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All of the NATO allies agreed with us, but they don't want to, you know, despite the fact

that we helped them so much, we have thousands of soldiers in different countries all over

the world, and they don't want to help us, which is amazing, I mean, amazing.

And I didn't do a full court press because I think if they did, they probably would

be, but we don't, we don't need help.

Okay, President Trump, again, yesterday, complaining about NATO allies saying they're not helping

with the Iran War, while also claiming the United States does not need them, will bring

you the latest from the Middle East in just a moment.

Meanwhile, the President's pick to lead the Department of Homeland Security Senator Mark

Wayne Mullen will be on Capitol Hill today trying to convince his colleagues he's up for

the job.

That comes as top TSA officials warning of serious consequences at the airports, if the

partial government shut down now at nearly five weeks, drags on any longer and good morning.

And welcome to morning Joe, it is Wednesday, March 18th.

With us, we have the co-host of our nine-day-hour staff writer at the Atlantic, Jonathan Lumiere,

MSNOW, National Affairs analyst John Hylman.

He's partner in chief political columnist at Pock.

Columnist and associate editor of the Washington Post, David Ignatius, is with us, writer at

large for The New York Times, Elizabeth Bumiller is here, and senior writer at the dispatch,

and a columnist at Bloomberg, opinion, David Drucker is with us this morning and Joe,

a lot to cover, a lot of questions about the war in Iran, who's going to support the

United States, who's required to, and who wants to at this point in time.

A lot of questions, it's interesting the Washington Post breaking with the news this morning

that actually the gold states are now pressuring the President and the administration to stay

in this war, they don't want a beaten up, damaged, this Wall Street Journal, an angrier,

angrier Iran to survive. So the gold states, especially, you look at the UAE, the Saudis,

others, what the United States now that they're in to cripple the regime before ending the war,

that's not how they were sounding the first days of the war, but it's where they are there.

So we're going to get to all that. I do have to ask, so Jonathan Lumiere, did you stay up?

For Venezuela's victory, over the United States, on furloughly banners, the USA versus

Venezuela, this time it's personal and they got their revenge. The Nicholas Maduro ball. No,

I did not quite make the end. I watched for a while and, first of all, let's just say, what a

remarkable tournament this was, just so fun, each other's great, crowds were great, the players

cared, the enthusiasm shown through, but as we're watching here, Venezuela had jumped out to

a two-nothing lead. Team USA couldn't hit, but then Bryce Harper, he's a dramatic tying home run

on the 8th to two. You feel like the USA could do it, but there, Johannes Suarez for Venezuela,

that's being the game, there's here's the Harper home run on the 8th, we just skipped ahead,

we saw Suarez with what became the game winning RBI double in the 9th, and USA could not do anything

in the bottom of that inning. So Joe, 3-2, Venezuela, the final, and I think our two takeaways are,

this is a wonderful tournament, we'll be excited for three years from now. That's number one,

number two, the most important takeaway, captain of Team USA, Aaron Judge,

over four, three strikeouts yet again coming up small in a big swing. We all harsh there.

It's really nice. We do cheer for America, we really do. That doesn't mean we have to

take delight in the Yankees doing horribly, John Lamir, I'm absolutely ashamed of you this morning.

That's sad, that's sad, I will, I will say that our own Roman Anthony certainly had an extraordinary

series. You know, John Highellman, what's so crazy about this is we're watching,

we're watching this in March, man, and I said last week, my son went to again,

and it was like the DR versus Netherlands. We got a lot of baseball games. He said there's

the most electric environment he's ever been in, in a baseball stadium. How great this is. I

had no idea really when people started talking about this back three years ago what this was.

This is now, it's getting bigger and bigger and the excitement's pretty crazy in March for

baseball. Yeah, you know, it's like, I don't know where in the part of the world where you grew up,

it's like, we're on a baseball, it's like a year-round thing in Southern California,

so people were playing, you know, maybe people played Winter Leagues and you think about the

way the World Series, just kind of the actual World Series last fall, an incredible World Series,

even if you weren't a Dodger fan, just an amazing World Series, just sort of like the very next

thing on the baseball calendar has been this electrifying World Baseball Classic, Lamir,

and I were talking about yesterday, man, baseball, just baseball on a roll right now.

