1815: Watch Until the Dust Settles | Krishna's Love Never Leaves Vrindavan

0:00We can choose what we want to understand in this world. And some of us just want to understand what it takes to make money. And some of us just want to understand incredibly trivial things. And some people want to understand that mystery of love that's there in Vrindavan. I want to understand that. Let me make that. And we see that Krishna himself wants to understand that he comes to Shri Caitanya. Because I want to understand what Rada Rani feels. You know, like that becomes the fascination. And so does Krishna leave? And it's disconcerting. It's unsettling. He leaves there. And all these gopis and all the residents of Vrindavan who love him so much, suffer and suffer and suffer. Well, isn't that the position that we want that we, you know, we're connected with God in this beautiful, loving way? Then why does he make them suffer? And why does he leave? And, but there's something here in this, you know, we're going to see that a crew is going to apparently take Krishna out.

1:00But it takes these wonderful, you know, this is part of the gift that the Goswami give us, you know, that they comb through all of these ancient texts. And they, and the stuff that even other great chariots are passing over, they're showing how it all works. That Krishna actually never leaves. Although you don't see him that Svaya Bhagavan, that original form, that all other avatars come from, even other forms of Krishna, right? Like there's, there's the original form of Krishna that's Vaya Bhagavan, the original self. And like in the rasa dance, these other forms come from that, you know, it's called Vibhava perkash, these other forms of Krishna dancing there too. But there's one that's the original that, that all the others manifest from. And like this Rupa Goswami is going to lay out all these different types of manifestations of Krishna and how they come, you know, everything is Krishna's energy.

2:02And part of that is like all the different avatars and different manifestations of Krishna. But what is it that's there in Vrndavana? Vishwana Chakravaritya Takaura used this term, Bava perkash. Okura takes another perkash, means like a manifestation. And a Kura takes, it's not the original form that, that, um, a Kura takes to Mathura. Right. But the, what stays behind is the original form, but it's different. It's not different, but more subtle. It won't be perceived as easily. And that's called the Bava perkash, the, like the, the manifestation of his love, which is who he is, you know, his inner feelings, his Bava perkash, his manifest there. And it never goes. So he never left. His love is there always.

3:02And it's especially there in the hearts of the devotees. So when you talk about like, you know, like someone has like a little Yamuna water or some dust from Vrndavana and the, and the devotees are like, all excited about this. Right. Why would, why would you be excited about this little, you know, sand here because Bava perkash, because Krishna's love is manifest in Vrndavana and never leaves Vrndavana. It's there. It's present. And maybe everyone else can't perceive it, but you were describing this. Like you, you were saying something about like when someone's, when you refine your perception, you know, then it opens up to one. And suddenly you appear little crazy.

4:42And you're going to pitch, oh, you're in Pittsburgh, you're coming back from Pittsburgh. No, I'm going to Philly. No, he's going to Philly. Are you going to write to Philly? Okay. Nice. Well, have a Jumbo. I'll be right here. I'll be speaking at the temple to not tomorrow. Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night. Okay. Eight till nine. We have a lot of great memories at the Philly Temple. I haven't been there in so long enough. I can't even, it may be. I haven't been 30 years or something. Me too. Probably more than 30 years. Isn't it weird? Isn't that life? Do you guys, this is a place, you know, you raise a family somewhere or you have so many adventures here. And then the day you leave, you realize this is the end of it. I'll never be the same. It's like that, it's a deep realization. I had that in sixth grade when I left elementary school. I remember my same walk at home, like I used to always do what I thought, you know what? It's a thing. I'll never be here again. It's it.

5:43I've been here every year for six years. It's over. It's like a, and we get these definitive chapters of our life, huh? Definitive chapters of our lives. Like sand in the hourglass, right? Yeah. It is. It is. Or the days of our lives. And it's like that with relationships with homes, with automobiles, with, it's just like it, that's it. You should also think like, how many, you know, how many, I always think how many summers do I have left? Hmm? How many summers do I really have left? Healthy summers. If you think, I didn't go camping the summer. Oh yeah? How many more do you got? I think like that. Yeah. Okay. Hello, sir. I'm from Priya. How are you? My dear. Good morning, I'm well. Getting ready to go to DC. Hmm. Would you like some announcements? Please. All right. Next week we'll do the show Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. Six thirty a.m. eastern time for anyone that wants to join us live on Zoom.

6:46Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. Yeah. And then this winter we're doing Bacchew Vignac, Yoga Retrie, Cureton Academy and Light On Wisdom all running simultaneously at the Governan Eco Village, January 10 through 22nd. Okay. All right. So our teacher training is X this year because we did it shorter. So now it's only from the 10th. We got a yoga retreat. We have the Cureton Academy. That's the Parmonium. That was moved because we were doing the first. So Cureton is going second, starting on the 10th and then Wisdom of the Sages of course is the 10th through 22nd. Yeah. All right. Looking forward to that. Sign up if you're interested. We are moving. All right. Ready to get into our nugget? Yeah. Okay. Today. I know that the nugget is coming from someone that I've personally met before. This comes from Diana Ak from her book India, A Sacred Geography. She's a famous scholar on India, Aishanabhism I think. We have a few books by her also.

