#92Noon! 9a Hour 3/6 - Peter King

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4:11All righty, here comes a full-strength feast, 9 to noon style, FM 100.3 K up a in. This is my first feast since January 23rd. Been a cool morning for me and mad producer. Charge scratched because it's not feeling well. Greenway impacted Nortos Thursday night by entering panic mode so he'll join around 10 o'clock and a 7 a.m. called the Great Peter King. The Great Peter King to chat about his book the game stories from 40 years of NFL coverage for sports illustrated and NBC the game PK had some 9 to noon immortality to it with the stories the great PK shared. So with Peter King around the corner segment to come for the Sid Harman references and

5:12stay for Peter King traveling with Reggie Whiteness family during the NFL's first free agency year of 1993 and about this Andy Reed almost becoming a football writer instead of a Hall of Fame head coach. That starts next segment with PK emphasis on the word that starts and we believe you'll like it. Then she got the money last night, Finchy Finchy, Randall off the go bear screen and the lob derudy comes down with it with one hand and touches it to Edwards 3.3 of the night for Edwards. He's gotten 12 in his last two games. 22 for Anthony Edwards. Did you see the poster last night PA? Yeah, it was it was a two handed masterpiece RJ Barrett and then just the screaming in

6:22his face as Barrett's trying to imbound the ball and move on with his life just trying to reevaluate things RJ Barrett was and it just crushed him it was awesome. The scream was of the guttural ilk and the T-Wolves beat the Raptors last evening after beating Memphis and after going to Denver and handling the nugs, Finchy Finchy got the money last night well done. A Heinzi is at Vegas tonight and Colorado Sunday, a postseason class checks, that's what we call them in the business at Vegas and I call at Colorado and McKinnon Sunday, class checks, acid tested for class in play, go Heinzi, go Heinzi, go Huzie and go Budzie with stay lock tonight on KFA at about 9 o'clock, the wild and the Vegas golden nights. Speaking of hockey, how excited are you loving men and women in the Spuds Covenant to hookie Dina tonight in the two way semis?

7:25More at with the Collin Covenant and these studs, these kids who are studs named Burgesson and Mikkelsen, Mikkelsen get the Hornets tonight around 8 with a chance to go back to back to state champs. Pretty cool. Meanwhile, the Hornets are prepared for the tired cake eater chance. Early Chase Björgard has some brick wall to him and his dad, Eric, E.B., general manager of Metropolitan Ford, once he Dina specifically to win this one this evening so badly that I truly believe if God guaranteed a W tonight against more head, Eric Björgard might comp all of his angels F-150s, I always love that one. That one follows Minnetonka taking on these guys. Play on here 5 on 5, the Irish have the puck as they leave the zone, they got some numbers

8:28as they enter. It's a drop pass here, the shot score, the Irish in overtime. It's Kate Sherman, the hero for Rosemount. Perfect snipe right there for Kate Sherman, if you're grand rapids, that's a top one. Halvi on the call for the Irish, Halvi's looking over up or leave Clover by the way in single A, the final four is comprised of Matamidi and Hibbing Chisholm at 11 and Warro Delano after that around 115 find those games on 96 seven KFA in plus with Halvi looking over a four leaf Clover. Yeah, it's going to be it's going to be Kevin Faulness doing the single A games so those early ones you mentioned and then it will be it will be Halvi on the call tonight for the two A games, the two A semis bucket list Kevin, I'll go get it today 96 seven KFA in the plus or the free I heart audio app or single A and with those double A's you just heard

9:34about Halvi looking over a four leaf Clover, those double A games guaranteed human, even with Halvi on the call, I always love that one. This is nine to noon. We are feasting football and free agency. One of the unrestricted free agents, I would like the Minnesota Vikings to investigate. Well, it happens to be this guy. Offs that I left behind Aaron Rodgers checking to go from the one prior move in motion to the left handoff game. Well close to the left side and he heads into the end zone touchdown, it's bird stealers. Joshua and the tell us had a shot at him, but he would have had to smack him because game well and a full head of steam and the Pittsburgh dealers have taken a six free lead. That one was in Dublin and unlike Halvi, we weren't lucky no for a four leaf Clover, but kind of game will add a big game. And for more reasons than just that game, yours truly happens to be moderately infatuated with running back kind of game. Well, why runs catches it doesn't cost a ton would compliment Jordan Mason nicely.