Newcasten really, apparently very happy in the Brooklyn jail, yes,

night two, I'm told by my sources on the inside, a lot of Nicholas Maduro celebration going on

over in Brooklyn. And let me, let me just say John Hylandman has a lot of sources on the inside

of that jail when he says he does, you can take him at his word. All right, Nika, so from baseball to

chaos, still gripping the Middle East, take us through the news. I'll do that, just Alex wanted me

to point out, it was Roman Anthony who struck out to end the game. You're in a great series.

So there you go. Well come on, you know, I really seriously, I do not just

give me information and I deliver it to the viewers. Yeah, portions always want whatever

yeah, seriously pro-regional. All right, let's get to work. He's always been from Maduro,

always been from Maduro. And once again, I got really sad. Okay, to the news now, strikes are

causing destruction in cities and towns throughout the Middle East this morning as Iran vows revenge.

For the killing yesterday of its top security chief, Israel's emergency response service as

at least two people were killed in the early hours today when an Iranian ballistic missile

hit central Israel where damage and debris can be seen from the impact. Iran also continues

to target areas near US embassies in the region. Renewed attacks around the embassy in Baghdad

sparked a fire in the fortified green zone hours ago. And Saudi forces say they shot down drones

today approaching the diplomatic quarter in Riyadh. This comes as the Washington Post reports the

State Department has ordered all US diplomatic posts worldwide to immediately undertake security

evaluations according to a cable reviewed by the paper. Israel meanwhile continues to ramp up its

airstrikes across Lebanon. Video this morning shows an entire building collapsing upon impact

shortly after the Israeli military warned residents to evacuate the area. The US military said last

night it struck Iranian missile sites along the Strait of Hormuz with five thousand pound deep

penetrator bombs in an apparent bid to clear the crucial waterway for oil tanker traffic.

There is also new reporting this morning on the growing anxiety among Iranian officials after

Israel took out a pair of regime leaders including the de facto ruler. As the New York Times puts

it quote they all wonder who would be next and the Wall Street Journal says the Gulf States

want the US to cripple Iran's regime before ending the war as they face daily missile attacks

and massive disruption to their economies. Meanwhile President Trump continues to criticize NATO

NATO allies for not helping US forces reopen the Strait of Hormuz all while climbing that the US

does not need their help. The president posted on social media yesterday morning claiming the

relationship with NATO was a one way street and then he wrote quote we no longer need or desire

their assistance followed by an all caps we never did. The president continued those very conflicting

messages moments later in the Oval Office. Well we don't need too much help and we don't need any

help actually in fact we just put out a notice I was watching over the last couple of weeks and

all of our NATO allies were very much in favor of what we did they thought it was a very important

we were just discussing it actually all of the NATO allies agreed with us and but they don't want

to you know despite the fact that we helped them so much we have thousands of soldiers in different

countries all over the world and they don't want to help us which is amazing I mean amazing

and I didn't do a full court press because I think if I did they probably would be but we don't

we don't need help I think NATO is making a very foolish mistake and I've long said that you

know I wonder whether or not NATO would ever be there for us so this is a this was a great test

because we don't need them but they should have been there so everyone agrees with this but they

don't want to help and we you know we as the United States have to remember that because we think

it's pretty shocking well even in the middle of a war one of the most significant wars in our

lifetimes Donald Trump's obsession with running down the alliance that helped defeat the Soviet Union

continues and he's been stuck on this for well over a decade now forgetting that it was NATO allies

who sacrificed time and time again for the United States in Iraq the first time the second time in

