10 Movies We Can’t Wait to See This Fall

0:00I'm Sean Fennesy. I'm Amanda Davin. And this is the Big Picture A Conversation Show about the Fall movie season. Today on the show we're delivering our official Fall movie preview. We're just days away from visiting a pair of Fall film festivals. So before we've seen it all, we're going to share with you the movies we can't wait to see the ones we have seen and highly recommend and a few wild predictions. Plus, we'll break down some movie news right after this. Okay, Dobbins. Hey, Big Dog, 6 p.m. flight. Let's go. So you're worth eight hours away. Yeah, well, I'm eight hours from an 18 hour travel day. But yes, thank you for podcasting today. We appreciate that. Did you get out to the movie theater this weekend? I did. You did. I did. I saw Kayao and Mi versus Zach. No kidding. With my two children. I lost 45 minutes of Kayao vs. Zach.

1:01Before my younger son was like to scary mama outside. Again, he's not quite too. It was 100 degrees. We had a cold hit the family. Like a lot of situations I was solo parenting. So we hit the lock and yada eight. Nox sat in the seat, loved it. Oh, good. And I was charmed and then I had to go outside with side. Was Nox able to stay or did he also have to leave? At some point he did have to leave. Again, he was also sick. But we, so I'm not a total expert, but I was there. There were more people than I expected. This was like a four p.m. I think on a Thursday showing or Friday. And way more adults than I expected. Right. So I want to talk about that. So Kayao vs. Zach, I guess the big movie, the big new movie at the box office. We did an episode about dog stars last week, which bombed terrible at the box office. And we can talk about that. Many people are talking about the car heart, though. I sure are. Kayao vs. Zach, he has been in the news for three years now. In 2023, the film was dumped by Warner Brothers.

2:04And I guess David Zazlov has a tax write off. And there was a lot of social media outrage about this and catch up entertainment swooped in and acquired the film for reportedly $50 million. And all these years later, the movie, which has become a real cause celebe online, comes out. And it did $15.5 million at the box office. Okay. Which is okay. It's not bad. It's not great. But it's great that the movie got to be released. Yes. I did see it a couple of like a movie a month ago. And I watched it with Alice. And I thought it was interesting because it did strike me as something that I have been talking about a lot on the show over the years, which is like, it did feel a little bit more like a movie for me than a movie for her. Yes. And I certainly fell in love with Looney Toons when I was her age. And Looney Toons are kind of a primal entertainment. Of course. The Irr minions, right? Exactly. And so I was a little bit befuddled by the movie. Sure. And that might have just been the circumstances under which we saw it.

3:04So a crucial distinction is that Looney Toons are in large part visual humor. And I knew that I had me not like a miscalculation, but I knew that I had a different understanding of what we were getting into. When Wiley Coyote's jokes were all words written on a sign and my four year old can't read yet. So I'm sitting there wrestling a two year old. Again, you know, I wasn't the ideal movie goer at this situation. And thanks to everyone at the lock and the out of eight. But I'm like wrestling a two year old and leaning over to a four year old to read the signs so that he can understand the joke. And I was like, Oh, okay. So not not at this level, kids movie. I think that's right. I think it's like for somewhere between eight to 12 is a more appropriate age where you can read and you get the visual cues. And maybe you have a pre-existing relationship with Looney Toons. But also you might be interested in a legal comedy because this is truly a legal comedy. And that's cool. And look, Hoofram Roger Abbott one of my favorite movies of all time.

4:04So the integration of live action and animated I think is really, really artfully done in this movie. Sure. And I do love the Looney Toons, but the Looney Toons don't hold a lot of, they certainly don't hold as much. I don't know. Interest, I think generally speaking for younger kids now than they did say 20 years ago or 50 years ago, does that seem accurate to you? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say that there are any, there's like no branded merchandise available. I wonder if that's disallowed because of the way that this film was acquired and who owns the Looney Toons brand. Right. But also I think in the way that you just, my children do know who Mickey Mouse is, but they don't really know any of the Looney Toons. And they also know who Paw Patrol is, which is just real tough. Because those billboards are everywhere. Yeah, the Dino movie. We've managed to avoid that. Nox can recognize it, but I just explained to him that we don't have Paw Patrol on the big picture. So, and we do not. Well, it's been a fact. Yeah. I did hear from a mutual friend of ours that they really enjoyed the Paw Patrol movie.

5:06Okay. I'll tell you about that. Mike. I think this is a really interesting, it's obviously a fascinating business story. The movie itself, I think is cool and was kind of destined to be a cult object as soon as Warner Brothers shook it off. I do think it's, it is a little bit once again, like a reckoning with people who are trying to kind of reprocess the things that they loved when they were young and make it mainstream for younger people. I think my five year old and your four year old are just a little bit below the cutoff line of interest. But I have heard plenty of people say that they're seven and eight year olds really, really had a fun time with it. And movies like this also can be like gateways to more grown up adult stuff. This might be the first courtroom that, or certainly the one of the first conference room tables across which there is a deposition. No, there's a courtroom. There's a courtroom. Yeah, there's a courtroom. Yeah, I was thinking specifically of John Cena going nose to nose, the rule of forte. Just a fascinating artifact to me. And a movie that I would say has soft recommend.

6:08It did come in second place at the box office to Spider-Man brand new day, which is in its fifth weekend. Still at number one. Yeah, it made $22 million. It's not quite going to get to a billion. It is probably going to get past. And is that disappointing to you personally? No. But I was, it was like, you look so curious about. I was, I was like, could a film domestically get to a billion dollars? That's something that's never happened before. Okay. And it doesn't look like it, but that's fine. The Odyssey. Yeah. It came in third place this weekend with $14 million. It's been seven, eight weeks since the Odyssey came out. It's made $560 million in America. Okay. That's good. That's not as much as Oppenheimer made. If I recall. No, it is. It is. Yeah. No Oppenheimer made like 980 worldwide. I think this is going to make 100, like 1.8 billion worldwide. Okay. Good. So that's a lot. Oh, that's good. It's very good. Good job. Yeah. Spider-Man and the Odyssey represent like a 60% of the box office this summer.

7:09Maybe more. Maybe it's 80% of the box office. Any thoughts? I think we knew that that was coming. And that's okay. Spider-Man thing. Well, I knew it would be big. I never would have guessed second biggest movie of all time. Third biggest movie of all time. I guess I wouldn't have either just because I don't really sit there with my charts as much as you do. I do like a chart. You and the boys. Sound news and deals. Yeah. Hello. I'm still not on that. You don't want to be on that. You don't want to be on that. You don't want to be on that. You don't want to be excluded. Yeah. I'm like the news and deals therapist. It's like you all come to me individually with your complaints, your questions, your thoughts. And that's fine. News and deals is a test chain with some friends of our, mutual friends of ours that is primarily about physical media and strongly held movie opinions. I don't care about. Anyway, I, if I'm actually thought about it for three seconds, I mean, no way home was absolutely like a rocket ship. And we at the same time were like, wow, didn't really see this coming. I think it's just going to get a best picture nomination.

8:11And we should have seen that coming. I mean, it's Spider-Man. People really like Spider-Man and young people really like Spider-Man. So I, you know, I don't think that I could have predicted the, the historical stats, but that Oppenheimer and brand new day were going to be the two tent poles of the summer. I mean, we organized our vacation schedule around that. We had some idea. You're right. We, we sure did do that. And thank you to my wife for being understanding about that. Thank you to my end, Moss. Um, yeah, I, I think I would, if you would have asked me to guess, I would have said that movie will make $1.7 billion or $1.8 billion, not $2.5 or whatever it's going to end up at. And, you know, it sounds like maybe not a big deal if you're not a movie podcaster, but it, it's, that's a wide chasm. That's a big gap. I mean, making it one of the biggest movies of all time is fascinating. And again, like, I don't think we can say, well, that's just, that was a blip. No way home at the time, I felt certain that it would be really popular despite COVID because they were doing something that had really never been done before with bringing

9:11the previous iterations of those characters altogether. This was just a Spider-Man movie. I mean, it introduced an X-man, an X-woman, but aside from that, it was, you know, villains and MJ and Peter and, you know, emotional trauma set against New York City. Yeah. A good version of it. But anyway, um, I remain fascinated by it. The only other movie which I assume you did not see or take your children to that was a notice we're going to be as buddy. So buddy is a new horror movie, independently released horror movie from Casper Kelly who made too many cooks. And the movie is sort of like a mullage of Barney the Dinosaur and P.W.Y.S. playhouse, but if it were a horror movie, you know, as if the originals aren't. Well, there's something unnerving and creepy about the originals. Um, P.W.Y.S. playhouse, I adore and was raised on. Was it? Barney was a little bit after my time. Is it Daniel Clueh who's making a Barney movie, but for grownups, but, you know, you have to imagine that there's, well, that happened now because of buddy, um, buddy, which

10:14I also did see, uh, which I thought was had a very, very like sharply drawn and entertaining first two thirds. And then I thought kind of overstated to welcome a little bit in the third act, but was a cool movie. Um, it made almost six million dollars at the box office over the weekend on like a thousand screens, which is honestly a huge success for a movie like this. I just think it's cool. And I just want to know that. People didn't want to see a Lordy and his dog. I mean, it almost made as much money as the dog. I know. The dog started made eight million dollars. It made 19 million dollars worldwide. This is a hundred million dollar post apocalyptic thriller from the man who made a million. He means sort of a thriller. Right. Sure. Yeah. More of a chiller. Yeah. More of a more of a ridley and chiller. Um, what does this mean? The dog starts struggles here. Anything. Ridley's making treasure Island next. Yeah. I, I mean, I guess this is like a notable box office failure for Ridley. But it's, it's not like anyone's taken his last three to four movies hugely seriously.

