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The Auron MacIntyre Show — War in Iran, Terror in Austin | 3/2/26. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Hey, everybody. How's it going? Thanks for joining this afternoon. I am Orrin McIntyre. Before we get started, I just want to remind you that one of the ways we keep the lights on around here is of course subscriptions to Blaze TV. So if you'd like to support what I'm doing and also get access to all that great behind the scenes content for your favorite Blaze TV host, make sure to head over to blazetv.com slash Orrin and use the promo code Orrin to get $20 off your subscription. Today, that's blazetv.com slash Orrin use the promo code Orrin to get $20 off your subscription today. All right, guys, let's go ahead and get started. You might have heard that over the weekend, you went to war in the Middle East. Again, so there's that. In addition to the next war in Iran, we also saw a terrible terrorist attack in Austin, Texas, which seems to be
directly related to the strikes in Iran. We'll get into that. And also, I made Ted Cruz really angry at me and he held it on Twitter. So I'll explain why in a moment, I guess we'll start with obviously the biggest news. We're going to war with Iran, even though we were told that wasn't going to happen. It was over. I think we were all there, right? Like I'm not going crazy. I feel like I might be going crazy as I kind of watch a reaction from people on Twitter in the media in the conservative commentary sphere. But I distinctly remember that we bombed Iran not that long ago. And the promise when we were bombing Iran at the time was we have to do this because Israel's already doing it, right? Like Israel's already doing this fighting. And we're just going to do this bombing run. And it's going to hit these facilities that Israel couldn't possibly hit. And you know, all it's going
to cost us is a few bombs out of an aircraft that they otherwise wouldn't have access to, wouldn't have the bombs for. And then we're done. Like that's it. It costs us fairly. Anything we got to fuel up a couple of jets, get them over there, drop a few bombs, get out, no casualties, no long, protracted, wars, no regime change. We just get the nukes and we get out. Now, I want Laidia. I was skeptical at the time. I've seen this movie before. But you know, it seemed like at the very least we held ourselves to that one mission. And at the time I was told that we had just blown up all of his or rather all of Iran's capabilities. Right, Laidia, they could not enrich uranium. They were no longer going to be able to build bombs, going to set them back. Not years, decades, decades, right? Now, at the time, even though the run had been successful, my concern, which I expressed was, well, there's no way
that you can really perpetually keep Iran away from a bomb without just putting boots on the ground. Regime change really is the only way to stop them from making a bomb. And so even if we, the mission was as successful as we claimed it to be, then we would still be in a scenario where at some point we're going to go have to go back and do this again. We're going to be in this kind of perpetual cycle of bombing Iran back to the Stone Age so they can start rebuilding because at this point, whether we like it or not, the access to a nuclear weapon is more or less sovereignty. The United States will attack someone like Iran because they can't stop them because they don't have a nuke, but they won't attack a place like North Korea, which is comparatively, militarily weak, but has access to a bomb. It's very clear that geopolitically owning a nuclear weapon is more or less the way that we
are going to secure our ability to operate. Now, I don't like that. I certainly do not want Iran to have a bomb. I do not, these people are not good people. They are no way, my friend. Even the other countries in the region who aren't Israel really hates Iran, we'll talk about that more in a second. It's not like, in many ways, enthused about this, but I at least want us to think before we just kind of throw these foreign policy decisions out about what our long-term goal is. Are we just going to go to war in Iran every few years or is there a better plan? Well, I guess the better plan is to just do the regime change. I guess, ultimately, the Trump administration came to the same conclusion I did and decided, actually, then we'll just do the regime change, since Orin's assessment of how to stop nuclear proliferation with Iran is correct, we'll just go ahead and do it. I hope they didn't take that as a suggestion, but here we are. I want to say a
few things at the outset. First, however you feel about this strike, the troops are our troops, and once we're in it, I want them safe and home as soon as possible, which means victory as soon as possible. So I am rooting for America. I know there are some people out there going, oh, well, you know, the troops are fighting for oil or whatever, and they signed up for this, and they're part of even, no, stupid, stupid, wrong. No. I am pro-America. I am pro-American soldiers. I am rooting for victory for the United States, even if I don't think this was a wise move, because at the very least it ends the scenario as quickly as possible. I want people to be safe. I want people to get home. I do not want to spend, we're going to spend treasure over there, obviously, because that's where my tax money goes. It goes to the Middle East, but it'd be nice if at least we didn't spend the maximum amount of blood there, because I grew up in the generation where, you know, I grew up
on military bases. I did not serve, but I knew a lot of people did. I'm friends with lots of people in the military, and I grew up in a generation where I know a lot of people who lost friends. I lost friends. I know a lot of people who are permanently scarred from their time in the global war on terror. And look, people who signed up for the military, they know what they're signing up for. I don't want to paint these people as in any way infantile or victims, you know, but at some point, I want what they did to be something that they think is worth that. And when I got over and over from my friends who got deployed from to Afghanistan and Iraq, is it wasn't worth it. At the end of the day, we walked away, these regimes that we tried to prop up failed, the people we tried to defeat end up rushing back in, it just wasn't, you know, worth what I lost in the sand there, you know, and that that's the worst possible outcome
that an honorable person goes out there to fight for their country and returns saying, my brothers died and my country just gave up on the things we were supposed to be fighting for. Like that's pretty brutal. And so I thought we kind of had a general consensus because Donald Trump literally campaigned on it his entire time. That regime change hours were not what. He said that so many times it's not even worth playing the montage of clips. He famously broke out in the Republican primary for mocking George W. Bush's regime change wars to Jeb Bush's face. He insulted Jeb Bush. This was a scandal at the time. The Republican party was furious at Donald Trump for attacking the idea of regime change wars that the war in Iraq or the war and Afghanistan they just don't count right. So I thought we kind of all had an understanding of this
and even up to the point where you know guys like JD Vance and Steven Miller have like prominent appearances on television and tweets mocking the idea that we would ever have in a regime change war in Iran. Like Steven Miller literally accused somebody on Twitter of just completely lying that this was fake news conspiracy. The idea that the Trump administration would ever initiate a regime change war in Iran. Like he says no Joe Biden was the guy who's going to start foreign wars and send your kids to the Middle East. That was what people who are key in the administration were saying like a year ago. But here we are. And I already see people saying oh well it's not a war. But there aren't boots on the ground and all these other coats man like all these coats. Actually Donald Trump has said it's a war and Donald Trump has specifically said it's a regime change war. And we have already had Americans killed
and they have already said that they're going to put boots on the ground if they need to. So like I get it like I want my team to win too and I value loyalty to my team too. I really do. Sometimes you just got to lock it in and get through things. But I'm sorry like this is really what we voted on like this is it that we were going to get stuff done in the US and that we weren't going to spend all our time on foreign policy that we weren't going to involve ourselves in nation building and regime change and all this stuff. And people who are out there coping and saying oh well that's not what we're doing. Well then you should probably talk to the president of the United States because he doesn't agree with you. And I'm going to trust what he says about what we're doing before I trust you who I don't know. I don't even know what people are doing at this point. It's embarrassing. Like the number of people out there just absolutely shredding their credibility over this issue is insane. Again I'm not too good to play on the team when we need to get things done.