Afghanistan they've stood shoulder to shoulder with us for years so to be attacking them to be

attacking Ukraine at the same time making life easier for Vladimir Putin with sanctions relief

has a lot of allies and a lot of lawmakers on the Republican and Democratic side shaking their

head so David let's break things down this morning and when I say let's break things down this

morning I mean you break things down because you've got the great sources I am yesterday in our

newsletter I my opening statement said listen yet we were all wrong about Iraq if you were right

about the invasion you were wrong about the surge if you were right about the surge you may have

been wrong about us leaving in 2011 as abruptly as we did and about the need to go back and destroy

ISIS so I stand here humbly not able to predict what's going on but there there are two extraordinarily

two extraordinary truths that are going right now one is of course the truth that we talked about

yesterday and I quoted in the newsletter yesterday from the writer and Al Jazeera saying by all

military measures this is historic the United States is degrading in days what it took Iran

decades to build so that's on one side on the other side Mark Hurtling gave an absolute excuse me

chilling quote said it's been said the good tactics with bad strategy is the slowest way to lose

a war put another way if your ends means and ways or misaligned you can win all the battles and

lose a war and he quotes US Army Colonel Harry Summers Jr. and a discussion that he had with

Vietnamese Colonel two in 1975 you know Summers said you never defeated us on the battlefield to

reply that maybe so but it is also irrelevant when Mika read that she goes that sounds like

something my father would have said but but how chilling from Vienna you know you never beat us

once on the battlefield and the Vietnamese Colonel goes that's true it's also irrelevant

I'm not saying that's the case there but these are the two truths these are the two lessons of history

that we need to learn that often extraordinary tactics without extraordinary strategy

leads to a long defeat as it did in Vietnam as it did in the first Iraq second Iraq war

as it did in Afghanistan so take everything you know right now and tell us where we are in March

the 18th so Joe I think that dilemma is weighing on on President Trump when a war is going badly

when you're unable to find a way to terminate it successfully that's the most painful thing

possible for a president I watched that in my lifetime with President Johnson and then President

George W. Bush and it's it's it's a tough moment so breaking it down the level of tactical

success is extraordinary your viewers might want to look at the Wall Street Journal this morning

which has an incredibly detailed account of how Israel has been hunting down every element of power

in Iran finding people as they hide intense on the outskirts of town as was it was the case with

the leader of the besiege militia who they killed yesterday finding people who were gathered

in stadiums to seek refuge finding those stadiums targeting them taking them out

of finding individual guard posts where besiege militia were harassing Iranians taking them out

so it's it's an extraordinary campaign and every day it goes further there's more pressure on

the regime killing Ali Larjani who arguably was the most powerful man in Iran

finding him he was in hiding on the edge of the city according to these reports again an

amazing demonstration of success but the thing that Trump still hasn't found is a pathway to

ending this war ahead of us is what the Wall Street Journal is at a toil page this morning called

the Battle of Hormuz in other words the battle to reopen the state of Hormuz and put global commerce

back to normal Trump has to do it and he has two choices he can either do it by coercion

by military force landing Marines on hard island is one of the ways that's talked about we can

discuss later whether that makes sense or not or reopening it by negotiation there are mediators

from Qatar and Oman who'd love to be back in the business of trying to find a negotiated settlement

that allows cargoes to go back through the straight but that's that's his dilemma for Donald Trump

this war cannot end without a successful reopening of that straight and I have not yet heard from

anybody in the administration a clear plan for how to do that with an acceptable amount of force

in an acceptable period of time when our allies are saying sorry Charlie this is your war

we didn't want you to do this you started it now you got to finish it so that's that's basically

