Which Draft Direction Makes Most Sense for Giants?

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2:03Hello New York Giants and welcome to another edition of the Lockdown Giants Podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast family. Now the number one sports podcast network in America, your host Patricia Trina, credential member of the New York Giants media for Lockdown, as well as for New York Giants on S.I., which is where you can find all my written work and as always, welcome to our Blue Crew, our every dayers, our newcomers and everybody in between. Thanks so much for spending part of your day with us here on the Lockdown Giants Podcast. And on today's episode, we'll please the welcome on in Rick Saratella. This is a tradition we do every year around the combined time. Rick is with all access, all access scanning. He's also the main man over the NFL Draft Bible, the founder. He has a great job with it, one of the best draft guides out there. And Rick is coming to us from the combined. So how are you doing, my friend? Good to see you. Hey, great to see you. Good to see you, Patricia. We're locked in. Yeah, we are locked in and ready to go. And a lot to talk about with this draft class. So let's jump right in, Rick, I want to start off with an overall picture.

3:10Now a lot of analysts are saying that this class is not particularly a strong one. Overall, in that you look at the first round grades, that there are maybe a handful of guys that have legitimate first round grades, maybe fewer than what we have seen in years past. Do you agree with that? Yeah, I would say in terms of overall blue chip talent and first round talents and even franchise quarterback for that matter, I would sit in numbers or down typically. You know, I'm in good year, you might see 14 to 18, maybe even 20 prospects that have a true first round grade. You know, I would say it's closer to 10 to 12, maybe for me, in this year's draft. I really only see Caleb Downs at the true blue chip in this draft class and outside of Mendoza, Fernando Mendoza, I don't think there are any franchise quote unquote quarterbacks in this year's draft.

4:10So I will say that there's tremendous depth at several positions, but yes, you're right. In terms of being top-heavy, true first round talents, it is a very down year overall. You mentioned there's some positions that are very deep. What are some of those positions? Well, now, I, I tried to believe this was one of the greatest linebacker classes that I've ever evaluated in my 24 years of covering the draft. I mean, I could state an argument that maybe half a dozen linebackers could find their way into the first round based on this year's overall draft class. So I think on the defensive side, a lot of people want to talk about the edge rushers. I understand it. But to me, I think linebackers are stacked on the offensive side. There's quite a few playmakers at the wide receiver position and another position that we don't usually see with, from in this depth, is the center class. There's actually seating very good, plug-and-play centers in this year's draft.

5:11So I think there are going to be really good value in the middle of our fellow's day two, even early day three, where you can find some starters at those positions. Let's stick with the centers for a second, only because when it comes to the giants, a lot of people are like Tyler Lindarbaum or Busse, who are some of the prospects that, you know, have that athleticism that I think the giants are going to be looking for at that center position? Well, let's start off with the Duke, offensive lineman, Brian Parker, who played left tackle at Duke. He kicked inside the center at the senior ball, a position that he played in high school. And he recognized that he, hey, I have shorter arms. My best outlook for NFL potential would be to move that center. He handled that transition very cool, very smoothly down there. In fact, that was the East West Rumble. I've been to too many all-star gaming mats. At the senior ball that was Sam Hecht for me, Kansas State, very polished product, multiple

6:13years starter, stout foundation to work with there. I think he's an immediate plug and play. And then I would say Parker Brailsford from Alabama and Jake Slaughter from Florida to SEC products, title tested, fighting, penances, play with the chip on the shoulder and the trenches. So I like those four centers. There's a lot of love out there for Connor Lue out of Auburn, who I'm not as high on, but I think, again, when you get into day three of the draft, a guy like Connor Lue out of Auburn or even Logan Jones from Iowa and Othro Pat Cougan from Indiana and so that makes I think all three of those guys have borderline potential starter abilities. So there's seven centers. I think that could really make a name for themselves at the next level. Traditionally, based on the data that have available to us, maybe about six to eight centers all get drafted every year. So I think it'll be interesting to see how that shakes out. Rick, stick with the offense for a moment. The giants need some skilled players.