10:39And taking it even farther with a deep dive, not only would he compliment Jordan Mason nicely in the Vikings backfield, Kenneth Gainwell would give new running back Emmett Johnson a chance to grow and mature after they draft him seven Fridays from now. Oh my gosh, you are a bunch of average. Gainwell should command like a two year six million dollar deal. Yeah, it doesn't seem like that much, right? I would love to have him in the covenant. There are more we cover it and we have plenty of time to share and we will do so today. And Monday, the opening of NFL free agency, but for me, I'm going to start with a couple of game changers like Niners wide receiver, Joanne Jennings and Steelers running back kind of the game. Well, why not? Who knew? And finally, the bears are back in the news. The Chicago bears are back in the news. The great Courtney Cronin is reporting they are releasing Rangie linebacker, Tremaine

11:45Edmonds, KFA in sports talk time, 908, Tremaine Edmonds, Edmonds, Edmonds has played a bevy of snaps for the Chicago bears the last few years. If CC reports it, it's going to come to pass linebacker Tremaine Edmonds to be released by the division champions. So now your bears, when this release goes official, they're going to be like $46 million over the cap under the cap. Under the cap. Thank you. Free too. They'll be like $46 million under the cap, which could mean, yeah, the vision champions have absolutely have enough money for unrestricted free agent center, Tyler Linderbaum. Stop. Perhaps he's about to join the NFC North. And after that, because they got money, they could they got enough money to house free

12:51agent defensive entry Hendrix and stop or trade with the Raiders for defensive in Max Crosby, who doesn't seem to want to don the silver and black anymore. Stop. If the autumn wind is a raider pillaging just for fun, said gust might be blowing Crosby from the 702 and right to the Chicago football bears. Linderbaum versus new Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Peter Woods. I always love that one. That might be epic. Woods is a rookie three technique from Clemson. I just coveted by many be sweet if you played here Woods, sneaky little move gets around Linderbaum down goes Caleb Williams down goes Caleb stop. We need some money around here. We need some money. Can we get some money? Anybody out there with any liquid, any extra money to provide the football team and

13:51nine to noom. It's going to be a tough sell to do a go fund me for the NFL team, but I know, but we got the weekend and people look at social media a lot during the weekend. So who knows, man, we might be able to raise some Linderbaum money after, um, yeah. So after the bears release Edmonds, man, like like like $46 million under the cap, according to spot Rex boat track, the rest of the NFC North teams are all over the cap. All of us. Yeah. Over in Chicago heads into the weekend thinking, um, how he's looking over for leaf clover and I got all of us exactly, I got all of them exactly where I want them. That's beloved BJ got money buried in the morose of being broke and having to deal with all of his sweet plays. That might be the mindset of Ben Johnson right now. All y'all are broke and I'm going to bury you in the morose of being broke and having

14:52to deal with all my sweet plays. That is until Nordos guy Kyler rolls in here and assuming he can see over the offensive line. I always love that one hits Jefferson for a multitude of middle zone plays that provide the act in a way the league is astonished at how well the connection seems to be working. Kyler to JJ Kyler to Jefferson sounds good enough to eat. You know, that's one thing I haven't done yet with this quarterback conversation. Do we have to go down the offensive line and see what the height situation is? And if we're looking for a center and free agency, do we have to find somebody that's a bit shorter, a bit more stout? Yeah. Love the anchor. And you like error Bradbury, like you're a Bradbury. I always love that one red anger at angrioms out there how we can start with jergans and and just with a saw, you know, cutting off top of his ankles.

15:54That'll help. Son of in Jackson might need to get up to the knees have him have him play that way. And hey, if Kyler can see over the line of scrimmage, I'm telling you right now, those middle zone hits to Jefferson and Addison and Joanne Jennings with gain well picking up a micro Parsons blitz. I mean, now right there, holy cow, can't be excited with that. All right, three, two NFL free agency Monday, nine to noon, absolutely as a musk for all of you that day. Oh, right today is NHL trade deadline day. It's a big day for the state of hockey. About this, the New York hockey rangers, the red, white and blue of hockey, Madison Square Garden immortality scratched Vincent Trocheck last night against the Leafs. He was a healthy scratch and he's good. And rumors are the centerman is heading to either Carolina, Minnesota or Los Angeles today.