11:15It's true. So I, you know, he'll keep going because as you mentioned, Scott free is such like a giant production and he is kind of his own universe and keep, can keep funding stuff. Does it mean that the, or is it another reminder that the reinforcement? Or the support for old school movies starring movie stars made by people who were big in the 90s. No one really cares anymore. Yeah. Like that's no one cares. Yeah. I took a little hit. Yeah. Zendaya, Tom Holland. Okay. Yeah. Jacob, a Lordy Margaret quality. Yeah. Maybe not quite there yet. Um, the interesting to see how they react in terms of their careers. I was just watching a film that Margaret quality starring in this fall just last night that we can talk about. And we get back from the fall festivals. Okay. Um, any other, any other news in the world? Do you know what's for you? You mentioned X men. We didn't really check in on that. Okay. Oh, well, let's talk about that because X men, I guess we have to keep the podcast going till May, 2028 now.

12:16Yes. And now we've agreed to extend the world at the show. But, you know, over the weekend, it was announced that in halfway, it would be joining Tom Cruz and days of thunder to this is the big news. So now it's June, 2028 that we have to keep podcasting. We honestly like need a, you know, one of the countdown boards here where it's just June, you know, 28 and we just keep revising it. One of the wonderful things about movie fin is even when it comes to a movie like Days of Thunder, I don't really have much of a relationship at all to the original Days of Thunder. I don't think it's that great. It's not one of my Tom Cruz movies, not one of my Tony Scott movies. A lot of people love it. That's cool. It's being re, you know, rebooted for a reason, but you know, I love in half the way. I know. I do too. And I love her going after the brass ring. Well, she can. She's having a huge summer. And she's like, I'm caching my chips in right now. Attach me to your mega franchise, Jerry Bruckheimer. I think it's a smart idea. The cool kid, man, not available. Apparently, do you think happened there? Well, so she's playing a neuroscientist, right? She what she did in the original. She did or a neurosurgeon neurosurgeon.

13:18That's right. So 24 year old neurosurgeon. Yeah. I think probably, I don't know. And don't you think her brain is like the neurosurgeons brain is like frozen somewhere in science doing something else. So you think the character is just unavailable? You think she'll be dead in the film? Her character will be dead. I think they won't talk anymore. Interesting. Yeah. Tom Cruise, you think he will be the man behind the wheel, the primary engine, so to speak, of the movie. Or will there be a baton pass? Will there be a mile teller who's involved? And he'll be the the new man. Yeah. Or who's in days of thunder, not new man. Days of thunder is Robert Duval. Duval, right. And new man is color of money. I think that he will be driving because he's Tom Cruise and he can't help it. And you know, pit did F1. And so now he has to also get in the wheel. And I'm sure he'll be at NASCAR events for like 45 years. NASCAR versus F1. What are your thoughts? I did. The people are driving fast. I really honestly, I don't. Sintillating commentary.

14:19I do in general like movies where things go fast. Uh-huh. You do. That is a vein of action movie that speaks to me. But there's usually, like, except for in the case of F1, a narrative built around it. And I don't really understand what's going on with F1 and NASCAR. I didn't watch the Netflix show. I know everyone who watched the show, it's been narrativeized. It does also seem like the F1 culture, which people, Julia, at Litman, for example, is a huge fan. And she's like, I think this would speak to you. But it has sort of a vagus feel to it that doesn't speak to me. Okay. So I, you know, I know people love it. I wish them well. I feel like it's really more about monoco and places like that, right? That's the most destinations you enjoy. I've never been to Monaco. Okay. I mean, you're working on that. I guess so. Yeah. Days of Thunder II, which is going to be directed by Jonathan Levina, a filmmaker who doesn't have a ton of experience making movies like this. Like big action, 10 pulley films. So be interesting to see how that tracks over.

15:20But happy for halfway. Yeah. She's crushing it. We got she's got another movie coming out in one month. Will it be mentioned here on our fall movie preview? Oh, I forgot to put that on there. Yeah. Oh, well, spoiler alert for our progress. All right. I know what I'm going to do then. Okay. Look at that. Wha-whoa. Wha-whoa. Wha-whoa. What do we maybe just circle back to that title that was just deleted? Okay. Well, let's let's let's talk about the fall. Okay. So it's been a very top heavy first eight months of the year in terms of big ticket releases. And certainly when it comes to the prestige award season, this is high time. And yet the Odyssey has already come out and taken over movie culture. I think it's reasonable to assume that the Odyssey is going to get somewhere between 11 and 14 Oscar nominations. And I think it is the heavy betting favorite right now to win best picture. Absolutely. So this is kind of unusual because we I guess we did have this with Oppenheimer a few years ago. But by that point, Christopher Nolan had never not gotten over the hump yet.

16:20With the Academy Awards. And now there does feel like a bit of a foregone conclusion just in terms of that specific component of the next six to seven months of what movies are people going to see what are they interested in and what is sort of like this. The primacy of movie culture. It doesn't mean that there's not a lot of really interesting stuff coming out. And I'm very excited not just to go to tell you right, but to kind of map out this year. It feels a little bit smaller though than it does most years. Like you've been mentioning the Thanksgiving opening and many people have pointed out to us that Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out November 20th. Right. And that legitimately will take over a huge portion of like pop cultural hive mind. I think that's very smart to people who have noted that to us. And certainly box office. And people will be staying home and not going out. And it does seem to your point about the Odyssey that the studios, the people programming for Oscars, et cetera, have decided. Okay. So the Odyssey is the big budget prestige Oscars movie.

17:22We don't have to, we don't really have to compete in that vein. And so if we're going to be going for dollars, which we are the rest of the time, we're going with franchises and or like what is the new meat? The fucker is called. Focker and law. Focker and law, which is also I believe scheduled for Thanksgiving and is just, you know, pure like family counter programming. And honestly, looks mildly funny to me. Yeah. I'm sure it'll be entertaining. So, um, yeah. So that the Odyssey has kind of cleared the board in terms of people trying to compete in the heavyweight. Yeah. Most of what we've done here in terms of what we're talking about is not quite December releases. It's more the sort of September, October, November stuff and a lot of plenty of time to talk about that. But obviously we do have do in part three, which is one of those large franchises that you're talking about, which is also has is also an Oscar contender. That's an unusual circumstance where in all likelihood given the fact that it's won some awards in recent years has been nominated for best picture. That one will think about and we did a projectile Mary, which, yeah, I think is similarly a kind of a big tent movie that a lot of people want to go

18:24see. And so if you take those three movies, it's like, wow, we've got three pretty mainstream movies that are serious best picture contenders. So how did you think about five movies you can't wait to see just pure primal emotion? Yeah, instinct. I just opened the doc up on my phone and started writing. It's rare that I get an empty slate, right, where you have handed me the outline without claiming things. I'll tell you what. So I was thrilled to see that you filled it in when you did. OK. I was like, I thought a man who was solo parenting and busy and just in the doc on a Saturday. No, I think you'll notice. And that also, I think someone was like in my lap, listening to the almost song while that happened. Listen, we've got a good time somehow doing the best that we can. What's the almost song? Sing it for us. The almost song. The, no, that's almost slide. This is the song. La la la la. Almost song. Yeah. And then it's a bird song and snaffy song. Yeah, it's like I just had like a true smaddle in moment there, totally. But just for three years ago, and then the next song on the, this is Elmo playlist is the almost slide.

19:26The Elmo, you know, is depth to the left or whatever. You know what we've been getting into is in my house is Charlie XCX. That's when that's when I want to watch. Yeah, party for you. That's our favorite song. And we listened to it eight times in a row yesterday. So she could dance where is she on music fashion film? Not quite there. A little too far rock, I would say. Oh, interesting. We don't want heavy guitars. We want, yeah, but like a sort of like a faint rock music is a faint. Yeah. I know. I know what she means. I think chapel and, and, and Kate Bush and, you know, interesting. And Carolyn Policek, like those, those vibes are kind of like, do you play into that daily Williams? Do you play Brat for her? Or is that too? It's a little like the, I don't want cocaine references. Sure. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Orbit, but, um, yeah, party for you. Just it was an absolute recital. Really exciting. Anyhow, um, are we talking about that? Oh, Elmo, Elmo and Tyler making a list. Yeah, however, but I think you'll notice that I only feel, I feel that the top five. And then everything else I came back for later because, uh, you know, life comes

20:27at you fast. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? You have a great one. You go first. Cause I like, I, I, I co-sign your whole list. Thank you. I co-sign most of your list. Oh, that's great. So we're, these are five movies we just can't wait to see. Yeah. And I tried to think about this for the most part as movies where I, I feel like I don't really know a lot. And the other thing is that I've seen a couple of really big ticket releases that I'm embargoed from talking about. Right. I know that's obnoxious, but I just can't credibly say I can't wait to see something I've already seen. I was, I was wondering about this because I know you do this and you do a lot of pre screening. And this is what's called where for, sorry, to be annoying and insideery, but for critics, they will show movies that are going to premiere at the festivals before the festivals in case you can't get to the festival or because it can be hectic to see as many movies as you want. There's one other reason too, which is that they're trying to lock down schedules for talent very early in advance. So if you like a movie and you want to have someone on a show like this, you want to say that we definitely want to do this. And so sometimes some studios will show movies to me like that.

