3AW Mornings with Tom Elliott - Thu 10 Sep, 2026 - Full Show

0:00Now, until noon, this is Mornings with Tom Alliets. It is 25 to 9. Good morning. Now there's some pretty big issues I want to get stuck into today. One is corruption at both the state and federal level. I'm getting quite sick of us as the innocent pawns, people who play taxes and go to work each day, being the victims of corruption. It involves the Victorian Labor Party and it involves the Prime Minister, Anthony Albedezi. We'll have a look at that. Also on the agenda today, Immigration. Now we are chasing South Australian Premier Peter Melon, as he's written a lengthy editorial in the Australian newspaper today, defending immigration. And he's from a migrant background himself. There are pros and cons with high levels of immigration. The pros are, it keeps the economy going. It will help Australia as our population inevitably ages because we

1:04will need workers. It keeps our universities going because foreign students pay very high fees to come and study here. The cons, of course, are obvious, congestion on the roads in the hospitals at school, you name it. And I don't know, we go back and forth and back and forth on immigration. How much was it this year versus last year and so forth? I still, and I do want to take this up with Peter Melon, ask us if he can come on and we're in touch with his people. No one ever talks about what is our goal for the population of Australia. If you had that universally settled, then you could define an immigration policy from it. If the majority of all of us said, right, we want Australia to be 40 million people in 25 years, a number would pop out. It's to how many migrants we would have to bring in each and every year over the next quarter century to get to 40 million. Or if we said no, we don't want the population to go above 30 million. We like Melon, Sydney, Victoria, New South Wales, all the other

2:07places, pretty much as they are or a little bit bigger. Well, then we would wind immigration back. But instead we keep going back and forth this number, that number each year. Some people say, oh, it's not a number. It's what the economy needs. It's what our society demands, etc. Anyway, we are chasing Peter Melon, ask us. He says, we do not want to, as he puts it, race to the bottom on immigration. One of three six, nine three mornings at 3aw.com.au. Also today, Oski Yilders will join us. Now a lot of you would know him. He's a JP. He's been along to Mary Beck previously, Maul and Councillor. He's running for State Parliament, the upcoming election. He's got a very interesting policy for full licence holders that is driver's licenceers. He wants to lift the number of numeric points you can accumulate from 12 to 18. He wants P-platers to have nine numeric point limits. I like this. Oski's point is that we hand out numeric points much more

3:07freely than we used to because there's red light cameras and speed cameras just about everywhere these days. So lifting numeric points. Now, I'll be honest, hands up in the air. Twice in my life, I've had my licence cancel each time for three months because I exceeded 12 numeric points. And it was a pain in the absolute backsoil, as you can imagine, suddenly not being able to drive. You've got to completely change the way you live your life. So you might, of course, I want numeric points lifted. I might have since I lost my licence the second time. I've accumulated very few points. So I may change man or a change driver. But what do you reckon? Lift the numeric point you can accumulate from 12 up to 18 and a 50% increase. Oski yielders will join us later on on the program. One of the three six, nine, three mornings at 300.com.au. But let's just go back to corruption. There's two examples that really pisses me off and I apologise for the bad language there. But the first is the Labor Party here in Victoria. It's been revealed that at least two and possibly more Labor higher companies affiliated with the CFMU donated money to the Labor Party

4:13here in Victoria ahead of the 2022 election. Now does anybody wonder why we have someone's corruption on the big bill? I'm just going to spell it out. The CFMU says to Labor higher companies that it controls donate money to Labor politicians. Apparently Lubbock-Grogorovich is now a state MP, receives some of these donations. Okay, so it says donate money to Labor politicians. Labor politicians then start a gigantic infrastructure program. We know it's the big build. And the CFMU gives to reward money hundreds and millions of dollars out of the system and that's now the subject of a Royal Commission. But Labor turns a blind eye to it. Why? Because they receive money from the very body which is ripping us off. So where the taxpayer get ripped off by the CFMU? And some of that money that the CFMU rips off from us is used effectively to bribe the politicians to turn a blind eye. This has been going on in Victoria for the past decade. And I just, you know, if you run for the City of Melbourne for example as a Councillor, you're not supposed

5:17to take donations from property developers. Why? Well, it's obvious because one of the big powers that the City Council has is to say yay or nay on planning decisions. So we don't want, you know, City Council is to be in the pay of property developers. You know, if the Liberal Party received billions of dollars of donations from big business and then just did what big business wanted people would say well, that's corrupt. Now you've been paid to produce these sorts of policies. And yet when it comes to the State Labor Party and other Labor parties, we want to speak to Jeffrey Watson and see after nine o'clock. He's the one who's been reporting on the CFMU when it's corrupt activities up in Queensland, but it affects us here in Victoria too. But I mean, so the CFMU you can donate millions of dollars to the Labor Party and individual Labor politicians. Those politicians turn a blind eye to corruption. To me, that is corrupt behavior. And it is going on in front of us. It has been for years and no one says, boo, do a goose. Now the second example involves the Prime Minister, Anthony Albert Easey.

6:17Now he is the MP for Marickville up in Sydney and it turns out that he's authorized a six million dollar donation tax payer funded donation to the Marickville Golf Club. Now he's an honorary member of the Golf Club. He says he doesn't play golf, but he's not a very member. And again before the last federal election, the Marickville Golf Club put up on its social media posts, popping for an elbow tonight, that's a beer. And then it says, it's election day, make sure you cast your vote vote Labor Labor Party beer. So basically the Labor government in Canberra gives the Marickville Golf Club six million dollars of our money. Now most of us will never ever play golf at the Marickville Golf Club. And then the Marickville Golf Club urges its members to vote for Anthony Albert Easey and to vote Labor in the election. It's corruption. One of the three six nine three mornings at 3aw.com. I'm just sick of it. I mean, I don't know what the solution

7:18is here, but I don't understand, you know, that the left side of politics, Rance and Raves about big business and Gina Reinhart donating money and then Gina Reinhart's control over politicians. Meanwhile, they donate money to golf clubs. The golf club urges its members vote Labor. Or the CFMU at Affiliated Labor High Countries donate money to Labor politicians. And then they're same politicians turn a blind eye to corruption. We are the ones paying for this. All right, the corruption on the big bill means that we are spending billions of dollars more than what we should have to to build tunnels and roads and all the various other things that the big builders involved in. All right, at the Marickville Golf Club, I mean, six million dollars is small beer for the federal government. But why should we pay as taxpayers for a donation to the Marickville Golf Club? So you can then urge its members to vote for Anthony Albert Easey. It's corruption. And it needs to stop. One of three six nine three mornings at threeaw.com.au. Let's go to

8:19some calls. Lynn, hello. Yeah, hello. Basically, this is to do with immigration. Hmm. Basically, the system's geared for development. If you stop the development, you stop the system. That's the way it's geared. Yeah, it's like what they used to call a Ponzi scheme where you need more and more people coming in to keep the thing going. It's simple as that. Every 24,000 immigrants we get, there's another 8,000 houses built, which is another 8,000 bushing machines, 8,000 private, 8,000 televisions. It's just the way it is. It's just geared for that. Well, it is that has been the way it is, Lynn. I agree, but it doesn't have to be that way. And I would like to look, we're hoping on 50, 50 confidence, or whether we'll get Peter Melon ask us on the program today. He's been speaking about this this morning. The rumor is he wants to have a tilt at federal politics eventually. So he wants to engage with issues which are outside his remits as the premier of South Australia. But he says, look, immigration is good because it

9:20helps combat the aging of the population that it brings in job-ready skilled migrants and vice-students, keeps our universities going. And they're all valid points. But I would say, yes, but it does make things more crowded. It does put pressure on the housing market. And no one ever asks us what we think. Thank you, Lynn. Peter, hello. Tom, look, Tom, with all due respect, I don't know why we complain every... I love listening to you, so don't get me wrong. I don't know why we complain every day about politicians because they don't have... They're not held accountable. Yes, you can say that they get voted out and all that sort of but they walk off into the sunset with a superannuation, pay out that not you or I would get. If I stole from my company that I worked for, I would be on the streets. Yet these politicians day in, day out absolutely wrought the system. And they walk off, you know, Daniel Andrews, Jacina Rowland. She's in Europe with a family having an amazing time, I guess. Right?

10:20Where there are people in this state who are absolutely hurting and I do not understand why these people are not held accountable. Well, Peter, I agree and it's not only accountable. I mean, Jacinda Rowland will get a very generous pension of around about $350,000 a year for the rest of her life and if her husband out lives her, he gets half of that pension for the rest of his life. Again, paid for by us. 1-236-03-03-mournings at 3aw.com.au. Pulumel calls the emails ahead. After 9 o'clock, we're going to speak to corruption, busting the lawyer, Jeffrey Watson, SC. I don't know. It just makes me angry. You know, and it's so obvious. CFMU and Affiliated Labor High Countries don't have money to labor. Labor turns a blind eye to corruption on the big build. We'll get ripped off. Albo, or maybe it's the federal labor government, authorises a $6 million donation to the Marickville Golf Club, I've been Sydney. Then the Marickville Golf Club urges its members to vote for Albo. Well, I mean, that's less excessive as far as corruption goes, but it's still wrong.

11:25Right now, it's a quarter to nine. It is 11 to nine. A lot of emails coming in mornings at 3aw.com.au. TB says both mass immigration and political corruption are destroying this country every day. Corruption, definitely. Immigration, there are pros and cons. What I want to see is the debate. I mean, personally, I would like Australia's population to top out at no more than 35 million. And that means we have to wind immigration back. But I can see the benefit of having students come here, as long as their English is adequate, and for many that is not true. They do pay fees, which keep our universities going. But again, let's have the debate. But it's based on where we want the population to be, not just an annual figure of migrants. And Robin says, in order to fix the issue of corruption, we need a benevolent dictator, like Singapore leader or former leader, Lee Kwan Yew, who wants to describe Australians as the white trash of Asia. In. Good morning.

12:40The other $48,000 going through. And by the way, children's golf club is a council golf club. It's not Victoria running the floor. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, I can only imagine that, I mean, I think this part of the suburban railroads already overblown budget is to try and sort of placate people who live around the Cheltenham to Box Hill area. So the 60 grand, I didn't know what a golf simulator cost. You're saying it's 12 grand. That leaves another $48,000 on the table. I mean, maybe to be like the Marickville golf club, the club will now say to all of its members, go SRL, go the rail loop, go Ben Carroll. I don't know. I don't know, but it smells in. That's what I don't like. But yeah, corruption annoys me that the donations from CFMU, from the both the union and its affiliated labour hire companies to the labour party, Ben Carroll has said we will not hand the money back. You're investigating the CFMU for corruption. Jeffrey Watson, who we're going to speak with after nine o'clock has previously said that, you know, 15 to 30 billion dollars has

13:42been siphoned off by the union and handed over to organised crime. How can the labour party accept money from entities like that? But it does show and prove why they turn a blind eye to this sort of behaviour. Tom, good morning. I'll get eight, Tom. You talk about the population not being consulted. We didn't have to convince the, for the censors, sorry. Yeah. Why wouldn't they ask a question about what do we want the population to be? Why didn't we ask about nuclear energy? Why didn't we ask about Australia day? Why didn't we ask about the Australian flag? Could it be the opportunity to poll the Australian public? Well, I'll tell you why, Tom, because the government doesn't want to hear what all of us have to say about these issues. Most of us want to keep the Australian flag as it is. Most of us want Australia day to remain on the 26th of January. Most of us probably don't want a population that heads towards 50 million people or more.

14:42Nuclear energy, why don't everybody or a majority wants nuclear energy? But again, it's an obvious solution to our power problems. And yet the government doesn't want to hear this because for them, it's all about we will decide immigration and we won't tell you about it. And we want a bigger population because there was an analysis by Cosmirus from Redbridge. He said that 80 to 85% of recently arrived migrants tend to vote Labour. Well, if that's true, if he's a child of immigration himself, then is it a surprise that the Labour government wants to crank up immigration levels? Thank you, Tom. Kim joins us. What have you seen, Kim? I'm wondering why we're so quiet on the cost of petrol. I mean, the prices have creeped up so much just over the last month, right? Like our survey, we've got one of those pie faced in the base and that's usually one of the cheapest. I've never seen the E10 at a price so high. So it was 2.11 over the road on Canopy Road at 7.11. The cheapest is 2.17. And then the next one's 2.34.

15:49I mean, these are beyond what we've seen yet and yet we're very quiet about it. No one's talking about it. It's a good point, Kim. I remember when the, well, what are we calling the crisis for Tony Rowan and Israel and America when it blew up early in the year? We went down it long for a weekend and I said to my wife, we better fill up and we paid $2.25 and I said, oh, that's a lot. And that was when oil prices really spike. Look, what's happening, Kim is, is the oil prices going back up again. The straight of all moves has not been really reopened. America is bombing various targets inside Iran and rather than this being a short term crisis, which would soon be over, it looks like it's going to keep going for a long time. All right, unleaded. We're affected. It's E 10 petrol in the base and $2.11 a litre up. Grown you, Kim, the weekly word of the street price, we give it away tomorrow. It's a $1,000 of outspended, individual, the handmade and remodeling specialist. And of course, if you win that automatically, you'll be in the running for this $60,000 towards the Mercedes of your choice.

