Xavier Becerra sits down with Ashley Zavala

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3:08And he refused to answer. He said he was going to answer and then he didn't answer. But first, let's see what's going on in the state of California. Here is Ashley Zavala on California politics 360 at airs on KCRA 3 in Sacramento. It also airs on Fox 11 in Los Angeles and KTVU Fox 2 in the Bay. Javier Bakaria said I thank you so much for making time for us. Ashley, thank you. This is a hard job at a really hard time. Why do you want to be California governor now? Yes, seriously, why? Who would want this job at this point? Because it's a hard job and you need someone who's gone through these tough times and it knows what it's like to have to balance a big budget. Someone who knows what it's like to deal with emergencies, crises, and knows how to get out of them. Someone who knows how to fight. Just starting off with all the cliches. And it sounds like he's falling asleep as he's answering the question, doesn't it?

4:08He is a very low energy candidate. Someone who knows how to fight and someone who knows how to win. I'm getting to do what my parents didn't have a chance to do. And that is live a life based on your dream. And I'm getting to do it with people who also want to see California thrive. So why not? California, though, is facing multi-year money problems. If whoever the next governor is is really going to have to deal with that, according to our state's legislative analyst budget experts. Gavin is leaving you with a big all hole in the budget. And by the way, if California is in the hole that it's in, why didn't he do something about it? He was an assemblyman. He was a congressman from California. He was the attorney general from California. He was the secretary of health and human services. Why, at any point in the past, did he not do something about all of these perennial problems?

5:12In really every side of the aisle at this point, the options that have been laid out are to either cut spending, cut stick programs, or race taxes, which option do you see yourself choosing? Both. I'll have the combo platter, please. You got to do a little bit of both. I had to do that when I was secretary at HHS in the midst of the worst pandemic. Wait, is that the right acronym? Because I thought you had a different job. For secretary of health and education, I nominated Javier Bakaria. Wasn't his name wasn't the job. Good job, Grandpa Joe. And that was like the first month of the administration. In the midst of the worst pandemic any of us had ever seen, I had to save lives, manage a budget. Oh boy. He is really putting himself on the cross every time he talks about COVID, every single time.

6:14And do it without making cuts to the most essential programs. We were able to do that. We got the economy and the country out of COVID. It took a lot of work. But you have to do it with a mix of measures. And I think in the case of California, we'll need new revenue. And there are people who aren't paying their fair share. Never heard that before. By the way, within the Biden administration, and we know what a disaster that was across the board. When you listen to the Biden people, you read the books about the election, about the Biden administration. He is universally regarded within that circle as being the biggest bomb of all of the department heads. Who have to pay? Pelosi tried to warn him. She did. Who have to pay a little bit more at the same time? We have to take a look at programs. As I had a look at programs when I was at HHS. And we had to make decisions on where to cut to make sure that we bounced our books.

7:15So you mentioned people needing to pay their fair share. So what does that look like? You're essentially saying you'd raise taxes on the wealthy in the state? For the most part. Yeah, I think of it this way. I'm not sure what bracket you're in, what tax bracket. All I know is that there are people who are paying doctors, nurses, teachers, firefighters, police officers. Folks who you think of in the middle. If you're making way more money than any of those professionals and you're paying at a tax rate lower than them, you're not paying your fair share. So. Wait, did he just group doctors and with teachers? Yeah, that's a weird one. Okay, I have doctors in my family. They all do well. I guess it depends what your specialty is. But for the most part, they're not standing on the street corner with a tin cup. The doctors in Beverly Hills performing the world's best button plants.

