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3:04contest, kfn.com, keyword contest. Yeah, and if you win those tickets, you might get the chance to see the wild's first regulation victory against the Mammoth. I believe they're, it's just ridiculous how they can't solve that. Go back to Arizona as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, go back to AZ, joining me now as we kick off the second hour in order for PA, John Krasinski of the athletic, John Krasinski via X, joining me now covers a Minnesota Timber Wolves for the athletic.com. How you doing, Johnny? Feeling great, Nordo. How's it going for you, man? Really well, man. And it was a cool double feature last night, wild throttling the lightning, but prior to that, how about Anthony Edwards just saying, I'm, I'm tired of this. I hate the grids. I don't know who in the heck is on the roster at this point. I'm just going to dump 41 on them and call it a W. Yeah, it was something, you know, entirely predictable as well, like I, I was telling a couple of people, you know, kind of in the back hallways of target center before the game started. I'm like, well, they're, they're going to be either leading by a very small margin or

4:07trailing at halftime and then they're going to put their foot on the gas and figure it out. And that's what this team does. It's not always the most satisfying way to watch a game, but when you see Ant kind of ascend to and turn that I just turn the dial up to 11, like there's just no one more entertaining to watch and in the fourth quarter last night, I mean, he had that, that dial all the way up for, for much of that quarter and just kind of took the thing over and made sure they didn't lose and, and so you stack another W here anyway, you can get it. Yeah, indeed. And speaking of dialing up, how about dialing in Chris Finch joined PA yesterday to kick off the show? And he kind of mentioned that he sees the team dialing in that focus. Do you see that a bit? Well, I mean, I, I've seen a little bit more of it. I will say, I mean, certainly the winning Denver was encouraging and, you know, you're seeing Julius Randall start to show a little more activity and come around again. And I did ask Ant, after the game last night, and he said in his post game interview with

5:12Levy Olsen that, you know, this is the most fun that he's ever had on the court. And I asked him why? And he said that each feels like things are coming together right now, like this team is figuring things out, they're getting, they're, they're, they're putting it all together, they're getting their, you know, they're ducks in a row. And there are certainly stretches of games where you see that I'd like to see a little bit more consistency. I'd like to see, you know, kind of more wire to wire dominance. If you really believe that this is a team that can go deep in the playoffs and even come out of the last, but they have played better, I would say, over the last three to four games than they had prior to that. And so little by little, it does, there are signs that it's coming around. I think we still have to see a little bit more first of all. I want to jump into this kind of, I mean, it's team related, certainly, but, but just kind of, I, I really enjoy reading what you put out on the athletic. And I loved the story that you did about bones, Highland, I was about a day and a half

6:12ago. And, and what stood out to you, and, and that's part of the cool thing. I love what you guys get in terms of the leeway to expand on stories. And maybe I guess you can speak to a more kind of the freedom to, to really dive deep on some of these, but, but what stood out to you in that piece you put together on bones, Highland, just the, the perseverance, the man he's become, where he came from in Delaware and just everything that, that he has really endured and, and really triumphed over in route to the NBA with a, with a fat smile on his face. Yeah, no, I appreciate the shout out there, Lord, I do think that a quick advertisement for the athletic is like there, you know, nowadays, I think there is so much more emphasis put on kind of shorter stories, videos, and clips that people can digest quickly and get their information. And I get that. That's part of the media ecosystem that we live in and the involvement that, that, that, that fans want.

7:12But I do think that there's also a still a place for longer form more in depth storytelling. And, and I think that's our specialty at the athletic certainly mine. And Bone Thailand just has an incredible story, you know, he went, he was a very highly touted prospect in Wilmington, Delaware in a hard kind of area of, of Wilmington, as, you know, after his junior season, they were, he lived with, he lived with 12 of his relatives in a, in a home, in a two story home, and he was in his upper four bedroom when the house caught on fire, and he was trapped in his bedroom, had to climb out of his window and jump out of the second story window, and he fell down to the, the ground and tore the patellar tendon and his knee. It's a fire that also claimed the life of his grandmother and 11th month, 11 month old cousin. So just an incredible tragedy that also really just did kind of threaten his basketball career,

