207 | Shaw on AI agents, building AI RuneScape and P(doom)

Jon talks to Eliza Labs Shaw Walters about his work on AI agent frameworks, and why blockchain games are a focus.

• [1:00] An introduction to Shaw Walters, the creator of AI agent framework ElizaOS.
• [3:10] "I see myself as a comedian and performance artist. I love the joke that becomes true."
• [4:48] "What I'm focused on is agents that get you your time back and agents that can play games."
• [6:06] "Attention is an important part of capitalism. If you're not spicy, pmarca doesn't read your tweet."
• [7:25] "We're one generation away from ... I don't need better. I need cheaper."
• [9:25] "I still have skill arbitrage on the average person. But in a year, it won't matter."
• [11:56] "We're making AI RuneScape. It's going to cost us $80,000 and take 4 months."
• [13:08] "Now we have dream tech - you can build the uncompromising, exactly what you want."
• [16:26] Can copyright be enforced in this new world of online, onchain abundance?
• [18:43] Is P(doom) a scalar or a dynamic multi-dimensional vector?
• [21:18] "I'm here to build the world I want to see."
• [22:10] "I've always felt the most important things to do came from the silliest things."
• [23:35] Explaining AI agent social prediction trading platform Babylon.
• [26:23] Does Shaw enjoy being a high-profile commentator?
• [28:40] "I made a Chrome extension that blocks haters. But it also blocked a lot of my friends."
• [33:35] AI means software companies will have to build their most generous, growth-oriented version.
• [34:07] Help Shaw build "AI Runescape", an open source project called Hyperscape AI.