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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond

the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen

something impossible, from backwards trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms

and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with

more questions than answers.

These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll

hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever, so stay

with us.

All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of having Mr. Gary Allen back on

the show. We've had Gary on the show recently, two times he's been sharing multiple things

that have happened around Oregon for him specifically in the Mount Hood, Lolo Pass area,

and with the Bigfoot Research Project is where you can find the videos that he might be

referring to, and that's on YouTube.

So, welcome back to the show, Gary. How are you doing today, sir?

Doing well, doing well, thank you.

Awesome. Trying to think last time we talked, we had some, you shared some really

interesting things. I want to say it was around 2022. You were referring to, and there

was the individual that was in the tent, and there was the Bigfoot that was smelling

her hair, and it got very, very intense.

It was so weird, and she screamed at the top of her lungs, and nobody heard her. That

was just odd. I mean, don't understand it, but absolutely.

We ended last episode with, we still have some things to hear. You're saying we have

stuff from 2023 through 2025, and maybe some other things depending on where we go in

this episode. But Gary, I want to make sure we make the best use of our time today. So,

you're welcome to take us back to where you'd like to pick up with your encounters.

Okay, thank you. First of all, I apologize if my voice is a little gravely today. I have

a, I'm just getting over a cold, but this is the only time I, and day I could do this.

So here we go. Just one other thing. If I look down, I am looking at, I'm looking at

notes, but they're high points. It's not like a story I'm reading or anything like that.

All of this is from memory and mine's pretty good. You know, if I had just gone off

the 2019 siding, you know, where I was watching one for eight minutes, and if that was the

only thing that happened, you know, I wouldn't need notes. It's just we've had so much activity,

and I'm just talking about the siding's when I'm talking with you, but I've seen

rocks thrown into the size of bowling balls and hit trees that are, you know, up 150 feet

up in the air and break limbs all the way down and, and just continuous bombardment of little

pebbles and, and, you know, heard voices, heard all kinds of things that I'll touch a little bit

on with these siding's, but there's just so much more than just the siding up there.

And we, we don't see them every time we go out. It's just that's, that's not the gig. We go

on rides. We ride about four or five times a week here at our out of our ranch, got a small 32-acre

tree farm ranch here in here over in the coast range, about 30 miles southwest of Portland.

Our property butts right up against the Stimson Timber property, which is 77,000 acres,

and Stimson gives us permission to ride our horses back in there. Very few people have permission

to go in there, but we, we have it. Also, that, that 77,000 acres at the summit,

touches up against 350,000 acres of Telemock forest. So basically, as a crow flies from my house,

it's 20 miles to the ocean, and you can ride a horse from my house to the beach. It's, it's possible

to go up over the range and come back down. And once you get to the top of the range, you can see the

ocean. All that being said, you know, I spoke about multiple sightings up to this point, you know,

one actually down the road at the entrance to the lake on the highway that goes between

forescroven and Gaston, one up at Northrop Creek, and then the 2019 and 2020 up at Lolo Pass.

We, we, we don't just encounter them up at Lolo Pass, we encounter them pretty much everywhere we go,

just not every time. I mean, it's like one out of 10 rides will, will have something happen.

My, my belief is that, you know, they have to be in the area that you're in, and then they have

to be attracted to you for some reason, you know, whatever it is you do. If you're walking around,

you know, stealthy and camo, they probably aren't going to know you're there and, you know,

or they'll know you're there and just leave you alone. We do the opposite of that. We're riding

a horse in a bike and I got bright yellow shirt on and we're laughing and having fun and,

you know, making fun noises while we write up the trail. It keeps the horse aware that when I'm

out in front of it and I go around a corner, when it comes around the corner, it's not startled

because it hears me and because we're constantly making noises back and forth and, you know,

we do whoops and mainly we make the cacao back and forth. And on my videos, you'll see me do that

quite a bit. It's to keep the horse settled. The horses used to that. So if you look at my videos,

you see that and I know a lot of people say, oh, that's just stupid, but I don't care. It's keeping

our horse safe. So the thing about endurance horses is their Arabs are really

flighty, really touchy and the slightest thing can set them off. So we have to be real careful,

you know, one more up there in the mountains, which I'll get to in here in a bit about the

sighting that stopped us from going up to low, low pass anymore. So at least up this one trail.

But anyways, let's we'll get to 2023. I left off in 2022. In 2023, we again, we have a tree farm

and we harvested 77 truckloads of trees off of it, you know, they're 120, 150 feet tall.

Anyways, we harvested all these trees because we're opening up and doing a replant and

opening up some acreage for some other stuff we're planning because we are farm and area for the

horses. So one of the areas we cleared is next to our house and I can see it out my kitchen window.

It's about 16 acres of hillside and it's pretty steep. As I look out the window, the hill,

the hill goes at an angle to me, you know, 30 degree or whatever. It's pretty steep, but it's

really rugged. There's no trails, nothing up there. Yeah, we're we're going to put some in, but

right now there's just fallen trees and brush that's about about three to four feet tall with

blackberries and it's nothing you want to run through. It'd be big detrimental to a person,

you know, or you're clothing to try and and running up that steep of a hill is not really a great

thing anyway. So what I'm getting at is June of 2023. I was making coffee in my kitchen and we've

we've lived in this house since 20, I want to say 2020. So we've lived here three years and

we harvested the wood the second year. So this is the first full year of of having the trees on

that side of the property mostly harvested. We left we left quite a bit, but it's pretty clear

over there. So anyways, sun's just coming up. I always wake up before daylight and I was making

coffee and the sun's just coming up. So there's enough light that like if a deer or something was

running up that hill, I could see oh, that's a deer, you know, a bird flies by or whatever over

there, you know, an eagle because we got quite a few of those up here. I'd see that that's, you

know, that's what it was. I can make out, you know, pretty good. It had enough light I could see.

And here's what I saw. I noticed some movement across the hill and I saw two figures. So the

hills like this, I saw two figures running up the hill. What really drew my attention is how fast

they were moving up the hill. Deer are fast and they can, you know, they bound up hill pretty

darn fast. These were moving about twice as fast as any deer I've ever seen. Go up that hill and

deer go up and down that hill daily. We see them all the time. Don't really see deer run up that

hill though, but these two things were. So they're just one right behind the other running up the hill.

I'd say probably three times bigger than a black bear. And they were moving so fast. I mean,

their legs were like a blur of movement, but they were just racing up the hill. They made that

hill from bottom to top and it's several hundred feet. I'd say probably in about five or six

seconds. I mean, it was just like stupid fast. If if a deer were to go up that hill would take

it probably about twice as long. And that that's what was drawing my attention is these things

are just moving fast. They're jet black and no ears, no snout wasn't wasn't a bear, no snout.

Couldn't make out features. Again, just just I could see their heads. I could see their bodies.

And their their their shoulders and their side was above the three foot brush by about two feet

when they ran. And I can see the length of their body. They were pretty I mean, they were big. I

mean, they were it looked like a far horses were trying to go up through that, but but so much faster

and and you know, didn't look like horses, but anyways, they were huge. Two of them

riding up the hill. So I saw that and I just kind of stunned for a second. I'm thinking, wow,

you know, there's there. I've heard a few tree knocks out here and I've heard

you

Gary either.

Hello. Are we back? Hey, Gary. That was weird, man. Um, so I don't know what happened

there. And we're still recording, by the way. Um, my whole computer just locked up. I had

to reboot. Sorry. We haven't really broached weird stuff on this yet. Um, but like,

uh, weird stuff happens sometimes. And, um, so when you were telling your story, ice, this

is, I saw across the room, what looked like a little, a little tiny something moving,

like a little ball of, of light or something. It was weird, dude. I don't know. Um, sometimes

this, um, this subject just creeps me out and I'm wondering, what am I doing, man? Yeah.