8:15like he was able to rehab and get back on the court, become a first round draft pick in Denver, had a really good early rookie season, then kind of maybe got a little bit to kind of high on his own supply and was really kind of trying to push for a bigger role and alienated himself from that group and ended up kind of getting traded to the clippers and two years go by and he doesn't really play a whole lot and then Tim Connelly, the guy that he draft, didn't in Denver, brings him to the Timberwolves on a two way contract just to kind of keep him around the league and he really kind of got a dose of humility through that and kind of looked at what he did wrong in Denver, used sort of the tragedy that he had overcome as fuel for kind of pushing him forward and he's been a really big influence on this Timberwolves team now. He is a super positive guy, guys really love being around. He brings an electricity to the court when he's in the game and now he's a key part of

9:20their bench and so it's just kind of one of those kind of rags to riches stories that I really enjoy telling and bones deserves all the credit for doing everything that it took to get him to this spot and learn lessons and stay tough and persevere and now here he is a part of a contending team and a big part of one as well. Yeah, again, I encourage everyone to go and find John's story if you haven't already, the athletic.com and take a read and learn about bones and that incredible story that you mentioned, John, and with that, before we get back to the here and now, you know, you've been around this team in this league for a long time and you've seen the enigmatic personalities, the big personalities, good, bad, and ugly of all of it in the NBA. One thing that does kind of impress me about Tim Connelly, it's about winning games, two straight Western conference finals, appearances, but the player mix, the human element of it. I think they've, this team's done a pretty good job, culture wise of finding those types

10:20of guys to bring into this team and bones is a great example of that. Yeah, I was, you know, I was talking to one of the Memphis writers last night, beautiful for the game and just we were kind of talking about both of our teams and how, what it's like, covering the wolves and this is absolutely legitimate, Nordo, like, it's a great walker room. There is not a jerk in there and that's not a common thing in any professional sport, you know, let alone the NBA, but it's a bunch of really good guys. You know, they're not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but they are, you know, Ant, Jaden, Nas, Rudy, Kyle, Dante, like, all these guys, bones, Julius, all of them are, you, good-hearted dudes that, you know, sometimes they can be a little moody, sometimes, you know, you wonder, like, are they, are they fully on board, are fully locked into the game

11:22plans and things like that, but as people, they're generally, you know, good to be around. I think they get along fairly well, they, they talk to each other, they treat people, you know, with respect and that makes it easier as a reporter to go into that locker room and get good answers and informative kind of feedback from the players and trying to, you know, tell what's going right and what's going wrong and there's not, not one guy that I go in there and I dread having to talk to and having to ask questions with, they're all, like, really engaging and, and that's very much appreciated and I do think that's part of Kim Connelly's sort of evaluation process. He wants to have good guys in that locker room. He does not want to have jerks that kind of bring the, bring people down and really add a lot of pressure and toxicity to the environment and the, some of the guys that maybe were in that category when he first came in, they're gone now. And I think that was a concerted effort on Kim's

12:24part to, to make that happen and, and I think it, you know, the good thing for him is it's paying off with wins on the court as well. How about, how about slow, slow mo back with it? What do you think Kyle rejoining the mix? Yeah, I think it's really good, Nordo. I mean, you know, it was funny last night. He didn't take a shot with a kind of a minus five in, like, 14 minutes. So he wasn't like incredibly impactful from a stat producing standpoint. But when you think about getting by out guys, I know a lot of times around this time of year, when team signed by out guys, there's just this real celebration of, oh my gosh, the thunder got this guy or the wolf got this guy or the self, it's got this guy. And man, that's going to just make a huge difference in their championship odds. And most of the time, that, you know, is overstated. And the guy comes in and like, you might play a little bit here and there and, and that's it. But I really do think that Kyle Anderson has a chance to be

