
Why Cosmos Chains Need to Think Bigger with Max Einhorn & Spaydh
About this episode
At Cosmoverse 2024, Spaydh from Neutron and Max Einhorn from Valence dive into the future of Cosmos and the race to take crypto innovation mainstream. They discuss their “wartime mode” approach to building products, cross-chain liquidity, and expanding Cosmos’ reach into EVM and non-Cosmos ecosystems. Spaydh and Max envision Cosmos as a tech hub with products people actually want, breaking out of the Cosmos “bubble” to create integrated, user-focused DeFi applications. Tune in for insights on IBC, Cosmos Hub’s evolving role, and why the future of crypto demands bigger thinking.
Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures
TOPICS
00:00 Intro
03:59 - Resolving issues in Cosmos
09:55 - IBC adoption & IBC Eureka
13:10 - Bringing liquidity into Cosmos
16:58 - Valence's partnership with Neutron
27:12 - Running on Cosmos hub security
29:32 - Opportunities for the hub
GUESTS
Max Einhorn on X
Spaydh on X
SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture on X
The Interop on X
Get every episode summarized
Each time The Interop publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from The Interop

Crypto’s Casino Phase: The Future of Bitcoin, Ethereum & DeFi with Jordi Alexand...
The Interop

Why Ethereum Got Scaling Wrong with Lucian Mincu of MultiversX
The Interop

10% Yield on ETH? Here’s How Plaza Finance Does It
The Interop

"Liquidity Fragmentation Isn't a Technical Problem, It's an Economic One" - Josh...
The Interop