16:51Thanks to Mercedes Benz Brighton, where if you trade in before September 30, you'll receive a genuine guaranteed $5,000 trade in bonus. Joan, good morning. Hi, Tom. I just want to say a comment and say thank you for continuing to be such a strong voice for the people of Victoria. People are struggling to put food on the table and there is this growing feeling that the Labor government is corrupt and failing ordinary Victorians. So I just wanted to come on inside. Just please keep talking about these issues and raising awareness. Yeah, look, I will. I wish like a lot of people that we could do more. I get very frustrated about it. I mean, Joan, anybody, the majority of us are dealing with a cost of living crisis. We said the value of the money we bring home from work, buying less and less, whether it's petrol or at the supermarket or whatever. And then we read story after story and hear about example, after example of money being wasted, money being funneled into corrupt activity, state and federal. And it's no wonder we get angry at five to nine. It is just on nine o'clock.

17:55News coming up at a moment with David Armstrong. After the news, we're going to speak to corruption, busting lawyer Jeffrey Watson, SC. He was the man who estimated that Victoria's big builders had almost 15 to $30 billion dollars siphoned out. A lot of it going to organize crime. And also, in a Phil journalist grant conjoins us. Now he's one of the whole coderies of Americans who have descended upon our city. He's been here for almost a week. This is his beloved. He'll be joining us as well. And your calls and if you'd like to discuss one level three six nine three. On three AW and across Victoria, this is Tom Elliott's. So in past nine, one level three six nine three is the number to call and just remember, escape your pricey talk. I visit a mason.com for a photo of my bold plans. A good news. I still to start of the program. I was hoping to talk about immigration today because I feel like the debate keeps going around and around in circles. There are pros and cons about having high immigration.

18:56South Australian Premier Peter Melon, our scus has written a lengthy article about this. And he has agreed to join us in about 25 minutes time straight after the nine thirty news headlines. So that is good news. He's article just to summarize quickly. As he says, there's three broad reasons why immigration is good for Australia. One is it sort of reduces the inevitable aging of the population. Two, we have a shortage of a lot of important skills and migrants already have those skills can come here and very quickly get well-paid work. And three, he said that our universities are the key to research and development and improving productivity and so much uni funding particularly here in Melbourne has tied up with overseas students. So we need them too. Now against high levels of immigration is of course house prices, congestion on the roads, congestion at the hospital, congestion at the school. So we'll have the debate with Peter Melon, our scus straight after the nine thirty news headlines. Jeffrey Watson, SC, I talk with you

20:00about corruption in a moment. And just on that Angela send us an email. Angela says, corruption drives me nuts, I hear it and I see it and I don't know what to do about it. She says the Labor Party seems to do exactly as it pleases. Well, look, like all governments, it has to face re-election and we're having a state election here in Victoria in just three months time, two months now. And we'll be having a federal election I think like next year. But with the corruption, it is not specifically a Labor thing or a Liberal thing or a one-nation thing. It is politicians. Politicians want money to run their political machines. And when they get that money, it always comes with strings attached. Now my, the reason I bring up Labor here in Victoria is they've been in power for 12 years. They are openly affiliated with the CFMU and other companies that the CFMU controls Labor higher companies. Those companies donate money

21:02both to the Labor Party and to individual Labor politicians. Is it any surprise that for a generation now, Labor has turned a blind eye to corruption. No, it is not. And I mentioned Anthony Albanese, the federal government donated $6 million to the Marriottville Golf Club, which is in Anthony Albanese's Electrative Grain Law. And on, I think it was election night, 2022 when Albo was elected, the Marriottville Golf Club urged its members to vote Labor and vote for Albo. Now that's lower level corruption, but it's still corrupt. We give you money for your Golf Club. You agree to vote for us. 1, double three, six, nine, three. Jim joins us. What have you seen, Jim? I just said that you know, Tom Petrol has gone up. I let it $2.20 and these will $2.70.9. Yeah. I'd make, yeah, that is not good. So how much is diesel? $2.70.9. Oh $2.71 a liter. Yes, oh, God. All right, Jim. Well, look, the price of oil has gone back

22:08through $100.00 a barrel again, but on the more positive side from our perspective, the Australian dollar is quite strong. It's over 72 US cents, so that should offset the price of oil. Look, what are these? I mean, the petrol stations and companies, they look at the headlines, they go, oh, wow, you know, the US has bombed around overnight. Oil prices are up, and we'll put up the price of fuel. Now, it's not because the fuel in their tanks has magically become more expensive. They just react to the headlines. Thank you, Jim. We'll treat that as word in the street as well. You could at the end of the year be in the running or at the end of the week, I should say, for our yearly price, $60,000 towards the Mercedes-Virti. Thanks to Mercedes-Benz Brighton, they have a spring demonstrator sale on right now, 250 vehicles available for immediate delivery. An ex-guest was the man who came up with the figure of somewhere between $15 and $30 billion, siphoned off by the CFM EU from Victoria's Big Build, some of which was allegedly handed to organised crime. He is director of the Centre for Public Integrity,

23:09Jeffrey Watson is C. Good morning. Good morning Tom. Well, you know, we've spoken about this a lot this year and congratulations to you and your work. But today it's been revealed that, you know, labour hire companies are so shated or affiliated with the CFM EU donated, have donated money to labour politicians and the labour party here in Victoria and being Carol, the new premier has said he will not hand that money back. I mean, to me, you know, you get a CFM EU, labour hire companies don't have money to agree with politicians and those politicians turn a blind eye to corruption. I mean, to me, that just seems very wrong. Your thoughts? What about the message from your listener Angela? Angela, I'm with you. What's happening is that where there's this corruption and where there seems to be nothing happening to stop it or stem it. Everybody in the community loses trust. I mean, it's just a really awful and city-est feeling. Yeah, it is. You want to talk about the particular donations that's a slightly

24:14different issue, but I send my heart out to Angela. There's a lot of people who feel like you and I do Angela. Yeah, I mean, I don't know for certain that, you know, any of the individual politicians who receive this money were given a secret message. You know, don't talk about corruption on the big bill, but the point is it looks bad. I mean, it's like we don't allow in here in the city of Melbourne for Councillors to receive money from property developers because we know that Councillors might favor those developments and that would be corrupt. So we sort of don't allow that, but we seem to put up with it at a state and federal level. Well, they just separate the issues here. The immediate thing is these donations you're talking about came from contractors. Now, put aside the union issue because the collection of the Labor Party and Trade Unions is not something new. In fact, the Trade Unions came first. The Labor Party came second. Yeah, but let's get into the contractors. So I'd like to ask a broader question. Maybe a bit deeper and darker. What on earth are people who can benefit from government contractors doing

25:17donating to political parties of power who can allocate the contracts? Yeah. That's just a bad idea generally and that's got to be where it stopped. Well, that's true. And again, the new Premier who I've interviewed maybe three times now said, you know, he wants to put a stop to this bad behavior, but he won't hand back that money. I mean, the money just donated two or three years ago. Now, so maybe it's all been spent, but it just is a very bad look. And even the Prime Minister, you know, there's this six million dollar donation to the Marricville Golf Club, which sits in his electorate. And on the night of the 2022 election or the day of it, you know, the Golf Club put on social media vote, elbow vote, labor. I mean, I don't know if that's corruption, but it just doesn't look good, does it? Well, there's a couple of things in that. First of all, it is a style of corruption, which, you know, in the trade, we call it great corruption because it's on brown paper bag stuff. It's a very different form of it. It's very subtle. It can influence people

26:19without them even realizing they're being influenced. But could I just go back? I look, you know, I've been pretty tough on the Labor Party in Victoria over a period of time, Tom. But I tend to wonder whether there's any advantage in making the Labor Party pay that money back to him, would they pay it? Would they pay it back to the bad guys? The point is that I would rather see this address at a more fundamental root and branch level by getting rid of the idea that contractors can be funding or paying donating to political parties. On the other easy thing, I can come to that separately. I know a bit about that. Well, this is the thing and then there's even deeper question. I mean, how should we fund political parties at all? I mean, on the left side of politics, they say, we don't want, you know, Gina Reinhart controlling politics in Australia, although frankly, I mean, I'd probably rather have Gina Reinhart doing it than the CFM EU if I had to make a choice. But they don't see on the left side of it. I'm sorry, I wish to be placed in Tom, but anyway, go on. But the left side of politics doesn't seem to see a problem with union donations,

27:21influencing things like the big building, thanks to your work, we know just how damaging that is being. Well, well, there's something else I do, which I regard personally as more important. I do a lot of work in the area of election funding. I do know a bit about that. The Center for Public Integrity actually deals with that all the time and we've done a lot of research on these matters. It's sort of simple as saying, for example, that they should be publicly funded to get the people out of it. Now, you can't have that. You want to have people involved. You want to see some sort of donation limit, but it gets very tricky when you talk about a spending limit because that gives a huge advantage to the major parties, so for independence and smaller parties. So the whole thing is a really complex area, but I can tell you right now that Cartel, as I call them, the Coalition and Labor, they've got no interest in fundamentally reforming the election funding system, because at the moment it suits them right down to the ground. All right. One final question,

28:26you might not have been aware of this possibly of this gray corruption that you mentioned. A suburban golf club here in Melbourne, the Cheltenham Golf Club, and Cheltenham, of course, is where the suburban rail loop is going to start, if you're going to get to build. But they, the suburban rail loop itself donated $60,000 to the Cheltenham Golf Club for a golf simulator. Now, we've already had one golf ring up and say a simulator only costs 10 to 12,000 dollars, which begs the question what the other $48 to $50,000 is going to be used for. But again, the suburban rail loop donating money to a local golf club, presumably to placate members in the area, is that another example of gray corruption? Well, I haven't heard of this before you raised a bit, I'm still right now. My eyebrows are up. It's that's pretty strange. I don't know that I I could call it great corruption without knowing more, but I would say distinctly weird and requires some sort of public justification. Tom, it's public money. It needs to be allocated

29:29where it's needed and where it's most effective. It's not hard. You've got to justify every penny that you give. Now that's public money on a golf simulator. Yeah, exactly. All right, thank you for your time, Jeffrey Watson, SC Director of the Centre for Public Integrity. And look, I can't guarantee that whether it's Albo's donation to the Marickville Golf Club or the suburban rail lit donating money to the Cheltenham Golf Club or Labor Politicians receiving money from CFMU affiliated Labor Hire organisations. I can't put my hand on my heart and say, this is definitely corruption. But I can look at it and say, eat stinks. One of the three six times three mornings at 3aw.com.au putting calls and emails coming up south Australian Premier. He's probably the most popular Premier in Australia. Peter Melonaskus joins us after the 930 headlines. He loves 40. He loves beer. He does Barric report at a late. But he also says we need to

30:29embrace a policy of relatively high immigration. We'll have that debate soon right now. It's not in past 9. 22 past 9 back to calls the moment. First, those are emails on immigration and we'll debate this with South Australian Premier. Peter Melonaskus shortly. Bob says our low birth rate is partly a result of high price, high housing prices. Well, that's true, Bob. I mean, people, it's a natural thing to want to own a home if you're going to start a family. And there's all sorts of reasons that the birth rate has fallen. But one is people get married later. You know, my parents and their generation people were married at 22, 23, maybe 24 years old. Now it's almost a decade later. So by definition, if you partner up later, you're going to have fewer children. People want to have a home. And if they can't get a home, they're less likely to have kids. A lot of women prioritize careers over family. Jackie says Chris Bowen, the federal energy minister, has just announced the policy to keep 20% of gas here in Australia. Does that mean Victoria won't keep banning gas? Well,

31:32I don't know, Jackie, because the problem is most of that gas is exporter from Queensland or from WA. And there's no obvious or easy way or cheap way to bring more of it down here to Victoria. Like we do have a pipeline that runs from Queensland down to Victoria, but in the winter months, it's 100% utilized. We can't pump any more gas down it. So that is an issue. And on the Domerad points, we're going to speak to Oscar Yilders, he's a Mary Beck Councillor, he's running for State Parliament, the upcoming election. He wants to give full licence holders 18 Domerad points to lose, not 12. Hebe says in the USA, there is no point system. If you get caught speeding, you just pay the fine and it's done. Why is Australia so backward? Well, as someone has lost their licence twice for accumulating too many points, I agree. Glenn, good morning. Yeah, great. I'm just on the question of corruption. There's another level of government that doesn't get enough focus on that's the public service that's supposed to sit between politicians and the public. They should be the checks and balances. They should be keeping an eye out on

32:35project supervision like the big build and corruption generally. If we had a non-prolificised public service, I think a lot of these issues would never arise. Well, look you right, although the Victorian Auditor General and Ombudsman have been speaking about elements of corruption. I think it was the Auditor General right yesterday of the day before about the secret SRL levy which was tacked onto our marquee fairs. So some public servants do do it, but you're right. The public service is very much politicised. Under Daniel Andrews, everything went through the Premier's office and he had something like I think 100 staffers. So they and their careers were entirely linked to the Premier and his political health at the time. So they weren't going to speak out against it, but I agree with you, Glen, a truly independent public service would speak out about these sorts of things. Greg, hello. Tom, just a bit of history. I'm not sure if you remember it. Back in 1986,

33:38the Builders' Labor Federation was deregistered by the whole government for bribery, corruption and criminal affiliations and stuff like that. Then, indirectly, what's six years later, the CFMEU was formed by merging a couple of unions that sprung up out of the BLF. Isn't the CFMEU just the BLF with a different hat? Yes, I'm corruption, the same criminal activities, just a bit like that. Yeah, Greg, I have looked to this and yes, I'm old enough to remember it. I remember Norm Gallagher and they used to fly the Eureka flag, it was the CFMEU flag, which is one of the reasons that it's sort of hard to imagine the Eureka flag as the Australian flag, which some people do want. But yes, so what I believe happened, Greg, was the CFMEU is legally a different entity from the Builders' Labor Federation, but a lot of senior members of the BLF transferred over to the CFMEU and allegedly took with them the same sort of corrupt mindset.

