A Face in the Trees: Prolonged Bigfoot Activity in Southeast Oklahoma

0:00You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Steve Britt today. Steve is an outdoorsman and an adventurous down there in southeast Oklahoma. We'll be talking about that area today. He's also an author of his book. He's called Breakfast with Bigfoot. We'll be talking about that a little bit today as well, but welcome to the show. Steve, how are you? Thank you. I'm doing good. Thank you for having me on the show. And you've got a furry friend there next to you. Watch, I'm sure.

1:05Yeah, I've got Rocco. This is Mike. There he is there. There you go. Hey, there's Rocco the Husky. Very good. So he's got a YouTube channel too. Brilliant. Oh my goodness. Well, we'll have to make sure. Adventure. Steve, how did you get involved with this Bigfoot stuff to begin with? Take us back to when this first started for you that you started having things in the happened in the Bigfoot field. Oh, man. This has got to be way back in the early 70s when I was a kid. You know, when the legends of Boggy Creek and all that stuff came out and I was pretty fascinated with all the cryptid stuff, the Loch Ness monster, you know, all that kind of stuff when I was a kid. National Enquirer was like my favorite little thing to read when I was in line shopping with my mom. I was like anticipated seeing the National Enquirer to see what they saw.

2:09Why are we in line? I'm like reading it. But I grew up in Oklahoma and really, you know, I didn't. The legend of Boggy Creek watched a lot of stuff about Bigfoot and stuff like that. But no real experiences there until we moved to Washington State. And then this is up at the Olympic National Rainforest. And we were right on the outskirts of it and had like 10 acres out there. And we moved from Oklahoma to there. We cleared some land and stuff and put our putter house on it. My mom had the house put on it and stuff and everything. It was pretty neat. And I was like 11, 10 or 11. And I mean, the first thing it was like the first month we were there. Something was outside the squall and like crazy. And I had the bedroom in the back of the house and that night I changed my bedroom to the front of the house. You know, I made the

3:15decision. I'm like, no, next morning I went slept in my mom's room with her and then I removed my I moved my bed. And we had some, my grandparents were park rangers at Horseshoe Lake up in Washington State. And that was pretty awesome. And a lot of good stuff happened up there. But not really any Bigfoot stuff other than her friend, their friends were park rangers as well came and got us one day and said they had something special for us. So we're like, right on so we all loaded in the back of the pickup truck and went over to their park on their on their other side of the lake. And they took us on like maybe a two mile hike down a trail. And there was these trees that were like six foot up and they were just twisted like about so big around. They were just twisted. The tops of them were laid down and they were stripped. And there was like

4:18eight nine foot beds made. It was crazy. And they were just, you know, left there. It was pretty neat looking. And the trees weren't cut or anything. They were twisted off. And you can see that the trees on the ground were the pieces that were twisted off. And that that was pretty amazing. So that kind of spiked it for me right there. Steve, I want to jump in real quick just to clarify something. Is this the same horseshoe lake that's over by Mount Adams? Oh yeah. I believe so. Okay. Very cool. So just just for listeners. So it's totally understandable that you're seeing stuff over there because I mean my goodness, we've talked about Mount Adams on the show. We've talked about O'Lalley Lake Campground on the show. I mean, it's that Gifford Pinchot National Forest just just a wild wild area. So yeah,

5:22but please continue with your account. Yeah. And that was really neat. So that really sparked, you know, my interest was that then. But other than a few creepy feelings, I really didn't have any other experiences up until I started when I retired at like about 45. I started just taking off on my motorcycle and camping remote places and stuff like that. And I lived in Florida at the time. So we went all over the place in Florida. And I was by myself out at a wildlife management area. Yeah. And camping. And I was there for about three weeks. This was right before the like COVID stuff started. And towards towards the end of the three weeks, like two days before I had to leave

6:23because of the COVID stuff. I was sleeping and I got woke up at like 4 a.m. with pebbles, like hitting my tent and rolling down, you know, and you could count the it was like 10 to 12 count before another pebble hit. And it happened for about an hour. I laid there and listened to it for about an hour just to see if it faltered or did anything and never did. And then finally, I'm like, hey, I'm sleeping in here. I'm trying to go back, you know, and it stopped. And I woke up in the morning and when I came out, it didn't rain. It wasn't wet out or anything. There was no reason. There was a huge puddle. I'm talking a puddle by my tent, wet spot. And I'm like, what the heck? Everything was dry. It was just a big wet spot by my tent. And there was a stick going through it. So I picked up a stick just as, you know,

7:27what was it was pee for sure. So something just like left its mark right there because I would actually in the middle of the night, I would pee in a jug and then in the morning, I would like pour it around my camping area. You know, on the outskirts, it's just for coyotes and stuff like that. They're not going to mess with you if they smell, you know, people you're on mostly. But that was pretty weird. And then two days later, they canceled all my reservations and everything for doing anything. And that was like the beginning of my journey when I just started everything. And they're like, no, everything in Florida was canceled. So I ended up going and staying with my aunt because my uncle just passed away. And that started another journey, which had a lot to do with this because

8:28she ended up passing away too. She got a brain tumor. But I, we rented a SUV and I drove her to Arkansas or Kansas to my cousins to her daughters and stayed there for like a week. And she's like, just take the car, do what you want. We got it for another month. And so I took off and I headed to Oklahoma where my brother lived and I got family and stuff like that. And I went there and that's kind of spark that because I enjoyed staying there and going around and doing some things. We visited this place called Coffee Lake outside Oklahoma City. And we were there. It was about this time of year. It was chilly when it was toward the evening. Nobody was out there. And I was walking around it, not a very big lake. And my brother and his wife was still over by the vehicles,

