Why transparency matters in new genetic food platforms

0:00It's Six Eastern, three o'clock Pacific, from coast to coast and around the world. There's a very long list of the fraud ways to abuse that doge is identifying. From America Out Loud Talk Radio, there's no chance that there's not kickbacks or something going on. It's time for Truth Be Told with Booker Scott. One of the questions I recently had had to do with MRNA going into beef cattle, milk cows and chickens poultry and that kind of thing. And I really didn't know. I did some research. It doesn't appear that the USDA has approved any MRNA to be injected into cows yet. But there may be a study going on to find out if that's going to happen. As usual, I don't know how to answer all these questions, but I know somebody that does and I'm going to bring her into the program now. She's been here several times. Her name is Brianna Sagdall. She is a senior writer for the Beef Initiative and also a fellow there.

1:03Brianna, welcome back to the program. Glad to have you. Thank you so much for going so glad to be back on with you. Love your show. Really appreciate you. Well, thank you. The last time you were here, you were talking about an executive order that Donald Trump needed to sign to prevent all the federal land grab that's going on. Has he done that yet? Well, it was actually the repeal of various Biden era executive orders and he has. We're very grateful for the Trump administration really looking forward to what happens next. Yeah, I wanted to make sure that I came back to that because that was what we talked about the last time you were here. But let's talk about this USDA because that is a question that has been posed to me. I know that you will know the answer. Are we injecting our food right now with MRNA? That has been approved by the USDA. Well, we are we are injecting pork hogs, excuse me right now. So this equity MRNA platform was approved initially for H5N1 in in in chickens nonetheless.

2:12And when Mark animal health purchased it from the pharmaceutical company that created it was given the initial bar to grant to develop it. They turned it into a platform specific specific the hogs. It's called security and the FDA approved that I believe in 2022. So that is currently in our domestic food supply on the hog side. But it is not in our cattle beef cattle or dairy cattle supply yet. But it's something we should watch out for because they are running trials on it, aren't they? That is what I understand, you know, this week the new AG Secretary Brooker Alliance, which we've all been very, you know, cautiously optimistic and and helpful for. Announce that there would be I think $100 million that were the USDA will be allocating

3:16towards vaccine trial and research. And my understanding is that will go towards trying various MRNA platforms on both poultry and cattle. So there's been quite a bit of hubbub about this online. But the great news is that the beef initiative is your number one source of information and access to ranchers and producers that have signed our no MRNA pledge. So all of our premier ranchers write on our site beefinitiative.com. When you go in you find our beef map listings and you find your local ranchers, you know, nearest to you. Every single rancher that is listed on our maps has pledged to not use any type of MRNA in their cattle supply. And in fact, we advocate a regenerative program through one company called the Better Fed Foods.

4:20And, you know, it's from the soil to the fork concept. But yeah, so anyone who is considered or excuse me, I'm concerned about this in their food supply. I would highly encourage them to get to other nearest rancher, go shake their hands and start buying your meat directly from the source. That also goes for buying chicken eggs as well. You can do the same thing. I have been to beefinitiative.com before. And what you would want to do is go there and find someone that's close to you. I live in the state of Florida. There are ranchers here in Florida that I can buy meat from there at the beefinitiative.com. They do not use MRNA in their food. So if you're concerned about it, like Brianna said, check out the beefinitiative.com. Now, should people be concerned about it? That's the next question. Should people be concerned about MRNA that's in hogs and going to be in chickens and also in beef?

5:24Well, so, you know, unfortunately, there's just enough research on it to answer that in any type of definitive way. But it is my understanding from speaking with very well-known, very well-respected veterinarians in addition to very well-known and respected doctors. That the MRNA platform has the potential to affect or infect individuals while handling raw meat. Now, I don't know that the meat temperature either freezing it or cooking it to a certain, you know, temperature will necessarily inactivate that MRNA. So I think at this point, it's probably just, you know, it better to be safe than sorry. I think it's incredibly irresponsible to put any type of product in our food supply that has the potential to impact, you know,

6:27the consumer because you don't, you just, you just have no idea what dose, right? You can't control the amount that individuals are getting. And so, you know, be that some form of spike protein or whatever it might be. I mean, this isn't my wheelhouse. So I just, you know, I think it's probably better to be safe than sorry at this point. Yeah, be cautious. Yeah, now exactly where your food is coming from and who's raising it and take control of your, of your own food supply. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being cautious that, you know, let's air on that side instead of going crazy about it. Well, I know that you had a win in the South Dakota legislature and we're going to get to that in a minute. I do want to remind everyone that in most cases, almost every state is having a legislative session right now. So for those of you that are concerned about things like election integrity, right now is the time to do that. It's not going to be later. It's not going to be when you vote. It's going to be right now when legislative sessions are going on across the country because those laws for election integrity need to be done at the state house.