34:43And so it is perhaps no surprise that the CFMEU is now evolved into the 21st century version of the BLF. Thank you, Greg. Yeah, but it's a very good point. Bruce, hello. Yeah, good morning, Tom. I just read the golf simulator. They're actually worth about 80 grand, a minimum. Oh, I see. We're in a golf club. Somehow, somewhere around before and said it was only $12,000. I mean, I don't play golf, so I've got no idea. Yeah, but if you put that in your shed, that's what you'll probably pay. It's a much cheaper version, but for a golf club, we just put one into a house with raised money for it that was $80,000. So what's your golf club? I don't really know. That's all right. No, it's, it's, um, we're about to say, roughly a saturdays and suburbs. Okay, so you don't, what do you should feel a bit, a bit hard done by because the children golf club being right on the right near the suburban rail loop appears to have been given their golf, uh, but golf simulator funding to sort of placate angst about the, the SRL. Yeah, I'm not happy about money going to a golf club or that.

35:51No, again, you just wonder why I mean, but and this is not the government. This is the, yes, the suburban rail loop authority apparently itself. Look, I again, I only know what I read, uh, yesterday, but the suburban rail loop authority has the ability to hand out money to community groups, which include of the Cheltenham golf club, they've been given $60,000 apparently for their golf simulator. I never thought I'd be talking about golf simulators on this program, but we are now again, you can't prove that it's corruption, but given that the suburban rail loop is already struggling for funding and we don't even know what the real budget is and the premier, you know, says, I don't know the figures that were, you know, estimated seven years ago, we can trust them. I don't trust that for a moment. But it's short of money. Why is it handing out cash for golf simulators? Like the only reason can be is that it hopes that the members of the Cheltenham golf club, if indeed that it has members, will somehow feel kindly towards the suburban rail loop and that is a form of corruption. Thank you, Bruce. Jeff, hello. Tom, when it comes to

36:55donations, don't many of the big businesses and the, um, peak bodies donate to both political parties are sort of on average, each way in case they want to keep their, um, air open sort of thing. Yeah, they, they used to, um, you know, the big banks, mining companies and so forth because they knew they'd have to, you know, half a time deal with the coalition government and the other half the time deal with the Labor government. What is happening though now is that big companies, a lot, a, a choosing not to make political donations at all because shareholders quite rightly and shareholder groups are saying, well, look, if it's not in our direct interest, like why would you do that? Now, you can see why a mining company might donate money to, I don't know, in WA, if one side of politics was very pro mining and the other side was against, they could say it's in shareholders interest for us to donate money to the pro mining side of politics because that will help our company. But just sort of trying to curry favor in general with politicians of both stripes, I don't know. Thank you, Bruce. So sorry, yes. Thank you, Jeff. Dan, hello.

38:03You get a tom, mate, I called a few months ago with what I reckon is a great solution to immigration issues, which is being used successfully around in many countries in the world. And that's, you can invite as many people as you want. So long as there's no pathway to permanent residency, you'll certainly citizenship. Yeah. Well, that's what they do in the Middle East, I believe. You can turn up there to work, but it's for a fixed period of time and then you have to live. That's right. I worked there for 10 years in several countries over there and you arrive and work there and it's great, it's great country, it's very safe. And at the end of your contract or if your contract is terminated or you just want to decide you want to leave, you go home and then you know the second class citizen, you're a first class guest. Yeah, you're a guest. Yeah, I think you buyers like that. They have guest workers, I must admit, they're not always treated well, but there's no prospect of citizenship for them. So if they turn up, they know what the deal is, they're there to work and eventually they'll be sent home. Look, we could do that, but

39:05one of the reasons that people do want to come to Australia, whether it's to study your work, is the prospect of being able to stay here permanently. Anyway, South Australian Premier, Peter Melon asked us to join us in a moment. First off, you said lines with David Armstrong. David, good morning. Good morning. You said 10 o'clock, this has just happened. Boy, we're redeeming the banished liberal. Now sitting on the cross bench, you were run for family first. I didn't know family first was still a thing. Well, you might want to tell her because she's going to be their lead candidate in the upper house. Well, do they have a seat? Well, she... Well, the upper house is, I don't think they do it the mastery of. We have had a long, colourful criminal history here and they've been raised with illegal cigarettes and drugs and car parts. What's happening? No, no, no, no, no. The new thing is hair extensions. Did you hear this? Well, you know, you've got a settle, two Melbourne sell on owners, but it's like it's tens of thousands of dollars and it's two raids back to back, one in Port Melbourne, one in South Melbourne places where you go to get hair

40:07extensions. I didn't explain it as to what hair extensions. They've made up money involved. Obviously, yes, they've gone past the till, they've gone past an eye pad and a lot of others. They've actually stolen the hair extensions. They have gone in and stolen, well, one of them was $50,000 worth of hair extensions. So I know, that's the look I... But it's a thing, it's a thing. A new insurance counter does. I just grow my hair. You're not much of a... Well, it's patchy. Oh, it is. Oh, no, I tell you. New insurance counsel, Dada reveals Victoria is recording almost as many home burglaries as news, South Wales and Queensland combined. And calls had a similar thing. Calls nationwide said 71% of their theft, it occurs in this state, nationally. So it was 70% of the crime of calls, it occurs in 25% of the population. You're an international traveler. I need your help here. We've had a boystress conversation in the newsroom. The LA Rams have arrived here at 6am this morning to play a NFL game. You don't need to say 6am this morning.

41:11Well, well, it means... I mean, it's... No, but it means this morning. 6am this morning. Very, very good. They got on a plane two nights ago, whatever it was at 10, 10pm. So would you stay up and try to get onto Melbourne time and and sleep through the night to wake up when the plane lands to be here during our day? Okay. The solution to jet lag is to try and be in the condition that you would want to be at local time. So, for example, if you land in, say, London, it's usually 6am, you want to have had a sleep and then you wake up and you start for the whole day. Yeah, for these guys though, they're going to have to play a game of football tomorrow. I think it's too soon for them to deal with jet lag. They're just going to have to actually just be... I'll just push on through. Just push through. This is what Eddie Summerfield says. So, they climb on a plane at 10 past 10. If you're tired boys, go to sleep. Have you slept now? Yeah. So they've landed while I've been up for about 6 or 7 hours. They won't be there to have a sleep this afternoon.

42:13Oh, this is so interesting. That's what they're at 10. One of the three six time three mornings at 3aw.com.au. Immigration, do you want to hire Lauer the same? And why don't we have a debate about the future population of Australia? South Australian Premier Peter Melon asks us. Join us in a moment. Right now, it's 25 to 10. 22 to 10. Time to take a look at an on deck, unsecured lightning loan. For fast moving small businesses, go to on deck.com.au. So I read very interesting editorial into those Australian use paper. It's entitled, don't let populism dictate Australia's migration policy. In the article outlines, good aspects of immigration and some perceived bad aspects, mainly related to congestion. The man who wrote the article is the Premier of South Australia. Peter Melon asks us, good morning. Good morning Tom. Good morning, good morning. Good evening. Well, thank you for joining us now. My reading of your article is that there's three major arguments in favor of a, let's call it a strong immigration program. There's, there's trying to see off the aging of the population. There's topping up skills that we have

43:16a shortage of and there's keeping our universities funded and doing R&D via the money provided by international students. Is that, is that how you said? Yeah, principally, that was the main thing. I'll make a argument I outlined last night. I mean, I guess what I'm concerned about Tom is we're seeing a national political debate on migration where everyone seems to be arguing what we're against rather than thinking through what we should be for. I mean, I think we all agree. We shouldn't let people into our country that don't share our values and support our democratic way of life. I think we all agree that we shouldn't have a open door, let it rip migration policy. But what I'm concerned about is no one seems to be arguing what we should be in favor of. And last night I saw to outliner an economic argument in case for that. See, I find the debate perplexing because it always seems to center on how many migrants are coming this year or last year or next year. And yet very rarely do we talk about a sort of a vision for

44:20the population of Australia. I feel like if we had a shared view of how big we want Australia to be in terms of population, we could work backwards and come up with a migration policy that people would agree with. But for some reason, we don't ever seem to do that. Yeah, well, you know, in many respects, I agree. I think we should be focusing on what we need. I think here's the problem. If we start with just a number, you know, it becomes an arbitrary exercise, you know, pick a number any number and work backwards from there. I actually think we shouldn't start by picking a number, we should start by establishing what do we need that is in the national interest, you know? Look at the demographic profile. Look at the fact that in only a few short years in our time, we're going to have more people in Australia over the age of 65 rather than under the age of 15. That's never happened before. As massive implications for being able to do the work that many people will expect to be done in retirement, right? And so if we think that through, that should be the

45:20dominant consideration here rather than just a political concern about the rise of migration, which I think has been fed by the Muslim. But I suppose that the issue is what is the national interest? I mean, you've outlined in your article, you know, some strong economic arguments for higher migration. But then, you know, we did debate the other way, about what if Melbourne gets to 10 million people, which some demographic say will happen by the end of this century? Like what will our city over here look like? What would your state, South Australia look like with a doubling population? You know, I think qualitative aspects are important. Like, you know, can you walk along a beach by yourself? Or, you know, can you expect to go to a public hospital and not have to wait too long? Are things that people also think about? My word, right, which is, which is again an argument for making sure that we plan and think this through carefully. There are, of course, huge consequences if we don't have careful calibration and just let it rip. Right? And you've just outlined a few examples. But there are also very severe consequences if we could tailor it arbitrarily

46:22without thinking through the implications of that. And hence my argument last night, and what I was seeking to outline is, you know, the debate shouldn't be dictated by, you know, a wave of populism. It should be, it should be dictated by what is in our nationally economic interests and our social interests. Let's face that out, you know, a little bit. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to housing crisis more than a migration crisis. We need more homes built, right? And we could even eventually shoot ourselves in the foot if we could tailor migration when the natural fact, you know, on every part of the country and not particularly during South Australia, I need more sparkies, brickies, toddlers, concreters, roofers, you name it. We need them all. Yeah. And that problem, that problem is going to get worse. Well, just on sparkies, like we were talking about data centers the other day. And yeah, there's hundreds like in Melbourne and I'm sure it's the same in South Australia. You know, we've got probably thousands of electricians making a lot of money, you know, working on data centers. The average new home has a lot more wiring than homes used to. It needs four times as much electrical work. So, and yet we simply

47:27don't have enough electricians. So, you know, there's a case for bringing in more qualified electricians into Australia that I think people would agree with. So, firstly, first stop is to make sure we're training up every young Aussie that wants to be a sparky. Well, that's a no-brainer. Right. And actually, we've seen regardless of the politics of various state governments around the country, everyone's sort of putting, you know, a lot of effort into that. And the federal government's actually done a fair bit of really good work in this area too. So, first stop is to train up young Aussies. But then after that, if we've still got a shortage, yes, we're going to be bringing them in. I mean, you talk about data centers in South Australia, we've got the similar challenge, but also with, you know, building the these nuclear subrenes and the frigates, they require extraordinary amounts of electricians to do that work. It's unfathomable. And they're going to be well paid. We're going to money expansion in the north of my state. So, they're going to suck that out of the civil construction sector, which will have those exact consequences you're talking about, which will actually make life more expensive to someone who

48:29just wants to get a bit of basic work done in their home. Yeah. Final question. I mean, I've attempted, and I appreciate you coming on today, I've attempted to engage federal politicians both Labor and Liberal on the subjects of immigration and trying to have these discussions. And over the years, there's been a market reluctance to do so. It's like, you know, they just don't want to talk about immigration too much. And maybe it's because they don't think there's votes in it or maybe it's because they worry about what people will say. But it's very hard to get federal politicians weirdly, apart from Pauline Hanson, who love a heighter, has strong views on this issue. They don't want to talk about immigration. They just don't. There's a vote loser, mate. That's why. Well, you tend not to please too many people when you talk about migration, right? Unless you're arguing against it. So, I think that's the real risk. Is that if we don't have an honest conversation about this, if we don't have an honest conversation about how badly you could go for us, if we don't think it through, then I worry about the implications of that. So,

49:33I'm willing to put my head above the parapet and argue the case for a strong, sustainable, well-calibrated targeted migration program. But if we only focus on the negative, like I said, we could wake up one day and be full of regret. But think about Melbourne. It's one of the, one of the heartbeats of Melbourne is international students. They are in the PNOWR and DBACE. We've got a productivity problem in this country that's hurting people's stand of the living. If we don't have R&D, we don't have innovation. If we don't have innovation, we have low productivity. If we have low productivity, people get lower wages and that makes everyone's life worse. So, I mean, that's just one example where we should be making the argument loud and proud. Now, a final supplementary question. Almost every politician I see puts on about 10 kilos and they go into politics and whatever level of fitness they have goes out the window. You are the reverse. You are the fittest politician I've ever seen. How do you do it? A bit of patience for my wife. I've got to retain and I try best as I can to stick to it early in the morning. But

