Trump Prepared to 'Unleash Hell'

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1:03is carg island worth American lives. President Trump does not bluff, and he is prepared to unleash hell. So the White House is saying that talks are proceeding with Iran, is that just a distraction from a coming invasion? I want President Trump to take Lindsey Graham out of the situation room. The administration in the ranks, some Republicans are not satisfied with what they're being told about the war. Get here five hour hours at least. Desperate hours can anyone salvage talks to end the TSA paid crisis before the travel rush this weekend. CNN this morning starts right now. And they are negotiating by the way, and they want to make it deal so badly, but they're afraid to say it, because they figure they'll be killed by their own people.

2:04They're also afraid they'll be killed by us. They talk about negotiations. They talk about other things. This is precisely an admission of defeat. Iran rejects a U.S. peace proposal as the next possible battleground is now coming into focus. Good morning everybody. I'm Adi Cornish, and here's where we begin a key island and a considerable risk. Sources tell CNN Iran is fortifying Carg Island. They're laying traps. They're moving additional troops and firepower in. Now Carg Island is about 15 miles from Iran's mainland, and it handles 90% of the country's oil exports. The U.S. attack the island once before. Now the White House may use U.S. troops to seize it. Two marine units, which specialize in amphibious landings, have recently deployed. 1,000 U.S. paratroopers expected to deploy to the Middle East in the coming days. So could we be looking at boots from the sea, boots from the sky, risk of U.S. casualties

3:07on the ground in Iran? Well I'm bringing in to discuss CNN political and global affairs commentator Sabrina, saying Sabrina, thank you so much for being here. Since you worked at the Pentagon, help me understand when we're saying deploy, is that a guarantee there's boots on the ground, or is that just moving people into the arena? It's not a guarantee that that's boots on the ground, but what it is doing, it is giving the president and the Secretary of Defense options and additional capabilities in the region. So that if the president decides to authorize plans to take Carg Island, or to go anywhere else within the region, he has flexible assets there to do it. Now the seizure of Carg Island, that could be very difficult, as you were just saying, they sort of fortified the island, moved more air defenses, firepower there. And when we say it's an export hub, does that mean it's an island that's full of oil industry? Infrastructure, does that mean there's military bases there, like what's on the island? I mean it is, it is essentially an oil depot that has been used for large cargo ships

4:08to move in and out, and it has very deep waters to allow those large tankers in and out. It's not necessarily used for military purposes, that being said, Iran is likely moving assets in there because they are seeing us move other assets into the region as well. So they want to be fortified. Yeah, I want to play for you then, related to this, Iran's deputy foreign minister was speaking, I think we have a clip of that, let's take a listen. There are thousands of U.S. Marines on the way. What happens if they get used, do you think? What does that mean, though, for these Marines, if they were to land in Carg Island? I'll just read what happened in Vietnam. Vietnam? I mean any mission to take Carg Island, I mean you'll remember the secretary of defense four weeks ago said there will be casualties in this war. There already have been 13 casualties over 200 injured. There are likely going to be American servicemen and women that are killed during this operation.

5:08So the president's calculation has to be, is this worth it? And it's not just about taking Carg Island, it's about holding Carg Island. How long can you hold it for? And what does that mean for any type of negotiations? Because just because you take this island, that does not automatically mean that the street of Hormuz opens up and oil starts flowing back and forth. In fact, it could be used as a negotiating tactic at, you know, the table should negotiations take place, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Iran is going to capitulate anytime soon. One last thing, what are you going to be listening for in the next day or two? The last time that we're going to be talks, the administration, you know, after markets closed, they're ended up being strikes. So are we actually looking at an off-ramp options or just another round of military action? I think the president really boxed himself in with that first 48-hour deadline and then extending it to the five days, which conveniently ends when markets close on Friday.