7:35But let's move on to other laws that are being made in state houses. The last couple of years, I have seen laws that have been made and passed and signed into law that would at least tell people at the grocery. You are buying lettuce that has him or in a unit. Have you seen those as well? We've definitely seen an increased push across multiple states for labeling. And in fact, we had a really fantastic win here in South Dakota to require the labeling of lab culture, lab cultivated meat. Because the food and safety inspection service kind of dropped the ball on that unfortunately and we can get into that in a minute. But yes, we're seeing an increased effort, especially around the mRNA technology platforms, Montana, for example, is running a bill right now. The state they have it in their state legislature.

8:35I'm not, you know, I honestly don't know the latest on that one, but I do know that Montana ran a bill this year to require the proper labeling of meat that has been injected with mRNA. And how would they do that just on the packaging? Is that the way that that would be done? Yes, that's correct. All right. And you mentioned there, someone dropped the ball. Who dropped the ball? How did they drop the ball? Well, that's a great question. So this goes back to the lab culture, lab cultivated means. And, you know, if you're not familiar with this, you know, back in 2021, the Congress bifurcated the regulatory process. So essentially, the FDA was given part authority over the regulatory process and then the USDA was given part authority and how they split that up with between the agencies, right. So the FDA went ahead and they gave a what's called no questions asked approval for lab culture lab cultivated meat and for anyone who doesn't know what this is.

9:41It literally says in this no questions asked approval with character, you know, characteristics of fibroblasts and cell paste. So it's essentially a form of self replicating cell line that they can grow in a petri dish to resemble that of a meat product. And we've got corporations, corporations, GBS, for example, one of the big five or excuse me, big four in the in the cattle industry. I just opened this massive biotech center out of Brazil. They're working on not only beef, but chicken salmon and pork products. And then we've got good foods here in the United States and or excuse me, upside foods and good meats incorporated. One of them I believe is not a UC Berkeley and they're they're growing these, you know, immortal cell lines of food and unfortunately the FDA didn't review this product for safety because they decided that it is a meat product and not a pharmaceutical product.

10:53So they gave it this no questions asked approval and then sent it over to the USDA. The USDA did something really interesting with this under the Biden administration. Tom Vilsack approved lab culture lab cultivated chicken and then went and gave it the climate friendly climate smart label or award, whatever that is. designation, whatever, yeah, sure, yeah, which prioritized it under the federal plan for equitable long term recovery and resilience. What we were talking about the last time I was on for government procurement contracts, which means in this case our school lunch program because as as many may remember under the Obama administration, Michelle Obama had this great idea to centralize the procurement. Process to the Department of Defense for the school lunch program right the idea was that we would leverage the buying power of the Department of Defense and it turned out to be a nightmare Trump, you know, dismantled the program while Biden brought it back so unfortunately under this, you know, climate friendly deal.

12:09It would be prioritized for Department of Defense procurement in our school lunches and we may not even know what that is or have transparency over it because when it came time for the food safety inspection service, so figure out how these products should be labeled. They were kind of bullied with comments from from these massive corporations who claimed that transparent labeling would quote unquote violate the first amendment. Hamper innovation and harm the livestock industry so the food safety inspection service has kind of just been sitting on this labeling rule change since 2021. But now the products are approved or at least chicken is approved potentially going out to our schools and and nobody's really nobody's the wiser right. I was going to ask you do you know if any of this chicken or pork the pork that has MRNA this fake chicken that isn't even real is it making it to our schools yet.

13:20I think it's a really good possibility. I would almost I would almost guarantee that pork with MRNA in it is in our school lunches because it's always those procurement contracts are always prioritized for the largest corporations right so that would include Smithfield JBS Tyson for example and you know it's it's these large corporations. That are buying from what people refer to as industrial farms or industrial farmers right which is just kind of the stack impact model. So I would I would almost guarantee that the MRNA technology has made it into our school lunches. I'm not positive on the lab culture lab cultivated chicken. But that's what we wanted to make sure we weren't seeing here in South Dakota. You know in our in our kids lunches we weren't wanting to do that guesswork so we had a really incredible win here in the state something that almost never happens.

