What If You Could Never Forget Your Worst Day?

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1:26I'm Chris Calary and I'm ready to fall asleep and I'm going to wake you up. Oh boy. I'm going to wake you up by talking about the things we remember and the things we forget and what is called one of the few real cases of mental time travel. Have you ever heard of mental time travel? I think anyone who's black or drunk has mental time travel. This must be in reverse. Yeah, this is going back in time. Okay, so that must be it's got to be rarer. Not for it in time. Before we dive into the topic for today, I guess I did want to just talk a little bit about memory in general and I think a topic, well, it's not even a topic, but I feel like on this show, you and I sometimes are grasping at things that we think we remember more than we are sure of things that we remember. Yeah, but like my mom always says, you know, the old- Who cares? Yeah, definitely. No, she always says, you know, hey, the older you get, the more you're going to walk into a room and be like, what are coming here for?

2:28And she's like, in the day that you don't remember eventually what you went in there for is when you should really be worried. Right. So eventually, I'm still at the point where I'm like, what are coming here for? And then I'm like, oh, yay, yay, light bulbs. Well, I'm not so much worried about forgetting what I'm doing throughout the day. Yeah, that should worry you deeply. I do feel like, as I've gotten older, my ability, I would say like my early 20s to my mid-30s was really the pinnacle of my ability to remember just about anything I wanted to remember that was a useless fact. But now, for all of those, I still have them committed to memory. I mean, some of this might be changing because I have a kid now and I just have so much more that I have to remember and have scheduled and everything. So maybe there is a degree of making space in my brain by like kind of deleting things. But yeah, for a long time, like, especially movie facts, like- That's the stuff that I know.

3:29Terrible, always terrible with movie quotes. Like lines of dialogue I never, ever, ever could remember or quote- I stopped remembering them because we're no longer in a monoculture. And there was a time where I can say a movie quote, even fairly obscure ones, and most people would be like, ah, talking about that. But the fact that nobody watches the same thing or listens to the same thing or reads the same thing anymore, it's nearly impossible to have like that ratio goes down to zero, went to like find a new friend from a movie quote. So I stopped doing it, but I remember it a lot. I was always bad with quotes, but I was really good with movie release dates, actors. I think partially because one of the ways my grandparents love movies and one of the ways I got into movies was they had all the Roger Evert capsule review books like Rogers movies of 1995 or whatever. And I wasn't allowed to see most movies, but I would read the books and they always start with like, you know, the Matrix 1999, whatever, and then like, you know, a couple of actors.

4:32And so I had a great recall for like, oh yeah, that movie came out in 1991, whatever. That's long gone. And so what's an amazing thing to make money on is the fact that Evert would later release books of like, he changed his mind on some of them. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, wow, wait a double dip in the same information, like you're going to buy a whole new book to hear and talk about the same movie you already heard him talk about because he's like, you know what? Matrix was good turns out. Yeah, kind of double dipping, but also I think that's really cool. I think every critic should actually be required to do that. It's part of their career. They have to revisit one movie a year and go, yeah, this one, you know, over time it grew on me or it really held up or, you know, I saw it five times and on the fifth time I was like, Jesus, this is the best movie I've ever seen. I think there'd be a lot of, I mean, in general, I think criticism, modern criticism is in a really bad place. The internet is awful for actual criticism. It's also awful for everything. Yeah, but it's just, I mean, everything is the worst movie they've ever seen or the

5:34best movie you've ever seen. There's very little good, like clinical writing about any kind of art that isn't trying to slot it into. I mean, I guess, you know, thumbs up, thumbs down was kind of the same thing, but at least Cisco and Ebert both had a background in actually writing criticism and then they kind of gave it the up or down, but you know, it wasn't now it's just that. Now it's just someone being like, splat. You know, well, it's, I think well, it's a bring us back into what we're talking about in many ways. I don't remember. Yeah, that wasn't going to bring us back. Anything people are going to turn it off now. I was going to say that's a, him going back and reviewing the movies again is his little mental time travel of like putting himself. Yeah. You know, he's addressing the tenure earlier. Yeah. Well, this article that I found that I wanted to discuss is called mental time travel, a new case of autobiographical hyper, hypernesia. I don't know half of those words are what we are looking at here is a case of a girl