6:08What I'm going to be looking for is to seeing if the president extends that deadline. I think hitting any infrastructure, energy infrastructure is going to have even larger effects on the global markets. And the global markets are already going to take months to recover from. And the infrastructure that was hit in Qatar, Saudi others, it's going to potentially take years to recover from. So I'm going to look forward to see what the president does if he extends that deadline and says, talks are continuing, they're great. We're going to hold off on hitting energy structures, but we're going to keep targeting military targets. And then I think the second thing is, what does this president do with these forces moving in? I think he is going to initiate some type of action, potentially, to take Carlisle and use it as a tool at the negotiating table. Okay. Sabrina Singh, thank you so much. You're going to be back with us in a bit, but coming up on CNN this morning, President Trump holds his first cabinet meeting since the attack on Iran. As new polling shows that more Americans are not on board with his war, plus travel chaos.

7:10And talks to end it, well, they're not going well. So can they be salvaged? And we're going to hear from Savannah Guthrie, she's speaking out as the search for her mom goes cold. We are in agony. We are in agitation, it is unbearable. So, TSA agents are set to miss their second round of paychecks amid the DHS shutdown tomorrow. Today, airport wait times are getting more difficult to track. Several major airports are basically pausing wait time reporting, right? They won't even tell us due to overwhelming lines. In Houston, however, lines already stretch three and a half hours long. Yesterday, Republicans rejected the Democrats' counteroffer that would fund DHS, and that included demands for ICE reforms, for instance, officer ID funding for body cams, protecting

8:15sensitive locations from immigration enforcement like schools and hospitals, and also some training standards. Now, to worth noting, the White House has agreed to those demands last week, but only once DHS is fully funded. That includes ICE. The latest Republican proposal doesn't include any of that. Both sides blame each other for the back and forth. I think Democrats right now are a little bit like the Iranians, in which they feel like they can hold a hostage and get more gained. And it doesn't matter that people are suffering in our country or theirs, they have a hostage and they're going to milk it for as much as possible. They are the ones holding those agencies hostage. We do not want TSA shut down every single day. We go to the floor and say, you will get every single Democratic vote to open up TSA and they block that bill every single day. Joining me now in the group tap, Betsy Klein, CNN, Senior White House reporter Mike Dubkey, former Trump White House Communications Director, and Megan Hayes, former Biden White House Director of Message Planning.

9:15I want to start with you, Betsy. There was this quote from a reporter we both know Chad Pergram over at Fox, he's really well known and very connected. And here is what he said, a senior House Republican member on what it will take to break the DHS funding impasse, quote, a couple more shootings or the lines to get even longer. That is ridiculous, but that's the reality right now. And it doesn't seem like there is any movement on either side based on everything we are hearing on Capitol Hill and what we are hearing at the White House, which is just continuing to blame Democrats. But there is a very serious human toll here, and you're seeing that as DHS officials are going to have another week of zero dollar paycheck. And we're starting to hear those stories of TSA, gainfully employed, fully employed people seeking assistance from food pantries. Yeah, and then you're hearing some pretty random offers here, Elon Musk on social media on his ex. I would like to offer to pay the salaries of TSA personnel during this funding impasse.

10:19And then a White House spokesperson had to say we greatly appreciate it. This would pose great legal challenge, which might be the first time that the White House has actually said no to something for legal reasons from me. Well played. In the meantime, the president offering this suggestion while he was at the NRC, see fundraising dinner. Probably the dinner with all the people where you're like, hey, this is the message you are going to go take out to the country in our races. And if we have to, we're going to send in the National Guard if we need to, because we only, you know, we have 6,000 ICE agents and we have 40,000 of the other people that they are helping out. Congress is going to get to work here. I don't want the National Guard at the airport. I don't want ICE at the airport either. And frankly, the TSA agents, I mean, here's the thing that we were talking about, you know, years ago about air traffic controllers.

11:20You know, they make a lot of money. So they had the ability to save up some money. These TSA agents do not. They can easily quit and go and work somewhere else and make just as much money as they're making. Yeah. And by somewhere else, I think we mean food delivery. Well, anything. I'm not saying door dash, but I am saying something else. And so Congress really, until Congress has to stand in that line, which is starting to happen. Why do I have to wait for lawmakers to go to the airport for them to think this is an issue worth solving? That's a great question. And I think the American people would like to know because really the people who are being hurt here are the American people and just so chaotic. And I think that it's really a challenge for both Democrats and Republicans to keep the Democrats to put up seven or eight bills that the Republicans have voted no on. That looks foolish. Republicans or Democrats not wanting to negotiate on anything. That looks foolish. I'm putting forth a thing that says we won't, we won't deport U.S. citizens. That also looks really foolish. Like everybody is not winning here. And the American people again are the losers, just like everything else when we shut down the government.