7:15They need a receiver. They need tight end. You could probably make an argument that they need running back. And I know there's been talk about love, I believe, is the top running back in there. And people have, they remember the Sichuan Barclay incident where they took a running back at number two overall and they're like, no, never again. But that being said, based on the giants perceived needs, and I know you're familiar with them as I am, does it make sense for them to dip into the draft a little higher than normal for running back or any of those positions? Well, the general line of love is my number two rated player in this year's draft. So I would have no problem taking them number two overall and I look around the NFL and I see a trend where the running attack is growing right. So you're kind of seeing that shift from the past 10 or 15 years where we were past heavy league. I think you're seeing more teams emphasizing with a run.

8:15And I would imagine Joe sharing has a bad taste in his mouth for making the wrong decision. Let's just call it what it is. It was the wrong decision to let stay quite marked me. So why not write it wrong? Why not correct the mistake? Why not alleviate some of the burden that's going to be on the second year quarterback Jackson Dart and give them a backfield mate that he could turn around and hand them all off to 2020 five times. This guy's a dynamic playmaker, not just in the run game, also in the passing game and stay in there on third downs and block if you need them to. So to me, I mean, that's an immediate impact player. Somebody who's going to probably give you five strong years of borderline all pro pro bowl caliber potential. And hey, if you like having a top five running back in the national football league, which I think Jeremiah love will be, I don't think they're lacking her all with that. And of course, he would probably fit given that John Harbaugh with the Ravens did a lot of, you know, ring very heavily on the running game, not just, you know, on Lamar Jackson

9:15who could run, but on the running game in general. Yeah, I think the giants are going to want to be physical. They're going to want to control the line with scrimmage and that means controlling the clock. And I think again, you know, with you just alluded to not having an assortment of playmakers to go dink down field and really air the ball out. I mean, I think it would, it would also probably less than the, the amount of times at Jackson Dart has to run the ball, which I think would be very beneficial to because he was in blue tent way too many times, forgetting a little bit reckless running the ball. So hey, if you've got Jeremiah love back there, Jackson pump the brakes, we don't need to do all that. So I kind of like the fit. And I think the giants can go a lot of different directions. I think there's a lot of players that make a lot of sense. Jeremiah love being one. Hey, giant fans, it's tax time. But for a lot of us, the old way of doing taxes is well, a lot, trying to book an appointment

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11:21more and get a quote at USA dot com slash bundle restriction supply. Let's talk about receivers because there's the belief that the giants need a complimentary receiver alongside of Malik neighbors. But I want to ask you because again, the Ravens and I don't know how much of what they did involved more. They're going to bring to the giants. I would imagine quite a bit. But the Ravens, I think, used 12 personnel at the 4th highest rate last year. So you would think tight in my Trump receiver in terms of being the higher need. I want to get your take on that. Do you think it would, you know, the giants can afford to wait on a receiver. So class deep enough. And would you say gold for a tight end first or would you flip it? Well, I think when you're the giants, you're out of team. That's one or two pieces away. So I would go for the best available talent rather than trying to address the needs. I don't think that there's a tight end worthy enough being that high for the giants

12:26around one. Kenan said, deep is probably going to be the first tight end off the board a little bit under size. If the two and a half got wheels for days, right? He's a speed demon. And I think the blocking aspect is a very underrated element of his game. Do I think that he's worth enough to justify first round pick? Probably in a back end, right? So maybe if they want to trade back into the first round. But when they come back around at 37, I don't know if I could justify a tight end. This year's draft class that I think guys behind Kenan said, Deek would be Eli Stowers out of Vanderbilt, Max Claire out of Ohio State, Michael Trigg from Baylor. 37 is a little bit too rich for me. But I do think wide receiver, like I mentioned at the top of the show, this is a deep wide receiver class. And one guy that I would not be surprised to see emerges as the best wide receiver in this year's draft class. And he won't be working out at the combine because he's injured.

