We Do This Too - Respect the Grind: Cherell Anderson Speaks

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2:28These are the brands we trust, brands we use, and brands we're proud to stand behind. I also want to send a heartfelt thank you to everyone who supports the podcast. Whether you've been here since day one or you're just tuning in, your support means the world to us. With that being said, let's dive into another episode of the We Do This Two Outdoors podcast, with your boy, C.Weele! Well, some of y'all welcome to another edition of the We Do This Two Outdoors podcast, I'm your host Courtney Williams. I've got a super special guest on today, from Labour, New Mississippi. Cheryl Anderson, is that right? Good afternoon. Good to hear you guys. Okay. Yes. Found her on TikTok. She goes by out in Melbourne on TikTok. The first video I've seen, as we were just talking about, she's talking about her favorite gun, being a 65th Creed more. And everybody knows how I feel about a 65th Creed more.

3:29I've had it. I said it plenty of times on here, so we're going to get into that, eventually on this podcast. But first off, thank you for hopping on here, and getting on my podcast. I appreciate you. And everything. No problem. So, first off, let's just tell everybody a little bit about yourself, where you're from, or how you guys are starting them outdoors. Okay, people, so I'm Cheryl Anderson off from Liberty, Mississippi. I'm an outdoor girl, Ryle Horses, work cattle. I hunt deer, haw, trap coons, I do a little bit of everything. Oh, my outdoor life story when I was a little girl, and I was with my dad all the time, and he would be like, coming me to trap these hogs, or coming me to check the hog truck, or come set these colonial traps, and come do these, come do that. It was basically like a command. It wasn't a question. I had no choice but to go and learn, because hey, you never know when you might need those skills,

4:29or when you might need to pull them out. So, yeah, I mean, I didn't have the balls back there, because I didn't, I was a little scared. I came alive, but now I'm glad that I'm not still most of the time I do it, so. That's what's up. You started at a young age, like most of us did, especially being down there in the South. I mean, it seemed like most of your Southern people that grew up, especially in like a rural city and country city, you know, that's what they grew up in. So, that's though. Yeah, you see some of everything down here, like for you. Yeah. How old are you? 18. 18, so you're still pretty young. Yeah, that's super dope. You know, when you, as you get older, you know, if you have, you know, you're married and have kids, you can pass that down to your, for your kids as well. And. Your kids in a picture, ain't it? And I think, I think about them, not like that. Yeah, you should have that. You should have that now.

5:29I was the same way at 18, trust me. Yeah, and I got a, I got a year old now, you know, it's, you know, it went, it went fast, you know, but, you know, I wouldn't trade him, trade him for nothing. But he, uh, he's getting to the point now where, you know, anything that he does outside, he wants to go outside. So if I'm shooting my bow, if I'm outside shooting my guns, whatever, he's going to be outside with me. So it's, it's kind of cool to see him follow me, like I used to follow my dad, you know. Yeah, and that's sort of like my niece. My niece always says she won't be like me when I was she grew up, but when I bring her out here and do stuff, she's scared. I'm like, hey, you want to be like me, but she's scared. Yeah, it's, and I know a lot, a lot of people up here, you know, where I live, you don't get, you got a few females, you know, tagging them all, you know, beside their dad, but you know, nine times out of ten, it's, it's the sun.

6:29So it's, it's cool to see, you know, the girls behind their dad or their mom, you know, doing it just, just to give a different, different type of, you know, perspective, especially, you know, once they get older, they can pass it down to their daughters or whatever. So, you know, and that's what, that's what kind of, during me to you, when I seen you on, you know, TikTok, because I was like, okay, I want to get like a female perspective on the outdoors and like, what got her into it? Because, you know, males, we get, we all got pretty much the same story just about, but like sometimes a female might be got into it late, or something like that. So, but yeah, I appreciate it. So, moving on. So, the first time, I guess, so being, you're still young though, but I guess, have you ever felt a time where you felt that you didn't belong in the outdoor space?

7:33Not really. I mean, I was, I was born around it. Like, whenever, my grandma would have me on a weekends, I would be out there with her, and feeding up. She would have me tone her tone. She would be told me in her arm out there, feeding up on her farm, and then she would be, she'd have me on the tractor. She's out there working to hate you. So, I mean, I just kind of got used to it, but no. I got you. Okay. So, I mean, that's this question. Have you ever felt like up to this point that you had to prove yourself a little more being a black female in the outdoors where you live, or just also don't take time or whatever? I mean, yeah, because it's not a lot of people, my age that do the stuff. I do. So, I mean, I try to put it out there, like, if you want to be, like, if you want to step up and become an outdoor girl, it's not nothing much too. Like, I'm at the point to where I'm going to teach,

8:33or just like, coming out your shave, that's what I had to do, because I was scared to post on TikTok at first. Then whenever I start blowing up, I was like, okay, I could do this. Uh-huh. Yeah. So, what had you, what had you scared? Well, why did you, why were you scared to post on it? No particular union. You're like, if you're not me, you know, I have low self-confidence. And whenever I was in seven grade, my teacher told me that I need to work on my self-confidence, because I always doubt myself. And, yeah, I just took a risk. I get there, because, I mean, growing up, where I grew up, this, I mean, it's country, with backwards, but, you know, I was the only black kid on all my sports teams growing up. And like, once I got to college, I felt like I needed to find like a new identity. So, I was hanging out, like, they're still my boys to this day, but they're all from like big cities. Like, I was the only country boy. So, I was trying to feed in with them.

