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36:45I love you. I love you. Wait. Yes, that's an enormous misunderstanding about the arts and crafts in Greenhouse. In Greenhouse one of the works of art, a man who is from India, and who can spin. He is the active spin. I just heard that. I incorrig預äle with a beautiful device which I use to clean two bowls of applicants.

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38:52Mostly because I had already registered on the voting list. We don't take away water blульkes and our company to pay Yes, that's what you want. Can you allow us more about the life now and age? So now, what is happening right now? Hello, I'm with Radio Butterpool and I find your story very interesting, but do you mind if we listen in and live from the radio? Is it okay? Is it okay with everybody? Yeah. Sorry, are you asking about genetically modified? So you can take the key over there. So the genetically modified was introduced in 2014 as you mentioned.

39:56So what happened the first few years, the production was really nice because it was new to that landscape and people were excited about it. But what happened slowly, the crop that was planted for the first year, it was very good. But later after three or four years, what happened? And the pest started attacking and when the pest became more stronger with that genetically modified, because you were modifying that genetically in a lab. But what happens in nature is organic modification depending on every year, the plant modifies itself every year naturally. But what happens with genetically modified? I think the seed is not able to produce more seeds because you killed the idea of seed being produced as a seed. And that was very much an impact, that was catered in India.

41:00And so what happened because of that, farmers had to buy the seed first, which they never bought, which they used to preserve traditionally started by seeds. And because they had to buy seeds after five years, they had to buy chemicals. Because the soil was sucking up a lot of nutrition, because it was a genetically modified crop. And they had to also buy pesty signs because pest started attacking. So this whole idea of the farmers getting in touch, because the production was not coming and they were just taking loans from the government, from different private organizations, to just have some cotton growing in their fields. And that didn't happen and there was a huge scale of suicide. And this is what one Nashiva also talks about. And she started this whole movement of getting back to the indigenous variety, of saving the seed as a process of preserving this idea of knowledge or indigenous knowledge.

42:02And what about the situation now? Right now situation is still difficult, but there are a lot of revival that's happening around the government landscape. People are trying to revive the family, but it's a slow process, you know, because it takes time, but there is a revival that's happening. That's what I mentioned in Gursar. There is a whole revival of Kalapotent and Swain, Kalapotent is the indigenous variety of that grows in the Indus Vandhi civilization. It's that part of the India Pakistan border. It's very hard to focus on your words when you do this, because it's so many. Thank you. Thank you. And this used to be so fine, there was skill, you know, the finest rotten that you can spun.

43:06You can spin. And that's just two fingers. Just two fingers. And once you're holding, you're thinking that this over there, so the yarn becomes a bit stronger. Yeah, I need to boil this a bit. Two is here. This two was designed by Gandhi. This was designed, this was assignment that he gave to a French engineer in the jail. And they both designed it together. It's a collaboration. So this tool was designed in the jail. When he was jailed by the British, he was like, what can I do for spinning? And he designed this tool. This is a modular tool. This is called a box chakka, a box spinning wheel. So you can dismantle it. I can just dismantle it and show you right now.

44:17You can dismantle it. Put it back. And it's funny how I found this tool in the engine. It's a little bit more than a box. It goes in and it doesn't take a box. It's an even where you want to spin. You spin. You open it and you spin. So all these factory workers from IKEA, could you imagine? Yes. I would really love to read this on the radio. It's a method to... Maybe to add on. I also take once you have a lot of yarn. Once you already do the spinning, what you do. So this is the last process which I can explain to you. Once you have the yarn, what you do?

45:18What you do is... I just write push and yarn. Yes, yes. Today? Fred? Fred? I have a phone. I can't wait to go to the door. Oh. Thank you. Ah, I thought it was this one. It's weird. It's too hard enough. It's like a necklace. And like this. Yeah.

46:37Yes. So this, what am I doing? It's unwinding the yarn. The yarn I have made. How do I give it to a V-Wer? Who has to weave this yarn into a piece of fabric? So one round of this is around half meter or one meter. Yeah.

47:37Bring this over here. And then back. And just put it. So this is the way it is. This. And this is how I give it to a V-Wer. Who will reopen it for this is in loom and weave it. You will reopen it? Yes, reopen this. And then it's to reopen this. It's just to this. And why in that? And there is a knot tied over here.

48:37And then we put it under loom. So this is how everyone was weaving in the house and making these. This is how we made really strong rope. Yes, this is how the rope is also more. We made it like a nylon wires around the hay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could reuse it with really strong ropes. Yeah, we are twisting. So the act of twisting is very... Come on, Alice. We are not giving birth. So if you want to try it, I can set this. But when I do a spindle, a spindle is a nice coin. When you can start spinning. Once you know the spindle, then what will be first? Really, use your hands. If you get to know the act, it's a small act that you are learning. You know, so slowly you can use anything to spin like that. From the very beginning. From the beginning. You know, for how do you engage your hands in the making process?

49:43Well, any other question? Yeah, it's a magic driven with a wooden knife. But this is also a practice that I have been doing. It's a trick, yeah. And then you lay your hands with your head. What happens towards the end? First the hands. So what we did in this process was first really using the hands in the making. You know, how they started. Like, like, again, you know, maybe if people have had it. So if you just use your hands first, then the hand is there in the process of making. Then comes the heart in the process. We are connected in a way where where the heart is aligned. That's why we are able to make this young. So then comes the heart in the process. And once we are done making this, then comes the head in the process. What did we do together?

