What is Capitalism for Good?

Hey folks, this is the between the interview show where I'll provide some context background

reflections and recommendations associated with the capitalism for good philosophy.

While the interviews are obviously focused on highlighting businesses and their leaders

through talking about their experiences and philosophies, the between the interview

shows will be mostly me connecting the dots, providing some additional insight, spotlighting

the things that I'm listening to, reading, and watching in order to learn more, as well

as some of the why behind where I am choosing to put my dollar.

These between the interview shows will be sprinkled in between the interviews and will be

posted on the main feed, but will also be posted weekly on the Patreon in video form.

So if that's your jam, head there, there's a link in the description.

Hey folks, thanks so much for coming back to the between the interviews episode of Capitalism

for Good Podcast, where today I guess just to be super and probably deceivingly simple about

this, I'm gonna talk about why does any of this matter. To me, I'm the kind of person who's

always searching for a greater meaning or the story behind the story, I would not like I

can ever sit through a movie or anything, but if I did, I would want to listen to the director's

cut of it. I guess I do listen to podcasts and it do watch TV because they're shorter and easier

for my brain to digest. And so I really loved listening to the office ladies with

Pam and Angela talking about their experience behind the making of the office.

And so I guess if you put that in terms of the between the interviews here of Capitalism for Good,

like that's kind of, I guess, what that is, that sounds so weird to compare myself to them.

Lil' Jennifer's shirt is from Missouri, St. Louis, Missouri, Kansas City,

Missouri girl over here, well, depending on what time of my life that I am claiming at that time,

but anyway, so in the fashion of the kind of behind the scenes between the interviews of this,

I'll take a quick second to just kind of recap where we've been, how we got here to all of

this. And you know, for those of you that have listened to all of them, thank you so much.

I hope that this won't be super boring, I'll make it pretty quick, but for anyone who like

has not dabbled at all, and this is where you're starting, this is what you missed. So episode one,

high level intro of my business experience in my career history, and kind of generally who I am as a

person, and all of that kind of stuff. Then I did an interview with Shannon Masterson as the first

business leader to be highlighted within the capitalism for good project. And there we talked

about the importance of who you surround yourself with, and being intentional about that when you

can. But we also talked about what it's like to speak up and ask for help in certain situations,

or if you have identified a gap or a need trying to identify someone else and to speak up

and ask for help in those in those types of situations, you know, do you have someone involved

that already that you can just tag in there? And then it took a detour into these between the

interviews. And, you know, I just, I will say this again, it's so great to hear from those

business leaders kind of straight from their experiences and their viewpoints, their lessons learned.

And while we may or may not be in their field, or maybe involved in the consumer side of their

field, or maybe we want aren't now, but we might later, I still think that there's takeaways

in through lines that we can find through the themes of all of those types of things.

I also think that it's valuable to take a beat, to reflect, and to ingest, and digest the

information that we just received to try to understand a little bit of just how, how is that

applicable to each of us? And there are things that we can take away from each of these experiences,

and sometimes a part of that is to leave something behind to be like, yeah, that wasn't for me,

not super applicable, or I disagree. And I think that's totally fine and normal and kind of just

the experience of like being humans in general. So the between the interview show is intended to be

done in that same way. While I have some really strong viewpoints and ideas about kind of the way

things should be, the way things should run, and those are all based on my experiences and my

history. I never want anyone else to just like blindly follow everything that I'm laying out,

where everything that's one of these other business leaders is laying out without running it

through that filter of their own lived experiences. I would rather that we all just think about and

consider the impact in the context of the choices that we make on a daily basis as a result of our

viewpoints. And that perhaps some of these other business leaders that we'll talk to and we'll

hear from in the future that that's just in other, just one more book on bookshelf, just one more

tool in the toolbox, just one more piece of information that you can take or leave or

apply it however it does or does not apply to your life at that given time. So in these between

the interviews episodes, sometimes I'm going to at one point I'm really really going to regret

naming it that because I stumble over those words every single time. And I am also a little

paranoid that that's going to like fall through the cracks and editing and stuff and people are

going to be like, what are you talking about? Have you lost your mind? Long and short of that is

sure have. Anyway, and some of these between the interviews episodes, I've talked about some of

my experiences in the career field and why I am so passionate that about being intentional

when we're considering how we make our money. I also have used an example around the choices

of how we spend our money and how that may have an impact on other aspects of life, whether that is

directly deliberate or indirectly and maybe unintentional. I also used politics in some of those

examples in government, but again, because that is my dream. And it's also on display in a big way.