9:33which was on the other side of the lake. And I hear every just it was weird. From all around me, I hear like murmuring, like somebody talking, people talking. But I couldn't tell where exactly where it was coming from. And I'm looking all over the place. And I'm thinking like homeless camps out there. That's the first thing to pop into my head. There's like a homeless camp out here. And I don't want to stumble in on them. They're like, but then I keep looking around and it's just coming from everywhere. I couldn't tell where the murmuring and it was loud. You know, it was loud enough to but I couldn't tell what they were saying or what was going on. And that kind of freaked me out a little bit. So I started walking back and I was like, Hey, is that you guys? And nothing back. And I walked up some more and I realized that they were still up at the car. So they were a quarter mile away from me. So there was no way it was anything like that. So that was,

10:35that was pretty awesome. And then I, you know, when you're doing the research to thinking about that stuff, a lot of people have heard that type of murmuring. You know. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have actually heard that myself. And it's very, very strange. I heard that in Iowa. It's strange because you're constantly trying to listen as hard as you can to try to get words out of it, but there's you can't. There's, you're not getting any English words. It messes with your head. At least that's what I experienced. Yeah. Exactly. My first thought was, you know, where's it coming from? Where's this coming from? And I could not. It was just like every time I turned my head, you know, to see if it was coming from that way, it was just like, it was like in my head more than it was out, you know, in the air and my ears picking it up, I think that's what it felt like to me.

11:37But that, that was pretty neat. And I ended up going back to Florida and getting my motorcycle. And a month later, I had, I headed back to Oklahoma because it's just like, it was calling me. You know, I just like had to do it. And I didn't have nothing else to do. So I just jumped on my bike and headed to my brother's house, stayed there and up selling my motorcycle and buying a little four-wheel drive. And I found the Oklahoma adventure trail, 1600 miles of dirt roads, that circumnavigates Oklahoma. And part of this trail goes through the mountains of southeast Oklahoma. And that's where everything happened was right there. It was pretty awesome. And, and is that referring specifically to like the Kaya Mechis down there?

12:38Exactly. The Kaya Mechie Mountains. Yeah. And this was like privately owned land that nobody has permission to go out onto. You know, I had to do a lot of research in Flanagolin. Kind of sort of to get out there on it. But I ended up making friends with the owners and and the one guy that's out there that, you know, kind of maintains everything in keeps order. The sheriff of the the mountains up there. And that's in the book. It was pretty cool. That guy was pretty cool. But there was, well, they owned so many mountains it was ridiculous out there. It was great. But I found the area that I wanted to go through and it was all privately owned. So I found like 40 acres that was per cell out there.

13:40I got a hold of the realtor company to get permission to go out there. And then I had to call a couple other companies to get permission to go out there. And I tracked down the logging company that was out there and then talked to them. And they were like, oh yeah, not a problem. You know, you can come out there. And then I talked, I tracked down the owners of all the property. And they were like, absolutely. If you're not, you know, hurting anything, you're not hunting. Don't worry about it. And so I went out there, started exploring and everything and got in, you know, kind of good with the family and with the guy that was out there really good. Not very many people out there. I traveled out there for seven days. I took dirt roads and everything before. I even saw my first person. It was so remote. And I finally, I talked to this guy finally. And that's what I asked him. I'm like, that's the first thing I'm going to ask, you know, have you seen any big foot, any weird stuff? And he's like,

14:44he's like, yeah, I have. He said, one night, I heard a bunch of ruckus at the feeder beside the barn. And I came out there with a flashlight and there was three, three of them. He said, one of them was his tall. If not taller than the barn, which would have been like eight to nine foot tall. And the second one was a little shorter than the barn. He said, which would have been about seven, seven and a half. And then the third one was about his size. And this guy was maybe six, two, six, three. And he said, I shouldn't light right in the faces. And he said, they weren't no bears. And he said, no, what a bear looks like. And that was a that was a person's face. He said, that was not a monkey, weren't a bear. He said, the biggest one snorted at him while the other two backed up across the clearing and then went and she's a tree line. And then the biggest one did

15:45the same thing. And they just, you know, looked at each other. He signed the flashlight right on it. And it looked at him until it got to the tree line snorted at him. And then they disappeared. And he's like, that is like the main experience I had. He's like, I've had a few more experiences where something snorted in my face, you know, in the pitch black at night when I'm out there. He's like, but other than that, you know, he's seen. He did see saw an orb, which has family and everybody's like, if you see an orb, you just go the other way. You don't even mess with it. They were like, but go ahead. That's that's really interesting. That's something I've actually never heard before. Did you ask him why they learn to just go the other way? No big old people like that a lot of times tell

16:47you to do something and don't give you an explanation. And that's kind of how he had it. You know, he's like, I never asked. And you know, it's like, don't go in the tree line at night. I never asked. And I don't want to know type thing. And yes, on the other side of the mountain is like a little community. And I'm probably totally given away almost that. But if anybody goes up there, they're going to get in trouble anyway, so they can't. But I would drove around there too to talk to some people on the other side of that area. So right on the other side of that mountain where he had his experience, there's there's a little community. So I went driving around in there to get to the downside of that. And I found a guy that was he had a fire going. And it was this time of year right here. He had a fire going and he was sitting out there and I come driving up the little dirt road and my little Chevy tracker. And he waves and I wave and he's like, Hey, what's going on?