I've told people to sit down and shut up on things I cared about because I knew there was something more important for the Trump administration to get done. We'll talk about that a little more in a second. But at some point you get to the core of the issue okay. I wanted Donald Trump to be president for a few key things. Immigration and foreign policy. Those were the big things I wanted Donald Trump to change in the way that he had promised. Now Donald Trump obviously had some military interventions but he was relatively restrained and it seemed like that was something he would like to continue. Again all greeted on a scale. I know there were still military interventions but comparatively these are things that Donald Trump is very good on and I want to be clear. The Trump administration is still the best. The best administration I have seen on immigration period. Not sufficient we still need way more deportations but we have negative immigration.
The borders are functionally closed. We are seeing deportations though nowhere near as much as I want and Donald Trump has done much better on these issues than anything else and for that Donald Trump continues to have my support but this is the problem because even if I didn't care about the foreign policy misadventures it affects what we can do domestically. It affects what we can do on things like deportations and that is my main concern. My main concern is the political ramifications of this. I can't control the military ramifications. No one's listening to me on military policy and that's fine. It's not like I've got direct experience but what I do know about is how this could impact our politics domestically. What it can do to stop us from achieving the domestic goals that I was hoping to see and that is what worries me the most because you're going to notice that a lot of people in the conservative commentaries fear who said shut up,
get behind Donald Trump for the election. Stop talking about abortion. It's bad for us. We don't care what Christians say about abortion just get in line and vote and you know what? I also had that opinion. I said look I get you. I care about abortion as an issue too but Donald Trump has already done more for you in the pro-life arena than anyone else and it's better for you to be quiet and get this guy elected even if he doesn't say exactly what you want him to say than it is for you to go out there and burn this bridge down. So I was one of these people. However almost none of those people seem to have any concern over what this war is going to do to the midterms to Donald Trump's domestic agenda. You're hearing almost not a peep from any of these guys who were so encouraging you to shut up about a key issue like abortion and I just want consistency. I'm trying to be consistent. I said yeah you got to quiet down on the abortion stuff because we
need to get Donald Trump back in the White House to be able to do other stuff and he'll probably do the abortion stuff you want eventually anyway too. But I'm also consistent in saying guys we have to care about what foreign policy is going to do our domestic credibility. We have to care about these elections as much as we cared about the last election. If we're going to expend political capital on something incredibly unpopular let's do mass deportations. It's going to cost us the same amount of money right like we're going to we're spending billions and billions and billions of dollars to go bomb Iran. So why don't we spend that money here getting rid of illegals deporting people who don't belong here. If we're going to do things that are hard and unpopular anyway and that are going to lose us political capital then let's do the deportations. It seems obvious it seems simple and yet somehow we won't. Now right after these attacks in Iran
we had a terrorist attack in Austin, Texas a Muslim immigrant from I believe Senegal who like apparently like worshipped the Iranian leader like had a caran in his car had a Iranian flag in the house along with a picture of you know the leader and just even was wearing a hoodie a hoodie that said property of Allah on it right this guy walked in and shot up a bar in Austin, Texas and killed two people and injured another 14. I mean we don't have an official announcement on what his motivation is but you could probably put the pieces together. Now I want to be clear some people will go out there and say oh well the US bombing Iran caused this and I don't think that's the way you should frame things because frankly you know I don't care if something we do pisses off some evil psychotic Muslim guy
like I don't care about that I care that that guy is in my country in the first place but this is why it matters to put your domestic agenda first because if we were doing deportations like even if you're like the world's most rabid neocon and we should just go around spreading freedom and peace and democracy stapling constitutions to every Muslim's head we can find even if you believe that we should do the deportations first because if you don't do the deportations first then you get these kind of consequences you get consequences like terrorism because these people shouldn't be here in the first place and this guy was a legal immigrant so he wouldn't have even been deported in the illegal immigrant deportation but we should be looking at denaturalization of people who are not loyal to the United States we should stop importing people like this and if they're here we should be sending them back whether they're legal or not and if you solve that problem then maybe you can go out and do some foreign policy
adventurism as a treat you know what man I'll give you that one you get every illegal out of my country you get every disloyal foreigner out of my country even if they're naturalized bomb whatever you want man I'll give it to you it's yours okay but if you're not going to prioritize that you lose my support very quickly you start making me wonder what we're doing here because again everyone in the leadership of the Trump administration including Donald Trump specifically talked about how stupid wars like this are now we've had this creeping advance and at every point I've tried to find the way forward for the United States and to find ways to support because I knew ultimately don't Trump's still the best chance you have on things like deportations so first we bomb Iran okay I don't like it but fine at least it's quick we're in and out
they say we were successful okay right fine then we go into Venezuela well okay I don't like that like we're obviously getting rid of the head of state but the operations impressive it's well planned it's a perfectly executed we don't seem to hang around we don't seem to be interested in actually like changing the regime as much as we just get take out the head and the next guys like okay I guess I should probably work with you like we're not going in and building the nation rooting out a network we just kind of topple one guy and get out there again I don't like it but at least it's in our hemisphere Monroe doctrine okay guys I'll I'll I'll try to give you that but now we're just fully in the Middle East nothing to do nothing to do with the Monroe doctrine and we're not just striking the bad guy we already killed the supreme leader we don't we don't have to keep going right but we're not like we've we've already bombed and you know the administration's