12:21Can I ask one other thing, though, when Trump came in earlier in the week and just said, no, don't compromise. What is even the point? And number two, do they have some polling that says the White House is looking great on this? Like, why would he come in, say that, and then effectively own the problem going forward? I do think the White House expectation is that Democrats are going to start to shoulder some of the blame. But right now, we're not seeing that. One more thing I have to leave us with, you talked about the folks who are struggling. This is the TSA acting administrator. This was just yesterday. Many in our workforce have missed bill payments, received eviction notices, had their cars repossessed and utilities shut off, lost their child care, defaulted on loans, damaged their credit line, and drained their retirement savings. Some are sleeping in their cars, selling their blood in plasma, and taking on second jobs to make ends meet. Okay.

13:21You guys stay with me. We've got a lot more to talk about. We're also going to have lawmakers on to ask questions about this directly. But in the meantime, meta and YouTube, they've lost a major social media trial. So is this their big tobacco moment? Plus, Americans increasingly skeptical about the war with Iran. Will the president ignore that and escalate the fight? To have I got news for your ears, the podcast, I am your host, Michael Ian Black. In this week's episode, we're covering everything, Iran, airports, Elvis. We're answering the question, could Elvis beat up Trump, or would Trump have the better of Elvis, and what is Trump's take on Bruce Lee? All of this and more. Have I got news for your ears? Check us out on Apple, Amazon Music, wherever you get your podcasts, even better you can watch the podcast on Spotify.

14:25According to a new Pew Research poll, more than six and ten Americans disapprove of the president's decision to attack Iran. And as U.S. forces bear down on the Middle East support for the military operation is waning even within the Republican Party. There are boots on the ground. I think there will be enormous costs associated with it. And I would never make any decision going into war or not into war based on the politics. But this is a midterm year, and I think that there will be consequences to it. I think right now, the base is with the president. I'm with the president. He's in a phenomenal job. But the minute that we have a single boot of a single soldier from the United States on the ground, your views change. And the views change. And I think it is, I think it's overnight. So if the Trump administration can't rally support fully for this war within the party, how can it hope to win over voters? I'm bringing back the group chat along with Sabrina Singh. Sabrina earlier, when we were talking, we played that clip of the one of the foreign affairs

15:29officials for Iran, where he evoked the V word saying it'll be Vietnam if boots land on the ground in Carg Island. And one thing the Iranians have been doing in their propaganda is sort of deaf to use of US fissures in our culture over boots on the ground and forever wars. Can you talk about the view from the administration that you're seeing? Are they basically like the publics with us, so move those boots? I think Nancy Mays does have a point that the base is with Trump on this, but it's still a majority of Americans, I mean, 6 and 10 do not support this war. And we are heading into a midterm year where, frankly, I mean, this president ran on the idea of affordability and bringing down costs. And every American around the country and, frankly, people around the world are seeing costs going up. Yeah, I should say I'm looking at the papers today. Post office sets fuel fee on packages. Right. All the oil execs are meeting in Texas.

16:30I'm seeing quotes come out of them talking about the long-term effects of this on the economy. Because there was not a formal attack on the US, right? And I know someone is going to say for 47 years, Iran has dot, dot, dot. You just took away my talking. Yeah, I'm just saying. There was no rally around the flag effect. There was no thing that made people coalesce. It seemed arbitrary. That Saturday seemed arbitrary when the United States went into Iran. And I think the number from your, that you just posted that really stood out to me was the strongly disapproved, as somebody that looks at polls. When I see the strongly disapproved or strongly approved, those people generally aren't going to get moved off of that number. Right. And 44%. That's a massive number. That's a massive number. For a strong number. Yes. So we've got, look, it was foreign entanglements. No, Iran on affordability. He ran close and the board has been, I'm not stupid wars. Everyone was against stupid wars.