17:04According to those in the know, rangers GM Chris Drewry would prefer to pedal the Olympian to the Western conference. So that might hurt the old Carolina canes. So stay tuned for all that more on top of everything, KFA and sports talk times nine 14, Nordeau produces and I'm Paul Allen courtesy of Timbertech and Timbertech.com. What's on deck nine to noon includes some old school best school stories with recently retired writer and football immortality Peter King. That's around the corner. Jack Greenway stops by 45 minutes from now and actor and Vikings fan the great Adam Bartley is in studio today at 11 o'clock and he has a new venture that we think many of you are going to like. That's nine to noon with Nordeau and your truly Paul Allen KFA and sports talk time is nine 15. How he's looking over a four leaf clover and we're listening to Peter King around the corner at FM 100.3 KFA in happy Friday.

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22:12That's what I always think. Everything is going great. I am now able to, you know what the biggest benefit of tiring after doing that column for 27 years was, biggest benefit by far is the fact that, you know, if I want to watch the Sunday night game, if it's good, I watch it. If not, I watch the dog in the middle of the second quarter and by 9 30 or quarter to 10. I'm in debt. Right. And honestly, Paul, there was nothing about the job that I, that I hated at all other than one thing or even mildly disliked as that is it got to a point where I just didn't like working until 3.30 or 4.30 in the morning anymore. And that is what was happening on Sunday night. So NBC said, well, look, why don't you cut the column in half and finish writing it at

23:14midnight. And if there's a great Sunday night game, then you got to write about it. How can you write a column without writing about the Sunday night game? But anyway, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Life is good and I just chose to focus my efforts differently and had a good time writing this book. Yeah. And I would imagine you are, we're going to get to the book momentarily, it's called the game. But I would imagine you're ready for some with retirement some time at Fenway and rooting for your beloved socks, right? Well, I probably, you know, it's funny. I am a Red Sox fan, but I probably have grown to like the sport just as much as the Red Sox. And by that, I mean, you know, I live in Brooklyn. And so I can get on a subway and be it city field in about 35 minutes or get on a subway

24:17and be it Yankee Stadium in about 45 and I just, I just watching baseball. I just, I love it. And like I, I love when I have trips that take me to various places and, you know, I can find an excuse to go to Target Field and walk by the Siddharth and Statute and, you know, and all that stuff. Those are the things I really love because, you know, honestly, one of the great things about my job over the years, Paul, when I was a kid growing up in middle of nowhere, Connecticut, I was a kid. Our family didn't go on many vacations and we never traveled far and wide. And I always thought to myself, how cool would it be to be a journalist or a sports writer or any writer and be able to travel and see different parts of the country. And that never has left me. To this day, I just, I love it.

25:19You know, going to different parts of the country, we're going, my wife and I are going to Arizona next week, a few days of spring training, a couple of days of just hanging out in Arizona. And so anyway, whatever. I mean, I, I just, I love seeing the country and what a great country it is. Well, that, that's, I'm a man on that and that's fantastic. By the way, what's it like living in Brooklyn? What, what's it like living right in the heart of the concrete jungle? We really have grown to like it because we live in the apartment building. We are close to everything because we're close to subways that will take you anywhere, you know, in 20 to 30 minutes and 20 to 40 minutes really. And it's just a, it's a nice thing, you know, we raised our kids in New Jersey about 14 miles from Manhattan.

26:20And so we always thought it would be cool to be able to live in the city one day. And after a couple of years in Boston, we just wanted to see what that was like. After a couple of years, we just decided, hey, let's give it a go. And so we've actually been in the city, either Manhattan or Brooklyn since 2011 and have loved it. That's fantastic. And this is the familiar voice of Peter King, a long time with support illustrated and backed about 30 years. We remember him from NBC's football night in America and that Monday morning, a quarterback column each and every Monday was football immortality. He has a book called The Game. It's The Game by Peter King stories from 40 years of covering the NFL. Now the book is available in October, which is fantastic because that means we get bonus Peter King in six months to promote it and do, but you can pre order now because I did a lot of deep diving into some things that are in the book and I love old school stories

27:23as do a lot of a football fans listening now. So pre order it at norton.com. It is Norton.com. Let's get into some stories and begin with the middle eighties. What was it like in 84 when you covered the Cincinnati Bengals compared to the way the NFL was covered today? You know, the best way to describe it is the way that Mel Kieber described it to me. That was the first year working the NFL draft and Mel Kieber in 1984 was paid $400 for the entire year to work for ESPN covering the draft and ESPN actually telecast around a half of the draft that year and that was it. The draft that year was at the Omni Central Hotel in Midtown, Manhattan and there was