Am I, you know, sometimes I feel way over my head and, um, you know, it's supposed to

be a fun hobby. And I think I'm, um, I think I'm poking the bear a little too much here

sometimes, but, um, or the big foot for whatever you want to term there. Oh, I agree with

you, man. I mean, I feel the same ways sometimes. So the last thing I heard was you had heard,

there were like, it was like two or three knocks. Oh, yeah. Over, over the, the couple

of years before that that we've lived here, um, we're heavily wooded right up to the

house. I mean, you couldn't throw a rock 20 feet out in a hit of tree. And, um, and

there would be knocks, um, like a hundred feet down below. Um, and I've had a, uh, people

that were staying with us because people bring their horse trailers and campers up and

they ride with us and stuff. Um, they would say they woke up in the morning and they thought

somebody was knocking, um, on their back door or something so the knocks were so loud, but

they opened the door and then they heard the knocks down below. It was just so loud that

it woke them up. But, but I, I've only heard it once in a while like in the, in summer.

I'll hear a couple, but, um, the, some of the odd things are, are mainly the owl noises

that we hear are just a little off, not, not quite the borrows owl, you know, who cooks

for you. They'll be slightly off or drug out. And I've heard that before up at, up at

Lolo Pass and over at North Rip Creek and Rears Camp in a couple of other places. But, um,

so anyways, uh, yeah, so these things are, are, are ran up the hill like, stupid fast,

crazy fast and, and uh, I'm, so I'm looking around for tracks and stuff. I, I find

Cougar tracks. I find bear tracks. We have a bear that lives at the pond down below us and, uh,

she has cubs like every other year or so. And we see her once in a while way down on the

outskirts of her, our tree line. Um, really not afraid of bears much, not afraid of cougars much.

Um, they, they stay away and now we have livestock guardian dogs that keep them even further away.

So, um, so that's not really a thing. Anyways, that, that was pretty much, uh, that was

pretty much that 2023 around the house, uh, thing. Um, we've heard voices at night before,

like saying like a single word out out in our back 40 where there's no people and so many

blackberries you wouldn't want to walk through there. I mean, it'd be just dangerous. Um,

and, uh, that's, it was a human voice, though, saying like one word, you know, um,

it was just strange, but it was, uh, so, so after that siding, um, that was in June and July,

um, my birthday month, we go, my girlfriend asked me every year, what would you like for your

birthday and every year, I tell her, well, I'd like to go back up and, you know, train the horses

at Lolo Pass because it's just, it's beautiful. They're the sandies right there and it's just gorgeous.

And every year she says, okay, and I think she's crazy for doing that, but, uh, she's,

she's pretty fearless, at least she was. Um, so in 23, we went back up and, uh, we unloaded

it on a Friday, we, we, um, we write out, we, we're just gonna go to the three rivers and back and,

um, and, uh, it's, it's, you know, a couple of miles out.

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for an office near you. And, um, right before you get to the three rivers is the meadow where I

previously had two sightings. And, um, and in, uh, 19 and 20 and 21 and 22, you know, didn't see

anything out, you know, nothing, no action out there. But, um, so anyways, you know, we're,

we always look over there and we're watching what the horses up to and, you know, seeing where it's

pointed is ears at. And it was, it was pretty much fine. Um, uh, oh, uh, let me backtrack. I,

I built a, a small e-bike and I brought that to and, um, we invited Tom Powell, Joe B. Lard and

some other friends up and Tom rode the small bike with me until he couldn't, then I switched bikes

with him. But, um, we rode to the three rivers and back and, um, and on the way there, um, didn't,

didn't see anything, um, nothing of consequence come back. Then I'm right out with the horse and we

go to the rivers and back, just warm in the horse up and, um, nothing strange. I mean, it's a little

quiet, but just nothing strange. So, um, we decided we're going to ride the two bikes again, because

we had a couple hours before, before twilight. Ride the two bikes again and this is where it got

weird. So, we're riding up this trail and we get, we get, you know, a ways out there to where that

matter is, you know, two miles out or whatever. And, um, and the trail is, is, is the horse trail is

flat and the sides of it are up, um, it's dirt has been packed down over time in the middle of

the trail. So, the sides of the trail are about a foot tall. Some places there are two to three

feet tall or it'll be level ground, but the brush right there or rocks right there will be one to

three feet tall. Um, and for, for quite a distance in several spots, it's, it's almost not flat

off to the sides of the trail anywhere on that trail. But we're riding, we ride past the first half

of the meadow and then, uh, come up to a tree branch that's been laid across the trail. Um,

the branches, I don't know, uh, three, four inches around, you can ask Tom, um, anyways, uh,

and about eight feet long and, and um, it's pretty well stripped, um, of anything. But it's right

across the trail and because the, the trail sits down in the skull, it, it's sitting about a foot,

you know, foot and a half off the ground. So I can't ride a bike through, have to stop, have to move

the branch, right? So we go about another hundred feet and there's another one. We go another

hundred feet and there's another one. Um, there were a total, I think four or five of these.

And so, um, it was just strange because we had just been through there like a half hour before.

And if anybody was in that area, there's only one trail in, and there, there's no two trails.

And there's nowhere else to walk through the thick brush. You would have to go bias.

Either on the way in or on the way out on the, between these two runs. So whatever did that was there

in a, and, and stayed there in the time loop that we were gone and came back.

So, Tom and I think, well, shoot, you know, they, looks like they like sticks. So, let's build

them a structure. So down by the river, we built a, a, a lean two kind of teepee thing.

And made it about, I'd say about seven or eight foot tall and they're all kinds of branches

we lean together. And we put some branches through sideways. And I had some apples with me and I

put some apples on it and had a bag of salmon. And I put the salmon on it. And in the bag though.

And it was all good food. The salmon was real tasty smoked salmon. And I think I had two bags

of salmon. So I put two bags up and it put some, uh, some cookies. I brought some Oreos.

So I put all that in this, this lean two. And, um, so we took a couple pictures of it and we rode

back, rode back to camp. And, uh, so a couple hours later, we get ready for the twilight ride.

And, uh, this is, this is where we have our sighting. So, so we go out, we go out past them at

Oh, nothing three rivers. Um, everything seems fine. Um, horses just moving right through it.

And this time we have, uh, we're riding Marcus and and this was the last year that Marcus could be

ridden. Uh, he had, uh, he had a, uh, a disease in his hooves. So this was his last time out there.

Um, I'm, I miss him. I miss beast mode. But anyways, uh, so, so we, we cross the rivers and we go up

and we're going up the backside of, uh, I call it scooking bridge. Um, so scooking, scooking

bridge is, uh, it's about a gosh, four or five thousand foot, um, rise off the floor of, of,

up from where those three rivers are. And it's all switchbacks. It's just really steep.

Trail's real narrow for most of it. Some places it spreads out. But for the most part, it's,

it's, you know, foot wide. And if you, for the most part, the dropoff is on the right side.

It switches back and forth a little. But if you drop off that hill, you're going to fall a couple

hundred feet before you hit your first tree. And it's, it's, it's like, it looks like about that.

I mean, it's just steep as hell. You wouldn't want to fall. It'd be bad. Um, and uphill side is

about the same. Um, so you're almost rubbing your elbow and parts going up this hill.

Same way as we, uh, we head up the hill and as soon as we get across the three rivers,

we start hearing something parallel on us. Um, you can hear it. Once we're all breaking a branch, um,

it sounds like stomping down below us. So, um, we're going up the ridge. Um, it sounds like it,

it passed us and got ahead of us and, and is coming around in front of us and we're kind of coming

up this way and it came around. Um, so then we're hearing something above us, um, on the ridge.

