#92Noon! 11a Hour 3/11 - Zolak/Krisztal

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4:09NFC championship game you can't make that throw. That's, that's a pulling out legendary call. Wow. Do we do it all the time? What might show? I can't believe what I just heard, but when you, and thank you, when you call these Patriots games, man, I mean, you know, obviously we got some super balls, obviously your relationship with Tom Brady over the years is probably pretty deep. Bella check, do you know, you, you know, Bella check inside now, but things with the Patriots up until this year had been a little slow to go. For the last, whether you're getting critical or whether you're celebrating, you love calling New England Patriots games, don't you? Absolutely. And it's like painting a picture, you know, being a color guy, you got a much safer job. Like you got to set the seed, you got to know what down at distance it is. What's the time? What's the formation? Who's such a ball? I react to the play. Good or bad? And if it's bad, it's good to be bad by me.

5:09There's no Homerism, even though a lot of people do call me a home, because I think we've had what 85% of the plays be good, what Brady was here, and you'll make it 10 to 15 bad. So you got a lot of good golf. But what are bad? I am pretty good. And there's nothing better called an NFL game. You know that. Yeah. For sure. What's it like working with the scholarly Bob Soci? The play by play guy for the Pats with his, with his understated ways. You guys make the perfect team for Patriots radio, at least that's how I see it. What do you like calling games with Bob? It's amazing. He puts so much preparation into it and we're so different. We're like completely polar opposites, like the odd couple, but he knows exactly what's going on. He studies the game. He's got to spend hours upon hours the prior weeks just walking around, taking pictures of wherever we're playing at any time, sort of just digest everything. He's always got some tag at the beginning of the game, something important with the city

6:11that he slides in there. But Bob's really great. We've got five Super Bowls. I did one with Gil Santos. So yeah, we had a, we had a, we had a, we had a really good run and it starts to feel like, boy, it was the end, the two four, back to back four with seasons. Yeah. And now we're back baby. It feels like we're back out and again. Zolec was a quarterback in the NFL for almost a decade. What, what are some traits Drake may possesses that potentially can sustain and lead to not just being good, but being great? It's over competitive. First of all, I played against his dad, Mark Bay in college, he went to Carolina with the Maryland. And he sees the film really well and let's check it off that's coordinated two years with Alex Fantel. A year ago, running the West Coast, and I think he's running a much more typical offense with Joshua Daniels. I was in that offense and it's, I mean, it's a better game. He's tough.

7:11He knows when to run and when he takes off, it's sort of the theft of running. It's straight up and down. Doesn't look like he's fast, but that can't turn a quarter, man. And it gives him another weapon. He's a great deep pulverard. Scott, did you, did you in any way get to know Viking said coach Kevin O'Connell when he was drafted by the Pats back in 2008? I did. I studied it for the fall. I love what he's doing. He was in and out so quick, which was odd. I think they drafted him, I think, in the third round and right away, he got cut less of the year. So, but he found, he found his next man, coach and football, so that's for sure. What done, Mom? Speaking of Vikings coaches, Scott Zalak is our guest 9 to noom. What, what was it like working with Brian Flores when he was there? I mean, but Brian's a calculated cold-blooded customer, isn't it? I would always be out on the road when we go on the road, we hit one of those dive bars on the road. In a back corner where it starts, you would be able to see Chad O'Shae, who was the

8:14other one we had, another coach, Brendan, he's what's he, what's he, he's what can't to say? Brendan Daly. And of course, you always see the blood cold killer right there. He was so good at cold defense as it pledged, and when the coach turned over to the French coordinator job to him, we got better, we blitzed more, we went on to win another super ball. I remember that last quarter against the Rams, he sat down, Brian Flores, he says, hey, we need 15 good calls and this is a ball game. That's amazing. I like build new an U-15, 13 plays to win the game, he said, the audit, get your call ready, be ready to go. And he's a leader of it, his players love it, I know that. And Scott, you know this better than anybody, but when you have a super ball, all right, an extra time to plan, you know, of course, of course, of, of Raeball and, and the coaches are going to look back at as much as they can from the Seahawks season.

