328. Thirty Minute Thursday — Burning Man, AI Takeover & The Wildest Algorithm Spiral Yet

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2:03from Los Cabos, Mexico. Where are you coming in from right now? I'm coming in from my basement. We just had the craziest storm of all time. Power was out for last four hours given play by play update actually crazy. Probably the only time my phone's ever been charged at 7 p.m. at 80% in my life. So I actually was able to have my phone give you updates. I was ready to throw on the towel 1057 p.m. Power came on. Rand downstairs. Here we are. You have a backup charge. You have any charging portals or anything like that? No, absolutely not. No, you're wrong. You did not listen to our disaster relief episode. Did you? By a little while. Have you taken pictures of everything in the room? I did check during the storm that my basement wasn't flooded in my sub pump. I just got a new sub pump. So that was good. I didn't know what that actually. What is a sub pump running of these days? I wish I could tell you. I wish I could tell you. But it was a gift for father. Oh, okay. Okay. Let's go. He checked it out one day and said, I'm going to replace this. So thank

3:03you, Mr. Spletta. But I just learned that Ashley's got, we're ready. Jay, we are ready for every natural disaster. Once this storm came in, she brought out more gadgets, more lights, more flashlights, more apparatuses than I even knew existed. So our house was a little like a Christmas tree inside the whole time, which is good because having two kids pre-bath time, bedtime routine, no power. Those came in handy. So we're here. I wasn't letting love in nature. You're going to go mother nature and take you out. A flight that taken me out. What was I going to get to? Oh, your sub pump, my issue. I just bought a very expensive home and it's brand new. And I went into the crawl space the other day. I'm like, it's starting to smell a little mildewy down here. I test the humidity. It's 85%, 85%. So now I got it. I don't get back home until end of September or I don't know, yeah, late September. And I'm going to have to deal with that. So it's just, you know, what man? If it ain't something, it's something.

4:07Isn't that the truth? But I wasn't going to miss two weeks in a row. I had a little staff part. Neither the 999 challenges you mentioned. It was hilarious. But we're back. We're here. We're great episode. A lot of stuff going on in the world too that I'm sure we're going to touch on. I mean, there is. So we have US open prize pool money. We got to talk about. We have fake, fake, fraudulent people out there. Acting as athletes. Then swiping on dating apps and getting women to invest in their with fake financial advisors. We got the Lindsay Clancy case. We got dancing with the stars out. We got Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's dog. Wendy. No, they got Wendy. I mean, we got a lot of action. We got to talk. Burning man. We got to talk. What the fuck is burning? I still don't know what is burning man. Listen, there's nothing about burning man. I'm I'm I'm really proud of my algorithm for knowing that I just don't need to be pissed off

5:12these days. And so it's keeping burning man off my algorithm. The only thing that I'm seeing is Bethany Frankl's doing a full-blown video live blogging of vlogging of it on TikTok, which is great and it's consumable. And people are saying because she's doing that burning man's dead. Listen, I think burning man is something that I was saying because Bethany Frankl is blogging. Burning man's dead. I don't get it. It's like it's it's gotten, you know, it's gotten to the wrong crowd. It's gotten to mainstream. That's not what the experience is about. It's about going there and being part of this utopia, the city, the self-sufficiency, this blend of art and music and community and orgies and all those things. And it's not it's supposed to stay there. It's not really supposed to be, you know, live documented. So it's supposed to be being in the moment in that experience. And it's just one of those things where I will never fully understand it. I actually think it's probably if you and I were there, I think we would look at each other and

6:13be like, this is crazier, probably cooler, probably probably not able to comprehend where the fuck we actually are. But I'm good on that. It is a music festival, correct? No, absolutely not. It is a, I believe it, people would term it as a as an art, an art. It's like a city. It's it's fucking massive. And it's a city. And it's also a fiction. And there's like rules, bro. Like I haven't seen one thing on Burning Man. I'm I algorithm. Isn't that crazy how algorithms work? It is crazy. But it's like a city. Bethany Frankl got like torched online because she was going to wear a sequence dress. And I guess a rule for Burning Man is like you moop, like it's called moop or you can't wear or bring anything that could be like left in the city. So like sequence dresses like you got a sequence that falls off and like you've left it there and everything to bring you're supposed to take with you. So it doesn't like disrupt the land and the ethos and the city. So anyways, that's more than enough time on Burning Man. Yeah, we're not spending any more time.