21:30And I think most of the movies I've seen will be able to talk about literally a week from now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so they won't be discussed today from my perspective. Right. But I mean, I was just thinking about, and you pre-screen mostly to book talent. I understand that. But otherwise, I was like, wow, this really seems like a hassle to be pre-screeding everything because then you can't talk about it. And then you're like the asshole who's like, well, I've seen all these things. I know. I just want to ask about that experience because I think it is kind of interesting who it all works. Sure. But it is obnoxious to be like, well, I can't tell you and I apologize for that. Yeah. Okay, my first movie is Whalefall, which we walked out of Cinemacon in April seeing a five-minute clip of the film, which is written and directed by Brian Duffield and adapted from a very popular novel by Daniel Kraus about a man played by Austin Abrams who is swallowed by a whale. And the showed us the footage of him being swallowed by the whale. And it was very... He was about to be swallowed by the whale. So they did not spoil any of the exciting...

22:31I read the log line. Sure. But the log line is guy gets swallowed by whale. Yeah, but we don't know what happens inside the whale. We don't. We have no idea. He doesn't actually make it. Maybe that was the last five minutes of the movie. He doesn't make it into the whale's esophagus. He does not. So which apparently has like 36 chambers. So I'm looking forward to seeing. Much like Woojang. And Shaolin. I am really excited for this. I know plenty of people have watched the trailer. And since it has been really the two trailers since they've been released. And we're like, no, can't do that. That's two upsetting. That's two intense. That's two, I don't know. I don't know. Are people concerned about being swallowed by whales? Is that a fear that people have? I guess it evokes fear in them. Okay. Have you been scuba diving? Have you talked about this? No. I wouldn't do it. I am not really interested in listening. No, scuba. As you know. As Hank Azaria once said in a long day, Paulie Scuba. As you know, I love swimming in the ocean. But I want to stay on the surface. I respect the power of the ocean. We don't know very much about the ocean. I don't have a James Cameron thing where I want to be in a boat driving around. I mean, we all know what happened there.

23:31What about a submersible? Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't want to be in a submersible. Okay. I don't either. That's terrifying. Listen, and there's, I mean, we don't know anything about like all the creatures down there. We don't know how far it goes. Fucking whales. Yeah. Listen, no, but there are things we don't even have discovered. Oh, yeah. Yeah, wait until your son is like, can we watch a video about jellyfish? Well, I don't have a son. I know, but he's going to come over and be like, hey, Sean, can I teach you about jellyfish? Yeah, and I hope a kid doesn't show up in my door like 30 years later. Hey, dad, it's me. I jellyfish group setting, very upsetting. What film did we just see with the, oh, the Amazon Prime horror film The Devil's Mouth? Okay. Starring Lana Condor. Okay. And there's just a, and is it a man-a-war? No, it's not a man-a-war, but it is a school of jellyfish. I don't know how you would describe them that attack Catherine Newton, the actress Catherine Newton. Okay. Very violently when she's swimming in Thailand. I've heard you jump out of the boat. Anyhow, whale fall.

24:31To me looks fun. Now it's interesting that Josh Rollin is apparently playing the same character he played in the dog stars in whale fall. Sure. He's sort of like hard-bitten, masculine, man, survivalist figure. I'm done clear. Maybe he plays Austin Abrams' father. Yeah, because we have to have, right, sure, because there needs to be a trauma and, you know, like something that you're the reason that you're being eaten by whale. And what you have to learn once you're inside the whale, along with how does gravity work inside a whale. We don't know yet. We're going to find out when we see the film. I am very much looking forward to it. It is, it's in a sweet spot. I think it would be really fun. And we were both very stressed out and also a little bit like, ah, when we saw the trailer. So, and also, I mean, it's a great bit. I love a bit, you know. It is a good bit. We need to know this. The film's called whale fall. Sure. Number five for you. Yeah. Making Rian Twinnett, which is the making of, it's like it says in the title. Right on the label. It was filmed on the set of Rian Twinnett, my favorite Sophia Coppola movie, which will be celebrating its 20th anniversary this fall.

25:33There are a lot of events. Most of this film was directed and filmed by Sophia's late mother, Ellen Coppola, who also, of course, directed Hearts of Darkness, the making of documentary about apocalypse now. That is one of the greats. Sophia Coppola finished the film after her mother's passing. So, you know, Ellen or Coppola is a great, was a great filmmaker and also a great writer and a great chronicler of what it means to make films and also to be a woman in the orbit of making films. So, I'm very excited about her perspective on this movie and I'm here for all. Rian Twinnett content. Do you know, is it entirely like cinema verite, observing the scene? Is there any look back component to it where people are talking about the experience? I don't know. I don't know. Interesting. That doesn't totally seem like Sophia's vibe. Sophia would be more like Hearts of Darkness, right? We're sort of like all in the moment. But I would also be curious to hear Shortsman and Dunston and Coppola and Sophia and all

26:35of those people talking now too about what the movie means and how it was received and how it's been back in the culture. They announced today that they're also, if you happen to be at Versailles in the next six months, they're just thinking. Just engaged. You're popping on by. I don't know if you're in Paris. You've been to Versailles? I did. I wanted a really bad date to Versailles. Do you know this story? Were you setting me up for this one? No. Maybe I do, but I've forgotten. Yeah. So, when I was like the summer that I was studying in Paris, I don't know, I was single and I ended up going on a date with a German guy to Versailles and the thing about going on a date to Versailles from Paris is that like you have to take a long train. I mean, it's an hour, but still it's going to a second location with a hippie. Instead, it's a German man and then you're stuck at Versailles. German guy. What was that like? He was tall. Interesting. But then you're stuck there and you're like, oh, I don't want to be here on this date anymore with you, but you're just in a garden at Versailles and you get to get back and you know the French with their lines and then you're still like taking your train back. I don't know where you're taking your train back.

27:36Could you tell immediately from the train ride that it was a bust? Yeah, I think so. But I was also 19. So, like, what did I know about anything? How would you meet at a bar, I think? You met in a bar. Yeah, I said, let's go to Versailles. Yeah. I mean, listen. And strange life you've lived. I, that's interesting. Anyway, but they're doing like an exhibit there about the movie and Petitriano, which was the, you know, the country home that Maria Antoinette built were the last part of the movie. You've seen the film. It was on our 25 or 25 list. I didn't want the name of the country home. Okay. I mean, country also just means it's like in a different garden in Versailles. Anyway, there will be a lot. They are making an event of this anniversary as they should. But so maybe, maybe there's a retrospective element to it, but I don't know. We'll see. Is that film playing a verse? No. As annoying. It's playing at the New York Film Festival. Cheesh. Listen. I, you know, I would love to be there, but I'm a mom, you know? That's it. You're just the mom. I'm a mom.

28:36I got to be here for size first week of school. That's right. That's right. I'm just going to be a fucking shambles for that one. He's going to be so loud. I will be able to hear him screaming at me from preschool when I am back home. Okay. Let's go to my next one. Number four is yet another movie that I don't know very much about, which is El Sonor, which I feel fairly confident will be at one of these film festivals that I'll be attending in the near future. It is a new film starring Andrew Scott and Olivia Coleman. It is directed by a man named Simon Stone because not have a ton of film credits is best known, I think, for his theater and television work. He did do a movie in 2021 called The Dig that I saw that it was just fine. Oh, that's the Carrie Mulligan Ray Fines arc. Yeah. You saw that, right? Yeah. Not bad. In my wheelhouse. Certainly. The film is about, it feels like in many ways, it kind of spiritual follow up to Ham Net because it's about an actor based on a real life actor named Ian Charleston.

29:40Charleston, excuse me, who portrayed Hamlet at the National Theater while he was seriously ill from AIDS. And Hamlet and all of its heavy meaning colliding with Andrew Scott's seriousness and skills in actor. I think it's very interesting. This is one of those movies that like, I've had a couple people whisper in my ear. Andrew Scott. I mean, wonderful. I love who he was. Yeah. Who's a great actor, who's been an amazing thing. Who is one of the great awards season contenders? Yes. I mean, let's just get him on the party circuit. Well, just like a great hang is a person, very stylish, but very thoughtful and sweet. He was on the show a few years ago and for all of us strangers, it was wonderful. And his amazing and Ripley television series. He's just such a terrific actor. He's great in Blue Moon last year. And so I'm very much looking forward to that one. That's probably the most kind of like down beat reserved film that I have on my list. But I wanted to have one because I do think that that is kind of the essence of this season

30:43is there. You'll find a lot more historical dramas. You'll find a lot more sensitive portrayals of a struggling artist. And that is that's certainly a signature of Telluride. That kind of a film is really prized there. And so who knows if it'll be there. If I had to guess, I'd say, we'll be. But we shall see. And that's a focus movie that is coming out later this year. Well fingers crossed for you. Thank you. And for the mountains. Okay. What's next for you? A movie I'm seeing in 36 hours. Wow. I got my ticket. Inc. The Danny Boyle drama that we've been talking about a lot, another biographical drama. And maybe not downbeat necessarily, but this is about Reubert Murdoch. And when Reubert Murdoch bought the sun newspaper in the UK and kind of his invasion of Fleet Street, stars, Guy Pierce, Jack O'Connell, Claire Foy. I'm just jazzed. This is a little bit that I love movies about newspapers. I love movies starring Jack O'Connell, Guy Pierce and Claire Foy. And I'm excited. This will be the first movie that I see at Venice. It's the opening night of the Venice Film Festival. But listen, the trailer, the poster that looks like there's some energy to it, I'm excited.

