this is. This isn't Dan O'Donnell making a mountain out of a mole hill. The Milwaukee County District Attorney's office in its John Doe

28:24investigation set the precedent. Kelly Reinflaish, deputy campaign or deputy chief of staff, excuse me, deputy chief of staff for County Executive Scott Walker was caught doing a fraction of what we have caught Trevor Young doing. She was basically doing campaign calls. She was coordinating fundraising events. She was sitting at her desk in Milwaukee County and she was doing campaign work for walkers run for governor. Darleen Wink was quite possibly the single most unfairly targeted person in Wisconsin history. She was going on jas online dot com back when jas online dot com had comments. You could comment on individual stories. They stopped that one real quick. By the way, at the heartland post, we do not have comments and it has nothing to do with. Oh, people are going to troll or afraid of differing. No, it's because it's real easy for bots and now aIs to simply spam.

29:28And frankly, I don't want a whole lot of ads for generic Viagra on my website. So the journal sent them very smartly. I think also decided we're not going to have comments anymore. But back in 20. What was this 2009? Yeah, 2009. This was 2010. I believe was when the John Doe investigation really ramped up when Walker was running for governor for the first time 2010. Then of course, you had the recall election 2012 ran for real election one in 2014. So the comments. You could see Darleen Wink during campaign or during public time. She's going on jas online dot com and commenting in support of her boss, Scott Walker. That was considered a violation of stash. That was considered misconduct in public office. The notorious Darleen Wink, who is like the sweetest woman you could ever possibly meet,

30:31very active in Republican women events. We love you, Darleen. I know she's a regular listener. Kelly Ryan Fleisch also about the sweetest kindness nicest person you could ever meet. They went at her with the full bore of prosecutorial might in Milwaukee County. Will the Racine County district attorney do likewise? That remains to be seen. Racine County actually is a very, very good DA by the name of Trisha Hanson. I don't know if she is supporting the croft campaign. I'm really not up on Racine County politics. If so, she may have to recuse herself. There may need to be a special prosecutor who's named. This is criminal. This is criminal misconduct in public office that can rise to the level. Look, go to the statute or better yet. It is linked at heartlandpost.com. Check it out. Read it for yourself. The courts have

31:32interpreted doing campaign work on public time doing exactly what we have Trevor young dead to rights on as potential felony misconduct in public office. We have got another Democrat actually going to jail for his crimes. I can't believe this is happening in David Crowley's Milwaukee County, but here we are. Plus Packers running back Josh Jacob cops a plea. All of that. Plus the unhinged liberal of the day coming up next when the Dan O'Donnell show returns. Hey, speaking of misconduct in public office. How about our old friend, Teermann Spencer, the now former Milwaukee city attorney who just may have been the single worst public servant in honest to goodness with sconson history. Spencer was convicted about a month ago of misconduct in public office. He is actually going to spend time in jail. He was convicted. I guess it was July

32:40of felony misconduct in office. He was sentenced to six weeks in jail plus a fine other conviction, other conditions. He was acquitted on a related misdemeanor separate felony cases involving alleged real estate scheme and bail jumping remain pending. Teermann was charged in October of 2024 after an investigation found he used his office between midway through about 2022 early 23 for personal benefit. He sold a building on Martin Luther King Drive to a businessman by the name of Mohammed Gaffar with an arrangement allowing Teermann to keep storing and restoring classic cars there. He directed city attorney staff to draft a legal memo aimed at stopping department of neighborhood services inspections fees and required repairs that would have cost thousands of dollars. Prosecutor said he intimidated inspectors failed to disclose his interest in the property and

33:43misled investigators. Milwaukee County jury convicted him of the felony in late July. Found him not guilty of obstructing an officer. He was sentenced to three months of confinement at the Milwaukee County Community Reintegration Center. Half of that was stayed. This means that the sentence is imposed but you don't actually have to serve it. It's immediately stayed. So half of the sentence has been stayed meaning he's only going to serve six weeks. He has to pay a $7,000 fine, do 100 hours of community service and this is my favorite part of the sentence. Ready for this? He has to take a cognitive thinking class. The former city attorney of the city of Milwaukee. Ladies and gentlemen, when we say that you cannot possibly be more dysfunctional than David

34:44Crowley's Milwaukee County, I mean there are I think I can count on both hands the number of people in elected or appointed positions in the city of Milwaukee or Milwaukee County who are competent and apparently have cognitive thinking skills. Do you know what the city attorney is? The city attorney represents the city of Milwaukee in lawsuits against the city. The city attorney will handle municipal issues. The city attorney is basically the city's attorney. Hence the name. Goinkies office is apparently no better. They just had to fire somebody who just decided, well, in a massive lawsuit against the city, we're not going to file a required briefing when the plaintiff filed for summary judgment. The judge is saying, okay, city of Milwaukee, we

35:46sort of need your filing here. Filing never arose. Filing never came in. Then the assistant city attorney says, well, we had computer issues. The judge absolutely raked the city attorney's office over the calls saying, we wait for weeks for a response and you come up with the equivalent of the dog ate my homework. Back to Tehrman Spencer, a second case, which was charged last October and uncovered during a phone search in that first investigation. Allegiance that Spencer, who is just, he is, this guy is just comically corrupt. He and real estate agent Kenard Rag acquired a Milwaukee home from an estate for $8,000 well below its assessed value. By bypassing proper probate and misrepresenting the properties worth to the seller, the deceased owner's grandson, they then turned around and listed it for $245,000,

36:54which is a lot closer to its actual value. Charges include conspiracy to receive stolen property, money laundering, slander of title and falsely exercising public office. A third charge of felony bail jumping was added in May after Spencer allegedly left a voicemail for a no contact witness, a probate attorney offering business, which prosecutors described as a veiled bride. I'm telling you, the man is just comically corrupt. Believe it or not, he is actually going to spend time in jail. Just six weeks for a severe misconduct in public office, he does still have that second case hanging out against him. When we come back here on the Dan O'Donnell show, we name the unhinged liberal of the day. No stranger to this designation, quite possibly the most unhinged human being in the state of Whistler is day two of the midterm convention down in Dallas. Day one, consider

37:57a massive success. All anyone is talking about, though, is President Trump's promise of a $5,000 dividend check if Republicans are able to sweep both the House and the Senate. Weirdly enough, they are not covering it in the media. The same way that then President-elect Joe Biden was promising $2,000 stimulus checks if the two Georgia Democrats won in their runoff election. We will get into that coming up after the four o'clock hour and then we will get into a deeper tribute and a look back at the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk. One year ago today, he was gunned down, assassinated by a deranged liberal and it is time now to name the unhinged, but today better identified as deranged liberal of the day. He is the most despicable human being in the gutter of politics in Wisconsin. Kirk, bangstead, the constantly attention starved

