9-11-26 Willie with Mike Codella

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3:18And the people in New York elected him, how that was possible from the same electorate in 10-01 to me who elected people like Rudolph Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg is almost impossible to consider. One man that has perspective on NYPD is Mike Cadella. He has a new book out the evil that walked New York. He was born in Brooklyn, and the officer Mike Cadella spent about 20 years as a cop in New York City. He began as a patrolman, made his way up to Detective Sergeant, and he served in some of the most elite in high stakes union in New York City. And Mike Cadella welcomed, I think, for the first time in the Bill Cunningham show. And first of all, Mike, why in 1983 in July, did you become, why did you elect some 40 years ago to become a police officer? Hey Bill, first of all, thanks for having me on the show, I appreciate it. You know what, to be honest, I was running around, I was a little wild as a kid, and I had found myself actually with nothing going on to be quite frank with you.

4:20And I decided to take the test, I took the test, I did okay, I got called, and once I got called to be a cop, I kind of made my business to be a good cop, like a hardworking cop. And really, that's, I didn't have any, any desire as a young guy to be more enforcement, it's just something that I took the test, and again, once I came on, I said I really wanted to work on him to be a good cop. Many people do whatever profession or your inner a blue collar job, which I think is fabulous, you simply take one step at a time, not much is going on, many say I'm going to join the military, whatever happens. And in a sense, you said, well, I'll take the test, and if I, if I pass in and get called, I will, and if not, I'll do something else. Can you compare and contrast NYPD in July and August when you got your badge toward the end of 1983, compare that NYPD to the NYPD of today? You know, when I came on, and in the subsequent years in the 80s and 90s, it was a high crime, and it wasn't, New York was a tough and, and wild place, but the difference was the people, the good people of New York, back to the police.

5:33They, they looked at, they looked at the police as being their friends, and even the criminals who were doing bad things, they respected the police as far as, for the most part, now talk, not fighting with the cops when they got arrested. Not running from the cops for the most part. Today, it seems like the people that are law abiding individuals, they don't view the cops as their friends, they view the cops as, now, as their enemies. Even though they may not be criminals themselves, they side with the criminals in these instances that happen every day in New York, and, and, and the criminals are sort the cops, which you don't hear about on the news, on a regular basis. I mean, every day in New York City, two or three cops are going to the hospital because they were assaulted by criminals. And how do the judges in New York City now handle assaults on police officers? I would imagine 20, 30 years ago, if you beat up an NYPD cop in uniform, you had a problem.

6:37What happens to today? You know, today they implemented that no bail law, so if you get, if you do get arrested, you don't get, they don't set a bail for you. And they basically let you out. And the criminals know this. Every criminal knows this. They take a crime, whether it's being a cop, hitting a cop, or really being a cop down, or committing a robbery. They know when they go before the judge, the judge is going to say, no bail necessary, and you're out. You know, come back to court in eight months, and whether they come back to court or not is up for grabs. Most of the time they, they don't, they just take it as a get out of jail free pass. And so that's why they have no, they have no restrictions on beating up cops or committing crimes, basically. Yeah, and, and after all, there might be a one or a warrant. There might be a flight put on someone's record, pick them up. That doesn't happen either. Let's talk about nine 10, oh one, the day before 9 11, then we're talking about 9 11 itself. You were a first responder on that day. And nine 10 was a Monday. It was a beautiful day in New York City.

7:42Things are relatively calm. And then in about 845 AM, the morning 9 11, the world changed. Where were you when the first terrorist plane hit the tower? Where, where was at that point? My Cadilla. So that morning, I was actually home getting ready for work. My office was actually in seven world traits, which was maybe a hundred yards from the buildings I got here. But when the first plane hit the world traits, and I was home, I saw it on, you know, I saw the plane in the building on TV. And I believe like most people that it was just a pilot that was off course. There was no indication that it was terrorism. I got my car. I drove to work or began to drive to work and I hit incredible traffic in the Brooklyn battery tunnel. Basically, I was stuck in the tunnel. At some point, I hear on the radio that another plane hit. And that's when again, like most people, I realized that we were under attack. I tried to get out of the tunnel. I put my light on, because I had a government vehicle on the cover, government vehicle.

