88: How The Traitors' Jade Scott Learned Social Deception 👀

0:00Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Chamba. Jump in at chambacacino.com. Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary, BTW Group. Boy, we're prohibited by law. CCNC, 21 Plus, sponsored by Chamba Casino. One consistent color for every job. Milo's pro rewards members get a 20% paint discount on future purchases after paint annual qualifying spend reaches $3,000. Plus, order eligible in stock paint and paint supplies by 2 PM for free same day delivery by 8 PM. Improving is easy and low. Excludes spray paint and mistons. More exclusions terms and additions apply. Subject to change. Details of most.com slash terms. Same day delivery validants, Alexa Cubs, subject to driver availability. Details of most.com slash same day delivery. I don't say we don't ever spoil you here on press X because we have got a special little episode at. Is that a word? Well, we're just going to roll with it. Okay, basically what we've done is, we've sat down and introduced into the continue club.

1:02One of the stars of the biggest TV show in the UK in 2026. Jade Scott is one of the faces you recognize from the treaters and she loves her video games. And so we sat down to talk about her time on the show and also about her love of games. It was fascinating and lovely and here she is. The obvious question for me to start with Jade is when did you get into video games? Because when you watch a show like the treaters and you see somebody and they describe you as a gamer as someone who plays as well, you're like, yes, go on, come on, get to the end. Go on, you know what I mean? You're all automatically you had like a hoard of fans who were sort of willing you on. But when did you start playing? I was like 14 and 15 years old, I think. And I started off with Minecraft and Gary's mod. What was it? You were one of those. Yeah. Oh, it means it. Yeah, Gary's mod was like super popular at the time and I had like three friends at school that I kept it like very to myself that I played games

2:05at the beginning because I was quite shy of it. Yeah. I didn't want to be judged. But the guy friends I made, they were really nice and we just played Gary's mod together. Yeah, because it's funny, like, especially that age when you would have been that age. There was, there was a stigma and it still is to an extent to stigma around it to the state, right? But you, you have in such a nice time that on Gary's mod and playing Minecraft that you, you, you battled on anyway. Yeah, it was, I didn't, I got to a point where I just kind of stopped caring about it because it's something that I loved anyway and it's just nice when you can interact with different people in your year group and it's like you have different interests and like no one else really liked gaming that much and then I'd just kind of sit and have lunch with them and said sometimes as well. Yeah, so you made your sort of community of mates off the back of it essentially. Yeah, and we still keep in contact as well. It's just so nice. It's all the way from school. Yeah, so it gives you that, because for me, it was, it was Pro Evolution Soccer and Metal Gear Solid that I played with, right? Yes. It's okay.

3:06And, and you still remember those moments, some of those things that happen. And when you stay up into the early hours of the morning as well because you're having way too much. What was it you think about Minecraft then that sort of grabbed you? Because I've played Minecraft with my nephews, affair, but I never, never really got its hooks into me. But what was it about you that you were like, oh, wow, yeah, this is the one of all of the games I could be playing, is that one for me? I think it was like the variety because at the beginning I was like, oh, I just really like building stuff, but now I still play it sometimes as well, but like I just play really heavily-modeled Minecraft now. And then you end up building like these massive machines that is actually quite technical. You need to go on to Google and be like, how do I build this and how do I do that? And I think it's just a little dopamine that you get when you complete a project. You know what I mean? I've done that now. I've built a farm and it's automated and I'm really happy with one. Is that your best achievement in an automated farm? I mean, it's good, I've never used that.

4:06I've never got that far, do you? I had done a few bits that were automated. I think that we had like a server going over Christmas as like a Christmas challenging friends. Yeah. And we had to basically submit, yes, for Santa's sleigh. So I built a factory line for making chocolate bars from like growing the chocolate all the way to the end to make you the chocolate bars, yeah, or spirited. I was quite proud of myself. That is an achievement. And is this why you ended up working in STEM or sort of what you're going to work at pursuing a career in STEM, do you think then, Jade? Because of this stuff? I don't know really. I've always just liked biology. There was just certain games that were really niche called, what was it she won't call niche, that I liked where it was like, or centered around inheritance and biology. And I think I've always liked science. Like if you asked me what I wanted to be when I was younger, it was like, I want to be a zookeeper. And it's just like evolved since then. So I think, yeah. I'm hoping you've played the zoo games then, Jade, right?