7:46She is a professor of Compared to Religion at Harvard University. You know her from Harvard University, right? Well, you know, I frequent Harvard University, especially their online forums. They haven't rejected you from the online forum yet. They can't keep me out. It becomes again. You know, because I was briefly the president of the Iskan temple in Boston. Oh, that's right. And so she brought a group of students there one time and I hosted them. And she hosted me at Harvard one time on a panel. I guess it was a Hinduism panel, if I remember. But she was really nice actually. And I remember on that panel, someone said something like one of the other Hindus.

8:48They said something like yeah, you know, they pointed at me and said yeah, they're not really true Hindus or something like that. They said something to your face right in front of me. It is like yeah. And then one of the students came time for asking questions. One of the students raised their hands and said I would like to hear from Kastuvadas about how he felt about what that other person said. Oh yeah. And before I even had a chance to respond, Diana X said actually I would too because and then she just went on and on and on supporting you. I would have to really think about, I wish I could remember right now what she said. But she gave like a very powerful defense, you know, like about her times at the Krishna Ballerum Temple in Brindavan and this and that. And you know, she just really kind of almost just crushed the guy, you know, crushed it, you know, his argument and then turned to me and I was kind of like, you know, it's kind of the work was already done. You know, there's always somebody to on Instagram saying how it's not real yoga, anything

9:52you're doing, it's all things and it's made up by white people and stuff like that. It though, I get it because we do appropriate everything and give no credit back to a source. But at the same time, you can't just be a racist and say no, this is only for Hindus or brown skin people too. That's true too. I get it. America appropriates everything. I don't even think that was the question. No, no, no, no, the criticism from the Hindu students. That is ingrained in a lot of people's mind. It wasn't a student. It was another kind of like a representative from some other temple or something like. Oh, really? Yeah. But are you said you're not even real? You're getting upset about this. I am. Get a little worked up. First of all, I'm in defensive you, my friend. No, thank you. You were probably just sitting there like the Buddha, like not bothered. He basically invalidated your entire existence, your career choices, you know, your status.

10:57See it that way. I saw it more like he was criticizing Iskhan as not being genuine or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, the thing that you've dedicated your life for, you're standing there unmoved. You're like sort of like when like some, you're like Krishna when Shishu Paul is insulting you. And you're just not even like, I would have been like, come on, give me some of that. Let me tackle a tackle some Swami, some Maya buddy Swami. I don't even remember what I said, but what I do remember is that she basically just handled it. It was like, there wasn't much left for me to do, you know? Really? Yeah. Very interesting. And that's why you're you and I, me, you know, I still have a lot of the dust to settle on you. I get a little worked up. Sometimes I don't know who you kidding. You get worked up what? You just, you just, yeah, you know, I'm going to work up right now, but it gets worked.

11:58You only tell me you'll get worked up if your meals aren't on time. That's 20 talking about that. Exactly. Let's move on. Let's just stuff in your head. Then you just project out there. You need like a certain, some of the brain is rocking chair. You need like a certain form of book out there. If his books are out of alphabetical order, he's like, what's going on here? All right. Let's hear from Diane. What does she have to say? And this is. This is from her book, a sacred geography. India. Who messed up the shoes on the shoe rack? Okay. Enough of that. Give it a rest. Okay. A tear to is a crossing place, a Ford, where one may cross over to the far shore of a river, or to the far shore of the worlds of heaven. Hold on a second. A Ford? Is that like a fjord? A Ford is like in a river.

12:59It's a shallow part of the river where like you can cross it. We cross. All right. Like Oregon Trail, where you've forward the river? Never heard that. It's the only one I know. No, you have. Take it in. As avatars to send downward, Tirta's are those four where one crosses the other way from the shore to the far shore. Okay. I'm going to act from India, a sacred geography, Harvard University Press. Wow. Yeah. That was beautiful, right? A Tirta, you know, sometimes it's used interchangeably with Dom and India Holy Tirta's Dom is a little bit more like the Lord's abode, but still, you know, a Tirta, which is like, you know, in one sense is like what the Yamuna is. I think using the word as she's using it, it's the Yamuna, what Vrndavana is, a crossing place. Okay. Yeah. I think a Dom would be a Tirtha, but a Tirtha wouldn't necessarily be a Dom.