31:49I'm really excited about this too. I think what a Boyle's great movie is Steve Jobs. And so I'm hopeful that it kind of has that same energy where he brings that. Kinetic energy in his filmmaking style to a story that in other hands would be like flat and dull. But like the way that he moves the camera, the way that his films are cut, the way that he uses music in his movies. You know, we've never had, I've never had Danny Boyle on the show. We praised his work over the years, but he did go in a little bit of a downturn with yesterday. Yeah, I just like to get in the comfort. You know, I wasn't going to ask him to come on for a movie that I don't like very much. But I do, I think he's got an extraordinary career. We could do a whole episode about his amazing run of films we should. I look forward to that movie too. Hopefully I'll be able to see it soon as well. My next film is an interesting one to me. It's Resident Evil, which of course is a movie that I've had circled on the calendar for a year going back to when right around this time, I guess I had that Craigor on the pod to talk about weapons. And he was saying that he was doing this. It was officially happening. He was adapting the Resident Evil video game of which there have already been, I think, seven film adaptations,

32:54largely with Paul W. S. Anderson and Emilio Vich, married couple who made those movies. And then there was a raccoon city film spin off like five years ago. You know, they're kind of schlocky sci-fi action horror movies. Sometimes you say things and I just like nod my head, but like raccoon city. What's happening? Raccoon city. Here's the whole wiki for it. Okay. I mean, I believe you, but it's like, it's a fictional city in the Midwestern United States that appears in the Resident Evil series of survival horror video games. People think that I complain and bimbo and all of the stuff that you say and that I do have to learn, but like I just let so many things fly right by, you know? Sure. Well, I mean, there were millions and millions of Resident Evil fans. This one is not that obscure. No, I don't think that I just raccoon city. Yes, of course. Absolutely. I am jacked for this movie. For obvious reasons, I love Craigor's movies. I love the trailers for the movies. This is the second Austin Abrams film on my list so far. Yeah. It seems like it's relatively modestly scaled if that makes sense that it's from the perspective

33:56of one character feels like it's over one crazy night when we, the zombie apocalypse is starting. And I'm sure we very violent and gross as the Resident Evil games are. But honestly, just to continue to speak from my personal perspective, one of the things I really like about it is I just don't know anything. I haven't seen it. I haven't talked to anybody who's seen it. I don't know. I don't know what it's screening. I don't know anything about it. It might be one of those movies where it's like, maybe you see it the day before it comes out. And there's something kind of exciting about getting kept away from me. Yeah, being getting to be a kid again. Yeah, exactly. Well, you can't have. I know. And you can have most things now. But this is such a box in blockbuster. I wish my parents would let me rent kind of movie. And I was just talking to somebody this morning about that feeling of the illicit material that is still mainstream. This is a great version of that. So I'm very much anticipating this movie. And as more time goes by, the more I think that it's going to be a really big hit. I'm not quite sure how big that means, but it feels like anybody who's in this world

34:57before is like, have you seen it? Have you seen it? What's going on with this? It's going on with this. So I look forward to it. My number three is my version of this for you, which is, you know, the moms can have fun too, Verity. The latest Colleen Hoover adaptation directed by Michael Schoelalter, our girl in halfway, my girl Dakota Johnson, our guy Josh Hartnett, this looks like the highest level trash. And if they can really lean into both the high level and the trash, then I will have a delightful time. Is this film, does it have a supernatural element? Or is that a psych out? I don't know. And I don't want to know. I just want to go see the movie. We were given copies of the books at Cinemacon. Yeah. And then, and well, I don't know, there were because of very nice listener and friend. Maybe did you bring it all the way home, though? I think so. Anyway, as we were walking out with the books, a very nice listener and now internet friend

35:58was like, you're going to hate this book. Don't read it. So I didn't. So I don't know. I'm just going to watch the movie. Interesting. And did you read any of the other Hoover books before doing pods? I did. I've read snippets of it and it's with us. Okay. I kind of understand what was going on. But what's the J. Franco? Allison Williams, one called regretting you? Yes. Nope. That one was what? Dave Franco. Is it James Franco? Yes. Okay. James Franco. I don't know. I was thinking about James Franco was on my can flight. So I'm just excited about who's going to be on my Venice flight tonight. James Franco was on your can flight? Yeah. He was like out at can. Remember? He was trying to come back. He, you did see him at premieres because he was just there everywhere. Glad to be like, I'm James Franco. I'm going to ask him my back. He's back. I don't know whether he's back. One thing in Verity's favor is it's written by Nick Antoska, who is mostly a TV show runner who created this great show channel zero that I really, really like. He worked on Cape Fear, which people didn't know. Like I didn't see that show. But that's part of why I ask like how real is the supernatural versus the thriller component.

37:05And it is that something that is in Colleen Hoover's back. You know, can she do a spooky ghost story in addition to some erotically charged? Okay. Um, dark romance. Yeah. Drama. I don't know. We'll find out. Michael Showalter? He makes movies. It's made quite a few. Yeah. He makes a very specific kind of movie now. The adapted from a literary sensation. But often told from the perspective of a woman. Yes. You know? Yeah. Like starring. Waiwalkers is what they call them in the 1950's. Did you see what fun I didn't the Christmas special starring Michelle Fyfer, I believe among others? I did watch most of it. Yes, Michelle Fyfer. A lot of wallpaper is my review wallpaper. Beautiful wallpaper. Plumbing the depths with these reviews today, but you know, eyes of Tammy Faye. Yeah. The spoiler alert was was not from the perspective of a woman about about a gay couple and one and a half of that couple gets very sick based on a true story.

38:06The idea of you, which I actually loved, which I think you loved. Well, they just let halfway cook and that one. Yeah, they did. Yeah, she did. This was that movie is the beginning of the run where she's like, it's my time now. I'm totally agree. I agree. And I, I liked it. She looked great in everything. And the line where he's like, I've always wanted to go to Glendale. Funny. That was funny. You don't like Nicholas Galatine. I don't really think he has it. And I still haven't seen Masters of the Universe. Maybe I'll watch it on a plane because I got some alerts. It's been me a photo of you watching it. I just send me a selfie. I need to know what your face looks like. I thought at Cinemacon when they made him ask everyone to raise their swords up and say the little tagline, what is it? I have the power. Right. And he looked pretty and sheepish, but he did it anyway. And I felt for him in that moment, but that was the first time that I had, you know, I was like, oh, this is cute. He's trying technically it's by the power of Grace. Goal. I have the power which is a little redundant.

39:07He says power. So what's up? What does Grace goal do? So that's Jared Leto in the movie? No, that's scale tour. OK. Grace goal is sort of like the castle and also the abuse him with some powers that allows him to transform in he man. He's Adam. OK. Yeah. And he transforms into he man. Sure. Yeah. It's like Adam, you know, a boy haircut, huge muscles kind of changes his costumes and those like, I don't know, whatever. Yeah. Variety. Yeah. We'll see. We're doing a whole episode about Variety. Is that a good idea? Yeah. We're going to have a great time. I think that's going to be a remote episode. So maybe it'll be some only in ginger. Oh, because you're probably in New York when this happens. Yeah. And that'll be while I will be at home listening to the ice cream to me from preschool. Exactly. That's sad. I do is a film that has a title. It did not have a title for a very long time. Sure. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, this is a movie I also don't know very much about. It's called the further misadventures of Cliff Booth. It's coming only to IMAX screens, not other movie theaters.

40:10So I guess that's only like 50, 300. I'm not even sure how many IMAX screens there are in America. And Netflix is releasing it. It's directed by David Fincher. Yeah. The screenplay is by Cointin Tarantino. It stars Brad Pitt. I learned over the weekend that Peter Weller is in the film because I saw a video on Instagram of him talking about how he appears in the film as Cliff Booth's father. Okay. Spoiler alert. We saw a one minute teaser trailer during the Super Bowl. Yes. That teaser trailer was not officially posted online by Netflix. Since then, it's been more or less radio silent. We learned there were some reshoots on the movie, but I guess it took place over the summer. Yeah. And that's it. This is one of the least marketed movies starring Brad Pitt based on Once Upon a Time in Hollywood that you could ever have. Now I'm sure there's some purposeful reason for withholding some of this stuff. And it is about to be September, October. Netflix historically doesn't market their movies as aggressively as a Warner Brothers or a Sony would.

41:10But this is a real curiosity thing now where I'm like, what is this movie going to be? I have no idea. The reshoots news broke while I was on vacation. And so we talked a little bit about it. And at first, the obvious, ooh, outlook, not good. And then the more we talked about it, well, like many movies have reshoots and it's still on track for the November release. And we were confused that it's not in any festivals. For a while, I did think that it was going to be at Venice because Netflix historically has a big presence at Venice. And Ink is being released by Netflix. It was acquired. So I don't, something, it's strange. It's not, it's unusual. Basically, we don't really know what's going on here. And it also doesn't follow the pattern of either a classical prestige release, which you would expect from the three names that you just mentioned. And it's on the pedigree of one time time in Hollywood. Exactly. And it also doesn't follow, I guess it's closer to a Netflix release.