they're at bragging like we we killed like 50 of their top guys right away in the leadership basically decapitated the country's entire leadership fantastic let's go home but we're not in fact we're being told now that it could take four or five weeks we projected four or five weeks maybe longer we'll stay as long as we need to and you know we were told we will be boots on the ground and now they're saying well if we need to put boots on the ground we'll put boots on the ground because our objective is regime change and you can't do regime change with just with bombs I've been talking about this for a long time I've been quoting Bakia Valley on this okay everybody thinks that the new technology it was back in his day it was artillery you know then it's it's nukes and drones and whatever always eventually have to deploy troops if you want to do stuff like that you eventually got to put troops on the ground that's just the way it is okay denying this you know lying to yourself about this thinking that you can fundamentally change the dynamics
it doesn't work it doesn't work and we've seen it over and over again so this is going to happen now look I get it like ultimately you can't go out there and just tell your enemy how long you're going to be involved because they'll just wait you out until then you can't announce well we're leaving on you know next Tuesday so whatever we get done we get done and then you know we'll leave it there like I get it that's part of the military operation but this is also why you don't involve yourself in this stuff because unless you are really truly willing to commit to being there as long as necessary and doing whatever is necessary then you're going to fail and even if you are committed to doing those things as we've seen the United States can hang out for 20 years and still fail we are not good at this we have proven that to be the case and now I'm hearing from a lot of people that well you know the problem with neo-conservative foreign policy was just that they weren't doing
it right and downtrums going to be good at it oh okay okay um so some of us well I should say this there has been a growing understanding that Papu canna was more or less right on things like immigration national identity foreign relationships foreign wars we've been hearing that more and more even from very mainstream people Papu canna was right in fact it's been very popular to even for a lot of mainstream conservative commentators say yeah ultimately Papu canna was right and you know they'll walk back and say oh you know I never I didn't I may have supported the Iraq war but that was a mistake and and we won't be that foolish again and it turns out actually they'll do exactly that again and I don't know I like I'm one of these crazy people who actually believed what I said when I said Papu canna was right like I actually meant it okay I had this crazy notion
that we were saying things we believed it but apparently we weren't and all we really needed was a George W Bush that would George W Bush harder now I don't think that downtrum wants to be George W Bush and I hope that that ultimately is not the route that he'll be on but the last few foreign intervention you know excursions have made me worried that that might be the direction we're going now again I should say at the outset I am hoping for victory I am hoping the US gets this done as quickly and as without American blood spilled as possible and I hope they prove me wrong I hope I'm extremely wrong about the outcome about this I'll say it right at the outset I'd rather be very very wrong and have America win that is what I am hoping but the reason that I counsel against
this is that I don't think it's going to work not because I hate Trump or America or don't support the troops or anything because I love all those things and support all those things and I want them to win and succeed but I'm not going to sit around and say yeah man like yeah just just keep sawing your arm off it'll be fine like if you care about something care about someone you tell them to stop you know sawing their arm off you don't say yeah whatever whatever I've seen other people bleed out after they saw their arm off but this time you're going to do it right and we'll be fine like it just does not look good now again we were told that this air strike from last year had completely devastated Iran's capability completely obliterated it that's what Trump said over and over again and then we started to get these mixed messages well they they might be developing again okay but like we set them back decades right so what's the big deal
like they're they're going to be way way too far away from a bomb like we don't have to worry about this we can get back to the important stuff we can get back to the domestic stuff except then we start hearing oh they might be weeks away like Steve Whitcoff literally said that they were like two weeks away from having the bomb again now how can that be how can you set back a program by decades I'll completely obliterate it and then it be back in like nine months to the place where it's going to have nukes in just a few weeks and we've heard this forever right this Iran has been two weeks away from having nuclear weapons since I was five we've heard this from every president it's really prime ministers generals it's just never been the case and yet we keep saying it and now we're saying it in places where it's just ludicrous it's just ludicrous right and they can't even seem to get the messaging straight on this one
because we have guys like Ted Cruz coming out and saying things like this yes, Ted is they were building nuclear weapons a year ago and our bombing took that out they also had an ongoing desire to rebuild them I don't have present day intelligence on what progress they had made towards rebuilding nuclear weapons since we bombed their facilities I have no indication that that they were anywhere close to getting nuclear weapons because our bombing was devastating so Steve would cost us we got to go to war with Iran because they're a few weeks away from having a bomb and then Ted Cruz comes out and says actually we have no evidence that they're anywhere close we really have no intelligence on where they're at since we bombed them okay so I pointed out the problem with this that we were getting inconsistent stories and Ted Cruz
jumped on Twitter and like in all caps was screaming at me I think you did it in all caps they screaming at me oh well let me break this down into smaller words I said we blew up all their stuff and they can't make nukes now it's like yes that that's what I said that's what I said you said why are you yelling me for for agreeing with what I said that you said but he didn't address the fact that that is itself a contradiction either they're two weeks away and we know that and we have to go to war with them or they don't have the capacity and you're saying not only do they not have capacity you don't even see intelligence where they're at but we have but they're an imminent threat they're an imminent threat even though you don't know where they're at now again I will remind you Iran is full of really really bad people I don't mean every person I ran I mean them you know the garden and everything involved and so like I have no love loss for these people and I'm certainly you know these people have