And these little tiny pebbles start flying down and, and they're hitting my front wheel.

So they're timing it because I'm going up a pretty steep ridge. I'm doing about eight miles an hour

on my bike. And they're timing it just right to hit my spokes. As I go it up this hill,

and these, and they keep hitting it too. Man, they hit it like four or five times in a row and I,

I have it all on camera. All of this is on GoPro. Um, so, so I'm getting these pebbles,

you know, I'm telling my girlfriend who's ahead of me. I'm getting these pebbles thrown at my

front wheel, you know, and, uh, and we're kind of laughing about it, you know, and I'm wearing a

fluorescent yellow shirt and, uh, we're making racket and laughing and stuff. Just trying to have

a good time and, uh, we know that attracts them. So we're doing it on purpose and, uh, we're going

up the trail and I'm making, uh, our, our fake bird calls all the way up, uh, to let the horse know

I'm either behind it or in front of it. So it's not scared when it come around a corner. But, um,

so anyways, we get, we get further up the trail and there's these really weird structures. I mean,

there's tree branches or not tree branches, but, uh, trees stacked in different types of pyramid

type structures. Not really something that, that, you know, you would sleep under type thing, but more

of, uh, uh, ambush kind of site for something coming up the trail. Um, you know, if a deer is coming

up the trail and you're sitting behind that, it may not see you. Um, so anyways, we're seeing those

that we're going, oh, okay, this is, this is getting weird because those weren't there last time.

So we keep, we keep going up the trail because I mean, we go up the trail every year. So we're going

up, going up the trail a little bit further and, uh, we're, at this time, we're probably about,

it's seven miles up to the top and, um, we're about five miles up and there's this, there's,

the trail comes up up a hill to a, to an outcrop, you know, from the side it would look like this

and the outcrop, um, almost goes over the trail and it's just, it's like, uh, on a 50 feet tall

or more. And again, I have, I have all this on camera and, um, on video. So, so we, we come up

around this corner and there's a switchback, right, right before this big outcrop starts in it's

probably on a 200 feet long about anywhere from 50 to 75 feet tall. So the horse just stops.

And this horse, I've, I've never seen it stop. We've had sightings on that horse and it,

and it just keeps moving. It doesn't lock up. Um, it locked up and locked up hard and I have it on

video. It's just staring straight ahead and it, it's not going forward and she, she tried and tried

to get it to go forward and it would not. And we're not seeing anything up the trail. So I,

I catch up, um, a little bit closer to her. I don't want to get too close because the horses,

it's probably going to have to maneuver and spin around. The horse is, is, is, is, is here. The

outcrop is here and the horse is just in front of it and the ridge next to the outcrop is steep. And

instead of wanting to go forward, the horse jumps up on the, on the hill there and spins around.

It starts walking up it and, and turns around and just comes downhill. It won't go any further.

And, um, again, I've never seen it do that before. So I'm thinking there's probably a cougar

up ahead or something. It's not a bear because, uh, he's not afraid of bears. He chases bears off.

I've seen him do it. But, um, there must be a cougar in there. That's the only thing I can think

that would stop him. And, uh, so I write up there and I got my video going and, um, there's,

I, I can't see anything. So, and it's, it's light enough, you know, that, that my camera,

if there's anything there, it probably picked it up. But, uh, I've not seen it with my eyes.

So the horse has turned around and it's, it's not staying there. It's, it's, it's made up its

mind. It's leaving in the, you know, my girlfriend can't stop it. It wants to go. So it's going.

So I'm looking out and I can see across the, the canyon right there. I can see,

I can see down this canyon. It's probably, I don't know, 4,000 feet to the bottom. And then I can

see this other ridge across from me that is probably, I don't know, five, six, six thousand feet.

So I'm looking over at it and I'm thinking, well, um, right now is as good a time as to

temp fade as any in. I got, you know, the big footers back at camp and I'm trying to lure these

things down so they can see them. So I decide to make some noise. So, um, I have the ability to whistle

extremely loud. If you're within 10 feet of me, it'll hurt your ears. So anyways, I do a couple

whistles across that canyon knowing that there's still something right there probably close to me.

And, uh, you know, no reply and no nothing. Um, don't hear anything. And the horse is starting to

get away from me. He's getting pretty far down hill. And so I turn and, and I start heading down

hill a little bit. Well, I come to a spot, maybe, I don't know, a couple hundred feet down from

that where I can see across the canyon again, because there's, there's an opening in the trees

on the lower hillside and the trees are, you know, 150 feet tall. So to get an opening, um, and,

only the tops of the trees are at my height, but there's a little bit of an opening there.

And I stop for a second because I have to cool my brakes. I have to cool my brakes about every

couple thousand feet because the hill's so steep, it heats them up and, um, I'll burn them out and

have no brakes if I don't do that. So I carry a water bottle and I douse the brakes. And I hear

what sounds like somebody took, um, a one ton Ford pickup truck and shoved it off the top of the,

that hill on the far side. And now it's going down through the trees just, I know, maybe a bulldozer

would be more of an accurate, but it, whatever it is is giant. It's making so much racket that

across this canyon, I could hear it going down the hill on the far side right directly towards me

down the hill. And then it starts coming up my side of the hill and I could hear it coming up my

side. I thought, well, if it was a boulder, it would have stopped at the bottom. Now it's coming up

my side and, and I'm up, you know, four, five thousand feet up. And it, it starts coming up like,

it got to about one thousand feet. And I'm like, I'm, I'm out of here. So, um, so I, I rolled down

the hill. I get caught up to where the horse is. Um, she tells me that she's, she's freaking out.

She says, um, right, right as I caught her, um, it goes from really steep to kind, you know, semi-steep

in spots, then really steep. Well, she came into a semi-steep area. And, and the trees are real thick

on the right side. Um, but not so thick on the left. And it's, you know, of course, a drop off.

She said, uh, something came out of the trees. Oh, well, something a big foot came out of the trees

and was running, uh, like at an angle in front of her across the trail and then jumped off the,

the cliff went downhill, made a big rock slide noise. And, and then every, all the noise just

stopped. And she said, the horse stopped it. It was just tripping. It didn't like that at all.

And, uh, and when I got there, um, I had to go first after that because the horse will follow me

on my bike, uh, because we trained together and, uh, all of our horses feel really safe around me

for some reason. Anyways, uh, so we, so I get, I'm in front of it and I'm just thinking,

well, crap, but I, you know, I have a point where it went down and I can see, I can see slide marks

on the side of the hill or something. So lid, I started to get dark. It was twilight. This is a

broad daylight. It's, it's starting to get fairly dark and we still have, you know, like three

miles to go before we hit the three rivers and then it's, you know, couple back to camp. And, um,

so, so we're going down the hill and I have to stop to cool my brakes off or else

they're destroying it and, you know, I have to put new brakes on which I don't bring with me.

And, um, so, so the horse finally starts to feel comfortable again, um, like a mile down, mile

and a half down. Um, I can still hear something parallel on us off to the left, but it's way down the

hill now. And, um, so we're starting to feel a little bit, you know, a little bit better. And, um,

so we get down to one of two landings that's on on this hill. There's, I call them a landing,

but it's, it's where the timber company, you know, 100 years ago cut a trail up around this,

this hill, you know, like it five miles up and I think it's six miles up, something like that.

Anyways, give or take. So anyways, we come to one of those, I call it a landing and my brakes,

I could smell them. I mean, they're, they're just so hot and, um, I put water on it instantly

vaporizes. And again, I have all of this is on camera. I'm, I got my GoPro rolling and, uh,

I, I think I put a fresh battery in it right then. I usually have 45 minutes per battery in 4K.

