#290 Zach Lahn - Inside America’s Cancer-Causing Chemical Problem

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1:02I had no idea people were that concerned about this. This sounds like I had a conversation about this exact thing with Secretary Driscoll about right to repair for our military. I didn't even know this was going on in the farming communities. Here's some here's some points. Producers under 35 nationally 296,480 9% of all producers that's not that's not good. Just context for the audience that's that's the up and coming generation. Iowa producers under 35 15,782. The FTC sued deer in 2025 over repair restriction allegations and ruders reported a judge let that antitrust suit proceed. Deer has denied any wrongdoing. What do you say to the next generation of farmers watching their parents work 16 hour days to buy farm equipment and they still feel like they don't control what they actually own. Are you dealing with this on your farm? You know we don't use but I use more legacy

2:09equipment older equipment partially for this exact reason. But what I say to producers especially young ones is I think what they need to understand is this is being done on purpose. They're doing this on purpose. What I mean by that is that you know my whole life every politician I've ever met has said we have to support farmers we have to support farmers and everything's gotten worse for the actual producer. And so if you actually look at the past 10 years and what the agribusiness lobby has spent in Washington DC it's about a one and a half billion dollars in the past 10 years lobbying Congress. The top five companies during that same time have made about a hundred and fifty billion dollars in profit. In the same time we've lost a hundred thousand farms. A hundred thousand thousand family farms. So who are they lobbying for? It's not the farmer. It's not the producer. This is something that sometimes is difficult to bring up

3:15because you know right now Bobby Kennedy is really fighting against like big food for instance. And I've been told by people that taking on the fight that I'm taking on with big agriculture is much more difficult. And there's a reason for that. And the reason is big agriculture has created a caricature of farming and they're pretending to be the people that are defending the heritage of our farmers. But actually the ones extracting every dollar of wealth out of our farms that they possibly can and bragging about farm consolidation. It's like I just farm consolidation. You know is that buying a bunch of family farms and putting them together? It's that on glomerate. Yeah it's that you know the producers the farms are getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And so what that actually means and we've done the opposite on my farm and I love to talk to you about that. But what that actually means is every time one of these farms goes away or disappears there's life that we lose in our rural communities. And our rural communities in Iowa

4:21in the Midwest they're on life support. But these companies want to work with bigger and bigger producers. And we know that. We know we know why they want to do that. It's easier. They they have less cost when they're dealing with less customers. They can control people easier. And so the statistics that you're talking about about young farmers you know the world economic forum talked about that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. This is a part of it. You're 25% of Iowa's farmland at least 25% is now owned by people who don't live in the state. Out of state funds and investors a quarter of my state is owned by people who will never go to a Friday night football game in our small town who aren't shopping on our main streets. Like this is in line with blackstone buying single family homes. The same thing is happening to our agriculture community. The thing that's so difficult for what I'm trying to undertake right now is to get to

5:21the farmers to help them understand that this is happening on purpose. They don't want more family farms. And a matter of fact if you go to the WF they don't want sovereignty for our country. And so what's one of the ways you can strip away sovereignty is to have them have an insecure food base in the state. You can't feed yourself how you sovereign. And it's gotten you know Sean it's gotten very bad to this point. You know I'll be in these debates with people about the use of agriculture chemicals and things like that. And when I'm in them they keep talking about this idea that well we need this to produce food. We need glyphosate for instance to produce food. And what they're not discussing is that in my state of Iowa 0.03% of our acres are used to produce anything that will end up on your plate in its original form. Could you say that again?

6:220.03% of our acres out of 24 million acres is roughly 9,000 acres in Iowa is used to produce any produce food that will end up on your plate in its original form. So it's primarily holy shit. It's all chemicals. And it's like so they have they're producing ethanol. They're like we can talk about these things but they're producing feed that will then be shipped out of state for animals and shipped out of our country for animals. Iowa has the best farm land in the world I would say and we import 95% of our food. So there's a big movement of people that want to see you know homesteading and smaller farms crop up but when you have out of state investors that are coming in and buying up land and jacking up the price of land there's not one young person that can afford to get on land. And so your statistics I look at it from even a

7:23different perspective. I look at it from this perspective that aging population of farmers they're on break even margins now because they're being extorted by big agriculture companies that continue to raise their prices even as commodity prices stay the same or drop because they form monopolies now you know Donald Trump and Brooke Rollins are talking about this talking about breaking these these monopolies up in other a few other politicians have talked about it but there used to be a heritage in my state where you know grandpa would run the farm and then when he got older he would step away often he would move to a different house and then son would farm and raise the family that's what happened with my family but the idea of supporting two incomes two families now in Iowa it's basically gone for the average farmer damn so we're we're heading towards a cliff and you know just a little bit of where I come from on this is that in my family

8:30came to Iowa in 1850 around then actually my great great grandfather was one of the famed Hawkeyes on horseback in the Civil War he was you know they participate actually fought in the battle in Nashville just in Gearsons raid these were people that were brought in an Iowa second Calvary to go counter the opposing Calvaries that were you know wreaking havoc and he was in a state that wasn't a part of this battle is in America but you know wasn't what was going on around the in the country was not happening in Iowa at the end of the Civil War more islands fought in the Civil War than any other state per capita no kidding yes and there's deep reasons for that and it's about where they came from and what they were leaving and that in Germany when they came over they had just you know left this feudal system they were trying to have an uprising they were defeated they were exiled Iowa came online right in 1846 heavy agrarian culture

9:37so you have these people that were fleeing a country primarily because they wanted to control their destiny they wanted to own their land they wanted to build to build their communities and then you see what happens with the expansion the potential expansion of slavery and all these very wealthy people on the east coast that were slave owners wanting to make the Midwest slave states so they could control it I firmly believe that part of the reason that Iowa stood up and the way that they did was because they fled that situation in their own country and they didn't want to happening where they were so he came over and then about 20 years later my great-great-grandfather came over on a ship from Hamburg by himself at 14 and he was in the stowage of the ship and he made his way to Iowa and then in 1900 they built he and his uncle built our family homestead

10:42in bell plane and that place was a place of deep stories for decades and decades from the great depression to World War Two to my great-great-grand uncle fighting in World War I going overseas fighting in World War I and coming back to run the local newspaper while his brother kept everything studying study with the farm and then my grandpa mowing a runway in the bean field and buying a 1942 tailor craft and learning how to fly and starting a career in aviation and his brother who off-air craft care is in the Pacific in the 40s. These are our stories of our history and our culture and our people and in 2005 my family farm was sold my great grandma of the past away and my grandma had called me at the time and I was in college and asked me if I wanted that wanted anything to do with the farm. I didn't know what that would be but I was out in Colorado at the time I was like no

11:44I'm I'm I'm gone. But if you fast forward a number of years I stopped in just to see the farm and I was going to visit a family over in East Iowa and I just told them if you're ever going to sell this place please let me know and then they called me a couple years later and they said hey we're going to sell would you like to buy and before I could even think about it I said yes 100 percent I want to buy this. So in 2014 I bought the family farm back and then over the past 11 years I've spent restoring that farm board by board using old pictures that I got from my great grandmother's photo collection and during that time I remember you know a story that people often ask me why did I do that and what I what comes to me is that you know I really want my children to understand their story. I want them to understand their history like who built them and that these generations before them toiled and suffered and jumped in to go to the Civil War when they didn't

12:47have to and like to protect what we have and I wanted them to understand that deep story and connect to it. It was never because I wanted to run for office I actually don't even want to be a politician. But I remember after I bought the farm I was down in the basement is I had signed the papers came to the farmhouse as down in the basement I was leaning in a wooden post in the basement this is actually happened and I just said to myself what am I doing like this place needs so much work it's going to take forever like it was a stretch to buy it in the first place to get the loan and I'm leaning on this post and I turn and the post are the initials V L is my grandpa and I just said to myself this is why I'm doing it because these things truly matter that we don't forget where we came from and so bringing this into what

13:49you just talked about that's what's at stake that's what's being taken from us. And so me deciding to run for governor was a choice of wanting to throw everything I have in to protect the culture that help build my state build my people and say it's worth preserving like this is worth preserving it's provided for the greatest alleviation and suffering ever known to mankind our culture has great prosperity and if you look back at the principles of what of where what they came to do it wasn't that they came here to get rich they came here with the basics of freedom and now much of that is being taken away and so that's why I'm in this race I often ask myself is there room for people in politics who

14:52still actually care that's the question of the fucking day man it's a question I I it comes up often and here's what I love I'm not out there talking about my opponents in a negative way at all I won't do it it's not it's not why I'm here I'm not out trying to make people afraid that I was going to become the next Minnesota if we we like don't do x y or z I'm here it's wrong with Minnesota if you're a daycare provider nothing oh shit it you know I just believe that my job what God's calling me to do in this time and my life is to tell a better story about what we could be as a state to bring people together about that and I will tell you when I'm out on the campaign trail and I'm new to all this like I don't like I've never done this before I don't have a script that I'm going off of I have a couple

15:56key points that I'm really I'm really passionate about but what I try to do is just tell the truth to people and not worry about what these big companies lobbyists or special interests are going to think about me and just believe like to the point I mentioned earlier that God's going to protect me in this hole endeavor and then he's got a plan for this it's a good boy to live it's a good boy to live we track our sleep fine tune our macros and try every biohack under the sun but the truth is your peak performance starts at the cellular level armor a colostrum is nature's original superfood colostrum is packed with over 400 bioactive nutrients that fortify gut health strengthen immune health fuel performance and more whether you're training for a race working to balance your health or simply striving to feel your best armora helps you operate at your highest level because your body deserves the same level of optimization is the rest of your life for me armora has become