14:29We had unanimous consent from both sides of the aisle and both chambers meaning the House and the Senate not a single member of South Dakota State Legislature voted no on this bill. And it was very simple. All we did was bring forward this bill asking that no public dollars so tax payer dollars would be used to either procure which is purchase lab culture lab cultivated proteins for school lunches national guard what have you. Nor would our public dollars go into research and so we're very very grateful that it passed unanimously which made it veto proof. I think our governor our new governor would have signed it anyways but and and we're very grateful for a representative Jana Hunt who brought this forward and was willing to work with us and you know get our experts in there to testify. It was a great experience all together and I'm really hoping that this will become model legislation for other states to follow.

15:36Well hopefully people listening to this will be awake now to pay attention to manufactured lab meat, MRNA that is in hogs and chickens and maybe soon to be beef and milk cows. But congratulations on your win. I hope that that inspires some people to realize that if you decide to make a difference then you actually can make a difference if you get plugged in there to your state legislature and that's true about the election integrity that I talked about a few minutes ago and about what Brianna is talking about Brianna tell us every every tell everyone again about your beef initiative website what they can get there and what the address is. Yes thank you thank you so much Brooker and absolutely please check us out at beefinitiative.com check us out on beefmaps.org we also have beef news.org where you can get updates on everything that we're doing all of our hard work and achievements and make sure to check out beef maps and find your local ranchers.

16:49Get to know them, shake their hands, order whatever size you want of a share or a beef box and support your local ranchers. That is the most important thing and the biggest difference between the beef initiative where we're a foundation, we're a nonprofit versus these big beef box companies that might say they're supporting local ranchers. They have a bottom line to protect and oftentimes we're seeing these guys you know advertise that they're supporting local but in fact there you know getting getting their beef from other countries and importing it in because it's less expensive and then they can offer that at a lower rate to their customers whereas all we're doing is we are we're selling you on your local rancher we're just trying to we're just trying to connect people to their local ranchers. And really facilitate that relationship so that each and every individual has the opportunity to take back their control self sovereignty and chain of custody of their own food supply.

18:01I love it. Thank you Brianna. Thank you for coming. It's always great to hear from you. Thank you so much. Booker you have a great evening and I appreciate your time. More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in Minutes on America Out Loud. They were calling all patriots to Nashville, Tennessee July 2nd, 3rd and 4th for a powerful celebration of faith, freedom and the American spirit. America Out Loud, the wellness company and clear, invite you to join us for the 250-10 Nashville event. You'll experience best-in-class speakers, extraordinary voices from across America, bring in inspiring messages you won't forget and on July 4th get ready for the most spectacular fireworks show in the country, lighten up the Nashville sky, 250 years of liberty in America and 10 years of America Out Loud news, stand and strong for true justice and the nation we all love. You can save now with early bird christian at americaout Loud.news,

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21:06Don't forget to go visit the store inside the shop at AmericaOut Loud.News. You can simply go to AmericaOut Loud.News. Go in there and use the promo code for anything that you see that you may want to buy because it can save you up to 25 percent. That promo code is out loud, just type that in on your way out of checkout inside that store at AmericaOut Loud.News. And you can save up to 25 percent with that promo code out loud. I'm Booker Scott, and this is The Truth Be Told. Thank you so much for joining us here tonight. And every night as you do, if you're listening live, thank you. If you found us on a podcast later, thank you even more for going to that extra effort. You know, as we have come through the last four or five years, it really seems like our speech has been oppressed, and maybe that's even being nice. In some cases, I think it was just shut down. I know that some of us here in America, we were censored, we were shut down by our own government. There has now been proof of that. We saw that that has happened between the Biden administration, social media,

22:10Google. They all tried to silence us, our voices. And regardless of what the subject was, it could have been where COVID came from, whether it came from a Wuhan lab or a web market, or where their masks were effective, or the vaccine was safe and effective. All of those things were shut down or attempted to. Another part of that, though also, and we have seen this in other things, is how corporate world, regardless of where you are, they have taken it on their own to mandate things. We saw that with the vaccines. You know, they mandated shots, you had to get a shot or you couldn't work here. We saw that, but there is also a possibility that they are doing the same thing with speech. Lisa Myron, she is a Canadian, and she has written a book. The book is called World on Mude. How workplace speech committees are destroying our nations, and eliminating our civil liberties. Lisa, welcome to the program. Great to have you. Hi, Booker. Hi, everyone. I'm so glad to be with you tonight. That's wonderful.