39:03low life who runs the scam shuttered Menacua Brewing Company, made a predictably vile post marking the anniversary of Kirk's assassination, referencing the fact that we here at the Dano Donald show were the ones that brought him international condemnation for his vile post the day after Charlie was assassinated. He wrote today exactly one year ago the Menacua Brewing Company told the truth about Charlie Kirk. He was a paid magas show whose job was to spread racism, misogyny, anti-intellectualism, anti-vax and pro-gun propaganda throughout college campuses. In short, Charlie Kirk was a bleephole who damaged America. We said something similar to that effect a year ago and given the anniversary we figured we'd say it again. Charlie Kirk was a bleephole who damaged America. Charlie Kirk was a beloved figure who was still mourned a year later when Kirk bangstead is gone. Nobody will mourn him, nobody will remember him, and nobody, and I mean nobody

40:09will weep. Kirk bangstead, the most despicable human in Wisconsin politics. We're right back. We are still dealing with the ramifications of Charlie Kirk's assassination a day that revealed a whole lot of our fellow Americans to be not nearly as vile or as open about just how depraved they are as Kirk bangstead who is sort of the raging id of every leftist, but a whole lot of people, your choir teacher, the lady you sit next to at church, all took to social media it seemed and posted just the most awful things about Charlie Kirk as though that was a license to just behave in a depraved awful manner. We are going to get into that and unfortunately what we lost when Charlie was assassinated and the movement I think that initially was sparked. It was I think fitting

41:15in a way that Charlie was assassinated the day before 9-11 because his death at 9-11 itself, which we're going to reflect on 25 years after September 11, 2001 tomorrow, there was initially a burst of religious revivalism of community, of faith, of solidarity that quickly gave way to the crass divisions of politics. It wasn't just the left, it wasn't just the predictably awful things and there were a number of universities that had Charlie Kirk look alike contests where you would dress up and have like a blood stained neck Charlie was shot through the neck and unfortunately the videos were all over. I mean this was a father. This was a husband. This was a good decent man. Coming up a little bit later, I'd like to

42:18play a portion of Charlie's speech to focusing on really focusing on Generation Z, his generation, I guess technically he might have been a younger millennial, but the hope that he had for the future, he was a human being and yet because there was disagreement with his politics, a whole ton of people, hundreds of thousands of them thought it was perfectly fine. We'd seen this. Of course, when Antidence Scalia died in what was at 2016 when Rush Limbaugh died in 2021, we saw leftists behaving foolishly. You'll notice that there was never there, there was the last prominent leftist to pass away. Jimmy Carter, when Jimmy Carter died at age 100, there was some honest reflection about the success or failure of his presidency. I believe his presidency was a failure and I believe post presidency, he might have been even worse because of how he was just

43:21vehemently viciously anti-Israel and literally interfering in subsequent president's ability to work in the Middle East. There was nobody saying I'm glad he's dead, celebrating his death Ruth Fader Ginsburg when she passed away a couple of weeks before the 2020 presidential election, was there a single Republican giddy over the fact or posting mocking memes of Ruth Fader Ginsburg? It really reveals character, it really does. Beautiful, what year of this? While the left is still trying to play that gotcha game, you make a bad joke about a Democrat, oh, we're going to cancel you, I'm sorry, the same people that you're gloting over Charlie Kirk's death, you're literally posting mocking memes for weeks and weeks and weeks. Okay, we're not going to play that game anymore. Nothing actually made me happier than when people

44:25lost their jobs for that. Finally, finally, you get a taste of your own medicine. Cancel culture, start, you started it. You want to play it, you're going to mock just heartlessly mock an innocent man's death because you disagree with this politics, okay? Folks, I'll tell you what, nothing radicalized me against those, and I don't like talking about, you know, telling personal stuff about that, that, that, if you'll notice, I stopped talking about a lot about specific stuff involving the kids, my wife, family, it stopped that because, frankly, I saw myself as a tar, I got a concealed carry permit almost immediately after Charlie was assassinated, and nothing radicalized me quite like the next morning. I was driving my daughter to school and she asked me, so 11 years old. And she asked, Dad, did you know that guy who was killed

45:28yesterday? I said, well, honey, I didn't know him, but, you know, I'd met him and I talked to him and hang it out with him at the RNC for a bit, wouldn't say I knew him. She asked, do you do the same job as him? I said, well, kind of, you know, he's a bit more famous than Dad. He had a massive network and, you know, it's just incredibly successful at what he did, but yeah, we kind of do the same thing. I said, well, where was he killed? I said, well, honey, he went to go speak on a college campus and she thought for a little bit and asked, do you ever speak on college campuses? This little girl was concerned that some deranged psychopath, free trans leftist, was going to murder her father. Folks, I'm, these are dangerous sick people and that was my biggest takeaway.

46:35Not everyone is, you know, capable of murder. Very few are, but if given the chance, I think there are a frightening number of people on the political left who would take me out, who would take out Trump, who would take out Vance, who would take out Clay and Buck Ben Shapiro, anyone in everybody have given half a chance. They are psychotic. And that to me, the revelation last year that so many people are that psychotic and can take such glee in an innocent husband and father being gunned down because they don't like his politics and trying to justify that. Well, he, and this coming right on the heels of another innocent man who was not a public figure. The CEO of United Health Care, Brian Thompson, to justify and celebrate his murder and celebrate his

47:35assassin as some sort of modern day Robin Hood. And do we have a sick? And please do not try to both sides this. Please do not. One side glorifies one side celebrates. One side has a, a death coat. Look at, look at Lindsey Clancy. Are there any conservative Lindsey Clancy supporters? Say, you know what? We just need to, we need to understand. We need to be kinder to the vicious child murderer. As we get into the daily Trump date, the Charlie Kirk show on radio and on real America's voice, the cable news network is still going on. One year after his death, it's been hosted by rotating cast of people. I believe now there is a permanent host or host JD Vance on the Charlie Kirk show, remembering Charlie one year after his assassination today. It's hard to believe that

48:37he's been gone for a year. Yeah, I mean, Charlie was obviously a very dear friend. I mean, you know, I've kept in close contact. And Usha has with Erica and with the kids. And you know, I always just first and foremost, think of this as a human tragedy. You know, you think about the kids, you think about as a young father, myself, you know, what memories will the kids have of Charlie? I think about, you know, selfishly the ways in which I wish he was around for my own selfish reasons, you know, I think about, yeah, man, I just really wish I could call Charlie and get his advice on this. So I really wish I could call Charlie and get his help on this. And yeah, it's just, you slowly over time realize that, you know, first it's you pick up the phone and your dial is number and then you hang out before you answer and the closer you get to this year mark, you realize he's just not there anymore. And it's one of these things where I think everybody greaves differently and everybody responds to it differently. But the way that I just constantly almost obsessively come back to it is this was a guy who just had so much life to live. That so many people loved him and so many

49:41people who were lied upon him who depended upon him and were all in our own way. And some ways big and small obviously the biggest holes for Eric and the kids, but all of us I think have this whole that we're all trying to fill or all trying to at least find some way of making sure that we carry on in Charlie's absence. We are going to coming up at about 435 talk about the legacy of Charlie Kirk with turning point USA Wisconsin president Brett Galashesky somebody who did no Charlie worked with him. What is TP USA doing one year since the assassination that's coming up in about 20 minutes. President Trump, of course, made reference to Charlie and his past got night one of the midterm convention night two is going to feature JD Vance, the vice president delivering the keynote address president Trump is expected to speak earlier today. He was at the national Medal of Honor Museum taking a brief vacation from the midterm convention to honor America's