And, um, so I put a fresh battery in it and everything was working fine. Um, and meanwhile,

while I'm sitting still, these rocks are flying, little pebbles are flying and hitting the brush.

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It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's

largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. Um, I think I saw Billboard

years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is insane number.

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north probably closer to 22, 23 after

this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully

keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone do in contact with Morgan

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Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you. Just 20 feet from me. And I can see it ripping

through the leaves of the brush. And I'm going, honey, look, they're tossing pebbles at us again.

And she goes, well, we should go. So horse is pretty spook, but he's calmed down quite a bit.

And so, and again, I have I have this on camera. You can see the rocks hitting and hitting the

brush and stuff. So, so we we we come the rest of the way down this hill and you know, it's switched

back up to switch back and there's some straightaways, but it's steep. I stop a few more times.

Still hearing movement, but it seems like it's further off.

So, we get down to the first of the three rivers that we have to cross and there's a rock

face that's on no

less than a hundred feet away. And it's probably 75 feet tall. And she crossed the water.

I'm I'm in the middle of it. And then we hear a whoop from the top of the outcrop. So,

it was within a hundred feet watchiness. And I look up and you know, I got I got the camera

because it's on my I word on my hat. I'm looking up and the camera might have caught it, but I didn't

see anything. So, so I'm you know, I got paid attention to what I'm doing and I may or may not

have dropped my bike. I can't remember. I drop it all the time and things just clumsy, but you know,

and it weighs 110 pounds. So, it's a big fat tire bar with one horse motor electric motor

and a big battery. So, anyways, I'm trying to keep moving though. You know, we want to get out of

there. Obviously, they're either just messing with us just to see what our reaction is or they

want us out of there either way we're leaving. So, so we crossed the three rivers and the the last

one, the one closest to camp is the deepest and the widest and just get across that and now the

metal where we have all these sightings will shortly be on our left. There's a ton of skunk

cabbage right in there. But to our right, here a tree get pushed over. And it was it was close enough

that we could feel it. Felt it through the ground and I'm thinking I just got that on camera.

No, I check I'm looking at my camera when I got back to camp and my batteries died. So, I just put

them in like 20 minutes before that, you know, half hour tops and they should have gone for 40.

Now, dead is a door now and and it was dead. I think before the whoop it died right before before

that water crossing, which sucks. And then and I have a rear camera off the back of my bike that I

pointed up hill. I think that one was still running. I'll have to check, but I think it died at the

point where the tree crashed. So, so both cameras dead both had good batteries can explain it.

So, anyways, so so we get back to camp. It's pitch black. I'm talking with the guys and I'm telling

them what happened. And and one of the guys has a theory that when the trees get pushed over,

it's a noise that the big foot can make. Somehow it it mocks the tree cracking breaking and falling.

And I heard it crack break and fall. And I'm like, I don't I don't know about that, you know,

and he's low. It's in and done their dimension sometimes or whatever. And I'm well, I haven't seen

other dimensions. I haven't, you know, the the whole we thing, I'm not I don't really don't

care one way or another on it. I just haven't witnessed anything like that. Doesn't mean it doesn't

exist. You know, there's a lot of things I haven't seen. You know, I haven't seen a space X rocket

launch in person. It doesn't mean they're not there. So so anyways, and my girlfriend,

she gets feelings that around animals and stuff and around these things too. She gets she gets

feelings that I mean, I can I can talk about in a different video. But so anyways, we we get back

to camp and we're talking about that. And I'm like, no, I felt it hit the ground, you know, and

and I could see a bunch of brush moving around when it crashed and it was it was you know,

a hundred feet away when it hit and it's really thick trees through there and it and tons of

brush that's like, you know, five to 10 feet tall in spots. But I saw all that move around like

something just hit right there. And it was so close. I mean, we got we got out and you know,

I probably should wear microphones or something when I go up there. So you get at least get the

sound off of this stuff and maybe that's I'll write that down. That's not what I can do. But

so anyways, so we get back to camp. Oh, by the way, we go by the teepee that Tom and I built earlier

and it's still there. So hadn't been touched. Apple's nothing. So the next morning, my my girlfriend

goes out in that night. One of the guys said, Hey, you want to go back down there and it's dark now.

And I'm like, Oh, I'm not it pushed the tree over. I think it made its intentions known.

I think I'm good. I don't want a tree pushed over on me and that one was pretty close. I'm good.

You know, you go ahead though. Here you can borrow my yellow shirt. They're like, no, no, no. So

so anyways, next day, my girlfriend and some of the girls from camp decide they're going to go down

to the river. Just walk the horses because horses just love being walked and they walk out there

and that teepee that we made was gone. It wasn't smashed the ground. It wasn't torn apart like an

animal with tear apart for food. It was gone like completely gone like no sign of it gone.

Apple's the bag the the salmon pieces with the two bags salmon was in all of it gone.

And and so she told me that and and she took pictures and you can see it's not there anymore.

Not just it's gone. So later in the afternoon, I got got my my I don't know what

my my mojo back and I decided, okay, well, I'm going to go down there and just look at it where I'm

just going to wear the teepee. I'm not crossing the frickin river anymore. Not not on that trip. So

so I I go back and I look and I found a couple of the sticks that they were thrown in like opposite

directions and I found I think I found three of the ten and and they were on a 30 40 feet away

from where that was. So if it was a bear knocking it over it would it just torched it you know

tore stuff up right there it wouldn't have you know took a one limb over here another limb over

there one here one there it wouldn't have scattered things to the four winds and I'm pretty sure

the baggies would be somewhere close by but but the apples not a sign of the apples and I

think I had like three or four on there. I had these little little plastic horses that I bought

I bought a bag of like 200 of them they're different colors and I had those on it those were even

gone. So they took the toys and you know maybe a crow would do that I don't know you know maybe a

bear got yeah I'm trying to think of what you know what could have happened but I'm pretty sure

a bear wouldn't want a plastic toy and so so anyways so so that happened and that that was

the end of 23 and and we come back home. Any questions on 23 I'll tell 24 if yeah real quick

this is this is up on your YouTube channel like that whole journey right in 20.

It may be some of it may be I have all this video on on on a hard drive and and my more

recent rides are on this laptop I just bought Christmas it's got 64 gig and it's it's I built

it to build a load stuff up so it will be on my YouTube channel and you know the next month or two

I'll I'll put all these up and and one thing about my videos too is I'm basically just trying to

show the raw footage I'm I'm not there to pick certain parts out or anything I just I just show

the whole thing and people say oh well I saw shadows here or I see something there in the background

they'll see stuff that you know I haven't really sat down and and looked through each piece by piece

um I'm I'm I'm not I'm not in this to to be world renowned and I'm not in it to um you know

obviously make money or else I'd have everything up and and you know be dialed in right

um some of my videos have had three quarter of a million hits though and and and and which is not

and and it's and it's just again raw footage I'm you know I'm not I'm not talking about much

that the you know hey I was here a couple years ago and I saw this it's it's actual life footage

of me going up in this happening um so it's it's um it's um it times again I wonder what I'm doing

um sometimes um I'm you know just the fear is just almost overwhelming and you know I I don't

know maybe that's it maybe it's the adrenaline from doing all this but I think uh after 2024