23:15Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're here, too. Let's talk a little bit about your thesis. Let's start there. Why do you feel this is happening? And what do you see? And tell us a little bit about this book. So I'm a lawyer of 26 years, and I started to look at the speech committees, and every way to earn a living, because I'll say that trans-occupationally, every occupation is being sewn up, and that's trans-nationaly, that's coolably. And I started to see that then they would attract the speech committees. And when you had a speech committee, you could think of the Jordan Peterson case here in Canada, because you know him quite well. Right. And so I started to track this around the world, but these speech committees do something new. And so I collected all these cases from all, you know, all we see countries all around the world. And what I noticed is, it doesn't matter if you have

24:21free speech. It doesn't matter if you have a constitutional order. What they're doing is really inverting our democracies, or you know, republic, if that's the case. And giving you communism was what I would ever say. Well, let's have a referendum on whether or not we want this communist identity, because once you have a situation where you have to agree with your government in order to hold down a job, I think that's communism. And so, you know, if you have to agree with your government on certain speech dictates, and I looked at all the things that would get you in hot water with the speech committees. And that's in itself, what are the chances that organically every nation around the world is coming up and harnessing all the people in a certain regulated area, and all of those regulated areas get the same type of speech censorship. And the punishment,

25:26of course, is social and economic apartheid. So, you know, you're a debate, you're almost debanked. And I give the example of the Canadian truckers, if you donated to the trucker Convoy, you know, the government took the funds right out of your account, closed that account, and then that followed you, and you were stuck, you were out of society. And so, these speech committees, they take away your right to earn a living. And if you're independent, if you're an independent farmer, if you're a small business owner, if you have the ability, your small land owner, or you have independent wealth, or somehow you're an entrepreneur, you might not understand why the rest of the world is silent. So, I wrote the book to explain this mechanism that silence all the regulated professionals and occupation. And at the same time, I wanted to show that

26:29the professions that were independent were being attacked by the same government structure. So, you have a total silence scene that's coming around the world, you know, and I can give you examples in Switzerland, a guy, Alain Bonnet, called a fellow journalist, a fat lesbian. And for his trouble, he ended up being charged, and he's, you know, face his 60 days in jail. You have Sue Gray in New Zealand, and she had COVID clients, where she's challenging the government, she's a lawyer, you should be able to do that. And she had a run-in with her, you know, bar association. And again, this is a way to censor speech. If you fear, you know, that you won't be able to earn a living, you'll lose your designation, you're going to be quiet.

27:30And we've all seen with DEI, et cetera. Yeah, let me ask you a question about this workplace speech committee. Is this something that is put together in corporations? Is this coming from the Human Resource Department? What is this committee? Who makes up the committees? I think these committees are because you're regulated, like maybe in a accountant or a lawyer or a doctor, but increasingly even an electrician. They'll be, these speech committees are with unions. What they do now, if you thought, well, okay, I'm regulated, I just pay these enormous fees for, I have no idea what, and I'll get these courses that I have to take once a year, and I have to do my filings. And that might have been the purpose before for regulating different areas. But now they've added this speech committee, which is an authorization, I call them truth dampers. And there's key areas. So there's, you know, terrible things that get set all over the

28:35place and terrible things that get posted all over the internet. But they only care about a certain kind of speech. What I found was if you were pronation state, you know, you were a patriot. If you were up, you know, anti, you know, you wanted medical consent before you took a jab, right? If you wanted, you could talk about the vaccine till you blew in the face, but only one side of the topic. You could talk about COVID till you blew in the face, but only one thought topic. And then the same thing was, you know, LGBT, you could talk gay all day, but you can't go across the transgender movement. You know, there's key areas. And so what I need to send it up showing was that these, the areas that you couldn't speak were pillars of the global estate. Yeah. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah, the censorship is too a perp. So it does sound like, and it felt like it living through it, that everything that