50:44Medal of Honor recipients. I'm thrilled to be here at the National Medal of Honor Museum. It's got a great reputation already all over the world, but it's very special for all of us, very special for me to be here. It's American treasure devoted to the best and bravest warriors of our country. And frankly, it's really the best they've ever produced the 3536 recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor. And as you probably heard, we have a few more coming your way. Very brave people. The president making that visit in Arlington, he privately toured the museum at opened in March of 2025 is the only facility dedicated solely to Medal of Honor recipients. He spoke at a ceremony about 15 of the 65 living recipients attended along with House Speaker Mike Johnson,

51:45Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, also attending President Trump honored those recipients in attendance. Those honored in this museum did more than answer the call. They stormed into Hellfire and crushed America's enemies. They had bravery like few people could even think of having. They carried the wounded out of battle and their own backs. They carried them back and forth. I have stories that as I had the honor of giving out a lot of Medal of Honours and some of the stories I'm reading them. I'm reading. I like to be a little prepared. So I'd study it a little bit before I went up there and discussed it. And I said, boy, these people are brave. But they gave their bodies a shield for their brothers and arms. They stood in the way of bullets, purposely just standing just like this and taken bullets. And it's amazing. These are amazing. I see why Charlotte's so committed to it.

52:48You know, because you just don't meet people like this. They stood tall when the country needed heroes. And we will remember them all for what they did. The soul of people in this room and all of those great Medal of Honour winners that are no longer with us. The President also signed the Herschel Woody Williams National Medal of Honour Monument Site Location Act, the privately funded monument, which has been named for the last surviving recipient of the Medal of Honour from World War II. He passed away in 2022. It'll honor all Medal of Honour recipients on the National Mall in Washington, DC. The President said today a new site would be selected rather than the originally considered plot near the Lincoln Memorial. He promised it's going to be the best site in Washington. The big story coming out of night one of the midterm convention. Of course, President Trump promising a $5,000 dividend to every single adult, legal adult in this country,

53:50if Republicans win both the House and the Senate. But what we're doing is because we've done so well and because our country is making so much money that only I can make this promise to you. And here is my promise. If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, both of them, because of our economic tremendous economic success, like in history, we've never had anything like what's happening. But because of our tremendous strength and success economically, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. Now that would probably cost about $1.25 to $1.3 trillion, based on the calculation of about $255 million adult citizens in this country. Where would that money come from? We're not entirely

54:55sure. Can the President simply dig into what was it that Barack Obama came to get some money? What kind of a money Obama money? Where is he going to get it? I don't know his stash. Remember that famous sound bite? The Obama money, there is no Trump money. Congress would need to appropriate this. This is why President Trump is saying if both this is not a bribe, Trump is not going to dig into his private Trump reserves of a trillion dollars or so and give everybody $5,000. What he is saying is that if Republicans win the House and win the Senate, they would be in position to pass legislation that would authorize $5,000 to every American. Frankly, ladies and gentlemen, just so you don't think that I am just parroting all of this stuff that Trump says and going along with everything, this would be incredibly inflationary and probably not look. If the $1,500 stimulus checks that Joe Biden was giving out and by the way, Biden promised

56:01that if John also off and Rafael Warnock won the Senate runoff in Georgia giving Democrats the Senate majority, which they eventually did win as also off and Warnock both won their runoff races in what was it early January of 2021 that the $2,000 stimulus checks would happen. Well, it turned out it was $14,500, not $2,000 and it was incredibly inflationary. What do you think $10,000 per married couple would do? $5,000 for every person in this country. This would be the dictionary definition of the Milton Friedman helicopter drop of money. I do not think this is a good idea. It's probably also not going to happen much more on the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk. Right now though, Charlie Kirk a few years before his death was actually asked, how do you want to

57:05be remembered? How do you want to be remembered? If I die, everything just goes away. How would you, if you could be associated with one thing, how would you want to be remembered? I want to be remembered for courage for my faith. That would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life. Well, he certainly did. He died for the conviction that he had. You see, for Charlie and for a lot of people who do this, it's not just about politics, it's not just about faith or culture, it is all wrapped up into one broader worldview. The reason that I think I'm so drawn to politics and so drawn to constitutional law and the stuff that we talk about here on the Dan O'Donnell show in psychology and sociology philosophy is because it is all about getting to the root of understanding the why of human existence. Why are we the way that we are? Why do people think and why do people do what they do? Why do they think the way they think? That's the thing that really, and then the

58:11the biggest why that there is. Why are we here? Why do we exist at all? Why is existence actually a thing? I mean, these are some of the deepest questions that human beings can possibly ponder. And to try to answer them is what a lot of people throughout history have dedicated their life to and what Charlie I think tried to dedicate his life to as well, making this country, making this world a little bit better off by getting closer to the philosophy that has served Western civilization and by extension all of humanity so so well that we have gotten so far afield from propelled by false idol, the bayal of Marxist socialism. He died for that conviction. He was gunned down by an assassin's bullet, not an exploding microphone, not the Israeli military, but by a deranged,

59:13left-wing psychopath with a free transgender boyfriend. I don't know how that is so difficult for so many people to believe or why Candace Owens, well actually I think the why of Candace Owens is very obvious because she's a narcissist because she needs to have everything revolve around her and she needs to get to get attention in this business to to draw attention to your philosophy to get more people more eyeballs on you more ears on you more people paying attention to you in in the tick-tock driven short attention span media escape that we now all exist in. You need to say increasingly provocative stuff. You may have noticed if you follow me on social media, by the way, at Dan O'Donnell show on X and Facebook, I have been starting to clip

1:00:13the video of this show into shorter bite-sized segments, which is how people consume the vast majority of talk content. Look, I'm an old fart. I'm 45 years old. A lot of you folks listening to me right now, we consume long-form content in a way that younger generations don't. You heard me in the opening segment of this show, build the case systematically that state senate candidate Trevor Young has violated state law, has committed misconduct in public office by doing a year's worth of campaign work on public time. He works for the city of Racine as its transportation director and he's been campaigning for state senate while simulta- we have his time cards, we have all of the records. He said, yes, I worked a full day at the city of Racine today. He was in fact going out and campaigning. A lot of people won't listen to the 15-20 minutes it took to build that case.