9:16Well, there was a play in the third quarter, man, where now granted the Vikings got shut out by Seattle, but it was a relatively close game into the second half before a pick six to Ernie Jones. And the Patriots ran a play where they had seven across the line of scrimmage, and it's the exact play the Vikings ran against Darnold earlier in the season and sacked him, and the Patriots got to him too. So I mean, that was like a Flores special that was borrowed for the super ball. Copycat League, man. That's what you do. You study the field. We have four former head coaches on our staff that work really well together. Like, that's the biggest difference. Everybody talks about Drake May. It's Mike Frable. You know, he sets the culture. He sets the tone in the building. His energy is amazing. It's infectious. It works really well with his staff. And he gives them a lot of credit when things get done. Hey, Scott. What, um, recently are actually yesterday. What do you think about the Ravens rejecting the Max Crosby trade? Did they, did they not know he was hurt?

10:18Right. It's coming out there. Uh, but it's just surgery. Like, what, what did you expect of the BAT? That's a confusing part to be. Like, I don't know. Somebody got gold feet on that one. It's weird. It's really screwed. Some raiders, the raiders. Yeah. They just had $60 million to center. So all Max's money came off the books. Now I'm going to send you all this money to spend. Now they got to play nice and say, can we get him under the cap and read negotiate? Wow. Max households on the cards now. Yeah. Scrooge raiders. Good. Sorry. And, and, you know, I don't know how good Dremont Jones is. I've, you know, we were in NFC territory. I know he's decent. He just got paid a little bit. But like Dremont Jones left because they thought they had Max Crosby. True. True. And I don't know much about Dremont. Like, he's sacked right now twice for two different teams. So he played for, he played for Titans and for the Ravencans. I really don't remember much about it. Yeah. You know what he said? When I studied in deep depths, I know the corners, I know the safety. I know the middle linebacker.

11:18The games become so rotational. You know what I'm talking about. You see five guys come off. Five go on. You got a lot of them to substitute. And it's that whole back and forth. I can't keep track of which edge guy or which, you know, unless it's, I'll scare it. You know, I'm going to not remember some of those. Yeah. The Scott Zollack analyst for the Patriots radio network nine to noon with a football covenant catch up. The Minnesota Vikings are at Gillette Stadium next year. If the Vikings end up with Kyler Murray a quarterback, how do you think that'll work out? Not great. Why? Not great. Uh, I just can read a lot of stuff on him. Yeah. He didn't study, didn't know to fill. Uh, coaches got on him for that. He's a couple of years into the state now where he should be. He should be rolling. Now, here's athletic. He blew his knee out. The game we called against him. I've always called one game against him. But, you know, it's just, well, you're not on a good team. You're a big stack guy. So you're going to have your three hundred three hundred fifty four of your games.

12:20Uh, you got a run spread. You got to receive us there. Um, I'm not a big fan. Uh, I like what you have. San Arnold. Probably should have kept him. But, but, but, but, it's, uh, the vision is just create. Well, yeah. But we're going to get to Arnold here in a second. I only have three left for you. What, uh, when, uh, when, when, when calling New England Patriots games, which team do you most enjoy the Patriots beating? Oh, that's a good one. Probably the jets. We like, we like nothing but the jet. We, we dislike the jets so much. You know, such are playing days. They just do stupid things every year. Uh, there's another cycle, spread cycle, genos. That's back there now. Like, what the hell are they doing? Uh, fun beat Miami. I thought you were going to ask you what's the most fun team to call games against? I was going to give you a steal. It's some of the Pittsburgh kids. I love going back. I'm back to high school games here.