29:43had to do with the one world order, the world economic form, as long as you were on their side, with your speech, then you were safe, and you were free to go with what you wanted to say. If you challenged that in any way, even with a question, then, then you were against them, and you were silenced, you were censored, and that is what your study to write this book has showed you. Let's not just the censorship, it's the idea that you lose the right to earn a living because that's really different. And their self-sensorship as well, Lisa, you know, the self-sensorship, I think, we have all felt. I know that I did, I would imagine that you did too. So that also is a part of it, isn't it? It is a part of it. And so the book, of course, covers four different areas. And the self-sensorship is evident in all four areas. The first is medical. And of course, you know all the doctors that lost their licenses or in Canada, we had a lot. And one of the

30:48examples is Dr. Hoff that I give. And he, you know, in April of 2021, he says, well, look, I've got, I'm very sorry to write this letter, but I've got all of these patients who've had, you know, several very sad side effects from the vaccine, some very tragic, and he writes the chief medical officer of health, you know, the Fauci in Canada of one of our provinces. In 24 hours, she writes to her, you know, without the FOIs, her, his lawyers got the FOIs freedom of information. She writes within 25 years, let's report him to his college, right? So for his trouble to let everybody know about the side effects that he was observing directly in his practice, he goes through law fair, he goes, he gets reported to his college and they want his license, they want to pull his license. So anyone who's a doctor watching this, they're not going to want to speak up.

31:51And of course, in the right, the media takes them through. So it's, they take the titans in all of our professions, the ones who have confidence and who can speak. And they dress them down publicly so everybody else is violent. We have, we have some here on the network that are very familiar with that. So we have shows from Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, we have Dr. Peter McCullough, who has shows here on the network. We have Nurse Jody O'Malley, who's one of the first whistleblowers that was a nurse during COVID, and they all experienced that. They all came through that. Exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, and Mary Tyler Bowden has her own chapter. Really? Okay. Well, she's, she's, she's on Monday nights right here at five o'clock Eastern time, on America, out loud talk radio. Oh, that's wonderful. And I've been on with Dr. McCullough as well. He's such a, such a lion, a lion-hearted man. And so at the end, so I decided, well, what's, let me scratch the surface, what's behind medical and what I found was an organization called

32:58TETA, T-E-H-D-A-S. And they have been mapping out along with the OECD, healthcare by AI. And the goal is, and they, they set out the laws that you need in place, the AI laws that you need in place, the goal is to eliminate our current healthcare system in its entirety. Right? So this is what I found. And I found that, so healthcare is defined as nine sectoral data spaces. So you're not, you're not healthy. You just have a certain set of data. And you're not sick. You have a different set of data. You're not dead. That's another set of data, right? So it's so dehumanizing where they're going. And I think I need to warn the world because the silent doctors, the silent nurses, the silent medical professionals who are afraid of their regulatory body and their speech committees, they're afraid of losing

34:02their license, will be objective behind this whole speech committee is to keep some silence. So there's no counterpoint. And we had towards this AI healthcare. And what they had was the idea of semantic. So they're all the same labels interoperability. They had technical interoperability. So all the computer programs around the world would have the same operability. They had nomenclature semantic. They had legal all the laws that need to be in place in order to upload AI healthcare or in that chapter. And that's when Musk was talking about AI, we have to really see that there is a real dehumanization that we become nearly our data and we're going into a huge operating system. And so I decided that we really need to warn all the medical professionals while

35:09we still have strength in the medical profession so that they can outlaw these speech committees and these bodies because we're not discussing the most important things in our society. I'd like to say that we're we're going from a right-based existence to an access-based existence. And the mechanisms of how we're doing it are disclosed in the book. The name of the book is World on Mut and you're listening to Lisa Myron. She's talking about the book and the things that she has found and you know the arguments that she makes in the book. I tell you to go and go to Amazon and find this book. It's $8 for the electronic version 24 and 28 for the hard copy is the hardback is $28. I want to go back to something and by the way I think the argument could be made that artificial intelligence health care may have a better bedside manner than some of the doctors that I've had. I'll just throw that out there. Inverting democracy, you brought that up. Can you

36:14talk about that a little bit? What does that mean to someone listening to this right now? Yeah, it's really important that when I go into the legal and political other speech committees right around the world for you know your ABA, your Bar Association, your LFO, the Law Society of Ontario all across the world, the Bar Association are checking out certain kinds of lawyers. They're checking out the pro-nation state lawyers. They're checking out the free speech lawyers and you know they're checking out the ones who have the balls to bring the the cases against any of the globalist mechanisms and so I want you to just envision that you have a constitution but if you can use a rogue power, this power is not defined in our constitution or your constitution is rogue power. It fits aside. It's a political branch. If anything and some administrative branch and I say it's a global beast. It's no longer belongs to any one body.