Joe what what I think Trump is struggling with today yeah my reporting lines up with what David

heard there in terms of administration officials know the straight of Hormuz that is the

the ballgame right now but there's no clear plan yet as to what to do there and that's why

despite what he said yesterday president Trump is so unhappy so so frustrated with the lack of

ally support because he knows the US really does need them or this job is going to get that much

more difficult and the risks involved to the US ships and to potentially a ground force there

very real and would only increase so Elizabeth you Miller I wrote as you see on the headline

there a story out this morning that that this is the Trump's daunting dilemma this is the decision

he has to make does he does he escalate the conflict you know with ground troops to achieve his

ambitious goals even though polls suggest it is deeply unpopular here in the United States

and Republicans are very afraid of what it could mean for the midterms including because the gas

prices continue to surge or does he declaim some sort of hollow victory pull out reduce the economic

pain but that would leave in Iran an embittered violent regime that would potentially still have

some control at least of the straight of Hormuz still have its nuclear stockpile and be completely

unwilling going forward to ever trust the US negotiation again correct you are correct and

they're in this once again there are no good options here at this moment for president Trump

and I'd like to also point out another dilemma he's facing by my colleague David Sanger wrote

this morning in the times which is that he has talked increasingly publicly about perhaps the

need to send in commandos to somehow seize or destroy the nuclear material that is under a

mountain it is so hot in Iran and he is talking more and more about this you know as we know what

what you see with the president is what is going through his mind at any given time and he's

talked about this and that's a very tough decision too it's highly risky it would put the going

after a song bin Laden that would look like a picnic compared to this and it would potentially

it could cause a you could there's canisters stored underneath this mountain they could rupture it

could cause radioactivity spreading all over the area also but also if you leave it there

Iran still has a bit of nuclear fuel that it can use this leverage and its source of its power

to very tough decision and what you see with the president every day is just this back and forth

about I want the allies I don't need the allies you know it is just what you're seeing is president

Trump thinking in real time that he doesn't know what his options are I mean he doesn't know what

to do right now it's a little alarming to watch it there's no there's no easy way out there's

no cutting and running if he does that of course David Drucker he leaves with the straits and chaos

and leaves with a possibility of oil eventually getting up to 150 a barrel it's only around a hundred

and I say only around a hundred that's really devastating for working Americans but many

predicted it would already be much higher as we get close to 20 days into this war I want to talk

about what we're seeing just just app first of all Joe Kent a conspiracy theorist but who

who was high up in the Trump administration yesterday quitting Tulsi Gabbard in a very muted

statement of seeming to put it all on Donald Trump the same Tulsi Gabbard and we'll show it later

when 2019 warned Americans that Donald Trump would get us into a stupid war in Iran

but I still we're all transfixed I know you and I have the same attitude have had basically

the same attitude about what we're hearing from you know this battle between Mark Levin

Megan Kelly Tucker Carlson Ben Shapiro and then as you moved sort of to the sort of

floating comedian slash podcasters Joe Rogan Andrew Schultz who are openly

embittered about this war um I you know it seems to me that at some point the Republican

base does start falling off like they did with George W Bush and the Iraq war I'm curious

any sense of that on the hill from Republicans any growing concerns that were almost 20 days

in and no closer to resolution well I don't know Joe that there's a concern that were 20 days in

and it doesn't appear that we're close to a resolution I think we have to understand this as

Republicans on the hill and the people in the trenches working campaigns knew that this was a

tough midterm election for Republicans to begin with as we rounded the corner from last year

into this year and you know there was initially some thinking in the late summer early fall that

this Trump presidency from a political standpoint was unfolding a little bit differently than the

first term some of the numbers suggested that and then with concerns about affordability the cost

of living and then now the mass deportation program things really began to unravel and we're

now in a place where Republicans that I talk to are talking openly about the Senate majority

being in play not that it's necessarily on its way out in the same way that the House of Representatives

is in is majority is on its way out likely but that it's in play and that's a new development

you know I think I like to look at this as this could surely impact and when I talk to Republicans

this could surely impact voter turnout for Republicans in terms of getting the full

element of the Trump coalition out in 2026 but I think what this really portends

is difficulty for the next Republican nominee to reconstitute the Trump coalition in 2028

because Trump's a unique figure obviously a lot of people have issues with him but on the