6:38who has remembered her entire life. Oh, I love this and I sent you about a lady long time ago. Okay. Who was on like CB like I'm like good, not good morning America. They didn't like parade her out like that, but it was on one of those like six. All are out on a rope. Yeah. Like one of those 60 minute things about a lady who they were like, um, it might be this person, but it was definitely better on video is they were like June 11th, 2001. And then she's like, I had breakfast. This is I had. And then they like were the things she said they were able to like confirm. Well, this, this, so there's the, there's the remember everything person. Well, and every, everything now is like autism, this autism that there is a degree of people who have autism who are really good with just like remembering facts about dates. And sometimes that relates to their own life. And sometimes it relates to their, their special interests. So if it's baseball or whatever, they're like, oh, yeah, this day, these were the games and these were the scores and whatever. She didn't, she didn't talk like fucking rain, man. She's talking like you and I.

7:40She probably is, is more like what we're about to discuss here. The article begins. So this is from, this is an article from the Paris Brain Institute. And it is finally, so new material from them. It is, it is from August 28th of 2025. So this is a very new case that they're studying. And the article begins remembering past events in minute detail, revisiting them methodically and reliving past emotions. You might be in a relationship. This is the peculiarity of people with an exceptional memory of their own lives known as autobiographical hypermnesia or hyperthymesia. This fascinating condition remains poorly understood and each new case contributes to our understanding. In a recent article in neuro case, which also sounds like an awesome sci-fi. Yeah, that's like a William Gibson magazine. Researchers from the Paris Brain Institute and the Memory Brain Incognition Laboratory or LMC squared describe the extraordinary mental life of a 17 year old girl.

8:46Oh, don't tell too many people about it. Nobody wants to date someone who's going to remember every fault of yours. I was also going to say this might be the only 17 year old who's ever been described as having an extraordinary mental life. I don't think most of them are really pumping off with too much. But autobiographical memory refers to our ability to remember experiences that have shaped our lives since childhood. It consists of emotional and sensory memories of places, moments, and people as well as a set of factual information such as names and dates that allows us to orient ourselves when we try to recall an episode from the past. For most of us, these memories are more or less vivid depending on how old they are or how much importance we attach to them. Thanks to the dynamic nature of memory, they lose sharpness over time, fade away completely or partially rewritten. It's a faulty camera. But a small number of people, only a handful of cases have been described in scientific literature, have access to such a wealth of autobiographical details that they can link specific events to any given date on the calendar.

9:48Is that lady? Yeah, this sounds very much like this. Because when they asked her, it wasn't like who won the baseball game that day. It was like, she remembered the weather. She remembers. Yeah. They asked a series of questions that were confirmable and non-confirmable, but all the confirmable ones were like, goddamn, she got it. This is how you know I was never at risk of suffering from this. I don't know what day it is, the day that I'm experiencing it. I don't know. Would you say someone remembers what happened June 21st, whatever? How did they even know that that was June 21st? Yeah. They were looking at a calendar every morning and going, gonna remember that. I don't know. I imagine they closed their eyes and then you see like the balls moving all crazy underneath the lids and then it's like come up like a computer, you know? But I don't know. And they must have been like, oh, I saw it on the mirror backwards and there was a calendar behind me. I drove by a Felix Chevrolet and they had a, that's probably how they get there, the bank. But I don't know how they would, yeah, you're right. It's like, they always bring up the Napar Gatsy bit about like being a time traveler and just being useless. Like people are going to be like, tell us about the future.

10:49He's like, we have these phones that we keep in our pocket and it can do it. It's like, well, how do they work? He's like, no idea. No idea to help you there. Magic. And it was like, maybe magic. And he's like, it was back to like the 1800s. Who's the next president? He's like, fucking no idea. No idea who the next president is. You know, I'm paraphrasing here. But like, he's just like shit going back in time would be so bad for me. Having memories of our lives allows us to construct a narrative of ourselves and stabilize our sense of identity. So biographical memory is therefore associated with the type of consciousness called autonoetic, which allows us to take a mental journey through time to relive past events, project ourselves into the future or into imaginary situations. Yeah, but they don't know how that works. No one knows how that works. Which part? Any of that. Yeah. Nobody knows how the brain does anything. Well, right. Nobody knows how we can hear ourselves think, which means definitely no one knows how we can project ourselves in the future holding money bags or something. Well, I think they're speaking very, they're not speaking literally in terms of like we are going to take a trip into the future.