28:29125 people at the draft year and fans in a little balcony above the floor where the draft picks were made. But look Paul, I covered the Bengals in a little town in training camp in a little town called Wilmington, Ohio, where on the campus, the Wilmington College, MIT, the rookie coach put the Bengals through two a days every day and training camp was six weeks long. At a time, you know, Paul Brown was at practice, every practice with a huge Panama wide brimmed hat to send off the sun. I watched 20 practices easy, maybe 30 with him just standing with him at the year. And you know, honestly, the biggest regret on my career, honestly, is that I didn't walk

29:32away from every practice with Paul Brown and write down the stuff that he said because that would have been in and of itself a PhD class in football, I'll be, but it was just so much different. I mean, you live in the dorm and there were two payphones in the dorm and so a lot of the players would come by my room to use a phone in my room and a lot of players, Chris Collins or boomer's ice and others, Steve Criter, wide receiver, they didn't want to stand in line to use the phone of the phones in there. So you know, just Paul, just totally, totally from the world. That's fantastic. You know, and there are two still vivid NFL memories from around that time for me. And I want to see if you covered either one of these first, Joe Montana, making eye contact with actor John Candy in the stands during Super Bowl 23 and a few years earlier, Peter,

30:38Rams quarterback Dieter Brock, trying to beat the Vaughnid 85 Bears defense at Soldier Field in the NFC championship game. Did you, uh, were you on hand for either one of those? Uh, I was on hand for the Montana, John Candy game, uh, as far as the previous one, I was covering the New York Giants at the time, uh, in 1985, and that year the Giants went to Soldier Field to play in the divisional game against the Bears and lost 21 nothing. That was a game that, uh, Sean Landet, a whisk on a punt, the punt, uh, blew off. Uh, there was such a strong wind, it sold your field that day, uh, that the punt just blew to the side. So he couldn't, uh, he couldn't, uh, you know, we, we, he, he didn't punt the ball and the Bears when I killed him, the candy game was interesting because, you know, that was

31:42the game where, you know, Harris, Barton was just a kid and he couldn't believe anyone that he was playing in the Super Bowl. And, uh, and it was Montana who said to hand personally, a H, there's, there's John Candy over there. Look at him. And Harris, Barton looked at him, Google I, like holy cow, John Candy. But, you know, those were the days when stories like that were a lot more possible. You know, that's one thing and, you know, Paul, I will never say, oh my God, it was so much better to cover in those days, it was, you know, you know, like in 94 season when the 49ers won and Steve Young through six touchdown passes to beat the chargers. And after the game, I trailed him, uh, in his limo with his agent Lee Steintberg and he threw up on our shoes in the, uh, you know, he was so dehydrated and trying to, uh, you

32:43know, guzzle gatorade and he threw up. And then when he got his room at the Miami Airport, Mary out of Miami Airport Hill, I think it was a mario. Uh, he had to lay in his bed and get IVs in both arms before he could even start to celebrate. So, wow. I mean, it was, those were the days that it was a lot more possible to be a lot closer to players and coaches, but that, all of that stuff became my white whale and why I would determine that I was going to always be able to do things like that. And the last two super balls covered were the two Kansas City Super Bowl wins in the 22, 23 seasons. And I was fortunate enough after both of those games to be alone with Andy Reed and having diagram what exactly happened that allowed the chiefs to win those games.

33:43That's spectacular. I mean, second and unaccess and, and in fact, we're going to get into, uh, that into maybe some lessons for journalists coming, coming up through the ranks. So to speak a little later with Peter King, uh, we, uh, we're sharing memories from a, a book that's going to come out in October, but you can pre-order it now. It's called the game and, and it's 40 years of football stories with the great Peter King pre-order for the October release, please. And you can learn more. Let's, uh, let's go with Peter's, uh, X handle at Peter underscore king at Peter underscore king is a good place to do that of the game, 40 years with PK. All right. Uh, mid 90s, uh, 93 free agency started. Now Reggie White, the great, Reggie White and Peter King went flying around the country together during the first year of free, first year in the history of free agency in the NFL. Uh, walk us through that, please. And I hope I got the story right and, and what led Reggie to choosing the Green Bay Packers