17:51He's like, he's like, nobody ever comes up this road. He's like, he said, he said, you want to sit, you know, and sit a while. And I'm like, yeah, so I got out and we started talking. And and that's one of the first things I asked to ask about Bigfoot, you know, and if you had any experiences over here because on the other side of the mountain, there's there was a guy that saw three of them. And he's like, absolutely, he's like, something comes through here like three or four o'clock in the morning and slaps our rain barrel a couple times. And we just we just say, hey, good morning and go back to sleep because it's just such a normal thing now. And he also said that twice an orb came up as road. And first he thought he thought I was too at first because nothing ever comes up as road, you know, and it wasn't a road to take a normal car up either. You had to have a four wheel drive. And he said that he thought it was like somebody on a motorcycle

18:57but it was so quiet not making any noise and wouldn't bounce it around. It was just coming up his road. And the first one freaked him out. He went in the house and he didn't want to deal with it. And then he was out there again. And this was like another year because they had like the spot for a while. He said this orb come up the road. So he was going to go out there and see what it is. You know, and he walked out to the end of his little driveway and started walking towards it and it literally stopped and went back the opposite way away from him until it disappeared. So it yeah, he got in its way and it stopped. This is what he's saying. My goodness. And all this is on that adventure trail that you're referring to. Yeah, this is all on that same along the Oklahoma adventure trail right on this mountain, the same exact mountain. And when you're on top of this mountain, you're like a compass,

20:04anything like that just goes wacky. It's just you can't get it north south, east or west, west, reading it all on it. Unless you can walk around and you got certain spots that it'll be okay. But most spots on that mountain, it just goes wacky. It's pretty cool. Now, I wonder why that is. It's got to be some kind of special metal or something. Yeah, magnetic thing. Yeah. And that I camped around there. I got permission to camp around different spots to see if I could experience anything and I did a lot of hiking and I went back over a period of two years back and forth to Oklahoma City where I was staying. And then I'd go out there for a few months. And every time I went out there, I had some kind of experience. Like the first one, I was hiking.

21:06And I see I'm hiking a few miles from the cabin in the middle of nowhere that nobody goes to, you know, for years, 20 years or more, nobody's been up in those areas and stuff. And I'm hiking this cattle trail and I get up and there's a whole bunch of pigs. So I freeze right there and I'm looking around to see if there's any big ones that is going to be an issue if I've got a jump of climate tree or something and be stuck up a tree for the next hour. And there wasn't any big ones. So I just kind of stopped my foot and they all disappeared. Am I okay? No problem. So I go on another maybe 20, 30 yards and off to my right about 20, 30 yards into the woods, probably not even. I'd say 20, 30 feet because it was right there. A big old branch just snapped, crack. And I took that as a warning, hey, I'd probably just

22:12scared off its food or something. And I'm like, hey, okay, no problem. I said, sorry, I turned around, went back the other way. And as I'm going back the other way, I just turned around and followed the trail back. And about halfway back as I'm walking, there's a big old turkey feather in the right in the middle of the trail. And I'm like, pick it up. I'm like, hey, thank you. You know, and I stick it in my hat and I kept walking. And that was pretty neat. And then another time, I was down by the creek, camping. And I was exploring around there and across the creek. I went a little further than I normally go because I left out earlier that morning and I took a lunch with me and stuff. And this is climbing rocks and it took a minute to get back in there and a lot of energy. And I had another one crack, a big old crack coming from just inside the tree line

23:18at me. And I'm like, okay, no, I'm good with that. And finally, after doing this for like two years, we get up to the top of this mountain. And there's a cabin up there that he used to live in, like 20, 30 years ago. And this is where the experience was at, where he said the three were at. And the tree line they backed into, you know, and I said, I want to camp there right there. And they trusted me now. They're like, you're not going to tear stuff up. And I helped put new screen around the cabin and made it look like people lived there and stuff. You know, so I did some work while I was there, mode, mode lawn, mode the area, the grass area and stuff. And I'm like, I want right there. And I want nothing but that tree line that they backed into in front of me. That's that's all I want. I want right there. And that's where I want to camp. And he's like, yeah, it's not a problem. You know, he's like, you can go up there and camp. And I was literally up

24:22there for three months from, let's see. Yeah, May, June, July. I was up there from April to July. And it was like July 6th today. I left because it was like 116 degrees. It was so hot. But I finally got up there. My first experience with them was I woke up in the middle of the night to go pee like, you know, and I turned, I had lights on my Jeep that I just flick a couple switches and it lit up the whole area. And then I had a nice bright, halogen flashlight today. So like three o'clock in the morning, it was a bright full moon. And I flicked all my lights on and I go out and I'm shining my light around just to see if I can see any eye shines other than deer. And all of a sudden, on the top of the feeder that wasn't that the feeder that they were

25:24eaten out of, on the top of that feeder, something slapped the top of it four times. This is out in the middle of nowhere that they know nobody's up there. There's no way anybody's up there. And private land. And I was just like, I wasn't scared. I was just like, I just got a birthday cake. And there was a file in it and I got out of jail. That's how I felt. I was like, this is so awesome. You know, and then I sat there for about, I got my lawn chair out and I put my back to my Jeep. And I sat there and I talked to them for about 30, 40 minutes. And then I went back to bed. You know, and that was pretty neat. That was a pretty neat experience. So whatever it was, you know, it's for perfect slaps on top of something. Nothing else is going