11:49I think the way that human beings, unlike most animals, are able to imagine a future situation and plan for it. Or even just can. Crows, baby. Smart as hell. Smart as hell. I think, you know, this is one of the things we've talked before about like one of my actual real fears is any kind of like brain damage because I live in my head so much. I think a lot of creative people do. But yeah, this idea of. You got to get one of those DNRs set up now. Yeah, yeah. This idea of who are you if you don't have memory is one of those things that really haunts me. There's a guy I want to cover on an actual episode who lives in like a persistent present. He has no short-term memory and so therefore very little long-term memory. Seems like an easy mark. Yeah, see that guy's will is up for grabs. Yeah. But that seems like one of the true like most horrific nightmares imaginable to me because

12:50I am very aware that I am not much more to myself than a collection of my own memories. 100%. And so when you start to really lose those more than just like forgetting the date a movie came out or whatever, it does start to create this question of like who are you? Yeah, people are going to keep asking you that when you don't know how to answer for sure. I find a lot of good advice quote unquote like idioms that are supposed to be good advice are actually the worst when you prod them for a second because it's like you just said oh my god, guy has no future, no past, worst experience. Yet how often people tell you to live in the present. They're constantly telling you to do that. You know what living perpetually in the present is? This guy's nightmare or like you know what live like it's your last day on earth like which people say to be like order that extra dessert blah blah blah. But if you knew it was the last day on earth that day is going to be miserable. It's going to be anxiety filled. You're going to be freaking out until I have my plans in order.

13:52So also things that are if you live that way you're going to ruin your life. Exactly too. Because the whole point of living like it's your last day on earth is that you want to answer for anything. Yeah. Exactly. So it's like this what I'm saying. There's so many weird little idioms and sayings that if you examine them for a second you're like this is not good. Well I think I talked about this on the podcast before maybe in the bad trips episode. But the first time I took mushrooms I didn't experience much but I did experience the feeling of not being able to imagine the past or the future. And it was exactly what a psychologist would tell you is a very good thing which is being very present in the moment. And I don't know if it's a creativity thing of I spend so much time as a storyteller and as a creative person imagining situations, imagining stories, thinking about my past, tying that to ideas of things I want to work on. Maybe I have a heightened sense of that or maybe I don't. I don't really know. But for me, yeah, being trapped in the present was a really frightening thing.

14:57Sure. And my present in that moment was good. I was in the woods. I was with my girlfriend who's now my wife. It was a good moment. I just was freaking out because I was like this is not where I spent my time. You know, I spent my time thinking about all this other stuff that I'm having trouble doing right now. Yeah. And it really freaked me out. Anyway, hyper-thimestic people can travel through time in their minds with extraordinary ease and intensity. Quote, studying this atypical cognitive function could help us better understand how autobiographical memory works as well as the neurological disorders that affected, says Lauren Cohen, neurologist and co-head of the picnic lab, which sounds lovely. It also sounds like an acronym. And it is an acronym. Okay, there you go. The picnic lab at Paris Brain Institute. I would also say, and I don't think the article goes here at all, to me studying this also feels like a great way to study what happens to our brains as we die. Because this sounds an awful lot like whatever your brain taps into, you know, everyone

15:57says that they kind of see their life flash before their eyes. And some people say that some people report that it seems to take a very long time, that they go through many stages of their life. They remember lots of things in great detail. And so it seems to me that that is very tied to whatever this is. Whatever. Whatever is going on. I was saying even if they were resuscitated one minute later from death, they were like, oh, I was public, I was going for eight hours. Yeah, some people say, yeah, it sounds like they really, they don't really live every moment, but it's a very detailed. Fucking better not. Yeah. Well, yeah, this is the other thing. This sounds awesome. If you've lived a pretty good life, if you've lived a miserable life that probably requires some self-reflection. Yeah. And a lot of people avoid self-reflection for a number of reasons. Yeah. But this sounds like you really, you're going, oh, that, oh, and oh, no, I can't believe I did that. Sure. And I can really experience every feeling and every moment. You know what something I would like to see and it's our brains can't do it, but maybe these people can. There's an episode of Roswell where Max has to like, he saves Liz and the pilot or whatever.