1:01:15We'll clip it and you'll have the 30 second, 45 second, maybe minute and a half Cliffs Notes version of what it was we were talking about. Well, you might watch that, you might not. I might get more followers. I might not, but if I say something provocative like Charlie Kirk was killed by the Jews. Yeah, that's going to grab some attention and ultimately, Candice has been going deep into anti-semitism for a long time. So the increasingly bizarre conspiracy theories, the one that the first lady of France is actually a man. So well, the brother has not been seen in public and the brother actually became Brigitte Macron. And no, the brother was at both of Emmanuel Macron's investiture ceremonies is swearing in ceremonies like we've seen him. He's standing right there, Candice. What are you talking about? Then after that blew up in her face, she's getting sued for a whole lot of money by the Macron's and frankly, that is like textbook

1:02:19defamation. It's folks, it's weird. And this is the thing that I've never understood about the Alex Joneses of the world. The truth is wild enough. You don't need to extrapolate from that wild nonsense. Emmanuel Macron, Brigitte Macron was dating Emmanuel when he was like 16 years old. That's creepy enough. Okay. So then she moved on to the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory. And within probably two months, you had a substantial number of people rejecting the idea that somehow Charlie Kirk was killed by exactly who you would think Charlie Kirk would be killed by a deranged leftist. But instead he was killed in this dramatic conspiracy theory. All right. We were going to step aside for a break. But now let's go with the, you know, we've got Brett Galishezky on the phone.

1:03:26He has got a new title. I guess national enterprise director for turning point action. He is my longtime friend, longtime director of turning point Wisconsin. Congratulations, sir. National enterprise director. That's got a good, that's got a good ring to it. Brett Galishezky joining me from down in Dallas at the Republican midterm convention. How you doing, sir? Hey, I'm good, Dan. Thank you for having me on today. I really appreciate that. The pleasure is all mine. I wish it were under better circumstances. Obviously, what has it been like today within the turning point organization on such a horrible anniversary? Well, yeah, you're right when you say that. It is a horrible anniversary. It's a tough day for us at turning point. It really marks the one year point. And what's been a really tough year for us both from an emotional front and just from a building front having to build out double and triple our infrastructure at turning point without Charlie and our year guiding the way. But

1:04:26I'll say we're finding a lot of solace in the thousands of people that have reached out. We had a beautiful ceremony this morning at our Phoenix headquarters where we actually unveiled a Charlie statue of him, you know, that famous shot minutes before he was killed of throwing that out in the crowd. It's beautiful. They had a great tribute to him last night at the R&C midterm convention. I have another one for him tonight. We as an organization, I think the left things that they took out the guy with the microphone. The reality of the situation is that they have no idea what they've done. They've created a revival on college campuses. So many young people coming into the fold and that's the torch that Charlie lit. Are you still seeing that a year later because I know there was a massive explosion in turning point chapters, turning point membership. Did that die down at all or is that still going strong? Not even close to dying down. I mean, we're having turning point events without Charlie and hundreds, if not thousands of students are still showing up. We're having a big event in Utah tonight where we expect a couple thousand

1:05:28students to show. So, you know, really you're seeing now, I think for the first time, students that are no longer afraid to sit in the shadows, sit in the back of their classes. They're realizing because of Charlie's words that it's okay to be a conservative, that they're not alone, and despite what their professors around them are saying, it's okay for them to express their Christ like conservative values. So, you're seeing remnants of that all over the country. That's fantastic because I saw that initial revival of church going, you saw young people turning to conservatism, turning to turning point, and we were talking a little bit, and if you rather not address this, I completely understand, but it seems like that all sort of turned, that all sort of changed when you had that conspiracy theory sort of take hold. When you had the Candace Owens fueled, oh, well, it was Erica Kirk was, I mean, just truly

1:06:29insane, deranged stuff that you would expect from the left, right? But we were getting it from our ostensible allies. Do you have a kind of reaction to that? Just what the last year has been like in terms of the reaction to Charlie's death? Yeah, I'll say that's where there's TDS, Trump, D'Arrangement Syndrome, and there's TPDS, Turning Point D'Arrangement Syndrome. That's always existed. The good news is, and I travel all over the country, I travel a lot with Charlie. We saw these people, the friends right often. The good news is that it's a small number of people that sometimes have the loudest voice. They are not nearly the majority of the conservative movement. We have a movement to build. We're going to put on our blinders. We've been putting on our blinders. The devil runs through distractions, and we're going to keep building out this movement and changing that next generation. So I got to ask you, you did spend a lot of time with Charlie. I remember we talked immediately after his passing. You were very broken up about it. What is the

1:07:32thing you missed most about him, the person? Somebody you worked with, somebody that you knew, somebody that you would consider a friend? Yeah, I learned a lot from Charlie. The best way that I can describe Charlie is that he wasn't just a leader. He was truly a visionary. He saw things that others didn't. He had this rare ability about him to take a small idea and turn it into something a lot bigger than we ever could have imagined. Really, with Turning Point, what started on a few college campuses, which I don't think a lot of people realized, the first Turning Point U.S.H. chapter was actually at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. I really actually recently came to light-air, I actually talked about it at his memorial service about a year ago that that really came to a set that he set up shop that. Yeah, that is mind-blowing. I did not know that. It doesn't get talked about enough. So Charlie's from the Chicago suburb, but recognized that if this was going to gain any momentum, he needed to do it in a swing state. And remember, at the time, this was the state of Scott Walker, ranked previous Paul Ryan's, a very big Republican stronghold,

1:08:35versus a state like Illinois, where he was from that had liberal controlled everything, including an attorney general that could go after him for a five-o-one-three status. So there was a lot of strategy involved with that. But it exploded into a national force, and the idea has never stopped with him. The work never slowed, and we clear a major hurdle, and before anyone could catch their breath, it was always Charlie to be the first one in the room and say, okay, now let's build upon this and do this, this, and this. Now let's parlay the success of this win, and do something even bigger. Let's become the best in the movement at this. And that was truly Charlie. Relentless. His always his foot was on the gas, always thinking three steps ahead. And so, you know, on top of that, that, you know, I learned from him. I also learned the value of putting God in family before politics. I met Charlie shortly after I graduated from Marquette, and I was a political science major. So I was going to school with a bunch of policy ones, a lot of political, is people who are part of that DC swap out there at us now. Who don't necessarily value, you know, the same things that Charlie was talking about. So when I

1:09:39met Charlie, and after my limited interaction with politics up until that point, I met somebody similar to me in age, talking about going to church first before knocking doors, talking about putting your family and prioritizing that before anything else. I said to myself, this is somebody that I would run through a wall for, and it's been a privilege to be part of it ever since. Where does turning point go from here? Well, so we are doing much to your things off campus if you can believe it or not. So at turning point action, since Charlie's death, we've opened up offices in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Manchester, New Hampshire. We're building what we call the Red Wall, which was one of Charlie's visions. We believe that a combination of Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire is going to win us the presidency in 2028. We've been pretty overt about this Charlie and JD Vance, we're really good friends. We're very much in the JD Vance camp, so we believe that he's going to be the candidate that carries that torch, that Charlie lit. So we're going to be doing more events this year. We just endorsed Michael Alfonzo, the congressional candidate in northern Wisconsin,