50:44And that's also a methodology of working. And that also comes from the idea of non-violence. And the best thing about this cotton is that once you have used, you can just do this. And we use the cotton. So the material and what's happening? In the last fashion. So I also connected to the discourse on how we have started using these materials today. So we all want genes. You know, the genes is made out of cotton. But the problem with the genes, if we want the stretchable genes, is that there is an elastic spun together with the cotton. And you cannot separate the elastic and the cotton. So the whole material cannot be recycled. We all want, you know. So it's also the contrast between what kind of materials we developed today. How we mix this man-made and hatchery material.

51:50Any other questions? This man, who deals in the great development of eye openness. So yeah, you can just do and it becomes again. It will have, yeah, you can reuse this. So that's also the circularity of this material. How circular is the process? That's also Gandhi wanted to talk about. How circular is this making process? Any questions? You also make your clothes? Yeah, I don't make the whole clothes, but I've started making scuffs. I have all the scuffs I make on my own hands, one. Here I've started collecting, I live in Tenham. Where I go to the, because every city has these farmhouses, I collect the sheep wool from there.

52:51Because that's also, how do you look at local resources? Well, I think most wool of the sheep in the Netherlands is not huge. It's not huge. It's not huge. It's too expensive to know. So all the wool that we use here comes from, I don't know, Museum of Persons. Which is literally the other side of the world. That's why when I do these workshops in Netherlands, I really use doken-mattinger like wool. You know, I don't want to focus on cotton, because it's also, the cotton is not indigenous to this land. But the idea is more important, so that I start with cotton and then we move to wool. Because wool is something that's very local to this landscape. And how do you use local materials in a landscape? But there are also other crafts that you, is the idea of looking with hands. There's block printing, that also I do.

53:51So there are multiple things that I combine with this ideology of working with crafts. And craft, not as a product, but a way of thinking, a way of connecting people together. That's it. Were you said that I sold them, but it was a real old wire. Yes. And what I think about this? How do you do this type of work? This piece of, so we have this. How do you do this type of work? So you have to reopen this. Yes. I put it on a new set. No, this type of work. Yeah, do me a bit. You have to make the block first. And then you have to put it on the loom and then you start weaving. Okay. Yeah, that's what makes sense. Yeah, but if you are doing wool, wool is very easy to knit. So you don't have to weave, you can start knitting.

54:53That's what's between wool and wool. Yes, because cotton art is very fine. And when you, you also have to understand that cotton won't take that much tension. But wool is a protein fiber, it takes more tension. It's like a head. You know, the way we are spinning the head, you know, it's the same thing. You know? Yeah. So we can do natural air extensions like this. Yes, yes, good. I could do some. Yeah. You should try it. Yeah, I want to be a Gustav. Yeah. Mixed with threads. Oh my god, yeah. Yeah, what do you mean they are the winter of your company's product in the right hand? Yeah, a lot in the salt. A lot in the salt. But also in good salt. Good salt is the place where it's being produced a lot.

56:02Any other questions? Anything? What do you remember with all the details? Like this kind of thing. Yeah. Do you want me to read this? Yeah. You know how many people like me and me? Yeah. You have an idea of how many people there is. I don't think there is a round of how many people are in the middle of it. You saw the video on your student. You were speaking this. What would they all think together? Yeah. That was a protest. It's a way of protesting. I said, I am regarding your cycle. You sat. You know, that was the way of protesting about the rights of cycling. You see that very influencing picture where everyone is sitting with their cycle.

57:03In the museum? Yeah. In the museum. Yeah. In the museum, in front of that. I think it was during the time when they were reconstructing the city. I wanted to close the bicycle gates. So they all went. And then they were in the second. In shame, the idea to close this town. It's a historic corridor. But that also happened through this. Because there were so much good and good coming in. So they all started protesting and spinning. Why do you want to remove it? It's my tool. They all started spinning collectively. Really? Sitting. Yeah. There was a moment with this box. Yeah. I showed a video. Wow. I just put it again. There was a whole collective movement of spinning. Yeah. Yeah. Hi. So every time when we sit there, so many people are spinning over there.

58:04Look at this. Everyone sitting using this box, they are kind of spinning. Imagine how many kilometers of yarn we could produce with that. We have a trend where we have a travel route. We have a travel route. Imagine how many kilometers of yarn we could produce with that. We have a trend where we have a travel route. We have a trend where we have a travel route. Because spinning is an answer to one one. It can be undertaken either in the full time or seasonal communications. The other one should be sharp. It's an intriguing story. A story that is symbolic of the village of France. Much towards the research has gone towards the rest of the discourse. Look at how far less than she is doing. Yeah. And when you look at how far less than she is doing.

59:19Yeah. But it's cool to learn this. And the same age as you learn to learn. Yeah. I hope. Yeah. Yeah. And when Europe saw this material for the first time. They thought it grows on plants. And they started growing plants with a sheep. Wow. A plant with a sheep. This is how you gaze this worldview. A plant that grows sheep. Yeah. Yeah. This is what they started representing cotton as this material. So funny.