sponsored terrorism like I'm not going to pretend they are just no threat at all to any American I don't think that's true again many of the people in the Middle East are you know not that broken up ultimately that Iran might get you know get get punched in the teeth because they don't like Iran either like they're not even popular in the Middle East so again this is not like me saying oh well these poor harmless Iranians just want to live in peace and there's nothing wrong with like no obviously I do not want these people to have a bob but what we're saying here is they don't have a bomb they're not even close to having a bomb we haven't seen anything indicating that they are close to having a bomb in fact we don't even have intelligence that really tells us if they've done much getting back to building a bomb anyway but they are an imminent threat and this also creates the other problem I'm being told simultaneously that Iran is a pushover will be done in a few weeks stop stop panicking you know trust the plan
like we'll be in and out of there really quickly it'll be easy but also Iran is an imminent threat that had to be dealt with they're a danger to everyone they're direct threat to the United States one of those things cannot be or both of those things cannot be true one of those things has to be false they cannot be incredibly dangerous and we have to worry about them you know just destroying America but also we can like bomb them over a weekend and call it a day this is just not going to be one of those things can't be correct either they aren't that big of a threat and we can take them out easily or they are a huge threat and it's going to cost us and this is my concern the messaging here is sloppy and dangerous because you haven't justified this to the American people when we went into Iraq the first time at least we talked about the weapons of mass destruction at least the at least all of the evidence was being presented it turned out to be a lie but at least they went through the process of lying to us
about weapons of mass destruction this time we're not getting any of that that the United States has not been attacked in a 9-11 style attack the United States is not you know facing a direct threat from from mass casualties the United States is just not in the same position and it has not been afforded the same explanation as to why we would need to go fight this battle so that means that these strikes are going to be unpopular and again I warned people about this and we're already seeing that even among Republicans the numbers are very bad now you can say okay we'll polls yeah that they're not accurate fair enough I've argued against the accuracy of poll numbers plenty but you know even without the poll numbers my intuition would simply be this is the case the poll numbers do reflect that if you want to throw them out that's fine but if you really think that this is a super popular move you need to get outside of your Twitter bubble you need to talk to somebody outside of your incredibly like Fox News sphere because I didn't even think in the Fox
News audience this is probably as popular as they wanted to be so I also have additional problems here which is the timing I don't know if you remember this but last year when we did our bombing it was made very clear to us that initially the United States did not intend to be involved in the bombing of Iran and then Israel went ahead and started its strikes anyway and they said well we just need the you know American plane to come in and bomb we just need the the bomber to come in and drop the big bomb and that's it and we'll be done and so America even though they didn't want to be involved kind of got coerced into it but you still couldn't get you know the the different ceasefires I remember uh Donald Trump getting on social media and begging BB not net and you know how you like stop bombing people right like it becomes clear at some point that we kind of don't have a handle on our greatest ally that our greatest ally can kind of go rogue
and do things that we don't really want them to do well now we got reporting out of I believe is the Washington Post again mainstream media maybe they're wrong I don't know I haven't seen the administration push back against it but maybe they will saying the Marco Rubio delivered intel to different members that come the gang of eight you know key people in the House Senate whatnot and told them that basically Israel was planning to go strike anyway and so our options were go strike with them now or basically be pulled into war when I ran inevitably retaliates back against Israel's strikes after you know or rather I ran you know it retaliates in response to Israel's strikes two targets that will be tied to American security so like one way or another we're more or less getting bullied into pulling this trigger I've heard similar stories uh you know
of Trump's reluctant uh sent to this plan um from different angles uh some of them mainstream some of them uh more behind closed doors I I can't tell you the truth of any of these things I am saying that there is a disturbing pattern that seems to be emerging here where American foreign policy seems to be dictated more or less on the timeline of an inconsistent ally when they feel like it oh I guess we don't have any other choice I guess we gotta go do this now I don't know man are we like the global headgemon why like what why why would we alter our plans one bit for people like why don't we set the agenda why don't we set the stage why don't we make these decisions ourselves it just it just doesn't seem healthy for us to be you know in any way adjusting like really serious policies decisions based on however another country happens to be feeling that day about launching yet another military strike I just don't I don't understand the advantage and like I said the fact that you have so little explanations to the
American people about what's going on and you've had this is such a 180 from the rhetoric of the administration previously it's going to hurt you like it it's going to it's going to hurt you politically even if you're successful like right now if you're successful like very successful and this is good for the Middle East and good for the United States you might basically get back to neutral like you might kind of get back to the place where people are like all right I wasn't a big fan of the strike but it worked out and that's what matters right so I guess I guess we'll forgive him and that that's kind of your best case scenario at this point your worst case scenario is we get bogged down and yet another regime change war in the Middle East and all of the electoral implications and all of the domestic implications come to fruition because when you do stuff like this it costs you political political capital people say oh well you know we can do both we can do deportations
and you know regime change wars in Iran I don't know man we haven't done either of those by themselves so why don't we try doing one of those before we try to do both and honestly I don't believe that you just have infinite political capital doing stuff like this costs you don't Trump was already seeing a dip in his poll numbers because he was doing hard stuff like deporting people and it was you know you were seeing kind of the conflicts with ice and everything and people were starting to question now that's hard but I'm not going to live and die by the poll numbers when we're doing something that's critical like deportations it's got to get done and once you get it done it actually makes your getting elected easier because you don't have to worry about all these illegals coming in and voting for Democrats through all of you know the the shifty voting that they do or the attempts for amnesty that are still going on all that stuff it's a win that helps you win more in the future nothing about the Iran strike helps you win and nothing about the Iran strike