13:20Create environment. Uh, was, um, uh, digsy step on digs was, was digs a handful last year for the Patriots and were you surprised he was released? This phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal. Uh, there was an incident on the boat before even came up there last spring. Right. And, uh, since the phone call was made, you got a butt on a flight. Got up here and it was nothing but a complete leader, a lots of guy, energy guy, pumping up everybody on the sideline. They loved him. Mike very, very loved him. Um, when you, when your money goes up to make a 26, 27th and you can just don't have the burst you had. Yeah. Yeah. Rob, Rob missed. He had to be so much better at other guys. He was. But you know, the playoffs, it was very limited production. Uh, the ability to separate. If we don't, he's a zone telling man. He's so good to get zone. Uh, but we love having it, man. I wish you could be back. Uh, last one here for Scott Zollack lead analyst for the Patriot radio network.

14:20You mentioned Sam Darnold. All right. Um, and, and as, as I said earlier, on myself, the producer Nordo and a bunch of people in this market, man, we're, we're fans of the way you and Bob call games. And we talk about it on this nine to noon radio show. So I listened to you and Bob call a fair amount of the Super Bowl. And, and, you know, uh, despite the outcome, you, you absolutely were expecting. Sam Darnold to unravel. And he nearly did. I mean, you were into that man. You were looking for it because you knew what you were looking for. And it all Scott there, but it didn't. Is that a fair assessment? Fair assessment quarterback kits. I do think we're going to go after him and give him problems. That's where he's uncomfortable. There were three to five throws in that first half. If our guys just turned to look at the ball, because they're ready to hit pocket. And both basically hit our guy in the back of the helmet. Um, I'm like, he's jumped today. And he was his first half was a bad a half. Uh, a football and a Super Bowl that you could watch.

15:22We were looking at some of the stats. I remember asking a Mark Capel or a stack guy. Hey, what's final right now? He was 417 at one point in that first half. But, uh, Walker and that defense carried him in. And that's, that's what one of my game. It's sort of like the one paid one out. I remember when his arm was shot. Wait tilts in that defense. You know, carrying up this Super Bowl. Zolac. What are you looking at? Lately, my friends keep asking what I'm doing to my skin. Honestly, I didn't change my makeup. I changed my skincare. It's called Farmhouse Fresh. This award-winning fresh-grown brand is a 14-year favorite of U.S. Spas and beauty magazines and celebrities agree. If you're over 40 and feel like nothing really makes a difference anymore, this does. My skin looks brighter, smoother. And yes, people notice. Get the Farmhouse Fresh skincare glow. Go to FarmhouseFreshSkinCare.com. Dear McDonald's, your breakfast menu? Fire.

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18:23keyword contest. What's up? Do a cover to catch up with an old friend, Brandon Kristall, at VK Denver Sports, via the Tweet machine. Now with the Gorilla Sports, and VK joins us now. Hey, man, it was great seeing you at the Combine. How are things? Good. Although two years in a row, we have been like ships passing in the night, even though I'm at the Combine for almost five or six days every year. I think I waved at you and talked to you for two seconds last years. You were running for a quick, quick restroom break, and then this year I gave you a hug and you were jumping on air. And so we have actually been able to talk face to face, but it was great to see your face and give you a hug. So no, things are, things are good out here in Broncos country. If the nuggets configure things out and the avalanche keep doing what they're doing, as we saw against the wild on Sunday. And by the way, they're almost talking about getting another major league team here in Denver again with the Rockies. So it's exciting. We could have a major league team sometimes. Hey, a couple of things. A, a short, I'm 60 years of age.

19:24So a short bathroom break, no longer is the case. I always love that one. Secondly, what was this year's combine? Because we saw each other by where the coaches, players and executive speak. What was that the most frenzied, crowded combine you've ever seen? Yes. And here's the thing. So they, every team has a table now. Because there were years, and I remember the very first combine I ever went to. I think you were one of the two or three radio stations that found their way down to Indianapolis. Not the longest trip for even not the shortest. And that was all there was for radio row. But now because every team has a digital platform and, and use, you know, use the digital space one way or another, that's 32 more tables. Plus, we know that media has grown. And there's all these independent outlets like my own. Let alone, I heart stations like the one in Denver or KOA that I worked with forever or yours. And so I think it's a lot of people.