14:00Would you say it like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is a crossing place, right? A place where you can cross from this world to the divine world, right? You know, where the two sort of touch some type of like vortex, right? And the crossing place looks like everything else. It's a river. It's a forest. It's a village. You know, it's a village in India, right? To most people passing through, that's exactly what it is. But to someone with the right eyes or with the right lens, someone who's developed and has been refining that inner vision through practice, right? Through devotion, through a sadanath, through purification, the same place reveals something completely different, right? Not something new, right? That just appeared. Something that was always there, like the transcendental reality that, you know, that the place is transparent to, right? But we were talking about this yesterday in the show. Remember?

15:00I know. I remember. I was just walking around these little jar of devotees walking around these little jar of dust. Hey, it's for the Davan Dusk. Can I sprinkle it on your head? And we're all thinking, oh, yes, please, sprinkle it on my head, please. Yes. Oh, you've got some gone cheese water. Sprinkle it up. You know, drop a few dots on my head or drop some of my head. You know, and any normal person watching is thinking, are these people crazy? It's dirt. It's sand. Touch the guru's feet. Get the dust of the guru. Get the dust of the dumb. It makes no material sense, right? But that's the point, right? One person sees sand or drops of water. Another person sees the most sacred dust on earth. It's the same substance, completely different perception, and that difference perception isn't random. It comes from somewhere. It comes from the depth of practice, the purity of your vision. And to the degree which your inner vision, your inner eyes are opened, you look past

16:01the junk and you go right to the jewel, right? And that's what a tear to does for the person who knows how to see it. Before you go, I just want to say, I'm not going anywhere. Don't go anywhere. So you get to this place where you're like, oh, my God, you know, anything connected with Krishna, we think of, hey, that's those are my beads. Those are my neck beads. Those are, that's a deity. That's the set of Shri Maha Gbha times. It's all like so highly valued in the mind of someone who's sharpening that vision. The converse is true too. And take note of this, I've taken, when we lose that, when we get covered by Maya, even if we're practicing sincerely, we have that taste. There comes a time, hopefully not. Maya covers us and those things that had value, all of a sudden don't have value anymore.

17:02Now the Bhagavad-Tam is just taking up space on my bookshelf, right? All those things that were sacred to the little vial of sand or vial of water or my deities. When that covering happens, we should understand we're in Maya. That's Maya. The problem with it is, the current of Maya is so powerful. It is like a flooding river that just drags you away and it drags you to crazy places. And some of us have been dragged to real crazy places in Maya. And at the same time, when we have that same vision, what we were talking about earlier, they excitement them. This is the dust, this is the holy water, this is the dumb. I want to be in the gunga. That type of thoughts, it just seems like, well, they're just random thoughts. Isn't it just your perception? Yeah, but it's a perception that takes the consciousness higher and higher and higher. And it cleanses the heart and it cleanses the mind. It's not just a different thought, a different mindset.

18:02It's a mindset that's refining the mind, refining the revision or the vision and refining the heart as well. Oh, nice. Sorry, I was just going on about this. I mean, someone like a Harvard professor there. Thank you. There you go. There you go. You know, we're reading, it's so interesting that this past time with Akura that we're reading about, it does speak quite a bit because there's this conscious of him starting a mature going into Vrindavan, taking Krishna apparently back across the river, back to Vrindavan. You start the 10th canter with Krishna crossing the river as a little infant and he gets dropped into that river and he gets pulled back out because there's like a whole storm. And there's always this question about, you know, there's this saying that Krishna never takes one step out of Vrindavan. But it appears that he does. And this goes to this whole mystery about this apparent, this mystery that it causes one

19:12of feeling like an unsettling feeling. We're talking about this yesterday too, right? Disconcerting feeling. But it's, but the mystic gets through that disconcerting feeling and understands how perfect everything is on the other side, right? But that doesn't necessarily come cheap. It has to become what you want. Like we can choose what we want to understand in this world. And some of us just want to understand what it takes to make money and some of us just want to understand incredibly trivial things. And some people want to understand that mystery of love that's there in Vrindavan. I want to understand that. You know, like let me make that. And we see that Krishna himself wants to understand that he comes to Shri Caitanya because I want to understand what Rādharāna feels. You know, like that becomes the fascination.

20:12And so does Krishna leave? It's disconcerting. It's unsettling. He leaves there. And all these gopis and all the residents of Vrindavan who love him so much, suffer and suffer and suffer. But isn't that the position that we want that we, you know, we're connected with God in this beautiful, loving way? Then why does he make them suffer? And why does he leave? And but there's something here in this, you know, we're going to see that a crew is going to apparently take Krishna out. But it takes these wonderful, you know, this is part of the gift that the Goswami give us, you know, that they comb through all of these ancient texts. And the stuff that even other great chariots are passing over, they're showing how it all works. That Krishna actually never leaves. Although you don't see him that Svāyam Bhagavan, that original form, that all other avatars come from, even other forms of Krishna, right?