helps you win in the future it only hurts you it makes it harder to win elections it makes it harder to win votes it loses you political capital and political momentum we're not going to be doing major deportation pushes while we're in an extended conflict in Iran it's just not going to happen and so this is going to cost us something I don't think it's worth it I don't think it's worth it I don't think that it benefits us enough to sideline the entire domestic agenda to go doing foreign policy and I also don't think that the problem with neo conservatism is that it just wasn't efficient enough again when some of us said we believe Pat Buchanan was right we mint it like we mint what we set and I'm not just going to sit here and pretend like well well I guess we completely change everything that's fine because Trump no I think no that's not okay
they're again it's not just this has the same problem that the Epstein files had right you can say okay well the Epstein files they're nothing burger Epstein files you know they're just this albatross around Trump's neck but the problem was that like Kashphtel and Dan Bongino and you know all of these people went out and built their careers people like Pam Bondi built careers around talking about how the Epstein files were dangerous even JD Vance said we got to release the Epstein files so when all of a sudden your administration says whoa whoa whoa we're not I'm releasing the Epstein files and if you ask us about the Epstein files you're probably some agent of the Democratic party people start to get worried they start to say what's going on here and when you have Donald Trump and JD Vance and Stephen Miller and all these people going out and saying we will never do a regime change award I ran regime change wars are stupid we're done
with that kind of politics don't be ridiculous we're not going to put ourselves in that position that would be insane and then they go out and do it people have questions I think pretty understandable questions about what we're doing here and telling people just shut up it will be fine it's not really a war okay well it might be a war but it's not a regime change bar okay okay well maybe it's a regime change war but you know we're not going to lose any Americans and okay well maybe some Americans have died but we're not going to put boots on the ground okay well we might have to put boots on the ground but come on man what am I really supposed to shut out all ability to reason all pattern recognition all ability to draw conclusions from previous experience just because I need more I need more there is there are scenarios where I could be convinced we have to go to war
I'm not a isolationist in the sense I'm not like an anti-war libertarian I do think that wars are a necessary part of statecraft and they will happen but I need some kind of justification beyond well they don't have nukes and they're not going to have nukes for a long time because we already got rid of that but they were a threat because reasons so we're going to go there now yeah we said that doing this in the past was stupid and we promised we would never do it in fact we attacked people who said we would do it as liars but we are going to go do that now and you kind of just need to shut up about it sorry I can't do that I just can't now again I'm not running around and saying oh I'm done I'm done with Republicans and I'm not I'm done with Trump and I'm I'm you know caching in my chips and you should go vote for Kamala Harris or something like no of course not Donald Trump is still the best president we have on immigration immigration is
still my key issue I'm not abandoning that for the promise of some ideologically pure candidate down the road hopefully we'll get one but I'm not banking on it now but this is just a bad idea and I'm not going to shut up and say it's a good idea because I do want Trump to then go do other good things yeah Trump should keep the border closed he should continue and accelerate deportations I support him in every bit of that I stood up behind the Trump administration when people were yelling about me about ice attacking me oh how could you you know how should you support this Gestapo no I was there I was defending the Trump administration I was defending I didn't flinch on that but I'm sorry that doesn't mean I'm just some blind ideologue that doesn't mean I just I'm gonna shut up whenever I see a bad decision being made now again I hope I'm wrong I hope we wrap this up in a week it's over we don't have to worry about it
that would be great I really sincerely hope that's the best outcome or I know that's the best outcome so I sincerely hope for it but I would be a fool and a liar dishonest I'd be useless to you or anyone else in the Trump administration if I just shut my mouth and said yeah okay boss that's not what I do that's not what people watch me for that's not why people listen to me so I'm not gonna do that because it's not helping them and it's not helping the Trump administration it would just be dishonest and if you think that yelling at me and say we'll just shut up just just trust the plan on this one is gonna solve that problem for you it's not I want Trump to win and I think Trump winning means not involving himself and constantly informed policy now there are positive outcomes that could occur here Trump might be able to leverage just in this in some way to force Putin to consider ending the
Ukrainian war I think you could just pull your money out of there but okay it could cut off supply lines to China reduce a critical reduce their hold on critical resources and trade routes okay that would be great again I hope that is the actual end of this I hope that really is what happens I'm not saying there are no benefits for the United States for doing this but we have had this conversation before Iran is not gonna become a free and prosperous nation because we hit them with enough bombs they're just not they're not gonna necessarily greet us as liberators because we killed the Ayatollah like that's just not how it works we've tried this it has failed we understand that so what are we doing here we can't get consistent answers we can't get consistent understandings from just came off a fantastic state of the union he seemed to be getting
momentum back and now this and I'm worried now maybe I shouldn't be maybe I'm foolish but at least I'm honest I don't know at least I'm telling you what I think is real and I'm providing consistent reasoning and arguments as to why it matters my priority is getting people who shouldn't be in this country out of this country that's what I care about to the extent that you make that easier I'm on your side to the extent that you make that harder I'm against you and this makes it harder there's just no way in which bombing Iran going to war with Iran putting yourself into a regime change war with Iran considering putting boots on the ground in Iran there is no way that helps me deport people from the United States it doesn't so I don't see the positive here for the things
I wanted Donald Trump to achieve the things that he promised to achieve the things that he and his staff repeatedly said they were going to achieve and they're engaging behavior they specifically told me was dumb it's one thing to engage in a foolish action it's another thing to say this action is foolish and immediately turn around to do the thing and I have not gotten a non like the only answers I have gotten as to why regime changes suddenly a good idea are just pure propaganda now I'm not against propaganda necessarily I understand it's the utility I've made those cases but I have not gotten a single reasonable answer from the actual administration about why this isn't just more of the same other than we're going to do it right this time okay maybe there is a magical formula for proper neocon regime change wars and we just didn't