5:10You know, you've run your own virtual zoo, surely. I feel, I've played Let's Build a Zoo. I do it like that. Because you make, you can make, like, snake duck crosses or capybarra duck crosses. I just think it's so funny. Did you ever get into the, the Pokemon thing then, as a, as a sort of, you know, with, you are as a budding biologist when you were younger? Was that something that, do you win? Yeah, I played lots of Pokemon. And I was one of those kids that would play on my DS as well. And I hide onto my pillow when my dad would come in and check. I was asleep. Yeah, I'm sleeping down my eyes are closed. I promise. There's no DS under my pillow. Don't go under there. But, yeah, Pokemon, when did I start, like, sapphire? I think was when I started and then did black, white to, yeah. Yeah, you know, you'd start knowing your age, Jade, when you realised that people's first Pokemon wasn't blue or red. So now I feel, I feel very old. So thank you very much for that. That's great.

6:11It made me terribly, there, Jade. So, so move this briefly on. We've got a feature on the, on the podcast where we ask people to come on. So I'm springing this on you a little bit. So feel free. If you don't necessarily have an answer, let's maybe come back to the end. But we've got a little feature, what we call the unsung hero game, which is basically a game that's people love. But maybe they think didn't get the credit it deserved. So it's something that you think is, oh, this is amazing. Nobody talks about it or nobody else played it. Or why isn't, why isn't this the most popular game in the world ever? So I don't know if you've got one that springs to my immediately or maybe we can come back to it later on, but just let that percolate. Do I have one? I'm like low-key pulling up my library in the background. Oh, do you have this? Or full? Yeah, that's great. Oh, that's really hard. So it's a tough question. I mean, we don't like putting people in spot too much here on press X, but you know what? Sometimes you've got to do it, Jade. What was one that I really enjoyed? I think it was like until then that or games like until then or to the moon.

7:12I think to the moon is probably the more popular one. Like those story games are really heartfelt. Yeah. That I don't think get enough praise because the story telling in them is just so well done. And like I was sobbing by the end of both of them. And I was like, it's a game. Why am I crying? I cried. I vividly remember the first time I cried playing a video game was playing the last of us. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, surely we can do spoilers now. When his daughter died earlier on, I was in bits. So great. At the end of Red Dead Redemption 1. Same. Do you know when you, the bullet time bit, were you thinking, okay, I can clear these? And then you realize, oh, wait, no, I can't. I can't save him. You can't. And then you play it back again. And then he starts coughing. And it's just like end the game now. I'm not playing any more of it. Oh, that's even Red Dead 2 as well. Oh, yes. Oh, so many times. So I think crying again. It's good like you've, we're just like anything.

8:13And it's when you're watching a movie or some people stopped at the end of the, of the traitor's judge. You know, like you get emotionally connected to these characters. You do. And I think it's really nice because gaming I think for a lot of people is about escaping as well. And you can just take yourself out of what you do day to day and like put yourself somewhere else. But what do you think you sort of connected with games as well, a little bit as that sort of escapism? Yeah. And also just like the puzzles, like I really love getting in green. It's like a big puzzle game as well. It works your brain in a different way. Yeah. So let's talk about then your, your experience on the, on the traitors. And I'm fascinated to know if. Playing games at all helped you prepare, prepare for the show in a sense of. Because you know, there are obviously loads of social deduction games among us and whatever. I mean, not that you can sort of prepare. Maybe you think you can. I don't know, but like did you ever, did you do that? Sort of intentionally or sort of accident or. I think it's something that I've always enjoyed doing. So it was kind of like, oh, I guess I could play like some games here and there.