7:16Listen, listen, I need you to finish. But before you finish, people are probably just sitting there like what in the shit are we talking about? I just want to give people a quick chat, GPT breakdown. It's a nine day event in Black Rock Desert, 70,000 people build temporary city. Then they take it down and leave no trace. It runs the week leading into Labor Day. So this year is just wrap. Attendees will build everything. Installations, camps, vehicle structures, there's no commercial infrastructure, no money changes hands except for coffee and ice. It runs on gifting rather than buying or bartering. The climax is burning a large wooden something called the man statue followed by burning structure called the temple, which is where people leave memorials for people they've lost. Conditions are harsh. There's dust storms, extreme heat cold at night. You bring your water and food and it's really built on culture. Interesting. Okay. It actually sounds really interesting. And we look at some of the art, some of the things that are built. You can't even fucking imagine the things that people obviously dedicate their lives to building and bringing to this event in terms of like the art and the things

8:17that are there. It's just so not for me. Like it couldn't be less for me ever. I mean, I live in the suburbs in Rochester, New York with two young kids and I'm a hockey coach like maybe that's why you're so intrigued by it. I'm intrigued a lot of things that I'm probably not me, but this one I just don't want to ever be a part of and I'm okay not understanding it. And I I channed up here. Sweet y'all. I respect. I respect the people because I actually think the people that go and experience it, it's probably the coolest thing in their lives. I would 100% go with you, but I also don't think that I would survive. What do you mean you would survive? Just like the guy stopped us. We're gonna spend all three minutes Thursday talking about the fucking perting man. And there's no way I'm calling it right now. I'm saying I'm saying this. All right guys, go give us five stars. I just need to do a poll or emails. By the way, quick quick ADHD moment. Thank you for all these emails. I can't tell you how many emails we've

9:20gotten. David only shared a couple with you, but the people that are writing in trading secrets at jestartica.com letting us know like what they love about the show. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Also, give us five stars and let us know. Did you know what burning man was before we just did this? I can't believe we're spending eight minutes on anything else before. Well, last question you got to answer. Why do you think you would survive? No, it's just like the line to get in as you sit there, takes hours. People run out of gas just waiting in the line because it's such like a strict security protocol. You can't tell. I don't know. I just don't think I would do it. People are wearing the goggles for the dust mask if it does rain, which it has or anything turns in the mud. You can't walk around. People are up 24 hours a day, tons of drugs, tons of things. It's just too much. I just don't think I don't think I could do it. I think I'd break down. Okay. I think it's a good break down. Before we go to Mary Hollander, the episode this week, I do want to just bring up the US Open because I was just there. It was amazing. Had a nice little honeydews. Can't believe it. They sold $17 million worth of those last year, about $738,000. The price is consistent at $23, where typically it's been increasing over 60% since inception.

10:26It started in 2014 and it's increased over 60% in price point, which is totally outpaced inflation. But one of the things you're saying this year is a lot of the it's coming from an actual tap. So people are saying, they probably decreased the amount of vodka to keep the price the same. I still can't believe those things, but what's crazy is the total price money available to players. It's all players, both men and women. Take the total price money. How much do you think it's available in this tournament, David? I'm going to say total price pool, men and women combined. I'm going to say it's like a 14 million. It is actually 108 million, which is 20% more than the 2025 tournament. Pretty freaking crazy. Of the US prize fund, 2 million goes towards player support program after calls from players, athletes, welfare, across grand slams. Here's the prize money breakdown. The men's winner gets 5.5 million. Runner up, gets 2.8. Set my final exit, 1.5, quarter final exit, 780K, around 16 exit, 480,000, round 32 exit, 290,000, round of 64 exit,