Republican side as I you know as I like to say and as the numbers show he's just normal enough

for the normies and he's just out there enough for the populists and the conspiracy theorists and

the people who think everything's rigged to get them to show up and they normally don't show up

because they just think there's no point in showing up because all politicians are the same

and so how do you recreate that coalition in 2028 this is where these splinters to me are very

significant and it's so similar to what we saw with Barack Obama and the Democratic coalition

once he was no longer a candidate the Democrats had a hard time you know putting together his

coalition and everybody thinks our thought Democrats out the Obama coalition was transferable it

wasn't like the Reagan coalition wasn't transferable like the Trump coalition just isn't transferable

especially after the wars after everything else you look me can JD Vance is just he's completely

disappeared because this obviously is the antithesis of everything he said during the campaign

that he and Donald Trump would be doing together and so it is it is fascinating time and right now

you can look at Republican polls that may show that 80 85 percent of Republicans are still with

the president some say it's in the 70s but for for people that are running campaigns for Republicans

they're not looking at that number so much as they're looking at party registration

how many people are voting in primaries how energized the base is and the danger here is

that Donald Trump in 2016 in 2024 was able to energize people that didn't usually get out and vote

those people are American firsters they hate wars they hate you know they're the people that

were shouting the loudest throughout the Epstein files you have all of these things that are not

going to show a massive collapse in polls for wars during during the middle of the war from Republicans

but those are the people who stay home midterms it's not about who gets out to vote so often it's

who's depressed who's who who's disappointed and their party in power and who stays home and right

now that seems to be a massive massive problem on the horizon for Republicans. Yeah still I had

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the 2026 primary season headed to Illinois last night voter selected lieutenant governor juliana

straten as their nominee for us and in the democratic primary she managed to overcome a

fundraising deficit thanks to backing from governor jb pritzker to defeat congressman raja

christian amorthy and robin kelly for the nomination straten will now face off against republic the

republican nominee don tracy the former state gop chair in november to fill the seat of retiring

senator dick durbin meanwhile governor pritzker ran unopposed in his primary seeking a third term

for the state's top office he'll face republican nominee darren baili this november in the

traditionally blue state joe uh... we're we're always looking ahead to the midterms

always looking ahead to the midterms and uh... meek i sent you a couple of commercials from

from a candidate in illinois's nine uh... regardless of what you think of her politics and people

are attacking her on all sides cat and i will not uh... uh... mess up her last name it starts with

that i'll just call her cat a and at some of the most uh... interesting commercials add

and there you go and when i looked at them i said okay this is the you this is a good view into the

future of campaigning in american politics john hylman i heard you laugh i know you know you know

she started with a smear an attack ad against herself and here's somebody it just moved into the

district recently uh... had been thrown around by ice agents in protest and nobody really gave her

a chance to win and she came very close to winning the democratic primary in being a member of congress

and in illinois nine but uh... story of the night really was not just that progressives a lot of

progressives lost it was also the fact that a pack uh... played such a huge role in tipping the

scales in fact a pack last night was bragging about beating cat and what they did was

when their candidate didn't win uh... did clearly didn't seem like he's gonna win they then

found a progressive that they piled a lot of money into yes to take votes away from cat a

and they were bragging last night a pack was that in fact it worked and it did work it took the

five percentage points away that she needed to win yeah cat and because i love who uh... was

former employee of mine the recap by the way uh... very well are you kidding me super bright uh...

super social media and digital media savvy she is gonna have a big future in in democratic politics

because she wants to have it whether you like her politics or not i'm not endorsing candidates

i'm just saying she is young and smart and gets the way the world of media networks and it took

a back on what you just at what you just said joe i think she would probably won that primary

uh... over the evidence to mayor daniel biss who is also a very progressive candidate he's not

uh... he's not a moderate by any means i think she probably won that primary if it hadn't been she got

it on the negative side coming from a pack and then she got it uh... as you said boosting our uh...