9:18Because I do, like, I do have like a lot of things that I rotate through on my library anyway. Like if I play the same thing over and over again, I'll get bored. So if I played loads of social deduction games by the time I went for traitors, I'd be like, kind of sick of it. No, I'm joking. But no, it's just come something I played. But the thing with social deduction games is that you can play them over and over again. You can't play the traitors twice, right? So, you know, you can have a go at being an imposter. For example, I have a go at being a crew mate and then figure out what your strategy would be there. But you're again behind a screen. Yeah. And you don't need to control, like someone could say something really baby obvious. And I'd be sitting over here as an imposter beaming. But you can't do that around a table. Of course. So you're up against a poker face that you can't practice, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because there were so popular. I can remember when I said, like, everybody seemed to be playing at some point. Wasn't there was everywhere? Yeah. I mean, I only played it again for the first time this week.

10:20Otherwise, I'd not touched it since 2022. I was mainly playing Project Winter and Dale and Dawson. Yeah. But yeah, the poker face, like social interaction thing. Talking to people is fine, but trying to keep a fit straight face, or like trying to keep us off together when you're clearly nervous is very difficult. And did you, did you find that in there? Did you, like, having to be on, and to be on all the time as well, right? You're always, someone's watching you 20, we're not quite 20% but a lot of the time. Yeah. And that's a thing, like, especially with the traitors pick ground table. I don't think you're used to being under such scrutiny from 21 pairs of eyes, like, around the table. And you can actually feel the tension building in the room. Like, you're not, I'm not going to say that gaming doesn't capture those moments because there are cases that do, but like, in that bit specifically, like, you can hear the person next to you breathing. Or like, you can fill your heart racing. And it's just like, the room is so quiet and there's so many people in here. Were there any lessons that you did pick up from your time in games?

11:21Are you trying to apply there? Or is it actually just, you know, a totally different experience? And actually, gaming is an escapism for you. And it was nothing, it was totally different. I think it was just bits and bobs on, like, how to argue certain cases. So, you know, like, saying project winter, when two people go out and then you want comes back and it's like, oh, you know, they got attacked by a van. Like, very obvious that they didn't. It's like, it's like situations like that when people are arguing for a certain thing. It's like, actually, we'll know, look at it from this perspective. I think it was very helpful in, like, looking at different angles to come through. Yeah. Project winter is quite a, it's quite a bleak. It's quite a bleak engine. You seem like a very nice, nice person. And that's pretty, when I'm, when I'm the trader in project winter, it'll be me and my fellow trader and we're like, oh, comes a sort of a faithful con, come with us, whatever. And then, you know, we've been that we pull out our access and it's like, it's game over me.

12:24Yeah, I don't know if this has helped in your case at all, James. And, and so since since coming out, then, have you, did you slip straight back? Because it sounds like you've got a real array of stuff. You started off with minecraft, I think they're most popular game of all time. Well, that was GTA. It's obviously dabbling for that number one spot. But also, but it sounds like you've got quite an array of indie titles and smaller games you play as well. So, you know, have you got sort of straight back into playing? Did you enjoy having a break when you were up there in the castle? How has it been? I honestly, I think, missed it. I put a lot of value into it just because of the escapism. And, you know, it helps you go back into like your next working day, for example, with a fresh, like clear head. But I basically went straight back to it when I got back. Amazing. And what do you, what is it that you're playing at the moment then? What's got its hooks into at the moment? Slay the spire. It's good. It's hard. It's really good. I love it.

13:24Do you love a hard kit? You love it. I'm standing on a real insight into your personality here, James. You love the tricky ones. Next thing, you'll be telling me you love dark. What do you think I wanted to be a favourite? I do love Dark Souls and Bloodborne and Sakura. I do. I do. Yeah. I'm not surprised. So, yeah. What is it about Slay the spire then? So, you know, and for people who don't play, haven't played Slay the spire. It is a tricky, it's a tricky title, isn't it? Yeah. It's a deck building game and you basically have like enemies and you work your throw it way up through the act and levels. It's tricky. I've done the Iron Quad and the Silent on Ascension now. But I need to get complete the run with the defect, which is really complicated, to be able to start fighting the heart and get a higher ascension level. So, I'm currently doing that as well as the sensation at the moment. Yeah. I was found this really fascinating. Do you think that you were drawn to games because of the puzzle element or do you think