1:10:4325 years old, conservative, young, very Charlie-esque. So we're going to keep supporting candidates that embody that mindset, and we're going to keep building the Red Wall, and hopefully keep this Republican momentum rolling. Now I've got to ask, Brad, because we haven't talked in a while. Are you still in Wisconsin? Have you moved out to Arizona? What are you up to lately? I'm still in Wisconsin. Okay, that's what I saw. Yep, so turning points, headquarters number two. So our second office that we opened up is in Waukeshaw, so I operate out of there. Still live in the Waukey County, I travel a lot. Actually after the R&C midterms, I'm going out to New Hampshire to work with former Dane County GOP Chair Brandon Malley. He runs the cancer office for turning point out there. He's doing great. So a lot of really cool things in the works. Wisconsin is still home. I'm device chair. They're a Republican party in Milwaukee. Sure. That was something that Charlie always made sure that that was clear with me that I could have a national role that allows me to stay in my hometown and work on the issues that I care about most. Well, I'll tell you what, Brad, when

1:11:44things slow down for you, which is probably going to be sometime around 2035, you and I got to catch up, grab some lunch. Please tell Brandon. I say, hi, huge, huge fan of him when he was the Dane County Republican Party chairman, huge fan of turning points work. TP USA dot org is the website or turning point dot org. I'm a dinosaur man. What's the website again? Yeah, it's a T P action T P action or T P USA dot com. If there's any young people listening that want to get involved in that movement for the young at heart, the off campus folk, TP action dot com is where you can find out about our many opportunities we have in Milwaukee area to get involved. All right, Brett, thank you so much. And my deepest condolences. Thank you again for taking the time. All right, now have fun at the convention tonight and honor Charlie's memory by really having a great time like we did at the RNC in 2024. Okay. I will. I will. Those were good times. Dan, I appreciate you having me on. You too, sir. He is Brett Galaschesky. I think again to Brett Galaschesky, he is a national

1:12:49director with turning point USA. He is actually a good friend of Charlie. He was with him almost from the beginning. He's been with turning point for seven years. I guess I didn't know that he was still with the Milwaukee County Republican Party. There is, I didn't want to bring this up in that interview, but there is a a long standing battle between the Republican Party. I won't say the Republican Party of Wisconsin. Well, actually, the Republican Party of Wisconsin, the executive committee actually tried to do an anti turning point resolution at its state conference. I want to say a year or two ago because they were concerned about people like Brett and the former chairman of the Dane County GOP Brandon Malley, who is now a high ranking official at turning point because they were concerned that turning point officials were coming in and taking over the party. Now,

1:13:52I do not, I try not to get involved in these civil wars on the conservative side. I don't take sides in primaries. I don't get into all of the drama here. I sort of try to call balls and strikes. I kind of see that as my role as being somebody who, what I always tell people is I never know when I might be called upon to moderate a debate. So I always have to be fair. And I try to be fair to Democrats. Look, I would love to have Trevor Young on to answer the very serious allegations that I have made about him potentially committing crimes by doing a year's worth of campaigning on public time when he was supposed to be working as the city of Racine Transportation Director. He's been campaigning for state Senate. I would love to have him on. I would take the entire five o'clock hour and talk to Trevor Young. So I'm not going to get into that battle, but that's sort of what's going on in Wisconsin as it comes down to turning point. And why I hate to say it, but I think

1:15:03a lot of the grassroots movement, a big, big part of it. Well, you know what, I shouldn't say that. I shouldn't say that. A lot of the momentum that we had that that 2025 after the big Trump win, it just I can't help but feel like a lot of it died with Charlie a year ago today. We fell back into the squabbling. We fell back into the the same nonsense that the circular firing squad. I know that's a terrible analogy to use. And trust me, it's not intentional. But the the the idea that we're at each other's throats, we're blaming with the blaming Charlie's widow. They're concocting some insane story about how she was trying to take a she was groomed to take over Charlie Kirk, who may have been a time traveler. Do people have any idea how insane this sounds? I'll tell you what, in this hour, let's take a listen to Charlie himself.

1:16:08This was from the 2024 Republican Convention in Milwaukee, gave an incredible speech aimed at to all the Gen Zers watching this convention on TikTok right now. I have a message just for you. You don't have to stay poor. You don't have to accept being worse off than your parents. You don't have to feel aimless and unhappy. You don't have to support leaders who lied to you and took advantage of you for your votes. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion, national decline is a choice. This November, we're going to choose success. We're going to choose to put the future of Americans first. We are going to choose to no longer be spectators this election. We together are going to do the work to save America. We are going to

1:17:10choose to work harder than ever before, to chase ballots, to vote early, to register new voters, and all of us together working harder than ever. We will fire the Biden Harris regime and put Donald Trump back in the White House where he belongs. God bless you guys. Thank you so much. No doubt in my mind that young man would have been president one day. No absolutely no doubt in my mind if he wanted it, if he wanted to get involved in actual elective office, that's how talented a politician, that's how talented a speaker and organizer that he was and you heard the themes there, the universal themes, the way he was able to galvanize young people who felt as though they were left behind that they were in far worse shape than their parents were because you have an entire generation of politicians who put the interests of illegal immigrants getting millions of them into

1:18:13the country and treating them like the first class citizens that American citizens should be treating the forgot the theme of last years or two years ago's convention was the forgotten Americans and generation Z the people that Charlie Kirk was able to rally and able to galvanize Charlie was a big reason that generation Z males are about the most conservative generation of young people in at least a half a century. It's because they feel forgotten. They feel as though by virtue of their skin color, by virtue of their sex, by virtue of their gender, that they are the enemy. He said no, we are Americans. We are proud and we can choose to avoid this decline. We'll be right back here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. One day from today, the nation marks 25 years since 9-11. We are of course here on the Dan O'Donnell Show going to do some remembrances, some tributes. We

1:19:14have got an interview lined up with someone who is trying to keep the memory of 9-11 alive for people who weren't even alive to have experienced it. What's kind of amazing to me is that a full one third of the people in this country, a hundred million people, were not alive when 9-11 happened. That is, I mean, the passage of time is inevitable, right? But for those of us who do remember everything about that day, I mean, it's it's shocking just how much we remember. And do you know why that is? Why, why, you know, we remember things that there are some things that are just seared in our minds. It's because of the way the brain processes everyday things. It's the same reason that when you get older, it feels like time is moving so much faster. It's because our brains

1:20:16have much more information to carry. So there are more days that we just sort of, if it's a day like every other day, where you go to work, maybe, you know, go out to lunch with one of your co-workers, you have a beer with your buddy before you go home, you watch TV with your wife, you go to bed by 1030. It's it's all pretty routine, right? Your brain doesn't remember. It doesn't keep that information because there are some things that our brain just has to remember. Like the day your children are born, I guarantee you can remember a ton about those days. I just actually weirdly enough. Maybe why I'm thinking about this last night, just saw a video, I think on Facebook Reels or something like that. As I always say, I don't do doom scrolling, ladies and gentlemen, I do joy scrolling. I look at memes, I try to make myself laugh. My oldest son who's now out of

1:21:18college, he and I will send each other funny stuff that we come across of course conservative memes and stuff, but just anything and everything. But I came across one that really stuck with me, why you can remember walking home alone in a foreign city. Like if you go to say Rome and you're walking home, you'll remember every detail because it's something different. Your brain says, hey, this is information that we need to keep because it's not like other information. Your brain reacts to different stimuli. The reason you can still remember 9, 11, 25 years later, like it was yesterday, is because it was so different from everything else your brain had ever experienced before. Really interesting, physiological and psychological concept there. And that's one of the big reasons why if you ask what 60, what is 20, 26, 63 years since the John F Kennedy assassination,