17:30This is a smart president. So this is a good war. Yeah. And you're going to start to see these very serious concerns from lawmakers like Nancy Mace. They had this closed door briefing in the House Armed Services Committee just yesterday. And a lot of them left privately expressing severe reservations about the real lack of clarity on strategy and game boots on the ground. And the White House perspective on this is, well, Congress is going to leak, so we are not going to give them that. And also Democrats, are they really going to vote against funding a war that is escalating? Are they really, especially when there's a spin-comas conversation about munitions and drones and what we're running out of? Like Democrats, do they really have an argument right now while the thing is still going? Well, yeah. I mean, if we're not funding DHS fully and we're not funding TSA people, the people in our own country can't afford food, but we're going to send $200 billion to a foreign war that nobody wants, and 44% of Americans strongly disapprove and 6 and 10 disapprove in general. I think that puts Democrats in a really hard spot. It also is a really hard argument to make to the voters going into the midterms.

18:32How do you make that argument? When we can't afford things in our own country, we're going to go for a war that nobody wants. I think Megan is right on that, like in terms of where Democrats are. The issue is, and that we dealt with when we were sending military packages to Ukraine, is that our stockpiles are going down daily and drastically. And this is very expensive. I mean, it's almost a billion dollars a day for this war. So there will have to be some type of backfill, and Congress is going to have to authorize that. I think on both sides of the aisle, people are very uncomfortable with it, but there will have to be some type of package. Otherwise, we are going to dip so low, it will impact already. I'm also fascinated by the generation of soldiers who went into politics precisely because they did not feel good about the way the U.S. conducted past wars. They did not feel good about what happened in Afghanistan, and now here we are. Some of them, in charge, in a situation that people are raising questions about, might look the same. I mean, that's headset. That's like, that's a lot of these lawmakers.

19:33I mean, I think, you know, with some of these folks that are in power right now, they're bending what they used to stand for to the will of the president and what he wants. I mean, I think also at the beginning of this war, you know, the president laid out like for the Iranian people, it's yours to take. And I think he was banking on this idea that there would be some type of revolution in Iran and that, you know, people would rise up. And the reality is, is that's not going to happen when people in charge still have the guns. Let me play two pieces of tape for you that are interesting. One, we're all keeping an eye on those folks who fancy themselves independence, but supported Trump. So Rogan, and what he has said in recent days and weeks about the war. Just seems so insane based on what he ran on. I mean, this is why a lot of people feel betrayed, right? He ran on no more wars and these stupid senseless wars. And then we have one that we can't even really clearly define why we did it. Well, but he said he's against endless wars. Well, they're against endless, but cemented.

20:36They're all endless. But they're all endless with such resignation. Well, at the end of the day, one bleeds into the other. I mean, we were talking about gun or drug votes and we were talking about Venezuela and now we're talking about Iran. I mean, I think the point, we're at a weird inflection point here. Your original question about will Democrats vote against funding our troops? In most instances, I would say there's no way that they can't fund our troops. But I tend to agree with Megan on this one. I think we're at a point where the Democrats feel like they have to stand up and do something and say, no, and what is to show disapproval and with gas prices going to the wound. Speaking up, I think the real, there's real question here. Nancy Mays using a metric that sounds arbitrary, but I think is reflective of the mood in some corners of the party. A single boot on the ground changes how we may think about that. I'm going to be interested to see if she is proven right.

21:36To bring you thank you for coming back to talk with us straight ahead on CNN this morning. President Trump sounds bullish on those diplomatic talks with Iran. They want to make a deal so badly, but they're afraid to say it. Not in this deal, Iranians are they losing faith that the U.S. can help them. Plus, could the Labority of Plain Crash spark a reckoning for air traffic control across the U.S.? The relationship between the FBI director and the president has always been complicated. Unravel the complex dynamic in the CNN original series, standoff, the FBI, power, and paranoia, now streaming on the CNN app. They need the money, everybody needs to pay their bills, so basically they need to have their families taken care of and it's not fair.