42:13But what Netflix is doing with it is kind of new and not in the Netflix playbooks. Yeah. And the spot that Narnia was holding when Narnia got pushed back to February, which is interesting. I'm a little bit perplexed on how to cover the movie because I think it's going to be a hot ticket when it's made available amongst a certain kind of, you know, movie crazy person. And I presume it will do like decent business on a very small number of screens. I don't know if Netflix will have to report that business. But I don't know if, like, well, enough people will be seeing it that we should just be talking spoilers and all about the people to one of our favorite movies of the world. And the last 10 years, I mean, that one's one time in Hollywood. I hold in like the highest esteem. I think that is absolute top tier Terrence Terrence. I know. There was a real argument in 25 or 25 of whether it would be inglorious bastards or once upon a time. I love once upon a time. And like a truly magical experience seeing it at the Sinorama dome on your birthday. And then going to Franken, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know. One of the one of honestly one of my favorite days in living in LA.

43:15And then didn't you like leave for Europe that night? I did. It was just a great, great time. Yeah, that's, you know what, that's so good memory. That's living hobby's life and I support you. Thank you. Thank you for that. No, I'm excited to see it. I am too. It's just, it's just, my opinion is that we should just cover it. And, you know, people come with me. Well, then if you're not able to see it in IMAX, then you can come listen to the episode after the fact. I think we're all adults. Will it be a month after it's IMAX release that will be on the service? I guess they want it to be available for Christmas, I presume. Yeah. It's another kind of unusual outlier scenario in these modern times. And I'm close tracking very closely how Netflix releases their films. Yeah. We have the long window for LeBola Negra. We have the full release for Narnia, for the, the, the, the, the musicians nephew, which I've read. Yeah. And I'll be able to bring a really scholarly perspective on the film. Release in February. And then I think it's smart. I think it's a good time to release it. You think it's a good time to release it. I just listen.

44:16I just, I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I'm just like none of this, none of the science point towards something that I am, I feel, I just mean from the business perspective. Sure. There's going to be a nice little runway there in February. That's completely true. I am just worried about the quality of the film. Yeah. We shall see. Okay. Okay. Number two for you. Primetime. Yeah. See you next Saturday night, baby. Yeah. I'm jealous of this one. I'm going to the premiere. I'm so excited. About catch predator and rubber patented plays Chris Hansen and it looks weird and upsetting and interesting. And I believe in rubber patented. I will follow him to the ends of the earth. Has already got another meme just off the train. I know. It's unbelievable. So very excited about this. I am too. I am, I really hope I'm going to see this soon. Yeah. But I don't know if I am. Okay. And that's okay. And I'll make it through that movie. If you had to guess, yeah. Well that be Pattinson's real shot at an Academy Award recognition this year.

45:21Not a win per se, but just a nomination. Well we haven't seen June three yet, but he is also playing a villain. So you have to assume that the villain and the Odyssey versus the villain in June three are going to kind of cancel each other out in terms of voting allotment. I still absolutely love the drama, but I think that it is going to be forgotten in the Academy Awards race, both because A24 will have other places to spend its time and money in pushing things. And also, I guess it was controversial enough or edge lorry enough, I should say, that it's not going to, I think the invite is going to take its place. And I also really, really like the invite to invite as another A24 movie that is provocative, but it's sex instead of, you know, spoiler alert school shooting. I think it's also middle aged. And not 29. And there's like, there's a difference there. Yeah. So I love both movies. I think the drama is wonderful.

46:21Probably still my one of my favorite movies of the year, but I don't think he'll make it in for that. Okay. So by process of elimination, yes, prime time. It will be interesting. He really is, he's in rare, rare right now, where there is this. I think he has both artistic bona fides and a fandom, but he's not bound by his, his fandom. You know, obviously he's still making Batman and that's a very, it was a very smart move. And that's coming next, but I don't know, taking on these parts is really, I really, he's, he's so cool. I think it's great. I never was digger. Yeah. I just want to see it. You know, I just, I want to know what's interesting. I mean, I do want to know, but the question of I, do I want to see it is really, really interesting. I was like, I don't do I want to see it. I mean, I want to, I want to like it. Like I, I really want to like it. And I do too. I love a strange, lovey and kind of, you know, satirical, big top movie. I love a big, bold acting performance.

47:23I love Tom Cruise as a movie star and as an actor. I agree with all of this, but I mean, this is what's been interesting about this movie from the beginning and from the first, first poster. Just like I, I want it to be good. I want Tom Cruise to be back. I want interesting, you know, movies and I just, there's something about it where I'm like, I don't know if I just actually want to sit through it. I do want to sit through it, but that there is something that's warning signaling that's putting me off the experience of it, which is prejudging a movie, which I shouldn't do. I, on the flip side, my expectations are probably lower than they normally would be for Tom Cruise's great return to non-franchise acting. So in that sense, maybe my mind is just going to be blown. It's possible and sometimes that can be very beneficial going into a movie. I think this, this also, you know, most of the movies on my list are not really festival films. And I, I think there is something to me actually intriguing about withholding a movie

48:25from those spaces and saying like, well, this, we think this is more commercial, but it's also from an author and it's more high-minded. Like that blend is kind of my sweet spot in terms of taste. I'm not a meaner. Sure. Yeah, I was going to say when it's Paul Thomas Anderson, that is very much a spot. I know. But when it's in a retu, I don't know. And it does feel like it's Warner Brothers again. So they had success with that playbook and they've been burned by festivals recently in the past. Steve Joker, Folly Aduh. Yeah. Don't you have it? No, yeah. No, I haven't. So it does feel like they're trying to run the one battle playbook and what about it? Which is smart business. We'll see. How many days before the movie is released, do you think we'll see it? That's a great question. I mean, have tickets gone on sale yet? Have you bought us special tickets? No. I bought us tickets to see practical magic too. Oh, fun. Okay. Because I don't know if we're going to be back in time to screen that.

49:25Just the heads up for the team there. We may need to record that on a Thursday evening. Okay. Otherwise. I mean, I land Wednesday night and then I'm going to be like, sorry, can't do that tonight. Do you land Wednesday night? Yeah. So we might be able to get you out before bedtime. Okay. Zack, I'm too bad. I'm getting the worst. But that's okay. Maybe I'll do the practical magic too. So by myself. I know. I've thought more about their cinema con presentation than really anything, any live experience that I've had. Sandy and Nick just being kooky for an hour on stage. I'm like in power suits. It was only 15 minutes, but it did feel like an hour. And I found it so aspirational. I want what they have. Yeah. In every way. Or you send your Nick. Well, I think I'm sandy. Just as a hair or some of your essence. Well, I'm like the dry demeanor. You know, I'm not. But we don't really have a Sandy and Nick energy, you know, so. I certainly don't have Nicole Kidman energy. I don't think anyone would claim that I do. I certainly don't have her.

50:26I see the interview that she gave. I think it was to British Vogue where she's like dinner at one 30. Then you go out clubbing at one. I wear a wig. I wear glasses. I just need to be around people. It feeds me. I want to go clubbing with Nicole Kidman. I'm a bailable. I cannot relate to something less than that. I truly don't understand what she's talking about. All right. What's number one for you? Artificial. Luca, I'll never quit you. Even when you malign Top Gun Maverick, which, you know, I saw. That and, you know, smart people can disagree. I've heard to wildly divergent points of view on this movie. Okay. I'm not going to give anything away other than to say one group of people told me that it plays as a laugh out loud comedy. Okay. And the other people told me it plays as one of the bleakest films they've seen in a long time. Okay. Now it's possible that both of those things can coexist. This is also a review of Rachel Cusk's The Life of M. Are you reading that? I read it. Oh. And that's how you feel? I mean, it could be right either way. And in my opinion, neither adds up to a positive experience.

51:29Okay. So I hope that's not the case for artificial. What is artificial about? This is Luca Guadagnino's Simon Rich Pentebio Pick, something we don't know of Sam Altman. And the rise of AI. So it stars Andrew Garfield. It was supposed to be released by Amazon. It is no longer being released by Amazon. For reasons that you can read rumors about on the internet and was required by Neon. I was hoping it was going to be at Venice. I still think that would be cool. Instead, Luca Guadagnino has like a eight hour, I'm not exaggerating, Fernando Bertolucci documentary, which I'm not going to be able to see. And I ride for Luca. And you know, I would prefer to see artificial to the social reckoning at this point. But the social reckoning second trailer was a little better. Okay. And it did have me thinking maybe not a car crash. Okay.