13:25very helpful to this group. They need more ballhandlers and he can do that. They need more defensive versatility in the front court when Rudy Gobert is out and he can do that. They need a guy in the locker room who is kind of a, a truth teller who is a, you know, a guy that people respect who can kind of call people out when things aren't going well and Kyle can do that. And so, I mean, I don't think he's going to be a 25-minute-a-night guy, but I do think that he gives Chris Finch a player that he trusts to put in in different situations in a way that he feels more comfortable with than, you know, say a young enough player like Karen Shannon Jr., and it would be great to get some of the rookies and second-year guys a little more run, but they're trying to win a championship right now. And so, I think that, you know, the more trusted veteran guys that they have out there, I think the better it will be for what they want to accomplish in the immediate future here. And Kyle Anderson has

14:29been welcomed back with open arms. And so, that's, it's a pretty cool thing that he's back in the mix here. Since you brought him up a tough year for Terrence, right? Terrence Shannon Jr. from, from an injury and just even early on you're thinking, what he can do post Nikhil Alexander Walker leaving and steps in and it just, it's not clicking. He gets hurt. Now he's back and he's kind of, he's in that DNP status. What's up? What is the path forward for him? And you mentioned this team trying to win a title. And so, maybe this season it's going to be some sparing usage down the stretch, but what is the path forward for him? Yeah, I still think he has a possibility of a future certainly with this team, Nordow. I mean, he is a big strong kid that can get up and down the court. I think that one thing that we have seen so far this year, he had a ton of expectations coming into the season. He had a really good summer, played really well in summer league. But I think one thing that he

15:32kind of found out as he made more of a name for himself is that when, you know, when teams are scouting you, when teams are actually looking at what you do well and what you do poorly and and how to attack you, it requires the player to make adjustments off of that. And I think that you know, early on and a lot of last season, Shannon came in and nobody knew what he brought to the table. And so he just used his speed and his power to kind of overwhelm teams sometimes. Well, now they know that he doesn't have much of a right hand. They know that there's a few other things that this is that he has in his game. And so it's on him to sort of adjust to that and keep working and tailor his game to how opponents are playing him. And you know, he also, the injury is a big part of things here. The foot has not been good for most of the season. And that has limited his explosiveness, especially on defense as a ability to change direction.

16:36So whether or not he contributes a lot more this year, I think having another summer to work on his game, he's an incredibly hard worker. I think you still have a chance to be a rotation player, but it's just maybe not coming as quickly as people would have hoped. That's John Krasinski. Johnny K. Johnny Athletic V Athletic.com follow him on X at J-O-N-K-R-A-W-C-Z-Y-N-S-K-I. Time for a few more here. Chris Finch joined yesterday with PA. I mentioned that. And along with talking about just what they're seeing moving forward, he did mention a little bit about the dynamic and the relationship between himself and Anthony Edwards. Now you and anybody within 10 feet of the Timberwolves from a reporting standpoint, all of you have reported in depth about just, you know, it looks loud. It looks ugly. It looks volatile. It looks contentious. But here's what it is behind the scenes. And Finch kind of, he talked about that and just competitive personalities and they both want to win. They have an immense amount of respect and appreciation

17:40for each other. Does that, is there any part of that that does lead potentially to, I mean, does it speak to, where am I going with this? Does it speak to the emotion and potential inconsistency of this team, however? Yeah, I mean, like, I do think that they are to ultra-competitive guys, to emotional guys and very prideful guys. And so the way that those types of people communicate with each other, especially in high pressure moment, can sometimes be more volatile. It can sometimes be a little more in your face. And, you know, the sort of the banker out there, the mechanic out there, the journalist out there, you know, other people out there who watch this and see it on TV or in the arena and watch, you look at it and say, man, that must be a terrible situation because in my workplace, that would be a fly. And that would

18:44be kind of indicative of really big problems. But in this arena, it literally, it is sometimes how guys communicate. And the important part or subtext about that is the personalities of both of them are such that they can yell and be yelled at and then move on quickly. Like, there are people, there are certainly players and coaches and there's other people that can be more sensitive to that. And so those interactions can linger and can fester and can really turn into big-time problems. But with Anton Finch, they have just shown time and again over the course of their relationship that they can have this agreement. They can have even forceful interactions. And then they move past it very, very quickly. They forget about it. They don't hold grudges. They usually one will apologize to the other or one will go and clear the air with the other and then they move on.