20:24They say this space is bigger, but there's a lot more people. And it's more, it was more compact. So they had us closer to the prospects. I like the energy of that. It can be a little wonky because everybody has a camera. And you're having to just figure out how to navigate it. And so it was frenzied. But I think that energy is good. I think about super bowls of the past. Like, well, one of my all-time favorites. Whether notwithstanding Minneapolis, it's a mall of America being in that food court with all of us on top of each other. You just get that same energy. So even if you're not talking to Barry Sanders or Patrick Mahomes, well, they're sitting right next to you so you can kind of talk about them. And you kind of feel that, you know, that buzz. And so I think that that made another wise. We know that if the quarterbacks aren't sexy, the combine's never going to be as exciting as it could be. BK, what is Gorilla Sports? And so that was our conversation that we had very briefly last year. Like, I want to hear more about Gorilla Sports. It's a digital platform that does all the things that a radio or a TV station would do, but without, you know, an over-the-air signal. So we do a number of shows, including one with Woody Page called After the Horn.

21:26Jake Plummer does a couple of shows with us. I do a show every Friday. I did it during football season with Chris Harris Jr. The former Brown Coast Corner, Chris Harris, Ryan Harris, Minneapolis native son, and Shelby Harris have done a show the last couple of years that I created called We're the Hairses. We have the best avalanche coverage around by a mile. We cover the nuggets, we cover the Rockies, and, you know, CU and CSU. So we are covering everything in town, and just doing it digitally on YouTube, and Facebook, and Twitter, and Instagram, and TikTok, and all that. And so, and then obviously wherever you can hear your podcasts when we do our long form stuff, but we've kind of perfected the short form clips as well, because we're a production company that started doing sports. I love that. Now, locally, we have a former teammate here at KFAM, Darren Dougie Wolfson. Dougie is about as good in this market this side of Michael Russo, who covers the wild for the athletic. When it comes to sourcing, and, and just being in front of a lot of things

22:26with a lot of different sports teams, BK's like that in Denver, Brandon Kristall at BK Denver Sports. And, you know, I know the Broncos are the most popular team there, but I caught this little video clip that you did a few days ago. I think you made five predictions, at least two of them hit, but the J three, three, it was three. Yeah, well, yeah, three out of five and the other two. Wow. I think I was half right on. Right. Well, yeah, sorry to cut you off. No, you were allowed on the JK Dobbins resigning with Denver. And I'm not saying I didn't think it would happen, but I mean, you got allowed about it. Clearly the background or sourcing was 10 of 10, and he resigned. So nice work on that. I didn't realize how good he was last year for the Broncos till he got hurt. Yeah, he was, he was clearly the most consistent part of their offense, only because Bonix was so up and down throughout games a lot, and then obviously so good in the fourth quarter, throughout so many of their wins that, you know, it often overshadowed the kind of pedestrian, if not even disappointing first through third quarters at times that Bo had.

23:29And RJ Harvey is a rookie running back. We know that rookie running backs are, it's easy for them to get on the field, but for them to have really big success. It doesn't necessarily always happen, you know, unless they're just getting fed the rock consistently. But then once Dobbins goes down after that flute injury against the Raiders, then Harvey kind of took off because they had to utilize them more and saw how good he was after the catch. And so Dobbins continues to call all these injuries fluky, and it was funny because week over a week last year, somebody brought up like, you know, your injury prone. It's like, I'm not injury prone. It's like, I've had a few injuries. They're like, okay, the knock on JK Dobbins, it was, well, he was good at Ohio State, comes to Baltimore, but gets hurt. Then comes back, gets hurt again. Goes to the charges, even, you know, that really good year he had. He's still missed four games, including one of the ones against the Broncos that Thursday night or where the Denver blew the 21 nothing lead. And so he had his best career year ever two years ago, and was on pace for an even better year. But then he goes down in early November on that Thursday night or with the, with the foot, the hip drop tackle.