9:34And I kind of forgot, you know, where I come from, there for a while. So, it was like, probably our second year in, it was right around the year season, and I hadn't been hunting the whole time I'd been in college. And I was just biting at the bit to get back out there. I told them, my family told them, I said, look, this is what I do. I'm country is hell. And I said, man, we knew you was country, man. Like, listen to you. He's like, we already knew that. Like, we were just waiting on you to tell us. And so, I finally, you know, came out of my shell, and, you know, you know, just started being me again, you know. You know, I'd be freezing in the sun, you know, in the wintertime, trying to, you know, where are my Jordans? He's staying jagged, trying to be cool. I had to bring the car hearts and stuff back out. You know, I was getting too cold, hadn't the country boy came back out of me. So, I get, you know, a lot of people being scared because of the backlash and whatever. And to be honest,

10:35like, I've got more, you know, backlash from people that look like me than everybody else. So, I don't know how that's been for you, but, you know, I get the whole, you know, you're trying to be white, you know. Well, it's the opposite for me. I get, I have more support from these people to them own colors. It's the opposite for me. Man, yeah, it's, it's crazy, man. And I don't understand it because like, you know, we, everybody's different. That's what makes, you know, I guess America great because everybody's got their own little style, you know, nobody wears the same type clothes, you know, nobody wears the same type shoes, whatever, everybody's got their own little style, you know, everybody does something different. So, I'm like, when I tell you I hunt, I finish, I'm an outdoorsman. They automatically think, oh, it's a white boy sport. Why are you trying to be white? Well, it's not, but hey, this, this world that we live in, we get overlooked because, mostly,

11:36those people do that type of stuff, but, and, no. Yeah, I mean, you've seen it growing up, because I mean, where you, where you're from, you're saying, you know, people that they look like, you know, what you was doing. You know, I say, man, my dad, my uncle's doing it, as, you know, I was growing up, but like, the, what do you look on TV? You don't see us a lot. Why do you think that is? Who? Oh, that's a good question. I really never just thought about it. Yeah. I guess people never just wanted to take the extra still chance to come out. I really don't know. Yeah. So my dad always had a saying, the people are scared of what they don't know.

12:38Especially where I grew up. So my dad, me and my uncle was only to, like, three black people that I knew that I was a ton of, you know, that were, that were of African American descent or whatever. When people realized that's what we did, you know, we were always out in the woods or always out of them on a lake somewhere. You know, they were kind of looking at us all crazy. They were like, why are y'all out here? They're like, we're out here fishing. It's like, oh, black people don't do the type of thing. They're saying, well, I'm black, you know, what I do is type of thing. My son does. Well, you know, my brother, my brother's all. And I don't know where down the road, it became, like, a white thing, if that makes sense. Because that's what everybody in the outdoors it seems like, when they tell you, hey, I hunt, hey, I fish, it's like, why do you want to do that white boy stuff for it? And if you go back in time, you know, you know, back in the day, we had the hunting fish for 11,

13:39you know, some of the first guides that were ever out with Louis the Clark, Daniel Boone, they were black. I think Teddy Roosevelt had a black, a black guy, like we've been out here for a long time, you know, the first cowboys were black. You know, we've been out here for a while doing this, but at some point, it changed where it was like, you know, we don't want to give them the recognition and they just took off with it, if that makes sense. Right. So, my goal with this, you know, this podcast and my brand was to just kind of show, okay, you know, we do this too, you know, we're out here, we're grinding just like y'all are, I got the same passions, you, I'm just a little bit dark. Right. So, so, you know, it is what it is, but I think it's changing a little bit in the outdoor industry, where we're kind of getting a little more recognition, you know, especially with like the 247 hot boys, that, you know, we're never a big, we'll take a, you know, migrant and some of these different big brands,