21:13Like there's the original form of Krishna that's vāyam Bhagavan, the original self. Like in the rāsa dance, these other forms come from that, you know, it's called vāyāva purkāśa, these other forms of Krishna are dancing there too. But there's one that's the original that all the others manifest from. And like this Rūpa Goswami is going to lay out all these different types of manifestations of Krishna and how they come, you know, everything is Krishna's energy. And part of that is like all the different avatars and different manifestations of Krishna. But what is it that's there in Vrndavana? Vishmina Tarkavari Titaakura used this term bhava purkāśa. Akura takes another purkāśa means like a manifestation. And akura takes it's not the original form that Akura takes to Mathura. But what stays behind is the original form, but it's different.

22:18It's not different, but more subtle. It won't perceive this easily. And that's called the bhava purkāśa. The manifestation of his love, which is who he is, you know, his inner feelings, his bhava purkāśa is manifest there and it never goes. So he never left. His love is there always. And it's especially there in the hearts of the devotees. So when you talk about like someone has a little yamuna water or some dust from Vrndavana and the devotees are like, all excited about this. Why would you be excited about this little sand here? Because bhava purkāśa, because Krishna's love is manifest in Vrndavana and it never leaves Vrndavana. It's there, it's present. And maybe everyone else can't perceive it, but you were describing this. Like you were saying something about like when someone's when you refine your perception,

23:22you know, then it opens up to one. And suddenly you appear a little crazy because you're apparently all excited about something that shouldn't be very exciting. And you know what you're saying about losing touch with it. You know, like let's say at one point you were kind of seeing that. Maybe not on the level that, you know, like a maha bhagavata, you know, with the greatest devotees. Really, they literally see Krishna's leel as manifesting in front of their eyes. But you understood how that it was very special, that it was different, that it was unique and real somehow. And then that kind of begins to be covered by the illusory energy again. But what is it that can reawaken it? It's really the devotee of Krishna, right? And there's this famous statement by Yudhisthira that after years when Vidura had like,

24:22there's a beautiful description of Vidura. What a beautiful character that he gets kicked out of the kingdom unfairly. And he says, it's okay. I'll go on pilgrimage. He doesn't fight it, right? And, and everyone else has to deal with all the hell of the war and the after effects of the war. They all go through that. And when Vidura comes back, the bhagavata, this is like 1st canthor chapter 13, I believe. When Vidura comes back, everybody just runs out. They're so happy to see him. Like it's just like, universally he's just loved, you know. And Yudhisthira, who's now the king, and real the senior man now, and the real representative, you know, and the emperor, yeah. And he begins to glorify Vidura. And this one verse is become like, you know, often quoted verse, Tirta Kurvanti Tirtaani,

25:24Svanta Stana Gaddabrta, that because Svanta Stana Gaddabrta, because Gaddabrta, that means the one that carries the club, it means Krishna, right? Because Krishna is Svanta Stana, you're always carrying him within. Tirta Kurvanti Tirtaani, wherever you go, you make that place, Tirta. You bring that transition point that for, you know, that crossing place. You become that crossing place. You turn that place into a crossing place. I like this. Just by your presence. Right. So whenever there's great souls, or Hari Katah, means we're talking about the Lord, you can really do that anywhere. You can do that in, you know, you would mean to the Brooklyn Temple in the 80s. That was the ghetto, right? That was the total ghetto. You walk out the door, you're like, looking around, hope you don't get mugged. That you still like run from the subway. People don't understand. It was like, if you parked your car there overnight,

26:25it would be robbed. Probably 90%. If you did it two nights in a row, they're going to break the windows. And, you know, it was like that. So my point is there's Hari Katah there. And there's the worship of the Lord there. And great souls come there. You felt like you're in the spiritual world. That is the power of Hari Katah, worship of the Lord, and the great souls. They make the holy place a holy place. That's why super soul farm is a holy place. Because all the work place. You know, what we're doing here is just like, it's Hari Katah. Right? And we have, when we have that going on all the time, it takes you right out of your body and mind. It takes you right out of the mind, right out of the body. And you can feel like you've been on pilgrimage. And we're on pilgrimage is the same thing. There's nothing but the talking of spiritual, spiritual conversation. You know, I get everybody on that bus. I just, yeah, Paul, I just, yeah, for hours. It's like I've got a captive audience. It's like my favorite thing. I get to talk and they can't go anywhere. And we just hear that, but they, that's how you're supposed to go to these holy places.

27:27You're not supposed to treat it like you're going to Chiang Mai or you go into Cancun. It's a whole different thing. And that's how you end up refining your vision. And that's why people, even when they're news, some of the people come on pilgrimage and they don't quite even know much about it, but they heard about it. But they can go real deep, real quick if they just follow that simple process. Because, because you, because like you and I, because it's a flood, you can, you can just get in there and walk across. And sometimes you can't tell, you can't tell. Like I can, can I walk across there? No, no, no, that's quick. Sam can I walk there? No, no, no, that's too deep. That's right. And so the teacher comes like they did to us and they said, this is how you have to do it. And there's a way to do it. And then you go Christian everywhere. Then you go, what's that? You go crazy. Crazy. Yeah, you become Christian. I'm Christian, a crazy. It's a good, it's a good crazy to be. Good place to be. All right, this is, I'm excited now. All right, you go and pilgrims to just see Christian everywhere.