24:33And then he was shut down. Basically, he thought he was ready to go even before the AFC title game. People close to him have told me, and they were just being cautious with them. And then maybe what do you go on the championship game? They, I mean, Sean Payton said it was close, and we saw him work out. But then there was, I think, a slight setback late in that practice week. And they wanted him around. You know, I don't know if he was truly playing 1A here, but he was one far from 1B or, you know, or 2A in terms of what they're running back, you know, free agent approach would look like knowing that Harvey was obviously going to still be here just going into year two. And they wanted to be healthy, because they would love for him to play 17 games plus a handful of playoff games, obviously. Hey, BK is Sean Payton really going to let Davis Webb call plays? Yes. Wow. Like the whole game. Well, I think it's going to be a lot of, hey, what do you think about this here? Or, you know, you might want to look at that here. I'm actually really fascinated by this all the way around. I don't, I don't know this for a fact by any means,

25:35but I'm not sure this was 100% Sean's complete idea. I'm not saying that owner Greg Penner said, hey, Sean, why don't you have Davis call plays? I think that there were probably open-ended conversations. I do think Sean in the middle of the year when the offense was struggling at times, probably thought, okay, maybe I should see what Davis can do. I mean, it's what he told us at the combine. And Davis is kind of a one-of-one type person and then that, you know, he, well, first of all, he's an outstanding hockey player as a kid in Texas. He scored 10-11 goals in games pretty frequently, I guess. He had a choice between playing quarterback but his dad was a high school coach or sticking with hockey, so he chose the quarterback route. But I mean, he started a game in the NFL in week 17 a few years ago when the Giants actually made the playoffs. Not that a lot of people remember that. Daniel Jones sat and he started that week 17 game. And then as a quarterbacks coach, the next year for the Broncos, Sean Payton here, and he's got every game plan he's ever had since high school or maybe even before that on spreadsheets and on files on his computer.

26:35And you talk to the quarterbacks, they love them and talk to some defensive coaches with the team. They think that he's got a really creative mind. And so I think that Sean also is 62 years old and knows that he maybe isn't as quick as he was. Now, I say quick, getting the play in and knowing what's coming next and looking ahead because at 62, your brain may just not fire the way it once did when you were 52 or 42. And so that's not a knock on Sean. But he always talks about Bill Parcells. We hear about Bill Parcells probably once a week, PA. And Bill Parcells didn't necessarily call the playoffs. Now, he made sure they were running the plays he won. I think about Mike Brable in that AFC title game. I'm not sure Josh McDaniels would have run it nine straight times coming out of halftime, but I have a feeling Mike Brable said, hey, we're running it. So just keep running the football. And so I think with Sean, he's going to let Davis, I think learn on the job. Now, will it surprise me if come week two, week three, week four? They struggle and Sean gives us an press conference. Well, that was Davis's call. And kind of I've got to let him, you know, run his own race kind of thing.

27:35I wouldn't be blowing away if Sean gave us some of that. But I think he's he can't take it back from him in week two or three or four if they're struggling. I think this is a year long thing because they saw Davis getting all these looks. And I think that whether this was said publicly or just thought like, hey, if he's going to go be the head coach of the Raiders, and we're going to see Davis Webb beat us for 10 straight years, Sean, we're never going to let you live it down. And you know, again, this is me reading between the lines. So I don't think he would have done this for anybody. I don't think he would have given it over to Joe Lombardi or Pete Carmichael as long time assistants who are no longer with the team. But I do think because of how unique Davis is and how they view him that Sean was comfortable doing this at this point in his career. And it might make him a better head coach because he's never really had the chance to during the game talk to the defensive coach a little bit more, talk to the special teams coordinators a little bit more, and not be thinking about what comes next or what he might be seeing out there that he can suggest. Hey, Davis, it looks like they're playing so and so a certain way or look with the room of that safety. We should probably look at this. I think you could make him potentially a better head coach.