1:22:21why so many people can still remember. I'm I think going to go maybe watch the football game tonight with my dad. I'm going to remember I'm going to ask him if he can still remember exactly where he was when JFK was a sass out Betty, Betty can Betty cat 63 years later. He's 80 years old. He was 17. I guarantee you can remember exactly where he was. Then I'll mess with him because he's so old. I said, do you remember? Do you remember when the first shots were fired at Fort Sumter starting the Civil War dad? Do you remember that? So yeah, tomorrow we are going to get into 9, 11 remembrances. I know it's going to be a full day. We also have a couple of big stories that we're going to break. I'm hoping I'll have enough information to go with them tomorrow. Again, big story we broke today. Trevor Young, who is the City of Racine Transportation Director is also a highly regarded Democrat candidate for the state Senate, almost certainly committed felony misconduct in public office by spending a full year campaigning for the state Senate while

1:23:27putting on his time card that he was working his day job. This is misconduct. The John Doe investigation into Milwaukee County when Scott Walker was county executive, unless we are willing to admit more than 15 years later lives that that was nothing more than a political witch hunt. I assume you will have a similar standard of disdain and similar desire to throw the book at young hot shot superstar in the making politician Trevor Young for his very obvious crimes. If Kelly Reinflaish committed misconduct in public office, the deputy chief of staff for county executive Scott Walker by coordinating fundraisers from her desk in the county executive's office for walkers run for governor that absolutely Trevor Young saying that he was working all day for Racine while actually attending fundraisers in Greendale, Franklin and Caledonia is 100% criminal misconduct. The complete story is

1:24:35at the Heartland Post Heartland Post dot com. You can find it on my social media or at the Heartland Post social media at Heartland Post W I or the Heartland Post on Facebook Facebook dot com slash the Heartland Post. You want to join the Dan O'Donnell show Carpetland USA flooring center talk in text line 414 799 1130 you can email me D O D at i heart media dot com just within the last hour the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee police department announced that it is discontinuing the use of flock cameras. This comes the same day that the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty filed a lawsuit in Waukeshaw circuit court over multiple local government's use of flock license plate readers and cameras. The suit targets 11 cities and villages in Waukeshaw county including O'Connorwalk, Mosquego to Berlin Brookfield, Waukeshaw multiple other

1:25:38entities as well as Waukeshaw County itself. It was brought on behalf of local taxpayers, homeowners and citizens groups, including no cams, Mosquego. There are more than 120 flock cameras in the county will argue that the warrantless searches of the flock location data base files violate the 4th amendment's protection against unreasonable searches. Now for those who are still new to this debate and it popped up almost out of nowhere within the last three or four weeks but this has sort of been bubbling under the surface for months if not the last year or more. Flux cameras will capture the license plate of your car. It will take photos of your car including details like bumper stickers that make it instantly identifiable and it will track your car's movement because the reason it's called flock it's a flock of

1:26:40cameras right. So there is a cameras that will basically follow your car as it moves throughout in this case, Waukeshaw County police can query the system meaning they can actually look into what data the cameras show for your car locally, regionally or even nationwide. And the big controversy is they can do so in most cases without a warrant or without even showing probable cause. What the flock database can do is using AI, it can reconstruct your travel history over a period of 30 days. According to Flux own materials presented to municipalities who would partner with the company, it can also help to predict future movements of that vehicle. This is hugely controversial. Now, will says in a statement accompanying the lawsuit, it does not

1:27:43want to ban the use of the cameras, but rather asks Waukeshaw County's circuit court to require a warrant for recognized exception or a recognized exception, I should say, such as some sort of emergency before a law enforcement officer can search the database. This would be very, very similar. Actually, we're talking about 9 11. This is very similar to a controversy that arose in post 9 11 America. As we got to a situation in which cell phones became ubiquitous. Smart phones, Apple iPhone just released its first folding phone. I still don't get why people are going so crazy over these folding phones. To me, the crease in the glass when the phone is not folded looks so ugly, I just don't think I could ever do it. But yeah, no, this is the big thing. And the big thing

1:28:47is now you can show, so let's say your ticket Apple is just so perfectly advertising this phone. Let's say you're taking the ad, there's a woman who is posing next to a fountain, like a big, fountain. The boyfriends taking her picture. And she is basically instructing him because she can see on one side of the camera, what he is seeing on his side of the camera. The joke is that this is going to end so many relationships that so many so-called Instagram boy friends are going to be so awful at taking pictures. The girl, the girl friends are just going to go, no, no, to the left. No, tilt up, up, no, that's down. Tilt it up. That man are just going to be tired of this. I just don't see the allure of it. But once the iPhone was put into mass circulation 2007, I would say by about 2010, it became ubiquitous. You had very serious concerns. And then,

1:29:53of course, you had in 2013, the NSA spying scandal where the NSA was using cell phone metadata. So there has always been, but especially 2010 to about 2013, about 15 years ago, there was always concern about searches of cell phone location data, cell phone metadata, like who you are calling. There were cases going all the way back to 2002, 2003, where anti-terrorism units, law enforcement seeking to stop terrorism were using what's known as pen trap and trace data in order to try to get into who it was that cell phones were calling, especially if they were numbers out of the country because they were trying to potentially plan terror attacks. Well, if you do this without a warrant, warrantless wiretaps was a huge controversy during the Bush administration in post 9-11 America. Well, now we have technology. I mean, just imagine this. We

1:30:59have technology that has the potential to palenter is a company that that predicts that they say they can predict terror attacks. They can predict threats to the American homeland. Well, we have a very real civil liberties concern here, where you can be looking at data of a car's movement without any reasonable suspicion that the driver of that car committed any crimes. The counter to this, though, is that you don't ever have a reasonable expectation of privacy when you're driving in your car on public roads. You see, this is a very, very thorny situation. If you make an individual observation of a car on a public road, a case from 1983 that the Supreme

1:32:03Court decided United States v. Nots provides that that's not a mosaic search, right? That's not a search of, you know, you're not being tracked. You're not being surveilled. What happens, though, if you aggregate a whole bunch of individual observations into a predictive record of someone's life, there's another case called US V Jones from 2012. If you have prolonged GPS tracking of a vehicle, that's considered a search that would require a warrant. What we have now is technology that sort of fits into that gray area. I would argue that the civil libertarian side of me says to access this stuff unless it's an emergency, unless say there is, I don't even know what would be off the top of my head, an emergency

1:33:12that wouldn't have probable cause. For example, if a car is seen speeding away from a homicide, that's probable cause right there. So you can get a warrant if there's no time for a warrant an officer can make a probable cause showing that can be subsequently upheld in court. It is admittedly a gray area that courts are going to have to very, very quickly decide here. But if you think about it, flock the advanced license plate reader or ALPR camera network is actually a whole lot closer to something we already have in the form of a traffic camera. The Department of Transportation here in the state of Wisconsin operates a massive network of cameras that can be accessed very easily and can be used to track the movements of somebody