13:27But Louisville first belt, six foot two 200 and 20 pounds. He's a manchild yards after catch. And I think that this is somebody who's going to probably slide today to do to the medical concern. And I know the Giants don't want to draft another wide receiver with injury histories. But if he's hanging out on round three and you can pluck a player like that, I think that's going to be a phenomenal value. He also malachi fields out of Notre Dame. We all saw what he did at the Senior Bowl. I think he kind of expanded on his repertoire in terms of his arsenal. Six foot or two 20. Because each adip could be a challenge underneath as a position possession wide out. And he's probably a day to value. Dan Zell Boston out of Washington kind of seems like a strict hot man in this year's draft class because he got carnal tape from Ohio State. But tie lemon from USC Jordan Tyson for Arizona State. I think if the Giants are going to go around one, those are probably the three

14:29cucumbers at the wide receiver position. But then look at that too, guys like a German binard out of Alabama. You know, they may lose the Wendell Robinson. Well, here Tom is a binard. You could just plug in the same kind of capacity. Somebody can beat you on bubbles and screens and end around, but has the speed to take a deep destruction of the field that's needed. And we haven't even mentioned guys like an all our Cooper junior from Indiana. We saw what he did for the Hoosiers. Casey Kits up she on at a Texas A&M is a very twitchy slot. Receiver that could be had on day two. You know, one player who's my favorite prospect in this year's draft is Keita Weijen out of Iowa. And he's probably the most electrifying returns specialist I've seen. Since trending all of it and coming out of LSU. But man, at the news where it's runable, nobody can cover this guy. And I don't know what Iowa was doing using them on offense. Because I think he only had like 36 touches on offense and he's an entire career.

15:32But man, I have a second round grade on a Canadian region out of Iowa. Just based on a special teams value. But man, he's been a probably go day free. And again, great value as a slot return specialist. Ted Hurst from Georgia State really turned some heads at the senior ball, small school, big, lengthy, boundary, wide out. And then they have a route running specialists like a Skyler Bell out of Yukon, who's just got footwork like Fred Astaire. So I mean, when you talk about the depth at this year's wide receiver class, it's fun. Sounds like it. Now, you break up something pretty interesting. And I want to ask you about it. We talk about the first round being kind of, you know, there's not a lot of blue chippers, legitimate blue chippers. The giants have in the second round. They go from I think it's 37 to 105 is their next pick. And that's in the fourth round. So if the giants wanted to pick up a third round, which, you know,

16:34they gave up in the Jackson Dart trade is the second, does the second round make the most sense in your mind for them to trade down or do they just say, you know what? It is what it is. We're just going to roll with what we've got. I think a lot of that will be determined by the quarterback market. And from what I'm hearing here in Indianapolis, Ty Simpson is the consensus number two quarterback, despite what the tree line might be on the streets. But I think Ty Simpson may go higher than people realize. If he does, then I think that that pick becomes devalued on the trade market. Now, if there's a quarterback, such as Cole Penguin out of North Dakota State, or Garrett Nussmire from LSU that a team has looking to maybe move up in a draft, well, then the giants may have an opportunity there. So I think the quarterback market, usually that number 33 pick is,

17:34is really the one that holds the true value. But, you know, if they're still a quarterback on the board at 37, there may be an opportunity there. But to your point, when you lack that pop and talent, I think you're going to see teams wanting to trade back, rather than trade up. All right. Now, let's talk about the defensive side, because I happen to think that the giants are going to make this a defensive, heavy draft, right? They become all three levels, starting with the defensive line. Linebacker is definitely in the corner back is in need, and you can make a case for safety as well. Let's start with the defensive line. I think if the giants can pick up a five tech, you know, a flexible five tech that they can move around, that should be a high need. I'm just wondering if you agree. And if so, who are some of the guys that you think might potentially fit with? Denord Wilson has done maybe with Tennessee. Yeah, you know, I think Lee Hunters, a guy that I'm really high on at Texas tech.

18:37I think he's going to be more versatile than people realize up the next level. He's kind of been dubbed as a two-down runner-stuffer, but this guy has a wedisly zone. He's agile. I think he's shown the ability to get after the quarterback a little bit, too. So I do think he's a three-down player. Here's my number one rated defensive tackle, but grades are all over the board. From the answer he can go on day one, he can go on day two. I think I'd be a tremendous value at 37. Christian Miller is a guy maybe in play at 37 as well, at a Georgia, really polished product that's 6'4, 305 pounds, quick get-off, excellent hand usage, stays low to the ground, fires off the ball. And the one guy making waves and then the Annapolis here is Kayla Banks in Florida. Now, he only played three games this past season. Does come with some injury concern. Does play a little high at times. But if you remember, Dionne Walker coming out of Kentucky a year ago, who's down at the Senior Bowl and had some of the similar concerns,