28:35Brandon Chris, Brandon Kristall at BK Denver Sports. I'll learn more about Gorilla Sports via his ex site at BK Denver Sports. I want to backtrack for a second because you were kind of going on over the landscape of Denver Sports and Broncos country and nuggets and the Rockies will be bad again. But then you kind of flippantly said and the avalanche, you know, like are super good, just ask the wild or as the wild saw Sunday. You don't you don't for a second thing. The Minnesota wild can't beat the Colorado avalanche in a seven game series. Do you? Oh, I you think I don't think that they could. I think they definitely could, right? This is the NHL and you know, you got obviously, you know, guys like Matt Boldy and a really good team there. There's there's a reason that they're right in the mix with the with the stars and even, you know, certainly in it. You know, the avalanche can see the wild in their review. They can't, you know, necessarily see the other teams out less.

29:35The weather, you know, you're talking about the ducks and oil. But when you're talking about 87 points, yeah, absolutely could could beat the beat the abs in a seven game series and this convoluted playoff setup with NHL where it feels like the NFL stumbles into getting things right all the time. And the NHL gets in their own way on stuff all the time. And the fact that the abs in round two are going to play the stars of the wild. And if I'm not mistaken, don't the stars and wild won't they play in round one? Yes. Right. That's ridiculous. I know ridiculous. But those are the rules, man and men. So you got to follow them and do the best you can. The wild have two games left this year with the stars. And hopefully there's some tone setters now to basketball. Is this just not the nugget year or I mean, it's a very good team. They've gotten themselves healthy. Jamal Murray looks like he's playing on one leg, but he's playing. Aaron Gordon just came back. Joker's MVP guy. The minute the schedule comes out, you got Watson and Strother and Christian Brown and so on. But for some reason, they just can't seem to get traction.

30:38Is that fair? Well, you say that they've gotten healthy. When you say they've gotten healthy, it's been in the last couple of days. The four Aaron Gordon came back the other day. They don't only play 13 games with their penciled and starters, which is Murray. Now finally an all star in year 10 or whatever. But you was on that short list of best players and ever being all star. But Murray, Christian Brown, who missed a bunch of time, he's never missed time in his whole career. Going back to, you know, even as a kid in high school college, he never missed any time. And so that's been an adjustment. Aaron Gordon was hurt most of last year, including late in the playoffs. And was hurt most of this year. And then Cameron Johnson, who they traded, Michael Porter for. He's been hurt a bunch as well. And Joker missed a whole month, which is something we've never seen. Good point. So they haven't been truly healthy and they're still obviously kind of hanging around. They look good against the Lakers. Close them out. They don't look like garbage against the mix the next night. And they went and played OK, see tough again, but blew a 16 point lead. And this is the fifth time this year, which has never happened since Joker's been on the team, even when they weren't necessarily good yet, where they've blown five 16 point leads.

31:40And so it has people saying, well, did you move on from Michael Malone too fast? Was David Adam and just handled the job? I know the guy that those things are true. I think that the message is maybe gotten stale with coach Malone. I think David Adamin is a good coach and is going to become a better coach. Agreed. They're growing pains and then you know, Peyton Watson's missed now most of the year. So if they can put it all together, OK, I like their chances to make noise in the playoffs. The problem is they're currently a six seed. And if they goof around, they could drop into the plan. And just like we're talking about could the wild be the star or the abs or the stars? Absolutely. More easily. But in those playing games, yeah, as a six or seven or eight, you're going to get two shots at it. But then you're going against the number one or two team. So look, they're just a couple games away from, I mean, they're a game away from being the three seed also. And they're going to see the Rockets and Kevin Durant in town tonight and company. So they could jump to the three seed here in the next day or two. But the T-wolves are obviously right there. I think they might be done with the T-wolves after that game the other day, which is so weird.