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18:10opposite in politics like what's expedient what will get people to donate to me you know I had somebody once mentioned to me it was that you need to imagine every voters walking around with little buttons on them and your job is to figure out what those buttons are what they what they like and push as many as you can civil like you I say guys geez this is not at all what people are asking for they once they I believe they want people that are willing to take on the big systemic issues that they're facing it's getting to the fucking point where I'll just take anybody with a spine you got a spine you have a fucking pole like it's it's I just feel so lied to it's it's I mean we talked about it when when you know when our mutual friend Rich connected us yeah I reached called me about you and I was like I don't know man I don't I don't know if I want to interview another fucking guy running for office and we chatted a little bit and I was like

19:16all right I'll give I'll give Zach a call and we chatted and and I really liked what you had to say I mean we talked about it it was just like man I just sat in front of I don't know how many politicians now and they're just fucking lie lie lie yeah I mean it's so much hope so much hope for this administration and I don't know about everybody else but my hope went right down the fucking shitter in less than a year and you know when I know we're gonna talk about this but you know the fucking maha movement I was all about that shit I'm scared to death of cancer I just found out about microwaves the other day now we're shit can our fucking microwave I wife throws out years ago but but you know what I mean I'm all excited like oh they're gonna clean up the food they're gonna give her these pesticides they're gonna give her all the shit what do I see the other day we fucking they ran they fucking ran hard on this stuff man hard on this all the all the health influencers and the doctors with big names they're all fucking rallying

20:19around the maha movement oh let's throw a big fucking party less than a year in well I don't I don't know if anything has changed other than I saw that they they's Trump signed an executive order and fucking RFK backed him and said we're gonna give immunity to was a bear is a bear whatever it is these sorts of glyphosate based herbicides yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah thank you Trump thank you RFK good fucking job way to fucking stick to your constituents you know shit gives me chills man it's just every fucking thing that came out of these guys's mouth as a fucking lie it just makes me think what is what is the fucking point of voting is there a point I think I think there are far too many people that are coming to that same conclusion that are just saying why am I doing this you know I it doesn't mean you give up but I can tell you one

21:20thing fucking vote isn't gonna fix this shit yeah they're we're reaching a tipping point and I think more and more people look you look at why somebody like Nick Fuentes is getting a giant audience what do you think that is what happened to the hundred Biden laptop why has an Anthony Fauci been arrested yet what about like all of these politicians that have been in on a lot of this you know this global ring of pedophilia like and then you wonder why are young people checking out was because they just see it all as a lie I deal with this all the time in what I'm doing right now because as somebody who actually wants to make a difference and change things in the beauty of the constitution and the tenth amendment says that I can do that in my state like I have zero interest in being in Washington DC whatsoever I think it's my personal view and people will you know Republicans will come after me for saying this is that it's beyond repair it's in let me give you an example why gosh I'm getting a bit upset here but well let's go back to farming

22:28over the past ten years the agriculture companies have spent a billion and a half dollars lobbying Washington DC a billion and a half during that same time their profits have went up 150 billion dollars and at the same time we've lost a hundred thousand family farms okay so I mentioned that earlier but what does that mean it means that there there's a capture of these agencies that's so deep that lobbyists are able to put in place whatever policies that they want to basically we've seen this now like with with these immunity we've been with all kinds of shit we see them with other countries we see it with with with the glyphosate stuff we see we see it with pharmaceuticals see with oil and gas we see it with it fucking every everywhere but the actual American people that's they give a fuck about everything else but the American people well and that's when I go back to this idea that you know farmers in my state are starting to understand

23:29that these companies are not their friends they're like look they're charging foreign farmers these three big companies in our country are charging foreign farmers less for the same amount of product than they charge our farmers just like they were doing in pharmaceuticals so they're saying if you yield more crop we're gonna take more money because we can and there's a complete monopoly nobody wants to address it but there is so the hard part for me is that as I'm talking about these things there's there's there's a divergence farmers understand these companies are extorting them but the part that gets me is that there's such a complex of working organisms in DC and in lobbyists and capital in the capitals that have gaslit these people to make them believe that these products are safe for their health safe products don't need immunity from liability

24:33full stop if you want to see an example of that look at the vaccine situation we have in our country right now the 1986 vaccine immunity has probably caused the greatest amount of suffering of any piece of legislation that we've we've had and so what happens when we see it's that one and a half billion dollars of lobbying that these companies do this surprises not more than that oh well that's just for one industry in one sector I mean right now in DC I read that bear has spent nine bear has two lobbyists per member of congress right now pushing for this immunity the average amount they spend per member of congress is more than the members of congress make in a year this is the capture and when I'll go back to is talking about what they've been doing with this immunity and so when you look at what they're actually doing I say this like right now we have

25:39these companies pushing at the state capitals we have them pushing at the Supreme Court we have them putting things into the farm but which by the way I don't think you should be able to enter something into a bill in Washington DC without your name being next to it of who actually put this in it's like we need a blockchain service that says like here's who put this ridiculous idea and that's going to help this one special interest so we know exactly who to talk to about that and who to go after about that and then you have the executive order so this what I say this is how big agricultural wages war that's what they're doing because they continue to lose in court and just just to summarize that when you talk about this gaslighting of people say what what these paid people from these companies continue to say about this is that all these juries aren't scientists what I tell people is bear in monsanto can afford the best attorneys in the world they have no shortage of cash they have every bit of influence in the jury selection process as the plaintiffs do

26:47and these juries are hearing about a hundred hours of evidence in these each of these trials these major trials and they're still losing and so why is that because we have internal documents for one for one thing that show exactly that they what they knew and that they knew it there's actually things in these documents that are so egregious like this right now in europe the type of agricultural roundup that we use is banned yeah people don't talk about this and when the industry people talk about they say it's a lie but what they say glyphosate isn't banned in the EU that's true glyphosate isn't banned in the EU but the formulation of roundup that we use the United States is banned in the EU because it's so toxic so what did monsanto do and I think 2015 when this was coming out in the EU they reformulated their their roundup into a formulation that by some measures is 20 times less toxic than what we use

27:54the United States and then there's emails now is there a food production gone down I'm just curious oh and you know now there's a food production not gone down but also they have far more stringent levels of what's even allowed us residue on their products that's why you hear so many people saying they can go to europe and eat brad or eat pasta or things like this and they don't feel sick afterwards but in these emails from what's called the monsanto files which are oh shit more email files more email file here we go here we go in these emails what you see is a captured agency the EPA is captured but you also see a lot of internal emails between monsanto executives and people at monsanto and each other so for instance when the EU was saying this formulation that you use in the United States we're not going to lie to use it's with something called POEAs polyoxyl-ethylated talonines it's actually the product within

28:55glyphosate within roundup that they formulate to have it break down the skin basically of the plant to allow it to enter the plant easier well it does that on human skin too it actually operates on fat and so and this is this is I'll get into this in a little bit but this is part of what they don't want people to talk about is that they'll always say glyphosate is safe and they will not talk about glyphosate based herbicides which are known to be far more toxic because the product can actually get in your bloodstream quicker and more efficiently so the one of the emails that was shared between the monsanto EU representative and the US company after they reformulated that to make it safer for the EU the email went out that said why would we continue to make a harmful product when we can make a safer one and they didn't change a thing they know how to make these products safer we have their internal communications to

29:59know that they're lying to us but instead of owning up and putting a warning on the label which is what they would have to do to stem the tide of a lot of this they are going after state houses and trying to get immunity they're putting it in the farm bill to get immunity they're now pushing the Supreme Court to get immunity and they now have an executive order which just to dispel any confusion does not exclude immunity at all meaning there's nothing in that executive order that says that it does not apply to product liability I mean we just saw I mean you we're just talking about it before they before we sat down here I mean we was a rusty grills a state congressman or something here in Tennessee I got I got I got a call by shit I can't I'm drawing a blank here but you ran for congress almost fucking one nobody's ever heard of him and you shot me a text and you know told me about this this this bill that was

31:05getting ready to get signed into law yeah the rusty grills you saw the the clip yeah thank and you know so I call I got that the day they were signed I'm like well shit I got like 30 minutes he's like well you got an hour I was like okay I was like just give me the details and I'll I'll get something out and you gave me the details and I wanted to you know you saw a little selfie video bill got yanked 30 minutes after that's what I saw I saw your video but then everybody's texted me saying oh this don't worry it's gonna come up again oh it'll come up again but it's these people are fucking they are paying attention they know what we want especially especially the federal government yeah I mean country's been pretty loud about a lot of things and they're just they're just willfully ignoring everything we want and doing whatever the hell they please

32:06it's it's fucking insane it's insane let me let me give you an introduction here real quick Zach should have done this at the beginning Zach Lane a six-generation Iowan your regenerative farmer and businessmen running to become the next governor of Iowa independent of party leadership son of a Christian pastor raised with a strong foundation and faith family and service founder of home place ventures investing in agriculture real estate and technology with a focus on local ownership husband to Annie you're raising seven children together and most importantly you're a Christian yeah welcome to the show thank you I think um as I hear you read that you know something that comes to me is that um as you said most important is a Christian that might be where in the deepest part of me this really like gets me is that you know my dad