8:18They're doing okay. So I think it'll be pretty quick and pretty easy to calculate if you're going to have to pay a little bit more. Because if you're paying less in taxes and make your billionaire and you're paying less than that teacher in your effective tax rate, you're likely going to have to pay more. How exactly would that happen under Governor Beside? If anyone wants to get specifics, it's Zavala. And if anyone is devoid of any specifics, it's Basera. He really doesn't know much about this, does he? No. And this is the new guy that's going to save the party from Tom Steyer. How exactly would that happen under okay? By the way, pause the tape here for a second. That made no sense to me. So I just randomly looked up on Twitter. What does Javier Basera's wife do? Javier Basera's wife is Dr. Carolina Reyes, a Harvard trained physician and

9:18peri-nateologist. She specializes in high risk pregnancies and practices at the University of California Davis. That's why he grouped in doctors with teachers because that's what the wife does. How exactly would that happen under Governor Beside? So we would try to have a policy on revenue that is predictable and consistent. That's one thing I've learned that when I was on the Ways and Means Committee in the Congress. So Ways and Means Committee is the tax writing committee. So I did tax... One thing I'm learning is this guy's been around for way too long. Oh, he's been in elected office since hector was a pop. Ways and Means Committee is the tax writing committee. So I did tax policy for about 20 years. What you need to do is give people predictability. You want people to pay their taxes. They got to know more or less what they're going to owe at the end of the year. You want a business to be able to invest in your state. They got to know what they're facing in terms of taxes and regulations.

10:19Give them predictability. And so I would make sure that we are... Developed... You have to think about this one? Okay, as I sit here listening to him, I'm thinking to myself, he sounds about as old as Antonio Virogosa. And I just looked it up. He's 68 years old. And Virogosa's like 71. Yeah, they're about the same age the two of them. Nobody wants to retire, huh? Nope. Full government pension. Still can't retire. Developing a tax code that gives people predictability. That means if you know you're paying an effective tax rate lower than that teacher or firefighter. Or doctor. Especially ones that deliver high risk pregnancies. You should expect you're going to be paying more at the end of the year. But I mean, California's budget does rely heavily on the state's top earners. I mean, the top 1% account for like almost half of it.

11:19It's just it's always so jarring to me and Ashley does such a great job. But when the reporter knows more about the state than the person that's running to run it, what's going on here? Okay, if we elect this guy to be governor, that says more about this electorate than it does about him. He is running on the platform of Gavin Newsom did a bang up job on homelessness and deserves an A. And if you elect me, I'm going to raise your taxes. Let's check in with the average California voter. What do they think about that statement? No, I don't know enough to give you any good information, but good luck finding someone who does. And that's why we are where we are. The income tax at the state collects. Do you risk, I mean, I'm potentially driving them out of state and putting us in an even worse revenue situation than we could be? No, no, because think of it. Most of those doctors back on the doctors.

12:19Boy, he really has that on his top of his mind. Yeah. Doctor, that's a fake doctor lawyers. A lot of those professionals who are making 3, 4, 5, 100,000, 8, 900,000, a million dollars, I'm not looking to go after them because they already are paying a sizable tax to the state of California for their income. I'm talking about folks who don't have that wealth because of their income. They have it because of their investments. Okay, so he wants to jack up capital gains. Okay, so that means if you own a home in California and you sell your home, he's coming after you. Oh no. And investments in this country are taxed at lower rates than the effective tax rate of that firefighter and that teacher. And it's because so many billionaires have their wealth in those investments that they get off without paying a fair share of taxes. Do you realize by the way that if you count property,

13:23if you throw that into the mix, we're all quote unquote, millionaires and billionaires because even if you own a dumpy home in the San Fernando Valley, hey, that probably just got robbed, accurate. That home is worth over a million dollars. It's getting up there because that's just what happened to California real estate. Go to any part of a population center and look at any home, any single family home, they're all over a million dollars. So on paper, I'm not going after the doctors and the lawyers and the teachers and the firefighters. I'm just going after the people who pay capital gains taxes and are worth over a million dollars. Well, that's all of us, dummy to the state where they make their living, where they love to enjoy. And you know, most of the folks that I've encountered who are fairly wealthy don't mind paying their fair share