32:40Because we're used to so many March and April games mattering in that series. And I think they maybe have one more left with the thunder. If not, they might be done with them too. So weird scheduling. But the nuggets, if they can get healthy and still a big if it's certainly big if with guys like Aaron Gordon, then they will be a very, very tough out just like we saw last year where they took the thunder seven game. How good is Bonix and how good can he be? How good is he now? Do you remember how good Derek Car was before he got hurt and they were going to the playoffs? I think that's about how good he is now. I mean, you know, the different kind of player. Like, okay, he is getting his team to the playoffs. And it would have been fun to see him in the AFC title game against the Patriots. It was obviously a ugly game and the weather made things almost unwatchable. And then who knows what would happen in the Super Bowl? Would they have won? I don't know. Would have been closer. I mean, the Broncos owe lines better. And the Broncos defense is better than the Patriots. So that doesn't mean they would have been the Super Bowl champs.

33:40I think that when you hear the comparisons to Drew Rees, they're not the same kind of player. But they do have that same kind of Super computer brain that Sean Peyton and quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators love so much and head coaches for that matter. And so he can make pretty much all the throws. He doesn't look like Josh Allen or Patrick my homes. But the ball gets there. He's had a couple passes in his first few years that have been near the top. If not, I think number one in air yards on the past to Marvin Minnes. The travel of the 67 air yards. I think either against the Bengals or the Browns last year. So he has a better on the people think he's faster than even the Broncos realize. And he processes things really quickly, you know, going back to that game where JK Dobbins got hurt. There was video or you caught it if you're watching my Amazon Prime of him yelling at Sean Peyton, get your FN personnel in here. Because he just wants things to go a little faster because he can get to line of scrimmage and diagnose things like so many great quarterbacks can do. So I think his ceiling is in that Drew Rees level of production in a Sean Peyton offense. And his floor right now is Derek Carr before the injury.

34:42And you look at Bo, he just had a baby a couple of weeks ago. And there was picture of him carrying his baby girl out of the hospital. No ankle brace on no cast, no walking boot. And he said that there was a pretty straightforward procedure with his broken ankle. So will he be in the same category? You know, Sean Peyton said in the next couple years, he gave me a top five quarterback. I'm not ready to go there. But it feels like even at the top with guys like Lamar and Josh Allen and even my homes. We're not putting qualifiers in Joe Burrow. Can they stay healthy? What's going on around them? And I don't know what it takes. You know, my homes, maybe isn't still in his own category. You have to win to get there. And San Donald just won a Super Bowl. But I don't think if I told you you could have San Donald next year or Bonex. I don't know how many people will excuse the Vikings and Sam was really good. But you say, okay, not just next year, but you get San Donald or Bonex going forward. You've called Vikings games forever. I know you like San Donald. Would you rather have San Donald for the next five years or Bonex? Bonex. What about you? Probably the consensus. He's probably in that second tier of like the Dak Prescott world in terms of how the league

35:47sees him. But nobody goes into a game against the Cowboys. I think, oh, Dak's going to be the reason the Cowboys lose. Can you throw underceptions? Can he be bad? Sure. But it, you know, it's that world of like boomer a science and Randall Cunningham. The every Sunday, you're like, well, this is the best guy. We, yeah, he's our guy. But, you know, Dante Colpepper when he was obviously playing really well in his heyday. You didn't want to necessarily trade. You weren't trading Dante Colpepper. Right. I'm in the hub when they were going toe to toe or anything. That's how that's how Bonex feels right now. You win a championship or two. And that's still again a team thing. That might change the way people look at him. And his numbers continue to be good. He's got more wins in the first two years of his career than anybody. I think all time or tied with Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson. Yes. And I get there's two more games, but still pretty impressive. All right. 90 seconds, you get it all. What's the ad BK Denver sports or gorilla sports take on what happened between the Ravens and Raiders and Max Crosby?