33:06was a 30-year conservationist he's a pastor conservationist um and as I was growing up the lessons that he was teaching me about stewarding creation about taking responsibility and doing the right thing with your land and with your property that all ties back to as Jordan Peterson would say beauty is a pathway to God to the divine it all connects in and so when I take a look at what's happening around the state of Iowa with a farmland being owned by people don't live here which you can't steward land properly if you don't live in the state you can't take care of it the way that you would and you look at single-family homes being bought by trillion dollar you know wall street hedge funds or you look at agriculture companies extorting farmers and putting monopolistic practices in place this comes back to like something of faith for me meaning there is such thing as right

34:09and wrong that there are things that we are called to do and you know of all the laws that that were given in the Old Testament Jesus boiled them down to two love the Lord your God without your heart minus soul and love your neighbor as yourself and he actually when he was pressed on this by the Pharisees who's your neighbor he kind of came back to the other question is to whom are you being neighborly because it's not a it's not a law of like oh this person that person like who's within proximity of where I live it's actually much deeper that we are tasked with working to make life better for the people around us and the people our communities in our state and this key question that the Amish have asked for a very long time before they make a big decision which is what will this change do to my community before they make the decision has not been asked by politicians in a very long time and so when I'm thinking about running that's what it comes back

35:15to for me is this idea of when I'm gone what are my kids going to be able to look back you know before I come came on to this podcast my prayer is very simple I want to put something into the world that my children can look back on and be proud that their dad was fighting for something that really mattered 100% get that and so when I look at what's going on in Iowa and I tie it back to our heritage as a people and I just wonder are my kids going to even want to live here with everything that's going on a lot of people looking at dual citizenship right now so I'm fucking one of you don't come to Iowa you mean dual citizenship I will give you like I would love to but I don't want to get fucking cancer I know I know you know and and let's take we're going to come right back to farming but you brought something up just a minute ago that I want to hit on and and so I want to tie I want to talk about Christianity the federal government

36:17and state governments yeah you just a few minutes ago you had said that you think that I believe you said that you think that something along the lines of the federal government is unrepairable and that you would get pushed back from Republicans for saying that do you do you believe that do I believe it's not unrepairable yeah yeah I you know I do too this is what I think it's completely fucking gone looks gone you know here's the thing there's this idea of the American experiment and that is real and true and good but if you look at the deviation we've had from that I think the most one of the common questions that comes up for me is what do I think is the most pressing issue facing the country today and I keep coming back to this our countries run by unelected people and we don't know who they are and so if you're in a in a republic figuring out who

37:19they are but if you're in a republic and your elected officials aren't making the decisions for you that you have big business that you have special engineering lobbyists that you have undue influence from foreign governments like if that's the situation you're in like my tendency to say let's hunker down and make Iowa amazing and let's get ready for whatever comes next because I want my state to be one that's prosperous to be one that has great education clean water that like people have opportunity in my state but no I have no interest in running for office to be in Washington DC and you know what I think there are good people really trying to do the right thing you asked my personal opinion and I'm not a politician so I'm just going to tell you it I like to me it's beyond repair I think so too so much so that I've less than five congressmen less than five people and in federal politics and altogether I think are are like true to to their constituents true to

38:21their word and and they know what they know what honor means and you know they have actual real values and I've tried to convince every single one of them to come back to the state and come back and run our fucking state because this is the only thing we have left as the states yeah we don't have a federal government that shit is run away every fucking institution the CIA the FBI all of them all of them I mean I just had a guy on here goes by AJ got blasted with a microwave weapon if you heard about Havana syndrome you know what the CIA told him that they have to make a decision between their people in the institution taking care of their people or the institution they'll pick the institution and they will willing willingly lie to Congress to cover this shit up that's our fucking now how can we trust anything at all anything that comes out of an institution that's openly that that says I guess not openly behind closed doors that they will willingly lie

39:25to Congress and that's just one institution well institutional capture has been has been done on purpose and been going on for a very long time and now we're seeing like look I think the people that would sympathize with what you and I are saying the most is the average voter I think so too like you you talk about the average voter and what hope they believe that we have in Washington DC and like this was something I had to think deeply about because I wasn't planning to run for the seat you know seat hasn't been open in 20 years in Iowa the longest serving governor in the history of America's from Iowa what I had to look at was with the issues I'm talking to you about that I'm watching every day in my state was I willing to not do this knowing that the next governor could be there till I die there's no term limits and the the the institutional capture is very real I'm not the establishment candidate but I'm also not somebody who's like here to

40:31I was it's what I am here to do is give my people a voice to say what you and I are talking about they're talking about we hear it and they'd have to kill me to change the way I view these things to get me to do something different that would be adverse to what the state and the people need it's like I told somebody the other day I heard this term is called somebody to use the term economic nationalism it was basically this idea that like the economy and the the government of the country should be there to focus on making life better for the people in the country and I think like did we ever think that there was anything else did we mean we see something else but like this is what it's supposed to be the state of Iowa its economy its government all the efforts it's undertaking should be solely focused on making life better for the people that are living there and let me give you one of the most egregious examples about this in my own state

41:35right now there's three big companies that control 85% of the agriculture input market when I was growing up in Iowa there were over 300 companies they've bought up and bought up and consolidated and consolidated this way farmers have the illusion of choice one of those companies is company called Sanjenta Sanjenta is 100% owned by the state of China 100% and we can get into what they produce and all of these things and that but let me just say this first since being Chinese owned the state government of Iowa has given a Chinese company seven and a half million dollars in refundable tax credits paid for by the taxpayers propping up a Chinese company see this is this is where I was going to sorry we see all this waste fraud and abuse you know and they always want to fucking raise the taxes

42:35let's raise taxes so we can send it to Israel we can send it to Ukraine we can send it to fucking whoever you know we can we can we can pay China's fucking you know whatever bill tax you know the taxpayers will pay it you know what that's another it's it's like I don't even uh why can't I mean we need strong we need strong governors and state legislators and you know what what would it take for a state to go fuck you federal government we're not paying taxes we're gonna raise our state taxes we don't need your fucking funding we don't need any of your bullshit none of it fuck you we're gonna raise our state taxes and if you send in any fucking IRS agents we're gonna have them arrested and put in fucking jail and in the state I mean is that even a is that even is that a possibility because the government is just it is it is all waste fraud and abuse greed pedophilia it's that's what it is it is what it is like you can't hide this shit

43:41anymore you know and so why why aren't more you know why aren't more people standing up and taking control I just it just you know one of the things let me say this first is that what you're talking people talk to me running for governor about this idea of like foreign aid and I say my state doesn't have clean drinking water exactly why would I ever want to send one dollar to any foreign country when we have the fastest rate of new cancer in the history of civilization we don't have clean drinking water like no this is this is what I'm talking about this is where we expect our dollars to stay in our state to benefit our people and the idea that we'd use refundable tax credits to support a Chinese company when by the way we have homegrown Iowa companies that compete with them that compete one of these guys testified in front of a congressional hearing which let me just say this like this goes to your example how many times we've seen a congressional hearing about this

44:42or this thing come up and it's like congress is talking about and absolutely nothing happens too worried about aliens right now aliens and fucking UFOs what's the next shitting me in this aliens fucking aliens that's what they're talking about when you see that come out it's just like anybody that's awake is just like I'm sorry what like we're we're we're done being distracted from the things that actually matter we we're smarter than this but in this hearing on what's going on in the agriculture input markets one entrepreneur third-generation Iowa seedsman creating independent seeds who's competing against these companies is talking about what these companies do what just a little little background here you know we have GMO seeds and so those genetics have patents on them and the patents last about 20 years and once they're the patent runs out they're supposed to go into a seed library so an independent seed maker can

45:43pull that seed off the shelf and they can use it to make their own version and usually often most often like generic drugs cheaper what this third-generation seedsman testified about in front of congress is that when these big companies two companies control all of the seed genetics in our country when one of those big companies puts that that on the shelf in the seed library before they do it they scramble the name of it into random letters and numbers so he can't figure out what it is and yes it continue going to to them to for royalties and pay royalties to get seeds holy shit and so in and where's the justice system on this this is what people we come back to and so yes as governor I've already said very very openly I plan to sue the federal government every chance I get and just to be very clear I actually think Donald Trump would like that you know the chevron doctrine was overturned saying that like that if congress didn't specifically put a regulation in place the state we can sue now if regulators have made up their own rules which

46:47they've made up millions and probably billions of pages of these rules but we have got to get back to the point where we're looking to say how are we going to liberate ourselves from exactly what you're talking about the first step I would do is sue but this also just goes back to why I'm not running for congress it's like I agree with what you're saying about we need to go deep in our state we need to have good governors who are willing to stand up and just put it all on the line I've had people already asked me Sean not that you know people just ask these questions are you thinking about doing anything bigger than this no I'm not I don't want to do anything different than this matter of fact this isn't something I woke up in the morning said I really like to go do this and put my family through all this what I said was if I don't do this if I don't bring this up if I don't put my own money into this and say to these donors I don't want your funds how much longer is the state that I love that I grew up in that my family like helped to pioneer