22:39A flyer and Houston there, sympathetic with TSA agents. These are now live images from outside George Bush Airport, where wait times to get through security are clocking in at more than three and a half hours. On Wednesday negotiations, fell apart in the Senate that would have funded the Department of Homeland Security. Good morning, everybody. I'm Audit Corners. Thank you for joining me. It is now half past the hour. And here's what's happening right now. The investigation into the Plain crash at LaGuardia Airport, it's now stretching nationwide. NTSV Chair Jennifer Hammendi says they will be looking at air traffic control staffing across the country. In this investigation, we will look at controller staffing during that mid shift. We will look at controller staffing entirely in this tower, but then across the national airspace. Now, there were only two air traffic controllers on shift at the time of that deadly collision. The two pilots were killed when they struck a fire truck on the runway.

23:43And today, today Venezuela's ousted president Nicholas Maduro and his wife will appear in a New York federal court. His attorney will argue the U.S. government is violating Maduro's constitutional right to defend himself. The lawyer say the Treasury Department has revoked a license that allows Venezuela to pay their legal fees. Prosecutors say that a couple can still use their personal money, both Maduro and his wife have pleaded not guilty to drug trafficking charges. And Savannah Guthrie sits down for her first interview since her mother Nancy went missing nearly two months ago, and a gut wrenching clip released by NBC Guthrie describes the agony her family feels. Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home in Arizona the night of January 31st without her

24:45phone or critical medications. The search for the 84 year old is ongoing. And this just in is really sources say they have killed an Iranian Navy commander. They did not provide many details, but they did say it was the commander behind the near total blockade in the street of Hormuz. And the U.S. and Iran are now laying out very different visions for how this war will end. To the White House claims there are productive ongoing talks with Iran. Iran has not accepted a 15 point plan offered by the U.S. to end the war. Iran says they have only exchanged messages with the U.S. It's stuck in the middle of all this. This geopolitical standoff every day Iranians who invented their frustrations to CNN and recent phone interviews. I'm so angry. I feel like we're just a play thing we've been toyed with. When Trump said help is on the way, we'll save you and it amounted to nothing, which was obvious for some of us, but some of us believed it and it deeply divided us.

25:50I'm pissed off. I am hopeful. I'm scared. I'm all of these things all at once and it's suffocating quite frankly. Joining me now to talk about what's going on at Rasha Zizi is a contributor at the Atlantic. And we're talking because you also reached out to people who live in Iran, some people who escaped just before the war. I was wondering if you could talk to me about what they are saying now. If there's one mood overall, it's a mood of people being terrified and really worried. They're worried about the war continuing. It's hitting them hard. I speak to people sometimes on our couple of hours after their home was hit, their windows were broken. Iranians have never seen wars like this. There was one war last year for 12 months, for 12 days. They hadn't never seen something like this. So they're often very terrified of the war, but they're also terrified of what happens when the war stops, what the regime is going to do to them.

26:50So it's a situation of helplessness, worry for themselves and they're safety and frankly for the future of our country, which is very threatened in many ways. When the president first launched U.S. strikes, first announced the launch of U.S. is really strikes, he said this, I want to play a portion for you. To the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered, don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside, bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government, it will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations. You do have an Iranian leadership that has been decapitated in some ways. You do have the navy going down. You do have long-range missile systems that have been destroyed.

27:53Can you talk about the disconnect between the military gains and this moment that the president promised? Well, there's now a Republic continues to control the streets, the security forces, and the opposition, unfortunately, it still doesn't have the necessary sort of organization to challenge it. Now, of course, it is possible that after the war ends in whatever shape, in the aftermath, there might be mass uprisings, there might be a sort of challenge to the regime, but it would be quite difficult to bring it down even then, because even though the regime has been, yes, it's military capabilities have been weakened, but it continues to have a lot of repressive capacity. Look, the real disconnect is that the president, from the very beginning, has spoken of two goals that are not necessarily to do with each other. One is regime change and preparing the conditions for regime change as he spoke here. The other is degrading Iran's capability to project power behind this borders.