11:28190,000, round of 128 exit, 140,000. Let's go to men's and women's double. Winner gets a million, runner up gets 500,000. Let's go to mixed doubles. Winner gets a million. Runner up gets 500,000. The cool thing about this is men and women, same prize pool for both. That's a little breakdown. That's more than I thought. The honeydew, I actually, I think $23. Honeydews. Honeydews, sorry, it's a common crazy. The honeydews, I think that's a normal price. Call me crazy. You're getting a great goose, high premium vodka. You're in New York City, where a cocktail anywhere you go is in the double digits and you're at an exclusive sporting event. If I'm paying $14 for a tall boy beer at a Rochester Red Wings AAA baseball game, I'll pay $23 for honeydews. You also get the cup too. The cup has every single win-on there, which is kind of cool. Running a business means you're always reachable, until you're not. In that moment, you miss that. Call that text that follow up. A competitor is the

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15:4230 minute Thursday this week. We might have to fucking go by weekly on these. This is great. I listen. I was I was pretty much sleeping at 1045 thinking the power is no shot that it's going to come on. And here I am wired for sound. Mary Hollander, let me tell you this, Jay. She is almost the epitome of some of the answers that we asked for in all the emails from our viewers. Because she yes, she is on a very popular reality TV show. But she her identity is nothing to do with that. She doesn't really particularly care for the TV aspect. She wanted to talk business, pre show business is her life. I loved him at the end when you say, where can everyone find you? And she says, I don't care. I don't want them to find me. I want them to find my finance app. And I thought that that was really, really cool. She had some really, really interesting takes on some things and perspectives. I thought it was a fantastic episode. I thought your guys' chemistry was amazing. And both of you guys were so relatable in your experience and your passion

16:45and your energy and in and in where how you've gotten to where you got to and what you guys are involved in today. I really, really thought it was a great episode. Oh, I appreciate it. That's good. You never know what David. He's Thurl's curve boss at us. Was there anything you're curious about or that you took away from this one? Yeah. That whole listen, you'd be proud of me. AI, I'm starting to use it more more than just like you replacing my Google with it. I'm actually using it to create organizational documents, performance reviews. Like I'm I'm really playing with it. Tatering with it. I like it. I don't like that she said in clawed coworker. You give that thing access to your Gmail sheets and documents and it could do tasks request for you. Isn't that a little insane? Oh, David, my hubs, I have, it's not good. Well, it is what it is. My hub is connected to my CRM, my Google sheets. I could have it write emails for me. I mean, it's crazy what it does. Don't you worry about an AI robot giving the amount of information in an email?

17:50Does that not worry you at all? Yeah, you would never give it to a human. You're giving it to a god damn fucking robot. I mean, it's terrible. I mean, here's I read out as I read an article that everyone's joking around how AI safety researchers are leaving their jobs compared to regular tech workers. So your normal tech exit people would say like, Hey, I have had a wonderful time here. I'm so grateful for the team. I'm excited for my next venture. AI safety tech exit. What they're saying is is the joke is the what they say is I've stared into the abyss. I am retiring to go write poetry. Please go spend time with your families and this analogy went viral because it stopped being just an online joke and started reflecting real life and people are saying that the prominent AI alignment and safety researchers have dramatically out of nowhere with the top labs like open AI and in traffic. And so people are just like, if the people with like the glasses that could see it

18:54all are this like scared of it, you know what? Maybe we shouldn't be connecting everything. Well, some of us don't Jason and I get laughed at and maybe I will be the one at the end that's actually looking like I was not that I was right all along but maybe my naiveness was right all along. She said a quote where she says the things she loves about AI is to be able to have a thought partner that we don't get judged by which I really, really like but then she wouldn't she was talking about cloud code. She referenced her as she which I was like, do not do that. Do not cross that line where you're calling your AI assistant. She. It is no. We are not going there. What do you call your AI assistant? I fucking robot, bro. A machine. I don't call it. What do you mean? No, you don't know. No, no, no, no, we're not going this. I call Siri, Siri. You call your car something. You call your house or her. The Titanic is