or other the other kind of far left candidate in that race but you're right a couple of the big

big headlines out of this out of this primary turn out for democrats again off the charts

rarely do you see a midterm primary that equals as this one did the turn out for

the last time there was a competitive democratic presidential primary which was in 2020

so that number is huge we're seeing uh... enthusiasm on the democratic side that's completely off

the charts the second thing big night for jb pritzker uh... who who backed in a very competitive

senate primary back to his lieutenant governor uh... and took a victory lap last night also

and then thirdly as joe pointed out down in every one of those primaries the furthest left candidate

got beat and and if there are republicans who were hoping uh... the democrats who are getting kind

we're getting to uh... full of hubris and we're going to nominate a bunch of unelectable candidates

as republicans have sometimes in the past uh... that does not seem to be happening certainly not

nilanoi where as i said a bunch of open a bunch of open seats and a bunch of kind of mainstream

progressives not all the a packback candidates one but you had a ton of outside money in there the

crypto guys were in there the a i guys were in there this was a big nationalized race and democrats

basically you know in every race uh... kind of pick the mainstream progressive candidate uh... usually

with some decent amount of experience in background uh... to to boost them through that uh... in the

general election they look very good nilanoi yeah agree with your takeaways there huge turnout

big night for pritzker who you know we all anticipate running for president so that certainly helps

and then indeed that the most progressive candidates lost and that ties in david drucker

was something you've written recently for bloomberg a new piece is titled your average democratic

voter isn't a left-winger very timely tell us more as to what you found out yeah there was a

democratic poll conducted for third way which is a centrist democratic think tank here in town um... and

you know what they discovered in a febuary poll conducted for them is that your your average

your typical democratic primary voter is a fifty five year old white woman uh...

fifty five plus white woman without a college degree or put it differently to be very specific

about statistics here a majority of democratic primary voters are white they're also women they're

also over the age of fifty five they also do not have a college degree and you know what's

so fascinating me about the poll is it it sort of tells us one of the things that we have seen

in democratic and you could say this about republican politics if we were doing that but generally

the most pragmatic presidential candidate of the bunch in a primary tends to win the presidential

nomination sometimes you have a candidate who could excite the base and excite rank and file

but every four years when there's an open primary you see candidates run to the right they run to

the left and most of their voters are somewhere in this larger middle right they want to win they want

electable candidates this poll also show that they want to fight her somebody's willing to take on

republicans but that they don't uh... their personal politics don't line up with the very far left

and every party has its wing when i spoke the third way after the poll and i said anything

surprised you about this and of course you know this is where third way lives are not much

surprised them but one thing did uh... which is the poll shows that that with fifty seven percent

of uh... democratic primary voters uh... your typical democratic primary voter calls themselves

or says that they are a christian um... and many say that they are evangelical or born again

and so what does that tell you that most democratic primary voters are like the rest of america

and somewhere another and that if you want to win in twenty twenty eight if you want to win that

primary instead of trying to satisfy every uh... group and every uh... questionnaire uh... from

the progressive left right look where most voters are and try and satisfy them

you know i i i i i took note of this in twenty nineteen i think it was maybe in the first democratic

debate where there's one of those stupid things where people raise their hands i don't know why

candidates say they'll raise their hands they yes but at one point i'm sitting there and they're

redebating busing and i think Joe Biden may have been the only person who said in twenty nineteen

that he would not support busing in twenty twenty i mean it was and i just said they're going this

is not the real these are people that are on twitter way too much and it seems to be the case

you had what fifteen sixteen candidates Joe Biden was the one moderate Joe Biden after being

humiliated in Iowa and being humiliated in New Hampshire Joe Biden won South Carolina and swept

through the primary someone lives with these numbers are crazy here if you live on social media

on the left forty three liberal and that's old line liberal uh... for thirty four percent moderate

only eleven uh... say their progressive six percent say their socialist five percent say their

conservative i'm sure there is a generational change here and we're we're finding younger democratic

voters being more progressive and more socialist i'm sure in five to ten years those numbers

might even out a little bit it's fascinating the average democratic voters of fifty five-year-old

white woman uh... and then you put on top of that people of color who are far more conservative