26:25to do anything like that. Nothing has rhythm like that. A deer's just going to rut something. And and same with the same with the pig. It's just going to, you know, randomly do something. So after that, I knew they were up there. So I found an old pickup truck that was in the tree line. And I know you're not supposed to do this, but I left crackers. And I left the crackers in their next day. They're gone. Mike awesome. So I left some more crackers and I put a bunch of dirt around the crackers on the hood. So if anything walked up there, jumped up there, walked across it, landed on it. You know, there was just a little spot where the crackers were. I would see footprints or something of a bird or a, you know, raccoon something getting it. And the next day, I was eager to check. I went to go check the next morning and crackers were gone

27:31and the dirt wasn't disturbed at all. There was no footprints, nothing on the dirt on the hood of this old truck. So I'm like, okay, this is awesome. So this is good. So something's coming in here. And so at the same time, I was going to slowly explore and a little bit further out and a little bit further out towards the tree line and stuff, but I haven't yet gone in that tree line because I was waiting for an ATV. I didn't want to walk back in that, back in that area. You know, I wanted to take an ATV back there. So after about being there for, after this experience and being there for about a week and a half, two weeks, I finally got the ATV that I got it running and everything got it going. And I took that ATV and lunch with me back into that area. And as I'm coming back into that area, there's like this big briar patch, it was like a dome. And I couldn't

28:33see what was behind it or anything. So I'm like slowly putting around it so I can just like peak and all of a sudden all this debris and everything just comes out at me in my face. And I mean, I'm like wiping it off of me. It just like stunned me. I'm just like, ah, what the heck? And whatever it was, that fast, you know, diversion. Boom, watch this. They're in your face. I'm out of here. So that's basically what it felt like, you know, it was just a diversion and it was gone. And I, but I didn't feel threatened. No time did I feel like threatened. I've been in the woods where you get chills up and down your spine and the back of your neck where it's like, uh, I'm getting, I'm getting in the car. I'm out of here, which actually happened to me just last night. Yeah. At the cabin here in Georgia, because I'm in Georgia right now in the foothills. A friend of mine's got a cabin up there and we were up there, go up there once in a while, you know. And just last night I had something like that. But when

29:38I was there at no time did I feel that I never felt threatened. I never felt scared. I never got the willies. It was like a happy feeling, I think, because I, maybe I gave them a happy feeling from the beginning or something. So they gave it back to me. I don't know, but I never once felt threatened or scared or anything like that. I just, I felt at home and safe. It was, it was weird. And, but I went back up in there and that happened and I still, because it didn't really feel threatened or anything or it feels scared. I just kept, you know, exploring the area. I just went around and it was about 20 acres back in there that was fenced in and I went around the fence and then I kind of zigzagged through it just to see if I could see what I could see, you know. That's pretty neat, but really nothing. And that was about three quarters of the day,

30:43just to cover all that. So I went back and I did my thing like I normally do. I had astronaut paste. I basically lived off a smoothie astronaut paste. And I went back and I made me one of those and I went to start to drink it and right from that spot where that briar patch is right where they backed in that he saw him back in. It was a massive crack. I mean, it was like a baseball bat breaking over a baseball in a stadium. It was just so loud, but you can, you can basically clap your hand really loud and it sounded like gunshot out there too, but I'm not underplaying it. It was a massive crack. And I know from being out in the wilderness and knowing how to survive and stuff, if you make noise and you're a predator, you don't eat and if you make noise and you're prey, you get eaten. So usually they don't make noises like that. So that was

31:48just a warning saying, hey, you're in my area, you know. Never once did I hear any vocalizations. Maybe I did towards the very, very like last day, but I didn't hear any vocalizations. No howls, no noises. They didn't bother me at night. Nothing bothered, but I had my Jeep set up out of Jeep Cherokee. Had it set up where I could just climb in the back and go to sleep, you know. And because I did not, I to this day, if you catch me out somewhere like that, I'm not going to be sleeping in a tent. There's you're not going to get me in a tent. No. Is there a reason for that? Yeah, because there's not there's bad ones out there. There's ones that do give you the willies. And I don't want to be a come across one of those and not have access to my keys and my ignition

32:48and get that out of there, you know, I don't want to be in a little tent. Basically last night, I come out of the cabin and my dog normally gives me trouble. He wants to run around and frolic and be like, nah, I'm not leaving the cabin. This is only 11 o'clock at night. He gets right in the car. No problem, you know. And Rocco and I thought that was kind of weird and I was going to go pee and then all of a sudden, just that up my spine and the back of my neck, just like, whoa, you know, I had chills all over and something just told me to get in the car. So I got in the car and I started driving off and I still had that feeling driving up. And this is like how long the dirt road like two miles, miles dirt road. And it's not an easy dirt road. And I'm driving down that and my back hatches like wiggling, make it a noise. And I'm like,

33:52poop, it's not shut all the way. So I get out. And as soon as I get out, I got that same feeling again. And I'm like, right up the dirt road a little bit, not very far. And I slam my hatch down harder, you know, and jump back into the car real fast and got out of there. And then I called out and I was like, Hey, some gave me the ebgb's out there. You better lock the doors. Don't let, don't let Bubba out. But yeah, but there I never really felt at any time I never felt unsafe. Or and yeah, and I'm not a crazy bold person. This is going to look at the face of death and fear and just ha ha ha. No. So it was neat. It's my goodness. There's a lot to take away from the Oklahoma thing. One is sometimes you have to do a lot of work just to get into a certain area.