8:46And the traffic was so tight and at such a state, so nobody moved from me. And then at some point, the FDNY fire truck came blaring down and has been as loud as that truck is. People got out of this way. And I just jumped right behind that FDNY truck, made my way out of the tunnel. Once out of the tunnel, again, bumper to bumper traffic worse than in the tunnel. I just pulled the car over, parked at some fire hydrant and ran towards the building. I did myself, because the other time I got there, everything was got it off of the cops. I did myself, because I was again in soft clothes, civilian clothes. I did myself. I went in, went into the South Tower to try to help people come out of the building. I went up a flight of steps and there was already a tremendous flow of people running out. I was actually hindering the people running out. So I found another staircase to go up my intention was to go up and help people who could have made it down.

9:46And at some point, the building began to shake. I thought the earthquake had hit. That's what it felt like. I never expected the building to be coming down. I started to run out and that's when the building basically came down. I'm well, I was in it. How far did you get away from the building when it collapsed? Were you 50 feet, 100 yards? How close were you to being murdered? Well, I was actually in the building when it came down. So at some point, the building, you know, you got contactables a little hard for me because of, you know, just the circumstance. I was in the building. I turned to run out. I started to run out and the building just, everything just turned dark. Loud that one loud crash. I guess it was the building coming down and it just the building, the force just threw me. So I was actually thrown from the building. Anyway, I guess from 15 to 20, 25 feet away from the building and I ended up on the ground covered with the debris of the building.

10:54Did you have any apprehension at the time? I've heard this question asked and not answered other than we had no idea. Did anyone think, well, as you rushed into the South Tower, there was going to be a pancake that both towers were, was that even in the back of your mind? No, honestly, my concern was more of the fire. You know, the building and the heat that was fire coming out of the building when I went in. And my concern was going up, trying to get people out. I would encounter. You know, fire and people. That was my concern. I, you know, 100 years, I would have never expected the building to come down on my head. When you came, when you came, were you a little bit unconscious 15 feet, were you filled with dirt and debris? And, and did you apprehend what had happened at that point? Well, to be honest, I'm not sure if I was ever knocked on conscience. I found myself at some point, like I said, 15, 20 feet away on my back, totally covered with the debris that came down from the building.

11:59There was complete silence because the air at that point was so thick that there was no screaming. There was no sirens. I mean, they might have been going off and they might have been people screaming, but it couldn't be heard. So, and it was complete darkness. I tell everyone, it's, if you close your eyes and I read a dark room, this darkness was 10 times darker than that. But at some point, somebody actually showed a detective from the Austin Squad who kept this equipment in his vehicle, showing a light up in the sky. I was on the ground sometime at this point and he said, if you can see the light, try to walk the light. And I did. I was able to get up. Again, I was covered with all that stuff and the white sort and stuff. And I walked toward the light and he just swoop me up and took me into another building to this, to this day. I don't know where he took me, but he took me to another building. Mike Cadilla, did you have an apprehension you might have been dead? If I'm in complete darkness and terrible events taking place and I see a light, I'm thinking of Jesus Christ. I'm thinking I'm dead. Did you have that apprehension?

13:09Well, I tell you, at that point, I didn't think it was, at that point, anything I was dead. But at some point, my life honestly did pass before my eyes. I know people talk about it. I don't know if they experience what I experienced, but you're up, you're, your eyes, or I should say, my life did pass before my eyes. And, you know, it does happen or it did happen to me at least. How many fellow officers or first responders, friends of yours were murdered that day? Well, you know, I know a few actually not only law enforcement, but actually guys, I knew growing up, we worked in the building in a cantifid channel and some other buildings and some other companies. And I know them from not being a cop. I know them from years earlier and they lost their lives in that building in those buildings. So as you walked toward the light on 9-11, you're walking toward the light. What happened next?

