28- (video) "If I Make It" & Inkom Last Man Standing

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Becca and Jon talk about the ups and downs of ultra running, cave exploring, and what it really takes to push through hard things. Becca shares some updates on her cave project and how much community support matters during races, while Jon gets into the risks and rewards of chasing endurance. We also swap stories about travel headaches, everyday adversity, and the legend Rob Apple—who reminds us all to stay humble and grateful no matter how many miles we run. A mix of laughs, lessons, and a whole lot of grit.