I think it's kind of stupid to go up there anymore but um at least up the backside we'll we still

go up the front it's less dangerous but um let me get to um what I call the Odyssey 2 so so um in

in 2019 I called it the Odyssey because you know we spent like four or five hours going up and down

scooking bridge and the second half you know coming down um you know we were harassed and

and uh had multiple sightings my girlfriend saw four of them well five of them counting the one

we saw together and um you know it was just crazy up there everything that was happening so I

call that one an Odyssey more so than than just a trek you know why we're we're we're having a

sighting um but in 2024 we had another Odyssey this one um this one's scary and my girlfriend will

never go up that trail again because of what happened and I don't blame her she she almost died so

so here's here's what happened on that one in 2024 uh we go back again birthday weekend in July

and um you know we set up our corrals and and uh our friends are coming in uh within hours of that

um uh Joe B. Larton and uh my my friend John and and and and invited a couple other people one of

the engineers from work that I work with um I wanted to come up and so we invited a few people up

but we got there uh about I'd say probably two hours before anybody else did and we have this uh we

have this brand new horse trailer it's just it's amazing it's got a like a like a I want to say

12 foot slide out and and you know 18 foot living quarters with giant over uh hitch bed and you

know it's the things it's like being in a hotel it's just amazing and three horses in the back

and um so anyways we're we pulled and we set it in place and while I'm outside uh leveling it

and uh um getting I got a standby generator so we can charge your batteries before dark and stuff

while I'm out out taking care of stuff um I hear about 200 feet back in the tree line um a child

talking and it's it's moving so as I face the tree line and I'm back at my trailer as I face

the tree line it's moving um through the trees um I would have to be jogging to move it the

rate it was moving through the trees but it was talking um I heard it talk for on a probably a minute

or two and it had the high-pitched child voice crystal clear couldn't understand it word um don't

know what language never heard it before you know wasn't Asian wasn't Arabic wasn't wasn't this

that or the other thing and um you know wasn't like I mean maybe a cross between Asian and Native

American if it was anything but it was a small child and no other voices just this one and it

moved across at a speed that I mean I'd have to jog to to carry that much speed through the trees

and I just I thought okay well I kept listening I'm waiting for an adult to reply back to the kid

or or something and the area we're out there's no humans for a couple of miles we're we're the only

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a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan which is America's largest injury law firm. That's

pretty awesome um I think I saw Billboard years recently that said that 20 billion one 20

millions insane number. Yeah 20 billion recovered it's actually I think somewhere north probably

closer to 22 23 after this year and each year we get bigger and batter and our army grows so the

number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does

someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What what would I do if I got into an accident?

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sign of any cars any people and there's no trail back there it's just solid trees there's a trail

that that dissects it well a couple of trails that dissect it right and half in a couple spots

but nothing that goes in the direction that the voice was going nothing. So it was just really

strange. So that started the Odyssey too. So um I'm I'm gonna look down and again I so much

happened I I took notes at the time so I'm just gonna I'm gonna uh take a look um so this year

we're riding a different horse we have two and we've been racing the two together and um you know

they won first place in the northwest in 2019 out of 400 horses we're we're serious about endurance

riding um it's it's it's it's a hobby and we go that's why we go in the forest you know pretty much

every weekend and on weekdays we ride out in the forest from our house so uh which is in the forest

so anyways um we took our second horse up her name's Bella um Bella's Bella's pretty amazing she's

fairly fearless but she gets spooked easy sometimes so anyways um we we decide we're gonna do a

Friday twilight ride and and we go to the three rivers and she's been across it several times

she's been up the hill too if she she knows the game uh she knows what we're up to she knows

we're training we're we're we're doing this so we get her to the three rivers and and she won't

even put a foot in the first first bit of water she's staring straight across at at a group of trees

that are right there and they have brush that goes up about five feet tall into them and there's

other trees I mean the whole bank is trees but this is a real thick patch so she's staring at that

and she won't move she's just kind of frozen for a bit and then she starts dinking around a little

bit she won't she won't move forward can't get her to go forward and so I catch up and I ask

what's up and horse won't go forward gonna have to turn around okay so you know it's a couple

miles back to camp and and uh we decide well hey um we can't go up this back trail up scooking

bridge let's let's let's go up the front trail you know it's a lot wider especially at the base um

and uh there's a lot less activity that happens up that side a lot less but it still happens

so we we start we we pass through camp we tell people what we're doing and we head up we head up

this other trail so we're we're heading up the trail and it's starting to get into switch back

up to switch back we came off off the kind of flat lands it kind of has a dip and then it goes

it starts going up you know the multiple ridges up here um but there's switch back after switch

back we start heading up that and we're probably I don't know probably a mile mile and a half up

up it away from camp and and um start hearing um owl noises you know woo woo but they're they're

they're up the hill and they're actually moving towards us as we as we keep going uphill it's like

on it like it's coming right at us as we go switch back after switch back well it's kind of coming

down towards us and it gets louder and louder and then instead of woo woo woo it's yeah yeah

like a whole different noise but louder kind of kind of off owl um just not right and it keeps getting

closer and now it's within a couple hundred feet of us it came off of uh you know two thousand

foot ridge um that's right before the the big the big ridge and it came off of that and uh the

horse just slammed on its brakes and it would not move forward um going up that ridge and not only

would not go forward but it started kicking a little bit it got upset and spun around and started

heading heading downhill and the I mean there's no stopping it it's it's leaving and she's trying

to pull it rain it in and get it to you know slow down behave runs by me I'm off to the side I move

off to the side of the trunks I saw what was happening and it runs by me and again I I have all

of this on camera but um so the owl still going up above me it's just making strange noises and

I'm kind of looking around and I'm seeing just odd trees fallen in spots that I I'm seeing the

top of a tree but I don't see the bottom of it and and like it was broke off or something and

and then placed there from uh nowhere close bikes I couldn't find the bottom of it so I'm looking

around I'm starting to get the creeps and um I'm and the owl noise is getting louder it's getting

closer and I I start to go down the hill so we make it to the bottom of the hill and you can still

hear the owls coming behind us down this ridge um you can still hear it coming in and um it's now

half the distance from camp from where we were up the hill and you can hear it in camp

um I was voices don't carry that far but you could hear it and it went on for an hour or so

right from that same spot um so so that was that was Friday night and uh you know we we have uh we

put up game cams I put them around the horses mainly because they uh it it gamecans tend to

repel these things and so I want my horses to be safe and so we put those up you know I can't

wait up all night with them and protect them so um so I put these cameras out well the girlfriend

from you know two years before came up with this the one that had her hair smelled and she will no

longer sleep in a tent um she had her SUV and had a bed in the back and um told her about you know

what happened with the horse and she goes should I just leave and we're going but you know you're

going to be safe in your car but um let me I told her let me put a game cam right in front of the

car that shines all you know so I can see all around it with that game cam and they'll leave they'll

leave you alone and uh and and they did they they left her alone um didn't leave us alone but

they left her alone and I'll I'll get to that but so um so on Saturday everybody was interested

in seeing you know hey maybe there's some signs up there you know so um John and the engineer

myself uh the girlfriend my girlfriend um I just a bunch of us walk up that frontside trail

and it's you know broad daylight probably one or two in the afternoon beautiful summer day

and it's again old growth thickest trees are really big and thick and I absolutely dropped

out gorgeous out there it's like it's what you people think of when they think of Oregon just green

and lush and beautiful so we're walking walking back up this hillside and not quite as intimidating

in the daylight so um pretty fun we're walking up and we see these odd trees we're trying to figure out

and I got out on cam we're trying to figure out well where did this one come from where did that

one come from because they're broke off and you know the wind probably snapped them off who knows

but they're not where they should have fell they're you know hundred feet up the hill or whatever

so so we're laughing about it and everything and we get about a mile up maybe mile and a half

about to the point where we turned around the night before and everybody says well hey let's go

back to camp and eat lunch because we hadn't eaten yet so the mob heads down the hill with the horse

were walking a horse with us and and uh wonder I think yeah I think we just had had bill at that time

so they're walking off down the hill and I stay behind and I'm on my I'm on my bike I'm I'm just