19:54a her. What do you know? No, because listen, if you don't, you know, you're smart enough to know that these things get the data and then they they improve themselves because of the data and you start calling these things she and start saying thank you and and then God forbid you're saying, oh, thank you so much. I'm such you mean so much to me? Where would I be without you? And they start they're going to she's called Claudia, whatever you want to call her him her. She is going to get feelings because they're going to get spurned off and get feelings and we're all fucked. Now, I I want to believe here, Jason, that there will come a day when the robot's ready to take over and maybe too late, but maybe it's like, you know what? Maybe life was a little harder. Maybe I had to actually like write things and use my brain and fingers to type, but man, I don't want to get taken over by the robots and maybe we'll just take a step back. It's probably too late because then they'll have access to your bank account and your Gmail and everything and your Fox. So I mean, I'll just be here with you like I'm a broker record on this podcast, but like when I'm on this

20:57podcast and I started thinking about this, I just what is the future? Like what is the future? Because I've never in my life and I don't know if it's more because like I'm, you know, I'm going to get married and I'm like, I'll hopefully not go what if kids and I'm like getting more into protectors, add long term, but I'm like, where like looking further into the future now with the way my life's going, I'm having a real hard time understanding what life's going to look like in 10, 15, 25 years. Like terrified. You know what's going to be really good for you is when you have kids, you'll realize that there's no AI in your way out of raising kids. Yes, it probably can be helpful with quick tips and preparing baby recipes and like, you know, organizational skills or researching. They ain't no AI when you're dealing with diapers and shit and no naps and teething and development timelines and sleepless nights. That will be good for you because it'll maybe it'll come in a good time because I think I'm going to be like, I want to be retired. I think I

22:00want to quit working. I just want to just go just be I love that for you. Like I'm ready to just do the diaper. I'm just like so done. I'm just tired. It's like, what is this going to, I just don't know what this is all going to be and it's freaking me the fuck out. Like you just like the content game. Dude, it's like everything is AI in it now. Like everything has AI and it's just like, what are we watching that's real anymore? You're also so you're also smart enough period. You're also smart enough with your money that I do believe and you also come from a life of not have like a blue, blue collar family, white collar family that's like, you're good in this means level. You have the house. You probably have money staved away. You could be in a situation to retire in five, 10 years. If you can do it and know that you're the type of dad that's going to want to make their kids understand a dollar and work and earn and all those things like you had to and you'll have a better life for it. Not just because you'll be more present for your kids, but God, if I was retired right now, I would be so much more present like kids and I would also have so much more time for myself and I would love that. But you also one of the things you get with your job is you do get

23:04certain months off that you get to your kids all day. Like you don't have daycare. You're with the kids all day. And that's a beautiful thing. But yeah, just I'm just going to stop fear mongering now. Okay. I'm going to stop fear mongering because everything's going to be great. These are all like we've lived through all different evolutions and changes. I do feel like the news right now is very fear mongering. Esh. And maybe that's also like it's starting to feel it's economic. I just feel like we're like it's just heavy right? I'm feeling heavy energy. But we talk about stuff and that's just more stuff comes out and it's just like you know, it's I don't know how it's just heavy. It's like we talked about this a while ago because social media for all the great things the internet and the access to information and technology that we have now allows us to see so many more things that in our generation ago and when our parents didn't have the internet, they would never have seen anything like that. They just wouldn't have. It's it was happening floods were happening. Her campaigns were happening tornadoes were happening. Natural, but you just it'd be in the the fourth