than those who are running the party and those who contribute to presidential candidates whether

you're talking especially about black women in church whether you're talking about Hispanics

who are showing time and time again that they are moderate and they're not going to fall

follow democrats over a left-wing cliff or republicans over a right-wing cliff

i mean it's really fascinating and something that i think democrats need to take hard and because

all the energy in these primaries especially presidential primaries seem to be how far left can i go

how can i say yes to every question on the on the uh... on the questionnaire how can i get the

most money from the most out of touch uh... extreme for left donors billionaire donors uh... in

a thing of the day the democratic party still one in the middle uh... you're right and i've this is

this is this is your leaning on an open door here i mean i have said this before but every single

democratic president of the last

decades is a moderate you know it's it's a brocco bomb a bill clinton jimmy quarter uh... you know uh...

uh... joe biden so it's that that's who gets elected in this country it is still uh... you know

it's still them but now this can change obviously they're the a.o.c uh... mom dot mayor bomb donny

has excited a lot of younger people and that so the democratic party could change in another

ten fifteen years we don't know yet but right now that is where that is where democrats are

it's not a surprise at all to me although it's interesting when you say david that um... that the

average uh... uh... democratic voter is a a white woman who is has no college degree because we

keep hearing that the democratic party is now the college of the of the of the the college educated

so there is a little bit of it this but you're talking primary voters i guess yeah yeah i mean

these are people that that that said they were going to vote in a democratic primary and they're

qualified that way right and and obviously the democratic party has uh... gained a lot of voters

who are college educated and looking at college educated or without a college degree is a good

way these days of kind of trying to figure out uh... with the party coalitions look like uh... but

you know i think what this shows is that when you think of the democratic party today it's true

that the center of gravity has shifted somewhat to the left versus where it was ten twenty thirty

thirty years ago i mean that is clear but the average democratic primary voter still thinks of

themselves broadly speaking as center left and not far left and they're very tolerant of candidates

that um... they may disagree with on any number of issues they just want to see their priorities

focused on and in particular what this poll showed and i think this is going to be important as

well for the candidates who run as they do want candidates who show a lot of fight right we've

talked a lot about this on the republican side of the rise of president trump uh... republicans

wanted a fighter well democrats are now in the stage where they want a fighter and that could

be down to the benefit of any number of these candidates um... but it's important to remember that

part of what helped trump become a fixture in the republican party is for all of his provocative

language and unseemly behavior republican voters viewed him as the most pragmatic candidate of

the bunch in twenty sixteen joe biden i think is a good demonstration of what democratic voters broadly

prefer center left not far left and it's um... you know i'm curious to see if any of the democrats

that run for president in twenty twenty eight we'll take this to heart

yeah and you know uh... mecha um... nobody here is saying it would be very clear that nobody

here is saying that that democrats are conservative or democrats or whatever are they want sort of

some mushy milthos candidates david said they want fighters to say they're not as progressive

as social media may suggest that i will say you look at you know you look at mayor mom donny

uh... this guy we had on we interviewed for about thirty minutes and he was keenly aware

to win the democratic primary uh... he did that he did he he had to understand the multiple factions

inside the party and he did very well you know i had had an interview with the shakago mayor weeks

before where i asked him five times to more cops on the street make shakago safer he couldn't

answer the question i asked mayor mom donny said of course of course they do we want community

policing we want and and snow removal you know he spent a lot of money you know doing the basics

getting snow removed crime in january lowest uh... january uh... uh... uh... crime stats

maybe in over fifty years so again it's not that democrats aren't electing progressives they are

it's that the successful progressives like mayor mom donny has very high approval ratings right now

understand uh... that that you know you just don't run to the far left you you have to engage

this in a paracobama was uh... extraordinarily successful in doing that democratic politics and

running for for election and progressives who understand how to do that uh... the really talented

ones uh... understand that and they win elections exactly writer at large for the new york time so

Elizabeth female are thank you very much for coming on this morning and david drucker thank you

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