52:29Good. So that's positive. That's the process. You're very, you're very open-hearted to the world right now. I want to have a great fall. Okay. I want to have a great fall. You're setting your intention? Yes. Yeah. What I don't want is to be like, oh, the Odyssey just like dunked on everything this year. I want to have a spirited season of movie going. Same. I'm ready. I'm ready for some good movies. It did feel like after the Odyssey, we spent a lot of time watching interesting movies and movies that I liked, but movies that were placed after the Odyssey because people knew that they weren't going to, they didn't deserve a whole episode of the big picture. How about that? I don't think that's what they thought about it. Oh, wow. Okay. What about some honorable mentions? Okay. Do you own part three? Yeah. I mean, no doubt. No, I'm not much to say. Everything I've seen. I've loved. Yeah. The opening that we saw, Dynamite. I'm a fan. You want to trade or you want to? Yeah. I'm excited about a couple of fall movies, The debut, which I feel pretty confident is going to be a tell your ride just based on all the delinations around it with other fall film

53:31festivals. And that's the Jesse Eisenbergs new film. It's also a musical that is also about the staging of a musical at a local community theater about a woman who is attempting to, I guess, break into the world of musical theater acting in a later stage in her life played by Julianne Moore and the cantankeris director of this community theater played by Paul Giamatti. A lot of my favorites come in a circle, a 24 movie. And so I'm pumped about that. I'm also pumped about Misty Green, which is another a 24 movie that is Chris Rocks. Next film is a director. Yeah. Though I don't know if he's in the film, but it's a movie about a struggling actress who like had her moment in the sun and maybe it didn't to all totally come together for her. She's played by Rosalind Elazar, who's an actress I'm not super familiar with, though, has some bigger credits. But the supporting cast is great. Adam Driver, Daniel Kaluia, Anna Kendrick, Tofer Grace. Another movie that I just don't really know anything about other than the trailer. It's playing a tiff, not any of the festivals that we're going to.

54:34But I am intrigued by that one. What's another one for you? The He-Mith exclamation point. I'm excited. I would be more excited where it playing Edmannis, the fact that it's in New York instead and the trailer without dialogue. Just, you know, I'm protecting my heart on that one. You want to hear Tony Gilroy's words? I do. That's why we go to the movies. Yeah. Pedro Pascal, Olivia Wilde, Will Arnett, who am I forgetting? I don't know. Yeah. He plays a cellist in a, I guess, with a complicated professional career who plays, at least we know on film scores and one of the- Ava Victor. Oh, Ava Victor. Love Ava Victor. Who plays on film scores and we know that Gilroy, yes, signed up nine different composers to write music that is then implemented into the story of the movie.

55:37It's very cool. Yeah. I had artificial on my list as well. We share in the next movie, which is other mommy. That's right. You know, show it to me. I guess. Jessica, this is the jump scare trailer of the year for many people who saw the Odyssey. This is this brand before the Odyssey for many, many people. Yes, I did. I got angry text messages from friends of mine who went to see the Odyssey and then were terrified by this. To which I said, oh, I thought it was funny, which I think just shows real gross on the part of Amanda Dobbins. I couldn't agree more. I'm very happy to hear that you're in that state. Jessica Chastain plays a mommy and then there's another mommy that may be some sort of phantasmagorical representation of a demon that takes on the form of a child's mother. Yeah. You know, the memes write themselves. Sure. We've all been there, you know? The thumbnail for the other mommy episode should just be you and like a slightly paled version of you. Don't put me in it. Right. Would you say so? That sounds good. Okay.

56:38You know what else I'm looking forward to? Tell me. Street Fighter. It was the best of the video game presentations that we saw in my at CinemaCons. It might be really stupid, but I don't care. This is the one where I'm going to like, I'm going to give myself a break. I think also there is something about like being what you are and being the best version of what you are. Yes. So if it's a very stupid adaptation of a video game, but like is well done, stupid, that's okay. Yeah. I really had my heart broken by Mortal Kombat 2, which I had been told would be like the realization of what you truly wanted from a Mortal Kombat movie and it wasn't. Yeah. And what I want from this movie is just like a series of big fights, just like recreate the sensation of being in a match while playing the game. Okay. And based on what I saw, also my Noah Centineo stock going going way up. Oh, I, you're holding it. Well, he's in Union County, the will pull to move. He plays his brother in that movie. He gives a great performance, very small part, but great performance. He was in warfare, really good in warfare.

57:38And he's playing Ken. Ken, he's playing Ken in this movie who is one of the key street fighter characters, but not crossover from the Barbie universe, not that Ken. Okay. Though I would imagine he's inspired by that Ken, because in the game he has blonde hair and has kind of chiseled and his job is beach. That's kind of his energy, honestly. So I'm looking forward to that. And then also my job for the month of August. For a couple of weeks. I came back and then possible love, which you're about to see as well, I think. I sure am. And you have tickets to that as well. I do. Yeah. Which is Lee Chong Dong's new films, first movie since burning, which is like eight years ago now. That Netflix has that is hotly tipped for a very big award season run. And it seems like it's one of the only non-can foreign language films, international features that is really running hard in that race. Yeah. Okay. And then in the movies we've already seen and recommend right after this. This episode is presented by State Farm.

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59:43And is a wonderful movie from a filmmaker we like very much starring one of the generation's great actors in Adam Driver and like the best Miles Teller performance in years. A couple just absolutely electric set pieces. You know, it is, it's a very James Gray movie. Yes. And I mean that as a positive. So we both, we were at the premiere, we loved it. Excited for more people to see it. Yeah, I really liked it a lot too. It's, it's interesting I did this conversation with James for the Little Oak Desa Criterion Collection Disc. And in that conversation, you know, that film and this film and the yards and we on the night all have this very kind of loose formulation of two brothers who kind of find themselves entrenched in a world of crime in some way. And loss of trust and family dynamics and what it means to be in a family in New York in the 1970s, 80s and 90s and huge, the kind of looming influence of Coppola and Scorsese

1:00:46on these movies and a lot of other filmmakers as well. And what he said, I would encourage people to seek it out, especially at the end of that conversation about his own personal experiences and why he keeps kind of writing through this dynamic. I'd never heard him say before, I've talked to him so many times about this kind of thing. And he never really enunciated it in quite that way. And so it actually deepened my appreciation for this movie more after we saw it. You also went as soon as the lights went, you know, started in paper tiger, you turned to me and you were like, this is just, this is my family. This is where we grew up, you know. Yeah, I mean, it was like grandmother's home, you know, like my family's from a story. My dad was a cop. There's a cop. There's a lot of like, you know, cross pollinating personal experiences. I wouldn't say that's like the reason that I like it, but I will say that he nailed that stuff, which is not surprising because he's so good at period. That's a great one. My mind is, my first one is the only living pick pocket in New York, which I really, really liked. That is written and directed by Noose Ginn, who people will mostly know as an actor.

1:01:47He's in sort of like Ryan Johnson's company of actors. He always plays kind of a funny side character in every all of Ryan's movies. And I know that they're friends. And he directed a couple movies prior to this, but this is totally different than anything else he's done. It's also in New York movie. It's also a movie about the world of crime. John Turturo plays a aging analog pick pocket in a contemporary New York world trying to continue to survive while caring for a wife who's become ill and is non-responsive and also just trying to kind of make ends meet. And it's a real relic kind of man out of time portrait of a guy who's kind of lost connection to most of the things around him. But it's got Steve Bouchemmie, it's got Jim Carlow Esposito. And it's just kind of like an old dog in New York movie. He really, really well told really tight like 85 minutes, perfect character study, huge platform for Turturo who's another one of those people who people are just like, how

1:02:47does this person not have an Oscar? I mean, you love him and everything. Sure, he was also very present throughout the next run this year. He certainly was. It would be quite a capper on the year. I mean, I don't know if there's a better podcast this year than the old man in the three episode with him in Landry Shammett about how they were like lost father and son. That's some of the great content of 2026. But I really, really liked this movie a lot. And I think it's probably about to hit the fall festival circuit. It premiered at Sundance. I didn't see it there. It wasn't part of the virtual screening program. But I dug this a lot. And I think people will like it to Sony Pictures Classics has it. And it'll be in the discussion for the next couple of months. Got it. What's next? Beward, the Palm Door winner, which is definitely going to be in the award season, the Star Sebastian Stan and the reigning queen of can, right? Rianzva. And he is about a Romanian man, Mary, to a Norwegian woman. And they move back to Norway for family reasons. And then something happens in their family.

1:03:50And how their family and their community and the state handle all of these things are investigated and portrayed in sometimes excruciating detail. As you have said over and over again, a political football, people will be arguing about it. People are arguing about it as soon as we walked out of the premiering can. But I have found myself thinking about it often over and over as you negotiate small things either with a child or with an administration or seeing something on the internet. It is about parenting and family life and the decisions that you make as much as it is about Scandinavia, though it is really about Scandinavia. So I, sweet spot for you. I liked, I thought this was an upsetting and very successful movie and I'm sure the discourse will become unbearable at some point.

1:04:51But it can happen. See it early and then log off. Yeah, I think that's a good note. Yeah, but I think this will also be an Oscar conversation. I agree. It's interesting. I guess it's going to be an international film. I wonder if Norway will submit it because it's not necessarily always the kind of portrayal in Norway. Sure. But Christian Manjou, long considered a master, had already won the palm before, but this is kind of, well, it's certainly more of a mainstream kind of movie. I think it will be compared to anatomy of a fall a lot because it has a legal component and it's also very divisive and very careful about what it reveals about the incidents in the movie that are discussed in the movie. And there are people I really respect who are really sharp movie minds who hate this movie. I loved it. I thought it was probably my favorite movie I can, but I do like a movie that kind of makes you rip up your ideas and think about how you feel about the world and what, like what

1:05:55systems should be in place and why. And I agree with what you said that like being a parent and being somebody who's kind of like in this phase where you're sort of like engaging your family into a new era of like responsibility and also who is responsible for your children and how is fascinating to me. How do you engage with the with the wider world and how does it engage with you and your family? And suddenly you're responsible for another person who doesn't know any of that. Yeah. And how are you interpreting it? So I liked the provocation. I liked being poked by this movie, but I know that some people won't. It's a great, it's like, it will be a great discussion topic for us on the show. My number two is the history of concrete, which I also loved, which comes out in a month, which is John Wilson's feature film debut. He had a TV show How To With John Wilson for a couple of years on HBO. And this is a movie that is what it says it is. It is literally the history of concrete, the material, the building material, which is some of the oldest stuff in the world. And that sounds boring.