19:40he had a very productive year for the Denver Broncos. And I think Kayla Banks is a guy that kind of fits that mold. What did that linebacker? I mean, Bobby O'Karrake is probably going to be a cap cut. No guarantee Mike McFadden is back. And the depth behind those two, quite honestly, wasn't really, you know, impressive to say the least last year. Who are some of the really good fits for them? I mean, it is a deep class and do you recommend, you know, do you think it would make sense to wait on a linebacker or just, you know, grab one early, get into the depth of the class? I think it can't wait at the linebacker spine. I really like to see them go lineback at 37, specifically Jacob Rodriguez, if I had my pick of the litter out of Texas Tech, draft grades, Barry O'Hell from day one to day three, a little bit of hip stiffness concerns there, not a true athlete, probably isn't going to test well in Indianapolis. But Patty, all he does is make plays, create turnovers, 13 forced fumbles.

20:41You saw him down at the senior ball, dealing with every single day, interceptions, forced fumbles. I heard him talking out at the podium, and he actually got a chance to meet Peanut Tillman, which he's kind of mastered that peanut punch. And he said, I got to pick his brand and even learn more tricks of the trade from that aspect. So to me, Jacob Rodriguez would be a home run, exactly what par ball would want for his mic linebacker. But I mean, at number five overall, I think either a Iowa state linebacker has to be in play. For whatever it's worth, I'm sunny styles over our Valarice. At six foot five, 240 pounds, I'm anticipating him to run in the fourth range. And this guy can also get after the quarterback. I know a lot of folks think our Valarice projects as an edge rusher. But if you go and look at sunny styles, production coming off the edge, he can do it too. I prefer as an off ball linebacker, but when you're talking about lateral sideline to sideline,

21:43ability to cover ground sunny styles as good as it gets, he's a top five player for me in this year's draft. And then Anthony Hill Jr. out of Texas, Iowa Lewis out of Pittsburgh. Lewis came in at six feet, which was good, because I think some teams were kind of demoted. Is he a linebacker? Is he a safety at six foot? I think he's going to stay at the linebacker position. And he's another one who got a phenomenal senior ball. And then we, you know, Steve Day Allen out of Georgia, is probably the top 50 candidate. Hyrule Perkins from LSU might be one of the most polarizing prospects in Indianapolis right now. He reminds me of Miles Jackie broken as an edge rusher, converted to off ball linebacker. The teams are kind of trying to figure out what's his role going to be at the next level. Iowa Perkins is a very intriguing player. Jake Galaday out of Cincinnati, might be hanging out for the Giants in the second round. Another one, he's being six foot four, 240 pound linebacker. So you've got all different shapes, sizes, and flavors

22:45at the linebacker position. And this is again, as talented as the linebacker class that I can remember, you know, to me, you know, talking about the Giants going defenses, the ideal draft in my humble opinion, brings an area. You take kill of downs at five. You come back and take Jacob Rodriguez at 37. Now with Dexter Lawrence up front, you have studs right down the middle of that defense. And I think John Arbor wants to get strong up the middle of that defense. And for any of that would be a really tone setting draft. Hey, giant fans, when the pressure's on and you need the right hire, it's time to call in indeed sponsor jobs. Indeed sponsor jobs helps you reach the people who actually fit what you're looking for, skills, experience, location, et cetera. So that you're not just hoping that the right candidate

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25:50It can't be even taller than anyone attestipated. And I had a spring measurements. That's six foot three and a half. So he can't man about an inch and a half taller than that. And you do say, well, you know, what do you do with it? Right? Do your sweatshirt on to edge. And how many sticks foot five linebackers in a jacked camel is maybe in that range? So I do think there is a little bit of concern. Can you be true to all at a position? I think that votes through. Is it a major concern? Probably not, but in the back of Scout's mind that I do think it's something that they're weighing and we can sit on. All right, let's talk about the back end of the defense. Because as I said, the giants definitely need cornerbacks. It's been said that this is a very deep cornerback class. Who are some guys that you like for the giants? And where do you think they might go in terms of the order to get them? Well, Mansoor Delain is my number one rated cornerback. And I think he really did a great job