47:47how much longer is that can even be recognizable to me probably not very long not very long but I believe that with the right governor any here's the thing we have things we could change in the state of Iowa that that a governor could change right now to make some of the hot button issues that the voters are talking about like go away or get much better and even on the republican side we're not doing it I mean there's been great advancements and you know we've we've passed school choice legislation we've lowered taxes and all these things but what I often say to people is like this is not about taxes or regulations this is about our culture and identity as as islands and as Americans the free market doesn't take into account culture it doesn't fix cultural issues oftentimes it makes them worse people ask me what do you mean by that it's like what's the free market solution for the declining church attendance in our country we have to make those decisions and that's that that is actually the sole reason I am running

48:55is to say we have to get the culture right in our state if we don't get the culture right like we're gonna end up like Washington DC because the same people they're buying off politicians and looking for influence in Washington DC are coming to the states are coming less and less because more and more powers being concentrated in DC but that's why we have to start suing and we have to start saying we're gonna be bringing this back into the control of our state so to me it goes back to culture it goes back to who are we what do we want to stand for as a people and do the traditions and the heritage of our state and our ancestors matter to us because I can tell you they would have revolted for far less than what's going on right now oh yeah and they did for far less you know I was talking to somebody about the conditions of farming in Iowa and he was telling me a story that I ended up looking up and it was about

49:59you know in the 30s about how bad farming conditions were and there was farmers from basically 80% of the counties in our state that started protesting to such a level that the sheriff's had to bring out submachine guns and I would actually say that the conditions we have right now are worse were to the point where you'll have people talk about farming as if it's just a hobby meaning like you have to have an off farm job to support your family but you're still farming and I've even seen seen agricultural established people bragging about that it's like pay they just love they do it for free they just love it I'm liking you don't understand this like this is a key part of our heritage and we're being poisoned with our food we import 95% of what we eat in the state and basically none of our land is actually grow anything that we eat the entire chessboard is backwards yeah let's talk about the

51:07collapse of the family farms yeah you want to yeah love to what do they turn on them into data centers the big thing right now a lot of a lot of real estate investors are looking for land next to power grid so that they could build a huge data center yeah we'll sit out to a big data center let me answer your first question is what what's happening to family farms most of the time they're being bulldozed and farmed over so the place like my house I was afraid that was going to happen to my family's home that's why I couldn't say no when the opportunity kept to buy it for me because what used to be these small farm sets dotting all these places and known by the last name of the people who lived there for a hundred years are just being bulldozed farmed over and forgotten but when you talk about bigger efforts you talked about your data centers there's

52:08many examples of how this is happening across the country and what's happening in Iowa too you know if you go to the south of Cedar Rapids so if you're in Cedar Rapids you head south towards the airport you will drive past what used to be farmland that had been farmland for generations and generations that now looks like a military installation is being put in I've never seen so many pieces of heavy equipment in my life I've never seen something built so quickly in my life and what it is is two companies Google and QTS have about 1400 acres of farmland and they're building data centers there now I'm not going to get into like the bait about like whether we should have data centers or not I think we're being a bit premature on this especially with Elon Musk talking about putting them in space but in that there's a broader issue here of we're not thinking through it all what AI is going to do to us as a people or our communities

53:10so like I could come to that discussion in a different way but just from a policy perspective or just a principle perspective on on this the city of Cedar Rapids gave one of those data centers 529 million dollars in tax rebates what half a billion dollars in tax rebates to come to Cedar Rapids to put this data center in and let me just say this in the contract they're contractually obligated to create jobs as part of this to receive these tax breaks for 529 million they're contractually obligated to create 30 jobs 17 million dollars a job it's a big paycheck huge and what I say is like look you want to build a data center in Iowa I'm going to charge you far more in property tax and I'm going to use it to lower the property taxes the people in the communities that you're around we won't be taking advantage of anymore is what I'm trying to say whether it's agriculture

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57:20so that when we go back to this idea Sean you know something I give Trump a lot of credit for is pioneering the idea of America first you know before Trump came into under the scene nobody's even really talking about China in a major way from the political standpoint everything was good like the free trade we have with him is good even though it's hauled out an entire region of people who then ended up getting addicted opioids and dying off at faster rates they're all saying how our partnership with China is great and then Trump came in and said they're taking advantage of us we're suckers he's right 100% right so when I talk to people about what it means to be Iowa first like this is part of my campaign it's like but like I want to put Iowa first it's not just a slogan it's saying like if you're a multinational if you're owned by a foreign government you're getting zero dollars from my state period those dollars will go towards homegrown Iowa entrepreneurs

58:22to build their life to build their company and compete with you and hopefully make it so you have a hard time keeping up that's what it should be that's the idea of putting Iowa first it's the same thing about these data centers it's like we like we have two amazing assets in our state we have our children and we have our farmland we have some of the best in the world to give them over to hundred billion dollar multinational tech companies and then pay them basically to do it it doesn't make sense and here's going back to what you said earlier voters know this when I talk to them about Syngenta getting refundable tax credits from the state I don't care how many high quality jobs they say they're creating the voters don't want this they don't want to support a Chinese company and they want to support Iowa companies so this goes back to just we've taken our eye off the ball our politicians aren't paying attention to the right things and

59:23I believe they they're not asking the right questions about what will these changes do to our community and they do not care about the culture of our state and our people that's what I was going to say I don't know if they're not paying attention but they definitely don't care yeah they just don't give a shit yeah because there's no repercussions yeah there's no consequences done don't get reelected what's Congress have like a 95% re-election rate something like that 5% approval rating and 95% re-election rate yeah like if you think the you know if you think the the elections are are good I mean let's we're we're fucking ourselves over here yeah well you know you know what I mean and you know when they have they know they have donation limits to run for those seats right well that just puts them in such an advantage I actually think the limits put them in advantage in some ways because you know and I'm not saying take it take don't

1:00:28not have donations we don't have any in my race which is part of the reason I can go elsewhere because as you could probably imagine my message within the big agriculture community of donors isn't exactly popular but and so I'm going elsewhere to raise funds from people who want to see the agriculture the culture of agriculture in our state restored regenerative farming safer practices less cancer but if you look at Congress you know finding those people if you're an upstart candidate who who are going to be willing to give you the $7,000 piece I mean you have to put a lot of that money together to be able to wage any sort of battle against one of these entrenched people and so in every every part of the deck is stacked against the person that's trying to unseat somebody every part so when I look at Iowa and I look at what are we doing with our state how can we like make a major difference in our state it comes to the most entrenched

1:01:31interest for me the people that are paying the money so politicians will look the other way and I've just been very clear people ask me all the time are you accepting funds I mean no I'm not I won't and you know I think for people that are principled what I'd like to say is like well yeah but I'm never I'm not going to I'm never going to take my eye off the ball but I just think the average voter is so weary of seeing this group or that group support them and then they just realize well that was just the precursor to me knowing that I'm just going to get screwed over and that when it comes down the time of addressing the fastest rate of new cancer in the country in the world or making sure that a big agriculture company stops losing in court which side are they going to line up on and so I just can't do it from a principled standpoint of saying like I can't look at you or in the mirror or my kids and say well no that's not going to have any effect

1:02:35because these people they know what they're doing yeah yeah let's move into glyphosate but first but first I got a question for you this is from from a patron we have a Patreon account it's turned into a community they get the opportunity to ask every guest a question it's from Oliver why do you think so many politicians are more interested in money and special interests rather than their constituents in America's progress furthermore what can we do to help remedy this issue in the future I think we pretty much covered that you know but Oliver's question is a very big big question because there's many there's many things I mean of course money and special interests but I think it comes that you know being on this show with you right now is a very different medium than what politics usually is because people can actually see

1:03:40how I address these issues in a long-form discussion and I hope they can see my spirit and they can see like my heart politics isn't set up for that and so I think that if we had more of this of being able to understand where somebody comes from what drives him and motivates them there'd be less of that and that's probably what I go back to what's motivating them truly like what's the why that when everything goes wrong and a donor pulls out or whatever that's just going to keep them saying I don't care I'm doing the right thing man I don't know I loved I I'm with you but I've interviewed probably half of the fucking administration before they got elected yeah I was told all kinds of shit on air in front of millions of people I don't know of any of it's done in fact some of it has just gone the complete opposite way like like the maha shit that we're just talking about which we'll get into at the end of the glyphosate section but

1:04:44you know but I on the other hand I agree with what you're saying because it's hard to hide and it but they did they found a fucking way man they found a way to hide let's fair I you know I think as I as I look at this as somebody who's new in these things and as I as paid attention and watch the short reels and the quick news clips that come up from politicians and you realize that like when you know when you're in it when you're deep in and you understand we'll hold on you just took this vote what you're saying this thing or you're speaking to this group and you have so many times politicians will just either they don't go face their constituents or they come in they talk and they leave it me without having to talk to them that happens so much so that's maybe more of my long form point it's just that you know if you're unwilling to have the deep long discussions and own up to things that you've messed up on even because I don't think any of us would say look if if if you've learned and you admit that that you're beyond repair but none of these people

1:05:49are saying they did anything wrong they're not saying they took a wrong vote not saying they should do this differently but to Oliver's question I I think that's that that's the question of our democracy in many ways like okay well why do they do this look at all the institutional capture look at all the money that they're being offered look at the perks that they're getting we've incentivized the wrong things accountability needs to be what's incentivized I don't know exactly how to do that but it's something that's on my mind I think we need people that will stand up to politicians too and I understand why you wouldn't and but there are people that can and I think that people think that politicians have a lot more power than they actually do yeah in fact I just got a cease and assist from a congressman not long ago and who said he was gonna fucking sue me and so I did a rebuttal video I talked to my attorney turns out we could actually sue his ass and maybe