37:16It's a global beast and they can check out the lawyers by saying well that speech you can't have since you said it. That's it. No more lawyer and then you wouldn't have checked on executive administrative or pharma or any of the other areas and so you could literally jerry manager all of society and that's what they're doing in every single profession and I thought to myself well what would be the worst example? Because when I started thinking about the speech committees, how awful they were, I thought well what would be the worst example? I thought well what if you couldn't take something even in a meeting? Right then the remedy is always you know the court says no and what I saw was lawyers disbarred, you know you could just look at the Trump cases. What could be less of an insurrection than to ask in a court to take a look at a fact pattern and put the

38:24law there and hand it over very politely in your high heel shoes or your great suit and wait for the judge, make your arguments and wait for the judge. The idea that you disbarred Trump's lawyers really gave me the idea well geez that's that's pleading speech and then the lawyers that I spoke to who are bringing you know vaccine cases around the world what I was seeing is that they're getting punished themselves and so then you have the I there are cases where people can even find lawyers because they're too afraid of their professional body. Yeah I believe that I believe that's probably the case no doubt about that attorney Lynn Wood do you remember him? Do you know him? Are you familiar with his story? Yeah I mean that that was everything that you're talking about on steroids you know the bar association of Georgia really they ended up basically taking his law license although he said he was retiring it he was in a huge fight there because he challenged the

39:25election of 2020 and I think that's a great example of exactly what you're talking about. Her name is Lisa Myron the name of the book is World on Mute you can find it at Amazon and Lisa I want to thank you so much for doing this work for getting it out there letting people consider it and have this perception and I also want to thank you for coming on the program tonight it has been a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much for having me and you can also find me at lawyer Lisa dot sub stack dot com and I would love all your support. Thanks everybody. Thanks Booker. Oral hygiene hasn't changed in 50 years but our diet and the way we eat has creating an environment in your mouth for bacteria to wreck havoc on your teeth and gums. For better oral health get Sprite dental defense and oral care line designed to combat acid creating bacteria. The toothpaste mouth washments and gum all contain xylitol and natural ingredients shown to dramatically improve oral health. Sprite can be found online and at all find natural retailers.

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41:34than here on america out loud dot news now is our time my fellow americans america out loud dot news liberty and justice for all my name is booker Scott and this is the truth be told thank you so much for joining us joining the conversation now as a guy who is motivated by something you may not have heard about but yet it is making its way through general assemblies around the country and it's so important for us to get active locally and right now is the time to do that in general assemblies because

42:36in a couple of months they're going to be closed down for the year there's a small window of time where you can get things done and then that state's assembly is shut down for the year and you're going to have to wait six or seven more months before they come back into session going to introduce you now to Diego Rivera and you can follow him on social media by the way acts twitter at Diego for liberty and he is working on something with the national guard so Diego first welcome to the program and kind of tell us a little bit about what this is all about yeah so this is by far the coolest thing I've ever been a part of and I've been a part of a couple things so this is a legislation that says that without a formal declaration of war as prescribed by the Constitution that calls for Congress to formally declare war at the states will withhold their national guard from going into overseas active combat so in the past a national guard had been used a lot in our foreign conflicts and a lot of the foreign conflicts especially over the last 25 years

43:42there has been no declaration from Congress that we are in a war and they simply are conflicts but yet national guard troops are being used around the world simply put you're trying to get it past where Congress has to say we are in a war before someone in the federal government can say we're going to take Alabama's national guard and go put them in Iraq correct and so it's true and you qualified it so you said within the last 25 years and I'd say that's right um before that you know it was preposterous to think of the national guard going into overseas active combat and also it's been a dereliction of duty from Congress because they haven't declared war since 1942 against Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary and as a consequence how many wars have we won since we stopped declaring wars well we have almost been in a continuous war for the last 20 to 25 years ever since 9-11 it seems like we have been in a constant battle an interesting thing I saw when

