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Kristi Nome has been fired. After a disastrous Senate hearing this week where even Republicans turned on her, Nome became too radioactive to keep. Here's Trump's post. He just wrote, quote, I am pleased to announce that the highly respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullin will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security Effect of March 31st, 2026. The current Secretary Kristi Nome, who has served us well, has had numerous and spectacular results, especially on the border, will be moving to be special envoy for the shield of the Americas. Our new Security Initiative in the Western Hemisphere, we are announcing on Saturday in Deral, Florida. I thank Kristi for her service at Homeland, serving 10 years in the United States House of Representatives and three in the Senate. Mark Wayne has done a tremendous job representing the wonderful people of Oklahoma, where I won all 77 out of 77 counties in 2016, 2020 and 24, a mega warrior, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think you get it right there. Now Nome's position collapsed quickly after she made what
was considered a cardinal sin during her Senate hearing the other day. She had told Republican Senator Kennedy that it was Trump's idea for her to do this $200 million ad campaign that she starred in. Trump, it seems, felt like Nome was blaming him and he claimed that he had nothing to do with that campaign. Here's a post from Fox correspondent Bill Mulligan. This is from before the firing and he says the following. DHS Secretary Kristi Nome is now treading in some dangerous waters. She testified in the Senate this week that President Trump approved of and was aware of a $200 million ad campaign that featured her prominently. Trump now tells Reuters in a phone call he did not sign off on it. Quote, I never do anything about it. Trump said. So that is what reportedly did it. It wasn't her horrific handling of natural disasters or her out of control use of ice and border patrol, which resulted in the deaths of multiple Americans, but rather her blaming Trump for a massive ad campaign. So let's dive into the clips that ended Kristi Nome's career. Here with Senator Kennedy, grilling Nome on the $220 million worth of commercial she made
that featured her prominently. Play the clip. How do you square that concern for waste, which I share? With the fact that you have spent $220 million running television advertisements that feature you prominently served the president tasked me with getting the message out to the country and to other countries where we were seeing the invasion come from with with putting commercials out that told them that if they were in this country illegally that they needed to leave or we would detain them and remove them and they'd not get the chance to come back to America the right way. That has been extremely effective. Ask you to run these advertisements. Is that right? We had that conversation, yes, before. I was put in this position and sworn in and confirmed and since then as well. Okay. Did you bid at those service contracts? Yes, they did. They went out to
a competitive bid and career officials at the department chose who would do those advertising commercials and the people that you ended up picking were people who had formerly done your political work back in shop to cut. Is that right? No, that's not correct sir. No, it's not sir. We the individuals who I believe the careers who they chose were two different media firms. There's been conversation about their subcontractors but we have no legal authority to look into subcontractors on work like that. Okay. And you're saying that you're testifying that President Trump approved this. They had a time. Does that understand? We had conversations about making sure that we were telling people. No, ma'am. I'm asking you. Sorry to interrupt. But the president approved ahead of time. You spending 220 million dollars running TV ads across the country in which
are featured prominently. Yes, sir. We went through the legal processes. Did it correct? Could the president work with OMB? Yes. He did. Yes. Okay. And one thing, Senator, I think would be helpful to know is how effective that communications has been. Well, that over-effectively. You're named recognition. Personally, just I mean to me it puts the president in a terribly awkward spot. And I just I'm not saying you're not telling the truth. It's just hard for me to bully. You know, I'm the president. As I do that, you said, Mr. President, here's some ads I've cut and I'm going to spend $220 million running them that he would have agreed to that. I don't think Russ vote at OMB would have agreed to that. It's something we have to defend. I'm only appropriations committee. I mean, my research shows that you did not bid them out that you
pick. In fact, one of the people you picked, the strategy group, I'm sorry, say for American media was a company formed on 11 days before you picked them and that the strategy group got most of the money and the head of that is married to your former spokesperson. I'm look, we all have friends who are qualified. I'm not crippling with that. I'm just it troubles me quarter fifth to a quarter of a billion dollars of taxpayer money when when we're scratching forever penny and we're fighting over recession packages. I just can't agree with Madam Secretary, are you still running those ads? Senator, I did not have anything to do with picking those contractors. I know politicals at the Department of Social Security did understand. Are you still running those ads? I think the ads are due to end here in March,
I think within a week. The one that is running is focusing on angel families. Have you seen that? It is the one that's talking about this is our why this is why we work every day. It's for the angel families in their victim. And that was just the tip of the iceberg. Here is Republican Senator Tom Tillis calling gnome a disaster highlighting the innocent Americans being detained by ice. Play the clip. Security. So why am I disappointed with Secretary gnome? Because we're not going after enough people who did this damage at the expense of running numbers as Stephen Miller wants out of the White House. We just want numbers. We want a thousand a day, six thousand a day, nine thousand a day because numbers matter, right? No, they don't matter. Quality matters, not quantity, quality. And what we've seen is a disaster under your leadership, miss gnome, a disaster. What we've seen is innocent people getting detained that turn out our American citizens. I could talk about the culture
that's been created here with with Stephen Miller eating and abetting. I heard first reports that he was the one that said it was a domestic terror situation where two people lost their lives in Minneapolis. I've heard that report. Maybe you can refute it. I don't know that we'll have time for you to respond because I've given you a performance evaluation here. I'm not looking for a response. Now let's go through some other moments. Here's Democratic representative Eric Swalwell asking gnome if anyone has been fired for the agency's failures. Play this. Tell me then has a single ice agent or CBC officer as a single ice agent or CVP officer been disciplined since you've been Secretary of Homeland Security. As we've seen women drag through their streets by their hair and thrown into unmarked cars. People chase through the fields and factories where they work. Public executions happening in our streets has a single ice agent or CVP officer been disciplined. Yes they have. How many? I don't know the number. I can
get that for you if you think that number is important. I think that it's wise and smart and what we're doing is accurate according to the law by doing those internal investigations through the process that's set up. There's an office of professional responsibility that does the investigation and decisions are brought before the National Use of Force board and they review each incident as objectively outside of that law enforcement encounter and then give a decision for them. Has anyone been fired? Has anyone lost their job? There could be. Well I'm not asking if it could be. I'm asking has anyone been fired? Certain that they have. That happens once in a while when there is a need for someone to be for conduct related to enforcement actions. We hold our law enforcement officers accountable and are grateful that they serve that they put their lives on the line and also recognize that when these situations that they followed their training and the legality of the course to how they interact with the public. Here's Jamie Raskin asking Nome if she still considers Renee Nicole good and Alex Freddie the Americans killed by ice to be domestic terrorists.