34:45who weren't very good at that time. What happened basically is that Reggie White was, uh, uh, Reggie White was the jewel. And he won the lawsuit along with the XLPA to be able to be, uh, a free agent. And so what basically happened is that Reggie White in the course of trying to decide what he wanted to do, uh, plane trips all around the country. I was on the trip with him, uh, and his wife, Sarah, his agent Jimmy Sexton, also Harry Galgurth, a guard at that time, uh, was flying around with him. And I went from Tennessee to Cleveland with them and talked about, you know, what was to come, what was expected. He was going to go to the line dying to everything by Art Modell and at the time it was funny

35:45Bill Belichick with the coach hard to be lined and dying by Bill Belichick. But that's what was going to happen. But what ended up happening on that whole thing is that, you know, I think Reggie, uh, field was a little bit limited financially by some of the teams that really didn't have a lot of room, didn't have the NFL set at early, that first year, some, some difficult rules for the top four teams in the game, uh, the previous year. The teams in the conference championship games to be able to bid out pre-agents. And so San Francisco was one of the teams that was limited and really, I think he really wanted to go to San Francisco and look, I mean, I know he really wanted to go to San Francisco. But at the time, you know, the Packers had more to offer. And I think he was also a little bit taken.

36:46I write in the book about pre-agent trip he took to Green Bay, which instead of going to getting lined and dined, uh, he had a one hour lunch at the Red Lobster in Green Bay with Red Roads and Mike Honggren and Brett Farve. And they all told him, you got to, you know, whatever. And Honggren, uh, was the perfect coach to recruit Reggie because he wasn't going to be the high pressure salesman and Reggie be high pressure. But there are, there's some, I mean, that's really one of my favorite chapters in the book because going back and re-reporting, talking to Ron Wolfe, the GM and Mike Reinfeld the Cap Guy of the Packers, talking to Jimmy Sexton about doing this deal, it's, I mean, this is, there's a lot of suspense in, in that chapter, it's really one of my favorites

37:46in the book. That's so beautiful. That's so beautiful. Thanks for sharing the way you did, Peter. Speaking of the 90s, what was the Jimmy Johnson Jerry Jones dynamic like? You know, the dynamic was that after he won a second Super Bowl, uh, you know, I was really surprised at the, the sort of, um, so one of the things I tried to do Paul in those years is I tried to get in travel with the Super Bowl winning coach the morning after the game going to his day after press conference. Wow. Okay. I had gone with Jimmy after he won the first, his first Super Bowl, uh, and, and then, you know, and he was effervescent, abulliant, so happy. And after the second one, he was miserable, absolutely, totally miserable.

38:46And I didn't know that two months later, he was, he and Jerry were going to get this ugly divorce, but I just knew there were big problems. And I detail a lot of those problems, and I think it all has to do with the fact that he gave Jimmy a lot of power when he came to coach the Cowboys and Jimmy exercised the power. Jimmy is the one who made the trade, Jimmy is the one who did all these things. And so the bottom line and the whole thing is that Jimmy, I think, just really chafed at all the stuff that Jerry wanted to get credit for that he didn't do. And that is really one of the big things that led to their divorce. Some second and none elite stories from Peter King involving his book called The Game, 40 years of covering the NFL, www.norton.com. If you're interested in ordering it pre-ordering it, the book actually is released in October. And you'll hear more from PK later in this nine to noon around the corner, bikes bites

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42:53Exfinity. Imagine that. Restrictions apply. Hey in. Welcome back. It's 9 to 9 and certainly Vikesbytes will be in play. But we are in the midst of deadline day for the National Hockey League and a couple of moves made by the Minnesota Wild. This took place yesterday. Florida Defensemen Jeff Petri, out of the old timer. It sounds like he's a right shot defenseman. He's going to provide some depth along with Damon Hunt and he was added to the Minnesota Wild yesterday. He will join the team in Vegas. This is Per Russo. It's a depth move, as I mentioned, but I guess there's no max roster size. There's no limit on it. So as long as you put together whatever the top 20 is way, et cetera, you can just keep adding as long as you stay under the cap. So depth moves in play, want to write shot defenseman.

43:54We got Jeff Petri from the Panthers. And additionally, this coming out more recently, 10, 15 minutes ago, Bobby Brink, Bobby Brink, a winger from the Philly Flyers, 24 years old, 13 goals, 13 assists in his 55 games this season. He's headed to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for David Yurichek. Yes. Yes. And this is, let me see here, Minnesota native skilled winger. Good offensive instincts can make plays, high compete and character, wild see him as a third line right wing who can move up in line up. If needed, he is a pending restricted free agent this summer. So all that news coming from coming from Russo radio. Now the interesting thing about Bobby Brink is the name sounds familiar, because it's got that it's that alliteration. That's a sweet name. Bobby Brink. It's one of those names that requires you following it with Bobby Brink. I got all his albums. Well, he's Minnetonka's finest.