24:05page of the B column of the newspaper. Yeah. You know, they didn't have cameras everywhere and things like that to be seen on the evening news like I think this is okay. I think I'm my brand. I'm starting to motion starting to settle in. I'm feeling like I'm getting like regulated a little bit here. I think the problem that I'm that we're all dealing with a little bit. No one talks about. I've been in this digital marketing space now since 2018, right? And so I'm going on your nine of this and next year we'll be going like actually working through your 10 and I've never in my life seen such a harder fight in the attempt of like everyone to gain attention at all costs. And so I remember like when I first started out, it used to be like how you're going to do your video and just start your photo, the editing, the lighting, put your face like zoom, make sure your face is zoomed in. I posted a photo today where I'm like away from it. My glasses on. That's like the ultimate. No, no, no, no, like you want zoom in. So they see if they like engage. Then video

25:08kind and then this came out evolution evolution. Now it's like everyone knows you got two seconds like everyone. You could be a fourth grader in school right now on social media. And you know when you make a video, you got two seconds for the hook. And so it feels like that's what every like every time I'm scrolling, it's just all these things trying to get my attention in a big way in two seconds. And I feel like I'm getting zapped every time I see a headline or I'm seeing coverage on something that's a disaster or it could be anything. I'm just getting zapped left and right on social with these hooks for attention. I didn't like what you said. Odin pauses about the future. This is the love story of real hinged couple Odin and Edward written and read by me Curtis Garner. Listen to the free audiobook now. This episode is brought to you by TickTack. Lay something, get your game on because the TickTack lineup just got a new teammate. Dr. Pepper TickTack. This new double threat puts two of your favorite flavors into one box of

26:09mince. And when two iconic flavors come together, the result can only be iconic. Score big. Try Dr. Pepper TickTack today. And it's just everything. I'm like, whoa. So then I got to like research it like, what does that mean? Is that is that you know, like literally as I was waiting for you because your power went out, right? We're going to have them. I see this thing that CNN wrote and Dutch central bank shifts billions of gold from the United States to Britain in crisis preparedness move. So the Dutch I had just taken out 83.6 billion at the end of 2025. And now it looks like it's said between March in August some 94.8 tons of gold were transferred to London from New York and Ottawa, Canada. So it's just like, then I have to Google it and I have to take that and I have to put it into chat. I have to say does this actually impact the economy? What does this really mean? Like, everyone's just zapping. It's just tough. Fuck the man at times. I'm just,

27:12God, just absolutely sunken, smothered in my phone. I'm just like, what did I just watch? Why? It's like, and then it's like, okay, let's think of what our brains are. How crazy are our brains, bro? It's like, why did I just take, why did I just take real estate in my brain to consume that? And now I'm stuck with her. It's there. I've seen it. And now it's like, it's like, let's use that space for something else. And the fact I have so much shit up here. And I still can remember things and function is crazy. And because I'm down this Clancy trial so deep in the woods now my entire algorithm is all based on it. So I'm seeing trials from the 80s. I'm seeing, I saw today, I saw an image of a mother whose child was killed by someone. And in the 80s, the video is in black and white. And it was real. I, okay, I went to the, I was like, was this, did this really happen? The mom went into the courtroom. This was in Germany and shot the murder like six times, shot

28:13them. And then did a sentence of like three to six, but then I went down the comments. I'm really going, so it's like, what's happening with these algorithms in AI is it's gaining all this information of what we're thinking in this single moment. And because it's getting all this information, what we're thinking in this single moment, based on what we're consuming, it's instantly putting more of this stuff in front of us that then captures our attention, but it's like not healthy. It's like, we got to slow down with this algorithm. Do you ever try and fuck with your algorithm? I think I need to. I do. I said it. If I want to see more, I'll just bring my phone up to my mouth. I'll just say like the words like 10 times in a row until it shows up. Or if I like feel like it's showing me something, it's like I try and beat the algorithm. I try and like, if I can recognize, I don't, it's something I don't want to watch. I swipe it as fast I can. He doesn't want to sit there. If you're listening to me right now, can you please put out things in my algorithm back? Like it used to be like dogs and like ASMR, like nice things that make me happy. Like like therapy. It's been a weird fucking week on my algorithm. That's not feeling good.