14:25and they're willing. So long as can you name some examples of anyone that you've talked to that said, please tax me more. Didn't Tom Steyer get asked that very question on the debate stage and he goes, me paying more in taxes is not the answer. He did say that. And they're willing. So long as they can understand why they're being just remember kids, there are worse options than this. And they're willing. So long as they can understand why they're being taxed. So long as it's predictable. Well, right now we're all getting taxed and we don't see where any of that money is going. So how's that working out? You know what's awful about this is if you go back and I'm not even talking about ancient history. If you go back to California politics in the 1990s, early 2000s, everything that he's just said in this interview would have been a line crossing event that would prevent him from being elected statewide. Saying that this level of homelessness will get to that later on where he defends Gavin Newsom and his policies on homelessness. He did that at the

15:30debate. He gave him an A. That would be disqualifying. Saying that one of the highest tax states in the union, what we need to raise more taxes because that's just what needs to happen. That would be a disqualifying event. And the fact that he goes on an interview like this and he says all of these nutty things and he's still regarded as the front runner shows you how far the state has moved from the 90s in the early 2000s when this guy would be an unelectable pariah. Everyone, everyone understands we pay a premium to live in in this great state of California. Go take a look at the price of the gas pump today. We're paying a premium mostly because Donald Trump. Now there's the first mention. Oh yeah. Okay. Here's the follow up question to that. Why is it still less expensive in Nevada and Arizona? They have the same president. Got us into this. A reckless foreign war, but I will tell you we like California. Was he trying to say reckless,

16:35but then said a reckless? Play that a good. Got us into this. A reckless foreign war, but I think you got to take a pill for that. I think so. Bob Dole has one that he recommends. I will tell you we like California. We want to stay in California, but it's got to be affordable. You mentioned but everything you just said was going to make things less affordable. Yeah. You just said you were going to jack taxes up capital gain specifically. And by the way, for a lot of people who are working here, they regard their California single family home as a second pension of swords where you sell that and you use that money to live on in retirement in Arizona. Exactly. And those are the people he wants to target. We're just getting started here. We are five minutes into this 35 minute gem of an interview. If you want to watch the entire thing, you can go to KCRA 3's YouTube page or I have it on my sub stack at Randy Wang radio dot sub stack dot com. It is

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19:47only get better to her at the Greek theater July 23rd tickets are on sale now at ticketmaster.com but right now caller number nine at one eight eight seven ninety five two two two gets a pair of tickets to the show tickets furnished by live nation. Good luck. Diling. Okay, let's go back to gubernatorial candidate. Javier Bakaria in a sit down interview with Ashley Zavala. We heard about his tax policy. What's up next, Ashley? You mentioned you'd also cut programs. Is there anything like immediately on the docket that you see that you'd want to cut right now? Yes, anything for the homeless. We'd have a balanced budget. I would take a real close look at these homeless programs. Hey, look at that. All right, we're getting warmer. We have not had accountability. I believe that every dollar that we invest in homelessness is going to be a very precious dollar. And I'd like to make sure that it leads to results. And results for most of us are when I look at those streets,

20:51I don't see people lying there in the morning having slept there. I want to see results. I want to have accountability. How many times has he said that word so far? Yeah, the fact that he's using the same hollow words as Gavin Newsom is a red flag. Accountability accountability accountability. I'm willing to invest in having assistance for those who are homeless, but we have to have results. And if you can't produce the results in that accountability, then you shouldn't get the money. So, because I mean, cities and counties might watch this right now and think, oh my gosh, are you talking about half the homelessness housing assistance prevention grant program? It's the main way the state provides dollars to these local governments. I mean, is that something that would be on the table for you to potentially cut? The counties want you to make it rain, Javier. Oh, and L.A. County wants to make sure that all of those homeless services groups, they're rolling in dough. I would certainly make sure that they are delivering results.