50:34you know, come, come Christmas. I'm looking for a bit of putting as much as the next person. I can assure you of that. Okay, think of me time. Peter Melon asks us there, premier of South Australia. And maybe one day, a federal parliamentarian, one of the three six, nine, three at 14 to 10. So, I live in a town with an awful excess of blackburn. Their biggest ever exhibition must end. It's September the 30th. Don't miss your biggest ever. Lexus Buying Opportunity LMCT 1009-3. It is currently 12 degrees. Our forecast top today is 15. How long it calls about rising petrol prices, which is linked to ongoing tension in the Middle East? Bernard. Bernard, Bernard, Bernard. So, petrol is going up because the school holidays are only 11 days away. Yeah, maybe. Laurie wants to know also via EMR. Why can't the CFMU be deregistered? Well, it's a good question, the BLF 40 odd years ago was deregistered. The CFMU is in administration, which in the union movement is different from what it means for corporations. A corporation that is in administration has basically gone bankrupt. What is happening with the CFMU at both state and federal level is

51:40new people are running at, but we're yet to find out if the behaviour has changed at all. And Ryan says on the subject of demerit points, we've always had the same number of them, but the speed cameras and other technologies to catch people having crates. It's a very good point in Ryan. And after the 10 o'clock news, which is not far away, we're going to speak to former Deputy Mayor at former Mayor, I should say, Mary Beck Council, Oscar Yilders. He's running for state parliament in November. One of his policies used to increase the number of demerit points from 12 to 18. Ross joins us. Ross, good morning. Good morning, Tom. First of all, gee, isn't Peter Malin asking us for refreshing? Well, he is. I would say he's probably the most popular Premier in Australia. Maybe Peter Christopher Lee up in Queensland is similar, but answering questions and speaking plainly is what people want, but we so rarely get. It was a pleasure to listen to. Anyway, what I found

52:42about Tom is the grads, donations, whatever from the service, the rail link. The Green Waverly Bowling Club and Pickleball Club, which I remember has been donated $70,000 from the SRL to put lights over up eight Pickleball calls. Right. So you're a member of the Green Waverly Bowling Club and the SRL has been very generous, 70 grand. What do they do at Ross? Is it just a curry favour with local members? I'm never going to vote for the nearly-way spent so close, please. But you won't knock the money back, will you? No. No, of course not. Well, that's interesting, Ross. Well, we'll treat that as word in the streets. So the Cheltenham Golf Club got $60,000 for a golf simulator and Mark Allen has texted me and said, good ones can cost $80,000 to $100,000, so maybe they're getting a cut price one, but still, why is the suburban rail loop handing out funding for golf simulators? And our rolls at the Green Waverly Bowling Club, $70,000 for new lights for night-time balls.

53:45Green Rolls, you could well find yourself in the draw for our yearly prize, $60,000 towards the Mercedes of your choice. Thanks to our great friends at Mercedes-Benz Brighton, you could take a test drive and discover how the model you drive fits into your life beyond the showroom. Paul, good morning. Good morning, Tom. Very interesting discussion with Peter. I heard a lot about the national interests. I guess another way to look at that is to say, well, you know, what do we want? What does the average Joe want if he's worried about populism? I think what the average Joe wants is if they want to maintain their quality of life and he spoke about that a little bit, you know, in terms of standard of living. Now, if you say, well, and you touched on the points, infrastructure, can you get a hospital bed, a police station's open, housing, can you afford a house, you know, crime? Well, that comes back to the values of the people that you're letting into the country, but I think we need to take a different look at it. You know, there was discussion there around, oh, we need trades and we need electricians and we need plumbers and so on to fix the housing problem. Yeah, if you build houses the old way,

54:45yeah, you do. I invite you to Google Toyota Home. Have a look at Toyota Home online. They modular build houses in factories. They're pre-climbed. They go out to a site and they're erected in about four days. You don't need to put here in Australia. But I don't do it in Australia. They only do it in Japan. It's better in Japan. But after higher thousands of electricians to be over all the sites, they hire electricians that wire the buildings at the factory and they plum the buildings at the factory and then sure, they go out in the symbol of building, put them all together and you need plumbers and electricians to finish it. But the bulk of the work is done on a production line. I will look at that and actually, I have a personal fast nation with factory build homes because I think I've seen some. In fact, I know a family who's got one and they're very happy with theirs. The only thing is in Australia that the companies that do them seem to go broke at a rate of knots. But yes, the idea that you can essentially make the same home over and over again

55:49on a production line and then just assemble it when it's already a lot of the work has been done on site. I think it makes a lot of sense. Margaret, hello. Hello Tom. I just want to say what a lovely man that Melanie Nesky is because everything he said just made so much sense. I know. It's actually terrible how we say he's amazing because he makes sense and he answers questions because as I said before, most politicians don't do it. They avoid questions and they answer things that they want to say, not necessarily what we want to hear. He was amazing because he covered all subjects like, of course, we want the immigration. But again, he said, we have to be careful what we are bringing in. Well, the type of people. Yeah, I agree, Margaret. And that's why I've got him on. David Christopher Lee in Queensland is completely different politics, but similarly popular as Peter Melon, ask us is in South Australia.

56:50Very different from Victorian politicians at five to 10. 10 o'clock years of David Armstrong almost upon us after the news, given how much sort of traffic control there is via red light and speed cameras and how many points we lose off our licenses, what about a policy if we all get 18 de Merit points instead of 12? Oscar Yilders, Mary Beck Councillor who is running for State Parliament is running on this very issue. Also San Francisco 49ers journalist Grant Conjuan just he absolutely loves Melbourne. 123, 693. On 3AW and across Victoria, this is Tom Aliens. It is 7 past 10. In a moment, De Merit points. I think you know, have a confession to make. I made it early, but I'll make it again if you just joined. Just so twice in my adult life, I've lost my license. Not for one particular thing, just for accumulating too many points. The old system, I don't know if it still applies. If you went through 12 points, you could either lose

57:52your license for three months and then they would wipe the slate clean or you could keep it, but you had to have an unblemished record for at least a year. And if you got one more point, you'd lose your license for a much longer time. So each time I chose the three months off and I've become a more conscientious driver since then. But we're going to speak to the former Mayor of Merribeck, Oscar Yilders and the Mayor. But he is running for State Parliament this year. And amongst other things, he wants to increase the number of De Merit points for full license holders from 12 to 18. Pea players would get nine De Merit points. One of the three, six, don't three, visit amason.com until your pricey talker. Where to go? Brian, good morning. Good morning, Tom. I was just going to the point system actually. I think making it 18 is a good idea, but other than that, because there should be some flexibility because you could lose six to nine

58:52points in a day. And the transport system is so weak over here, you can't get to go in a place to place. So it's very hard for a person wants to go to work or you know, and then emergency. It's hard. The driving is very important actually over here in Australia. Yeah, it is. It's done a smart place. And public transport is also very expensive here, Brian. I mean, you now would spend, you know, thank you for the call. If you do a trip in the morning and then another trip in the afternoon and even just within zone one, you know, what do you think? $5.80 plus maybe a secret suburban rail that live here, which we were previously unaware. Each way. So, you know, it's almost $12. And if you're a student or someone on a, you know, not a particularly high income, that's a fair bit of dough. That's, you know, 60 bucks a week. And the point is if you own a car, you know, you're going to spend $12 on petrol each day. Thank you, Brian. Aaron, hello. Tom, here you going. Good, Aaron. Tom, I want to go back to the discussion about population. The one thing that no one ever

59:56seems to talk about is how busy and how big an Australia, the average Joe like me actually wants. Now, I've just knocked up a little bit of a spreadsheet. And if we increase our population by 100,000 every year, and I don't think there are any political parties that are talking about it increase as small as that, by 2050, we will increase our population by nearly 10%. If it's 300,000 a year, by 2050, we'll increase our population by 25%. Well, I simply don't want the population to be 25% bigger. I don't want 25% more cars on the road or 25% more people trying to get in the small car. I don't want that busy. I agree. And that's why I did suggest to Peter Melon-Anskis half an hour or so ago that we, you know, we have a debate. I think the way we did it ahead of the Republic was really good. I remember there was this big sort of double page thing that you could, that the, forget it, but the public service put it out. Anyway, it tried to summarise all the pros and cons of a Republic versus the system of government. We still have

1:01:01the constitutional monarchy. And I thought it did a really good job. It wasn't overly complicated because, you know, obviously millions of people had to be able to read it and understand it. And it sort of set out the pros and cons of both systems of government and then left it up to people to make up their own mind. And of course, collectively we voted to keep the system we have. We don't do that often enough where we actually tasked the public service and so right. Take the politics out of this issue, like immigration. How big do we want to straight it? What are the pros and cons of a higher population? And yeah, Peter Melon-Anskis says, written this article today and that's why we got him on. He was good. Sort of putting out the economic need for immigration. We lack certain skills. We've got an aging population. What's the other one? We need international students to help fund our universities and they're all powerful arguments. And I counted with, well, what if you want to be able to walk down a beach and just be by yourself? Which you can do on parts of the Mornington Peninsula, for example? That's

1:02:02a qualitative thing. But it counts for something. This idea that we're not always surrounded by lots of other people or the expectation that if there is something wrong with you, you can go to a public hospital and be seen in a reasonable amount of time. Anyway, there are pros and cons of higher immigration. And Aaron, in terms of 100,000, I mean, put, put, put, enhance and one nation, that they're backing net immigration of no more than 130,000. So their policy is not far off yours. All right, our next guest is a semi-regular, make semi-regular appearances on this program. Two-time former Mayor and Deputy Mayor at Merribeck, formerly Mauland Council. At the upcoming state election, he's going to be running for the seat of Essendon. Oscar Yilders, good morning. Good morning, Tom. Are you running for a party or is it independent? Is it independent? Okay. And Essendon is the seat next to the, the premier seat, Nidri, isn't it? Right on the boundary. So there's, there's almost streets that are right,

1:03:02literally next to each other. So a lot of people think on running in Nidri, but now I'm running in the seat right next to his. And look, I read part of your platforms today. You want to increase the number of numeric points that one could accumulate. I never know. Do we start with 12 and work our way down or do we get, I think we get the numeric points, we work our way up. You want to increase for a full loss this whole number of numeric points from 12 to 18, is that correct? That's correct, Tom. I mean, our cars have changed, Tom. We've got electric cars now. Our roads have changed. Technology has changed. And enforcement has changed as well. I mean, back in 1970, when they invented this or they established this system, there were no traffic cameras. There were no, there was only 1.3 million vehicles on the roads. Now there's 4.3 million more. In fact, 5.6 million vehicles on our roads. I mean, we're with the dark ages. I mean, we need to move with the times. I mean, everywhere you turn, Tom, you're getting, you're getting fine or booked by a camera. I mean, it needs to be at least 18. There needs to be a balance. And even for the

1:04:07P-players, that needs to increase to nine points because they're new drivers and they're going to make mistakes. But for them to lose, potentially get two fines and lose their license for three months and not be able to go to TA4 or to their apprenticeship or to uni or even to high school, I think it's pretty awkward. Yeah. Because I mean, there's another type of camera we now have. We have those ones that are high up that they're looking inside the car to see if you're wearing your seat belt or feeling with your phone. And like, for example, I've got this like a lot of modern cars. My car is a wireless charging pad. But it's fiddly, you know, and I'll put the phone on it. But then if the car goes over a bump and the phone stops charging and I promise I think, oh, am I allowed to just put the phone back on the chart? No, I'm not. I can't touch it because if I do, it's 3D merit points and $600. So, you know, just for adjusting the charging of your phone. So, all right, so what you're saying is we, we, thanks to all these cameras and speed detectors and so forth, we're far more likely to get to merit points. Hence, we should have a few more to lose. Absolutely. And in fact, you've four points, Tom. If you get caught with your phone on the law, it's four. So you get three

1:05:08of those. You've just lost your license for three months. And you think about the tradis, the Curio drivers, the small business owners, the truck drivers, the motorcycle riders. I mean, losing a license could be potential and losing a livelihood. They rely on their licenses for, to keep their businesses going. I mean, people are struggling financially now, Tom, if anything, that merit point system needs a total review. It needs an overhaul. I mean, 55 years ago, we haven't, no one's thought of this in the last 55 years. We've got all these ministers that are in charge of transport and why you didn't come up with this seriously. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's actually a joke. I mean, no other state would allow this. No, it's interesting. In most American states, though, I know the merit points. So you just, if you get caught doing something, you pay a fine and that's it. You pay the fine and away you go. So I mean, I don't know if the the merit points are unique to Victoria. I don't think they are. But our system, as you say, is particularly harsh on people who commit minor breaches of the law.

1:06:12Yeah, exactly. But in terms of the dangerous drivers or the drink drivers and the drug effect, the drivers, the reckless drivers, Tom throw the book at them. But for the average mum and dad that's trying to, you know, try and put bread on the table to not be able to have your vehicle means that you lose your job. And last year, just say you may not know this, but our courts were clogged with more than 40,000 traffic-related offenses. So you think about it. The court systems clogged. Our judges should be really there for serious offenses, not some of these petty offenses because someone's accrued 12-year-old merit points. They've lost their lives. I mean, it's ridiculous. Well, I think a lot of people would vote for you. Is this your main policy? Or have you got another one that you like as well? No, I've got a couple. There's more coming. I've put everything on my social media. I've got some pretty good ideas. I don't have a campaign team. I don't have a manager who's managing me. These are just ideas that I come up with myself.