1:06:54we should yeah but I don't like getting into litigation and all this shit but I wanted to prove a point I'm not going to let a fucking congressman or any politician push me around no fucking way yeah could you imagine letting another man push you around in front of your fucking kids not on buddy and more people need to take that stance and to be like fuck you cease and assist you don't want me to talk fuck off you won't silence me and I dare you to fucking sue me do it I fucking dare you know what I mean and what happened not a damn thing I'm still here I'm still doing the same show still talking about the same fucking things and I did that because I wanted to set an example and show people these fuckers aren't as powerful as you think they are they're just pieces of shit that's all they are treat them like like it's just man I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting angry I'm losing my words but it's just but that I'm serious you know what I mean and it's it did it proved it's like look at that calling the bluff in that and it's like

1:08:00why pull that rip cord if you're not gonna try to follow the way through it or if you don't know what you're doing and I think going back to like citizens and voters it's like again people should be up in arms about what's going on you know I've talked to voters about what Elon Musk uncovered with all of the doge stuff and then that our representatives are voting to put it right back in the budget it's like like that we're all raw raw to rod about it they were all that and you know this is like a conundrum I have because I would say I don't I don't I'm not like that like I don't I don't get how you could raw raw for somebody like I have like this fear of feeling I can imposter all the time about things like I but I don't want to get into a subject I don't know a lot about I don't want to you know I get out over my skis on things and so when I see people doing things like this where they're like we're so in favor of cutting all this waste and doge

1:09:00and then when it comes time to it and the party leadership says no you need to have it in there say I don't know what I don't know how you could do that like that isn't a part of my genetic pool they sold their soul yeah and so I don't I don't get it and even as you were talking about I'm thinking about it I'm just like how do you get it like we have a federal government that's sending 87 million dollars a week in cash to the Taliban yeah that's where that flag came from the guy that broke that he was an Afghan-American and worked in army intelligence but recovered that in Kabul from the Taliban fucking burning it yeah and then came here on the show gave it to me and told everybody that we're funding that was like two or three years ago yeah still funding them you know I was reaching something bottom for over 20 years me personally spent 14 years in my life in and out of those countries only to fund them

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1:11:04charges may apply for licenses see home depot.com slash license numbers you're talking about getting upset you know I think back to growing up in the 2000s when we you know my friends many people went off to rack and I've got to say and thinking about the 10 trillion dollars we we've spent on all of that and meanwhile we don't even have programs for our veterans when they come home you know my great grandpa when his brother was off in war war one and then and then that ended and then during war war two my great grandpa's a bit older he would actually sign up locally to teach veterans how to farm when they came back from war war two and that just got me interested in like what was it like back then for veterans coming home because they saw some just terrible things and I couldn't believe the extent of the programs that were in place to help them well was to start learn how to farm apprentice paid by a farm we we created thousands of farmers

1:12:11after war war two with our troops that came home and then I look at what's happened to my friends that I came home and they're just dropped in and then we see like some of the highest suicide rates I think it's under farmers now yeah I think farmers has the highest rates what I talk to people and I all the time it's like look in that time that we've lost 10,000 family farms and I over the past 20 years we lost 10,000 of them the suicide rate amongst our farmers we're not 50% and let me tell you I don't know of any other politician in Iowa that's talking about about me none 50 one up 50% in the last 20 years holy shit and so my message to the people of Iowa is do not get distracted away from the things that actually matter that really matter your neighbors dying in that way your veterans dying in that way all while we're being distracted by this you know tweak

1:13:12in a regulation or here we're going to get a little bit lower tax rates you know I tell people we have the fastest rate of new cancer in the history human civilization and our kids are leaving our state faster than 46 other states if your kids are leaving and your people are dying you're not winning that's not winning and so I look at my campaign at the four things and those two things are two of the top things that I'm focused on and what dumb founds me is that I'm not joined by a chorus of people that are just like of politicians that are just like yes finally we've been waiting for somebody else to talk about this because they're not talking about it you when I found out that Iowa's kids are leaving the state at a rate faster than 46 other states I found that out because I was curious as to what our rate was and I started looking up I found out in 2025 an extensive study was done on this and I had I have actually had politicians in the state reach out to me say where did you get that information I'm like it's publicly available and it maybe is the number one stat you

1:14:15could possibly track as an elected official are the people that are growing up here wanting to stay or leave and I'm having to bring this up in this way which I'm happy to do but it's like like we need people to focus on the big issues and that's the reason I'm running I mean they don't know because they're spending all their time hanging out with lobbyists that's the truth and what's funny but like it's it's real they don't give a fuck like all they care about is hanging out with lobbyists so they can enrich themselves that's that's that's that's that this is why I go I something as simple as like knowing who put something into a piece of legislation because I know it's not the legislators I know this stuff's not coming from them this up is written far too specifically it's coming from industry and that's the cozy relationship I guess something that surprised me being in this maybe more than anything I don't know more than anything but it's

1:15:15a big surprise is how little you research you have to do to become a very informed politician like at the top 1% how much you have to care to get away from the talking points of one party or the other and do your own research some of the things we're going to talk about with glyphosate you know I can't believe that they're just not on billboards everywhere I mean it's so egregious of what's happened and but when I when we go into this a little bit when when I first was talking about these pests said I've been watching glyphosate for years part of the reason was my dad was a 28 year crop consultant in Iowa and so his job was to go into field inspect for pests weeds bugs fungus things like that and then write a report and send it to the farmer to say here's what you should apply what chemicals you should apply because that's just what they what they do

1:16:18what they did and then you fast forward to about five six years ago my dad gets diagnosed with non-hotchins lymphoma the exact type of cancer that's implicated in all of these roundup lawsuits holy shit man and so I'm looking at this from the standpoint of like and I think you could probably tell already talking to me like like well I hope I care about this stuff like I really do and so what I'm thinking about my own dad is like how how much of that short in his lifespan he's in remission but how many fewer days do I get with my dad and the amount of funerals that I see for people that are dying in their 60s when their parents live to be 80 there's a generational wisdom that's being completely lost and so when you talk about all these things that like are going on in the world and in DC and the government where our money is going to all these things it's like there's not something more important than human life

1:17:23and when we're willing to turn our head away from that to protect industry I mean like it's time for revolt basically and that and that's like you know with with my campaign that's like you know like I said I've been told many times I actually was told sitting gosh I was meeting with a high well with an elected official in Washington DC once this is six eight months ago and in that meeting I thought it was kind of on the same page with me on some of these things I think he is to some extent but people usually don't hear somebody talk about it with like the passion or the interest that I have I got done talking about what's going on in my state from a cancer standpoint and he literally said if you say these things on the on the campaign trail they will effing kill you and I laughed I just but I looked around at the people with them then

1:18:24another laughing and I look that could be figurative of course likely but they know they know the power these lobbies have and so when you look at what's at stake is the life of my people you know like when you go into a gas station in Iowa and you see a collection jar for a kid with leukemia or maybe two or three now and all the while you'll hear a politician say something like in Iowa they say this whole time well we need to figure out what's causing it we don't know what's causing it what's causing the cancer rate can't figure it out and what one thing that you mentioned and I kept hearing this and again like it was being spouted off without any research done to it and I thought well what's the situation or is it they kept saying well yeah we have one of the highest levels of radon in the country and what I looked into this I was like well what's the truth to this

1:19:24and it's like well first off radon was deposited here by glaciers glacier glacial activity ground this down and spread it out across the state that's where it came from so thousands of years we've had this in the past 30 years we've had a hockey stick like graph on cancer rates in our state and so this is part of what I'm fighting against and I have to continue to say this this is not about farmers meaning like I'm not against farmers I am one of them I love them they're my neighbors and family and they're getting cancer this is about large agriculture conglomerates lying to their customers and to the people about the safety of their products and getting away with it I mean cancer isn't even an organic disease so it would have to be caused by something that's not organic to earth glyphosate gee I wonder let's beg so oftentimes this this conversation goes

1:20:28like to glyphosate but I will just say to farmers that are my friends as well you will they all know these companies are extorting them financially they know it they watch what's happening they watch that they're getting charged more than what these same companies charge a foreign a farmer to foreign country they know that every time there's an increase in commodity prices their input costs are going to go up that farm bankruptcies increased by 70 percent in Iowa last year and John Deere raised their prices by five and they know that truth that they're just being extracted from what I'm trying to bring a voice to is this idea that they're also lying to you and they know they're lying to you we have their documents that say and show that they're lying to you how are they lying what specifically are they lying about the safety of the products that they that they don't I mean that they don't believe it causes cancer so let me take a step back here

1:21:35and just talk about agrochemicals for a minute you know something that'd be very interesting to know about glyphosate is from the traditional metrics that that have been tracked for pesticides and you know people talk about pesticides pesticides a blanket term and that's it includes herbicides fungicides insecticides like different products that kill pests and pests are defined not just like a bug but weeds and and bugs and fungus things like that glyphosate from an acute toxicity standpoint of like if you get it on you is going to hurt you is one of the safest we have like one of the safest are you serious yes from acute toxicity when you look at other chemicals and I've talked about a chemical a lot that's called periquot periquot you've probably heard of heard of this you know in the 70s and 80s it was used to burn