Nome refused to say no. Play the clip. But only a few hours after they were gunned down by your agents you called Renee a domestic terrorist. You said Alex committed an act of domestic terrorism. Alex's parents responded to your calling their son domestic terrorists. They said the sickening lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and disgusting. Now I want to give you a chance before the entire country to correct your false and defamatory claim based on what you know today Madam Secretary. We're Renee good and Alex Freddie domestic terrorists. Congressman what happened in Minnesota in those two incidents was an absolute tragedy. Were they domestic terrorists as you said to the country? My condolences to their families because I know that their lies will never be
the same after that. Is that an apology for what you said? We in those incidents offer as much information as we can from officers and agents on the ground in a chaotic scene. I'll repeat my question reclining my time based on what you know today. Madam Secretary based on what you know today were Renee good and Alex Freddie domestic terrorists. As you know there's ongoing investigations that are being led by. Oh but you didn't wait for the investigation did you? You didn't wait for the evidence you proclaimed that they were domestic terrorists at the time. Why did you do that? And you didn't wait to attack our law and for why did you do that? Going into a dangerous city. Why did you call them domestic terrorists? These are ICE officers and our HSI officers that day risk their lives to protect that scene. So evidence could be reclaimed so it could be used in the investigation because those violent writers that were so you're proud of the fact that you called them domestic terrorists. Is that what you're telling America? HSI officers put their lives on the line to protect that scene so evidence so we could have. Yes they do. Yes they do. But you told a lie
about them. You said that they were domestic terrorists. Do you regret that? I offer my condolences to those family and based on what you know today were Renee good and Alex Freddie domestic terrorists. They're sound growing investigations and so I do. So you still don't know. You think that's an open question. I would think you would want there to still be investigations going into these situations. Well you stated the conclusion two hours after they were killed that they were domestic terrorists. I wanted to give you an opportunity to correct the record not just for their family but for everybody in America who believes in the truth and fairness and honesty. In every situation as facts come out we relate. No you're acting ICE director Todd Lions came before Congress. He said he had no knowledge whatsoever that Alex Freddie and Renee good were domestic terrorists. None. This is your guy. He said that. He admitted that that was wrong. Why won't you admit it? We'll tell you the investigation is still ongoing and we'll. So do you regret speaking before the investigation? I would say that in those situations you regret that. Alex seen on the ground we relay information to the American
people that they're asking for and as the things change situations change. People were asking you whether they were domestic terrorists and you decided that they were before the investigation. As we learn more we. You don't want to say anything to their families. I did. I said I condolences. For what? I'm about an apology for what you said about their loved ones. I heard his with them and we will continue to stand with them as they get a complete investigation into these situations. All right next representative Kamlager Dove asked Noam about her reported affair with her advisor Corey Lewandowski and notably what you'll notice in this clip is that Noam did not deny the affair even with her husband sitting right behind her play the clip. Trump knows that this guy is shady. Corey has a decades-long record of physical battery, sexual harassment, illegal lobbying for a Venezuelan oil company and bringing a loaded gun into a federal building. Despite being fired or removed from virtually every position he has ever held due to misconduct he now
wields unchecked, unconfirmed, undisclosed power over your department. This person has no experience running anything close to department of Homeland Security or even advising someone in your position. He is unqualified which again has left my constituents and I wondering why he is your top official. So Secretary Noam at any time during your tenure as Director of Department of Homeland Security have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman I am shocked that we're going down in peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. Reclaiming one thing that I would tell you is that he is a special government employee who works for the White House. There are thousands of them in the federal government. So reclaiming is an advisor. It is okay for you to be an authority to be questioned. It is okay for you to be questioned. But it is also a real question. So what I would say you
will be able to answer the question. What we do at the Department of Homeland Security. Clearly every single day. And without any hasn't every single day is to protect someone is asked to make decisions. You or any federal official is sleeping with their subordinate. I have. I have. You should be wanting to answer that question as garbage. Because it is not about your sense that you have brought that up. It is about your judgment. That kind of garbage is about reclaiming my time so that I can hear my story. I have the long time belongs to the General. Here is Representative Jared Moskowitz mocking Noem over a story that she fired someone in the Coast Guard because he forgot to take her blanky on her plane. Play the clip. 200 miles of border walls being held up by you. They had to bring him Tom home and pull out of Minnesota. I think the country needs to do that. A national divorce from you on biblical grounds. I mean if Donald Trump was still a apprentice Trump he would look at you and he would realize you're the weakness cabinet member and he would fire you. And if the president said to you that only way DHS career open is if you resigned I hope you would take him up on it. Now I want to end on a happy note Mr. Chairman real quickly.