21:53And if, but what is results? Because if results is we pay a nonprofit to pass out meth pipes, and they pass out the meth pipes, technically that is results. Oh, and then they pat themselves on the back and give each other awards. And if they can't deliver results, I'll take that dollar to someone who is delivering results. And so, we have to make the best use of that dollar, because there are always programs that have to deal with something like homelessness. I only have so many of those dollars. If I have to make a decision, I'm going to put that $1 into that one organization that's delivering accountable results. Another expensive program right now, and we have yet to really see the effectiveness of this one is providing health care to undocumented people through the state's medical program. In fact, the first year that it was implemented, Gavin Newsom had to take out several loans from the state to keep it afloat. Oh, yeah, it was another promise he can't keep. Would you keep that in place as governor? Absolutely. Right now.

22:54I got an assist on that. Shang. Would you keep that in place as governor? Absolutely. Okay, so the state is broke. Let's make sure that everyone from Guatemala has health care. Right now, I mean, new adults can't sign up under changes that the governor and legislature had to make last year because of the financial situation with it. Is that would you look at trying to allow new adults to sign on? I understand what the thinking was. I think that's short-sighted. And it's everybody as soon as you step on California soil free health care. Gee, I wonder what that'll do to the illegal alien population. Not cost-effective. And Ashley, that one's an easy one. You've got a family. You've got a child. Your child's hurting. You don't have money. You don't have insurance. You're going to think of everything you can from going to get the aspirin to trying the massage in the Kudandera from a Mexican home.

23:59What does a Kudandera? I don't even want to look it up. I didn't get to that lesson yet on Duolingo. I wonder if that's a witch doctor. Whatever you can, it's not going to cost you a arm and a leg. But if your child's still hurting, at some point, you're going to the hospital. And if you don't have insurance and if you're not a wealthy person, that bill will drive you out of your house. Whatever nest egg you had has just gone. So if you were looking to use that to buy a house in the future or to get help pay for your kids tuition in college, gone. This is a great filibuster and to not answering, how are we going to afford it? Okay, I just looked it up. A Kudandera, C-U-R-A-N-D-E-R, is a female Latin American folk healer who uses a holistic approach, combining herbal medicine, spiritualism, rituals, and indigenous traditions to treat physical, emotional, and spiritual illness. So it isn't a witch doctor, 100%.

25:06But you're going to take your child to that hospital. Why should we wait till you have to take your child to the hospital? Which means you're probably entering through the emergency room. The most expensive door to walk through in health care is the ER door. And it's okay. We always sold to us that, well, we need this because then the emergency rooms won't be packed and the emergency rooms are still packed. So the whole point of Obamacare was that people would have health insurance so they can go to a primary care physician to deal with a lot of their problems and they wouldn't clog up the emergency room. I think I told you this. Friend of mine had 104 degree fever. Went to Eisenhower Hospital in Rancho Maraj, that is a town of 17,000 people. It is almost entirely white. It is almost entirely elderly. There are very few people under the age of 70 who live in that city. You're talking about a retirement community essentially with a hospital. He was the only one there who spoke English.

26:16The only person in Rancho Maraj in the ER who spoke English. What do you think the odds are that the people who were in that ER are not residents of Rancho Maraj? I would say the odds are pretty high. And I would say that many of them are probably not here legally too. That was the whole point of Obamacare to fix that and it didn't and now he wants to spend more money on the same issue which I guarantee you won't result in empty ERs. Why should we wait because you didn't have insurance that you let the situation get so bad that now you have no choice but to save your child you go to the hospital through the emergency room. I'm saying no, no. You're going to have... By the way, even just to get down to the weeds of this, what he's talking about is a bunch of big S because kids are already covered. Kids were already covered. Right. And the point isn't that they should be denied health care treatment. The point is

27:17this government isn't the one that's supposed to be paying for it. You're going to have access to that pediatrician, that family doc, that OBGYN, now early upfront because it cost me so much less to do it upfront than wait till it gets really expensive at the back end. So tell me someone, you don't have insurance, condemns them to have to use the back end the most expensive. How is it that someone who is the secretary of health and human services doesn't understand that about children? Look, you don't get these jobs because you're smart. We don't even have kids and we know. The back end the most expensive care. Can you stop saying the back end? Don't want to get tempted here and cut something into a drop that would be inappropriate. The back end, the most expensive care. I'm not going there. And I tell you this from my own experience being secretary of HHS, from defending the Affordable Care Act as AG all the way to the Supreme Court.