17:04And as they get to know each other or whatever, some of his alien stuff, energy what have you is dealing with, she's dealing with that. And she's like, oh, it was crazy when he did that or whatever the fuck that thing in that episode was, she's like, I saw him as he sees me. It's interesting the idea like to be able to see someone as they see you through the eye of the beholder would be a cool superpower that I think I would like to ease anxieties or ramp them up. But like to me, I always think about that was being like an interesting idea, not that clever or anything, but I'll cut all this. No, I like that. But I'm just saying like that's something I hadn't really thought about like the idea of if every POV shot also included a commentary of what they're thinking. Yeah, that would be as equally blessing or a curse as this is. That's why that's what we think of it. Yeah. Hey, are you enjoying this old episode of New Fear Unlocked? If so, don't forget that you can stay up to date with brand new commercial free episodes

18:05of it every week the main shows off. Now here's one of those ad breaks you could be avoiding. So according to case reports in the scientific literature and accounts in the media, hyper thymesia is often described as a distressing ability. Painful, even traumatic memories can accumulate uncontrollably. Some individuals also feel overwhelmed by useless anecdotal information. That's what having me as a co-host. That's the feeling you get overwhelmed by useless anecdotal information. Nevertheless, Valentina Lakort and Laurent Cohen examined the case of TL, a 17 year old girl who appears to have significant control over how she accesses her memories. TL distinguishes between two types of memory. On the one hand, her quote, black memory corresponds to encyclopedic knowledge mainly acquired at school and carries no particular emotional meaning. On the other hand, the memories of her life are organized within a sophisticated mental

19:05space, a kind of memory palace that she can visualize on demand. Do you know about memory palaces? I've heard about memory palaces. Yeah, it's crazy. I've yet to be able to utilize it in a meaningful way. There was a book or a movie that really popularized the memory palace. I can't think of what it was now. But the memory palace situation is, it's actually was taught for CIA agents learning languages. Yeah. Those people who win those memory contests, they get one second to look at 50 images that are turned over. And they use this memory palace technique to decipher that, to hold the information. The Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock, was that maybe the one? That seems like a pretty sure talk. He probably used my palace. But there's something else. Somebody else talks about their mind palace. It doesn't really matter. But yeah, I think it's a pretty popularly well-known. But I mean a usable skill, not just people who are born with crazy brains. Right. Like, they taught this to agents in the field. They taught this to people. It's like a technique you can learn and perfect.

20:06I wonder how many, if they learned that from studying people with hyperthymesia, I wonder if that's how it's organized for everyone with this or if just this girl has it organized this way. I think they might have just thrown that in as something that you may have heard of, so that you can get through the article. So her memories in her memory palace are filed by theme and chronological order in binders, which are kept in a room with a very low ceiling that she calls the white room. And this I'm saying, this is crazy because we did not describe memory palace and we just talked about it. But it is that. You hear people talk about it. You hear magicians use memory houses a lot because they have to know where your cards are and stuff. And they really do describe it as like, oh, I knew that information. Because it's in a file cabinet in a physical room. I'm saying. And like, that's so bananas to me. TL mentally scans through these binders in order to retrieve episodes related to her family life, vacations, friends, or childhood objects.

21:09Some memories are even stored in the form of text messages or photographs. So crazy, right? So even our modern technology has infiltrated her mind palace. That's so crazy. Because I'm desperate to have a mind palace. I know. I know. The girl uses mental representation tools to isolate memories linked to negative emotions, such as sadness, grief, or distress. For instance, her grandfather's death is kept in a chest inside the white room. She also uses two adjoining rooms, a quote, pack ice room she uses to soothe her anger, a problems room to reflect on difficulties, and a military room populated by soldiers, which appeared in her mind when her father left home to join the army. She has also, there's, we'll put this up on screen for those of you watching this episode. She drew a map or a schematic representation of her mind palace. Seems like you would make for a crazy looking building. It would make for a crazy building. And it seems that there's no drawers with artistic talent that she can open to sketch