19:46So I think that that's all so far, been very healthy. We will see, though, Nordeau, honestly, how this goes into the playoffs because they will be entering these playoffs with more pressure on them than ever before. And how do both of those guys, the star and the coach, handle that? How does that trickle down to the rest of the team in times of adversity? We will see. But as of right now, I don't have a concern really that they're reaching some sort of breaking point that there is some sort of schism to use an old Viking term around here. So I just think that they are two guys with a lot of juice and when the lights are bright and the temperatures hot, they can bark at each other, but neither one of them takes it personally. And they just, they just keep moving forward. And that's been very productive and successful for them to this point. Last thing for you, I just want a more simple note with more games under the

20:50belt of Iodasumo. What do you see him impacting? What's different or potentially even better with Iodasumo in the mix? Yeah, he's definitely over the last couple of games, Nordo looked more comfortable with where he fit on both ends of the floor. We were talking to him last night and he said he's still trying to figure things out and he's still a long ways away from where he wants to be. But certainly early on in the very first few games after coming over in the trade, you can see that he was tentative, that he didn't exactly know how to play with his teammates on either side of the floor. And so then you were seeing some pretty like arguably plus or minus numbers. He was minus 33. I think in one of the games, minus 25 and another. And so you're just like, what's what's kind of going on here? But, it's not too in particular. He looks much more like the Iodasumo that you saw in Chicago, decisive, getting down hill, getting to the basket, getting out in transition, being a little more

21:51disruptive defensively. And I think that's all about learning his teammates, learning the system a little bit more. He is a smart guy. He's really athletic. He is big and strong. And he's a great fit for them. I think it just is going to take time for everyone to just get familiar with each other. And every game that goes on, he looks more comfortable. He looks like he needs to what they have focused on with him is to not differ as much. And it's very, you know, kind of natural for a newcomer to try to come in and be polite, especially with bigger stars like Ant and Julius. And those guys are more established players. I'm going to just defer to them. I'm going to give get them all to them and let them go to work. I don't want to step on toes, but they want Iodas step on toes. They want him to be aggressive. They want him to look for his own shot. And the more aggressive and assertive he becomes, I think the more dangerous the team becomes as a whole. And I think we're getting closer to that point with him. He's starting to look really good.

22:52I dig that. And I dig your work. And I appreciate you giving me time this morning. My friend have an awesome week and we'll catch up again soon. All right. Thanks. Don't talk to you soon, man. Thank you. That's John Krasinski of the athletic the athletic dot com at John Krasinski via X. And because I practice this in the mirror each day before, before I go to work, it is at J.O.N. K.R.A.W. C.Z.Y. NS K.I. And it's been, as I mentioned with John, it's been reported on so so deeply because it is jarring. And I like the way that that Krasinski, you know, he that Johnny took it the way or the direction that he did in relation to, you know, here's what it is now. Here's what we know. And you have these, these massive personalities that that can collide when things get hot. Now we need to see, of course, with more pressure on them, really than at any point during Finches tenure here and in Anthony's career with two stray Western conference

23:56finals appearances, you know, what this thing's going to look like moving forward when things get hot and the games count in a playoff series. I just, I just kind of clicked in my head and it's been a kind of, you know, the inconsistency piece with this team. And I just think about that volatility word as it, as it sits in moments where you're watching that take place from your coach and your star player. I just wonder how that trickled down effect is in terms of how it could potentially the emotional nature of this game lead maybe to some of the inconsistencies in certain aspects and on certain nights as part of that with with Finchy and Ann. But but for now, it's working. They've won four straight and it's got to be third spot or bust. Still, I think it's one more win, one more loss. Maybe then the Houston Rockets Houston one, I think last night. So you're still chasing that third again. I think it spurs in an OKC in the top two. And that's already been decided with so few games remaining, but an opportunity to jump into the three spot the way they match up.