34:54And the amount of work that you did, just talking to bland owners and things of that nature, I mean, hats off to you. That's probably the most working for heard anyone do to get to an area. That's pretty cool. So that area that you were staying for a while and you left the crackers out, was there ever anything that showed up that you weren't expecting to see any objects or anything after you left those crackers out? No. Okay. That's the only thing not that while I was hiking. Of course, the turkey feather and then I left an apple half of an apple in a tree while I was hiking a trail. And then when I was walking back through the apple was gone and there was deer antlers sitting in the trail with a triangle rock that was pointing up another trail that went into these

35:55briar bushes that there's no way I could have walked through. You know. And I kind of tried to, I'm like, okay, you want me to go that way? I'm going that way. It's like, no, as they have it in and I'm in my shorts and a t-shirt, I'm not going through nothing. No briars. That's for sure. But you're the only one out there for a, you said a few months? Oh, yeah. Longer than that. Way longer than that. I mean, I'm talking 20 years going up there other than somebody passing through which is like the main guy that checks everything out. He might go up there once in a while to get because the main well, there's a nice well up there that pumps out some good water. Man, that water was so good and cold. I wouldn't have survived without that water. That was awesome. But sometimes he goes up there to get, fill his barrel up. If it had something's up with his pump down there or the water or something. But other than that,

36:57no, nobody's even authorized to go up there. And it's leased out to this one guy that for, that doesn't deer hunt or anything. So they leased it out to keep people off of it, stuff like that. They had to figure out ways to keep people off their properties. And those properties were closest to people that like to ride their side by sides through. So they had to take measures. And that's why they like me being up there too. Because I never, nobody ever came up there while I was up there. But I was more than ready to run anybody off until I did find a deer blind that wasn't supposed to be up there with a camera. And we got the camera and checked out the SD card and got the, got what the guy looked like and stuff like that. And then put his camera back after we took a couple pictures of us going, hey, right? Exactly. Yeah, that's always fun to do. What kind of animals were, were you seeing in

38:03that same area? I've seen, nope, they put the back in there. I've seen right off. I saw a nice bobcat, nice little bobcat. That was pretty cool. And not a whole lot of stuff, you know, mostly birds. In the evening, as the sun was going down, you could howl and all around you. I mean, all the coyotes would sound off. And pigs one night, let's see, I was there for a few, this was in June and the wind actually changed directions that night. For the first time since I've been there, the wind changed directions. And I guess everything in that area that was smelling me couldn't smell me no more. So these big old hogs came through that were the size of half the size of my Jeep. They were big. I mean, the grass was up to my waist and these hogs, I could see their

39:08back over the top of the, and they're squirt, there's boba. And that looks like a different dog. Yeah, he just jumped in. Yeah, where it came from. And where was I? You're talking about really big hogs. Yeah, the big hogs came walking through and that same evening, it was crazy. That same evening, my saw coyote as well in the tree line. And the next thing you know, the pack of coyotes was trying to take down a little hog. And for about 45 minutes, it was the worst noises you could. I mean, the coyote is going after the pig squeal and the bigger pigs, you know, trying to break it up. And, you know, and it started over here. And it ended up, you know,

40:09back over this way. And then it was quiet. Crazy. I sat out there and listened to it. That's take a, I had a lawn chair with like a mosquito net that I'd put over me and I could sit out there. And but every night at dusk, I mean, when you wanted to be inside because of the mosquitoes anyway, but I went in as soon as the sun went down. And as soon as the sun came up, I came out of my Jeep. But otherwise, I didn't explore it night. I did not go out at night. That's, that's not something that you do. We did it once at midnight. And I had this guy. He's like, he's like, what do you want to do? You know, where do you want to go? And I'm like, dude, I said, I want to go to somewhere, somewhere at midnight where somebody's been for a long time. I said, 20 plus years. He's

41:14like, well, that'd be where I grew up. He's like, that'd be ghost taller. And I said, okay, that's, that's where, you know, let's go there. He's like, oh, yeah, we had some weird stuff happen there. He's like, some lady is some guy. No, some guy was riding his horse through there one night. And a naked ghost lady jumped on the back of his horse, scared him so bad that he ran his horse till it dropped. And, and yeah, made it the rest of the way home on foot or something like that. And crazy story. But I'm like, yeah, that sounds like a good spot to go for me, you know. So, but nothing really happened. We sat out there and just listened and listened and it was pitch black. He couldn't see nothing. And we just sat there for about an hour, maybe an hour and a half and nothing. No noises, no anything like that. I tried to do a couple tree knocks, but that

42:20wasn't their thing, you know, I think they're all kind of different. But then there's that day, we're getting to it now. We're getting to the juicy part. So that day, it rained. And this is probably, this is in June. I'm doing something. This is this is probably in June. And late June, this was three weeks before I left. And all this time, oh, oh, oh, wait. Well, let's not talk to about that yet. We're going to get to the part where I didn't leave food out one day. So I left food out for like a week straight or so. And it was all gone. And then one day, I ran out of crackers. I had to go back into town and get crackers. And I'd leave bananas too.