So while it might be a turn off or something that like makes people stomach turn or it might be like

so much, we're getting so much of that information already. It is big right now. So I did kind of use

that lens because it's something that I thought would be relatable. Doesn't turn people off

in a way? Sometimes, yeah, totally. And I get that. But again, just kind of going back to that's

the context that I view the world and I'm not really someone to shy away from having those kinds

of conversations and just hope that those types of conversations and those topics are

discussed in a respectful and understanding in fact-based way where it's important to view

many, many different perspectives of how those things impact literally all of our lives.

If you've listened to all of the between the interviews episodes today, you've also heard me

continue to use examples of how money intersects with government and the rights of women and how

they make and spend their money. Again, going to pull that back to my viewpoint. I am a woman

in the business world making and spending my own money. I, you know, at that's an aspect of it.

Additionally, I've taken a similar approach to the intersection of non-profits, community focused

for profits and what I've dubbed traditional businesses. Specifically about the misconceptions

that people may have about all of that and how those different buckets of businesses

may not in reality be all of that different. Specifically, one of my points was if we're paying for

overhead costs in traditional goods and services that we're purchasing, why would it make sense

to refuse to do that in other aspects of our lives? It's not to say that we should all just not

think about those things and blindly spend money on all of those things. I do think it's important

to be thoughtful and intentional and kind of understand what is going into that and also from

the business side, it's kind of ethically and morally responsible of us to make sure that we're doing

that in an efficient way, whether that is short-term efficiency, long-term efficiency, all of those

things. Again, Easter eggs, we will talk about more of those things. Again, that's my jam here.

So, again, why does any of this matter? From my perspective, especially when the people that

I surround myself with, I don't know about you, but the people that I surround myself with

are largely stretched way too thin, stretched way too thin when it comes to money,

feeling stretched them when it comes to time, feeling really stretched them when it comes to just

like bandwidth. I mean, again, that's a whole other thing. I don't know that I could even like

wrap my brain around how we could really dig into talking about just bandwidth and general

information. I think it's really important to get more information hence why I'm here

yapping in this microphone. But folks are emotionally tired. They're worn out. They're

bandwidth seems limited because we've got such an influx in what is seemingly an infinite

amount of information. Here, I go making an argument for the fact that it's important that we

bring in more information. I think when you put that into the context of people who are

stretched thin specifically in time and money that we're talking about here, it seems

kind of outrageous to even think about talking to someone who is already like feeling like

they're at their limit and be like, hey, hang with me here. I have some thoughts about how

if we can just take a step back whenever it makes sense for you, whenever the context or the

situation arises, find even small ways to be intentional about the ways that we make and spend

our money that it may actually help free up time and money and energy and bandwidth and

emotional load in all of these things in the long run. Maybe even thinking of it as an investment

in the future. So taking a note from my girl Taylor, here is an easter egg for a future episode.

I've got this analogy that I've used for years for so many different types of context and

foundations and I think that it fits in so many different places. But I'm going to use it again

here for this. You're throwing away something when you're done with it. And in the moment,

you have two choices. You have a trash bag and a recycle bin. You can, one, be the person who

either doesn't think about it at all and just immediately puts it in the trash bin,

or you can be the person who says, you know, I have heard that if you put things in the recycling

bin, it doesn't really end up getting recycled and it doesn't matter at all. So why even try to do that.

So you just immediately put it in the recycle bin. You could even be a version of that person who

like talks a little trash on the person who ends up putting their stuff in the recycling bin.

On the other side, you could be the person to take that item and throw it in the recycling bin

regardless because you think that it's better to try. Even if there's not a 100% chance that

that item will actually end up getting recycled in the end, or maybe there's even like a pretty

small chance that that item might end up getting recycled in the end. Regardless, even that tiny chance

for you, the decision, it is worth it for you and is more valuable for you to decide to put it

into the recycling bin at that time. Or maybe, here's an argument here, maybe life's just a

little bit less black and white than just am I choosing the trash bin or am I choosing the

recycle bin and maybe we have so many other choices other than those two that are kind of front

and center, the most visible, the most loud decisions about that and that it may potentially

take some more time or some effort or some more thought or some more, you know, whatever

in, but on the front end, it might take some more, but on the back end, it might increase your

chances of that item actually truly getting recycled in the end. If you just consider, hey,

are there any other options here? Is there anything else that we can do, you know, and maybe you

see that there is a way to increase that item actually truly getting recycled in the end. You could

rinse it out or wipe it out or something before you put it in the trash bin. That's also going to

use some water, you got to waste some pros and cons that also might take using a disposable napkin

that's going to go in the trash to put the recycling thing. Like, is the one thing worth the other?