28:28You can't get it out of your head. That's right. But this is something we can all hang on to in this term, Bava Prakash. Again, Prakash means like a manifestation. So Bava Prakash, the manifestation of his inner love is always there. And that's as real, it's not less real. It may be more subtle, but it's not less real. And that never leaves Rindavan. And it's there in the hearts of all the residents of Rindavan. So Krishna never left. And they're relishing that even though it may appear that they're suffering. They're actually the Bava Prakash is the, is the manifestation, the unmanifestation of Krishna or the manifestation of Bava. Crush means manifestation, but it stays in Rindavan. It stays in Rindavan. It stays in Rindavan. So Krishna into Matura, that's not as Bava Prakash. It's the Bava Prakash. That's the Bava Prakash. And the important point is that that Bava Prakash is the spy in Bhagavan.

29:30It is the original. It's the original. Got it. Got it. Beautiful, Kastuba. What a great day it's going to be today. Just hearing about Krishna, starting your day, hearing about Krishna. It's a great way to build up to to to to Jhanmashtami tomorrow. This is what you're supposed to do. Meam, Tarnapriya, we have all our books. Okay, we're not going to a Jhanmashtami festival. We're going to see trapped under ice. We're playing with them. All right. All right. But let me tell you this. That being said, that being said, we have Deena Bondu with us in book form. And we have the Garga Samita. And we have the Garga Samita. And we're going to be sitting in that hotel, hearing and chanting about Lord Krishna. Beautiful. All right. I want you to get the trapped under ice guys and share a little something with them before they play. You never know. Sometimes you know people are just really into Krishna. Like the people you least expect it. What kind of music is trapped under ice? Exactly. I don't really know. It's trapped under ice. I think they're probably sort of like a metal core type of thing.

30:30Like a big. Our devotion can become trapped under ice. I know. That's the problem. We don't want our boxy to get trapped under ice, Prana. All right. trapped under ice. Okay, you ready? Today of the author. All that is troublesome the heart become eradicated in loving service to the Supreme Lord. Who is praised with transcendental songs will be established as an irrevocable fact. Oh, again, I'm in the siaq,

31:32yana'jana' salakaya, chak su'udun, the dhamnena, taz me shi, goodebeidimaha. I was born in the darkness of ignorance. My teachers are opening my eyes with a towards-sighted knowledge. I offer my vacancies at their lotus feet. Reading from Shumabagavatam. Kanto 10. Chapter 39, text 32. 32. Okay. Here they go. Here they go. These are the guys. But even as the gopis cried out in this way, a krura having at sunrise performed this morning worship and other duties began to drive the chariot. Ouch. Ouch. Led by Nunda Maraj, the coward men followed behind Lord Krishna in their wagons. Picture this scene, Kastipa. The men brought along many offerings for the king, including clay pots spilled with ghee and other milk products. I'm not, I can't stop pitching the scene of the gopis. See, we don't see it here actually in the bog with Tom Rogan. This, the gopis lying in front of the cart and all of that.

32:35We hear that from other sources. Yeah. But it was just kind of mentioned briefly here that it says they're crying. But all, you know, them hanging onto it and trying to stop the horses and lying down in front of the cart. Like, like these protesters doing sometimes. But why did they end up in front of the traffic? Glue in their hand to the crowd. Imagine if they'd have that same devotion for Lord Krishna. Oh, Krishna. Yes. So, so now they're driving away. I appreciate their sentiment for their cause, but it just makes everybody hate them. It's misplaced. It's constantly placed. Like, what if, what if you're going to stop everybody from doing all the things that they need to do in life? To make my point that we shouldn't be using oil. Yeah, there's better ways. I get it. I get it. We got to think of new ways or we got to just stop using oil and move to the fall. We got some forest. We can rent out to you at Super Soul Farm.

33:35You can just show a better way. Yeah, show a better way. But if I lay down in the front of a car while my wife's pregnant, I'm trying to get her to hospital. I would lose my marbles, man. So, we'll lay down in front of my car. Oh, let's not go there. Let's keep the stable. We are here. Right. Or what to speak of rocking up at age 60. I got to go to the bathroom a lot. Like, that's a problem. And some teenagers lay in front of my car. Harry Krishna. Okay, let's not go. Where's Jeeva when I need some endorsements? Thank you, Jeeva. You missed my whole rant. Led by Nundermaraj, the coward man followed behind Lord Krishna in their wagons. The man brought along many offerings. Okay, just write that. With his glances, Lord Krishna somewhat pacified the gopis. And they also followed behind for some time. Then hoping he would give them some instruction they stood still. This is heartbreaking. This is, I don't want to ask you, I shouldn't even say that.

