View on Politics: Is it a final test for Findlay?

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1:00Scott, in for Simmy on your Friday morning, Simmy's back on Monday. Von Palmer is also off this week, so we're checking in with Jazz Joe Hall, CKNW afternoon show host of the Jazz Joe Hall show. Good morning, Jazz. How are you? Happy Friday doing well. Do very well. Do you have plans for the long weekend? Are you getting up to anything cool? Disney a lot of family actually out in the valley. My wife's side, they've got a family, it's been a long time dairy farmer's up in Chilobac. We should get together once a year, so I'm looking forward to head note to the valley, actually, this weekend. Oh, that's fantastic. I'm actually going to a wedding in Tawassen. I'm from the valley, like Chilobac Abbot's for the area, but I'm going to a family wedding in Tawassen, which is like the other direction, but it's going to be awesome as well, so looking forward to that. But Jazz is today the day that Carrie Lynn Finley is actually going to meet with her caucus. Well, this is quite interesting. The announced the other day that there's going to be a caucus meeting

2:01at today at 11 a.m. Now it's important to note that this is on a mandatory caucus meeting, and I can't see every MLA showing up, even at a late date like this, as I think is going to be significant amount of MLAs, who won't be at that caucus meeting, although Ms. Finley did say that the expected special announcement. Now I don't know what that actually means, and I think it's going to be held out in the valley as well. So in terms of Ms. Finley's supporters in caucus, we'll be out door knocking with her and meeting the supporters today as well. The challenge, the court challenge still remains, and she said that she has been chosen as leader. She's not stepping aside. She said she would elect the collegiate, she intends to lead with determination and humility, I think is the words she used. The court challenges remain. There's no sort of outreach to the nine MLAs that have left.

3:01There's no comment on whether or not she plans to do a complete 180 when it comes to leadership. Yes, she has lost her chief of staff. She's left director of operations and vector director of operations, Apollo Chung. I spoke to press progress, which is a left wing website connected to the NDP. You have sort of a publication division. And they had a story yesterday interviewing Apollo Chung. So first of all, you have a conservative of staff or former conservative staff or former member of the Republican Party, don't forget, that during the interview with press progress, which alone is a, and gave me a bit of a chuckle. But basically, he said that he was included well by Mr. Delaney. And none of this has been proven, by the way, he talked about comments being made about his heritage. By Mr. Delaney now, he is filing a complaint with the human rights tribunal, all of those things. And like I said, none of this has been tested with the authorities yet. So I take the other vein of salt and see what happens. But it was quite interesting for him to publicly come out and say that

4:02yesterday as well. So there's a lot of swirling around this party. And at the same time, as you listen to Mr. Delaney's special announcement today, the core structural challenge is still remain. And there is talk of more MLA's watching this very closely. And yesterday, we didn't have any resignations. I think what's going to happen is we have in the post-labor day, there might be one or two potentially thinking of leaving. I think the rest of them are going to wait till the results of the bi-elections, which is September 26th. And so we'll put on hold for a moment here before the legislative session starts in October 5th. And just so on the other side at the same time, Mr. Miller, Bar Peter Miller, the first MLA's to leave, is already set. I called him the other day. He's working on the Constitution of the party. There's Full steam ahead. They will have a name. They will be registered as a party between him and Mr. Peyton. They were the first two members. I'm sure they were working very hard to attract more MLA's to join. So we will have a new party in the legislature,

5:02October 5th, as Mr. Ms. Finley talks about a special announcement at this caucus meeting. The bleeding continues for the BCDN service. So, Jazz, the MLA's that you think are waiting until after this bi-election is that because if she loses, they might stay. Like, if she loses, that might spell the end for her. And then she'll leave. And then it's like, oh, we don't need to leave now. We'll have to pick a new leader. Well, there are those inside. I think, fair to say that assume she will lose. If she loses, somebody will be chosen as leader. That person can lead the party. And they believe the BC Conservative party is still the vehicle for the centre-right and they can be saved and then has the most MLA's as an opposition. And not Mr. Miller, Mars Party or any other party. That's one way of thinking. At the same time, I think there are those who have left. And they look, this party has done enough brand damage to itself. The policies that they have reflected represented, you just can't walk away from.

6:03We need a clean break and a new party. And look, I was joking with other journalists a few days. They said, never forget, in politics and caucus, even in any work environment. There's always going to be, otherwise put this delicately triangulating careerist. If they are going to leave a leave at the last minute and they're not going to go first. And those that have gone first have gone. And the other ones are going to be very cautious. I mean, there's people on that caucus that don't remotely, remotely buy into the policy and broader themes and comments that have been made by this party. It's leader and staff. And they know that the comments will be made the direction of the going. It's odorous. It's offensive is not going to allow you to win. But they're going away to the buy election and see what the results are. And then those of you who look, give her a chance. If you win, she wins. And but I would argue, if you win, she wins. Yes, she's going to stay. But if she loses, I don't think she's going to leave either. So those people who feel that somehow,