You can take it home or you can take it to a different location. I live down the street from

a recycling center or recycling kind of, you know, the recycle bin that are separated and you know,

I think that that is a better chance that that is going to get actually truly recycled, so on my

way past it, I'm going to stop there. That could be an option that you have. You could just take

the item home. Maybe it's something that you can reuse. It's like a glass jar or something that you

can reuse later in your house. Or, hear me out here, you can go after a job at the recycling

center and help try to improve their business processes and their outcomes. And for some of you,

I just immediately lost them because you're like, oh, girl, that's an outrageous even like

recommendation to offer. But consider that you're the person who's actually currently looking for

another job and you have a background in logistics or strategic planning or a process

efficiencies or something like that. Maybe actually that job that's going to take a lot more of your

time and energy and all of those things is actually truly going to end up being the the better choice

than the long run that's going to like significantly raise the rate that that item actually gets

recycled in the end. Or maybe it's not that item, but it's the future item that you're throwing away

six months from now or something like that. The point is that that analogy in the context of the

foundation outlined in the previous episodes is intended to help better understand the lens

of the capitalism for good episodes, as well as what to expect in the between the interviews

episodes. So moving forward, what does this all mean? Why does any of this matter?

I'm going to put this in context directly to these between the interviews episodes that they will

now be accessed moving forward by supporting through Patreon. By going through Patreon for the weekly

between the interviews episodes, it will allow the project to continue for free for the interview

episodes available to all people as they are ready to go. The direct support will also allow the

project to remain without the potential added bias of advertisers. As I've just been hammered along

a long time before about we've got my own potential bias and then those interviews will have the

natural bias of whoever else is participating in it. The last thing that I want to do is add in a bias

of an advertiser. It also seemed just blatantly contradictory to the point of capitalism for good

if we're talking about like intentionality of these types of things the way that we make and use

our money. I couldn't kind of square that to also going after advertisers so that the project could

continue that we're contributing to business and then I felt like it was promoting all of those

things anyway. In this decision intentionally chosen that that is not the way that we will go after.

So by following the between the interviews episodes on Patreon it patreon.com slash capitalism

for good. You'll directly support the project. Add free. Get access to episodes exclusively

through there. We'll get some stuff that will be out earlier than it might be on the main feed.

Also some other added bonuses depending on their different levels available to you as well.

There's a link in the show notes and a link in the bio if you follow on Instagram at capitalism

for good podcast as well and this now brings me to my what am I reading is well technically

what have I read and it is the book Atomic Habits by James Clear and it's all about how the small

changes in decisions and habits that we make can build to have significant impact. So the compound

interest of 1% better and that mentality of you do something small in the immediate and you're

one day you're going to strive for 1% better in the long run really adds up.

Great book. I have heard from folks who listen to it. I almost had book on tape um book on the audio

book version of it um and that they have enjoyed that as well um for me it's also a good like

just theory and motivating factor whenever I'm like oh I don't want to work out today. I don't

want to eat healthier I'm gonna choose the cheaper option whatever whatever and maybe I just

need to not spend money on that whatever those decisions are that like okay but how can you choose

just like the 1% better option is a helpful reminder for me so I highly recommend that. It's also

not super long it's an easy read it's broken up into all these sections use a million different

examples and analogies. I highly recommend and then because obviously I love a good through line

here my I'm not trying to tell you what to do but here is where I am putting my dollar is

directly to the creators whenever possible and that is like tipping a musician that's playing

live music at the restaurant or bar that you're going into or buying the actual changeable

book or attending the workshop of your favorite author it could be buying artwork of a local artist

at market. I especially love that one because this is again an example of just like who I am as a

human being then you um have something that is less likely to have a million other people to have

it it's more unique um and more of like an exclusive item um also just like supporting a direct creator

it's kind of cool to me to look at the person who like drew the drawing or took the photo

as I'm handing my $20 or whatever it is over for that and oh you're the one that made this I love

this I can imagine is a creator that that um is kind of fulfilling sometimes to hear folks um say that

and then here's my not so subtle wink um uh my next one is subscribing to podcast strictly on

patreon um one of my favorites is Andrew Hickey he is the host of a history of rock music in 500

songs and again you want to talk about someone who's like intentional about every detail so well

researched um even intentional down to like the wording of the title of that podcast he in one of

the early episodes goes into why he chose a history versus the history and that like this is a

version this isn't the end version um and I yeah it highly recommend him if you are into music

and like the ins and outs of music and like how we got here he is really great he's got a free

version that's out on like almost all major platforms and then he has um bonuses and extra things

that you can access by subscribing to him I have again kind of stolen from him that the model a little

bit um and that he uh starts really small and attainable so I'm gonna steal from him again here

he's got this saying at the end of his shows that's all that how even if you just tell one other

person about the podcast spreading the word really makes a difference even if it's just to one other

person so again to steal that sentiment from him and also James clear if you think is this is up

the alley of someone else it'll mean the world to me if you just recommend it um send it to them

um give them a little hey maybe you might like this and then if the capitalism for good project

is up your alley um please consider supporting and following via patreon it'll also mean the world

to me um so thank you all right that is enough let's go leave this place better than we found it