43:22I left bananas and bananas were gone. So that's how I knew that it wasn't a raccoon or a bird or something for sure because the bananas were gone. But I didn't leave anything. And I did my hiking for the day. And I get back to my camp and I made my astronaut pace. And I go to drink it. And there were two slaps on top of the old pickup truck that I would leave the food on. And I'm like, that I'm just excited, even more excited than the four slaps. That was just awesome. Because I know nobody's up there. And that's communication. Whether it's like, give me some more food or I'm going to come over there and get it or whatever. But it was slapping the tables. They and, hey, where's my crackers? And I thought that was pretty awesome. So I'm like, okay, okay. You know, so I went over there and I get in and I left that's when I left the banana. That's

44:25right. And because I didn't have any crackers. And the next day it took to the banana was gone. And I went into town and got more crackers. And I left crackers two more nights. And then I was like, I'm not going to leave him this night. I'm going to see if it happens again. I didn't leave him the next afternoon when I'm about to drink my smoothie. It's two slaps on top of that sucker. It did it four times to me that I did not leave anything out there. And that was so awesome. Just to be communicated communication with one. Any questions about that? It's funny. I was actually just going to ask you if you felt there had been any communication between you and the big foot that are living out there and you pretty much just answered it. What do you think that would be the main communication that you experienced would be the slaps

45:27when you didn't feed them that time? Yes. The first night that they slapped four times on the feeder, I don't know why. I don't know what was going on. But when I walked around there the next day to that feeder where it happened, all the grass was padded down everywhere around that feeder. So something was going on around that feeder. That's all I can figure. And when I shine the flashlight over that way, it slapped it four times saying, hey, you know, and but that other than the trees breaking, the branches breaking towards me. That's the only communication till towards the end. I think it mimicked because I, day before I left, I said, hey, you haven't talked to me. I'm out there. I talk to it every day. I stood at the tree line. I walked around that area and I talked to the tree line every day like it was a person.

46:30And on the last day that I was there, second to last day, I was like, hey, you know, I haven't heard you talk to me. I'd like to hear your voice. You know, can you say something to me? And about five minutes later, and this wasn't a dust. It's like two o'clock in the afternoon. I heard a coyote kind of call a pup whimper and a piggy snort from over in that area. Okay. And that kind of freaked me out. I'm like, that's awesome. So it knows what I'm saying, kind of sort of, but it can't say it back. It just needs more. I can't wait to go back up there. Honest to goodness. I plan on going back up there here pretty soon. Was that the only, sorry, was that the only time that you had requested them to do something like that? Yes. I would, I would, I would be curious to see what would happen if you did that again.

47:40Absolutely. Ask it for something. Yeah, like, you know, I didn't even, you know, I would tell it when I would eat and it slapped the top of the food. I was picking berries one night and it slapped the top of the thing, the truck. And I put berries in a cup. I held it up and I said, come on over here. You know, share some berries with me, share some dinner with me. And that I requested that, but that didn't happen, which would have been pretty awesome. But you can, I guess, understandably. But yeah, I know after that, I kind of kicked myself in the butt going, man, I should have been asking it to do stuff all this time, you know, bring me something, something, you know, something. But yeah, that was the only time I really asked it to talk to me. So let me hear your voice and whatnot. But

48:43after the slaps and stuff, this was, this was about two weeks before I left right here. I'm sitting in my Jeep. It's raining like crazy. And it's just a big rainstorm passing by and about four o'clock, five o'clock in the evening. The sun was hitting the tree line. That tree line, just perfect to her. The rain was gone and it was brought out. So I just still sitting in my Jeep, just watching the tree line like I pretty much did every day. And I see all the trees are green leaves are all moving independently. I see something too big green things that are glowing that would move real slow. And they didn't move this way or this way. They just kept. Steve you there. Uh oh. I think we lost them.

49:51Hello, Steve. Oh, man. Hey, Steve. That was messed up. That was weird. No, my phone overheated. Oh, no. I had to go throw it. It's no. It's a middle of winter here in my phone overheats. Wow. Figure. Yeah. Okay. Where was I at the green now? So we were, we were at you had just put your hands up because you were talking about like the green something and then it froze. Yeah. So, so I see these green things that don't waver. Don't move with the leaves or anything. And it keeps. I see one. And then I see two. And then it slowly go. I mean, so slow goes back and I only see one. I mean, it's moving that slow back and forth. So slow. And I'm thinking,

50:57oh, somebody's up in a tree stand over there watching me. This is crazy because it looked like the reflection of here. Let's see. Like these glasses. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. Um, green is your orange. And I'm like, no way. Somebody's up there like watching or something. And, so in the house, he's got some rifles, old rifles with rifle scopes and stuff like that just sitting in there hanging up all the stuff. Been in there for 20 years undisturbed. He just moved to his brother's house after his brother passed away. But anyways, I go get a scope. I pull a scope off of one of the rifles because I want to put on a, you know, a rifle or anything or take move one of his rifles. So I popped a scope off the rifle. And I went back out there and I zeroed in on

52:01that. And I could see it playing as as a day, what it was. And I'm like, that's what the heck that that started. It's a person face. Do you know who John Amos is? Like good times. He's a football player. Um, you could, you could Google it and look him up. Oh, yeah. He's, uh, what else he's on coming to America too. That old movie. Yes. Yes. That's the face. I saw that face right there except black. Black, black, black. So black is just shiny black. Beautiful shiny. It couldn't really see pores, not really a porous. But I was close enough to see the pores if it had pores. Um, eyeballs were big and greenish orange. And it had a big brow.