14:41the Addy and whatever. So, I think that's kind of changing the narrative a little bit too. Yeah. And rain outdoors. Arrains of bees. She, she just got a deal. I think with, the fishing company. Yeah, they fish with the, yeah, see fish. Yeah, she fish. Yeah. Yeah, that's super dope to see that. Yeah, it is. I'll look at those reals because, I don't care what anybody say. I'm going to stick to my button, fishing reel. I'm not good with a baitcaster, the spinning combo, none of that. My, my brain, my brain reel can, it's just as mean to fish as those other reels can. Yeah, that's what I, I mean, that's what I grew up with. And then I went to a spanner and then I tried to baitcaster, but I can't, I can't keep it from burying the nest. And so. Right. I ain't got time for a backlash. No, it's too, it's too much. But, but yeah, it's dope seeing people like her, you know, and, uh, you know, Kate Black. Yeah, I mean, he's another one that I see you know, getting big and, you know,

15:42outdoor industry. I mean, there's, there's a lot of up and coming people that's out there that just, I would, you know, always say we give more of us a chance to kind of showcase what we do and how we do it. Because, you know, we, we might do it a little different because, you know, us, you know, we got, we got a little bit of swagger into our stuff. You know, we might work animal to the club. And some people don't, you know, something we don't like it, you know, like, uh, I don't know if you've seen the whole Jordan real tree collaboration that they just came out with, like, a lot of Christmas. I've heard about it. I've heard about it. Man, if you got them comments on Instagram, Facebook, and people with some head, God, they was like, Oh, we're turning this into a fashion show. We're turning them like, man, like, who cares? Yeah, but this, that's something they do not need to do. This, that's why I made my video about these none of the country folks bound up on the camera. I can't do that. I couldn't buy

16:43no new camera, like, seriously, I'm going to want more. I'm going to want more airtime. They don't, they only had, like, two eggs, ill, Laura's almost like, I cannot fit this. So whenever I make their video, I think he want to reach out to me about their video from their video. And then that's when they're, you know, did a little sponsor with him and we're from there, but Laura, I hope they do not start this up again because if they do, we're going to have an issue, like, seriously, I'm serious. This, it don't make no sense. I mean, I get, I see where you coming from with that, but at the same time, like, I'm cool with it. You know, I mean, people, Camo is Camo. And if, like, my wife, she don't have, but she wears Camo for all of the time, with her George, like, I'm cool with that, but like, it is frustrating when you go on a store and you can't find no Camo flies in your size. And, you know, you see everybody walking around with, you know, all your Camo stuff. I was like, this is the reason I came find it. Like,

17:45it's crazy, man. I swear, I get to know, then I hate order online because I cannot give my size right. Then you have the sheep's stuff back. And you say, yeah, I get that. I mean, but I'm cool with it. I mean, everybody get their own thing. Camo's kind of got, you know, to the point now where it is a fashion statement, but, you know, us real hunters, I mean, it don't, it don't bother, it don't bother me. But, I get from, from your perspective, and I've heard that from a lot of people because they go somewhere and can't find nothing. And, I got to order my stuff online a lot of times because I'm a big guy. It's hard to find my size sometimes in the store. But, when I do find it, it's getting bald. Like, my wife was like, this is getting ridiculous. You get too much stuff in here. Sometimes, I want to wear some time. Most of my stuff is bottom lane because it's like my favorite pattern. But, I'm starting to wear some of the, some of the older, real tree stuff, some of the older bossy old stuff

18:45with the green leaf, and stuff like it, you know, so. When is, when's Turkey season open up for yard now there? It's already open. I plan on going in the morning. Man, how many y'all get, y'all get buried, right? Honestly, don't know. I'm new to it, so I'm just trying to, so you're going by yourself or you're going to win somebody? I'm not going with someone. Okay, I'm guessing they are seasoned or they knew like you. They knew like me. Oh, uh, are y'all okay? How y'all doing this? Y'all running a blind, y'all going to stalk them, what y'all going to do? Now we're going to be in the woods, in the, um, going to be behind some little bridge and way to the come. Got a little collar, so. Okay. I'll try it out. Well, I'm going to tell you, um, turkeys can see very, very well. I know like any little spot can throw them. Oh, if I'm going to be able to hit the toe. Yeah, like it's, it's bad. Like they can see like a lot of this did this in the woods

19:46and the turkeys run me. He's gone. And so, we have on pet turkeys and they make so much noise. It's like you can slam a door, say something to someone else. It's like, like, yeah, well, I hope you get one. It's, uh, it's one of them thing, man. Once you get your first one. Uh-huh. It, um, like it's, it's basically a chess match between you and that time because you're trying to sound like a, like a hien and you're trying to get him to come to you. And, right. I, it's, so my last podcast, I don't know if you've seen it with, with Stanley Williams. He's like, the man when it comes to turkey hunting. He's a, he's a caller. He's from Georgia. He does competition calls and stuff like that. But he broke, he broke him down to, to a lot of people. Because a lot of people call wrong. They call too long. They call too loud. Uh-huh.