22:12a slightly more realistic looking room. Exactly. I think I'm fascinated by all these other rooms. The white room kind of makes the most sense. The chest that she keeps her grandfather's death in seems a little on the nose, but makes sense. The pack ice room. Where she calms down her anger? Her rage room. Yeah. It's a crazy idea. I assume I shouldn't assume. I'd be very curious to know, does she go in that room and actually get ice packs that she feels like she's using to suit, like physically soothe her emotions? Or is it erud? Does she fully just mean it metaphorically as like it's a room that she can go chill out in? Yeah. I don't know. Based on the way she's describing her mind palaces or whatever. It seems like she spends a lot of time there versus like living life. But I think one of the things that must be crazy about your brain functioning this way is I can't imagine that you would spend much time living life. If you have this like perfect recall of your entire life, it's got to be overwhelming

23:13or you must have really good techniques to avoid thinking about it, avoid going there. You know what's the pull to it? Like is she a good guest on the podcast or is she someone who the entire time is like thinking about where she's going to put this conversation in her mind palas? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like the whole thing is like, oh, fuck this is, you know what I mean? Like she's got to be of two minds all the time. Yeah. And one of those minds is a very nicely decorated mind palace. I also am curious about this. I like to see a 17 year old boy's mind palace. It's just like, oh, I keep it in this pile of like unorganized nonsense in the corner. Yeah. That would be, it would be a 17 year old boy's mind palace is probably looking like these days a goon cave with a bunch of files stacked in the corner. But somewhere between, yeah, somewhere between a house you'd see on hoarders and the playboy mansion.

24:14Yeah. I'm, what, the other, I'm really curious about this military room because, why do they appear? That was not a memory. Well, yeah, her father left home to join the army. So what is she, does she talk to these guys? Is she dating one of them? Like I don't understand what the, the, she has her, her mind palace is protected by. Also, yeah, your dad left. That's why it wouldn't just be filled with like a replacement man and not like a bunch of guys. Yeah. But also, you mean he was deployed or did he leave your family? Because he's to join the army. It would have been a lot more interesting for her if you'd left home to join the circus. She could have added a ringling brothers, a wing to the mind palace. That would be awesome. A bunch of elephants. Yeah. Oh, that's also, by the way, would be great if she had to go see a therapist and then she'd hear father did leave for the circus. Because then in the therapist can be like, we need to talk about the elephant in the room. Hey, you know what I mean? That would be that therapist is waiting their whole life. Yeah, for that level of layers. Yeah. Researchers lack robust tools to verify whether hypothymastic memories are reliable, especially

25:17when they concern distant periods. That's why they got to ask people, you got to have a little fact checker with you. Well, this is why, this is this article's way of saying this is why everybody who has this is not individually the world's greatest detective. Because it seems like you, you know, this would be a real skill. Well, you're describing AI, which is like you have to check what it just told you. Right. Like the rest of the population, hypothymastics are prone to false memories and memory distortions. However, Valentina Lacourt and Laurent Cohen used the episodic test of autobiographical memory or Tempa and the temporal extended autobiographical memory task or team with two ease. Hell yeah. The test is how easily people can mentally travel through time, the richness of the memories they report and how they relate to their own narratives. Well, that the acronyms are all in English. Yeah. They're all French people. Maybe I guess like everything's English. If you want to like fly planes or write scientific journals, I don't know. Yeah, I would imagine a lot of international science stuff, probably just defaults to English. Yeah.