1:22:38down marijuana fields and the more on drugs also you can if anybody is interested in learning more about periquot you can read about the Japanese periquot poisonings or somebody is putting a very small amount into bottles of vending machines and the people drink it and die 48 52 hours later periquot is so toxic that is actually used in research settings to induce Parkinson's and rats and mice it actually interacts with oxygen within the plant to create something that's called superoxide basically a highly unstable form of oxygen and then I'm going to simplify this but basically it burns it from the inside out it is a product that if you apply onto a plant in a matter of hours it's destroyed it is unbelievably toxic I say that to just bring up this point when we talk about this issue we're going to get into the issue of agency capture of our government

1:23:40because periquot is actually originally formulated by syngenta the Chinese now Chinese own company syngenta sells this product still in the country of China bands it they won't even allow it to be sold in the country of the that owns the company 50 countries ban this product and if you want to spray this product as a farmer as an applicator here's all you need you need to do you have to take an applicator's class which is an online class that lasts between 30 and 60 minutes and you can go buy and use this product there have been stories about people in medical journals that have gotten through spraying for crops have gotten enough on their skin that they literally just died from topical exposure and it does the same thing in our body what it does is it enters in

1:24:45and it actually accumulates in the lungs it reacts with oxygen and then it starts to create what's called super oxide and it will I'm using a simple term burn you from the inside out it'll just start to kill you and long term exposure at lower doses is gives you a two and a half times more likelihood of getting Parkinson's because the neurons in your brain the dopamine neurons that operate with they operate with a lot of oxygen it starts to kill those because it's looking for oxygen we know all this data this it like I said they use it in laboratories to create Parkinson's and it's still legal to be sprayed it's still used on hundreds of thousands of acres in Iowa alone so we talk about the safety of products and whether or not our agencies are there to like protect us they are not they've been captured and I have sympathy for farmers because they're in this cycle

1:25:53where they're using products and they're trying to fight weeds and all these things and they are operating on razor thin margins where the opportunity to try some other method of farming is almost nonexistent and so many of these people just feel stuck with that damn so paracquot is one of the most poisonous substances literally one if you had a spoon and you just had enough to cover the tip of the spoon and you ingested it you die and we have tremendous amounts of evidence on this and so when I get to glyphosate you know often I'll see people on X or somewhere saying like if you think glyphosate is bad what about this about what paracquot I'm like I understand that but when you get to glyphosate there's so much that's being obscured about the truth of it and what's happening with it just to the basic point of the two separate types that is traditional glyphosate the molecule

1:27:01that's pure and the formulated glyphosate base herbicides these are the ones that are up to 50 times more toxic the EPA does not require the registrant testing on these just on the molecule on the traditional glyphosate so when the EU banned our version of glyphosate they did it because the formulation was so toxic it actually pure glyphosate has trouble getting into your bloodstream without the surfactants that I mentioned earlier but when you formulate it specifically to penetrate the dermis of a plant it'll do the same thing to your skin 30% of what's on your skin will enter your bloodstream 10% of your cardiac output goes into your bone marrow and in bone marrow it disrupts a cell replication cycle but here's something that I haven't yet talked about and I what that I want your listeners to understand is that many people who avoid products that could have

1:28:03glyphosate in them residues of glyphosate that eat organic diets and all these things they'll still show up that they have glyphosate in their urine and the reason glyphosate is so talked about and so dangerous is because it's the most widely used herbicide in the history of the world it's used everywhere everywhere not just on ag applications consumers buy it at Home Depot glyphosate is a key later it's looking to bind it's actually one of the most powerful key laders meaning I won't I won't go deep into that but it's looking to bind things what is it bind most closely to what does it grab onto calcium so there's actually papers coming out now that are that are saying they're theorizing that the reason this is happening by the way 1983 Monsanto did a study a rat study that they did not ever publish publicly but the EPA had and the EPA referenced so we know basically what's in it and in that study in 1983 they were

1:29:06testing where does glyphosate stay the longest what tissues and where it stayed the longest was bone and what they're what the thought is now is that the reason it is is glyphosate is actually going into your bone marrow it's attaching to calcium in your bones and it's creating basically a repository of glyphosate on a slow release cycle and so when you're releasing it into the bone marrow on a slow slow really cycle like that and you're disrupting the cell replication cycle because this is how cancer starts is that you damaged the DNA and we know glyphosate is genotoxic we know this that it's creating like a bank of glyphosate in there and that's why people who have stopped eating this stuff for a long time will have that continue to come out in their urine and so what's happening with this is that we know that it causes non-Hodgkin's lymphoma we have a ton of data and evidence that it's genotoxic and that the cancer that's going to come out of this is

1:30:10non-Hodgkin's lymphoma primarily but when the EPA doesn't even require you to test now for the people out there that are going to challenge me on this they don't require you to do the long form chronic toxicity tests on the glyphosate based herbicides the ones that are formulated that are way more toxic they require that just on the product and this is how so much of this is obscured you can pull out study after study that will show that this product pure is it doesn't have a high risk profile which by the way most of those are industry studies we know this like the EPA or in the EU band this version of glyphosate the industry submitted 1500 studies many of them they wouldn't even allow publicly to be released but they're all industry studies and so the big differences in the EU's determination on the safety and the EPA's was three primary things number one the EU used

1:31:13the EU used glyphosate based herbicides the more toxic version that that everybody's actually using nobody's spraying pure glyphosate number two they looked at dose dependent exposure so not just like what's the overall cancer rate and then there was one other category that they looked at that differentiated greatly it's slipping my mind right now but what the EU came to is that yes this is this is a probable carcinogen and they have far lower levels that are allowed in their bread far low levels a lot in their food so the agencies have been captured and now we are facing a situation where in Iowa there's between six and nine agriculture chemicals within the wells in our state where it's everywhere is it even possible to get rid of it yeah you know here's the here I had somebody once tell me recently he's like hey you need to be more positive because I

1:32:17like I mean out of the wells yet well can you get it out of there can it be you know I haven't done the the research on wells in soil yes so like glyphosate will stay in soil for a very long time however there are products there are very natural products it's broken down by Bifidote bacteria very interesting just on on the or not Bifidote lactobacillus bacteria breaks it down and so we have amazing scientists and researchers that are helping to develop better products but we have such a captured agency structure that oftentimes they're not able to get to market many times farmers have been lied to to say that like people that think glyphosate is bad or you know they're liberals hate farmers and all these things when we're the exact opposite so as far as getting out wells I don't know that but I do know we can get it out of the ground I there's some really interesting studies have been done on that and it you can 80-90% of it within seven months using certain natural products

1:33:19you know if I could close on on the glyphosate piece on one thing it would be just to help people understand in this debate that's going on right now all over about what is happening with residual levels in our food you know Rhonda Santis just recently had that is surgeon general released the findings of glyphosate and bread and when you talk to people that are in the industry and there's so many of these paid people that are on social media on x that are just like out there to put out this information defending monsanto defending bear defending glyphosate defending what they are saying is like agriculture when it's when that's not what they're doing they're not defending agriculture because they're also exploiting our farmers you know when you what they often talk about is that yes but the exposure levels are so low they're way below the tolerance levels that are allowed and this is something that

1:34:21really infuriated me as I dug deep into this when you look at tolerance levels that are allowed in food products you think that when you hear this it's like okay well if in wheat five parts per million are allowed in wheat you think okay well that must be a level that's been deemed to be like safe because if you have more than that you can actually be illegal to sell the product you can't sell it it's it's been considered adulterated and so I was looking into this and what I found out was this that level can be changed by the industry if they petition the EPA so for instance in the 1990s the allowable level of glyphosate on oats was 0.1 parts per million when the industry started moving to desiccation spraying this product to kill the plant at the end of the growing cycle when they started to change the desiccation they lobbied the EPA to change

1:35:25how much is allowed on oats and remember if you had over 0.1 parts per million in the 90s it was illegal to sell the product of oats they lobbied and got a 20,000 percent increase holy shit 200 times what was previously allowed was now allowed and here's why because that's what they needed to be able to use the product to spray at the end of the growing cycle so they wouldn't say what do we need this to be allowed at what how much glyphosate is actually on the product when it after we do this desiccation process and that's what we need to petition the EPA to get and Monsanto did that and they got it and so the upper level of this you see the the common question be like okay well what's the limit well they use what's a reference dose modeling basically the limit is when it gets to a point where they determine that if it goes higher and there's a buffer there if it goes higher it'll start causing organ damage holy shit so there's a blank check to just

1:36:33say hey now it's five parts per million is allowed on wheat but if we have a new practice that's going to increase that we'll just petition the government and get them to go to 10 parts per million even though they just told us that if you're above five it's illegal to sell because it's not safe it's captured and so the industry's running the show and the more people dig into this the more you're going to realize that we're being lied to in misled and part of my mission in this is not just to become a governor it's to give a voice to these issues to people who are talking about them and have other people that aren't paying attention to this realize just like the medical establishment captured us during covid just like many so many of the other lives we see in our government do we have big business running the show at the detriment of the health of our people I mean before we end on glyphosate what do you think about this executive order 18th of February