26:51limiting the touchdowns at LSU. Kind of saw him become more of a walk down cornerback. And I heard him talking today about applying to show that transferring to LSU. I had a first round grade on that Virginia Tech, but he did get Berks and had the propensity to give up the big play. He's limited that this year. And I do think that he really is up to our lockdown corner. And you can state an argument there at number five. I wouldn't have had any qualms with that because there is no consensus at the top of the board. Day two, you know, eight minutes or else on Clemson are probably off the board. He's a very polished overall cornerback. You know, Jermod Mcloi from Tennessee is projected to be a first round pick, a top end of the first round. I didn't quite get that impression. Watchin' his film at five foot 10, coming off the ACL, being cleared late in the season, not playing for Tennessee. Opting out of the combine,

27:54not accepting his invite to the senior ball. I'm starting to question how competitive this guy is. Like, given play for over a year, you got medically cleared. You decided to sit out at the end of the year for Tennessee. You didn't want to participate in mobile. Now you're putting everything off to your paroday. I would have been surprised up to hard. Mcloi winds up sliding because of his decision-making during this draft process. And then Brandon, to say, from South Carolina, there's a guy that came on late in the season, a little bit more raw and it's to refine some of this technique, but does have the size to play boundary, shade under six foot to all 190 pounds. So I think those are the guys that are gonna probably go in the first round category. And then you're looking at, like, the Angelo Ponds out of Indiana. What do you do with the five foot eight and a half cornerback? He's like a Conte de on steroids, right? Parting the pun. But the Angelo Ponds, a very feisty, physical cornerback,

28:54probably gonna have to kick inside to the nickel. And then Chris Johnson from San Diego State, remember that name? He really made a name for himself at the senior ball, proving that step up in competition wasn't too big, physical corner at six foot, 180 sides. Keate Scott from Miami. He could be a candidate at 37. Now he has the versatility to play cornerback or safety. So he could be someone to purchase peace for the Giants. Obviously, he played a key role for the Hurricanes and their national championship run. So Colton Hood, we talked about Draman Recois from Tennessee Colton Hood. Was another guy who drew buzz in Mobile. A lot of people feel like he's in that top 50 contention and could also be in place for the Giants at 37 as well. And I'm giving one more dark horse candidate. This day was, they was sent in Bunsen from Ohio State. He did have a brother who played at Rutgers. And when I pulled the wide receivers at the senior ball

29:56and just caught by some wide receivers along with scouring trials, I would ask him, hey, who's the toughest point you face? Who's the guy that really gave you some problems? This Davidson at Bunsen came quite often. I mean, he really improved this past year. He was the most penalized quarterback two years ago, 16 flags. So he gets a little handsy, but he cut that down just four penalties this past year. So I think Davis and Bunsen from Ohio State, the isn't a guy that could move up draft boards here. Rick, I like to ask you this every year because you always hit it like out of the park with this question. You mentioned some sleepers. I wanted to, I want to get your take on some more sleepers that we're not really talking about or hearing a lot about, but who this scouting community is buzzing about as they pertain to maybe giant needs and giant fits. Yeah, well, I got the cornerback big board in front of me and he really smithed from Toledo as a guy. He really stood out to me at the East West Shrine Bowl. He's not coming for everybody.

30:57He's converted quarterback and coach said, hey, man, you know, we need you on the team. We need to elsewhere. I said, coach, where do you want me to play? And I said, when did you go corner? He said, sign me up. And he came out. He played lights out at the East West Shrine Bowl. He was, he was another jockstrap all week long. So I was really impressed by his, his coverage ability at linebacker. I'm looking at a guy like Aidan Fisher out of Indiana. I think he's one of the most underrated players. Not going to wow anybody by any means in terms of measurables or testing, but Aidan Fisher is just a really solid player. Comes up big in the clutch, made big plays when Indiana needed to do that, you know, at the edge rusher position. I'm looking at a guy like a Danny Dennis from Penn State, you know, we've seen the netting lines turn out some pretty good pass rushers. And he might not come with as much hype as some of the previous prospects