34:36But, you know, the sad thing when someone is sitting there and the person they love is walking away. Okay. At what I wasn't, I don't want to necessarily compare this to. But in one sense, it's, you know, there's something. What are you good? Well, you know, like, when dogs, they're so devoted, right? Kastuva. And you get sentimental about dogs. Good. Good. This is good for your heart. You know, when, when people break out their suitcase, the dog understands what they're going away now for a long time. You know, they do. They can, yes, they can perceive that. Maybe you're a dog. Because they didn't never start your suitcase. You just, but, um, yeah, like a lot of times when, when people take out their suitcase, you know, the dogs, they have enough problem with them going for the day. Like, when he's going to be back with them, they're not so good at understanding like they're, oh, they'll be back at six o'clock. You know, I probably punished my dog by having such a erratic travel schedule.

35:37Yeah, it's hard for them. So, so when they see the suitcase. That's quite happy to go to the neighbors. Yeah, we had to do it. The name like he really liked his hotel, his dog. But especially when those dogs just had to stay alone, you know, all day and something and they get excited. I know, like when you come back, like in New York City, people have dogs in New York City. All you got to do is like, you're at the computer. You stand up the dogs like, you know, we're going to go outside. Yeah, and you're like, no, no, I'm just walking over to the refrigerator, sit back down dog. You see, it's so, so, I agree. He's saying they have, they have to take the dog on a walk. And then pack while like the dogs being walked. Because when the suitcases come out, the dogs feel so sad. And then when you walk, they know. No, no, sorry. They're okay. So, so when they, when you go, they just stay, they people film the dog after they leave and it sits there by the door. Dogs are so heartbreaking. I don't think they're like, I don't know why, India, they don't give dogs more respect.

36:38They have this quality of loyalty, like, we could only wish for. If men and women could be loyal, like, dog. It was Chanukyapundit that said, you know, he listed, what is it, four or five things that we need to learn from the dog? I don't remember that. Yeah, one of them, let's see if I can remember. Everybody sharing the dog pictures. Get your dog photos up people. So, oh, you see, that's the dog waiting for the kid to come back. The kid went off to college and the dog is sitting there like that. Every day. But you can't even talk to him when he calls on the phone. But, you know, you can learn loyalty from the dog. When they wake up, they're immediately alert. We can learn that from the dog. You can lean like, eat all the food on your plate. Like, don't leave a scrap. Look at Chappu's cutter. The dog is sitting in the suitcase. That dog looks so sad sitting in the suitcase.

37:41Okay, here we go. Nitsune and the chunder pulled it up. The things that we learned from the dog. Six qualities. Thank you, Nitsune and the dog. He's so good. Contentment with little or nothing to eat. Although they may have a great appetite. That's a very good quality. To awaken in, in standby. Although one may be in a deep slumber. You wake up, you know, we lie around people, you know, people when they're waking up, they lie around. Dog just wakes up and boom. Did I freeze or did you freeze, Raghunat? I need other people to let me know. Okay, it was Raghunathe frozen. Yes, okay. So hopefully Raghunathe will be back soon. So I'll stick with these. I'll keep reading here. So one was contentment with little or nothing to eat. Although you may have a big appetite. Dog can do that. Two.

38:41One second. Well, people, okay, here we go. To awaken instantly, although one may be in a deep slumber. Dogs do that. Human beings, they lie around a lot. The dog, boom, it's awake. Unflinching devotion to the master. Right? Bravery. It's amazing. These little dogs, these little sausage dogs, right? They will like go up to other big dogs or people and just challenge them, you know, to protect the master. So that's bravery, devotion to the master. Slumber, contentment, appetite, awaken instantly. Was that six? Maybe we went offline for a bit. Yeah, yeah, I know. We went through the dog thing. So, so any case, I was a little hesitant to compare the gopis to, you know, use as dogs, but this is still more sad, right? The soft-hearted doe-eyed gopis are just standing there.

39:47We're going to read about it now. They're just standing there. They stood still. They're just like just watching the cherry go away. I think a close feeling of Krishna leaving is when the devotees leave. It's the saddest time for devotees is when they're not around other devotees and they just feel like, where are my people? Where are the devotees? It's so lonely. Oh, this is sad here. Too hard to notice saying that they've heard that, that if a dog owner passes away, that you should let the dog see the body, that way it will understand that they didn't leave the dog behind. Oh, like, heartlessly leave the dog behind, right? So everybody's getting a little touched right now. We'll talk to them. Going back to Gus that last day, he was like under my chair, the whole show, like he knew. He knew what was happening. Prana. But here's the thing is that we should feel these kind of emotions for Krishna.