1:37:38invoking the defense production act to boost domestic glyphosate production critical to national security love how they threw that in there section three of the order confers all immunity provided for in section 707 of the act to domestic producers the act states no person shall be held liable for any act resulting from compliance with the order bear is the only domestic producer e wg president can cook in quotes trump just gave bear a license to poison people full stop rfk jr who won a 289 million dollar verdict against monstantos is an attorney endorsed the order claiming it's about national security here's some maps for you we're gonna put these up on screen this is a map of the highest concentrated states

1:38:39of glyphosate guess what number one is not anything I'm proud of Iowa here is another map we're gonna put this on screen too this is a concentration of cancer what states have the highest concentration of cancer guess what state that is Sean you're saying things that are good and get me very upset Iowa so okay so there's those now since since we're all fucking concerned about national security here in 2025 alone 618 thousand people died of cancer in the united states now isn't that a fucking national security concern rfk president trump isn't that a fucking national security concern i mean i don't know what fucking scientists you guys are talking to but here's the evidence i know it's fucking mind blowing right it's that simple we just

1:39:43fucking solve the problem but you know the national security so let the fuck like what's more 618 thousand people died in 2025 and we're going on about a fentanyl crisis yeah we're a hundred thousand people died this over six fucking times worse than the fentanyl crisis that i'm all about stop in the fentanyl crisis let's get fucking real here what so what is the national security concern do you know i don't know the national see i mean look if you want to talk about specifically the national security concern the only thing that would ever make sense to me in this is that we're about to go to war that would be it is that we're about to go to war and that they say that if we disrupt this in the import of it that we're going to disrupt the the food production of the country but i i've heard nothing about let me say you know i hate the politics of these things because when that came out i was sitting in my house and i was it just popped up

1:40:43and i said what is this because you have to understand i like i've been fighting these things mm-hmm i've read the monsanto cases when they're in court hundreds and hundreds of pages because i actually care about it i want to know the arguments i want to know how does a jury keep finding them guilty and i do know how they keep finding them guilty and they are guilty i've been talking to people in my own state about not passing these pesticide immunity bills even people that have as their constituency the companies and just saying like look here's what's happening they're lying to us and i can prove this i know how they're lying and i've been you i have came out as a part of my campaign to not put my head in the sand and deny the truth that's in front of me of what's going on so that's the backdrop of which i read this and you know the most common thing i'm reading about it is that it doesn't provide product liability immunity that's a complete lie

1:41:44there's nothing in the executive order the defense production act or 707 that excludes product liability if the order from the USDA which by the way this is going to be managed by the USDA is to maintain full production and availability of the product that they're ordered to do this they'll use the same type of defenses that were used by monsanto by the way when they created agent orange and poisoned so many people they the government in that case now this was defense i get that in the sense of where where at war but we invoked the defense production act but in that case when they were used in agent orange and there's so many harms from it because it was a very nasty nasty chemical the government ended up paying 50 billion dollars to people hurt by it while the companies paid about 180 million my bigger fear about this is that what we've just done is we have offloaded liability onto the taxpayer and so right when this came out and this is

1:42:48again about me not being a politician i've always stopped position to it and it's not a popular thing to do but when it comes to taking a stand for the right thing you have to do it and that could have negative repercussions for me for sure but none would be as bad as what you're saying about me going along with this you know Jordan Peterson said something i thought was very was very deep he said when you have something to say silence is a lie and that's really difficult in politics because i think in something like this the easiest thing for me to do would be to not immediately put out a tweet saying that my tweet basically said this there's no potential ban on glyphosate there's no pending ban on glyphosate there's no pending shortage of glyphosate there are only pending lawsuits of americans who have been harmed by this product this must be reversed and so when i look at this and i hear all these people saying it

1:43:53doesn't provide him absolutely will provide immunity the word is used right in it that's on purpose when they go to court after they invoke the events production act when when bear goes to court on new cases because they're still not putting a cancer warning on the label if they just put a cancer warning on the label future cases would be null then void because the entire thing is about failure to warn that's all they have to do is admit culpability now what will that do it'll create a cascade effect of people that jump into lawsuits because well now you're admitting it and so they can't to save face instead of doing the right thing when they go to court in the future they will hold a piece of paper that says which has precedent that courts will grant immunity citing the DPA they'll hold that and say we were ordered to do this we didn't have a choice the safety of the product is assumed in the order but basically so

1:44:59you know my my belief and you know without going too far into this is that I believe and I might be naive on this look you hold me accountable but I want Donald Trump to know the truth about this I want him to understand that there's lobbyists that are doing something trying to get him to do something doing something that will end up harming the people that he cares about and loves I mean he he there's a big talk about his how much he loves Iowa and I think that look I would love to get an audience with the guy and just say this is what's happening in our state and these are what these lobbying groups are doing but I came out right after that was released that same night before I I mean I had to do a lot more research on it to understand how how bad it really was but I came out and said this has to be reversed and that as I told you before you don't need immunity for a safe product the idea that

1:46:07the courts are coming to the wrong decision is completely wrong bears paid out tens of billions of dollars they've settled hundred over a hundred thousand cases and they have the best attorneys in the world they know what they're doing they understand this immunity is the wrong way like immunity for me like you want the vaccine immunity act cost tremendous issues this will cost tremendous issues from a health standpoint as well we've been we just pulled the map up this is what we're living in it's not a fucking coincidence no you can't concentration a glyphosate highest concentration a cancer it's why I'm running questions come in man I want to take a break sure let's take a break we don't bring on new partners often but sleep is too important to ignore when you're not

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1:49:18periquot periquot nobody's talking about it none of the senators none of the congressman and other people run for you they only want talking about it yeah you know and and I'm just gonna summarize it we don't have to rehash it all but I said yeah that's because nobody they can't talk about it we just got done talking about the lobbies they can't talk about it yeah and they don't give a shit and it's I think that's where people are in disbelief that the human being that they elected into power doesn't give a shit about them I don't think that's computing in people's brains they don't care they don't care about you they care about who's lobbying them who's telling them what to do they justified in their mind you know they they they is all human beings do every time we're doing something we shouldn't be doing you always go through well you know you it's it's made it's the mental gymnastics that people will do to justify a shit that they shouldn't be doing in their head is

1:50:22fucking amazing yeah you know and we've all done it but this is just or it's another level of evil you know that they're just choosing just choosing to believe the lie I guess a choice to believe the lie because if you're gonna choose to believe a lobbyist and something this important and not be willing to go as deep as I have or other people you know this is one thing that I've loved about Bobby Kennedy is that you know there's this thought of all the time about you know if you're elected if you're in a position of authority what you should what you should be doing is getting experts around you and delegating to these experts but the experts brought us the COVID response that we had and what you have to be willing to do is say I'm not delegating the most important things I need to be I need to have the proper amount of knowledge to make the right decision on these issues so so when you know Bobby's talking about vaccines he understands the

1:51:30situation and I can bring some expert in that like is completely counter to him when he knows the truth about what's happening but when you say this that the politicians aren't talking about about this it's true it's very true I mean I I right now I'm on the political sense I'm yelling into a void but on a voter sense I can't go to a room you know we've had a couple town halls of the past week one was over 150 people showed up now the one was close to 80 in these in you know small smaller restaurants packed house and when I get to the fourth point about what my campaigns about which is stopping the cancer crisis in my state and I talk about what's going on with big companies lying to us about the safety of the products 89% of the heads in the in the audience are nodding these are Republicans the voters know what's going on the problem is there hasn't been 10 why do you say it's just Republicans what do you mean you don't think Democrats give a

1:52:34shit about cancer I just mean in this room it's Republicans so no but this no just to clear in this in my rooms I'm talking to Republicans in the primary and so traditionally Republicans are the ones that are not going against what some of these big companies are saying but I'm saying the voters they know they know what's going on and yes the beauty of of of what I am running on and the hope that I am running on whether it's keeping our kids in the state or saving our family farms or making our education system number one or saving the cancer solving the cancer crisis is that these are bipartisan issues I have people comment on acts and things like this that are you know criticizing Iowa Democrats for saying how do we let a Republican beat us to the punch on this how do we do that and it's both sides on the political side on the on the elected side of politicians both sides have been silent on this completely and then they'll give excuses like

1:53:34alcohol rates or they'll give excuses like radon or they'll say it's it's we need to have a greater tax on cigarettes this is this is happening right now in Iowa and I'm like saying to people cigarettes have an inelastic demand curve meaning when you tax cigarettes you're just taking more money because they're addictive product and they're going to continue using them meanwhile Nevada has one of the highest smoking rates in the United States and one of the lowest cancer rates this is about again coming back to being willing to tell the truth even if it means somebody tells me that they're going to destroy me you know that means they're going to come out and attack me or my family or whatever it is this is what I knew I was getting into it's why this conversation is so important because the voters are talking about this the people are talking about it you know right now in Iowa we have the world's largest nitrate removal system on our water supply in Des Moines meaning from the runoff that comes off of farm fields I can talk deeply about what's happening

1:54:39but the nitrogen that's ending up from fertilizer in our streams and rivers is getting to our major population center and it's so much that we have the largest one in the world to remove nitrates and often it can't keep up meaning they have to like put notices in that you can't water your lawn because you're stressing the system too much because we can't filter these chemicals out fast enough are you serious yes this is happening last summer in Iowa you know wow I mean in what is what what are what is the state placed population wise it's not a densely populated state it's not like it's over put it's not like Florida where we're worried about flush in the fucking toilets because so many people are moving there and they're just destroying all the farm land there and turning it into condos and apartments it's crazy you know but there but Iowa isn't like that you don't have a house five feet from another house five feet from another house you know what I mean yeah it's it's it's spread out it is it's very