31:57to come out of that school. But when he told about size, physicality, being able to set the edge against the run against the pass, that Danny Dennis Sutton, I think, is a very under the radar defensive end in this year's draft class. Do you need to run stuff in defensive type a little bit further than a big orange Dominic orange that Iowa State that is? Now he got injured early in the season. So that may have dampened some of this draft stock. But I think this is a two down and fursor, right, that you could probably have on day three of the draft. One guy, not an Indianapolis, that I was surprised by his Kaden Barnett at him Wyoming, really didn't know too much about him, had a chance to see him along the all-star trails, really polished products from Wyoming. Keep an eye on that young man. And then just moving and grooving through the board. How about Blake Miller from Clemson? Somebody who doesn't get talked about enough, I think, when it comes to the offense of tackle position, but incredible length, incredible pedigree,

32:58experience, size, everything I'm looking for at the right tackle position. I'm Neil Wagner, too, from Notre Dame. If the Giants are looking for a tackle on day three, I'm Neil Wagner from Notre Dame, and then there's Penn State again. No, in a Ruchie, he did not get a combine invite. I was very impressed with those two players at the East West Shrine Bowl, at the tight end position, or a mine out of Michigan, keeping an eye on what he runs here at the 40-yard bass. I think he'll be one of, if not the fastest, tight ends. And then Cyrus Allen at a Cincinnati is just a sprake, Schienberg, and nobody can cover this man. I saw him at the American Bowl, he got pulled up to the Senior Bowl. Again, not a combine invite, but a guy that I think is going to make some noise. One guy who is here is Zebe on Thomas from LSU. He fits in that Wendell Robinson category as well. So day three, Zebe on Thomas could be in play, and then I want to talk about this kid out of Virginia Union.

33:58I have him as a top 10 running back prospect, Curtis Allen. They call him the D-True Derek Henry. He was in the HBCU Bowl. This guy looks the part. I had a chance to scout him at the American Bowl, six-bar, kind of 20-plush. He's just monster between the tackles, if you like, card-nosed running. I know the New York Giants football team does. And my bad Jayden, it was like, hey, remember me? Down there at the Senior Bowl, forgotten him. I had him as my top-rated running back coming into the season. He didn't really can out that way, but he reminded us down in Mobile, but hey, I still got it. So Jayden and I, good man, Dave's very sleeper. Wow, that's a big list of sleepers. Yeah, we're not sleeping much in energy, because we're trying to bring it to the names he needs to know. No, that's great. I mean, I love that you're talking about sides that maybe aren't there that you scouted at all-star games,

34:59because everybody puts the focus on Indy and the Combine, and we kind of forget about all-star games. And I think that's important, especially the guys that aren't in Indy. So final question for you, Rick. If you had it, put money down. Who do you think the Giants, or what direction do you think the Giants go at number five? I'm going to have to stay all in on Caleb down. It's just because I think it's the best player available. I do believe it'll still be on the board. And to me, it just makes it too much fun. So I'm going to go. All right, hey, I have it. Rick, great stuff as always. Before I let you go, tell everybody about the draft Bible and how they can get it. That go over to all that football.com. How you can? Purchase the NFL draft Bible. It's part of the premium package there. You get access to all of our insider content. We have all of those all-star game reports. We've got our Combine, Comfort Adventure. But more importantly, you get the NFL draft Bible.

35:59We'll have well over 500 in-depth scouting reports. All my intel from the scouting trials, from training camp to the draft, background reports, verified measurables. If you want to be an insider, come draft weekend. Go get the NFL draft Bible. And how always left coming on every year, this time of year, chopping up with your nutrition, keep doing a phenomenal job. I appreciate everything you're doing for the Giants community. Well, thank you so much, Rick. And I appreciate you taking time out of your Combine schedule to come on with me. This is a tradition. We've got to make this more of a meeting. We've got to do this more often, I think. Let's carry it on. Let's go. Maybe as we get a little closer, once some of these pro days are in the books, we can touch base and see. And especially after free agency, because that can sometimes affect the change at all up. Yeah, absolutely. Sounds great. First of all, thank you so much. That's going to do it for this edition of Laughin Giants. Thanks to Rick Sirotella.

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