14:25you started to just judging by the games that you enjoy? There's a lot of degree of puzzle and you've talked about loving other puzzles or whatever. Yeah. Do you think that you were drawn to games because you loved puzzles or do you love puzzles because you played games? Do you see what I mean? Was it a chicken and egg or was it happening at the same time? Yeah. I think it was, I was drawn to games and that made me love puzzles for sure. I just think the kinds of puzzles that people come up with and write into the stories are so good. And when you get that moment and that click, when they realize how to figure out how it's just so, it's just such a nice feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You obviously are well known now in the UK and around the world, Jade, for being in a program where figuring out truth was, and statements of fact was important. So, can I have your opinion on whether you think this statement is a truthful statement? It's a link to something that's happened in the podcast and I'd love to have your take on it if you don't mind. Okay. So, if someone said to you, and this is a hypothetical person, if this person said to you,

15:27I have completed Time Crisis 2 at an arcade for a pound, right? But they had done that because it was 10 pence a play, if that makes sense. Yeah. Are they speaking the truth by saying that they've completed it for a pound? So, they've paid one pound and they've completed Time Crisis 2, but for that one pound, they got 10 gos. Well, you had 10 gos. Yeah, but you still completed it for a pound. You did still complete it for a pound, but it's a really odd way to put it. But it's factually correct, isn't it? It is. Yeah. I like it though. You don't have to like it, Jade. You just have to tell me whether it's true or not. It is true. Thank you. Thank you very much. Obviously, this hypothetical person has been making a living off that for a while. It's very good. Now, the expert in truthfulness says that that's a true state. Great. Thank you very much for clearing that up for me. It's been a while. No, Jade, obviously, since you did the show itself, and with a couple of weeks' pause, the massive public interest in you,

16:32and you've been on all the radio shows, I was really sad. Actually, I got to interview some of the winners afterwards, but I was hoping to chat to you then as well, because I would have asked you about games at that point, but just missed out on the opportunity. What's it been like after the show going out and sort of reflecting on the whole experience? It's been so good. While I was in the castle, and I was kind of really anxious and nervous as you could see at the beginning, there was a kind of subtle thought, you have to go through your head like, oh my god, this is going to be aired. And then you kind of watch yourself back, and you're like, why am I doing that? But having all my friends and family who don't know anything, watch it back and seeing their reactions is really nice. Yeah. And that was also really rewarding, because I did go and get as far as I possibly could, like I did do really well. And there are so many people being like, oh, I'm so proud of you, and the university were like super supportive as well.

17:34So just, you know, and then fellow gamers being like, oh my gosh, we love a game and you're doing so well. And like, being a woman in the gaming world is like kind of difficult sometimes anyway, but I was just so well received. And I was really surprised by how nice the feedback was. Did you, because sometimes people, and I sometimes have a, not a problem, but I have an issue with the term gamer, right? Because, just because I play video games that doesn't, shouldn't define who I am as an individual. I also watch movies and I play sport and, you know, I'm in books. I'm not a booker, or I'm not, I'm not a sporter, do you know what I mean? Because I like, I like sport. But yeah, did you have any concerns? Or did you ever think about, oh, I think I'm going to be, because you need short hands for people. So I get it. I understand where you say, did is a gamer. Did you ever think about, about that, and how that would be perceived before the show came out on the telly? No, it's kind of like, I, so my, my game plan was to say that I, and I did, I didn't, I wasn't, oh my gosh, words.

18:39I didn't say I was doing a PhD. I said I was doing a masters. But the one thing that I did have that was true was the fact I was a gamer. And, you know, you can kind of hope as well that other people in there also play games. And that's one thing you can bond over. If you're not being truthful at one thing, you can make your whole person, I say about playing games. Yeah. That could only go so far though. So I just had to make it about, like, Pokemon and Minecraft. Because I wasn't about to come out and say, I play all these social deception games. Yeah. I play games that are really mean, actually, and quite hard. They actually re-challenge the idea of, you know, sort of people's morals. And they're sent into the gravity. Yeah. And because I suppose a new, you know, reflector on them, we've had lots of conversations on the podcast about a lot of our regular contributors are women in games. And it is, it is sometimes a tricky space to navigate, isn't it? And it's also true. I've seen you speak publicly about the same in science, right?