40:47We can and deeper and deeper and deeper and we need to read about the gopis and how they're feeling right now. And Krishna is trying to pass by them. He's going to share a few words as they sit there motionless. Okay. Keep going. Okay, let's do this. He departed as he departed the best of the Yadu's saw how the gopis were lamenting. And thus he can soul them by sending a messenger with his loving promise. I will return. I will return. Sending their minds after trouble. What about Loto? He's still waiting. One of Krishna's cowherd friends down there in Punturi at the end of the Governing Hill. There's a sending their minds. There's a temple. It go over down at the end of Governing is temple of Loto Baba. Loto Baba said, I'm going to be back. He said to me, I'll be back. I'll be back. They say he's still waiting. Waiting there. He's waiting there.

41:50Sending their minds after Krishna. It's almost like the second coming of Jesus. You know, I'll be back. The second coming of Jesus has this thing like, I'll come back and I got to kill everybody. Well, Jesus doesn't say that. That's the idea. He's coming for, you know, at the, I'm going to, like the universe is sending an apocalypse. And I'm going to send for those who have claimed me, you're saved. Everyone else, you're all, yeah, cutting your head off. It's sort of like a sweeter, I'll be back. Sending their minds after Krishna, the gopis stood as motionless as figures in a painting. mannequins. They're remained there. You look at those dog eyes and it's like, oh, but imagine the beautiful. They said, they always say the gopis have like, they call them the doggies, right? Doggies. Like, deers have these big beautiful eyes. These girls, they're big eyes. They're just standing there. Motionless Krishna is going away. Tears come pouring out.

42:51You're getting a little emotional today. No, we're going to. You need a dog. What's, you need a dog. I don't. I have a bio with them. No, you know what though? You do. Me and Jiva help them to the conclusion that you need a dog. You disagree? I did. Okay, forget it. I thought it would help his heart. No cat, a cat. You cat would drive him crazy. We're going to stop analyzing me and keep reading here. Are you kidding? That's my part time job is analyzing you. You can put that in my bio. Costume is unwanted therapist. Because therapists you never asked for. I wanted an early amateur and a bit warped too. The therapists you never asked for, the unsolicited advice you never wanted. Sending their minds after Krishna, the gopis stood as motionless as figures in a painting. They remained there as long as the flag, the top of the chariot was visible.

43:52And even until they could go no longer, see the, longer to see the dust raised by the chariot wheels. So devotees do this. They get it from the, I think they get it from this. It would be too cold hard just to turn around and walk away while the car still is driving away. I remember when this first was done to me. Shelter played a, we played in Hungary, I think. It was hungry. And they had just started this really off the grid farm, these devotees. And we stayed with them and they took care of us and they fed us. And we were all bramacharis and we were driving away. And the whole devotee community just was waving and chanting as we drove away. And we were going, we're looking out the windows. I've never had it done to me before. And looking out the windows, I like, they're still standing there. And like, you could just see them as we're pulling away. And they're all just waving. And I tell you, it's the most heart warming feeling that these, they're really going to miss us, I think. It's love. It's love. Yeah. And if you don't have it, you got to practice it.

44:54That's how you get it. That's right. And if you turn around before that car is gone and just start moving on with life, like it means there's no love in the heart. It means they're feeling the pain of that separation. So when Rodinus want me does that too, we wait by the door. He drives away. We wave, you know, he might be talking to somebody but they don't look. And they'll see we were still waving. And then you wait until the dust of the car, the vehicle, the horse, whatever they're in, is coming up and then you see nothing anymore. And then you offer your obeisances. That's powerful. That's love. That's the beautiful, Vyshnom tradition we're part of. Kastuba, you see what you said was really important. If you don't have it, you practice it. Therefore, it becomes part of the etiquette. When a Vyshnom is leaving, you stay there. And you watch until they're totally gone. Because otherwise, you're acting as if you have no love in your heart. Right. Right. And isn't everything that we're doing? We want to become sensitized rather than desensitized.

45:55Sure. Everything we're doing is a practice here. And we can practice to be very Christian and conscious. Or we can practice just to be obtuse. Right. It's this. And the thing about Bakti amongst all the different paths of yoga is Bakti is the only one where the practice and the perfection are the same. The means and the end are the same. You know, what we practice, the gopis are doing here right now in perfection. Right. Are you saying you're perfected? No, I'm saying practicing. I know. And you said the practice is the perfection also. I'm saying that. You do the same thing. You do it in practice and then you do the same thing in perfection. Right. I'm not saying I'm perfect. I'm saying I'm practicing. You're practicing to be perfect. Thank you. You almost say that with a little bit of condescension. Oh, you're practicing to be perfect. Are you? Oh, man, I love to laugh. Laughing is probably the healthiest thing you can do.