1:06:56And it isn't boring because it's John Wilson. It's John Wilson. So John Wilson, who sort of narrates his work and has this exploratory verite kind of unusually and humorously edited film documentary filmmaking style. This movie goes to more emotional places than I ever could have imagined. And like a cohort of creative people in this generation that is like Tim Robinson and Conor O'Malley and Nathan Fielder and maybe the Safty brothers are in there. And there's like this kind of loose collective of comedy people who are very insightful about the way that the world is really working right under the surface. And this is just really good. We're like really entertaining and really good. And John will come on the show later. This is a fault to talk about it. I just want to get it on people's radar because it's a smaller film than also premiered at Sundance. Okay, what's your number one? Club Kid, which is probably my favorite film that I saw at Cannes and is slated for a

1:07:57November release by A24. This is written and directed by Jordan Firstman. And it's really coming of age movie about a club kid, an aging club kid who through a series of unfortunate events acquires a son or has a son and then acquires a son learns that he has a son and his son comes into his life. It's sort of baby boom, but with a lot of drugs and no sam shepherd though. The Diego Calva character does just borrow a bit of sam's energy. Yeah, this is a fun, warm, I guess provocative in the sense that there is sex and club culture and drugs references throughout, but really like a pretty traditional and beautiful movie that I was just one over immediately. And I saw it in a later screening at Cannes with a bunch of young French people as best

1:09:00I could tell. Kind of like an adjunct screening where I think young people in the area show up and just hope to be able to get in and see a movie and except for the Balhazard joke, everything landed with them as well, which I think which was a good sign for something that is emotional and comedy and specific in that it is yet another great New York movie, but also hoping to be universal and it does seem like it worked. Yeah, I hadn't seen Tony when I first saw this, but they're kind of an interesting match. There's something about using a fructive outsider's perspective and putting them into what ultimately is a kind of warm 90s style movie. It has a little club kid has a little bit of Barry Levinson, a little bit of that traditional or petty martial or something where there's a real sweetness at the core of it, but it's not saccharine. To me, it's like is Kramer versus Kramer, but the new version.

1:10:01Yeah, it's a little funnier than that movie for sure, but I know what you mean. It's an interesting one. I hope people go out to see that movie. I do do. My number one is all of a sudden, which is a Rice Gha Hamaguchi's new film, which we talked about in our episode as well, which is a three and a half hour epic about a woman played by Virginia Fira working in an elder care facility, effectively managing an elder care facility. You might think that that sounds boring, but it is one of the most sophisticated, deep feeling movies of the year. It's not the most commercial thing in the universe. It's going to be challenging to get people to watch this movie, but I think you're really rewards your attention and your care. The Tau Akamoto is also fantastic in this movie. Hamaguchi is obsessed with how people work. This is a movie about how people work and what you need to get your head out of the sand sometimes, and sometimes having your head in the sand can be helpful.

1:11:04I'm low to spoil too much more of it, but this is also coming out on Thanksgiving. You think it will be a big box office hit? Yeah, and then everyone will buy their own whiteboard. The whiteboard of Thanksgiving dinner, we should be playing that lecture for everybody. I think that the world could be healed by playing the whiteboard lecture before everything saving dinner in America. I'll leave that to you. I'm going to go on my own little tour and just re-perform it for people, and then you'll perform songs from the day, though. I think I could hack it in musical theater. I think I have the presence. You have never been in a musical. Show us something now. No. Maybe maybe we'll be. What would your audition song be? Would it be? Sanhaim, would it be? Well, I love that moment in Lady Bird when she sings, everybody says don't, which I think is such a... And Harry Gordini, who I think originated that.

1:12:04That's my tamber. That's my tone. That's not Sertra Ronan's tone, so it's very funny that she sang that song. I don't know what would be my audition song. I just had a flashback, too. I visited my best friend Stephanie over vacation. This was my trip. And she's putting one of her children to bed, and I just heard the very clear tones of on my own, friendly Ms. Raleigh across the room. She comes out in the... So I have some questions, and she's like, yes, that's one child's bedtime song. None of the other children want it, but one child really wants... Yeah. She really gave it her all. Incredible. You know, I saw some live theater this weekend. I sat her eight nights. Really? Yeah, I went to a small play that was directed by Eileen and I, our friend Kate, who's a playwright. Oh, wow, that's so cool. Yeah, it was called... Congratulations, Kate. I'm so happy to stand. Yeah, tomorrow again at a theater in North Hollywood. Two amazing performances at the middle of it. It was a great time. I missed the theater. This is the only thing about New York that I'm like, I just wish I had this, because I would just be there every weekend.

1:13:06It's one of my favorite things to do. LA, there's plenty of live theater, not as much, not often as good. Okay, let's talk about the September Oscars. This is the thing I made up this weekend. Okay. This is five nominations that you guarantee from films that have already been released. Yeah. And I've also asked you for one wild prediction. Now, this would be harder in 2015 or 2005, but this thing is happening now. Where you get a lot of early movies. And it's not just one. It's like three or four, or sometimes even five movies that like might be... Right. Oscar movies. You did fill this out first and you chose five different movies. I did. So, I also tried to do that. Which... Did you pull it off? I did, but I was running... Nice. And we have some overlap in the movies, but I did find myself sort of running out of guaranteed variables, right? Because the Odyssey is guaranteed up and down the board. And there are several movies that are represented multiple times here, but I got there.

1:14:09I got to five. Some of these are incredibly obvious. Some of them are slightly risky, but I feel confident about mine. Okay. I'll start. Mine is obviously the best picture of the Odyssey. Sure. It will be nominated. If you had to say right now, is it going to win? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. We don't know anything about that. Right. But especially once you think, consider preferential balloting. I don't know what's going to come and take all of its votes. I don't know. Yeah, nothing else is as unanimous. It would have seen something smaller perhaps. I mean, I did on my travels start meeting civilians family members, friends were like, yeah, didn't really like it that much. Sure. Didn't care about it. So we'll be in that phase, but I think they've cleverly timed it. So that'll be September through November and then come December. We'll reclaim it. Emily Wilson's working on a new translation. So she's busy. Did you see this? Of the Odyssey? Yes. She's redoing her translation. She's removing some of this. Did you read in the introduction? She set like a very specific length to the to the poem and it's some other constraints

1:15:15to replicate like with the original home. And so then she did the Iliad without those constraints. And so now she's going to redo the Odyssey without those constraints or because she saw an opportunity and and is seizing it. Listen, they don't pay academics that much. So I'm not going to make us not come. I'm not I'm not going to say anything. And one of my nominations here is in direct response to Emily Wilson, who I still think is one of the world's great ship posters. Okay. What's your first one? Best supporting actor Edward Norton the invite. I think this is going to happen. I do. The Academy loves Edward Norton. Yeah. Okay. He was don't forget that he was lightly implicated in the affair of who was the woman that had the surprise nomination because Gweneth Paltrow had a party for her. The star to Leslie. Yes. Andrea Rizbro. Thank you. Yeah. But he was also a part of that. He's connected in the Academy. He's beloved. He's an amazing performance. I think the invite is going to be very present.

1:16:18Fascinating group of people here. Yeah. We're in the long list for this race. I do think you're right. Thank you. There's two really interesting contenders in that category. Go ahead. Coleman, Domingo and Michael. Ah. Okay. We'll come back to that. Yeah. And Jeremy's strong in the social reckoning. Yes. There's a couple of obvious ones right there's like GM Adi. Everybody loves GM Adi. He's never gone over the hump. He didn't win for the holdovers. He'll run hard in that race. Sam Rockwell and Wild Horse Nine. He's won in this category. He's returning to reunite with the filmmaker for which he won. He did. Yes. I love the dancing. He's very charming. Guy Pierce and Inc. Another guy who has been nominated many times, but is not won or has nominated this a couple times. Norton, yeah. I mean, he's due in my opinion. I would say well overdue. Thousand percent. Okay. That's a good one. My number four is easy, straightforward. Spider-Man brand new day is getting at least one nomination for best visual effects. Okay. And some of the best stuff in this movie

1:17:20is the swinging through the city. Yeah. He looks great. The way that they did it in this where it's sort of like more of a catching release strategy instead of like the clean line soaring. Yeah. Love the choice. Thought it looked beautiful. I felt more like how I imagined Spider-Man would move through Manhattan. How much time do you spend imagining? Six to eight hours a week? Six to eight hours a week. Would you want to be Spider-Man? Is that of all the superheroes? Is that who you'd pick? Yes. Okay. What do you want to be? Well, I haven't done that much research. I guess Batman, you know. I thought you were Squirrel girl. That was something that you assigned to me. That was not. Van, Van, Van, Van, Van assign that to you. Yeah, and he wants to be third chair. I don't know about that. Okay. What's your, what's your next fix? Speaking of Emily Wilson, best score, Ludwig Gorenson for the Odyssey. I agree with you. I like the drums. Could it win? Yeah. That was me dropping. Would that be three or four? So that's sinners and Oppenheimer.