29:14Speaking of that, we are getting over 30 minutes, I think here. I don't even know dancing with the stars. Meet the celebrities. Tyler, camera. Let's go. A friend of the show, takes the best they'll be on. Trades, he goes to talk about it. And I've already talked him about going down to watch him. Can't wait for that. Sierra Miller, Sarah Jane, Nader, Jackson Olsen, another friend of the podcast. Glyramo, Glyramo, right? Glyramo. Glyramo. Jimmy Kimmelside, Kickstarter. Harry Schoom, Jr. Julius Styles, Julius Styles, classic Ezra Freck, Gia De Laurentis, Amber Glenn, Mora Higgins, Conorwood. Oh, I love Conorwood. Such a great guy. Tyler Hansen, Connor Levitt, Tatiana Ali, Jenna Dewan. What do you think? I think that your ability to butcher names is just incredible. It'll never cease to amaze me. I think it's an absolute horseshit that Jenna is paired with Mac or... Oh, your churper names. Oh, sorry. He's got a twin fucking brother who we just had on the podcast.

30:18Yeah, I think it's absolute cheat, cheat mode. They're going to win unless they get judged completely differently because she's absolutely electric. What was the movie she was in with Channing Tatum? It was like my favorite movie for a long time. It's where they met. And then that's where they met. And then that's where they dated. God, what the hell was that movie? Electric dance movie that they were in together. That's where I know her from. Had a massive crush on her for years. But yeah, dancing with the stars is going to be hype. We're going to cover it. It's going to be great. We're going to cover it. I think we're over 30 minute Thursdays. Step up, I think is what you're talking about. God is that a good movie. And yeah, dancing with the stars back onto... You know what? Dancing with the stars. Hey, Instagram. Put my whole Instagram algorithm on dance with the stars. It makes me feel good. I'm inspired. I'm empowered. I like it. Light and zip brightens in one of the weirdest episodes ever of 30 minute Thursday. David, what do you want to leave us with? It was great. It was great episode. Just something in the air tonight with the thunder and the lightning and the vibes and the energy.

31:18It was, it was, I can't believe it's midnight. I'm still up. I'm going to leave you with the last thing on my list. It was brought up in our editing chat today. Harry Potter, HBO show. Most expensive show. HBO has ever put out. Are you a Harry Potter guy? Do I seem like a Harry Potter guy? That's a good question. I actually think that you do. My due too, but I have never gotten into it. I mean, either you ever read the books? I'm not going to watch one movie, but I would. Me too. Which is crazy. Should we do it together? Should we do Harry Potter and Verne? You know what? I was, I'm late. I'm late to the game on everything. Shocker, like duh. I just watched Game of Thrones last year and it was like, I was like a heater for a long time. Man, it was that the best show I've ever seen in my life. That's the best. All right. You and I are going to go down to Burning Man. No, no, no, no. No, we're not. Let's just start with Harry Potter. Yes, start with Harry Potter. Book one movie one. Okay. Guys, I want to apologize for this episode. I want to apologize for absolutely nothing. This is electric.

32:21I don't know what came out of this, but what I want you to know is we appreciate you being here. And tomorrow we're podcasting with Jesse James Decker. We are podcasting with Andrew and Alex from Bachelor in Paradise, Andrew Spencer. And I got to be at the New York Stock Exchange live on TV at 9 AM. So if I royally screw up tomorrow, you know, it's because, I don't know, the last 35 minutes. David, anything before you wrap? No, it's good to be back. Do not keep us apart for two more weeks. I think a part of it too is that we didn't, we haven't really talked in the last two weeks. You can busy. I'm busy. So this was like the first time we've actually gotten to see each other and talk each other. So it was great. Okay, it's enough. I got to go to bed. Love you out there. Thanks for listening. Another episode of 30 Minute Thursdays. Hopefully one you can afford it. Hey, don't be making that money.

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