44:42I looked at your social media platform twitter x specifically and I mentioned your handle on where people can find you is how full your timeline was of all these different state cases are you the one organizing this tell us what that's like and how it works and what it looks like because I think it's so imported and when it comes to election integrity and those types of things we're kind of missing the boat because those are all state issues and for some reason we cannot put the pressure on state legislatures to do something about it until it's too late and so what does that look like from a grassroots effort to have such success because you're you're getting this done in a lot of states aren't you yeah so we're filed in about 30 states right now um and it is the efforts of grassroots uh you know I wish that we could say that we were some big organization and that was our sole purpose and all this stuff but it really is just a grassroots desire to get this done and let me just say this as a qualifier to anybody that might if you're hearing this in the

45:46sound of my voice and you've never gotten involved with grassroots before I urge you to get involved let me also preface this by saying you're gonna screw it up yeah you're gonna do things poorly you're not gonna know what to do so it's better to get involved and figure out okay let me help someone first let me be a part of this find something you care about get involved learn what the process is go through the motions figure out how to do it right figure out the skills that it takes and then from there you can move on to your pet project um but if you're hearing this for the first time and no one's ever told you to show up show up because this really does take people regular people to make these sorts of changes but again yeah we are uh scheduled in about 30 states and how how did the how did that process come about for you guys because that's not easy uh I think it's also on people how difficult it is to organize in a way that it is in 30 different states general assemblies it's it's a difficult process to have that organization how did it work for

46:49you guys oh man so first we started off so bring our troops on initially started off uh with the intention of going to congress where we had uh you know just recently we had our 50th year anniversary um but uh the president damn ignite his purpose was to get together and as veterans we were gonna show up to DC and we were gonna tell him hey we want an end to these unconstitutional and endless wars and they were gonna go great point and they were just gonna end the wars and you know I don't know if you know that didn't work out uh so from there we focused on a bill that was written up by the 10th Amendment Center and has been championed by people like Pat McGeehan over in West Virginia um it's a legislation the legislation we're talking about and from there uh the grassroots efforts behind this is is tiresome because uh I have to find uh bill sponsors I have to find people that are brave enough to put this forward that will take the arrows I have to educate them on uh what's in it you know I have to educate them on this because most people don't

47:54understand because for most state legislators they've never thought about um foreign policy most state legislators don't understand the constitution so you kind of have to educate these people that are willing to be educated that are willing to fight for this but even just I just recently explained the process of what it would take from even just the filing to get it through a committee well in order to get it to committee we have to force leadership to assign it to a committee after it gets assigned to a committee we have to force them to hear it after they hear it we have to force them to vote on it then people think that that's yet no we also have to force them to pass it so it's a struggle every single send of the way and the problem is is that the generals the Pentagon DC the establishment never failed to show up to bully the politicians and politicians go towards the path of least resistance and so if the grassroots isn't there but the generals are the politicians will squish they will bend and they will try to kill this bill it is only when

48:56the grassroots shows up at every single step that I just articulated that we get this bill through Diego I think the points that you just brought up are so important in understanding the process of it's a civics lesson is what you just gave us really on how to get something passed in a legislator in a state but now you mentioned that are you doing this alone or do you have other people helping you because you mentioned having to reach out to first find the right type of state legislator that would take on your fight so is this something you're doing alone or do you have a little bit of help here well bring our troops home is three people and we do do this with local on the ground activists but as far as the organization I I cover grassroots there's a comms director and then there's Dan the president but it's when I say we're grassroots yeah we're grassroots yeah but it is really interesting to hear the steps in the process because you do have to find the right politician to take it on and this goes for anything if you're listening to this and you say I want

50:02this to happen in my state this is the process that you have to go through so I think it's important to get active and and like Diego said a few minutes ago be a part of something before you jump in to take on whatever it is that you have in your mind that you want to take on but again you have to find that politician then you have to get them to assign it in a committee and then in the committee you have to have a hearing and then from the hearing it would eventually hopefully go for vote so those are all the steps aren't they Diego yes it is and let me just and so that people feel that I'm not coming today like if they think that it's impossible to ever get to the point that they can learn I promise I'm not smarter than anybody that's listening to this I'll give you a perfect example I have knocked doors for candidates the first time I ever knocked I did it awkwardly the person to open the door I felt to articulate myself I stammered I stuttered the person just closed the door on me just slammed the door in my face now I could get to the point