7:05by waiting in her losing, that there's something to your brand new day, I don't know. I just think this has just gone on so long now. Now, remember, a beyond dismissed family plus Mr. Rust had the previous leader who was declared professionally and capacitated by the board, had to be pushed out for many months of fighting. I think the brand damage has been so significant. I just think it's sort of neat and you center right vehicle. What that will be, I don't know whether it's Mr. Milovar, we have center BC as well. So this is a lot going on behind the scene. This is not settled remotely. Whether or not there's a special meeting today, MLA's a tent or not, or a special announcement today by Karylin Finley. What's happening behind the scenes is very significant. And that's going to take a few weeks to play out. Continuing our conversation with CKNW afternoonshow host, Jazz Joe Hall, and now Jazz, the investment summit that the prime minister is putting on is yet to come. Though yesterday there was a big announcement about building new train cars here in Canada. Yeah, I mean, this is all towards the buildup of that big investment conference,

8:10which is scheduled in Fertrano, September 14, 2015. You're going to have Prime Minister Karni, a massive roster of Canadian CEOs, pitching the country to roughly about 250 global finance executives who collectively manage about $120 trillion with a finance. So these are massive hedge funds that invest in all sectors and manage people's pension funds. Mr. Karni is going to open the program September 15th to the keynote address and will be involved throughout the panel as well. They want to sell Canada as a stable place to do business and, you know, away from some of the more thought places in the world, the four sectors are really going to focus on. I think it's important for British Columbia as well as critical minerals, energy, something they call fauntier tech, which is really the AI, and then defense and advanced manufacturing. So, you know, if you look at critical minerals and energy and even some advanced manufacturing, those are opportunities for us here and even AI opportunities here for British Columbia.

9:15And so you're going to see a lot of heavy heaters there. I mean, it's all part of the government's plan to at least, to a certain degree, as much as they possibly can, be coupled from the United States. I mean, still going to be the biggest economy. We're still going to trade with them. So need them. But it is part of our government's push to continue to look at new investment opportunities around the world, particularly in Asia and Europe as well. You know, what I find interesting in all of this is the public generally has given this Prime Minister lots of rope in regards to dealing with Mr. Kromp. And I think Canadians are deeply offended by what they are seeing and have seen from Mr. Kromp and his team in regards to negotiations when, but even just prior to picking a fight with Canada when it comes to tariffs, you're still seeing a voluntary decision by Canadians not to travel to the United States. The numbers bear that out. They picked up a little bit in the last few months, but generally speaking, they still are significantly lower than what they were prior to Mr. Kromp's election.

10:16What I also find interesting is when we talk about dealing with other parts of the world, you want to build a fortress in America when it comes to supply chains, dealing with the other parts of the world, particularly China and India and other trading blocks. So you want a strong US, Canadian, Mexico alignment. Mr. Kromp is sort of blowing all that up right now. And I think one of the things that's going to be very interesting is going to be a bit of a friction point. It still remains even to now is the Canada allowing 49,000 Chinese EVs, which has hurt a lot of the folks on the America side. And those numbers are going to grow every year. I think by the third or fourth year, it's supposed to be about 70, 70,000 plus EVs. And once you've allowed them in, it's not like Canadians are going to say, no, shut it down because they are going to be cheaper vehicles coming to this country, available to Canadians. And when you see more and more of them on the road, I think it's going to open up a market, a smaller market for China, of course, but it's still an important market as an attempt to get into the North American market.

11:17Remember, Mexico already allows Chinese made EVs as those Australia, as do many G7 nations in Europe, especially. So, you know, this is all part of that broader conversation as we try to sort of, at least certainly be trying to build new markets and other parts of the world. Now, have other countries pulled this investment summit done something like that in situations like this and found that it worked? Like, where does this idea come from? Have other prime ministers done this in the past? Well, I think there's always trade missions to other nations. I've been on a few trade missions as well as a journalist and as having worked for the LNG sector to Asia. And these are important touch points and also sometimes taxpayers to get hurt to these things. But you got that, you know, we haven't done a very good job in my opinion, Shell Inc. Canada over many years in being a former bureau chief in India and China, watching many trade officials come, but we're never consistent enough in building those relations long-term. I saw that in India. I remember this BC Wood office opened up in about 2001. I was doing a documentary at the time and they shut it down and didn't stay very long.

12:19And so we as Canadians also have to be in our minds at much better at staying focused on these markets and really working because sometimes there's not a common language. The standards are different. All that's part of the work. But I think what Donald Trump has forced us as Canadians is to think differently and say, look, we've got to start looking at other parts of the world. America is always going to be there. It's the biggest economy. That's not going to change, but let's try to diversify our trade. And I think everybody in this country, conservative liberal, New Democrat, wherever it may be, have got that message. I mean, at this summit, you're going to have all 13 premieres there. Cabinet ministers are going to be there as well. And Prime Minister Stephen Harper, former conservative Prime Minister, he'll be chairing an event as well. And it's all timed actually to end with the start of the Toronto International Film Festival. So trade and investment and straight to Hollywood and worth that for that. So I think these are things are important. I think we should be doing a lot more of these, inviting people to Canada, but also making sure we travel about a lot of these places and we start focusing on this. So I think this is a generational opportunity.

13:20And I hope we do meet the moment. Jazz Jo Hall, host of the Jazz Jo Hall show, airing weekdays here on CKNW in the afternoon, three to six. Thanks so much, Jazz, for filling in this week. And I think you're back again with us on Monday. So we'll see me. We'll be back then. But thanks so much for your time, man. Great to have you on. And enjoy that wedding this weekend. Enjoy your time out in the valley as well. That's Jazz Jo Hall again, host of the Jazz Jo Hall show.