44:55So he's a Minnetonka native. Dad was a Gofers hockey player, I believe. Wow. He led the skippers Minnetonka high school to its first ice hockey championship. Wow. I had to pull this from Wiki, but in day indeed, 2018, he won a title with Minnetonka at five goals in the tournament, 21 goals team leading 56 points in 31 games. So star at Minnetonka, Susity Musketeers finds his way to the NHL, finds his way to Philly, and now he's headed the same Paul. How about that? A couple of moves. People looking for Trochek, looking for Stamco's, looking for, was it Ryan O'Reilly? They're looking for some of these guys while they found Bobby Brink. Bobby Brink. And we do indeed now, or at least we will shortly, have all of his albums. Well, yours truly requires or recalls. For Year of Check, a fair haul was given to get him, I believe, and then we had injuries. Clearly it didn't work out. I think Year of Check was for a first-round pick. Oh, that would define quite the haul.

45:55So Year of Check's gone. These with Budzie's Philly Flyers, Bobby Clark O'Crazy, now he got Brink and whatever else you mentioned. And how does all of that backdoor into the team potentially trading for Olympian Vincent Trochek with the Rangers who was scratch last night, who was a healthy scratch against the Leafs. Why? Because the Rangers are going to trade him today, and they didn't want him to get hurt. I believe the term terminology used was roster management purposes. So the roster management, does it mean Trochek will now be managed by this roster, that of the Carolina Hurricanes, or Fiala relief with the LA Kings. Inquiring minds want to know, and today is NHL Trade Deadline Day, Bobby Brink, welcome to the Covenant. Yeah, and you know, the thing with this, and there's more to come throughout the day is the deadline approaches. I was listening to 10 a yesterday, and I've heard it throughout.

46:57So maybe in the aftermath, sifting through the ashes, we can learn more. But kind of the idea of he has certainly because of like the Quinn Hughes move and stuff like that, limited assets, and the idea of, well, do you want to go all in with Trochek now versus potentially something that's even bigger and or better this summer? Right. And the only question I would have is, what is that? Well, what's bigger and better is making sure Hewsy stays. Well, yeah. I mean, top of the head, top of the head for me, let's make sure Hewsy stays. I think there's more term left on his deal after this year, another year, another year. Yeah. So the summer would be the time to take one and make it five, take one and make it six, make sure you keep Hewsy, Boldsy, Caprice off, Erickson, Eck. And we'd be another high flying youngster we would have to keep. Well, those four for sure, we got favors, favors in a long term deal, boldies on a long term deal.

47:58Okay. So those five, that's that, that's the fab five, right there, that would be the fab five. So Corilsie in Boldsy in Fabesie in Jewel Erickson, Eck and Hewsy, got to make sure those two stay part of the covenant. So that could be the next big move. Indeed. Well, let's get to some vikes, bites on a Friday morning, the Friday before legal tampering into free agency into New League year and according to PA, my guy, Kyler Murray, potentially joining the Minnesota Vikings always has been your guy. You mentioned yesterday, PA among some guys that you're just kind of kicking tires on with free agency around the corners. You guys would like to learn more about how much are they going to cost? Conor McGovern, it sounds like the center for the Buffalo Bills was a name that, uh, I think we both co-signed on just somebody we're intrigued by it. Yep. How much that is going to cost a nice career in Buffalo. He's been in charge of supporting Josh Allen and now maybe he comes to Minnesota and helps out, uh, Kyler Murray, uh, Florida Smith, Kirk Cousins, so let the flirtation games

49:04begin. Mm hmm. But the fact of the matter is PA is, is just looking at what is available potentially to the Minnesota Vikings in free agency specifically with center. I don't know how deep you've dug. I mean, lender bombs going to be expensive and probably a bear. Yep. And then McGovern probably among the, the higher end ones as well, but you start digging into these names. I need guys that made all the dances, PA, so I'm looking, I'm like, oh, Ethan Posage played a lot of games, tons of games for the Seattle Seahawks and the Cleveland Browns. Achilles though. Mm. Lloyd Cushionberry. I was wondering, you just signed like a $50 million deal a couple years ago with the Titans. A legal name like Atticus Sappington. Indeed. Lloyd Cushionberry. I think he's the third, by the way. Mm hmm. Yes, he comes from, uh, a royal family. Indeed. Well, Atticus Sappington's the first, and when he walks off on NFC South teams kicking for the Atlanta Falcons, you will know his name. But Lloyd Cushionberry, just like a $50 million deal, Titans love him.