28:18But I'll tell you where I learned it most. From two great Americans, my mom, who said, Micho has mejor prevenit, guerrero mediat, it is always better to prevent than to try to remediate. I don't think she said that. I don't think so either. I think he made that up. And Frederick Douglass was said at about 160 years. It's like the whole story about how scrub it. Scrub it. Was his mom telling him to brush his teeth, but really it's from some commercial in the 50s. He made that up too. And Frederick Douglass was said at about 160 years ago. It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. We wait till they go to the emergency room to repair broken men and women. If we had built them strong and healthy at the beginning, we'd be spending a lot less money. I'm not going to wait till they're broken and we spend a ton of money. I'm going to build them strong and smart from the beginning. And that means giving them access to healthcare. I think a lot of people who supported this program see it as a righteous issue as you have laid out. I think the question is though, is that this program became a lot more expensive than state officials braced for? I mean, so if that I mean in that you can preamble all

29:24you want. Zavala is going to get you back on track. Oh yeah. By the way, he has total recall for everything that never happened. I mean, so if that I mean in that vein, it'll cost maybe a lot more. I mean, or is it just a matter of managing the state's budget better than it had been? Well, who's paying? If that family is not on medical, when they do use the health services at the hospital, who's paying? Not medical. So the state may not be paying, but you're putting that now on the county. Or you're putting it on the back of that doctor or that clinic or that hospital that doesn't get paid. And we already know how much taxes that doctor's paying. And at some point they say, I can only do businesses way so long before I have to close my doors. I don't want clinics, doctors and hospitals to close their door. Go to rural California. They're already closing hospitals. We can't afford that. And I'm not going to let it happen. Because as much as I think it's morally right, healthcare should be a right, not a privilege.

30:28Economically, it is not smart to wait for them to use the most expensive care, walking in through an emergency room. Yeah, but it's not economically working to do what you're probing because we can't afford it. No, no, and we've proven that time and time again. It is economically smarter to give people access early, so they maintain their health. We, our system in healthcare, unfortunately, and I kept saying this when I was secretary at HHS, our healthcare system is based. He likes to name drop the job. He's had a lot over and over and over again. Our healthcare system is based on treating illness. Our system of health should be based on promoting wellness. So we avoid the expensive care. That's why the US, California, we have the most expensive healthcare in the world, bar none, and we still leave people without insurance. Who put this guy in charge of that department? A senile old man did.

31:30I thought that name would look very diverse. This is supposed to be in theory his strongest issue. Is it not? Yes. And he constantly says he's running to be the healthcare governor. And he reminds us every 10 seconds that he ran the Department of Health and Human Services, even though Grumpy Joe's unaware of it. Well, it was a different department for secretary of health and education. So I nominated Javier Bakaria. So there's a lot more to this interview. If we have time later in the show, we might even get to the whole Dana Williamson scandal, because he gets asked a whole lot of questions about that. But Johnny, when we come back, it's time for the grading, greeting manure. Hey, I'm Chris Fanfleet. Go behind the scenes and beyond the headlines with the biggest names in pro wrestling and beyond. You could pop up in WWE tomorrow. Would Sereya be there or would Page be there? Page 100 is there. So when you're setting up Logan Paul to frog splash you through