do it hard enough previously but I am skeptical and I think it's reasonable for me to be skeptical I think pretending it's not reasonable to be skeptical about that is itself entirely dishonest and I don't have time for it we've already got dead troops we've already got planes that have fallen out of the sky apparently friendly fire from Kuwaiti air defenses is what we're going with I don't know for sure at all but weren't this is not a bloodless war on the American side already we're already talking about putting troops on the ground we're already talking about extended commitments so I'm not feeling great about this and I think it's okay to say that I think it's reasonable to say that I think it is behooves the administration to be crystal clear about objectives motivations and justifications and we have just not seen that
at the same time I don't know guys again I don't think you got the political capital to do both but maybe try to do a major deportation action while you're in the middle of this to show me you can walk in Chugam because you haven't been very great at Chugam and you just got okay at walking so I'm a little concerned about the idea that you're going to just crush both I want people who aren't supposed to be here to go home I want the kind of people who shoot up a bar in Texas because they love the leader of Iran to go home I want you to do that before we go bombing places like Iran I think that's reasonable get the deportations done and then we'll talk about the empire but for the love of God please focus on the deportations again I'll re-emphasize before I go to the questions here I am rooting for America I am rooting for our success I am rooting
for the troops the best outcome at this point is total American victory so that's what I'm rooting for and if that makes people say oh well then you were just wrong about the soren fine fine I'd rather have that happen than anything else but that doesn't mean that concern is not reasonable I've even seen people who are running around worrying about the panicking class now saying oh well I don't know Mr. President we probably shouldn't be talking about putting boots on the ground like even Eric Prince is out there saying they should not have done this this is foolish so you know it's not just my silly opinion plan trusters you know warlords are all saying I don't know boss this one doesn't seem great Matt Walsh is out there saying what are we doing this seems stupid Mike Benz plenty of people who are relatively well-respected are going out there it's in
I don't think this is the best idea man so I don't think it's crazy to voice that opinion and if you've got a better one then you should make your case but you should actually make the case and not run around insulting everybody now look there are plenty of people out there who are saying dumb things oh well the United States should lose troops should blah blah no that's all stupid that's evil first it's just morally reprehensible so you shouldn't be saying that anyway or feeling that way but even if you did just tactically it's dumb because you're just feeding the very people that you dislike all the ammunition they need because they can just point at that guy and be like anybody who disagrees with this action their unpatriotic just like that guy so all of that stuff is gross and dumb and the you know the enemy your enemy is not your friend like all that stuff know that's stupid but this is not good and I don't think it's wise and I don't think we should be doing it and I don't think it's going to work and while I really hope I'm wrong about that it's not my job to shut up about it so I'm not going to I'm going to do my best to give the correct advice
as I see it and I could be wrong I've been wrong before but I would not be doing anyone a service by going around and just shilling like yeah whatever just shut up it'll be fine get Americans boots on the ground whatever sorry like I just I I'm not going to do that and if that's what you need from somebody then there I'm sure there's plenty of people out there doing that right now and you can go watch them but you're not going to catch it here so that said pray for the troops pray for those have already died for their families pray for healing the for those that are wounded both in the tear attack and in the war pray for a swift in pray for safety and peace because that's really at the end of the day all you can do we're all monitoring the situation but none of us are making these decisions they've been taken out of our hands so the best we can do is pray for a good and safe outcome for our troops so they get home
back quickly and ultimately you should want what's best for America not to be proven right or wrong that's what you really should be caring about all right guys let's go to the questions of the people here real quick red dragon says born too late to die for zon born too soon to die for zon I'm assuming they're trying to say Israel in code here somewhere but yes the the classic joke is born born too early to go to war in the Middle East born too late to go to war in the Middle East born just in time to go to Middle East look I do not of course know at what level Israel entirely a form of this decision but from the reporting we've gotten it was not a small part and to the extent that exists it's bad and I think everybody can kind of see that and I just don't understand just stop doing this we don't need Israel and Israel shouldn't
need us we are sovereign countries we should not be determining each other's military strikes we shouldn't be determining them for Israel Israel shouldn't be determining them for us I just don't know what else to say about it no I'm not grim from red writing it says no new wars a yeah that's uh something that we talked about so much extremely proud of Dom Treblist is one of his highest accomplishments I mean it's all there I'm not you don't have to like you don't have to clip anything out of context you don't have to isolate anything it's not one offhand comment all the evidence is there I don't know what to say Elijah time and says uh Trump's immigration tear regime regimes are based on executive orders and can be repealed by the same 90% of the lasting non-refundable changes being made our John McCain's wish and this not Pat Buchanan's yeah that's a very good point uh unfortunately a
lot of Trump's domestic wins because they have not been codified by Congress uh we'll go away if he or J.E. Vance doesn't succeed him uh and most of the things that he's doing militarily will stay in place because obviously they're they're hard in kinetic consequences so effectively all the domestic victory is that he is securing uh could evaporate immediately and all the foreign policy actions he's taking uh will be permanent um that's not good and that's why I wish we would just focus on you know if we I know it it should not be easier to topple the Iranian regime than to pass a bill that says you have to show voter ID when you go to polls and if it is easier to topple an Iranian regime then it is to pass the save act then I submit to you dear viewer that perhaps there are things about your political system that are not working properly and might require