50:06They cut him a week ago for a failed physical. In 2024, Achilles though, oh, James Daniels, James Daniels started at the center at Iowa, played guard center was flexible with the Chicago Bears, went to the Steelers, fresh new outlook, South Beach for the Miami Dolphins. Mm hmm. Oh, a pec injury. At the beginning of 2025, you missed the remainder of the season. Really? Are you kidding me with all this? Regardless of what, what happens with the quarterback spot PA? I'm just looking at that again, Ryan Kelly, love him, the head injuries, the injury issues, the potential cap savings associated with saying goodbye. All of those things lead me down the road if there's going to be a new center for the Minnesota moving company. Are we possibly in a spot PA where we are looking at Michael Juergens and Blake Brandel as starting week one 2026 for the purple? You would be, we would be, all of us would be, if we recognize the reality, the Chicago

51:08Bears have all the money, nobody else in the division has any. The watch beloved BJ, House Linderbaum, and McGovern, because he can, that's, you know, when you were rattling through the quarterbacks and everything, I was like, yeah, there's, there's JJ McCarthy too, everybody. Yeah, he still exists. Hey, JJ McCarthy, just turned 23, probably his big boy's probably grown up a little bit, mature, out there throwing on the West Coast with something, something called John Beck. And then you got Juergens and Brandel. Yeah, sure. I mean, they, they, I'm not going to pretend to have watched their, what's up CG, to have watched their all 22 and watched it back from the 2025, but they definitely are options. And their options, especially if beloved BJ uses all of his money and takes Linderbaum and McGovern, only time we'll tell, Davey, let me get you with this free agency around

52:10the corner. If for some reason we had some money and needed to upgrade defensively, money just walked in the door in the shape of Chad Greenway, yeah, we, all the NFC North got money now. Can you put a down payment on our defensive front in 2026? Yep. An investment opportunity for number five to, well, with Greenway here, if we talk quarterbacks, beginning 10 minutes from now, it recognized the last time Jimmy Garoppolo was mentioned on a Friday into this microphone. I ended up walking the streets of New Orleans by myself. So let's be very cognizant and smart of these quarterbacks that we bring up, okay? Thank you. If, if we need some help defensively, I don't know how much you've watched him. There's a guy that intrigues me. His name is Leo Chanel with the Kansas City Chiefs. Yep. And at the linebacker spot, he'll play inside and outside for Spags's defense. I like the versatility from a flora standpoint. He's terrific against the run, but he also has the wheels to pass rush.

53:14Leo Chanel, as a potential linebacker, if there's either some Eric Wilson related negativity, we could look at our own guys and the fact that Ivan Pace may be not guaranteed to return etc. Leo Chanel is just a name, former badger, I think, I put that in my back pocket and just kind of kick some tires on that a little bit. I like how Leo plays. I wonder if playing on the chiefs, the way they run things, and the fact that they're the chiefs, man, they're in every single game. They seem like they're all one-score games, but there's just way the game shape can dictate how well or how poorly players play over the course of time. And the point being here is in this individual year of free agency, I just wonder if the Alec Pierce's, Joanne Jennings and Leo Chanel's of the world, if they're just going to get X amount of dollars more than anybody ever thought they should get, because free agency ain't the greatest thing in the world this year, unless you're beloved BJ and you

54:15get the guy from Baltimore and Buffalo, they have all the money, they got all the money, you can't just feud it. They have all the money. All right. Now, don't physically accost me when I go down this road. Okay. Jamal Dean, I believe, was a name that Ben Lieber brought up yesterday, and he's a nice corner from Tampa, but we're pension pennies, and it is a free agency period where we are scratching the surface of Alec Pierce's of the world. What if Brizz has the 2026 version of the poison pill up his sleeve, and he's about ready to drop something on Monday, nobody sees coming? Jeff Akuda, I believe we could have put that in the box of being maybe a reclamation project, an opportunity for him, sadly, concussions and just his inability to make the dances and stay on the field, prove to be problematic. Don't hit me. I wonder what Eric Stokes is up to these days. That's really interesting, you said that.