51:04just a few weeks later where I have people literally come open the door pull a gun out on me and I could turn that around and be like I see your fan of the second amendment you're going to love my candidate and by the end of that interaction have their vote so it when I say just get involved get involved because if I can go from stuttering and stammering and just failing to use words at a door to turning a hostile interaction into a vote you can't do it takes practice no matter what we do in life and this is another example of that I think it's a great cause what you're trying to do and it really sounds like you've had success there's only three of you in the organization I want you to tell that organization again but there's three of you and you have legislation in 30 states are all 30 states going to be able to vote on that in this session or is this also another part of the process that could go into next year and the year after it's unlikely that all 30 just because we have to figure out how to allocate resources as

52:07best as we can and so for example I'll give you stone Missouri in Missouri has been filed so that's awesome on the bill champion but also we have to and now encourage leadership to assign us to a committee we have to encourage the committee chairman to schedule it for hearing we have to then call the rest of the members of the committee there to call them and tell them that we want this heard voted and passed right because sometimes they might hear it but they won't vote on it because politicians don't like to actually put up then they don't like to go on record and then so if they do go on record they're still going to try to kill it so the vote against it so we have to urge them to go against their neck neck neck excuse me natural inclination which is to vote against it and then to actually do the right thing so that's hard enough and so we have to figure out where our fights are and with the limited resources that we have we can't always do that as you know in every state equally some people just show up for certain amount of fights and if we had a bigger

53:07pool from which to organize these grassroots efforts we could potentially do it but it's just not possible with with what we have so like in New Hampshire we've passed the house and that took a large effort because that was endless amount of petitioning endless amount of door knocking lit dropping phone banking calling the committees educating them they'd have a response we'd have a response back some states they look the attorney general says it's unconstitutional we'll have a constitutional scholar write them back and say actually know the attorney general's completely wrong on this issue and here's why so it's not it's not going to be equal at every state but it also depending on the state of what you're hearing this your involvement changes how likely that is because maybe in your state it's not even filed or maybe it's filed but there's no one showing up to fight for it and that political pressure makes all the difference in the world with politicians because that that's all they count on your vote and if you're the one calling them and complaining

54:09and wanting something to get passed they're much more likely to hear you and listen to you let's go back to Missouri real quick because you mentioned a timing on that when does their session end in Missouri because it's it's usually what may or June sometime in there that most of these states shut down their assembly so you have limited time every year that the assembly comes into session correct so and I would say most states by the time you get to mayor June they've already had 90 died so like late states like North Carolina would see an end towards June but most of them wrap up after three or four months so by April these guys are already back home. Diego if you could tell everybody again the organization where they can go to find out what it is you guys are doing and the the two other names that are involved with that and then also tell everybody how they can follow you on social media kind of just tell everybody where they can find you guys. Sure so the organization was founded by Dan McKnight and you can find that at bringartroopshome.us

55:14so that's a website our main project that we focus on is defend the guard legislation so you can go to defend the guard at us and so we have a really good guy that puts all this together that does wonderful write-ups he's our comms director hunter dorences and you can follow the troops home social at at troops home us so if you follow that on twitter and for me if you want to email me or find me contact i will help you throughout the process of doing this i encourage you to help if this is something that you care about as well because it's not just again about this issue is that you can a lot of the skills that you'll learn the tools that you'll use you can apply that to your thing too and you can start to watch your project grow as well and so if you want to i'm not big on social but Diego for liberty on on the twitter and uh Diego at bringartroopshome.net so i know the websites are .us but for the email it's .net

56:15so if you just type in di egeo at bringartroopshome.net you can do that and if you don't have time you're busy you got a family uh maybe this seems a little bit too cumbersome you can always donate because like i said we're grassroots and that's a ten seven club.com that's all spelled out Diego Rivera is who you are listening to and again what they are trying to accomplish and you've heard a civics lesson here on how you go about doing that but what they are trying to accomplish is take away the ability of anyone in the federal government to send our national guard troops overseas to fight a war that has not been declared a war by the congress and that's me just simplifying what they are trying to do and they're trying to get this done through state legislatures across the country so great great work Diego good luck we'll keep an eye on that and thank you so much for joining the conversation it's been my pleasure and coming up next here on america out loud talk radio will be unleashed the political news hour your host on Tuesdays as Nate Cain former FBI whistleblower he'll be here in just a minute for unleashed i'm booker scott

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