20:47You know, I'm the guy that always has five to six different calls because if they don't answer the one, they might answer to the other one. But if they don't answer, I'm gonna keep, I'm gonna keep going through my vest until I find something like an answer to it. And when you find, when you find that call, the dirt's still going to, no change it. Like keep on, keep on going with it. And when they get close, you know, if you, if you hand pretty close, you better get your gun or whatever you use, you better get it on your shoulder real fast. Cause they, they'll get their fast and they'll see you moving and they're gone. Like it's, it's crazy. You know, this one I'm afraid of, but hopefully, I'll be ready. Yeah, you'll be good. I had, I had a hunt one time, man. I went with a homeboy of mine. We're hunting and, uh, he can, he can do all the call with his mouth. Like he's just that dude. And he started calling, he started calling.

21:52That bird seemed like it was 200 yards away, but he was, he's probably like 50 yards, but he was down and like this holler. I said, he's going to come up this ridge. That's who we were at to be ready. He's like, Oh, no, man. It's a week. We need to, you know, we need to walk down a little further. I said, no, we need to set up right here. I said, he's probably 50 yards away. He's like, no, I'm moving in the walk. So we took off walking and I'd be named. We took probably 20 steps. And there he was. Seeing us go. I said, dude, I told you. I told you. Oh, so I didn't realize he was that close. I said, man, they're in the woods. Everything echoes. I said, but if he's that close, I said, we need to set up back here. Let him walk up here and, you know, so we can bust him. Anyone then I've had a hunt where we seen a, we seen a bird probably 50 yards in front of me. My homeboy is up sneezing. And the bird flies off. I've had one where dad starts coughing right in the middle of me

22:53about to pull the trigger on the bird. And he takes off. So I'm just like, right, huh? With y'all in the war. I mean, but I hope y'all do get one because it's a, it's one of them things, man. Like once you kill that person, man, it's own and profit. It's, uh, I love deer hunting just as much as the next person. I love taking hunting, but it's beer ducks for me. I mean, I love taking hunting too, but, uh, if I can just hunt one, one thing for the rest of my life would be deer. So what's, uh, what's your favorite thing to hunt? It's between deer and hog. Whenever that time come around for deer, like I spend most of my time in the woods from sun up to sundown, but hog is all around. So I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta go with hog season. I was hoping to see some hogs while I was in this season, but I didn't see any, uh, but it was also,

23:54it was jaywear, but the two days I went down there, it was 85 degrees, both days. So I'm sitting in my bun in West Point with a t-shirt on, sweating the death. Uh, I mean, the day out of left, the day I got in my truck, packing my truck and headed back to Kentucky, it was 25 degrees. And I had to come home. So I'm hoping to go back down there around November, December, because I never killed a hog, and I would love to kill one. It's fun. I'm actually just killed 16 if you saw my recent video. Yeah, I've seen that. That's insane. Yeah, I guess I triggered a few people, but I mean, by the way I was throwing them out, but hey, I had to get it done some kind of way. But they just popped up like a little, like, I would say, after deer season, I looked on the camera and I just out 21 hogs out. Like, where did they come from? Because during deer season, I did not see not one. It's such I looked on the camera.

24:55So there's no, we said the pig breed, pig breed trap up. And it's like a, it's like a net trap. And you space it out with T-posts and and rep around, um, strap system. So hi, it works is that you made up on your own, the net. And then once the pigs were used to coming on in there, this one of you, Lorda, Lorda net, every couple of days, or a few weeks or so and Lorda and then hey, they got on there and they couldn't get back out and I went out there. It was like maybe nine, 15, nine, 30, but out there at that chop, and just we needed 16th crazy. I know, right? That's dope. Y'all hunt them at night as well down there. Or you just hunt them during the gutted. Just hunt them going the day. But like I said, they had one in the truck at night and I was afraid that they would have been gone by the morning. So I just went out there and do have an arm, but it's a thermoscope on the AR, but I just don't go out there. But recently, I know it's like four more we have to catch, but they haven't been coming out. So that's dope, man. Yeah, I'm loving it.

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27:59To get started and learn more, including important safety information, week-o-v clinical study information, and restrictions, visit forhers.com. Working across teams is tough, but Asana helps you handle it. That's because Asana is where humans and AI coordinate work together. AI can spot roadblocks and assign work in a snap, so everything and everyone stays on track. That's how work gets handled. That's Asana. Visit us at Asana.com. That's ASANA.com. I was really wanting to see a pig more than a deer. Well, you know, because I went on a hard climb with my boy in Texas, shout out to Chris. I don't know if you follow Hoodnake on an Instagram, but you need to follow him. He's dope. He just got this thermal scopes in and he didn't cite a man right.