36:47I think that a couple of things happened. One of them is they realized they could get tray Hendrixen and keep their two first round picks. They realize the way the rules are set up. They can get a deal done. But until it's officially official, they don't have to do it. Max is 29. I mean, tray Hendrixen is what? He's got to be 30 or 31 if I'm not mistaken, but they can control that more easily. And I think that, you know, the Ravens, the older Ravens, never were going to make this move. Ozzy Newsom is still in the building. Eric DeCost obviously has come up under Ozzy and they still work really closely together. The unit files is just a consultant. And so I think that I guess I don't know if it was Max's knee, like his knee is not going to pass a physical right now, but it's the earliest part of March. It's March 11th. It'll pass a physical come September 10th or 11th when the season starts. And so I think they're 12 to 13th. I think that they just had some buyers remorse and realized Hendrixen was out there for about the same money, but they get to keep their first round picks, which is something

37:48they covet because the Ravens and PA, you've done this a long time. They draft better than anybody or they certainly have over the last 20 years. And so to give up two picks, I think was probably too much for them to swallow. And it might be that easy, but it's going to certainly, I think, give them a bit of a black eye with how the league's going to deal with them in the short term, perhaps. It's dirty. I mean, the whole thing's dirty, but yeah, we could chat about that some other time. Hey, great chatting with you, man. Let's do it more often. Safe travels. All right. I'm available. I'll see you soon, buddy. Thank you. Brandon Kristall at BK Dunvers Sports back to close the lately. My friends keep asking what I'm doing to my skin. Honestly, I didn't change my makeup. I changed my skincare. It's called Farmhouse Fresh. This award-winning, fresh-grown brand is a 14-year favorite of US spas and beauty magazines and celebrities agree. If you're over 40 and feel like nothing really makes a difference anymore, this does. My skin looks brighter, smoother, and yes, people notice. Get the Farmhouse Fresh Skincare Glow, go to farmhousefreshskincare.com. Dear McDonald's, your breakfast menu, fire, tens across the board.

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41:03This wrong was sticking with JJ McCarthy, worst case scenario. We get a top five pick next year, best case scenario. He brings us to the playoffs, and we know we got our guy for the next 10 years. Am I missing something here? Well, that's a terrific question. Now the worst case scenario, you're awful, super bad, and you get a top-by-pick. I mean, have a private conversation with Justin Jefferson about that. So it's just hanging to work. So clearly there are things with the, with the maturation and or development of JJ McCarthy that seems to be causing the team pause. So that's, it's, it's perplexing that's, that's the best way I can answer it right now, not being around there frequently. But you know, later today, when the first official day of the league year commences, well, that's when Kyler Kirk and whomever watch officially begins, not in noon, we'll, uh, we will, uh, we will opine with whatever happens or doesn't happen tomorrow from box

42:05in the box. This is Andy from South Minneapolis. Why do I just have the feeling that Kyler Murray is going to be a disaster? Maybe not Josh Freeman level disaster, but just a disaster. And I really wish that I'm wrong. I will eat my words happily if he leads us to the promised land, but it just doesn't feel right. I hear you. Yeah. I appreciate it's talk back, brother. Sons out. It's supposed to be. Come on. Yeah. That's, um, and that opinion has been formulated. There also are those who will see the dynamic nature of Kyler Murray's highlights on social media machines and they'll be like, yeah, don't just give one in one, give five in 100. Yeah. Three in 100. It's, it's Kyler for me, as I said earlier, always has been a tough figure. He's always been a tricky figure. You know, I, I've called several Vikings games against Arizona and Kyler Murray.

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