very serious action to result many you'd says the world is full enough of hurts and mischances without wars to multiply them again you know I mean obviously Tolkien is a guy who went through world war one so he knows far more than I will ever know about something or new far more about that than I ever will but I again I'm not constitutionally against war I'm not some guys like well you can just never go to war I'm not one of these like super anti-war libertarians but this one just makes no sense I can't get an answer and I'm in professional politics man like I'm sorry this is not okay like somebody look I yeah I wouldn't be broken up if we figured out the monarchy thing but you got to do the monarchy thing you can't just say well don't you know we don't have to give you answers to why we're going to war if you're not going to you know do the rest of the monarchy thing you don't just get that benefit I don't know I'm not that grim red writing hood says or and stop being a
panicking yeah yeah lots of that going around lots of that going around though now like I said the people yelling panicking are themselves starting to ask questions so that's fun SM249 says I didn't have Trump starting a religious war in my bingo card this year let's just say I I didn't have it on my bingo card but I certainly did not exclude it from the bingo card if you did then you got to pay closer attention the way things are operating uh Florida Henry says the Constitution is almost meaningless after this I mean look well we've had our discussions on the Constitution and how well it's being followed there are a lot of people running around saying this war is illegal whatever I've said this a million times libertarians and even conservatives do themselves no favors when they say this it's of course true but the war powers act has been the way we've declared war for a long time we're not even doing really doing that anymore we just kind of don't bother uh but you know that that's just been the case that the
Constitution the constitutional ability to fight a war has just kind of completely been blown out of the water and it's been like that for many many decades so while it's frustrating and yes I wish that would change I'm not going to hold Trump singularly accountable for this it's been a problem with every president every administration congress has never fixed it so what are you going to do at this point? Mark Gates says uh never advance America first I don't know man if you got some alternative let me know I still think JD Vance is the best option you got but I'll be honest this probably didn't help in his chances I don't you know I think I think JD Vance is a good option but this is not going to help credibility this is not going to help electability so at you know I don't really know of a better Republican knocking around at the moment if you do let me know I'll take a look but you know right now I'm not seeing a lot of better options uh JD Vance does seem to be
overall reluctant to this though obviously as the vice president he's going to kind of go along but I don't know uh you know maybe maybe he does fully support it maybe he's brilliant maybe he knows the 5d chess I don't and he's completely got it locked in and this is going to be amazing victory and catapult him into the White House after Trump's incredible dominance by all means you know let let let let that be the case but I'm doubtful he also says I appreciate you for being honest and sticking to your principles aren't like I said man I can be practical okay I I was one of these people again who said look you know abortion abolitionist guys you need to calm down we got to get Trump elected still that one for the next election what bothers me is when I don't see people making logical arguments for their tactic I could explain to you that while I understood why you were passionate about abortion I could give you tactical explanations as to why you should focus on getting Trump elected anyway in that situation I could reason that to you nobody is doing that on
this that's my concern I want consistent understandings my understanding is consistent I need Trump to stay in office and stay relatively politically popular so deportations can happen so I'm willing to make the sacrifices necessary for that to be done that was my argument when I said people should calm down and let Trump slide on the abortion stuff and yet now nobody who made that argument except me seems to care about the fact that Trump is really hurting his chances in the midterms here really hurting his political capital and when I see people who said that the first time around suddenly shut up the second time around that's when I get worried Joe McDermott says we're in a situation where if you don't have a future alliance guarantee there's a risk of another power ally controlling the regime in a way that is worse than before yeah that's just another way
of saying that we got to have to be a world empire all the time right maybe we do maybe that's just true right either we got to have a lot have everyone locked in to alliances and contracts and we need to be influencing their politics and fighting their wars because if we don't do it then China and Russia will do it maybe that's just the reality of the great power politics of the day but if it is let's just formalize it I mean I can honestly hear a good argument for anything if you'll just give me the argument but we're not doing that like Donald Trump is literally using the we're going to Iran because they need freedom argument I'm not even joking that's really his argument at least with Venezuela is like yeah we don't care about the freedom we need their oil so we're going to do this okay a little crass but at least honest at least you're framing this in a way that I can understand why you're saying this is a benefit to the United States but that's not what's happening here it's just like well we're going to Iran because freedom you know maybe hit him
with a little bit of constitution maybe they need a little democracy what are we doing here I just don't get it uh names I can't read on youtube says I've said it before and you're rightfully chastised me for it and I'll never blackpill but I'm so tired yeah again man I'm not going to black pill on this I don't think that again I mean look there's a real possibility we get locked down here for a long time and this is a disaster it's entirely possible everybody's telling you that isn't the case is just insane like you really should just stop listening to that person immediately they're not a credible person maybe they might say it's still worth it but if they can't tell you that there's a possibility that this could just go sideways and be a disaster then they're just not a serious human being they're they're not giving you any kind of real interaction that said I don't think that's the only outcome I think there is there are scenarios where Trump can pull this off or he realizes that maybe he doesn't want to stick around to like get this all the way done because