24:58I think they actually went be in all things included. If there was a postseason series, I like how the wolves match up against those spurs, but there's still time. I mean, as muddy as the west is, that's the frustrating thing. The bottoms kind of fallen out on the Western conference, but you're still six deep in terms of trying to figure out what is this team. What can they be? How far can they go? And we're just so close to the postseason. I want to start breaking down those probable matchups, but everything's so freaking subject to change on a night by night basis. But thanks is always John Krasinski. And again, I'm not getting paid by the athletic here. Read that piece on bones. It's an awesome piece of work that that Johnny did. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to pause. And when we return next segment, head coach of the Minnesota Wild John Hines, I'm expected to chat with John after the five one win, a couple days to chill before they had to Vegas and face the golden nights on Friday night back to wild hockey before we hear from the TV box, Anthony Lapanta at 11. That's not that's the timber tech set list.

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29:28That was indeed. We heard it from Alex Daylock, a terrific call by Joe Donnell there. Part of the 5-1 victory last night while beating the Tampa Bay Lightning at Grand Casino Arena, a little record-setting moment there. Well, let's talk to the guy that was front row center for that. John Hines, head coach of the Minnesota Wild, joining nine to noon. How are you doing, John? I'm great, Nordar. How are you doing there? I'm doing well and always appreciate your time. Congratulations on the victory and certainly a fun moment for Carole Caprizoff last night with his notching his 220th goal in a wild sweater and setting a new franchise record. Yeah, thanks. It was obviously good when I thought the guys really played well. I think we gathered ourselves after the last couple of games against St. Louis and Utah, so it was nice to see the style of game that we played and the guys get back

30:31to what the game that gives us the best chance to win night and night out. As far as Carole goals, it's a tremendous accomplishment, obviously, to pass the board for the all-time goals. Really, such a short amount of time in his young NHL career. He's a pleasure to coach. He's a pleasure to watch and was just really happy for him that he had some looks earlier in the game. He won up with the empty netter, but he had about two empty netters that he could add earlier too, so I'm happy for him. It's a great accomplishment. It is indeed, and he did have a few chances. I almost imagined in the dressing room after the game, they're like, hey, congratulations on the record, but I mean, it was just an empty netter. It's almost like they had to give it to you. He couldn't buy one earlier in the game. He had some great chances last night, John. Yeah, he certainly deserved it, though. You know, I think he looked at I've been very impressive and given since he's come out of the break. He looks, just laser focused. He's got great jump to his game. He's highly competitive, so that's a really good sign for Carole, but also our team that he's come back from the break and he's

31:33dialed in. Yeah, and you mentioned the team gathering, gathering yourselves after a couple losses in a row there. I know Kuturoff does get through in the second period last night, but what was really working for you guys in limiting dangerous chances overall for him in the visitors? You know, I think we did a, you know, I felt like when we come back from the break, the Colorado game was pretty good with a highly competitive game. You know, the Utah game just wasn't indicative of how we want to play, whether that's from competitive standpoint, structure, whatever it is. Some days you're going to have some nights like that over the course 82 games. You know, I thought the St. Louis game, we were okay. I think we had a chance to win the game, but it wasn't really the identity we wanted to play with. So we got back to I think much, much more. We played a faster game. We moved box North. I thought our checking structure up the ice in the offensive zone in the neutral zone. We were much more on our toes and we didn't give, we didn't give the easy ice and easy looks. We made them earn if they were going to get chance that they had to earn them. And that was the focal point going into the game and the guys

32:37did a heck of a job executing. I mentioned this earlier in the show chat and hockey with Alex Staylock, he was doing analysis on the radio broadcast last night and just kind of thinking about Brock Faber, John. I do typically think of him defense first in terms of Brock's game and what he brings to this team at a super high level. But then I watch that goal last night and you're like, wait a minute, hold on. He's got 14 this year. You just the evolution of his game. Maybe it's playing with Hughes, but in his own right, the ability to evolve and get better. Just Brock Faber continues to amaze me night after night. Yeah, I think when Faber first came in, I think that was kind of a little bit of what a chick was when he was coming up to college and things like that was he was a great skating, hard to play against. I don't want to see defense first, but more of a defensive defenseman. But I think when you look at his skating ability,