46:57More than any I or Vedic herb. Me and Jive were laughing so hard at the table. Yes, I can't remember what it was about. We can't say it. We can't. What was it about? Forget it. Forget it right away. He's moving. Okay. The gopis then turn back with out hope that govendant would ever return to them. Full of sorrow. They began to spend their days and nights chanting about the past times. Okay. Of their beloved. That right there, right? This is revealing. This is what the devotee what much to talk Makata Prana Bodhiantha Parasparam. Kati Antas Chamam Nityam. Toshyanti Chau. Ramanthi Chau. Yeah, that this is what Christians devotees do. This is this is the practice and it's the perfection that we get together. And what do we do? We discuss the past times of Krishna. Right.

47:57What we're doing right now. Yes, what we're doing right now. That's what the gopis we're doing. For a Krishna laugh, Krishna is not present. And they're just talking and singing about Krishna. And in that way he is present. Yeah. And in that way he is present. By the way, Nityan on the Chandra who's listening to this podcast right now, he's got this new Instagram account about learning shlokas. Please put it on the message board. Everybody follow him. I just discovered it yesterday. Thank you. It's important to learn these shlokas too. Life is short. Learn more shlokas. They help them enrich your life. I mean, otherwise, I mean, at the very least, it's a meditation on wisdom. And you say these things again and again and again and again in your head. And they lodge in there. And they give you direction when you're at forks in the road of your life. Learn shlokas. It's good. Shakti Devi is saying it's amazing. She's enjoying that. Shakti Devi is learning shlokas. Good for you. Shakti Devi. It's good news. My dear King, the Supreme Lord Krishna, traveling as swiftly as the wind in that chariot with Lord Balarama Nakhura,

49:00arrived at the river Kalindi, which destroys all sins, Pranapriya. Why is the Yamuna river called the Kalindi, trivia question, hot seat? Is it the Kalindi mountain? Yes. It's the daughter of the Kalinda. That's the mountain where I think it manifests from in the Himalayas. Okay. We just read this beautiful passage of the Yamuna. Oh, gosh. All right. So this is kind of the tier, the one sense that we're talking about too here, the river here. Okay. Let's do one more. We got to wind this up. The river's sweet water was more effulgent than brilliant jewels. After Lord Krishna had touched it for purification, he drank some from his hand. And then he had the chariot. And then he had the chariot move near a grove of trees and climb back on along with Balarama.

50:01Okay. This is going to be a cliffhanger here, because something far out is going to happen. Yeah. He's about to experience christian mystical potencies. Yeah. Right? So yeah, we won't get to that until Tuesday. How are he supposed to wait that long? Yeah. But we have Jamashmi and Chupra was a appearance that in between. I'm going to ask everybody to make Friday magical by adding Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, to your life. Find some time. If you can't find a devotee, just find some time just to read about Krishna and make it a magic time. Journal about how you are now compared to how you were, juxtapose it. Journal about how you're how you're taste for Krishna. What is it? What has it given you? When are you doing the sweet baby Krishna? I'm figuring that out. Well, we're doing one in person, Tuesday at the DC time in Sunday at the DC time.

51:03Oh, oh, yeah. Sunday at the DC temple. We're doing something. Yeah, one 15 to one 15. Oh, really? Okay. You see why don't you broadcast that live for the sage community platform? All right. And you might even do one Friday because it's jammas to me. That'd be a nice mood. Oh, well, I was thinking, I do Friday, but we could both do it Friday. Oh, you're doing one Friday? Well, why don't I do that eight to nine o'clock? That's when I'm speaking the Philadelphia temple. And then you can do that. Eight to nine. I could do an easy earlier one. Yeah, let's let's uh, if you think that's going to split our crowd, like more people listen to me or you. No, I think people like this. Or do you think I think let's just fill the day with Harry Katat. Let's make Lismasages that place, that grand central station to hear Harry Katat. Okay. Dana Kay says yes, yes, yes. Okay. So we'll uh, we'll we'll go set to the sage community platform the links and times and all that. Okay. All right. Ready for some takeaways? Yeah. Yeah. How many healthy summers do we have left? I don't want.

52:04Wah. Refine. What? Refine your just listen. I am listening, but I want to see people. I want to see us here. Refine your inner vision through Sadhana. Okay. Look past the junk and find the jewel. Past the, oh, look past the junk, find the jewel. That is a t-shirt. Who said that? Costuba. Well, it's from the, you said that. I said, I said, no, that's also from yesterday. We can say yes. Okay. Yes. All right. Christian is love the Bob Prakash is always present in Vrndavana. Practice love. Watch the dust settle as they drive away. Watch the dust settle poetic. In Bakti the practice and the perfection of the same. Costuba thinks he's perfect. And that's how you would have heard that statement from our chariots. Yes. And don't let your devotion get trapped under ice.

53:05Oh, that's a great one. I'm excited to play with trapped under ice today. What about dogs? Nothing about dogs. We're nothing about dogs. Dogs are loyal. Be loyal like a dog. Be a dog. Oh, look at Laura Wright. She's got her dog. It looks just like my dog. Everyone's going to take the dogs in now. Everyone, post your dog, pictures. Thank you, everybody, for joining us.