it's just not worth it and he withdraws in a relatively quick fashion after claiming some level of victory over Iran those are reasonable outcomes that don't devastate the United States and still allow him to get back on track and certainly hoping for those again for those outcomes so you don't you know I'm not going to sit here and blackpill over oh well now it's just over the administration's over and you know we're going to lose this war 100% and we're going to be stuck here forever and like no those aren't the only outcomes and I'm certainly not hoping for those outcomes but I'm also not dumb enough to know those outcomes don't exist so I'm not blackpilling but I am just going to be real this is not a good scenario I don't think it's a wise move and I'm only saying that because I really want the people involved to succeed otherwise I just wouldn't bother with the advice uh grim says orin thank you for being the most sensible of the ones who side with Trump on this issue you're genuinely a breath of fresh air and I mean that well thank you very much like I said I just want to be honest with people I don't want to you know I don't want to be
hyperbolic I don't want to you know run around saying I'm done with Trump I've done with the Republican Party just give up and vote for Democrats just give up and no vote for libertarians or whatever but at the same time I'm not going to pretend there's no problem here I'm not going to pretend that this doesn't seem like a mistake I'm not going to pretend like I can't observe history and facts if you need somebody to do that you really again there's plenty of people who are doing it right now so enjoy a sinister says you think Trump would be more focused on domestic affairs since the first is an assassination attempt but it seems to me he thinks it's a he's gained plot armor and can now primarily focus on forward affairs uh I have a different read I understand what you're saying but here's my read on Trump and why he's focusing on foreign policy he has more sovereignty there the machine moves in the direction he wants when he wants foreign war and he also has more power just as the commander in chief he can't he can only do so much with executive orders he runs into the courts he runs into Congress he runs into uh
Democrats he runs into sanctuary cities and states but he can pretty much do whatever he wants with the United States military and he's been relatively successful with that in past so that's what he's doing there's a Twitter account Dan Baltic who said uh Trump is doing what he wants it with foreign policy because he can't do what he wants at home which is also what happened with Julie Caesar right why is Julie Caesar conquering Gaul well because he can't do what he wants at home why does he keep staying out in the field well because if he comes home there's a problem is not un similar scenario that Trump has here like he he is in this scenario where I made the joke many times he's more sovereign over Venezuela than he is Minnesota I think that's just the case I think he's more sovereign over Iran than he is over California uh Joe McDermott says completely agreed on deportations and migration control first we attack Iran for threats in the US but this is so much of a bigger threat yeah that's that's my
exact problem I understand okay Iran having a bomb is bad but we solve that problem so can we focus on this problem that the Iran problem got solved they're not a threat Ted Cruz said specifically they're not close they haven't seen anything that tells you they're anywhere near building a bomb so let's go whack that mole in two years or three years after you solve this problem but this is the problem here this is the problem now this is what I elected you to solve uh what water voids says the situation is never going to improve until we decouple the uh from Israel or they have major changes in their leadership unfortunately I tend to agree and I know that's not going to be popular with a lot of people but I think it's true I don't think we can make properly informed foreign policy decisions and in many cases domestic policy decisions when we are so heavily intertwined with a foreign government I am a George
Washington in this we should not have extended entangling alliances we are absolutely denying what the founders told us when we're doing this I just think it's unwise I would say this about any other country as much as I'm saying about Israel but since Israel seems to be the one that has the most influence and the one people are so obsessed with being our greatest ally that's the one I got to focus on if the UK was like hey we're going to go strike stuff and you guys better get on it too or else you're going to get hit I'd be angry at the UK but they're not doing that is real is so they're the one I think we got to focus on unfortunately many youth says ideology is just a pair of handcuffs to the idealist and the useless idiot but those who can see the physics of power to see reality as it is as we want it to be you are free I tend to agree with that he also says thank you for being one of the few people who are saying well thank you I think there are plenty of other people out there honestly and like I said I'm seeing more and more people who are initially like look just shut up whatever Trump says are now like well okay now he's saying
boots on the ground maybe maybe not so wise you know again I want to see Trump succeed so I'm not looking for some revolt against Trump what I am looking for is wisdom but we're already in it now so like I said the two-pest outcomes right now are immediate smashing success for the United States total victory for Trump or a moderate victory in Iran that allows Trump to say okay we did our job and we can go home we don't have to make this an extended thing so I'm hoping for one of those two it's that simple I wouldn't have started this but since we're here those are the best outcomes and that's what I'm hoping and praying for the real Justin says glad I our GC is being crushed they funded and trained the insurgents we fought in oh eight when I was in Iraq but I am biased vendetta feeling look man totally get it the the Iranian Revolutionary Guard horrible terrible government bad people they've done bad things they've sponsored tear they've trained bad people
you are 100% justified to be happy about bad things happening to bad people who tried to hurt you you will not hear me say anything else these people are not our friends they're not our allies they're not good they're bad totally on board with that like I said even the Middle East many other countries in the Middle East you know Saudi Arabia in the same port that report from the Washington Post saying that Israel was you know kind of going to do these strikes anyway and was being encouraging you know it was basically telling the United States leader get on board or get pulled on board it also said that Saudi Arabia was one of the key countries that was ultimately lobbying for this Iran strike right so like it's not it's not that they're super great guys even bad people in the Middle East don't like them so again no we are we are on the same team like no no harm or foul here I just think ultimately this is a bad extended move for the United States but yeah no no no tears
coming from me about the plight of the poor Iranian military uh Cali Oaklander says how do you think Elders Kobe is feeling right now I really really don't know all right guys let's go ahead and wrap this up thank you everybody so much for watching I appreciate it if it's your first time on this channel of course you need to go ahead and click like subscribe all that stuff so you know when we go live if you want to get these broadcasts as podcasts and you to subscribe to the or McIntyre show on your favorite podcast platform and when you do please make sure to leave that rating or review it really helps with the algorithm magic thank you all so much for watching and as always I will talk to you next time
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