29:00So we missed two holes about 60 yards of these nons. And I'm like, bro, I don't miss for the rifle. And he's like, well, you just missed twice. I said, man, something wrong with these guns. And he's a manist. You know, the next day he called me and was like, yeah, I don't think I cited the man right. I need to either get back down to Texas, Mississippi somewhere because I need to get a hole this year. Hopefully I'm gonna get back down there. But uh, just moving on a little bit. What's uh, one hunt that you've been on so far in here 18 years of living that you'll never forget, whether it's a hole hunt, a deer hunt, or whatever. My very first hunt, I can't do that. I was maybe like 11. I had this brand new gun. It's 22 to 50. If you know that gun, you know, that's the fastest gun. Yeah, but luckily, we was in a box stand. And I can't you know, this, this is my first hunt. I didn't see anything.

30:00And I was getting out the old stem in my dead. He was like, man, we get out the stem. Be careful with that gun. Do not bump it. Do not drop it. I said, okay, brand new strap on everything. Okay, and we parked the box. We parked the bike maybe like 70 yards from the same like around the corner. We got out there. He walked in the front of me. He said, didn't I say don't drop the gun? I said, I didn't. And so he was like, give me that gun. So he picked it up off the ground. Got on the floor of the lot. I didn't talk to him. He made it home. And so whenever he checked out the gun, I was looking at it and I was like, did I drop you like not struck, bro? I said, okay, say, yeah, I got to get a new strap. I said, okay. So like a couple days, we went to the same spot. We had bettered up good. Didn't we didn't do no cause anything, but they'll step down. He was like, nothing else come out. You're going to shoot it. So, okay, and there's like four, 50-ish, it wasn't passed five, five, five. Don't came out there eating some rye grass. She don't have it made it to the corn. So she was eating her way to the corn. It's all right. Eat your gun out there. And when you're ready, pull the trigger.

31:02Do not yank on it. I said, okay. Pull the trigger back. I missed. He said, how do you miss that? Did I do it right there? Where you trying to aim? I said, Nicky said, shoot, they're dear behind the front shoulder. I said, okay. So, I'm looking through the scope. Shot the deer behind the front shoulder. She dropped. We up and down celebrating high five of feasible. Next thing though, we looked the deer out there. So we still celebrating. He was like, I did it, I did it. Next thing though, we looked up, deer gone. And so, he was like, no, she probably out there landing. It's okay. Said all right. He said, stay here. I'm going out there and look. I said, look. I stayed in the box. Then he got out, went out there. I saw him walking around, walking this way, walking that way. And we were like, don't tell him this deer didn't got him. Because we were so distracted about celebrating. We did not see this deer going anywhere. We watched the drop. Next thing though, we looked back up. And she was gone. He took forever going, look for it. And I was like, he saw in the blood. And he was like, no. I said, well, you tell him she gone.

32:02He was like, yeah, he said, we're going to come back more. He think I took the door. And we'll come back more and look. When I say, when those son of their deer, when I'm telling you she dropped, she dropped, I'm telling you she did. And I got a lot of that happening a couple of times with some deer on a shot. It looked a blood trail. But I never did find a deer, but it looked a blood trail. But like I say, they're going so fast. The deer didn't even realize they were hit two seconds later. And so I had to put that gun down. But those, those hunts, I would never forget. Remember them like yesterday. You sure? You sure you was using that 225, then after 653 more, right? I'm positive. I'm positive. I'm 100% positive. It was that 222 feet. And I still have it. Still have it. Yeah. And I'm 222 feet. They're usually used for a coyote hunt. I pretty, because you know, that's cartridges. That's a perfect segue into this 653 more conversation. Man, listen, this 65 never let me down.

33:04He's been true to me. And I would say true to him. I'm not switching. I'm just not. I mean, it never let me down. Manish issues so flat. I promise you we do this. I have my range funding. And if I see a deer out there, I'll get that range found out. 325 yards. I moved it across Harold. Pop it and it dropped. That's what's up. So for all the listeners out there, this woman might be the only person in the world that has never lost a deer and 65 people. And that's the truth. That's the truth. My trophy on eight point that I killed here in January. Dropped it dropped the right in this place. They'll do the next shot. Did a next shot? Yeah, because I'm like I was telling you off camera. I've lost four or the 65. My homeboy Anthony, AT2, shout out to Anthony because he's in West Point. I think he's in West Point. He lost one at like 20 yards. I don't know where I'm talking about. There was blood everywhere. I don't know where to deal with it. We searched and searched and searched. Even went back there morning to identify.