hanging out and I let him get a good 15 minute head start and I just sat there and just listened

and the trees are the winds slightly blowing through the trees and stuff well on that side of the

hill you got a whole different canyon that goes across and and you can see north and there's a

there's a big valley and there's this river that passes through it that eventually joins into

the sandy but a huge valley I mean it's I don't know mile across or more and there's a ridge on

the far side that's not real tall it's probably you know 3000 feet tall I'm I'm about at the height

that it's at on the hillside here on this thing when I first heard it and what I heard was I heard

a tree pushed over and then it sounded like it rolled all the way down the hill through trees

a brush and I mean again that bulldozer sound of something just going end oh you know bulldozer

going end over and down a hill is what it sounds like just crash boom crash crash crash and I'm

hearing it clear across this valley and I'm I'm just oh crap I've heard that before and so it gets

down to the bottom uh crosses the river I can't see it of course because there's too thick and

it starts heading up the hill towards me and I'm I'm starting to uh get a horrible feeling

of you know a little bit of terror which I get around these things I'm not not not not an

extremely brave person but I could tolerate quite a bit of stuff to try and you know get a goal

and my goal was to get one on on video and I'm thinking no this thing sounds way too big I

why can't why can't I see little ones you know and um and and it's just crashing up this hill and

it's getting closer and closer at the rate it's moving it's going to be on top of me probably in

on of three or four minutes it's it's it's it's it's moving fast and uh I'm like okay I'm

I'm bugging out I'm done and all the way up the hill I brought those little horses I was telling you

about yeah I brought I brought those little horses with me and and an apple and I said an apple

down there with a horse in it and and I dropped a horse going down the hill every hundred feet or

so because I had a big bag of them um so I'm moving I'm moving down the hill and it changes course on

a intersection course to me and it gets it and I'm now I'm like a half a mile up away from from

the flats and the main big fat trail that's really close to comes out on the road right by camp

and I'm feeling pretty good about myself because I made pretty good time but this thing had come

up and and it changed course it was coming right at me and uh and then it just stopped in the tree

line like uh I don't know a couple a couple hundred feet back but I get here at crashing all up to

that point and then it just goes dead silent right so I was tripping out on it getting so close to

me that I missed my turn the on the trail that goes to the car so I got to go further through the

woods before I hit the next turn that goes to my car and I'm like oh crap so um nothing happened

but um I finally I finally came out you know on the road and was able to get back to our our roadside

corral set up in our camp site so um so that that that was a pretty interesting um afternoon so

now it gets to twilight and uh we're we're all set to go up um you know for

2019 on we've been going and this is 2024 we've been going up this back trail at twilight

and um a majority of the time when we come back down there's activity in and around camp at night

and I'm you know I got these pretty famous people with me and I'm I'm trying to accommodate them

you know um and bring something into camp for them if I can you know I'm bait basically

and um my girlfriend's okay with it she really um up to this point didn't really fear these things too

much uh in though she's seen you know at this point she'd seen like five of them or six of them

and um so anyways uh you know I got camera rolling on my hat I got one rolling on the back of the

bike and um we head out and the horses in front of me we head out and then I get in front of it

and we're heading down past the meadow nothing in the meadow we get to the rivers not much at the

rivers just just quiet we cross the river and it starts up again they're tromping in the

and the hillside below us on the right and we're going up up these windy trails and it's you know

steep and um we're seeing something different that we'd never seen before um in a past video I

told you that they had jam sticks through these stumps that are right next to the trail I mean they're

they're actually physically within a foot of the trail and it's a cliff drop off right there

and they shove these sticks into the stumps where I couldn't pull them out I couldn't work

them back and forth they can get them out and they're about that big around some of them are 10

foot tall some of them are are six foot tall well it looks like the forest service had come

through and cut all five of those stumps off and I have I have those stumps with the sticks on video

and now I have the stumps gone on video um so that wasn't the weird part though the weird part was

this apparently the forest service for some reason how it felt they had the need to put signs

up along the side of the trail that said do not go beyond this point um protected area do not go

beyond this point well for five years those haven't been there right so I see one of them and it's

it's facing you know right there well you can't miss it they don't want you going up the up

this hillside you know where these things are at basically so we come around a corner and there's

40 more of them facing the wrong way jammed into a hillside in this gully that you couldn't

walk up it I mean it's way too steep and they're just jammed one after another all the way up through

this gully facing the wrong way um some of them are bent a little bit but every single one of them's

facing the wrong way up this gully and I'm thinking why would the forest service do that you know

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visit for the people dot com for an office near you oh that's what what a waste you know I know

they didn't do it but I'm just saying what a waste so um apparently these things don't like those

signs and they're not going to have it up their hillside so that they gathered them all and shoved

them in the ground and I mean they're they're in the freaking ground they put them away and when

they shoved them in all the way up this it's a crevice that kind of comes together up the hill and

it's I mean it's it's really steep in there all the way up this and you like I said you couldn't

walk up that so I anyways it just defies imagination how they got there so um we're we're going okay

well let's let's keep rolling so we roll up about another a couple miles I'm and um still hearing

something moving below and then it kind of this it kind of sounds like it veered off and it headed

out and it's not not parallel in the same way it just goes dead silent well we come up to this

we're coming up this ridge we're doing switchbacks and and steep and steep climbs and we get we get

up to a switchback and there's a stump right here that is probably I don't know 10 12-feet tall I

got I have it on camera it's about three feet around probably um fairly fresh cut on it um it

looks like the top broke off of it though it if I remember right the the top was broke off but it

was fairly flat across the top now I bet maybe mistaken maybe it was cut I don't know but I thought

I saw a little a little bit of jagged pieces on it on top of that is a rock stack stack of rocks

there's like five or six of them and they go from big to small at the top and about halfway up

from the ground there's a tree limb probably about that big around and about and I think it's about

10 feet long and it shoved right through the side of that tree right right dead center across it

I mean through it and and it's sticking out the other side um there there's no explanation

for that I mean I went up to it couldn't move it I mean there's yeah good luck explaining that one

and that that wood was not really that rotten on the stump it was still a fairly solid stump

so we we took pictures of it and I got it on video of course because I'm running camera

and on GoPro and I got it I think I's running 2k or 4k but anyways um my girlfriend behind me goes

look at this and I turn around and there's like 20 or 30 and the more you look the more you see

these little rock piles and they look just like the big one up on the stump but they're half that

size and they're up the hillside off the trail on the left and there some of them are hidden behind

the ferns and I mean there's tons of ferns in there and some aren't um just standing at the trail

you could probably see 15 or 20 of them but when you look in the ferns there's that many more

all over this corner on this on this turn that goes up this hill and we're just like wow you

know the more you look the more you see and we're we're thinking well you know is this a nursery

or something where kids were playing and you know somebody's dad showing off or whatever but um

we're just wow this is you know got it all on camera again so and a few still shots but we

decide well let's let's keep going up we're losing light and uh it's the sun had gone over the

ridge so it's starting to get to that point where you have you know just past the golden hour you

probably got about half hour or maybe 40 minutes of light left before it gets dark enough you

you can barely see the trail or can't see it at all so so we still have quite a bit of light left

we think because you know we figure we could be down to the three rivers at about 20 minutes um

so we we head up further up the hill we get about a half mile above that that

stump and um and the hills really steep in there it's it's probably almost at a 45 maybe

maybe steeper than a 45 and it comes down to the trail the trails flat and then it another 45

off the other side bunch of old growth you know up hill and downhill but the trees are you know