19:40And in STEM subjects, it's the same. So are you finding that there is a change? Because you've been playing games for a long time. Are things getting, even if they aren't perfect, are they getting better? We're actually hanging about. We need to have an honest conversation about how much we've still got to go in terms of making it feel 50-50 and feel inclusive. I think overall, it feels better to when I was gaming when I was younger. That said, I was younger then, so I wasn't as well equipped to manage things like that. But even for both science and gaming, you'll still have those one-off cases. Well, unfortunately, someone will just come out and say something that is a bit misogynistic and not very nice. But at this point, like, I just start clapping back and then they don't really have anything to say. And look at, look at, you know, and you're doing amazing, you well. And so, you know, the vast majority of people are sure we're very proud of you. And like, it's nice to say, you know, people do look up at people on the telly, don't they?

20:42And it's like, oh, look at that. She also plays lay this by her. And there she is getting really far from the traitors. Yeah. For people who loved you on the traitors then jared and have listened to this and think, oh, I actually like games with questionable models and puzzles in them as well. Are you thinking about doing, because now you've got, you know, a bit of a media profile and social media followers and all that stuff. Do you think about doing something with games? Are you thinking of streaming or anything like that? Or is it just something you usually want to keep as a thing that you do to escape and play with your mates and have a nice time? I'm actually streamed already. Look at this. I sure am. She spot the man who hasn't done his preparation very much. It was very, it was very, it was very last minute. I used to stream during my undergrad, especially when during the heights of COVID. And I found myself like I wasn't going out. So I missed that connection with people. So I streamed during COVID and then took a break, especially at the start of my PhD,

21:42because it just got too busy. But then recently with the traitors having come out, people were reaching out and being like, I would love it if you stream. And so I did a collab stream with someone else when we played Operation Tango. And it was brilliant. I think it reminded me of how much I missed it. So I hope that I will be able to do more. If you listen to this and you want to see model J, then keep across the socials and know that will say when you're going to be out there streaming again, we'd love to see it. And get to see you making questionable model judgments live on the internet stage, which is fantastic. Games are there to do that. So that's you know, because we had this conversation the day like I was saying, when I played toggle red dead redemption again, playing red dead redemption to I had to, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't. It's so hard. It's so hard, isn't it? It's so hard. Yeah. But yeah, there we are. It's just maybe it's the way I'm wired. So listen, just to finish up then, Jade.

22:43Listen, thank you very much. We love you. Have your time on the podcast. We really appreciate it. And we look forward to seeing more of you streaming in the coming weeks and months. If there's someone listening to this who also wants to traitors of that eye, you know, it's a bit of me that I think I wouldn't mind applying. So do you encourage people to go and try and be on the show? Was it a fun thing to do or actually it was so stressful? Maybe, you know, I think again, what would you say to people? I think that if you're worried about it being stressful, anything that's worth doing will make you feel like you're in over your head a little bit. And it's the growth that you do during that process that I think actually you learn the most about yourself and you'll look back on it being like, that was insane. Like the most insane games you'll play, you will sit there and be like, what is happening right now? And it's the same feeling. So I just say just do it. Amazing. Well, Jade, listen, thank you so much for time. We'd love to have anyone with us. Thank you. And also great to know that a person who says they completed time crisis two for a pound,

23:43even if it took them 10 gores, is as speaking the truth. It's a pound. It's a pound. It is a pound. It's a pound. It's a pound. It's a pound. Jade has been a joy. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah. So make sure you keep across Jade's socials for when she's going to start streaming. We'll look forward to that. So that is it for this little episode. We will be back next Tuesday with a full fat version. Is that a term I don't know. We're back next Tuesday with more finest of discord. Get involved in the socials. We will see you soon. Bye-bye. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Jamba. Jump in at JambaCasino.com. Let's Jamba. No purchase necessary. BTW Group. Boy, we're prohibited by law. CCNC. 21 Plus. Sponsored by JambaCasino.