33:37he does have good puck skills. He's a high elite competitor and what I found with him just coaching was he's always looking for ways to get better. And then he turns pro and based on opportunity and some things that happen with our team, he got some opportunities on the power play which was new to him. And then I think he found some footing there and he just continues to evolve his game. Even last year or the other exit meeting last year, he's like, hey, what do you think I need to get better at? What do I need to work on? And in the summertime, you can't work on necessarily defense, but you can work on your body and conditioning, but also your puck skills. And he's the highly talented player that's always looking to improve. So it's nice to see his game evolving on both sides of the puck. What do you look for, John, as the head coach, when you see a guy like Robbie Faber, he getting his first shifts with the team as he did last night. What are you looking for when someone debuts and just kind of trying to work his way into the system? Really exactly what Robbie did last night. I thought he came out, he played with energy,

34:38he was competitive. He had a couple hits early. I think he had a couple scoring chances. So it was nice to see him come in and kind of show us a little bit of what he can bring on this team. And it's a small sample size, but I think being picked up on waivers and coming in meeting a new team and playing the way they play last night, it certainly was encouraging for us to see that. And I think he felt good about his game as well. And now we want to continue to build on that. You know, similarly, but Diffrey hadn't seen Jonas Brodyne on the ice for a while. And you know, as an outsider, it just felt, you know, I'm just kind of like, okay, when, when are we going to get to see Jonas again? We get the Olympic pause and all of that. He comes back. I thought he looked pretty good coach. What did you see? I would agree with you. I think he looked really good. I mean, he was conditioning look good, skating skating was on point. I thought he moved the puck well. You know, he's always a difficult player against from a defensive standpoint, but I like to speed conditioning puck movement. You

35:41know, those things were we're we're on pyro last night for him. So it was great to have him back and laugh. No, absolutely. And I saw the announced me yesterday. Michael McCarran is joining the squad and a move with the predators. You coached McCarran and Nashville. If if I'm correct on that, what do we know about Michael McCarran? And how excited are we to see him come to St. Paul? Yeah, you know, I think first and foremost, he's a great he's a great kid. You know, he's got a lot of character. He's, you know, he's got wife and some kids. He's going to come in. So I think when you add a player into your team, it's not just a player. It's the person and the people that he brings with him. He's got a great family, great background. So the person entering our team and locker room and organization is is is what you want. And then, you know, from a hockey standpoint, you know, he's a big strong player. He can play center and wing right shot. Very good face off guy. He helps on the family kill, brings some physicality. You know, I think

36:41he's a multi-dimensional player. And you know, I think he's going to bring a you bring some some energy on and off the ice, you know, into your team. So we're excited to have him. I think that he's going to fit in well with our group and how we want to play. But, you know, I think when you put the team together and looking towards, you know, the end of the season here and into the playoffs, is you have to have guys that I think can fill roles. And there's little things that make a huge difference in games and in a playoffs series. You know, as we all know, face off is important. Physicality is important, penalty killing is important. You know, having lines and and and identity lines are really important. So, you know, I think he's going to add some some strong elements to our group. Yeah, strong elements for sure. Six six 230 pounds is what he was listed at. And watch out. Anytime you join me, John, and I always appreciate it. I always have the dumbest question you're going to get all day. And here it is. Michael McCarran, 66230. When you're that big, and I remember watching the Olympics, Tage Thompson, he's 66, just a giant out there, right?

37:43And what are traits when you're a player that size, what is the challenge in terms of trying to keep up with those five 10 5 11 speedsters when you're 66 and 230 like Mr. McCarran has? Yeah, you know, I think it comes down to a couple of things. One is those big guys, you know, if they're in good shape and they're and they got some power to them, you know, the younger guys could be quicker, but, you know, the big guys, they they have a lot of reach. They can take up a lot of space if they're willing skaters, like ages and like Michael are that because I think their size and reach, both of those players are big players, but they're both pretty smart. So I think the anticipation, the anticipation skills help as well. And and then the other thing too is you know, there's also advantages to being that big. Like I said, you have a long wingspan, long reach, good stick detail, heavy on the puck. You can carry a lot of ground, you know, when there needs to be physicality, you know, you're you're usually on the on the top side of that. So you know,