28:57These are two very different things, and the latter doesn't really do anything about the former. JD Vance may be potentially leading some kind of talks in Pakistan in the coming days. What are you seeing in the potential off-ramp here? The plans offered by, let's say, the U.S. administration? The problem with the plans, but the U.S. administration is that they aim at a grand reckoning, a sort of big deal that would, once and for all, solve all the problems that U.S. has had with Iran for decades, and that seems to be something that President Trump is going for, that's something that he likes. I don't think the Islamic public is in the mood to make that sort of deal. I mean, it's just gone through this existential crisis. It's passed that role. It's showed that it can survive. From the perspective of itself, it doesn't clear why it would make that historic deal, which would mean giving up on frankly and its identity and many things about it.

29:59I do think it's possible for something like that to happen down the road. But in this round of talks in Pakistan, if they come, I will find the surprising. I think it's much more likely that if there is going to be some sort of an agreement, it would be much more limited, and it would be more like a return to status quo and development. The right thing is very in February 28, not some grand reckoning that finally ends the dispute that has gone since 179 between Iran and the United States. Arash, I've run out of time, but if you could answer this one, is there a fear that Iranians will end up like those in Afghanistan, right? Do you end up with the same leadership that you had before? There is definitely a fear of even worse, there is Iraq after 1990, for example, before which the started to go in 2003, Saddam Hussein remained in place on the burning over a country that was ever more weak and economically poor.

31:05So there definitely is that fear, but it's also up to Iranians to realize, okay, it was perhaps naive, I have some people thought that there could be a very quick change, and we should find, you know, more lasting ways of how we can challenge, and there is some problem. And I hope more Iranians see that, you know, it's not right for them to put this hope on unfair and worse, and they might find ways of doing it to themselves. Arash, it's easy, thank you so much. I want to turn to something else here in the U.S., a landmark social media ruling tech giants have been found liable in a case about addiction, and this could set a significant precedent. The companies were accused of intentionally getting a young woman addicted to the apps, harming her mental health. The jury found meta and YouTube negligent in their design of their platforms, and they were ordered to pay a combined $6 million in damages the companies say they plan to

32:07appeal. Inside the companies, documents and meta, they had some people who were asking, one day when all of this stuff gets out, are we going to be the big tobacco? Is that what we are? And I think what we've got right now is the beginning of an answer to that. Joining me now, Sarah Fisher, CNN Senior Media Analyst, and senior media reporter at Axios. There I've actually interviewed in the past some of the plaintiffs here when they went to the Supreme Court to try and overturn Section 230. They wanted to sue that way. What was different about the approach this time that ended up in success for these plaintiffs? I think, Audie, it wasn't just them pointing to the way that these platforms were designed, although that was a big part of it. The plaintiffs also pointed to the fact that these big tech companies, meta and YouTube, knew about some of these changes and these challenges for the users and didn't warn them.

33:08They didn't do anything. So it's not just about design. I think that's what's a little bit different. I also think trying to tackle this from a way that says, you know, the law doesn't shield these companies was something we heard a lot of in this courtroom. To say that platforms are addictive is a very tough medical diagnosis to be able to compare it to something like tobacco. But to say that the way that this law is interpreted is not correct. That is a much easier argument and I think that's somewhat of what this court case is going to show moving forward. Remember, there are thousands of other cases just like this that are pending. And the public sentiment is very different. When people talk about social media and young people, I want to play for you the verdict so to speak on TikTok, sort of how people have been talking about their connection to social media. I had to cut down my time on social media because it was getting to my head. And it's not healthy. Every time I open up Instagram and I'm just scrolling, I either get really sad or really

34:09anxious or just really overwhelmed. I'm so scared of how addicted I am to short form content. I'm trying to change my life and it's so hard. Now Sarah, as you've said, there's not a medical connection. People can make at least just yet. People are definitely researching it. But there are many, many more cases similar to this one working their way through the legal system. So what can we expect? I think you're going to expect plaintiffs to point to certain features that we might not have spoken about as much at length in this trial, but they're going to continue to get brought up. For example, things like beauty filters that was brought up a little bit in this trial. It's not just the addictive nature of scrolling. It's actually can filters apply unfair beauty standards on young children that are going to influence them in certain ways. The gamification of these platforms, trying to solicit likes and so pushing content, pushing users and incentivizing them to push content where they're going to get more likes and more shares.