34:05So I don't know. But like I said, everybody's got to take caliber that they love. You know, I'm a 308 guy. You know, that's what I grew up shooting. But why did you choose the 65 over all the other calibers that are out here? Because I never did have any good look with a 30R6 or 308. I shot a dome shot shot behind a front shoulder. The same thing like you see up the 65 shot behind a front shoulder. Blood trail never did find it never did. I went from a 22 to 15 to 308. No, 22 to 15 to 30R6 to 308 to 65. Okay, so the 30R6 and the 308, they didn't, a lot of people say, you know, the 65 don't kick at all. Neither the 208. They don't, they don't. But like when you get up to them 30 caliber, you know, the 30R6, 308, 300 winbait, they got a little bit of, they got a little bit kickback to it. A lot of people don't like it. So is that kind of one of the reasons you wanted the 65?

35:06No, not really. I mean, they don't bother me at all. Well, that's good. I can't believe you didn't have no, no, no, no, 308 or 30R6, man, it kind of hurts my heart. Maybe I, I'm gonna leave that son of a f*****, I'll leave that son of a f***** because like whenever I made my video, I got a lot of backlash and um, there was like, you had a 65 is good for if you shoot in coyotes or if you hunt on bobcats or there was like, um, you know, 65 is great for a woman that's good of kick, you know, 45, 70, you know, 300 winmeg and all of a sudden I was like, you know what, it is what it is. I'm glad you've had some sense with it. I never did. Like I said, I might not be the greatest shot that you think, but I feel like I am. You ain't lost us, you know, you got, you got them bragging rights over the rest of it. So there's a right. So yeah, if an ain't broke, don't fix it. Well, that's cool. Yeah, so uh,

36:09so growing up in Mississippi as a female, you know, black hunter, um, what do you want like young black girls to see when they come across your page? Don't take time. That I do it all and if they can't, too. Like I put certain stuff out there for a reason, just for them to try like my recent video of them starting to weed you. Like I know it's plenty of people out there that do not know how to start a weed here and that they hire people to do their lawn care. Like you can say one by doing it yourself, it's really nothing to it at all. Like there's no reason to be scared. You can do this just as well as I can too. No, for sure. Yeah, I miss. That's the good thing about, I guess, social media that's one of the good things, you know, a lot of bad about social media too, but like, you know, young girls, young kids, see, you know, my podcast, you know, see you want to take time, you know, see some of my buddy, other buddies that got, you know, podcast and just seeing them posting stuff,

37:12you know, they might not think they can do it, but then they see us and they're like, oh, like we can't do that. And it just kind of gives them, gives them something else to do because like my, my dream and my goal is to like, get a lot of indoor, like a lot of youth at risk youth, you know, in different cities like mattress, you know, Baltimore, you know, people that are, kids that are in trouble, basically. Bus them in the Kentucky, teach them how to shoot again, teach them how to shoot a bow, how to change the tire, how to tie a tie, you know, just teach them, you know, life lessons. So when they go back home, like they got something else that could possibly keep them out of the street, you know, jail or you know, cemetery. And they might be able to pass the naps of their kids or a little brother or somebody like that. And that aspect and things, what does representation mean to you?

38:14I mean, they outdoors. Well, I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people don't go by being, I can't say this. Okay, so in the outdoor, I try to put myself as being not, not professional, but for who I am, then like whenever I give off my energy, I want to give off like a cool girl, like I don't want to give off like, bougie or this and that, like for my representation, I want to give it off as clean. I don't know, I'm bad at explaining stuff. I mean, it's it, like you want people, you don't want people to think that she likes, like you said, bougie, highfalutin, or whatever, like you want, you know, the cool girl, like, you know, like rain,

39:15like, you know what I'm talking about in the video, like she's, you know, she, she makes you laugh, you know. Yeah, and I have a friend girl. She came across a video one time. She's think this to me. She's like, girl, I'm going to stop this as you know, it's like, no, it was, but we do the same stuff, but no, that's not me. That's not me. Y'all do kind of have what she's got to, you know, that South Carolina accent, but I mean, you can tell, you can tell like generationally, I guess from somebody from the South and somebody from the North, like just by the way they talk. You know, I was like, as I seen you, I said, she's got to be from like Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama or somewhere, just the way, you know, she talks. Yeah. I wanted my T-talk, someone sleet up, sleet up, and it was like, you from Georgia, Georgia, because you have a Georgia accent. I was like, no. Yeah, and y'all, you know, got that whole, yeah, it's a, it's a different world than there.