1:07:14And I think the people that live in the set of estemen have definitely had enough. I'm sitting here in the car in Eston, in fields and there are two officers scanning, sheriff officer scanning and they're clamping. Tired as I'm speaking to you right now in front of me. They're clamping a car. So they're going around. And because someone hasn't paid their parking fund because they can't afford to pay or they've lost their lives. Or they've changed address and they don't even know they've had a fine. True. That's another thing too. And I think I think the system, I mean, $1.9 million, the states making every day from these fines at about 13.3 million a week. But where's the money going? Is it going back into educating? The people, haters, is it really going back into fixing our 500,000 potholes? I don't think so. All right. Well, good point. Thank you, Oscar. Good luck. Oscar, you'll lose there. Two-time former Mayor and Deputy Mayor of Merribeck, formerly Maul and Council. Now running as an independent for the state seat of Essendon. Look, I said, I mean, look, you can call it populace. But offering to give people the chance to, yeah, you don't lose your license until you get to 18,

1:08:17DeMiro points rather than 12. Who wouldn't like that as an idea? Apart from the politicians in Spring Street, who love the money? One of the three six times three mornings at 3aw.com.au. We go back to your calls and your emails at the moment. As I mentioned a couple of times, we're going to speak to he's an NFL journalist. He focuses on the San Francisco 49ers. They've been here in Melbourne for about five days now, as has this journalist. He's named his grant Conn. And he's done some really interesting social media posts like what he's eating in Melbourne, what he thinks of the city, and that sort of thing. I'm always fascinated by what outsiders think. Because when you live in a place, you know, you're a bit of oblivious sometimes. So the good end sometimes the bad things. And outsiders come along and say, this is great. Or this is weird. Or this is dumb. Anyway, San Francisco 49ers journalist Grant Conn joins us shortly. Right now, it's 18 past 10. It is 22 past 10 emails. Beav says there are a lot of, as I said,

1:09:19suburban or council mayors running as politicians or state politicians this year. So being a mayor is a stepping stone. Look, you are right, Bev. There's a lot of people in local government who are not happy with being in local government. They really would like to be in state or federal government. And amazingly, you can step down from your posters, a counselor, have a crack at a state election, fail, and then just go back to being a counselor, which I don't like that. I don't know if Oscar Yildiz is doing that. I probably should have asked him. And on Demarad points, Diane says, I think we should keep the points, but reduce the cost of the fines. Yeah. It's funny, Diane. I mean, if you are a teenager and you break into someone's house and threaten them with a knife and steal their car and drive a 200 Ks now down the freeway, you probably won't get punished. Whereas if you're a law abiding citizen who drives 10 kilometers above the speed limit in your own car, you will be punished. Dave, good morning. Good morning. Tom, how are you? Yeah, pretty good. Dave, what's happened?

1:10:22Look, I just announced Demarad points in the fall of it. You just had on a short time ago. Now, I'm a delivery driver. I got done by one of them, money making, mobile, seatbelt, mobile phone cameras. Now, I got done four times in one day. Were you not wearing a seatbelt? Yeah, as a delivery driver, I'm in an out of my van every 30 seconds or so. And anyway, they sent me the fines and I got all four of them totaled about 1,500 bucks or something like that. Plus, it's 12 Demarad points, which basically I lost my license in a day. So I challenged it and I said I'm a delivery driver. I got my boss to ride a letter and I sent him a map of the area that I delivered in and all this sort of stuff. And they got back to me after about a month or so and they said, no, sorry, but you're going to pay him. And I said, no, sorry, I'm going to take it to court.

1:11:22And about five days after I sent the letter off saying I want to take it to court, the copper from the traffic group gave me a call and he waved them in the end. Yeah, that's interesting. Dave, look, I'll be honest, I mean, I know it's a pain in the ass for you to take a put your seatbelt on and off, but you know, it is the law and overall it's a good law because it does stop people being injured. But I see why you'd be like that. But yes, for the police to go to court and quite often, magistrates side with motorists over police, but for police to spend a day going to court, cost them time and money and effort that they probably just sort of wasn't worth it for a relatively minor offense. But yeah, you've got to be prepared to go to court and you won't always get off like that. Dave, I will say that I think just wearing your seatbelt is essentially a good idea. Thank you. Matt, good morning. Yeah, mate, I think I might be a don sort of something. I'm just listening to your call

1:12:25is in about the point to merit system for driving. I haven't had a point taken off me for 15 years. And even before that, probably 20 years, like I said to the lady that I got vetted through, maybe it's because I was institutionalized in a military for 35 years and I just did as I was told. Yeah, by the rules. I drive on the roads and do as I'm told. So it's just yeah, I look at I hear you Matt, you're right. I mean, paying a speeding fine or a red light fine or a seatbelt fine, it is a like a voluntary tax. If we all drive perfectly and obey the rules, there'd be no fines. The problem is we are imperfect. We are in a hurry. We instinctively reach for our mobile phones, even though we know we shouldn't. I got a minor speeding fine at the start of the year because I was going down a road, which I've driven down this road a million times. It's on the morning to finish the speed limit. It's always been 100kmh. I'm going to answer me,

1:13:29they loaded it to 80. Now, there probably was a sign, but I just didn't register. And I was clocked doing 91. So I thought I was driving slower than the speed limit, but I thought I was driving 10kmh, or 11kmh over the speed limit. And that's three to merit points in the fine. So it wasn't my fault, yes. Was I being truly evil in deserving of punishment? No, not really. Thank you, Matt. Andy, hello. Morning, Tom. How are you? Good Andy. But Queensland do things a little bit different. I mean, I've lost my license when I ran out of points, but if you run out of points, you can apply to the court for what they call the work license. So, you know, you're on this work license, I think it's daylight hours only. You're allowed to drive. You've got to wear a high-vis top. That gives you the opportunity to still make an income and support your family and move, you know. So you wear a high-vis vest inside the car? Yeah, it's just fun. It's fun. The rules that they've got with the work license, but it means, you know, you can still go to work in an income, but you

1:14:32stipulated daylight hours only. And can you drive on the weekend? No, I see. What about if you're like me? Like I leave for work at about 5.30 in the morning and at most of the year, it's still dark. Like would that be allowed in Queensland if I have one of these work licenses? You know, can your employer's involved in it too? So, you know, if they stipulate you work from 4am to 3pm, then the other hours that are involved. It makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Andy, like it penalises you because you can't drive recreationally. You can't, I don't know, drive to a sporting event on the weekend or whatever, but you can still earn a crust and still drive to and from work. All right, look at that. The work license. Although I do question, is it is there much point wearing a high-vis vest while you are inside a car or from a tinted window? It's like I'm who else is going to see it? Jack, hello. Don't make a way up. Good, Jack. I'm up the country up there, Swansea. What you said

1:15:33happened to you before, there's a young guy who works with us and the road was 100km an hour, put a new sign up, 80, got pulled over, doing 103, lost his license for three months. He had four or five weeks annual leave. He's got a wife and two young kids, more age. You know, for three months, he had about a month where to pay and then he's just trying to graft away. And as you were saying before, people can do crimes and get bail at just an outweighs what he did wrong. And just on a side note, I've got a maiden who lives in Tasmania. For us in 30 years, he's been done for low-range string driving. Tasmania have a thing called restricted license and he's a welder for the hydro. He's boss goes to court with him and they go, he needs to be able to drive to go to jobs, he's a welder and they give him a license so he can't drive recreation, maybe he can go to work. Okay, so it sounds very similar to what they're doing in Queensland. I don't think we have that here in Victoria. And Jack, just a side note on

1:16:35country speed limits, you know, a lot of roads that were 100 have gone down to 80. The reason this has happened is because the roads were in a state of disrepair, you know, there's potholes and the edges crumbling away and rather than fix the road, they just say, well, we'll just cut the speed limit. And that angers me because frankly, if the main reason you are cutting the speed limit is because, you know, the same government that cuts the speed limit hasn't maintained the road. But why do we pay the penalty for that? Thanks, Jack. I want to look into this work license idea. So this idea, you lose your normal driving license, but you can have a restricted version of it that enables you to go to and from work. I think it's a really good idea. Queensland does it and apparently Tasmania too. Ryan, hello. Yeah, hi, Tom. How you going? Yeah, good, Ryan. I've always thought, when you, you know, if you go through the drive through at McDonald's, they've got the Maca's app and you've got it sometimes get the code before there's a code that you can get to. I was just get points. I've always thought, you know, if you're ordering Maca's, if there's a police car that was on the bay next

1:17:37year and you're here, you go on year four, five, two, zero, you could probably, you know, order your food, but then obviously get a fine at the same time because you're not supposed to be in your phone. Well, just paying for it because I mean, I mean, I don't know about you, but I have my credit card right along with my phone. So that's how I'd pay for things. I think the drive through at Maca's cancels a private road though. I don't think it's a public road. So I reckon it would be okay, but it's a good point. And you do see a few police vehicles at McDonald's, don't you? They get all the time. I thought they get free Macs, isn't it? I don't know. If you go to the Richmond Police Station on Church Street, Richmond, the police station is right next door to the McDonald's, which is handy. And there used to be a Mac is at the top of Colin Street, not far from Spring Street. And I went in there once or twice to get a coffee and there was sort of several tables of police and having their Mac muffins and things for brunch. David Armstrong, who loves the McDonald's drive through joined us now for the headlines. Have a good morning. Flashing the Freddy is what I think it used to be called. That the Freddy

1:18:40is the police identification of the bear carrying your wallet. And so we used to walk in a McDonald's and you'd flash the Freddy and or do you get Freddy chips or something? Two be an extra pair of small fries, extra small fries. That used to be a Apple pie. Our news, oh my gosh. And you said 11 o'clock, plans to fast track a one and a half billion dollar data center at the foot of the Westgate bridge. I saw this. People hated it. Yeah, they loved it. They will. The former, it's not a bad idea to build it on the former mobile fuel turn. But did you see how much power you so early as much as a small town? I know it takes six years to build, but it's it's on that list of government fast track jobs. I gave you the story earlier this week of a of a police search of a property that turned up a rocket launcher. That's right. Yeah, now we've found a flame thrower. Good. Do has a flame thrower at home. It was a you got to get some of us the weeds get out of control and you know it was in Moulvin East of all

1:19:41places. Moulvin East is lovely. It's very dangerous. Police found cannabis plants, machetes, tases and a flame thrower during a raid. And a 62 year old, what's a 62 year old man doing with a flame thrower? I told you, sometimes you have to sit far to think. Have you seen the new Apple flip phone? Yeah, we're going to talk about it in a half an hour. I'm intrigued by it. I've already found a problem with it. What the? Well, you followed it in half and you used it as a phone. I think you can fold it out and it's sort of like an iPad. I know. But I don't think you can put a case on it. And I know about you, but like without a case, I would have broken my phone about 82. So is crafty people that make those cases? That works out. They'll work something. They'll work something. They'll three and a half thousand dollars, 80% bigger screens. Well, three and a half grand is the cheap one. The expensive one is almost five thousand dollars. But it look good. Look, it's 80, but the screen's so big. Can you honestly, I'm going to IMAX. Can you honestly

1:20:44fold a screen? And it's not two screens. It's one screen that's flexes in the middle. But surely, if you keep doing that, eventually it will break. Yeah, it is a suggestion. They've got the tech down right. And in sport, Dane Zorco, one of the best names in the AFL has signed for a 16th season at the Lions is 37. He will play on next year. He will surpass Simon Black as the games record holder at the Lions. He's coming up the game 319 this weekend. Well, Scott Piemelry has signed for four years with Gold Coast. He's 39. The first two years, it's as a player. So presumably, he'll be 41. Secure him in the forward pocket. You'll kick three. Why not? All of that 11. Thank you. One of the three six, nine three mornings at 3 AW.com.au. Coming up at a moment, we're going to speak to a journalist. He works for Sports Illustrated, but he follows the San Francisco 49ers. He spent this week right here in Melbourne, as Americans are want to say. We'll get his impressions of our city in a moment at 25 to 11. It is 22 to 11. So the big NFL game kicks off. They do kick it off

1:21:47at the MCG tomorrow. It's the LA Rams versus the San Francisco 49ers. It's interesting. The 49ers came here on the weekend and have been here for the week. And the Rams are only landing today. In fact, I think they've just landed this morning. So they're two very different approaches. But alongside the actual teams and the coaches and the cheerleaders, American Sports journalists who are going to cover the game, but have also been having a look around a city that many of them would not have visited before. One of those journalists joins us right now. His name is Grant Cone. Grant, good morning. Good morning. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Now, it's on the center. Although you're a sports journalist, you focus on the 49ers. Is that correct? Yeah, I'm a beat writer, which means I go to all their practices and press conferences and games and road trips. Okay. Well, this is probably the biggest road trip they've been on, isn't it? Yes, they've also gone to Mexico City, but this is about 11 times as far. Okay. Now, have you been to other Australia or Melbourne before?