26:18Especially if you're in Europe or yeah, we don't default to the metric system. I'll tell you that much. They're fine. Well, that's the compromise. I'm not sure everything in the metric system, but they have to report it in English. Their findings indicate that TL relives moments of her life with exceptional intensity and vividness. Sometimes, and as an external observer, sometimes as a protagonist, she can reexamine details from different points of view. So maybe she can. She'd be more of the greatest detective. She'd be more of the greatest detective. Oh, yeah. Well, they don't know. It still doesn't. She's not there thinking. This is fascinating to me. When researchers asked her to imagine future events, she provided an unusually rich amount of temporal, spatial, and perceptual information far beyond when an ordinary person can produce. These observations. Storytelling, though, that's not unless they have something where she was like, knew about the Paris attacks. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm curious. This article doesn't get into it. I'm going to bet that research would not show that this is the case, but how this is

27:19a very dissentence sparks the imagination because it doesn't say if they're asking her about specific future events, how accurate she was. Are we hinting at she has some kind of a psychic ability here? This is very soft language for she got it right. You know? But I also wonder about, I'm anti-precrime. We all should be anti-precrime divisions, but we are seeing in a lot of Western. Countries currently funding a lot of, they're trying to do pre-crime. Yep. But I do wonder, as I imagine would be an element of pre-crime, if you have an encyclopedic knowledge of memory or like, you can see things from different angles, blah, blah, blah. What is the large language model filling the blanks that you might be able to do to see around the corner that someone else could in? If you had a larger database of information where you and I, I don't remember any of

28:21the years my parents were divorced, like if she has, if a person with this can draw on that much more stored information, does that help them draw conclusions? Draw conclusions for a future event, the way that a large language model using the bigger and bigger and bigger databases are more accurately predict what the next word should be to answer your question. So you're saying that a person's latent psychic ability might have something to do with how much information they're able to process from the past? It's a thought I just had in real time, so I don't know if it's any good, but yes, it could be something where they just have a larger data set to pull from. It's interesting. In the way that history is doing to repeat itself if we don't remember it, that's why people always think seems to come in cycles or, oh, tariffs didn't work 80 years ago and then it didn't work that time or this didn't do that, but we continue to do the same shade even when we know the result because most people don't remember or the books weren't read again, but if this person has access to that much more. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I think the question there would be any future event is going to be predicated.

29:25The way it unfolds is going to be predicated on so many moving parts and so many individual people that even if you have the ability to corral and use vast swaths of stored information, I don't know. I mean, I really boils down to a question of whether or not there's free will, right? Yeah. Just because you can remember every interaction you've ever had with every person in your life, does that? Are those patterns so ingrained in our reality that those people will not be able to act any differently in the future? Yeah, I know. I know what you're saying. I guess I was just having a thought in real time. No, it's a great thought. But that thought is also not undercut by but cosine in a way that makes my thought less interesting, which is when people are asked about the future so often they say or start that sentence with, well, history would tell us. Yeah. And so that's the same thing, right? It's just. Yeah. But this person has access to all their history and these other people have access to all these books about history.

30:25Yeah, I think what you're saying is that this person, you know, instead of trying to research and draw all these correlations through a long, laborious process of... They can just calculate it fast. Yeah. Yeah. The article tells us that these observations that they've made about the way that T.L. relives moments of her life and possibly the future with great detail reinforce the idea that mental travel into the future relies on mechanisms similar to those used in conscious exploration of the past. In both cases, sensory information seems to play a crucial role. Well, sense memory, they say, is one of the strongest. Yeah. Indicates memory. Yeah. Some studies suggest that hyperthymesia is associated with over activation of brain networks involved in autobiographical memory in certain visual areas. However, no neuroanatomical differences have yet been found between hyperthymesics and individuals with typical memory. Quote, it's difficult to generalize findings about hyperthymesia since they rely on only a few cases.

31:27Does aging affect the memories of these individuals? Do their mental time travel abilities depend on age? Which is... You've just rephrased this question. Can they learn to control the accumulation of memories? You've got to go to Professor Xavier's School for that. We have many questions. Well, you have two questions. Yeah. That were ultimately the same question. And everything remains to be discovered. An exciting avenue of research lies ahead. It concludes Valentino's work. Well, that's a bummer. What they just said, there is a bummer in the sense that they're like, you can do a million brain scans and there's no fucking hyperthyroid or whatever. Hyperthymesia. Hyperthymesia thing. We're like, oh, anyone who has this weird cyst on their brain has it. It's like the problem with autism, right? Where it's like probably one of the most research things because it's always under scrutiny that we've ever done. And I'm sure everyone would just love to see like, we'd love to tell you that we use this scan and this chest and if this comes up, that's what it is. Well, this seems, I mean, this is, it's a little bit of that. This also just seems like whatever causes this is so rare that it can't even really be studied