14:12Well, at some point I got up, I got up, I was able to get up and I was stumbling towards where the light was shining and the detective really scooped me up, just grabbed me and washed me into a building. Again, I don't know where I was. I went into another building and I'll tell you what probably saved my life in the long run from getting sick. Like a lot of these guys are getting sick from cancer. There was actually a gentleman in the lobby or in the building throwing up, really heaving and throwing up. And that normally wouldn't affect me, but this particular day looking at that and all this stuff I hadn't adjusted made me throw up. And the stuff that came out of me was this black, really horrible stuff that I had swallowed and ingested. And I got it all up by throwing up and I'm sure that that's probably why to this day I don't have any of the sicknesses always a little poor guys out.

15:12Mike Kadel, can you reflect upon the next few hours as an NYPD officer who was by split second not murdered and you're in the dark. You're filled with dirt and grime and filth and part of the building. You see the light you get scooped up and you're in some other building. And at this point here where are 25 years later, can you reflect upon what happened that day, the luck that you had, why your life was saved doing so many others were not. Do you look back and what are your reflections? So I honestly believe that my guardian angel helped me out of that building or helped me survive. And when I after being in that lobby for a short or in that building for a short time, I was taken to the hospital just to get cleaned up or get my, you know, my vision was really bad for all the stuff that got in my eyes. I was taken to the hospital and the doctors nurses were patiently waiting for incoming patients, you know, from the building, but nobody came because most, most of the people died.

16:25There wasn't a lot of injuries. They were expecting like a major influx of people to come in, but it was quiet because again, most people died. Most people didn't make it out the way I made it out. So again, I was lucky. I think I thank my guardian angel. If I guess for taking me taking care of me. After they cleaned out my eyes and washed me up or washed myself up a little bit, I went back and and got another look at the devastation. It was, it was horrible day. There's been information coming out that maybe New York City, et cetera, did not tell the truth about the toxic materials that were ingested by people like you were 25 years later. Do you hold any grievances against the government officials in New York City that did not accurately report the health problems? I mean, I haven't given them much thought to be quite honest. You know, my objection is they had only see my whole unit work the morgue right after that.

17:30So my whole division actually worked the morgue and we were there to try to make some kind of sense out of the body parts and the bodies that came in. But most of the job, or most of the police were on the pile, meaning where the buildings were. And those buildings burned. There was fire burning in those buildings for months. My problem is, or my question is, after they realized that there were no survivors, which would have taken, I guess, a few days. Well, after they realized there were no survivors buried, what was the rush to clean up the building, like the, like the aftermath and the crumble building. They should have waited for the fires to go out. And then they should have went in and cleaned everything up. And just moving all that, moving that dust and that dirt and that buildings and everything else that. Decidigated on the way down. Got a lot of guys sick and that was on the safe.

18:32We've got minute remaining. How's your health today? Thank God my health is good. Thank you. All right, retired and you served two more years. Do you have any feelings or thoughts about Mamdani, the, who's an Islamic extremist, democratically elected mayor serving now that the New Yorkers who were alive after 9, 11, a 9, 12, 9, 13. Could they have conceived that New Yorkers would have elected a person like Mamdani? It's, it's an incredible. It's an incredible thought. I can't even wrap my head around the fact that people both of this guy who's friends with all of these extremists and he actually has the. His chief council represented how kind of terrorists and now he's a chief council of New York City. It's ridiculous. I mean, it's, it's amazing.

19:33But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what happened to our city and a major part of our country to I'm not sure I can explain what happened. Retired police officer, Detective Sergeant Mike Cadella. Thanks for coming on the bill, cutting him show the name of the book is the evil that walked New York and the evil continues to walk. Mike Cadella, thank you very much. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. God bless you. I'll let's continue with more you the lived or died. And Mike Cadella had the guardian angel protecting him walking toward the light. Bill Cunningham news radio 700 W. U. L. W. The entire draft room groans because you just took the guy they wanted. There's no better feeling than crushing your fantasy football league. I'm JJ Zacharyson, host of the award winning late round podcast before your draft are players to target and players to avoid episodes tell you exactly who to circle and who to cross off. Listen to the late round fantasy football podcast and the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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