53:06And then of course it had hair and, and it had hair like my dog. I mean, just like that, nice, beautiful, nice hair. And I'm just looking at it. And I'm like, you are the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in my life. This, this is so awesome. It had the cheekbones perfect with John Amos. Same nose, a little bit wider. The mouse was picture of mouse like the thing or the Hulk, you know, kind of sick lips and wide. It had that. Um, it was just watching me. We were just looking at each other and it was just as interested in me as I wasn't it. I ended up naming it past. I followed its whole face. I can see its whole face. And, uh, I mean, all of those rose feet on the eyes right there. I followed its arm. It was like in one of those trees. So I followed its arm and it had beautiful fur. Black, black is could be black fur. And it wasn't

54:11matted. It was nice like my dogs fur basically. And I followed its arm all the way down and it was hanging on to the tree with like three fingers. And I couldn't see its thumb just hanging on with three fingers. And I could see the wrinkles in the knuckles. I could see the fingernails as black under the fingernails. And it didn't have long, pointy, gnarly fingernails had perfect fingernails. And nice hands actually it had nice big black hands who was black. And the first stopped at the wrist, which was weird. But it kind of stopped at the wrist and there was I couldn't there was no fur on the back of the hand. And, uh, I was there for like 20 minutes and squinting through this thing and I had the I had to readjust. And I readjusted and I came back and I could actually see it down with my eyes because I was

55:12talking to it. And it actually it came out a little further to where I could see it with my eyeballs now. But I like like to broke the scope out anyway just to see everything was better. And something was across the chest. Uh, something brownish was across the chest that I couldn't really tell what it was or if it was foliage or if it was what it was across the chest. And when I went back it changed position and I could see the full hand in the thumb five fingers in the thumb. And I'm like, that is so awesome. This is a big old perfect human hand. And this thing has a human face. It does not not even close to a gorilla. It's us. It's got a human face. And it was big. It was pretty big. We watched each other until the sun went down that day.

56:14And every single evening until I left except one because it was over here to my left. Um, watching me maybe wondering if it should approach me or something like that. I feel if I would have stayed another month, it probably would have approached me. It'd been comfortable enough or something. Um, but every evening it was up there watching me and we watched each other every evening. And yes, I had a 600 time zoom digital camera. And guess what? It wouldn't focus on it no matter what I tried. I got video of it. It's on my YouTube channel. And you can watch if honestly you can enhance it and stuff like that. You can see the eyeballs. And you can see it. But you got to have some good equipment to, to, I mean, I've had a couple people going, I see it. That is awesome. And then like my brother going, you know, you didn't get

57:21real footage. Yeah. But yeah, that, that was so awesome. But I was up there for three weeks like that. Um, and we watched each other every day. It ate crackers of bananas. And, um, about, it was really hot. And I was pretty much filling up a horse trough full of 72 degree well water and soaking in it just to bring my temperature down and taking showers, you know, at the, in the evening. And, um, it was July 6 was the day I left. And probably July 4 was the day it made those noises to me and stuff. And then, um, July 5th, it was up there in the tree again. Same spot. And we sit there. I talked to it. I said, I stood at the tree at the fence line. And he couldn't walk across the field because there's a grass and the chiggers. If you don't know what chiggers are.

58:26Oh, I know. Don't go to Oklahoma and walks his grass in the summertime. Right. Because you're, you're going to have big old welps on you. So you stay out of the grass. So the only way to get to it was going through that tall grass. And it's just like, I didn't want to ride the ATV through it because they're going to get on me. And so I just stood at the fence, which was about 40 yards, you know, from it. Pretty close. I could see it fully every single day. But the camera would not focus on it. It would focus on trees leaves everything else around it. But apparently the camera didn't know what it was. I don't know. But no matter how many times I've posted the best footage I had on on my YouTube channel. But I tried every single day to focus on that thing. And the camera wouldn't focus on it. It would get around it. It would see its eyes. And that type of thing.

59:31But I could see it playing his day. I mean, it allowed me to actually see it in the tree after that because I would just stand there and talk to it and tell it to come over basically. And yeah, I just talked to it. But I never asked it other than to come over and have lunch with me. Or eat with me. Share some berries with me. Other than that. So apparently they're very, they keep to themselves and they're territorial. But yeah, that's, I mean, that was it. And the only thing I could figure with the brown thing going across, it looked furry. And I was thinking that it was maybe an infant clinging on to her. And maybe that was a female. Because every day that thing was on its chest in the same spot. And I couldn't make it out. I

1:00:38didn't see a face. Well, I may have seen a face, but I can't say I did. It didn't move. It just was there across the chest every day. So I can't say what it was for sure. But it for bigfoot or, you know, Pat, it was definitely, most definitely prominent face, everything, every single day, intent on looking at me, watching everything I did. And that type of stuff. And never once that I feel threatened at all. And it did have greenish orange eyes. It did not have red eyes. Okay. It's absolutely incredible, Steve. So you mentioned you're going back. Do you have

1:01:39any plans of things you want to do differently for when you go back next time? Not really. Yeah. I mean, I think I pretty much, yeah, I just want to get back up there and do exactly what I did, hike and let them know that, you know, I'm not a threat. And every time I come pulling up there, I'm going down the dirt road because it was at least 15 miles from the closest little town. So you drive a highway, and then you take a dirt road, and then you hit another dirt road that was like about 15 miles or so. And every time I get close to the mountain, I would honk my horn, the dant, dant, dant, dant. No, I would do that. Saving a haircut thing. And every time I pull up there, I do that right when I get to the gate. And then if I would just be driving by that mountain, I would do the same thing, the same honk. But yeah, it was just the most