32:35the announce table, it's going through your mind. This should make every headline in the world in excess, right? New jelly roll. We knew we had that kind of a moment mindset, motivation, and what it takes to succeed. Insight with Chris Fanfleet. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Well, we've learned so much. Listening to this interview of Javier Bakaria with Ashley Zavala, for example, according to the former secretary of health and human services, if your child has an ear ache, what you need to do is bring in a witch doctor to sacrifice a virgin. Because in lesson until you push AC green into the rocks, that kid's ear isn't getting better. We're going to skip to the end of the interview. If we have time, we'll go back to some more of this because all of it's delicious. All 35 minutes of this interview are, it's the best interview of all the governor interviews Zavala has done because he doesn't have a good answer for anything. But let's skip to what is now being called the Zavala question.

33:39How would you grade the guy you're trying to replace? Speaking of getting it done, what grade would you give Governor Gavin Newsom for his last two terms as governor? Oh. So it feels like he just had a lump in his throat. Well, he's thinking, okay, what can I say that's not the truth? So you're talking to someone who's had a balance. By the way, you know this question is coming. No, but it's like Kamala on the view. You should know the question is coming. But sometimes they don't do the fundamentals. So you're talking to someone who's had a balance of budget bigger than the budget that Governor Newsom had a balance. You're talking to someone who had to deal with the crisis bigger than perhaps any crisis that the governor of California had to deal with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Al Bundy had four touchdowns in a single game too. We had to save lives across the country with COVID. You're talking to someone who took on

34:43a rogue menacing federal government the way Governor Newsom has had to do that. I did that when I was a G you are going to grade him. Are you going to grade him? I am going to grade him. Okay, okay, but I'm trying to put it in context. Got it. So it isn't he's trying to run out the clock, Ashley. You can't you can't run out the clock in a pre-recorded interview. Nope. So it is important to recognize when you grade someone understand the shoes they're filling. It's not easy to be a governor of the biggest state, the fourth largest economy. So what I would tell you is this, we became the fourth largest economy under Gavin Newsom. Check. We have expanded health care to more Californians. Check. Wait, that's why we're on a budget deficit. Yeah, get rid of that check. There are many things that he has done well. The other things, public safety I think he could have been more ambitious, homelessness could have been more ambitious, more have people be more accountable. If I were great tonight, say Gavin Newsom is going to go on to college because

35:49he's going to graduate from my high school. What? What the hell does that mean? What's the threshold for that? What's the threshold? Yeah, that that he's left us. The consummate professional, Ashley's of all, I can't even contain herself with that nonsense. No, no, he doesn't graduate high school. He doesn't even get a GED. Newsom is going to go on to college because he's going to graduate from my high school. What's the threshold for that? What's the threshold? Yeah, that there's so far. That he's left us in a place. So like a sea? Well, I mean, you could go to college with a sea. It's a lot more difficult. Oh, boy. He's just prolonging the agony. But I think he has done many of the things that we have asked him to do. And in some areas, well, when I become governor, I'll make sure. But what's the grade? I don't know if I can give him a grade. You just said you were going to give him a grade like two minutes ago. I thought you were going to grade him. Well, I was going to try, but when I'm telling you, I wasn't in his shoes. I know a lot of folks who

36:53gave me a grade on COVID say, oh, that guy was terrible, but they're still alive. Well, not all of them. They get to go out, not have to wear a mask. I mean, Babs, how you feel about that? Next slide. I mean, you can grade anybody the way you want. It's whether you left the place better than you saw it and you started. I would absolutely say he has. He's tried. As can anybody say that California isn't a better place now than it was in 2018? What kind of drugs is he on? Well, at HHS, you get access to all of them. He must have stopped piled them. I would absolutely say he has. He's tried and knowing how tough it is to manage an enterprise the size of the state of California as the Department of Health, Human Services, the largest public health agency in the world with a budget, as I said, bigger than the state of California, I know what it's like. And it's easy to grade. It's tough to accomplish.

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