1:55:42lowly dense what do you know what it is I'll bet it's in the lowest but very low population density and I I mean our populations three just around three million and I don't know what the density though is but it's very it's very sparsely populated so that's what I'm saying in the have the largest water treatment plan to take what night what did you say it's so like nitrogen fertilizer out like look at that shit man you know it's not even that many people using the fucking water do you have the biggest one in the world yeah and they can't keep up that's insane they can't keep that's how many fucking chemicals are getting dumped in we actually had this winter so what happens is now look again when I look at this I don't look at it from the standpoint of like farmers are purposefully doing these things a lot of times look at the associations that know better and they know what's going on and they give cover but

1:56:46in Iowa what's happened to cause this is that one of the technologies that farmers have used most recently to increase yield has been field tiling so three feet under the ground or so there's a perforated pipe it takes basically what happens when you have a really wet season a lot of rain will come down the water table will rise when the water table rises these it it moves into waterways areas that like water goes into in these tiles these these pipes bring the water out and daylight it dump it directly into a stream and so over the past 20 years we've started what's called pattern tiling which is like we we are putting these corrugated tubes all over the fields 10 and 20 foot separation and it's to make sure that the land is farmable so it's draining water what's happening there is that when you have a really wet season the water table rises and you have

1:57:48an idris monor you have you have nitrogen that's been applied to the field and it rains well it can't soak down into the soil to purify so it goes directly into these tiles and the tiles drain directly into the streams and the streams drain directly into what in Iowa is a raccoon river is one of them a raccoon river is either the most or the second most polluted tributary in the United States wow wow and so when I look at this I just say we're probably swimming tube in all kinds of ships we have so many lakes that that that there's notices on signs that you make you can't swim in them are you because of the because of the chemical there's there's so many many products in there holy you could your listeners can go on and google this and you'll find stories of like a woman this is last year maybe two years ago who didn't know that jumped in and her skin got all red like it was just you know burning but we have lakes in Iowa with such high levels of nitrates and

1:58:49products that swimming is barred in them in Iowa the Eden of the United States what people this is what I go back to I think when people look at Iowa they think of like the Norman Rockwell painting of like the cows on the hill and you have this in the beautiful stream and you know when general Albert Albert Lee was coming through Iowa when they're first on their trek to going up they're actually going up the Des Moines River when he was coming through Iowa he actually said that in all of his travels and mind you he'd been all over the country at this point he'd never seen a place as beautiful as this that's what we came from now Iowa is the most terraformed place I believe on the face of the earth meaning we've done more to our landscape so when I talk about the water quality issue it's a hot button issue but I've talked to developers in Des Moines who have said I can't even sell a house if I don't pre-install

1:59:52reverse osmosis system in here and now I think when I talk this on the campaign I just get back to this I believe that Iowa families are just looking for something that they can count on clean waters one of them having a safe community is another one an education system that's not bottom half like these are the common things that people are just looking for and it's not too much to ask that your government focuses on giving you your government focuses on making sure things that you should just be able to count on are there here's one thing I'll tell you about the the nitrate removal system so it'll remove I only know the exact number of how many pounds of of nitrogen up until recently after they removed it they just dumped it back in the river get the fuck out of here you know I'm serious I'm serious they now have some biological methods

2:00:54to where it'll break down the the products but the the way to get rid of it was to put it back in the river so again we have to have clean water or state we have to have good education our farmers have to be able to make money and not be extorted and I believe that one of my goals I've said to people is that like over 20 years we've lost 10,000 family farms there's no term on the son of the governor of Iowa and I've been made it very clear like this is not what I want to do for my life but I I want to make sure there's 10,000 new family farms in the state or that by the end of my second term the majority of the food served in Iowa schools actually comes from our state common sense things that if we had if we had our eye on the ball we'd say this is just good to do we should employ our people supporting our kids to grow their food

2:01:58but it hasn't 95% imported and it's garbage like we know what how many other people are running in the primary there's five people running in it five people yeah because as of this recording two day polymarket are you familiar with polymarket they give you a 25% chance of winning Iowa the governor of republican primary on June 2nd we're just getting started that's pretty good we're I think it was 6% then you went on Tucker and I went what up and you know you know this is all about getting a message out what do you think why do you think why do you think polymarket jump that much I mean I we nobody knows who I am what's resonating with yeah I think the number one thing is nobody knows who I am I've never ran for office so one of the people on there the only reason that there is high as they are is because they have and they've been elected and they have name recognition but I know that the message that we're putting forward about putting Iowa first about saving our family farm so the things I just mentioned I know those things resonate I don't

2:03:01need a poll to tell me they resonate I hear it from my neighbors I yeah so often what I'm talking to them they're talking about issues in private that politicians aren't talking about a public they just they're not talking about you go to the cafe and you lean in and you hear what what the farmers are talking about it's the things I'm talking about the problem is they felt like they haven't had anybody I believe and I'm not gonna speak for them but and this is how I felt that there's nobody out there that's willing to give them a voice this one to say we shouldn't give a Chinese company millions of dollars of tax breaks paid for by Iowans that we shouldn't have a data center getting 529 million dollars in property tax abatement that we shouldn't allow our farmers to be exploited or let hedge funds buy our homes that Iowa being an Iowan in the living state about means something significant and what it means is not about an economy it means something about culture and who we are as a people you know one of the things that I've had to wrestle with in this whole

2:04:10process is coming away from this idea of like libertarian economic thinking which was very pervasive when I was a kid when I was growing up and that the only thing we should care about is what the market says is good the market will just determine it and I don't like I don't know how you could look back and what's happened to our country to our culture to the hollowing out of our communities I mean look even something as simple as in these small towns we've always had these country food stores well they're growing out of business and what's coming in dollar general and who is the largest shareholder dollar general black rock so the money that used to circulate within my small community because the owner of the grocery store say they're actually I'm very thankful we do have a country foods but dollar general set up shop 200 yards away the Dow is at 50,000 I don't know what you're complaining about Zach the Dow is at 50,000 well my our communities are not there our communities are struggling like really struggling

2:05:18and there's the idea that I talked about in the economic thinking I call it a religion of economic thinking I think people have been captured by this religion that says like whatever the market says is best is best and I'm talking mostly politicians and people and think tanks and all these things that don't spend time in the community and I've said something I think people think is kind of radical it's that look I'm going to choose community values over shareholder value every day because that's what my great great grandfather was here for that's why he came here he didn't come here to make some company and I'm not against business but the extractive nature of what's happened in business in my state is is undeniable and it's making our state unrecognizable just when you look at the 24 million acres of ground that's in in crops and and us losing 10,000 family farms over 20 years like that's life that's stories one of my favorite stories that I talk about this and I'm bringing this up now because I just

2:06:22mentioned the idea of stories Teddy Roosevelt famously said that I intend to be a preaching president to talk about the values of what it means to be an American and he did I mean we got a man in the arena from him something that I have to find myself reading a lot to remind myself okay it's been a lot a lot harder things when I go out and I talk to people I'm at a event I'm at an event I'll start to tell my family history a bit that I've mentioned to you there's not one person in the room usually that if I didn't go back one or two generations with him and their family story that we just don't have an almost identical story of people who came over here looking to provide a better life and pass something on to their kids but like in our case that was farmland in a major way and to create something that they didn't have for themselves and to build the church we have a shared story and my hope is to be able to be somebody who's preaching about that

2:07:30that the fact that more island served in the civil war per capita in the interstate is something to be dang proud of that we should just like but that should be taught in every single history class in Iowa that the people who came here before you were courageous they wanted to build something for you and they were never going to meet you and you should be proud of your heritage one of my favorite stories in our farm I'm a pilot my dad's a pilot both my grandpa's were pilots and my grandpa in 1940s he bought a tailor craft airplane for $700 and great grandpa mode of runway in the beanfield and he learned to fly there and that became his whole profession career as I mentioned and you know that took him off the farm he was the first generation to leave the farm and he went off and you know he worked at Iowa companies as a pilot he's very good

2:08:33at what he did he's very proud of what he did and I think that back then that was kind of the idea that take a step away from the farm try something new and I'm very thankful for what he did because he provided a life for me and my family and my grandma who's 93 years old today who's still living on his pension and on like what he created for her so when I look at me coming back full circle I think about my grandpa like all the time at the farm whose initials were carved in that post and just to say why am I doing this I'm trying to do something that I hope would make him proud they'd say see what's going on in our country see what's going on in our world and say we've got to get back to these roots so that's my mission I think that's a great mission that makes like your message is going to resonate with a lot of people I know it is

2:09:34everybody I talked to is worried about does it does it do that I mean I'm I don't even give a shit Republican Democrat anymore like I said I just want somebody with a spine that's going to stand up for the people you know it sounds like you might be that guy and and well don't endorse me yet wait to see what I do oh I'm not endorsing that I'm not I just heard you talk about the other ones what let me what let me I got and prove myself I'm just thankful for you let me have this conversation and hopefully bring a voice to people that have felt like they didn't have one that's a lot to you sir cheers no matter where you're watching the Sean Ryan show from if you get anything out of this at all

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