1:02:40incredible experience. And I think just having that experience unlocks so much different things for me. It's just incredible. Because once you see something like that, you, I don't know, I can't say, be bold enough to say, I know the secrets of the universe. But man, I feel I know the secrets of the universe. Honestly, it opened my mind to just what we are, why we're here, or what's going on. That's a whole different story. It's just, it's just crazy. How awesome. I've, I've felt ever since then. It's a fascinating account. And the coolest thing, a lot of times you hear these accounts and it's like, I can't go back or I won't go back. But the cool thing about it is that you are going back. That's really cool. And I've got to, yeah, I say it'll be interesting to see

1:03:47what happens after you do go back. Absolutely. If, if it kind of like going after seeing it, if they recognize me and, and that type of thing or anticipate me coming back or, or whatnot, you know, that would be pretty awesome to see, to know. And absolutely, I can get back out there. There's not a problem with that. And I plan on getting back out there. And I wrote a short little introduction book to everything that's probably like 80, 90 pages. And it explains from my childhood up into this point, what led me to that point right there. To see them to be up there. All the events in my life kind of chain of events that led me to that. And yeah, it's basically what the little introduction book is. And when I go back up there,

1:04:51it's going to be all about them. For sure. Absolutely. So I'm going to have the link to that definitely in the show notes or description of wherever people are watching or listening to this. But one last question I wanted to ask you, Steve, is how do electronic devices work up there? Do they ever have anything weird happen to them or pretty much as business as usual? No. I had actual one little spot that I could get a cell phone. I could actually get a signal. But other than that, no, nothing really weird happens to my phone's or cameras or electronic. I mean, the compass would go wacky up there. But my phone's never like, I mean, I've been in this bot. Yeah. Okay. Up on top of this one mountain, this is in my videos on YouTube.

1:06:00I got the video camera and I'm going back to this old cabin that's on top of this mountain that's on a really old trail by three sticks monument in down in that area in the kind of right. And you can drive to it, three sticks monument, but you can't drive backwards out of four wheel drive. Preachers three sticks monument. It's got to be three sticks monument. Yes. And I went up there on my four wheel drive. I got some pictures and stuff up moving up there too. But I went back into this cabin and I'm like, getting to the cabin. And I'm like, hello, anybody, you know, around here and I hear like fingernails on a metal, you know, that kind of like gave me the wheelies a little bit. And I'm like, hey, anybody in all of a sudden boom of a camera goes dead. Yeah, my car shut off. I'm like, what the heck? And I'm like,

1:07:08what's going on? I try to turn it back on. You know, it won't turn back on. And then I walk back up a little ways, try to turn it back on because I didn't want my focus on the camera while I'm standing by a cabin. I don't know what's there. You know, and it came back on and I had like red in the battery. So whatever something drained my battery my camera. So I'm just like, okay, and I actually walked up the road to this place. And I kind of had the EVGs at that time. Like there's something here that doesn't want me here for sure. And it's going to do something to me. So I walked back and I had the camera pointing. I turned it on. I had my phone or the camera pointing behind me as I was walking to see if I could anything like, you know, popped out while I was walking back to my car. But that was kind of a creepy moment. But in those areas,

1:08:09now I never really had anything bad, creepy, weird, other than, you know, the experiences I talked about. Okay. Very interesting. I mean, Southeast Oklahoma is full of so much weirdness. It is. It absolutely is. I mean, there's a few other channels like you that are in Oklahoma, just out of Oklahoma. And there's some weird stuff that happens in Oklahoma. And people wouldn't think so. I've talked to a few game wardens. I know one personally up here. And he's a younger guy. And he's like, no, he's like, no, there ain't nothing like that. And I'm like, oh, you just wait. Just like there. There he is. You just wait. Because that's the first thing I ask him. I'm like, yeah, any experiences with Bigfoot. He's like, no, he's like, I can't believe you asked me that. And I'm like, oh, yeah, here's my book. Right. Exactly. There you go. Oh, my goodness, Steve. Thank you so much for sharing what you've experienced so far. And, you know, I just want to say,

1:09:13again, listeners, you can check out. You can get Steve's book on Amazon. And the link to that is going to be in the description or the show notes for the episode. But definitely keep in keep in touch, Steve. I would love to hear, you know, things continue to happen when you go back to that property in the future. Would love to hear from you. I can't, you know, honestly, I can't wait. And I would figure by maybe not next spring, but next fall, I'll be out there. Or actually, yeah, next spring, I'll be out there for sure. I'll be going back. I'll be done what I'm doing around here because I'm kind of investigating around here a little bit and going and seeing stuff next weekend. We're supposed to go out to the Nantasia National Forest, which is an old grain forest. It has been messed with for hundreds of years or something in North Carolina. So that's going to be exciting.

1:10:14Awesome. Good stuff. Well, you might have to write a second book who knows. But, you know, thank you so much for hanging out, Steve. And we'll be keeping in touch with you. Oh, yeah. Thank you for the interview and everything else. Thanks a lot. This is awesome. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous years. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave with that.

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1:12:20pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can get a little, a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before it is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it. And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or four-street worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search-and-rescue

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