38:45I think it's like every player, whether you're small or whether you're big, it's it's do you use your assets to a high level. And we feel with a guy like McCarran, some of the things that he brings to our team, the intangible things and the details of the game, you know, are important and are going to make us better. That's John Hines head coach of the Minnesota wild. Last thing for you is simply enough, it's Friday night and Vegas, you know, just kind of a whirlwind coming back from the pause with the back to back. Not a lot of time to just take a breath. You kind of get an extra day here before you go to Vegas. Would you consider that to be a much needed breath or just a good opportunity to kind of reset things with with a with a great schedule in front of you? Yeah, I think so. You know, we came back from, you know, we had a really good run prior to the prior to the break and then, you know, everyone's going their different ways and some of the some guys, the Olympics, some guys are off. Then when we come back, we had so many guys at the Olympics that were practiced with a small group. And then, you know, we come right back and go on the road

39:46and play a good game, play the bad game, played an average game. We had a day off. So we had a really productive morning yesterday, just resetting our minds and what we need to do. I thought we played a really good game last night. Guys get a breather again today. And, you know, I'm excited. We get a good practice tomorrow before we leave. And then we got two big games, right? We got Vegas and Colorado on the weekend and a and a practice to start it off tomorrow. So I think it's a good reset and just keep moving forward and getting better and building our team game and build our individual game here down the stretch. That's awesome. And thanks as always again for joining us nine to new and have a terrific weekend with Vegas and Colorado on the horizon. And I hope we get the chance to chat next week. All right. Thanks, Donald. Take care, man. Always a pleasure. Thank you. That's John Hines head coach in the Minnesota while they do get to take a breath today. And again, next up a Friday night affair, hitting that text line for fallness and Alex stay locked and hopefully getting two points out in Vegas with those golden nights. Some news around the corner. I do want to kind of hijack a bit of it. Jump back. I'm sure Brett's got some

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44:05Turn them in on 45 TV, right? I believe so. Okay. And you can also hear coverage of it starting tomorrow on KFA on plus 96-7. And also right here on the same. Zach Alverson on the call. That's correct. Yeah, the reason I'm asking is I get it at high school hockey so maybe they don't put together like an hour-long pregame or something. But I've had this thing. It's like the Kelly Clarkson show. And like pink and Nev Campbell on there a bit ago while I was talking to Heinzi. And now I think that's Kelly. I don't know. I haven't seen Kelly Clarkson in years. But I just feel like I'm being like there's a ruse. Like I just need this to become hockey. And I guess I got to wait nine more minutes. But yeah, I couldn't. I just maybe next year we do a pregame. I don't know. But anyway, Kelly Clarkson show on my TV year in the studio. News of the North brought to you by Vecacino, a Canterbury Park Canterbury Park.com. Feeling the felt all your long live racing and play in the spring. And tons of shows, tons of things to bring the whole family.

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46:09The Vikings need to consider another route that starts with a B as in bottoming out. Putting Grenard on the trading block is the correct call. That's what Robert thinks. All right, I get it. I get it. I know it sounds weird. I will say this. I got a text message. Why are we considering Gino Smith? Seattle dumped him to sign Sam Darnold. So we take their garbage. Actually, they moved on from Gino Smith because he wanted 40 million dollars a year. The Seahawks were going to resign him. They were efforting in new contract. He wanted too much money. So then they did move on. Absolutely. And then he was hideous in Las Vegas. I get it. I get it. This isn't necessarily what I wanted to happen. I wanted number nine or 10th overall pick to be a star and a budding superstar. And it's not happening. So yes, we're talking about Kyler and Gino Smith. Kill in the messenger. Nordo has lost his everloven mind. That's Steven Casey. Hey, why don't we see if Ponder wants to make a comeback? So now, yes, I'm getting it. I get it.