40:16Which, you know, I didn't know, I didn't realize, man, like, we went to a gas station in West Point, and I'm starving. I'm hungry. I'm like, man, ain't no food places here. I got there late, and I pulled up to this gas station and it was old black ladies back here. And I'm talking about, it's enough food to feed, feed our army. And so I'm like, you can get food at gas stations there. And he said, bro, it was all the best food in the world, was at these gas stations. And I was like, yeah, you can get food at gas stations to Kentucky. You might have food poisoning for about three days. And I'm talking about food. Let me, let me, let me tell you, it can be an iran store, but one thing they have those black cooks in there and they know how to cook. Man, yeah, it was, I forgot what they want, their name was, she told me, but she said, if you want a fresh, I can make a fresh. If you don't want it, she's like, I have it. She's like, it's just, it's just good stuff, though. She's like, it's only been in here for like 30 minutes. And I was like, yeah, let me get some of this. I got mashed potatoes, gravy,

41:16no, back around the cheese. No, I was like, man, I can get this at a gas station. This is crazy, you know. Yeah. You know, when it's, like I said, it's a different world down there. The slaying is different down there than it is up here. You know, but you know, usually from like sitting to sitting, you know, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Memphis, you definitely know that Memphis accent. Yeah, yeah. You know, just, it's cool to see that outlet just kind of come like full circle going to all these different places. You know, but you always know a Southern or anytime you, anytime you come up on one. So, but, uh, do you think the outdoor industry is changing? And if so, is it changing in a good way or in a bad way that you think? For us. As in color? Yes. As in African-American people with color. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just change it like I say.

42:17I'm mostly on TikTok and I'm not doing anything and I scroll. I see more people, more people with color coming out doing these doing it. And they might not have a lot of views or a lot of likes, but they, they, they being what's the word? They being and because system with what they do. And I mean, it's good to come out and show the people that you're interested in. So, I mean, is this changing? It's, it's definitely changing. Yeah, I'm glad that it's changing. And I think it's changing in a good way. Some people will say it's changing in a bad way, but I feel like more brands or want to take chances on us. I'll just assume. Yeah, but then, but then I do think that some brands are in competition because this brand might, may, may have but this brand doesn't and the demand of this may be so high, but the other story might have at a cheaper price, so I think it's more competition

43:18between brands itself. Yeah, I can see that. And I can also see brands say, say one brand brings you all to represent their company. Another brand sees that so they go out and try to find their, you know, token, you know, and playing that, playing that game, you know, and that could be a dangerous game to play. But I feel like I feel like all the brands that I've seen so far they're genuine and what they're they're knowing they ask to believe and what we're doing and you know, long as we can keep showcasing what we're doing and, you know, doing it for the company, I think, I think we'll be fine. But it'll be a matter of time for people's reason that you, if you keep on knowing what you know because you'll tick those notes. So, yeah, my goal is 10k followers before the year is over, but I'm just some just posting, but I'm not getting the views that I used to have.

44:18So, I mean, you will. I mean, how many times are you posted today? Just what? Just once. Yeah, both that up to two, two times or three times a day and see what happens. But then I thought you don't, you don't want to spam it, though. Man, so, you know, trying to tell us, you know, you know, like, if you ever seen him. No, I don't think so. So, he's from Mississippi too. He's like a, he's a comedian. Uh, Ginger, I had to send you his, uh, this profile here a little bit, but he's like a comedian. He posts like three times a day. When he started posting like once, he's like, he wasn't really getting the views that he was, uh, I'm said, he, you know, wanted to get and then he started posting twice a day. And he started posting three times a day. And he felt, he felt, you know, if he found that three times a day it was like his sweet spot. So, and I was, I was the same way because I used only post maybe once, maybe twice a day. Most of the time it was once, but I'm like, you, I don't want to keep.

45:19I don't want to post something like in the morning and then post something in the afternoon because I felt like first when I posted, I don't get the views that whatever, but it works for some people and work, you know, it don't work for some people, but I mean, it's something, something I would try at least, but, um, consistency is the key. I tell everybody that, you know, you know, take a week off, you know, the algorithm's going to change. And you might post something and somebody might not see it. So if you're posting every day, keep posting, uh, keep the content, you know, it's clean as you can, but, you know, keep, keep you in it. Like you're person out and everything, you know, be genuine. I don't try to fake nothing, just be, just be you. So I tell everybody, no sponsors will come. Well, I wouldn't even be worried about sponsors, but if you want 10k right, either you, how do you get right now? 5,500 is something. We just in March. So yeah, you're good.

46:20You're probably a big way over there by January next year. Yeah, that's the plan, that's the plan. Yeah. Well, uh, so what's next for, for you, uh, I guess, would you take that platform or, you know, like your social media, your house, like what's, what's your five-year goal? What's your 10-year goal? Five-year goal. Well, hope, hope I can be monetized. I'll take, uh, because I think once you reach 10k and have like 100,000 views, you start getting paid. But like I said, I've only been live once, but I had joined someone else's life, but other than that, I mean, five-year goal. I will hope to have its three times as many the followers as I had of now. Yeah, yeah. And then I hope I can start doing collabs with people within the five to 10-year. Hmm. I just want to be big. Like I don't want that famous, like I don't want to be famous, but I want to be known, if that makes sense.