1:22:47Absolutely not. So everything, because I've been looking, I've been following you on social media. Now, firstly, tell us just initial impressions of the city is it what you thought it would be? Is it different? What can you tell us? I didn't know what to think. I didn't really have any expectations. My first impression was that it felt just like home. I mean, it's kind of spring here. It's like 60 degrees in overcast. That's what San Francisco is like. That's what I love. So I write it well, right away, I felt it home, but the more I got into the culture, I realized that everything is a little different and I'm just and thralled by the little differences. Yeah. So what are some of those little differences that you've noticed? Well, you guys put like, Veg you might on your toes. I mean, you guys have your very, and I like it, but we don't have that in the States. You talk different. All your vows sound completely different. You guys have this strange sport called Australia Rules Football, which I didn't even really know existed. I thought it was rugby, but it's not, and it's really fun,

1:23:48and like hundreds of thousands of people will watch. So yeah, it's like a parallel universe that's like where I'm from, but has very little cross pollination. Well, see, the weird thing is even in Australia, Melbourne is saying there's quite a different city like it's not, you know, the way there's not particularly warm occasionally, it's snowing here in the winter time and it does snow up in the mountains. And yes, the sport. I mean, Australia rules football was invented in this city and it's not even played all around Australia. You know, the northern states don't really play it. Did you get to go to an IFL game last weekend? I did. I went to the game between the Jouon cats and the cotton blues was my first day here. A friend of mine got me the ticket and told me that I was going. So I got lucky. I was like in the 12th row behind the uprights. It was an incredible experience. And I didn't know the rules. I was sitting next to an 80-year-old man who was there with his son. And I was just asking question after question, and he was so patient with me and explained the whole flow of the game. Yeah, well, I'm a I'm a carton supporter and I was there too and I was not very happy by the end of it, but Jouon did play pretty well. But yes, it's a sport that's really like no other, isn't it? Absolutely. I mean, it's, those athletes are extremely skilled

1:24:55to be able to kick like that with either leg and to be able to run around and punch the ball while trying, while getting chased and tackled. It's incredible not to mention the cardiovascular and the physicality and the violence. I mean, it's got everything. Well, some of the top players run upwards of 20 kilometers each game, which is extraordinary. Like half a marathon. It's probably no surprise to you now why so many punters at college and even at the NFL level now come from Australia. They're players who perhaps haven't quite made the top level of AFL football here. But their kicking skills are amazing and it's working out well in American football. Well, we had we had one on the 49ers, Mitch Wieschowski. That's right. Was a yeah. So what I was thinking was I can understand you could probably make more money as a punter in the NFL, but it seems so much more fun to be a player in the AFL just because you get to do so much more than just come out and kick a punter ball four times again. Well, this is the thing. The skills and I actually grew up in America believe it or not. Although you wouldn't know it now, but we lived in Chicago.

1:25:58I don't know. Still Chicago Bay's support. Not that they've been any good for a long time. But the Australian rules every player has to be able to do everything. Kick goals, run, a handball, you know, it's not like American football where you have very specific skills depending on which position you play. Yeah, and in the NFL, it's extremely specialized. You only play offense. You only play defense and then the people on offense, some of them touch the ball, some of them never touch the ball. Like one of the best players in the 49ers is Trent Williams, his 3080 plays left tackle. He never ever ever touches the ball. Did some of their players like that in the AFL? Now, some of the other stuff I've done is you've been doing on social media revolves around food. I watched your video last night where you ate a cabab and you were surprised about what it was like and it was a bit different from what you expecting. So what are some of the food and drink that you've had here? Well, I've had a cabab and I didn't know what that was. In America, we had shish cababs which are like cubes of meat on all my goodness. I'm sorry.

1:27:01I'm in my hotel room and they're doing like a fire drill right now. I'm so sorry. Did it stop? Okay, I think it stopped. All right, I think I'm safe. Okay, so I had a cabab and I thought it was delicious and everyone said I have to go back and get an HSP which is sort of like a deconstructed cabab on chips. Is that correct? Yeah, it stands for Hull-All-Snack Pack, but it's essentially like an Arabic lunchbox, I guess. Okay, so I had that. I had fish and chips and the fish was flake, which I understand is shark, which I've never had in my life. It was delicious. What else did I have? I had a pot and a parma. So I think that's like your classic pub food. That was good too. And yeah, I had steak from Tasmania. I think that's I've done pretty well. You have. If I'm missing anything, well, I had vegetable might too. Yeah, and Vegemite isn't a quiet taste if you're not used to it. I had an American friend and he did know what it was. I told him it was like Nutella and he scooped it out of the jar and slatted it on a piece of toast and he bit into it. He was expecting a chocolate flavor and that's not what he

1:28:04got. What about coffee? Because you know, in America, like I'm sorry to say, it's we think your coffees are renders sitting there stewing away in a pot, often for hours at a time, where it's here, it's very much the Italian tradition out of an espresso machine. Have you gravitated towards their coffee? I love it. I do think the coffee in northern California is pretty good, but I got to say it's much better here. I've had the I've had the the the flat white and the long black and I love them both. And it is interesting to have all of them come from an espresso machine. I think we're more of like maybe a poor over society in in northern California. So maybe this gives me more of an appreciation for the finer coffees. Now, finally, the game itself. I don't know. This is the the first game in the regular season for these two teams. What are we expecting to see tomorrow? Is one of them a favorite or are they evenly matched or what? The Rams are the favorite. Even though they came late, even though they're not bringing Aaron Donald, who's one of their best players, even though they've been pretty casual about the whole thing, the reason they're being so casual is because they're the better team. They know it. The 49ers know it. Part of the reason the

1:29:07Niners came out here early is because the Rams are so tough. So I think I would still expect the Rams to win, although week one halfway across the world, it could be kind of flukely. I would expect it to be a pretty close game and maybe the best team doesn't necessarily win. But there's a reason why the Rams are coming so late. And finally, do you think the players will find it all playing in a stadium, which has such a large playing surface with the grid on your ground sort of stuck in the middle? It'll be odd considering the fans will be quite removed from the action. And I don't know if that will affect them. I think maybe it actually could help in a weird way because in football, there's so much verbal communication between each play. It's not a free-flowing game like the AFL mostly is. They have to stop and huddle and listen to the coach. And then they have to relay with the coach. It's like a game of telephone half the time. And if it's really loud and the fans are bearing down on them, that's an advantage for one team over another. So maybe that won't affect it too much. And maybe it'll really be like a truly a neutral site game as opposed to the

1:30:08Nainers having dominance. Well, last weekend, you saw 96,000 people at the Carthons for long game. You'll probably get close to 100,000 people tomorrow, which is a decent sized crowd. They'll make some noise. Look, thank you for your time. Enjoy the game tomorrow. And I appreciate you talking with us. Thank you so much and I sincerely apologize for the fire alarms. All right, so all of that safety ground cone there, NFL journalist, at 14 to 11. It is 10 to 11. Tide will take a look at an on deck, unsecured lightning loan for fast-moving small businesses go to on deck.com.au. Now, yesterday we spoke about the Cheltenham Golf Club getting, I think it's $60,000 for a golf simulator. And this morning we had a call from Ross, who's a member of the Glen Waverly Bowling Club, which uses that club as being given $70,000 to put lights over the pickleball court. Anyway, the swimming rail represents the statement. They say our community projects fund is supporting small-scale initiatives, including community gardens, constants, cultural festivals, and sports equipment for communities along the SRL corridor who are experiencing disruption.

1:31:14They go and say the community projects fund will cease at the completion of the current round, following the Victorian government's decision to make immediate savings of a billion dollars. So, okay, let's clear what it is. People along Cheltenham's Box Hill are being affected, they're having their lives disrupted by the suburban rail, the suburban rail, it was being handing out money. However, costs have to be cut, therefore, the money tap stops. Tony, good morning. Good morning, Tom. How are you? Good, Tony. Two quick points. When I was a naughty boy in the young garage, I lost my license in New Zealand. And I got to work while I was in it. It was 30 minutes. I could drive before my start time, and 30 minutes after my finish time. Now, if I worked overtime, I had to get a flip from the boss to say what time I finished. And that was my, that was only time I was allowed to drive, so that was about one hour a day. And also on the phones, I'm not sure which country, but I believe Europe,

1:32:17has their fines are based on your income in certain countries. Yes, you're right. I think, thank you for the coffee. Finland springs to mind. I don't know, I might be making that up, but it's one of the scandals sort of countries. They, they look at you at most recent tax return. And how much income was declared in it. I don't know how they get access to this, but they do. And there was a case of quite a wealthy businessman who was caught speeding. And his fine was like $50,000, because he was paid like a million dollars that year or something. So the fine was a proportion, not a set amount of money, a proportion of your annual income. And that was a very expensive speeding fine, but no, not all countries do it, Tony, but some do. I'll look it up and see if I can find out which ones. Thank you. Catherine, hello. Hi, Tom. How are you? Good, Catherine. I just wanted to touch on the point of more dimer at points for peace later. I must admit, I'm probably opposed to that. I'm not saying for full-wire friends that's a different story. I've got

1:33:20four boys. One's just become fully licensed. I've got two P-platers and one learner. And I see I really do think that they have, it's a time that they establish good practices in terms of their driving. And they do have to be super alert and super aware. And it gets up good, good, you know, good driving. So you're saying, so you're saying that Oscar Yilders are poised to give a P-plater up to nine dimer at points before they lose their license. You actually think that's too generous? Yes, yeah. I think that I've seen my boys, you know, say, I'll have, you know, you've got to be careful because if I lose that, I'll lose my license. And, you know, we're in country Victorian Warnable and they're at uni in Melbourne. So they need their license to come home. I mean, obviously, train or whatever. But also, I think that some, you know, younger children, younger people tend not to have a sophisticated cars and as expensive cars. And I think that they need to be cautious when they're driving.

1:34:21Well, that's true. Although we, having a less sophisticated car, I mean, you actually do concentrate more because you have to tell me, you, you sounds must be quite close in age if they're L's and P's and that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, they are. They're first three, like 15 months apart and then, but then nearly three years to the next one. Okay. All right, well, yeah, look, I, yeah, I do like, I'll separate from what you've just said to us, Catherine, I do like this idea of the work license. So it seems Queensland has it, Tazzy has it, New Zealand has it. I'm pretty sure we don't have it here. But, you know, for some people, like if you're an apprentice on a building site, if you lose your license, you pretty much lose your job. Unless you've got a parent who can drive you to work and pick you up each day with all the tools and so forth. And the idea that, okay, you can keep your job and you can drive, as we heard in New Zealand, you know, half an hour before you start time and half an hour after you finish time each day. So no recreational driving, no driving on the weekends, but you don't lose your job as a result of a speeding offense. I think that's a really, really good idea.

1:35:25And something we should consider here in Victoria at five to 11. On fines for speeding, we have an email from Bruno who says, if you do 10 kilometer over the limit, that makes money for the government. If you do 100 kilometers over the limit in a stolen car, no money for the government. Yes, Bruno, that is true. And again, I don't understand, we, we don't punish younger offenders who do horrendous things, but we do punish otherwise lower-abiding citizens who, you know, go marginally over the speed limit. I mean, it's ridiculous. Anyway, one of the three six time three mornings at 3aw.com.au coming up after news, which is next with David Armstrong. Apple has had one of the more interesting new tech releases last night. People have been waiting for this. It is a folding version of the iPhone. Also, sport with David the ox Schwartz. What sporting event anywhere in the world do you dream of attending? Like tomorrow's game at the MCG? Wonderful three, six, nine, three. Now across Victoria, mornings with Tom Aliens.