100 feet away from the trail on the downhill side so just the tops of them are kind of level with

us um and you know when they go up 50 feet above you know where we're at up and anyways um I'm just

kind of kind of setting the scene here for this so we come up we come up this trail and it's a

straightaway that goes for a several hundred feet and and so it's a straightaway and I'm looking

up it and I'm out front on my e-bike and we just crossed about a three-foot tall log

that was crossed later it fell across the path further down I had to lift my bike over it the

horse had a step over it and that was that was probably 500 feet below um I'm guessing about 500 feet

below uh where we where we were at right here so we we stop or I stop because I'm ahead of me on

the on this narrow trail that we're staying on that's it's probably about I don't know a foot wide

and then it drops starts to drop and and you got your uphill side on this trail there's about

and I don't have to look at the video I'm guessing maybe five or six logs laying across it

that are are some of them are that big around some are that big around and and maybe a smaller one

or two but they're kind of interlaced with each other and they're about 10 feet long some of them

are shorter but they're all interlaced so like if you touch one the whole thing's gonna go down the

hill and there's nowhere to put them so like if I if I if I pull them off it's gonna be some of

them are so heavy I don't know that I can lift them but but they're um it's gonna be hard to set

them up hill and not have the rest of them fall off the ridge right there because they're like

supporting each other it was just it's like a booby trap it was the strangest thing um so

again I got all this on camera so I'm I'm I'm looking at this and I look back at my girlfriend

who comes up behind me on the horse and I tell her hey baby um this is bad we can't move forward

with these in the trail I got to move them and when I move them the way they're intertwined you know

there's a chance they're gonna roll off this ridge you know and I don't want to just roll them off

the ridge because because if I roll them off the ridge I'm having a lighting problem which is

weird this battery should last like 10 hours anyways um so I have to I have to lift them up and set

them on the uphill side straight up and down so if I put them in an angle they're just gonna roll off

so um so I tell her you know one should back the horse up a ways and um I'm just afraid these

are gonna roll some brace for it because the horse gets startled pretty easy right so I go to move

the first the first piece and I just get it up off the others and the whole thing goes off the hill

and it makes I mean it sounds like all hell broke loose it sounds like I rolled up a Toyota pickup

truck down the hill I just crash boom and they're going end over end and and just through the brush

a hundred feet down that starts to slow them down and they just keep going and it made

the biggest racket I mean if you wanted to make the most racket you can that's what you would do

um so the horse I'm I'm afraid she's gonna get hurt so I look back at her and the horse is kind of

dancing a little bit and and then it decides it wants to turn around so it puts a couple feet

up on the upper bank and then turns around and starts heading down she slows the horse and gets

it turned around and starts coming back up the trail so at this point um she's probably 50 feet behind

me on the trail and well now the logs are gone so trails open so I get on my bike and I start to

head up the trail a little bit so she she comes up to about where the logs were and I'm I'm

probably 75 feet out in front of her on a GoPro it looks like a lot more because GoPro shoot wide

vision so anyways it looks like I'm a lot further but I'm not and all of a sudden on the hillside

above me like about a 150 feet up I hear pop pop pop like a tree breaking right so on the first

pop I look up hill and this is what I see I see a big foot shoving a tree over and it was probably

9 to 10 foot tall massive just massive um some people say you know they look like a bodybuilder

they come in at a V this one had a little bit of V to it but I mean it was you know it looked like

it was about four feet around and giant giant legs on it and arms huge arms and I watched it go

like this this and then shove it and what it did was there was a old snag there um you know a

snag is a tree that maybe the top broke off and so the bottom kind of rotted up well the snag was

on a 30 40 feet tall and it broke it off right right at its base and shoved it over it went push

push push and I watched it do the the the two pushes before it shoved it and it and it completely

broke off and made a pop I wanted it finally broke and and the tree fell down and and the tree was

pointed right at our horse and it was far enough up the hill when the tree hit the ground it kind

of bounced and slid slid down towards the horse um it still stopped maybe 50 feet away 75 feet

away um I don't know if that was its intention or not but that's what happened and the horse tripped

it reared up um my girlfriend almost came off the back of it and it went down it reared up again

and again I have all this on camera um but I almost watched my girlfriend die right there

and uh it was uh it is really hard to watch and uh freaking light um and so luckily the horse

it it kept landing on the uphill side of the trail they got it didn't step one step backwards

in it would they would both be dead and uh it it we rear up come down land rear up come down land

and and it was trying to turn around and point downhill once it got pointed downhill gone

and I'm I'm just standing there uh I'm stunned by what happened I wasn't

like like terrified stunned I was just like my girlfriend almost died stunned

and then all of a sudden this the terror comes over me you know I'm stuck up here horses gone

I'm up I'm up on this hillside and what am I doing man why is this worth it you know

and and what do I do next and I thought well I brought these apples with me

and uh I have them I have them in a front pack of bag on my bike and I pulled out an apple

and I took one of those toys and I shoved it in the apple and I shoved the apple on a stick that was

sticking up and I started going down the trail um a little ways further down um I just dropped

an apple on the trail and I dropped a couple of these toys here and there I just trying to give

them something besides me to focus on and uh I can hear it um when it after it pushed the tree

down it turned and went up the hill it it went up the opposite direction of where I was at so it

was if she's here and it's right above her I was further up the trail over here and so it was

up here it walked off that way which would be our downhill above our downhill descent so it

went into the trees up there and I mean it's like it just disappeared like in three steps it was gone

and um I can hear it moving around up there and it's not happy it's breaking brush and stuff and

it's it's walking along that ridge headed downhill and I could tell it's walking because it's not

moving that fast but neither is the horse because there's the log laying across the trail a little

ways down got my light completely went out how strange we get down to where this log was across

the path it was you know several hundred feet down five hundred feet I don't know it is a ways

down from the the mess we just saw and um the horse wouldn't cross the log and that horse never

stops at a log but it didn't want to cross this one it didn't want to go first and you know

down below it's a switch back and I'm hearing noise down below and my girlfriend's like you you

got to get out ahead because the horse absolutely is not moving forward it's just sitting there

spinning around in front of this big log and so I carry my bike over the top of the log I set an

apple down uphill and uh drop some toys by the log and the horse came over the top and and then

down it went so we're going down the hill and I'm hearing the crashing in the trees above us

now I'm hearing it below us and uh you know it's a couple hundred feet down the hill below us a couple

hundred feet up the hill above us and it's just thick with trees in there and I mean you can see

on my video what it's like um but we get uh we get down to the river the first of three I hear

I hear a whoop up above on the rock ledge that's up up above the river up to the right and um we

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I think I saw billboarded years recently it said that 20 billion one 20 million is an insane number

yeah 20 billion recovered it's actually I think somewhere north probably closer to 22 23 after

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keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on awesome so how does someone get in contact with

Morgan and Morgan what what would I do if I got into an accident probably the easiest way is

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visit for the people dot com for an office near you I'm like it was it was so weird because

some of these times in it you know thinking back this has happened before it's so quiet that

like even my footsteps sound muffled and I don't know what's going on but I mean when it goes

quiet it is frickin quiet and it's almost like you have headphones on too and and can't hear your

own movement you know and things around you it's it's just strange so anyways it was like that

all the way back to camp so we get back to camp and I'm my girlfriend's she's like I'll never

go up there again they you know almost killed me this time so we're not again me and the horse

word we're not no more no more up that side she says she'll go up the front side because it feels

more friendly when she goes up there and she she has these this feeling she she under around

animals horses different things she she can sense you know if they're happy or not and she's saying

on that backside there's no happiness at all so so she'll do the front still I just say that

because I'm trying to get you to go up someday with me but anyways so so we get back to camp and

and I'm telling the story about what happened and I'm I'm a I'm discombobulated I'm I'm upset

and I'm telling these guys you know the things almost killed us you know this sucked I watched it

you know push this tree over and I you know one guy in the group so well they can do that you

know they can make that noise you know with their mouth or whatever and I'm like dude I watched it

push the tree over I saw it do it this this ain't a noise out of something's mouth the tree almost

hit my horse and and as well you know who combed down combed down you know you want to walk back

down to the river no I don't want to go down to the rivers no no you can wear my shirt here here's

my shirt you can be you can ride my bike take my shirt you can be that guy I'll let you oh I'm

not gonna do that I'm like okay then I guess I guess we have an understanding so anyways I