1:34:14suspected in a crime or not suspected in a crime without a warrant. We're going to get into that aspect of this a fascinating debate that was just really launched into the stratosphere by both this lawsuit and pretty much I would say what, Racine Fondelac County, both announcing late last week they're not going to use flock UW Mattis or excuse me UW Milwaukee just an hour ago saying it's not going to use flock. This debate is really, really heating up. We're going to get back to banning flock cameras on campus. It's police department no longer going to use them. It is telling flock get all your cameras and advanced license plate readers off or excuse me, automated license plate. I keep saying advanced license plate readers, automated license plate readers. ALPR is the technical name for this type of camera, this type of software, this type of technology. Flock is the company name. Not only that, the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty

1:35:20has sued pretty much every single municipality in Waka-Shaw County, including Waka-Shaw County itself to force the use of warrants or to force law enforcement agencies to get a probable cause finding in order to access ALPR or flock data. Will says it's not trying to get the cameras banned. Look, I love Will. I love the Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty. I think they do incredible work there by far the best law firm in Wisconsin. Clearly, the practical effect of lawsuits like this is to be get rid of flock. I mean, what do you think municipalities are going to do? As soon as there's a judgment against one of them, they're all going to just disable their systems. They're going to instruct law enforcement not to use them. That's the practical effect. What if I told you flock helped solve one of the most notorious murders in recent Milwaukee

1:36:23history? The killing and dismemberment of Shade Robinson. Last year Maxwell Anderson was convicted of first degree intentional homicide, hiding and mutilating a corpse after the April 2024 killing of the young woman 19 years old. They had a first date and traffic cameras, pole cameras and ALPRs played a key role in reconstructing the movement of Robinson's car after it left Anderson's home. Robinson and Anderson were last seen together on surveillance video leaving a bar. They arrived at his home the evening of April 1, 2024. Neighbor cameras, other cameras from the area showed activity at the house into the early morning of April 2nd. At 1247 AM, a camera, a ring doorbell camera to be precise, showed her

1:37:28red Honda Civic leaving the area. Investigators then used city traffic cameras, utility pole cameras, and those license plate readers to follow the car for several hours. How did they confirm that the car was Robinson? How did they confirm that that was the Honda Civic that was registered to Shade Robinson because of license plate readers? It goes through the city of Milwaukee. It goes through downtown. It ends up at Warnamont Park in Kudahe. It remains there for an extended period of time. Robinson's severed leg later found in that park. There was nothing tying Maxwell Anderson to the murder of Shade Robinson other than the fact that he was the last person to see her alive. It was known that she was on a date with Maxwell

1:38:28Anderson. Her phone went back to Anderson's home. After that, there was no DNA data. There was no evidence. There was none of her blood, say, in Maxwell Anderson's house in her car. There was nothing. There was no physical evidence. There was nothing. In fact, the case was very unique because there was no direct tie between Maxwell Anderson and the murder of Shade Robinson. Prosecutors needed to make the case by inference that the person who was driving Shade Robinson's car, who went to the exact location where her severed leg was found. By the way, there was after in the morning, there was a person matching Anderson's description walking near the area where the civic was found burned out. Then there is a person who is clearly Maxwell

1:39:30Anderson seen boarding a bus from the camera on board that Milwaukee County bus. There was no camera that showed Anderson's face driving the car. But because of the license plate readers, because of the path, the time stamps, everything. Prosecutors were able to first police were able to make this case. Look, this car is going here. It's staying at Warnamont Park for a long period of time. What do you suppose he is doing at Warnamont Park? He is clearly dismembering the body. Remember, the body parts were washing up on shore at Warnamont Park because he had clearly dismembered the body and he had thrown the pieces of the body in the Lake Michigan. Prosecutors were able to make that case via inference because of the evidence provided by the license plate reader. The argument is that if you take away that tool, there is no chance that Maxwell

1:40:31Anderson is ever convicted because there was no evidence tying him to that murder. Simultaneously, well, wait a second. Shouldn't we then make sure that we're getting, oh, I don't know, a warrant for this because there's clearly probable cause here, right? Maxwell Anderson is the last person to see Shade Robinson. She goes on a date with him and then she never returns. Her Honda Civic is seen. Like police were able to go to the neighbors Ringdorbell cameras. They're provided with that data and they say, okay, well, the Honda Civic is here. We don't see Shade again and the Honda Civic is eventually found burned in what it was at the North side of Milwaukee, South side of Milwaukee, somewhere. The same Milwaukee has burned out the next morning. How did it get there? Well, clearly you can go get a warrant because there's

1:41:31probable cause or at least reasonable suspicion that whomever was driving, Shade Robinson's car around was very likely the person who killed and dismembered her. And since we can paint that picture, since we can use all of those cameras to track Maxwell Anderson, it's very obviously Maxwell Anderson, right? The flip side of that is, well, what about somebody who didn't just commit a murder? What about somebody who just happened to be dating say a Milwaukee police officer? The potential for abuse of ALPRs is very, very, very strong. And that's not just a hypothetical. Milwaukee police officer did in fact access Fox camera database more than a hundred times to stock a paramour. That's lover for those of you in Rio Stalas.

1:42:36That's where it becomes a big issue. I don't want to sound like a squish here, but I sort of see both side. In fact, I think this is one of the healthiest best debates we can have because this gets down to the very elemental questions that we should be asking as a citizenry. Should we be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and what constitutes an unreasonable search? The standard in cases like this is a case from 2018. It's a US Supreme Court case, Carpenter V United States. It was a cell phone location case, so it didn't have anything to do with flock cameras, but it's very, very similar. Law enforcement accessing seven days of historical cell site location information is a search requiring a warrant because, quote, any record

1:43:43that reveals the whole of a person's physical movements is a search that would require a warrant. Is an ALPR? Is that entire network that can see? Okay, now he's on this camera, now he's on this camera and flocks data. The accessing of the system can tell you exactly where your car was is that the whole of your data? Well, flocks location database does something very, very similar. And in fact, sometimes it in many respects, it does more because it's actually offering predictive technology. It's offering the predictive ability to say, oh, hey, he's gone here. Let's say he goes to the gym at 1145 every morning, he's probably going to go, if I'm a betting man based on all of these movements, the database can tell you he is almost certain to go to the gym at 1145.