32:32is kind of what they're saying. Like you need, you can't create enough of a data set to really make it. But even if it was studied, it sounds like there's no physical difference to the brain that they would be able just to check it off. And like, yes, you have this neurological disorder. I'm saying they, I'd be curious to know if you could, if you had a large enough pool of people with hyperthymesia, if you, like maybe they're just looking in the wrong place is what I'm saying. Like what we won't know. What could be different and they're just sort of not looking there because they don't know where to look even, you know? But also, it's a difficult life to live. It sounds like if you have it, but it's not a life altering thing. So it's a card probably to get funding to be like, why don't you study more of these people? It's not like they lose the ability to walk when they think, you know what I mean? And so it's like, well, what's the pressure or the like to get more people in the status of this? This feels like one of those things that like an eccentric rich person would fund a lot of research into because it's along the lines of like a living forever kind of thing.

33:35So I'm sure Peter Till's already got a little bit of money in this. Yeah, I mean, I would not, I wouldn't doubt it. He seems to be a guy who is very interested in all the strange things the human body can do. He seems very much like an Indiana Jones villain in many ways or a James Bond villain. I think you have more precisely where they're just like, you're going to use the occult. They're going to use whatever, like whatever whatever. Whatever gets you there. I find it not at all surprising. It's doing like a anti-Christ thing. He's super scary. I don't like that guy. Oh, allegedly. Oh, allegedly. I don't even know what we're supposed to say. Every synopinion. Yeah, it's a, it's all, but if you want to fund our show, then fuck it. We'll change or take. We'll take the teal box. The show, the show is going to become a new fear re-cage. Peter Theal rocks. Yeah. It's going to become a living forever unlocked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be doing this when we're 950 years old in the surface of Mars as attached to blood

34:35bags. We have a, this is a nice segue to bring us to a close is, I don't know if we've discussed it or I just heard someone talking about it once, is the, like, would you rather live forever, but every like 100 years, like your memory gets wiped or just die at like 85 when people usually do. Right. And it's across the board. People are like, it's die day five. Like the whole point of going on is remembering everything. Yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, whoever first posed that question. I think I'm just remembering it. I'm just remembering I'm sure a better question. Because what I just said is just reincarnation, but I'm saying like, yeah, it also just seems, you know, that would be a bad hypothetical to a bad deal with it. I think I'm just misremembering. That's all right. But it makes sense that those people would choose dying at 85, like, yeah, you don't, memory is what makes it worth it. Exactly right. And I think you could also argue even if you were living forever, but not having your

35:38memory wiped ever, everyone, I'm sure that wasn't the actual question. No, but I would just say unless you had hyper thymesia, at a certain point living forever, you're only going to remember the past 100 years or whatever. So not according to every vampire in cinema and, and, and books. They're always like, yes, I was a civil war soldier and I dated someone named Clarebel. Yeah, but, but I'm saying those vampires are what max 200 years past the civil war that they're remembering that. I'm saying if you live forever, what are you remembering? It's 6,000 years from now. I think at a certain point you'd want to remember how to kill yourself. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, before we, before we do any of those things, we just said, I think this is, this has been a really eye opening mind expanding episode of New Fear Online. Third eye opening. Third eye opening. I want a mind palace. I can't even afford in this economy. I can't even put a down payment on a mind palace. You're going to be really disappointed if you had a mind palace and the whole thing immediately

36:39just fills with military men. Like fuck. It's not the mind palace. I wanted. I thought. I mean, I'll give us an out before I said I was going to say a good idea, but I don't want to say it. People will take it. All right. Well, until next time, I'm Chris Collarie. And I'm about to make a million dollars in this idea. And we'll see you next time or maybe we won't because we already have a million dollars. Can we stop the show once we have money? We stop. We won't do that to you. We love you guys. We'll see you next time. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. The theme song may say this show has no name, but as you know, it actually has a name. New fear unlocked. The thing you guys always say, that's the name. The name is new fear unlocked, but now it's over so you can turn it off. There's nothing more after this.

37:39Thanks for coming. See you next time for not necessarily fears. More than likely for sure not fears.