You know the president gave all sorts of stuff out during the state of the union. I don't want you to leave. I got you a new Coast Guard blanky the one you lost. Okay so this is for you. You don't leave empty handed when you come too to share it. Thank you Mr. Chairman. It is exciting. And now just to give you some quick insight on her replacement Mark Wayne Mullen he is let's just say not the brightest guy. Here's Mullen the other day talking about the Iran war. He called it a war then tried to say that it wasn't a war. Play the clip. Are there measures being taken not to eliminate other possible alternatives to leadership? This is war and we're taking out the threat. And if you're part of the threat then you have a your target. Yeah what we call not all the arrows but going after the archers. You can see we can see this is war. We have declared war. They declared war on us. We have it. Secretary X. We have it. They called it war what I was saying okay well that was a misspoke but I was saying that they declared war on us but war is ugly. It always has been ugly but we're you know we're at a
we're taking out a regime that's been trying to attack us for quite some time. But you're not conceiving this as war. We have declared war. So if we haven't declared war then I don't see that the president has asked us to declare war yet but we they have declared war on us. We're just simply fighting the the threat that's that's that's been at our door for 45 years now. I already asked you the question. Here's Mullin at one of these hearings demanding that everybody say thank you to President Trump for being a strong leader. So embarrassing. Play the clip. But you can't deny that this was a threat and an essential growing threat to the United States. And you want to say he's playing politics and you get the politics behind it, Mr. Peters. You guys are playing politics. You guys are the ones that are grandstanding. The president's doing his job as commander in chief. And I think at one time or next we should say thank you.
Thank you for being a strong leader but there's no way in God's green earth you guys can never give the president least president Trump any credit. Sorry. Thank you sir. I'm out of I still got 49 seconds. Here's Mullin in a 2023 hearing challenging the teamster's president Sean O'Brien to a fight in the middle of a hearing. Play this clip. Sir, this is a time this is a place you want to run your mouth. We can be too consenting adults we can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. We'll stain your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold it. Oh, stop it. Say you're solution every problem. No, no, sit down. Sit down. Okay. You know, you're a United States senator. Sit down. Okay. Sit down, please. All right. Can I respart? Mr. Holden. Hold it. If we can, no, I have the mind. I'm sorry. This is holden. Now let me just remind you of some of the other Christy gnome of low lights. Here was gnome falsely claiming that Alex Freddie was a domestic terrorist. This was despicable. Play the clip.
The White House is labeled the man who was killed in Minnesota as a domestic terrorist. Is that something you agree with? And have you seen any evidence to that? When you perpetuate violence against a government because of ideological reasons and for reasons to resist and perpetuate violence, that is the definition of domestic terrorism. This individual who came with weapons and ammunition to stop a law enforcement operation of federal law enforcement officers committed an act of domestic terrorism. That's the facts. Where's the evidence of his ideology now? Drew Evans of if you recall, gnome was also recently under fire for wanting to purchase the $70 million luxury jet with a queen size bedroom a bar and four flat screen TVs. There was the incident Jared Moskowitz had mentioned in which the person she's been allegedly having an affair with. Corey Lewandowski fired a US Coast Guard pilot after gnome's blanket was left behind on a plane. gnome would post things like this on her social media images of paintings of herself on horses asking which should be her official portrait. She'd always be dressing up in these
different costumes like she was constantly doing cosplay. And of course she was disastrous in the face of natural disasters. Like when the floods hit Texas last year on July 5th, FEMA had received 3000 calls from survivors and only 1% of those calls went unanswered. But that night, Trump and gnome decided to fire the people who handled those calls. By July 7th, 85% of those calls went unanswered. Not only that, gnome did not authorize FEMA's deployment of urban search and rescue teams until more than 72 hours after the flooding began. So all in all, just a terrible, terrible, terrible run in her position. So there you have it. Kristi gnome is out. A stunning development. She will not be missed. And I'd like to be able to tell you that will be in better hands with Mark Wayne Mullen. But I cannot do that either. Thanks for watching. Remember to hit the like button, spread the word, and help us get to 7 million subscribers. See you soon.
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