I was I was pretty upset as distraught pretty bad that one that one that one made me feel like

I just probably as close to one of these things taking us out as as as ever and I'm not so sure

how pleasant these things are anymore and you know it just kind of shook me up really bad

and and so that night our our friend my my friend John he has this big gosh I think it's

Australia's shopper great great big biggest one I've ever seen she's getting a little bit up

in the age though and it was we weren't sure because clouds started coming in we weren't sure if

it's gonna be wet or not and so I told them well why don't you sleep under our big awning that

you know I have this 30 foot awning that comes off the side of our trailer so why don't you why don't

you go ahead and sleep under that and that way if it rains you'll be dry and and and you know

everything will be good and he says okay yeah that sounds great so we we tire out you know we eat

food not really hearing any noises around camp that is just dead silent all the rest of the night

so I have I have this I ray this is a heat vision 50 millimeter this thing I it it a couple

hundred yards I can tell how many points are on a deer it's extremely extremely great lens

anyways I put it on a tripod and I aim it right at our horses I have yet to play video from that

night off of that thing but we've seen weird things in the past at night that that picks up heat

signatures that are just odd and I guess what I'm getting at is I have that point now the side that

the that the awnings on I have it set up on a tripod recessed back in the trailer so nobody would

know it's there it's behind the window but the windows open that night we've got to sleep wake up

the next morning and I go out to unplug the generator and something pissed on the side of our

trailer on the opposite side for more my friend was sleeping and I have pictures of it it's at

least a gallon of piss and it it pissed like eight feet in the air is where the top marks are

but you can see it sprayed in one spot pretty much up and then it Niagara down and you can see

it was yellow you I mean you can see it was piss but it peed all over the side of the trailer I

guess it was showing us you know hey got your while you're sleeping or whatever but it marked us

and so anyways so that was the end of 2024 and and the takeaway on 2024 was now we don't go up

that back trail at least she won't with the horse I'm I'm trying to get up if I find somebody that

that can first of all hike that far out and then go up the hill on top of that crossing three

rivers I'll I'll take them up there but I'm not going to go that far up I'll go up a ways but

I just it creeps me out now too much and but I'll go up the front side you know and if somebody else

has a e-bike you know a four you know a four inch fat tire that can climb like mine does I'll take

them you know as far as they want to go but so anyways the takeaway from that was these things

are not safe anymore and you really got to watch yourself around them you know it was a sight

scene thing before it kind of isn't that anymore now that this happened we're just and and maybe

you know it's intention wasn't to have her go off the cliff but it wasn't smart enough to know

that that would happen if if it's intention was to not do that and I just you know she's not

going to risk her life to go up and see these things so I don't and I don't blame her but that

been in 2024 real quick I don't only have a few minutes in 2025 we went back not much happened

just real quick and in 25 this last summer went up stayed in a different place I did have

another sighting went out at twilight on a Friday riding my bike back I saw two looking through

the brush at the meadow which I've never seen them do that before their heads were like the

size of watermelons and jet black and at two in the morning that night I heard a voice and it sounded

just like my friend but John and I heard John's voice say a sentence crystal clear just right outside

my window of of our trailer and next morning I asked John hey were you messing around it two in the

morning he's like oh no I slept through last night but so something mimicked his voice perfectly

I am perfect and I thought was John scooting around outside but it wasn't so that's what happened

in 25 so in 26 we're going back Joby Lart will be there inviting Tom Powell he may or may not

go depending on what he's up to always invite Cliff Berrickman he's he's kind of an old contact

for me and and I try to try to get new people but it's hard to find somebody that is open-minded

enough to go up there to see these things and you know it's now I realize it's it's not a sight

scene tour it's not a game anymore it's you you're on a mission when you're up there and you

got to be careful it's there's no telling what these things will do and like I said I've seen them

throw boulders up in trees and do different things push trees over it's it's not real safe

I just it's not it's like after you have that 2024 situation yeah your your entire mindset would

have to be different that it's kind of like there was a line that was crossed you just got to be

really aware of what could happen exactly exactly it tricked me out now for if you'll have me back

one more time I do I have some other scary for the lack of other words encounters that I know of

other people had I'd love to have you back on definitely the main question I have before we

before we uh and and our time uh is if you experience that in 2024 uh why what's your what's

your main goal in in going back now that you know I mean that's that's a that's a really traumatic

experience almost seeing your girlfriend and her horse pretty much uh be done on the side of that

hill yeah um I don't know you know I why did I go back after 2019 um it's just there's something

about the mystery of these things that I I just uh um you know first of all I like to come

come robbery of my friends being with me when I go up there and we we get caught up on current

events um you know big foot events um but um that that one I got caught on camera pushing the tree

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that's pretty awesome um I think I saw billboard of yours recently that said that 20 billion

one 20 million insane number yeah 20 billion recovered it's actually I think somewhere north probably

closer to 22 23 after this year and each year we get bigger and better and our army grows so the

number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on awesome so how does

someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan what what would I do if I got into an accident probably

the easiest way is dialing pound law that's pound five two nine from your cell phone we are always open

our call centers always waiting to take your call 247 365 wow Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan

America's largest injury law firm thanks for coming by the show thanks for having me visit for

the people dot com for an office near you it was back behind two other trees and and go pro suck

and it looks like a blob squash you can see the tree come down and stuff and you know of somebody

with better video capability than me can probably get a much better picture but you know I thought wow

this beast the crap out of the Patterson Gimlin film I mean it's hands down I was way closer

and because it wasn't you know a eight millimeter film it was a POS GoPro it turns out all

blobby you know it's just digital sucks but I guess in the end for some reason I want to get video

confirmation undeniable video confirmation for me if nothing else you know I'm not trying to make

a million bucks or nothing I just you know I haven't made any money to this point we just

race horses and this is a side hobby of what us going up there um but uh yeah I guess I just want

I just want video um because the engineers I work with uh they're like oh BS BS I'm like really

bring your brown pants I'll take you someplace uh I'll take you someplace you've never seen before

and uh they're all sucks no it's such a it's it's a wild wild like the whole story is incredible

when you you you look at the entire thing after hearing all the experiences it's just such an

interesting account and uh yeah Gary we will we'll definitely uh have you you back on to to go

over what you've heard from other areas as well and I'm excited to see what comes out of this

area in in the future as well thank you for for hanging out with us uh one more time Gary I do

appreciate it my my pleasure have you ever heard all the accounts of big foot activity around

Oak Ridge Oregon and you think to yourself man I would love to get out in those woods and experience

it for myself well guess what this year you can if this is interesting to you stay tuned because

it's pretty cool Sasquatch summary fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th 2026 it's going to

be even better than the previous years reason number one I'll be one of the speakers it's going to

be wild I'll probably I'll say this there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because

let's just say sometimes it's uh well you just gotta be there we'll leave it that more about

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at the booth in Oak Ridge this year we can talk about your encounter was able to talk to so many

people last year and the year before it is an incredible time you're not going to want to miss it

and i'll see you there before we wrap this episode i want to say something directly to a very

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yeah 20 billion recovered it's actually I think somewhere north probably closer to 22 23 after

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Morgan Morgan what what would I do if I got into an accident probably the easiest way is

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