35:10I think more trials are going to focus on a lot of that as opposed to just the infinite scrolling nature of these platforms in part-audi because it's not just these two platforms that do that kind of infinite scrolling. You now have news organizations that are putting scrolling vertical video on their apps. And so I think they need to target, they're going to target tech for some of these very unique to social media features moving forward. And of course, we're going to keep following this because like the big tobacco thing, these legal cases can drag on for a while. So Sarah, thank you for checking in with us. Thank you. Next on CNN this morning, you've got flyers who are frustrated. I see you. You're waiting in a long line at the airport and now I'm sorry to tell you another deal has fallen apart in Congress. The politicians need to get their head out of their ass. So I'm going to ask a Republican Congressman Corey Mills, not that specifically, but about the topic. And later on CNN, it's been two years since the Baltimore bridge collapsed and CNN's

36:12Dana Bash has actually gone to that site to see how the rebuilding process is going. All right. So there are a lot more questions being asked about the war with Iran on Capitol Hill. There was this closed door house briefing that led some to vent some frustration. And we're talking from both sides of the aisle. The chairman of the House Armed Services, Republican Mike Rogers, said after Wednesday days hearing, quote, my hope is that the next briefing and those thereafter will be more fruitful. Would you support troops on the ground and Iran on this point? No, I'd have to say, crystal clear from the beginning. No. This war is now and it's third going into its fourth week. There are more questions and answers. We're not getting answers from the administration on the end game. Coming out of this briefing today, I don't have any confidence whatsoever that they have a plan, a strategy, even very clear goals for what they want to do next.

37:16Everyone needs to get the same briefing we received today and make that decision, is it right to go into a protracted, elongated war where soldiers are going to die? And right now, I am adamantly opposed to boots on the ground based on the information that I have. Joining me now in the group chat, we have Congressman Corey Mills, he's a Republican from Florida, member of the House Armed Services Committee. I wanted to talk to you because obviously you are a military man, but you've also been in these briefings. Answer the question from Nancy Mase. Do you see a plan or do you see a protracted war? Well, I don't see a war for sure that's not what the president's objective has been from the very beginning. I mean, if you think back, for example, to 2011 in Libya, one of the primary reasons that we went ahead and declared a war is, but at hostility as the Department of Justice had clarified under you in regulations is that there was no boots on the ground. It was about trying to protect innocent lives of civilians there and I think with 40,000 plus people being completely just massacred within the streets by trying to do it, we would

38:20call the first amendments. I think that the president looked at this, looked at the overall nuclear threat and I think that when we saw all the fact that recently they were even launching hypersonic ballistic missiles. But let me stop you there. They didn't have a lot of footage. No, no, here's the thing. We're calling it a war. It's not actually a war. Okay. So you're saying that. I think by most average people's understanding of seeing bombings every day, they think they're looking at a war. And then when they hear someone like Lindsey Graham has talked about taking Carg Island and compared it to Iwo Jima. Let me play this for you. So here's what I tell President Trump, keep it up for a few more weeks. Take Carg Island where all of the resources they have to produce oil, control that island, let this regime down a vine. We got two marine expeditionary units sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this. Then I had Mike Herodopoulos on this show, Republican from Florida.

39:20And I asked him about boots on the ground. Here was his reply. The last thing we wanted is boots on the ground. As you mentioned, our own son is the United States military and a very cognizant. I know it not only he but all of his friends are thinking right now and we're optimistic we can finally take a run off the map that is all of our goal. Let me just start out by saying that Lindsey Graham doesn't speak on behalf of the Republican party and certainly not on behalf of most Americans who speak a lot for the White House. Well I'll tell you right now though, but if you look at it, I mean Lindsey Graham would be willing to start a war or someone basically, you know, porch pirating one of his Amazon packages. So are you worried the president listens to him? Well, the president listens to everyone. That doesn't make his final decision. I mean, the president is one of those individuals that he collects intelligence from all areas, but at the end of the day it's his decision. He determines eminence as Tulsi Gabbard talked about and he gets to see intelligence that, you know, not all of us get a chance to see because he gets it from so many different factions within the Nazi community. But you're mentioning Tulsi Gabbard. That's a great example.