1:36:287 plus 11, if you're an Apple iPhone user and Apple's, I think I've got about 40% of the market here for smart phones. I guess I was exciting news last night for the first time for Apple. They've unveiled a foldable phone. Now, I think Samsung has had one for a few years now. Interestingly, not that popular. I think it only is 2% of Samsung's sales, or they're about. Apple's got high hopes for it. I'm interested in it because I have an iPhone which is a few years old. I have an ancient iPad which barely works anymore and I have an equally ancient laptop which doesn't really work all that well either. And I'm wondering whether this folding phone could take the place of all three. Anyway, I'll speak to you next but at the moment. And now we go. We spoke to Mary Rick Councillor Oskey Yilders. His running is an independent for the set of estimate in the upcoming state election. He's coming out with his own list of policies. And one of them is to increase the number of numeric points you can accumulate before you lose

1:37:29your license. So for full license holders, he wants to go from 12 to 18, which I would welcome. And he says even P-platters should be allowed to accumulate nine numerates before they face a lot of license. However, Suzanne is emailless mornings at 3aw.com. She says in the state where there is way too much crime, we shouldn't be weakening penalties for breaking any law. The driving rules are there to protect the community. We should have more numeric points, pill testing. That sort of thing. Well, sorry, I think nothing what she's saying is we have too many numeric points and we have pill testing and we have drug injecting rooms and we give out bail too often. She said our society is turning into one where no one is accountable. Look Suzanne, I do agree and I'm all for having harsher penalties for serious crimes. I think though that in an environment where the government doesn't maintain the roads properly and instead of filling in the pothole, they simply lie on the speed limit. I'm not happy that you know that I might get

1:38:32fined accidentally going over a speed limit which has only been decreased and this is what has happened to me because the road is in a bad state of repair. Fixed the roads and you know on open roads, let us drive at 100kmh. And Ben says, Sam some have had a flip and fold phone out for years. He says it's amazing, however it is quite heavy. One level 363 is the number to call. Escape your pricey telco. Visit amacem.com for affordable mobile plans. Gary, hello. Look you're talking about accountability. I don't for the life may understand why the government doesn't hold not only at least the same accountability for keeping the laws or breaking them as the public do. If anything they should be more accountable because they meant to send an example. As far as the speed limit is going the road and I don't know why this isn't brought up more. I've known for over the last few years the speed limit is being dropped all the time on roads

1:39:38that are perfectly safe, have no history of any incidents whatsoever. One example is Cuyon Road going through Corfield. I mean it's wide enough to take four lanes of traffic and they've gone and lowered it from 60 to 50 and they have mobile cameras set up there intentionally. It's obviously nothing to do with safety in what the river is. Fewer revenue rates. No Gary, I have spoken about that a fair bit and I agree. I think you know and where I live in the inner city of the cut speed limit is to 30 and that's on every road. It's absurdly low. And the problem is Gary there's two reasons. One is you're quite right. It's revenue raising. The lower the speed limit is the more speeding fines you're going to collect. And there is this safety argument that keeps getting trotted out saying, oh well if you strike a pedestrian at 50kmh they've got you know 70% chance of being badly injured or killed but if you're only doing 30kmh that percentage drops a lot which is true. But on that logic you might as well take the speed limit down to 10kmh or 5kmh or simply

1:40:41ban cars all together and that's ridiculous. Thank you Gary. Kim, hello. Good morning Tom. I just said you know 35 years ago in Tasmania I lost my license for drink driving and the company I worked for a small group of company was called a hardship license back then. We went to had to go to court and my employer had to swear that if I didn't get the license I would lose my job. And I'll read the license right between 6am and 6pm all northern Tasmania down the far as I can. So you're cutting out a bit of the camera. I think you're talking about this this concept of the work license. Look at I think it makes a lot of sense. We've learnt that Tazzy has it, Queensland has it and apparently New Zealand and the idea of being that if you absolutely have to so you can win the fence you lose your license but you can go to court and say I need to drive in order to keep my job and I think the state should want to

1:41:44make people unemployed. So you get a work license which limits you to driving you know essentially two and from work at set times of the day. See if it's a way to be in a very appropriate compromise. All right so tick nerds have been waiting for this for a while now Apple has not been to the folding phone but they've been working on it. They got beaten by Samsung and Apple has not had a big new product like its iPhones are progressively a bit better every generation but not noticeably differently. I was slightly faster processed as better cameras that sort of thing. But the the folding phone they call it the iPhone Duo looks to me looks interesting. So you fold it in half and it's like a chunky phone and then you unfold it and it's like a little iPad and it has this amazing feature where the screen and the middle can be in without breaking. Now I'm interested in it they're very expensive they range from three and a half to almost five thousand dollars but I'm wondering if this product could be a phone an iPad an laptop all rolled into one

1:42:48and excuse tick expert at Finder. Mariam Gabbagia good morning. Good morning how are you going? Good so it's a bit of a lot of hype over this this sort of folding iPhone. Yes it is something that Apple fans have been waiting on for years and I guess if you're in the Apple ecosystem and like you said you know you're on your you only see incremental upgrades and this is something completely new. If you're an Android user or if you've had something you've been used to different types of phones like Foldable and this is an interesting year because Samsung launched its first ever is that Fold 8 which is a passport size Fold so it to expand the market and make more people interested because the problem at Foldable has always been that they're just too bulky and Apple has sort of followed suit and done the same thing. Okay so I know I don't think you've actually been able to physically hold one yet because they're not in Australia but from what you've seen when it's folded in half will it work fine as a phone? Yes so I did get a chance I haven't

1:43:53obviously used the new iPhone joy yet but I've used a similar one from Samsung and it does work quite well and it's the first time ever part of that switching to Foldable and that's never happened before. Okay well what if you like me I mean I have an iPhone I have a very old iPad which barely works down I have a miniature laptop which struggles a bit too because it's got very old versions of offers and things on it and it's not powerful enough to have new ones. Could could this foldable iPhone do the job of all three could I have one device that sort of replaces a laptop and iPad and an iPhone? I think it can definitely do the job of replacing an iPad and if being an iPad and a phone in one a laptop it really just depends on how you how you go about your day and how much you're on the move as well if you want a form factor is important to you it will get the job done because I think that's the biggest thing that Apple's working on worked on is just making sure that both the screens work seamlessly together you're able to be productive use Apple

1:44:57intelligence features and all of that stuff. Are we confident that the screen which sort of somehow flexes in the middle where it falls? So if you do that tens of thousands of time over the years that it won't crack and break. The keynote that Apple gave this morning it was massively focused on durability obviously you won't know until you actually use the phone and test it out and it's the first one that Apple's come out with but they have mentioned the durability with the key focus when they were making the phone. Because I remember years ago when we still made cars in Australia I went to the Holden factory in Port Melbourne and they actually had like these machines that just opened and closed the doors and slamming them thousands of times in the road just to make just to see if the hinges could take it you know try to simulate you know 10 years worth of use in the space of an afternoon and you know every now and then the door came off and they knew that they had a problem. Okay well what about the price I mean the base one's three and a half grand that the one with the most memory is almost five thousand dollars. Is this overly expensive?

1:46:02It is it is Apple's most expensive iPhone 2 date for example the iPhone 18 Pro Max cost about $2,200 in this start at $3,499 so you there's a massive gap and just to put it more context the similar phone from Samsung starts at $2,699 so there it is quite expensive and might not suit everyone's budget. Yeah but again if it can replace two or even three devices it could be worth it. Yes you just have to understand what you're using it for why you need it and if you like you said if it's someone like you and you're trying to replace both your phone and your tablet and potentially your laptop because you prefer a smaller screen it could work. Now final question one of the big bug bears about Apple products is battery life I was really all phones but I mean like I have an Apple watch which is great but if you don't charge at each day it stops working

1:47:03and the phone you know I start the day with a full charge I need to charge it again by the end of the day. As Apple has done much to improve battery life and I'm guessing this this duo this this foldable fine will because it can do more stuff it will consume more more more power so have they have they upgraded their batteries? They do say that it can comfortably loss the full day so they've made changes to just the tech inside the phone to make sure that the battery life can do can last comfortably a full day. Again it's one of those things where you have to use it and see how it goes for the next couple of years but the tech has been improving here on year for example of I'm using last year's iPhone 17 Pro Max and the charge loss comfortably or a day and a half even when you're doing a lot of things. Okay I just thought I'd buy more question but for me it's important so I'm one of those people I always have a quite a chunky cover on the phone because I'd tend to drop them and otherwise they break. With the folding phone can you will you be able to get

1:48:04a cover which protects it from being dropped? Yes you should be you should be able to get it I think that's the thing that people want the most as well I can never get a phone without a cover so you will be able to get a case line from Apple to cover your phone. Okay thank you very time. Merriam Gabbagy, the tech expert at Finder and alcoholist to everyone who's not an Apple user but you know Apple's probably I think it's 40% of a smartphone market and and once you especially if you have a whole family if everybody has Apple devices it's very hard to leave because the device is all sort of communicate with each other and share contacts it's just a whole bunch of stuff and even if a Samsung is better or cheaper which they often are it's just too hard to shift which is exactly what Apple wants. The foldable iPhone called the iPhone Duo it is expensive the base model three and a half grand the top one I think is close to $5,000 and I'll be here for sale next month in October. One of the three six dime three mornings at 3aw.com.au back to call

1:49:07shortly the Ox Davids shorts were joined us after the 1130 news headlines what is the sporting event anywhere in the world you dream of attending? For example there's several people here who were taking the day off tomorrow they're so excited about going to an actual game of American football particularly one plate at the MCG what is the sporting event you dream of attending? Well look at that as well at 20 past 11. It is 23 past 11 just something this idea of a work licence so you commit an offensive series of offences on the road you you lose your licence but in some states and apparently in New Zealand you can go to court and ask for the right to drive two and from work each day but that's it so that you can keep your job. Kathy says if we did this we'd have to increase fines significantly otherwise risk taking would increase on the roads or maybe Kathy I think you know I mean if I could only drive two and from work that would be a substantial impost on my life and my families. Tammy joins us what have you seen Tammy?

1:50:12I just wanted to let you know Tom that the big road site is down in Victoria. What? This happened was it like a month ago that we had about a week long problem with the vicroids we have sight they upgraded something and it didn't work. Ah right well no we just took our sundown to get his licence he's out and they stopped him at the door and said there's no photo and we said well can we get a paper licence? No nothing nothing. Was your son disappointed? It's very disappointed he's taken a day off school for us. Okay yeah well the disc is there. Okay that's not good okay look thank you Tammy stay on the line we'll get the rest of your details I'm sorry for you and your son. It's not good enough from Vicroids I think it was actually about six weeks ago their website they didn't upgrade and the website didn't work for about five days if memory serves me correctly I know this because my daughter's also got her learners

1:51:12and one of the things when you have learners they log their drives and you have to approve it and you just couldn't do it for several days which was annoying. Anyway Tammy we'll check that out with Vicroids you could be in the running for the weekly prize we give it away roughly this time tomorrow the $1,000 of ours has been the imp jewelry and if you win that automatically you'll be in the running for the yearly prize 60 grand towards the Mercedes of your choice which is wouldn't you learn a permit son love to drive one of those from Mercedes being brightened they're the base sides trusted experts in luxury motoring Vince good morning morning Tom just ringing about the flip phone design my wife has one they're definitely a flawed design my wife's purchased hers about two and a half years ago she liked the idea of being able to make it a smaller item and just put it into a bag two and a half years into her own in this phone she noticed that the where it folds

1:52:16it started to show signs of disintegration and it finally froze we took it into Samsung repair shop in the city and when we when I had a chat to the gentleman in relation to the repairs he said that they it's a common issue with them and depending on the amount of usage which my wife's phone never leaves her hand yeah so it tends to eventually give away and once it does give away that's pretty much if you don't have warranty we we were very fortunate we took extended warranty it wouldn't have been worthwhile repairing the phone yeah okay so all right yeah see you you're being on Vince that's I've heard about this with Samsung and you don't think you've ever called you this is what would put me offered a bit because look if a device is truly useful and obviously mobile phones are smartphones and in my case if I could get one device that would be a

1:53:17phone a tablet and and maybe do the role of a laptop like you could have a little keyboard that goes with it I'd consider it even though they're expensive but if it's going to start splitting down the middle after two two and a half years that's no good I typically keep my phones for three to four years so that that that wouldn't work and I just I don't know it's not saying when there's a brand new thing out you don't want to buy the first version of it because there's always bugs you know you want to buy it later on when they've ironed those sorts of things out Alex good morning Tom Tom unlike you are I'm in the Apple ecosystem and I find it interesting at the present time where these things would be a real worldwide shortage of microchips this is where I want to upgrade my Apple laptop and I've played it plus in order for an Apple AI and it takes a month to get it delivered well you can't you can't just go and buy one off yourself no got a wait for a month

1:54:22so I oh the other the other um thing that's highlighted to me similar sort of situation was I'm looking at I've played for an order for a new Toyota RAV4 particular color and fit out and that was in May and I still can't get a confirmed production date of the delivery day I'm just wondering whether it's the microchip shortage for that as well well remember during the pandemic we had that problem that you know secondhand cars shot up in price because that they couldn't make new cars because there was just shortages of everything including chips and in fact there were there were some cars where they they dumped them down a bit they they removed some of the technology in them so the car wouldn't need as many chips so did you reckon a similar thing is happening Alex absolutely and I reckon there's an increasing cost for the sake of a new Apple iPhone's etc it's because there's a there's a um an extra tax on the microchips all right I'll look into it it's it's possible I mean the world has sort of slowed down a bit because of the conflict in the Middle East but I don't see that that would affect microchips I mean what most of

1:55:27the world's microchips come out of either the US or China or primarily out of Taiwan it's something that Taiwan just leads the world in I will look into the Alex I again and and and let's share actually ordering these things you wouldn't notice it my guess is with the new Apple duo this is the flip phone thing that like you get a tell like tell us to be one of the biggest sellers of these things in Australia if not the biggest you know that they will get stock and they'll be prioritized by Apple we'll see thank you Alex Tracy hello Tracy dropped out Sam good morning hello Sam how are you Tom yeah good just going going back to the numeric points I was in Italy last year speaking to cousin that and they said their license works much the same as ours but if they don't get caught in a year they actually get points back so they could have their license start with say

1:56:2712 points they could end up not caught for yeah I think I think I think actually Sam I think they do that new South Wales believe it or not they they have a thing where if you go a certain amount of time and and you don't get any points you start losing points I'm pretty sure in Victoria your points last for three years it's something like that so if you get a point you don't lose that point until three years as expired I'll look into it Sam thank you news headlines and half us eleven with David Armstrong David good morning good morning the news at midday the LA Rams are settling into Melbourne there is a huge party I think they call them a tailgate party there's a party underway and virgins of the NCG sitting in the back of a well a pickup truck or Kia reparket from the newsroom is down there lapping up all of the color and flavor that is the NFL of course you have to plan tomorrow it's a 10 30 kickoff at the G if you've got a ticket I'll be here you'll be here as well when do you start it's a bit like grandfinal