1:18:24And did he win for Black Panther? He did. Sick. Good for him. Four? Who's got four? Who's got four? Well, how many does John Williams have? He has like 18? He has less than that. I guess he's gonna, maybe he has 18 nominations. Well, he has like 50 nominations, but how many wins does he have? John Williams. One, two, three, four. He's got four wins. Only four? Wait, no, I'm looking at the wrong thing. That's gonna set it. Am I looking at the wrong thing? No, I'm not. So he has a win for best score for Fiddler and the Roof. Okay. He won for Joss. Okay. He won for Star Wars. He won for ET, perhaps you've heard of them. That's four. He won for Schindler's list. He won for Schindler's list. Five. He has five wins. Well. Isn't Ludwig Gorenson like 40? Yeah, but this is also, how old was John Williams in 1894, which is the last time he won? Very good question. Because they kind of, they're just like, wow, you're one of the greats. And now we don't have to give you anymore, which I think is rude. John Williams was 62 in 1994.

1:19:26So Ludwig, you know, he's ahead of the curve here, if he wins. Yeah. Well, he attached himself to Ryan Kugler and Christopher Nolan. That was smart. And it attached himself to that. And they collaborated. They worked together. Well, you're very talented. And I think, I like this, you know, that there was... This nomination is for sure happening. I like the challenge of this, which was that you can't use any modern instruments. You can only use instruments that were available in the time Bronze Age. That was just the cool prompt that Nolan gave him. And just kind of an interesting cinematic idea. And I like that he responded to it. And I enjoyed learning about the various instruments that were played on the score. So it's cool. Number three, best in a photography, Greg Fraser for Project Hill Mary. Project Hill Mary, I'm curious to see how it nets out. It seems like there's some a little bit of doubt now. Maybe that we're like, it's been six months since it came out. Is that like Gosling Blowback? Because he's just... From Batman? From me, but in general, I don't think from the Academy. I think it's more like just how big a player is it going to be. Is Gosling really contending for actor?

1:20:27Oh, yeah, much. You know, is it definitely like our Lord Miller contending for director? Like three months ago, I think you would have said they were very clearly contending because it's a very conceived movie. You know, like the decision to shoot everything practically the way that they did. And it's totally their perspective and sort of point of view as filmmakers. Like if it really feels like them. And so, but now that we're getting into the moment where it's like we just listed 20 movies if people got to go see before the fall, like Will and have the same register. I'll do that. I do have it in best picture because I think with 10 nominations, I think that there will be room for it. I don't have Lord and Miller in best director. Because that's not a numbers, you know, that doesn't make sense numbers wise, but also I director always gets so crowded. And the more international the academy becomes the more international directors that are included. So I don't, I don't know, I could probably like six. Yeah, that's, I mean, you know, you're in the sound.

1:21:27You're gonna get visual effects. How many did cinematography? I guess you could get up to 11. How many did Furrier Road get? Score is very good. Furrier Road, I think got like 10 or 11. So it could be one of those. Yeah, I guess what the other thing that I'm thinking about is some of it depends on what shakes out with Dune Part Three and how many big ticket movies the category can withstand. Like last year, we had centers, we had F1. Mm-hmm. I was really it for really big movies. Like one battle and Frankenstein are kind of on another tier there. Yeah. And so the idea of Project Tell Meary and the Odyssey and Dune Part Three all getting in is really interesting. It's very rare for a number of event films to get in all in the same year. So maybe that's where some of the doubt is coming from. But I like that you're putting it out there. So that's one of your predictions. So another prediction for me, best original song towards story five Taylor Swift. I knew it. I knew you. I think you should sing this for us now. I don't know the words. I still have never heard of it. I'm on the record.

1:22:28I like it. Yeah, it's just an incredible. I think this was like one week before she got me read at Madison Square Garden that you were like, now I'm at on Taylor Swift. I didn't say that. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I enjoyed the song and I love the software updates and tablets. Nope. And so I need a new tablet. You do. I haven't gotten an iPad in like 10 years. It's probably going to new one. Yeah. We are though. We resurrected like a hand me down a tiny one from one of the grandparents. Mm-hmm. That's so old that you can only you can't use any of the new apps, but you can use Apple TV. So that we just have to. Okay. So that gives you a feedback about how to pay your travels and an iPad in the wake after cycle of loss wrong. So it takes you to do this study, so I don't know. So I don't need to period history. I just it's still very exciting. And I just I want to vote and talk to different боes as I have to see how urd all the time to get back trying my best songs and signings now.

1:23:28All right. I Evans video. Yeah. Yeah. You can use it. Good buddy. How do you like it? Well, I like it. It does. King's 50 dumb. Congratulations. Okay. What's your? Oh, okay, best actress. And you never ready obsession. Nice. Yeah. Do you think it's gonna happen? I do. Okay. I think it's a good story. I don't know whether obsession is gonna happen in Best Picture. But everybody likes a breakout star. Everybody likes the woman in a horror movie who goes for it. Everybody, Academy voters, like Anon Jhanu still. And this is a way to give obsession. It's due, which you kind of have to. It's the movie story of the year in a lot of ways. I think this will be its only nomination. I don't know about only, but I think that I'm not sure about Best Picture, but I'm pretty sure that, you know, and it's the Amy Madigan and Weapons playbook. So I think it'll happen. I think so too. I'm not totally sure. Well, you don't have to have fun. Maybe competing against her

1:24:35will be my last pick, which is Olivia Wilde for Best Actress in the invite. Yeah. Which feels maybe not locked in stone, but I feel like she's having such a strong year and has more to come with behemoth. And they're gonna find a way to honor her. And I don't know if she's gonna be able to get into director. Correct. Yeah. So this would be a way to acknowledge how great she is in that movie. That would be exciting. Yeah. She's good. I really like that movie. I do think it'll be in Best Picture, but the invite. Yeah. I hope so. That would be cool. Wild prediction time. Yeah. Best Actress Emily Blunt, disclosure day. I would want for it to happen. Well, you said wild prediction. Also, she is, she's so liked. Mm-hmm. She's great at campaigning for Oscars. She and just and for movies. So I believe she'll get back on the trail. If they nominated her for Oppenheimer, come on. I understand that there was like a big train, but she had nothing to do in that. She's wonderful in this film. Yeah. I feel like the mood is not super strong when disclosure day, but I like the prediction. I would agree with that. But again, it's August. We have a lot of time.

1:25:37The Oscars are not until March 10th, 14th. 15th. 15th. Great. The hides of March. What a stupid decision. Whatever. So that's 15. I think it's 50s. It's six months away. More than six months away. March 14th. Sorry. Okay. Well, you know, we go up and down with these things. We get tired of people. We bring people back. Just think about it. My wild prediction isn't Michael could get in a Best Picture. Yeah. This is this is the F1 argument. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a lot of people have seen this movie. It's made of billion dollars. They love it. Yeah. And we didn't. But it's a huge industry success. Michael Jackson, a more complicated figure than some other music biopics figures that we've seen in recent times. But that particular part of his history is completely elided in the movie. Yeah. And it is a great spectacle with great music. And Jafar Jackson,

1:26:39people really like his performance. And so I could be wrong. A lot of this is determined by the movies that we're going to see from this episode. But I feel like it could go down. I think it's totally possible. I, you know, I've been listening to a lot of the music of Michael Jackson since I saw this movie. So I guess its purpose was served. And we'll continue to be served. It's not, it's not a movie. Yeah. I mean, it was released. Sure. It was released. And it made a large sum of money. I'm interested to see what what is increasingly a more, I don't know, progressive academy. But it's certainly a more diverse academy, more international academy. And one that is willing to honor, you know, us slightly more more thoughtful and complex version of world cinema. Right. Does with a movie like this. How does this fit in with the project, Hilmarie and Odyssey and June three. But I do think there's room for four blockbusters.

1:27:42I, I don't, but who knows. Yeah. I mean, who also who knows what happens with June part three? Okay. One assumes that we're looking at not the Lord of the Rings narrative, but at least the like, we got to acknowledge this film's greatness. But I don't know. We'll see. Amanda, did you share your number one prediction? Oh, no, I didn't. Sure. Diane Warren's got another song everybody. Diane Warren has written the title for by any means the film starring Mark Wahlberg and Yaya Abdul-Mateen. The second. At listen, she's, she's, she's trying. She's going to do her best. She's well connected in a nonsense category. So could have could definitely happen. Yeah, could definitely. She released it. You know, she like did her single. She's on the campaign once again. So can she win? No, I don't think she's going to win for this one. But I think she said nomination, not wins. So I played to the letter of law. You did it right. That's it. Any other closing thoughts

1:28:45before you get on a plane? I'm excited. Venetia. I look forward to telling you that as well. That pretty much does it. Thanks to our producer, Jack Sanders for his work on today's episode. Thanks to Lucas Kavanaugh for his production support. Later this week, Chris Ryan and I are discussing onslaught and building the black and chrome action pack. We'll explain what that means when we get there. You sort of explained it at the end of last week's podcast. And I wasn't listening. Okay, but I will listen to this. Have a great trip. Thanks. Bye.