40:20Her chief of staff basically exited with the resignation letter saying that Iran was not an imminent threat. Her chief of staff also as it was recently released that he wasn't in a majority of the briefings that actually Tulsi was giving to the president and vice versa. And John Ratcliffe, who is the CIA director of former ODNI who filled Tulsi Gabbard's position, even made it clear that, yes, there was, in fact, nuclear capabilities that had been developed and that they were only moments away from being noticed. So what I'm hearing from you is you're in the camp of there was an exact imminent threat and that you're not calling it a war, even as we amass troops heading to the region, including land, combat, commander, and carrier troopers. Well, I guarantee that it's always the case and look, I came from the 82nd Airborne Division. I served proudly in the 82nd, served in combat with the 82nd Airborne Division, but it's interesting that no one was calling it a war whenever Obama found it to be totally fine in 2011 to launch for seven months, by the way, seven months from Libya. I don't want to give you a more time, but the people who are on their way there are not

41:21going to do what happened with Obama. They are going to be in a mission and I won't have to agree with the mission. We deployed troops to Kuwait, we deployed troops to Saudi Arabia, we deployed, and none of them ever actually had gone into certain areas. They were actually a prepositioned, basically contingent, the ideas as well as that forced presence. Force presence and forced protection is a very important thing in the military. Being able to demonstrate strength actually does get results in negotiations and we've seen that time and time out. So, having positions actually prepared and have people in the country doesn't mean we're putting boots on the ground of war, starting. Look, I'm with the congressman here, escalate to de-escalate. That is a path forward. And I think that's what we're saying. There's the word from James Mattis, okay, former defense secretary. I can't identify a lot of good options. You can say it's over, you can even declare victory and guess what, the enemy gets a vote. And guess what, James Mattis and I couldn't identify him as a good secretary of defense and that's why he also didn't last. Does the enemy not get a vote? The enemy always has to be right, 1% of the time, we have to be right 100% of the time.

42:26That's always been the case, but the reality is this, well, if we would have done nothing, we would have allowed 47 years of actual conflict against the Americans. If you go all the way back from the time that they took over 55 hostages, or the fact that they bombed the Beirut bombing, or the fact that Khasim Suleimanin, the Kudz force was killing Americans across the globe with proxy militias everywhere to include the EFPs that was maming 600 plus people. So, the idea is that we're already at conflict with them. This is an evil dictatorship in regime who was killing young women like Masa Mini for the fact that she didn't want to wear a hijab. This is an oppressive area that basically subjugated women, and that was actual business. Well, then let me follow up on that last idea. We heard voices from Iran in the show earlier saying, talking about feeling disappointed, feeling like if this administration walks away and they are left with a more angry, aggressive regime that the U.S. would have betrayed them. You have served, you've heard this argument in Afghanistan. What do you tell them now? Well, I can tell you that one thing that we need to look at is you are global partners

43:28are in that region. If you look at what the UAE has said, they will be- Are they right to feel betrayed? KSA, I don't think that the President has portrayed them all when he said help was on the way. Was it not? And so, I think that they're getting a little ahead of their skis, and also the fact is, is that you don't go ahead and teleforecast to the enemy what we're going to do. We don't give definitive timelines. Here's when we're coming out, because what you do is you watch what happened in Iraq in Afghanistan, where they essentially sit back waiting for counterattack counterattacks or just able to transmit transitional governments. And so, you don't show your cards at every single poker table. The President's basically, to quote him, escalated to de-escalate, but he's also guaranteeing that all options are on the table for the regime to consider. So, this is really about trying to ensure that this doesn't become a bigger global conflict and we can get peace and stability within the region, and that Iranian people can select their next leader. Yeah. Whether that be Reza Pavlavi, whether that be someone from inside- A monarchy. Yeah. Not even a monarchy. Well, we'll bring you back to talk more about it, because you've raised a lot of ifs, and a lot of people have questions about that, certainly in the polling people are questioning

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