1:57:29day when do you have your first I don't know when you were by there's some sort of concert as well but I think that's at half time it's the Jonas Brothers who they I've got no idea it's not Donnie and Marie no I don't know the Jonas Brothers but excited about the NFL more and raises the retaining mocle more excited about the planes that are going to be on show the fly over yet we've got the roulette yeah have you seen the US Marine Corps osprey yes it's sort of a cross between the helicopter and a plane it is and and they they pretty much replaced helicopters in the Marine Corps by using those mind blowing four of them I think they're having a practice run this afternoon at two but they'll be there tomorrow the most amazing looking aircold I think you're too complicated well because if you're going to fly in battle David yes you've got to be able to machine us to take damage and still function oh they look yeah and having these giant engines that flip and fling whatever it takes off like a helicopter and then it's

1:58:29of transitions into level flight who came up with that it's like origami planes it's amazing the federal opposition will not support Labor's digital duty of care legislation as it stands coalition says it gives the communications minister who is anica wealth she compared houses to ushe's a couple of weeks ago well it's they suggest it gives her way too much power to order the removal of content claiming it is a threat to free speech but for example she might hear that I've been quite critical of her and I just banned me from the anything that involving me banned it from the internet you could be removed from the algorithm yeah that's right erased trump a polluza's underway do you know what this is no these are the midterm a convention that's being held for the Republican Party in Texas mr trump needs to reset his party because if they lose control of be at the house or the Senate they could find themselves done a little bit of difficulty and all eyes on selection for tomorrow nights we forget the airfield it's getting swamped by the inner field well I forgot because my team's not in it no

1:59:32neither is yours the cleaning out at the kennel free matel and jolong the cats could recall Sam DeColin to the team they'll be a good game it will be finals hard all of that it'll be done now you say you're not familiar with the work of the Jonas Brothers not not one bitch he's a song called year 3000 by them yeah he said I can see the year 3000 number she's saying but there is no new water right remember in the 60s that they had you know in the year 25 25 well they're just copying that it sounds like Alvin and the chipmunks all right it is the Jonas Brothers speaking of brothers the ox david swords is next what sporting event do you dream of attending we've got people here who are taking the day off tomorrow that they are so excited the prospect of going to an actual NFL game one of the three six nine three at 26 to midday it is uh 22 to midday we were talking about the new apple duo this this folding phone Irene says

2:00:34we think phone theft will rise and uh Justin says in Sydney they place clear signs letting you know that there was a speed camera head yeah they do Justin and I like that like if you're warned there is a speed camera great you know to slow down but of course here they're sneaky Justin and Irene thank you for the emails now on three a w mornings but it ain't about how hard you hit it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward that's how we did it start sports with david the ox wards so for a lot of people uh tomorrow's NFL game first one in Australia regular season NFL game and it's at the MCG is the stuff of dreams um Richard Stan's pre who's just come back from six months of paternity leave even though his youngest child is about four years old now is taking tomorrow off because he's obsessed with American football Eddie Summerfield who commentates on sport is also taking the day off because he wants to go to the MCG and watch the Rams take on the 49ers and it makes

2:01:38this one to like what what what is a sporting event that you dream of attending one day david the ox wards good morning good morning Tom the NFL is not one of my dreams um but I don't know why it's just not my cup of tea but that's okay everyone's got their own love this isn't their own desire that is not fun am I what are you going well now I'm not because it starts at 10 30 and I'll be here working as you would imagine but it's funny I've only been to one NFL game and uh and it was in in uh Buffalo upstate New York and it was in November it was freezing cold and we we sat outdoors and I sat you know right up in the nose blade seats and frankly you can't really see what's going on and my eyes were better than they are now you know that the ball they they hide where the ball is and and you know when we were like it seemed like we're about 150 meters away from the game and I it sort of put me off going to an NFL match after that it is about their match itself was about the whole experience so if you go around the MCG

2:02:43pressing to the moment it is it's accountable it's um a spirit the build up I gather you would never at every home game or every game you go to but when it's a one off like this in Melbourne or you know an international event I think the event itself would be a lot bigger than just you know the three hours you know there's there's the cheerleaders I guess I'll have some sort of fireworks having planes flying overhead there's half time into time it like it it it seems more like a grandfinal than just a regular season gap yeah I think it is yeah there's some mic over three I was thinking about this um as I'm growing up the Hume um I want to go to a sumo wrestling competition okay if you don't like American football because there's a lot of standing around and not much action you will hate sumo that they can go on for several hours then the fight itself takes five seconds I know but what they've been good just to go and it happens every second number I think in Japan to try and get a ticket is near on impossible but you've probably seen

2:03:48something you'll never ever see again which is two boats um quite a bit 800 pounds between them and they're just trying to get each other outside the one of you call it the ring and I think I think from a culturally uh extravaganza and something very unique I would pay big money to get on see that okay well I'd think about this as well I would like to go to Ireland and see that the Gallic football final at Croke Park I I've I have seen Gallic football and of course we have every now and then we have that international rules thing but a pound of the Irish go berserk it's it's an unusual game it's you know sort of similar to Aussie rules but different of as well and a pound of the Irish are very very passionate about it like we are here with Fuddy I would like to go to Croke Park and see the all I think it's called the all-island final of Gallic football yeah yeah I haven't been to one myself but I've been over there when one's been on and it's just the whole play stops like it is absolutely enormous um I think going down to Monaco for the

2:04:54Formula One Grand Prix pretty cool to do now I I was lucky enough to do that in the 1980s when Senna was going around the track and I'll tell you what's amazing the French don't really build or the the monogasks I think they're called don't really believe in safety I said at a cafe which is about one and a half meters from from you know from the corner where the cars were you couldn't hear you so I think and there was like basically a little fence there and that was it we were kind of like killed and because it's a street course so people just sitting restaurants and then cafes and the cars are literally right next to you and it's extraordinary yeah I'd like to see it on a boat it goes there's about 30 boats lined up if you can happen to snaggle a ticket to that I think that would be money can't buy but um yeah I'm president company as well for golf I think would be enormous to go I'd like to get out to say the president's company in Europe so you head over to um Europe and watch um watch the Europeans make the Americans I

2:05:54think that would be unbelievable as well all right come and join us what is the sporting event anywhere in the world that you dream of attending for a lot of people saying a regular season NFL game right here in Melbourne is the stuff of dreams the MCG will be absolutely packed tomorrow morning we have two bottles of wine to give way to our best cooler between now in the midday news uh to borderleys ancient soils heathcut greenhouse come and join us by double three six nine three the ox is going to stick around at a quarter to twelve it is uh 13 to 12 whether now for Roth Newton they're 20% off lounge sweet sellers on now 20% off lazy boy IMG and Australian made lounge sweet it is currently 14 degrees our forecast top is 15 sporting events you dream of attending tomorrow's regular season NFL game at the MCG is the stuff of dreams for many people uh Robin good morning good morning Tom I've just pulled the trigger on four tickets to center court wimble the next year and they were six thousand dollars each how many tickets did you buy?

2:07:00four two once a month myself and the kids are our adult children coming with it you're going to treat yourself a like fly business class to England as well well we do but the kids are in the back yeah that's the way it should be what do you reckon ox 24 thousand dollars for four tickets to center wimble the so is that the final? I don't know but yeah but I mean have you been to wimble the nox is that something you would do? yeah yeah I have I might say I did Silverstone and uh wimble in the same year and um it was it was good it was good but I'm not not a massive on tennis but it was a great experience but way away uh so I didn't go to the court I was I was out on court 30 or whatever it was so uh um that's um at the hefty price tag is it 24 thousand? I mean do you think it's that much better to go to wimble than say just going to the Australian open here in Melbourne I mean it's the same tennis players by and large yeah I think it's the experience it's the home of canvases that it's the

2:08:02the oldest you know most historic most traditional tournament with dot so yeah it's um and the Swarbracing cream of really nice yeah but you can have Swarbracing cream here Mark doin just Mark go ahead good morning Tom and ox how you going um still I'm lucky enough to have been to see the Super Bowl back in 91 Super Bowl 25 so um yeah it'll be me to make pre-internet booked it booked it um over the phone I think it cost 250 dollars for the game ticket and we had a sporting holiday we went through a four-in-a-peel game and the ice hockey but um my sporting um yeah the sporting team I'd love to do I've got two one is to go to the Essen TT in Holland the made a GP but the big one I want to go to France and watch a uh Alpine stage of the Tour de France at Alpe de Weez that it can be awesome do you want to do a lot of middle-aged men in Lycra so-called mammals actually they ride they follow

2:09:05the Tour de France they actually ride the course on their bikes just not as quickly do you want to do that or you just want to sit there and watch it um I did that when I was a young fella I'm a bit past that and probably a bit too chunky for going up the hills and mountains like that but I just like to sit on the side of the road with a million other people going crazy watching the riders go by I mean are going to be awesome yeah but what about you Ox? Have you ever found yourself intrigued or interested by cycling yeah I was I was riding to Alpine so Armstrong was flying and um you know and almost you know of that era but I just can't stand those clowns on the side of the road you know where someone's got their handbag and they get caught in the handlebars and they jump out in front and they follow the riders up and they're in their faces I just I don't like it I think it's an acne part of the sport but I love I actually love the sport itself right Kim good morning guys I would honestly love to go to an AFL Grand Final I've never been I wouldn't care

2:10:08who was playing I'd just love to go to the atmosphere yeah hoodie beric for Kim Richmond yeah well well you had a few chances um yeah Ox? I mean I'm lucky being an MCC member you can you can actually just rock up and you know about about one quarter of a chance each year to get seats and you know when my dad was president of Carlton he always got seats I've been lucky to see a few but that I love Grand Final day I just I just think it's well it's obviously the pinnacle of our competition but there's just I get more excited about that than just about any other sporting event I can think of yeah I love the same I'm a Grand Final for me is with friends and family at home I would rather watch it at home and have the barbecue and and building comfort not have to put up with pelicans besides that have no ideas so um now give me Grand Final at home oh pelicans what say you like it when when people sit there and listen and you explain the intricacies of the game because you understand a bit of the net now I just had a noxious support as he

2:11:09don't know the rules and he beg your own place all right well don't sit next to me good you came you got two bottles of the board these ancient soils heathcare grannesh coming your way with a quick look ahead to the afternoons program Tony Mochley good morning I can't be quick it's too big a show we're talking about the NFL do we need more things like it I'll be speaking to the NAB about that and the new iPhone has just dropped $2,000 in America how much is it here Tom three and a half to almost five grand correct why do we pay an Aussie tax Neil Mitchell Neil wants to hear from the there is a difference in the exchange right I get that but it's still bonkers our Neil Mitchell wants to hear from the forgotten people in crime you've heard from all the lobbyists the figures are getting worse if you were the victim of any crime Carthept Burglar your graffiti whatever it might be call after 12 30 Bill Bailey a great UK comedian will be joining me kev poulton there'll be travel with jammo and your chance to win a $700 power drill good stuff Eric Sighting the stuff of many many means dreams of power drill

2:12:14Tony Mochley are there straight after the midday news let's go in the couple more calls Ryan what's your sporting dream I'll get off me in terms of time time list the first time mate the sports for me in Melbourne you got the grompry it's happening over in Malaysia the shelter of Malaysia's organised the king of bay round to move it over there this year in November in Saipan it'd be nice to go over there by brother and law we've tried to arrange some tickets $10,000 US is all that's remaining to be sold over there so to go to a formula one grompry 10 grand we've been in Melbourne so Tristan I've got the mini countrymen and the car club we put 10 cars on display there each year you know have they line them all up different car clubs and we've experienced some Melbourne grompry it was it was wonderful but before I let you go the city has come alive I'm the new birdie driver and they're driving around meeting people of swan there's so much happening so much excitement you know you look at the Pilates on the turn if you've

2:13:17got the the kaibe dover stakes that's Flemington kids for the at marvell stadium that be and no it's a it's a good point right I mean I mean look Melbourne does this sport better than anybody don't reox yeah we do and it is but they got lucky with the NFL we know game-being is this weekend so they've got the whole mcg the whole weekend to themselves the build-up has been astonishing and it's just supporting the Rams we can get out of here a bit earlier and promote it like the 49ers definitely yeah I think the Rams have missed a trick here I know for them that they've put their own way of preparing and they reckon it's better just to turn up 24 hours before the the game and just not even get over the jet lag but I think the effort the 49ers are putting in putting on the cheerleaders and the players going to things and whatever I think I think they've won people's hearts haven't they yeah they have and I think even other Rams's favorites they've got a really hard draw once they get back and San Fernando got three home games after this one I think the support that the 49ers will get on the back of this new members new

2:14:19support is invaluable all right well over there ox good to talk to you David the ox forts back same time next week at five to 12 it is almost per day that means this show is over for yet another day but for your not you have news in the moment with Jordan tumourage following that of course after the ensuing turning mode clear in the running for the weekly win in the street prize we give it away this time tomorrow is Ross who told us that the bowling club of which is a member the Glenn Waverley bowling club have been given $70,000 from the suburban rail lift to put lights over their pickleball quarter and this has been confirmed by the suburban rail lift they have a thing called the community projects fund it's also put $60,000 into the Cheltenham golf club however all this is in now because Ben Carroll is trying to save some money got an heurus the weekly prize is the $1,000 out to the spend it in per jury then of course there's the yearly prize $60,000 towards the Mercedes Benz of your choice thanks to our great friends and Mercedes Benz Brighton enjoy the afternoon talk to you again tomorrow morning at 8.30 bye for now