1:44:44Today, you can actually get via the flock database a 30 day travel history of a given vehicle. That would probably constitute the whole of a person's physical movements. So you're probably looking at if if I were to come down on this, I would come down on the necessity of a warrant that said, when you don't have clearly defined regulations, you get all of these lawsuits. The practical effect is that so many municipalities are going to stop the use of the flock camera system that nobody is going to be like flock itself potentially goes out of business because it simply cannot sustain the massive cost it takes to operate this camera system in this vast database. You're listening to the daddo dot fascinating debate on flock cameras that I am absolutely

1:45:44certain is not over stay tuned much more on it coming in the next days, weeks and months here on the Dan O'Donnell show and I know a lot of people have strong I want to actually take phone calls on that we don't have time today. Obviously, but the next time there is a significant flock debate. I think I would I would love to hear I've been going back and forth to the number of people on our text line carpetland USA flooring center text line. If we don't always take a whole lot of phone calls because we've always got a ton and I mean a ton of stuff to do on each day's program. But we generally don't have time to take a lot of phone calls, but I am always trying to check out what people are saying on the text line. I try to answer some people are making fantastic points on the flock debate. I mean, this is something that's not a very easily defined issue. This is not

1:46:46simple black white right wrong right left that dichotomy sort of goes away. There are very compelling constitutional arguments to be made that this is a dramatic and serious violation of fourth amendment search rights. There is also a very good argument to be made that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy when you get into your car you are going to be on a Department of Transportation camera when I am walking in that I do not have a reach I'm on camera right now for goodness sake. I do not have when I'm at work when you are in public I could make the case there's no reasonable expectation of privacy pretty much anywhere you go that said when there's technology that can basically follow everything that you do well that probably rises to the level of something that over the course of a 30 day mosaic and the data can actually predict where you're going to go next that's probably

1:47:50you need a warrant for. All right big news today for the green bay Packers running back Josh Jacobs moved up his court hearing from November to today so you knew this was likely going to happen. He pleads no contest today to Mr. Meener charges of battery and criminal damage to property stemming from an incident in May at his home. This results his criminal case just days before the start of the NFL's regular season for the Packers NFL kicked off last night Packers open up the season in Minnesota on Sunday afternoon. Jacobs appeared in Brown County Circuit Court this morning he entered the pleas under an agreement with prosecutors convicted on the battery charge. He was ordered to pay a thousand dollar fine plus court costs on the criminal damage to property charge. The court accepted a deferred judgment agreement proceedings are suspended for 12 months and the charges dismissed. If Jacobs meets the conditions of that a review hearing set for a year from today

1:48:53he is not allowed to commit any further crimes that's usually a standard one. He cannot have any contact with the victim. He must be supervised through criminal justice services undergo counseling and pay restitution district attorney David Lassay did not seek jail time citing Jacobs lack of a prior record. Both charges were class a misdemeanors they carried a possible maximum penalty of nine months in jail and a ten thousand dollar fine. Jacobs attorneys in a statement with this agreement. Josh has accepted responsibility for his conduct and resolved this matter. Why did they all want this to be resolved as quickly as possible? Because it's very clear Jacobs is going to be suspended by the NFL. The question is when and for how many games? The standard in domestic violence cases and it is notable that Jacobs was not convicted with a

1:49:55domestic violence enhancer in Wisconsin. We do not have say domestic battery. We would have battery with a modifier which makes it a more severe crime if it is a domestic violence crime. That's how we do domestic violence in Wisconsin criminal law. There was not a no contest by the way does not admit guilt. It's somewhat of a distinction without a difference. A guilty plea means you accept you'd say yes I did all of the things you accuse me of. A no contest plea means you admit nothing but you say I am not going to contest the charges against me. It has the same effect you are convicted. But this allows Jacobs to say no I did not admit any guilt. The NFL though is not bound by the same evidentiary standards or bound by the same rules obviously as the criminal

1:50:57justice system. It can impose any suspension that it sees fit. Jacobs can take the league to arbitration which will invariably happen if he gets what is likely to be a six game suspension. It's usually between four and six games for domestic violence issues but Jacobs I think would be able to successfully appeal and say look there was no domestic violence per se. Yes it arose out of a domestic dispute. Yes I was convicted of battery but there was no domestic violence enhancer. Hey NFL why don't we just settle on a three game suspension. Let's split the difference. I believe was at Elvin Camara the New Orleans Saints running back years ago had a very similar situation. It resulted in a three game suspension. My guess is they are trying Jacobs's team is desperately trying to get that three game suspension for the first three games of the NFL season and then he's allowed to play the rest. You're listening to the Dan O'Donnell

1:52:03show. Okay can we seriously petition the NFL to never ever allow the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks to play a football game again because that was about as boring a game as it can for a game that went right down to the wire and a number of lead changes. It was dull welcome back to the Dan O'Donnell show the rematch of the Super Bowl which was not the best Super Bowl ever played. In fact that game was a dud as well. The Seahawks win the rematch as well the big story out of the NFL season opener last night. Sam Darnold plays just what six snaps throw six passes who is a very very short appearance for him and the Seahawks do believe he suffered a hip injuries originally feared to be what is a torn laborum which would have easily put him out for the season. Seahawks at least initially the latest I have seen is they believe they dodge the ability is going

1:53:03to miss some time but not the entire season as we said we think we have some clarification on the Packers big absence news it's not going to be an injury absence but it is an absence for a likely suspension. Josh Jacobs copying that plea deal today pleads no contest to the misdemeanor charges against when we talked about that a little bit in the previous segment and he is likely going to be if I had to guess between four and six games I think he's going to be hit with a six game suspension immediately appeal and then the NFL will settle at three games whole reason that he that he wanted to move this up was so that he could move it past him and that he could get onto the field as quickly as possible so tonight in game number two of the NFL's two night season opening double header it is going to be the Los Angeles Rams taking on the San Francisco 49ers in Australia this one's

1:54:09going to be played in Melbourne about an hour and a half from right now folks if you are a football no brewers game tonight they open up a three game series against the reds tomorrow night at American family field one of the last home series of the year before the playoffs start so no brewers baseball to interfere you can watch a team that I really do believe is likely going to be the Super Bowl representative for the NFC this is a good good LA Rams team not watch just by virtue of me saying that the Niners are going to beat him like by 21 points or something like that to make it look like I know absolutely nothing about football but I did draft Brock Bowers in the second round of our work league fantasy football draft I can can we the guy has a meniscus surgery brought powers is the stud tight end for Las Vegas okay and I'm thinking all right you know what why not

1:55:12maybe I drafted him in the third round I had like the last pick or something like that so there's you know nobody left I know all right I'm going to take the the tight end he apparently needed a meniscus cleanup surgery last Tuesday and they don't tell anybody until late the afternoon before the start of the NFL season so everybody who has taken him in fantasy football is absolutely shafted by virtue of him likely they're saying one to two weeks and if there's one thing I know about injuries especially anything having to do with the knee I myself had a pretty serious knee surgery a couple of months ago it is nothing is quick all right I'm going to take a while guess Brock Bowers might be a little bit better of an athlete than I am maybe just maybe it's what I'm four months post-op almost four months post-op and I can barely start running in a straight line now and

1:56:14feel comfortable doing that now this apparently was a lot less serious or than a torn ACL that I suffered but still still this is why I hate fantasy football I love it but I hate it as well those injuries all right we are out of time here on the Dan O'Donnell show back tomorrow we are going to have extensive tributes to 9-11 we are going to mark 25 years since the day that in a very real sense changed the world forever much much more to get to as well it all starts tomorrow afternoon here on the Dan O'Donnell show.