47:10I get it. I'm with you. I'm just a Vikings loving Rube. This is all very weird. I just want the team to be good again. Where we at it? Next. Well, so according to CBS Sports Jonathan Jones, a Kyler will most likely sign for a vet minimum. That's 1.3 million when he becomes a free agent. That would help with the cap situation where you're having to gut a lot of people, including our grave Aaron Jones. Maybe that's maybe that's true. I still I don't know. I don't buy it. He's going to be released on Wednesday when the league year starts. And if he's signing for the league minimum, you will have probably three or four different suitors. There's got to be a handful of teams that would say, Kyler, that talent, yeah, injury issues and all of that. But 1.3 million sign me up. So I still think, I mean, you're probably seeing seven, eight, nine, 10 million dollars for a one year deal. I don't know. I could be out of I could have lost my ever love in mind

48:10per Steve and Casey. I just don't it's not going to be a ton of cash, but I think it'll be more than a vet minimum. We'll see. But on that note, Grinards is going to be one of those cap casualties. Most likely, it looks like they're willing to move him in one way or the other. Your thoughts? Well, there's not there's not enough time because I want to get to Anthony LaPante here. But it does bear in mind and Pia is going to be back by the way. The host and I in the new returning tomorrow. And I'm certain of this that we'll discuss this more. And the text that I sent him yesterday is think Dallas Turner is ready. Like the idea think Dallas Turner is ready. And the reason I bring that up is if you trade Grinard and I've heard all kinds of ideas that have kind of spawned from that day to pick XYZ potential player who knows where that goes or are you packaging to move up in the draft. There are certainly options that the Vikings would have. But perche after the Vikings would like to keep Grinard

49:13but they also have salary cap issues. Okay, so we know that. Grinard wants to raise. He wants a little market correction on what he's doing for the purple. I still think they figure out a way to keep them. And with Dallas Turner, I'm really split on it. Certainly better in 2025. The idea that simply because he was a first round pick in its year three that we have to start him. That makes zero sense to me. Either he's worthy of a starting spot or he's not. He was splash year in 2025. That came with the reps in the opportunity. 700 snaps and change versus 300 is rookie year. So he's on the field more. He made some plays. Part of that sack number covered sacks. I didn't think he I still don't think he's twitchy or fast enough or savvy enough to consistently beat tackles off the line. That's just one man's opinion. But again, he was much better in year two. I'm not writing off Dallas Turner. And I hate how these conversations have to be. It's either Grinard starts because Turner is awful or Turner has to start because he's amazing.

50:13The truth's line in the middle from my standpoint here. And I'm not against him getting the opportunity. That the thing that I would be against though is if you're rolling into 2026 or rolling into the draft. And it's it's Turner and Andrew Van Ginkle as your as your book ending. Excuse me, book ending past rushers. The thing for me, you know, and I'm not in charge of the money. I'm not in charge of making decisions and making moves. The thing that would make more sense to me is you find a way to get Grinard happy and whatever that market correction and money looks like. And maybe you move Andrew Van Ginkle if you were going to move. Somebody missed five games last year. He's got the neck thing. And I love, I love, I love Van Ginkle. Van Ginkle style. But it's the last year of his deal coming up. He's older about to turn 31. He did miss that time. Now Grinard missed time last year with the shoulder too. So I get all of that, but I just

51:15I'm not sold on Turner being the answer and the true one for one replacement there. But he still has a right to grow. Still very young and all of that. 25 was a significant growth in comparison to his rookie season. He did make plays. He was splashy at times. I don't want to lose Jonathan Grinard. And I don't think the team wants to lose him either. So right now if I had to bet, I would bet on the team finding a way to make it work with Grinard so that he stays here. Again, one man's opinion. But that's where we're at on that. Oh, Mr. LePantis here. Wild throttled the lightning last night. Yes. Wolves handled Grizzlies thanks to 41 from Ant. And that's about news to Nord, right? Yeah, that's about it. Party on thank you Brett. Brett Blake Moore leading news to Nord brought to you by the casino at Canterbury Park Canterbury Park dot com. A hockey heavy, heavy presentation will continue to be such. I got eventually wants to Kelly Clarkson show finally ends.

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