
About this episode
Over the last decade, the internet has devolved into a playground for influencers who sell and show off anything and everything you could ever imagine. But my guest today, Helen Lewis, says it isn’t all just superficial TikTok stars telling you how to properly contour your face to look like a Kardashian. Helen argues that the internet has actually become a digital revival tent, and that it’s full of new gurus. In fact, she says, we’re living in a golden age of gurus.
Helen Lewis is a writer for The Atlantic and the host of the new podcast for the BBC, The New Gurus, which explores what it means to be a 21st century guru and how the internet got completely overtaken by them. She profiles productivity hackers, dating coaches, wellness influencers, crypto bros, diversity experts, and heterodox intellectual heroes, all of whom are making a living captivating millions of people with their unconventional ideas (like drinking your own urine to get healthy or paying $5000 to go to a dinner where you’ll be told you’re racist.)
So today, a conversation with Helen about why these figures are so appealing right now, what it is about our current moment that is so ripe for people to believe in the most outlandish ideas, the limits of individual experts, why we still need institutions, and what, if anything, she’s learned about fighting our worst instincts that the internet makes so easy to indulge.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Get every episode summarized
Each time Honestly with Bari Weiss publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Honestly with Bari Weiss

We’re All Living in Casey Neistat’s World
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Apr 17, 20261:21:18failed

A Note from Bari on Honestly
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Jan 22, 20265:29pending

What to Expect in 2026 with Niall Ferguson, John McWhorter, Dr. Mark Hyman, Lean...
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Dec 31, 20252:29:29pending

The Birth of Christianity
Honestly with Bari Weiss
Dec 24, 20251:10:00pending