55:16No, I'm not. In fact, I'm going to join exactly what you said in lockstep, because now Eric Stokes somebody who has had a lot of his skills, running ability and stuff like that robbed by injury, like Jeff Okuda. Now Stokes wasn't in Okuda's class when he played at Georgia, and Okuda played at Ohio State. Okuda was just a better overall corner back in the day, and we found our way around Eric Stokes when he was wearing green and gold a little bit too. But here's the deal, and I don't know how many played for the Raiders last year, so maybe it's still, you know, play three, miss five, play two, miss six. I got no idea. I'll find it in ten seconds. Stokes is gifted if he has not lost, assuming he's lost part of his skill set, but not all of it. What would Eric Stokes be like in a Brian Flores defense? You see, that's what intrigues me there because he's going to be cheap of all cheap ever

56:19to be cheap. Yes. And he made, he made 16 games, he's played, there's only miss one game the last two seasons, last one in Green Bay and last year for Raiders. Oh jeez, didn't know that. So he's made the dances. So you just need to think of like what Fabian Moro gave this team in the amount of time he played. Yeah. Now Moro's been around the block longer than Stokes, and he stayed healthier. But he was a third slash fourth corner, and when Moro had to play because of the way they crafted the way Flores craft defense, there were times in Seattle, Moro ended up singled against Jackson Smith and Jigbaugh, and they didn't trip on it and nothing bad happened because they had the pass rush constructed in a way where Sam had no idea where it was coming from. So that so Flores squeezed every single thing you possibly can out of Fabian Moro. So when I saw the name Eric Stokes, I thought the exact same thing you thought, why not?

57:23Different type of defense, skilled, but is lost some of the physical ability due to injuries undoubtedly or he wouldn't be where he is now. And that's something that I would kick the proverbial tires a little bit on. And I know from a Minnesota sports fan standpoint, you want Trochak, you want Stamcoast, you're learning about Jeff Petri and Bobby Brank, right? Something new happened? No, no, no, no, but my point is is you want Linderbaum, you want some of these names in free agency, and we're talking about Leo Shinol and Eric Stokes. That's kind of the place where our favorite team is at the moment, right? So we should have the draft to change and you have the draft for corners and centers is I want like Monday last year, that theme in cap, by the way, he's the way he showed out at the draft. I'm almost wondering if he's going to be available at 18. Oh geez. That kid's good, dude. Yeah, and the man, the way we secured the steam, the second and none. Atticus Sappington. Sappington. The Atlanta Falcons 2026 kicker about ready to walk off on Baker twice.

58:23But having gone from a 90 minute chat with Oregon kicker, Atticus Sappington, having never heard of Tina M. Thiniman to then get into the combine and learning about Thiniman, the Oregon duck safety. Well, then now all of a sudden it's like, well, this is just too good to be true. The person I sat next to him, what he said about the guy and we need this and it just seems too perfect for us to not have him. Yeah, it does seem too perfect. So let's make it happen in April. Last thing for you, if Gainwell wasn't a thing, I just had Rico Dowdell written down a bit. I don't know how much he's going to cost either. Not bad. Career high and catches. He's got some burst can protect the passer a little bit. Well, given they're going to select Nebraska's Emma Johnson seven Fridays from today, you got to have somebody that doesn't put so much pressure on Emmett Johnson right out of the gate. Right out of the gate. So like if Mason has to miss time or a Dowdell slash Gainwell have to miss time, it's slide in E.J.

59:24Perfect. Wait till you slide that Minnesotan into a prominent role at US Bank Stadium in a provincial state. I mean, you thought the Minneapolis miracle cheer was loud. Holy cow. This place is going to go crazy, man. Oh, that's some bikes. Bites for you. Some things we're pondering some bits and some things to look forward to with Monday ahead of us. Where are you going to be later today? I'm going to be at the Northwest Sports Show at the Minneapolis Convention Center from four to six. Sweet. Fish and chips and much more with Nordow. It's 10 o'clock. That's KFA in sports time. Game changer back in the day, Chad Greenway courtesy of Greyduck Spirits and Greyduck vodka joins 9 to noon next. This is Jacob Goldstein from What's Your Problem. When you buy a business software from lots of vendors, the cost adds up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odo is all connected on a single platform in a simple and affordable way.

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