47:22It's, well, they're famous. Well, yeah, I get what you, I get what you're saying, but usually being known, that fame comes with, you know. Yeah, but, you know, but I get, you want, you want to still be able to go to Walmart and whatever and not be. Right. You know, right. Oh my god, oh my god, are you outdoor girl? No, like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. There's a lot of people I've met, you know, I go to the NWTF down in Nashville every year, you know, the wild turkey federation. And there's so many people, there's probably a hundred thousand people this year. Mm-hmm. For the first, this is probably the first year that I've been there that somebody actually recognized who I was. And it was a couple people actually. I was just like, you know me? You know, they're like, yeah, I'll follow you on Instagram. I'll follow you on TikTok. I'm like, man, I know all these people in here. And you know who I am? I was like, that's dope. It just makes you feel a certain way. So, you know, once you get to that,

48:24you know, I hope you get to that point, you know, and, you know, start getting this stuff monetized or whatever. And then maybe one day, you, I mean, that's what you can do for a living, like a lot of these, you know, people do. They hop for a living, they travel, make content, you know, that's dope. You know, that's, I mean, I wish I can do it right now, you know, I was still a go to school teaching every day, but maybe one day, I can just be, you know, hunting for a living. So, I hope that works out for you. Yeah, that remind me of one day, I was in the cab with some friends and, um, my friend homeboy. She was talking to him. And so, when I turned around, he was like, hey, enter the outdoor girl, one of your TikToks, I could just pop up on my phone. And I was like, yeah, then my friend, she was, yeah, so I left. She was like, oh my god, y'all, real TikTok famous. I was like, y'all so silly. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it'll be, you know, your time will come, just keep posting, stay consistent. And, uh, you've got, you got my information that if I can help you in any way,

49:24along the way, if you got any questions, uh, like tonight, I ain't big by no means, uh, I've had a lot of help on the way from a lot of people. No where near as big as I'd like to be, you know, people recognize me from my podcast. And I'm really not knowing it for the fame. I like stories. I like listening to people's stories. I like to hear, you know, how they grew up, where they grew up, how they got into the industry and stuff like that. You know, I'm just, I like, I like the story too. Uh, either from McCone with the safety, I don't know, I heard a Jerry Clare before. Are you? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we used to listen to him a lot, when we were stripping the backer. And, you know, listen to so many stories. And I think that's what my level of stories come from, especially listening to him, my grandmother, my grandfather. So I think that's what my level of stories and storytelling comes from. And, you know, that's kind of why I started a podcast

50:24is to listen to all those people and get their, get their opinions about stuff. And, you know, here we are. Good luck to you. And I appreciate you having on. And this portion is what I like to call Ratford Fire. I might ask you five questions or about five questions and whatever first thing that comes to your mind. Go with it. Oh, God. Okay. Okay. It's easy stuff. It's not, I'm not going to try to bust you here, it's just whatever comes to your mind. All right. Dear Hunter Hall Club. Dear. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, hall, hall, hall, hall, hall. Okay. Okay. Early mornings or late evenings. Late evening. Okay. Cold weather or hot weather, hunts. Cold weather. Okay. Six five cream more or three or eight. Fire no lanterns. Six five. Six five.

51:25Who's the, your dream person that you'd like to go hunting with? Oh. Man, that's a good one. Oh. I got to stop. I never thought of the only one person in the whole world who's like, hey, I'm about to take, you know, let's go hunting. Who you pick is? Does he have to be like a big time person or anybody? I really don't know, darling. Only two people that I really know him, besides family is like writing a key one. So I say between those two. Okay, that's cool. All right, the last one. If you could go hunt anywhere for anything, where are you going and what you hunt? Money is no out there.

52:27Oh, I say what Arkansas and deer. Okay, well, deer hunter, I get it. Yeah. Well, there it is. So how can people, you know, get ahold of you or follow your content? Like what's your, are you just on TikTok and you're on other platforms as well? Yeah, I'm on TikTok. I'm not too much on Twitter. I have an IG. I don't be active on it. It'll light and I do not post like my content on TikTok from there. So I'm anologist. TikTok. I'm just like HTTP that are three. Okay, my IG is double. I am more through you. Yeah, okay. Well, there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Follow her on TikTok. She's got some dope content. Hopefully, you know, she gets as big as she wants to get and, you know, share this so she can get her likes up. She can get her followers up so she can get to 10k by the end of the year.

53:28Yes, most definitely. I need that. I'll post some clips of this, this conversation when it, when it comes out, I'll probably post like one to three depending on what week you come that. So I'll try to tag you in all of them on TikTok and everything. So people can follow, follow along and watch this podcast and everything like that. So okay, thank you for having me. Yeah, thank you for hopping on and if I can do anything for you, along the way, man, just reach out, just holler and I'll do the best I can. Okay, we'll do. Sounds good. Well, if it's him, we do the four big games, small game, all game. We do this too. That's right. Appreciate you. You're welcome.