TOQ-Back: Ep 23

0:00I'm still buzzing from that episode actually I had so much fun we just finished and cleared the SD cards and then started and now we're starting again yeah so we had like a break but we're in it we had a break we all wanted to talk about the episode but we couldn't so we're just like and the weather yeah yeah so what you guys would you guys think at the episode you have fun it was fun it was so much fun it felt straight forward at first and then you threw so many you threw so many red herrings at us this time that I that it casting doubts I was like I'm not gonna do madam to us all like when all the arrows point to this yeah yeah yeah this felt more like an open like kind of video game mansion where like I'm going around at each room and seeing what I can find and then moving to talk to someone else to yeah I felt very organic and it felt like a very like slow burn I get the Christie murder mystery yeah like where you're not really sure what's going on it doesn't really feel like there's a

1:00ton of like pressure or like time pressure it's more like what happened what's going on in this world and then to end with the way that we ended it like ramped up the like it just I it's exactly what those mysteries feel like yeah chill until all of a sudden it is not yeah I love that hell yeah hell yeah yeah and I'm convinced that Valdrick is is not being very truthful with us or yeah that's mine I have a I have a theory on Valdrick I love to hear it I think he's well I think he's just a bad guy and maybe a little bit racist towards like and throats or like I don't know what his deal is but it's not racism towards like and throats I will say I will say that much don't feel like you have to bark up that tree great cool does not like nerve of whatever reason and his hired basically a hitman to frame because you can't just kill she has something on him or something yeah yeah that's good whatever it is I think I think he's just like because there's that ledger page missing so I'm like like

2:04dirty money happened on that page whatever it was and so I think he may have paid Katya to frame Nerva and then also have her here to to like kill Nerva so I think Katya is it's maybe just responding to money she seems like a mercenary she knows see Lee like I think I think she's just the hired the hired muscle yeah yeah because Nerva is a high-precision of fate so likely she knows some things you guys you got some things right and something's wrong and that's all I will say great yeah wow I guess favorite part of the episode maybe yeah so I guess we'll start we'll start at start you guys went out and first you talked to Raoul and Raina had had a little interaction with them and then went out to investigate the the avalanche the heap yeah I like Lucy casting ThunderClapp on the like the thing that like famously loud sounds I was like oh this will blow some of the snow away

3:10yeah no that's fun that's really fun yeah I liked yeah I like that move a lot I liked I liked getting time to just like shovel with bail yeah that was sweet yeah which is the thing I'm stressed about later but I'll get back to that but okay yeah because I think I think just having that a little that little dig time is just like the bail was an interesting character to me and that's what I'll say I was gonna I was gonna have it be his big secret that he likes painting miniatures and if you like investigated his cave you'd like find a secret door that leads to his like miniature chamber oh but then he was just like chatting with you and you were like what are you into and you like miniatures I used to paint miniatures yeah me too oh that's cool yeah then so you guys when inside continue to having your conversations I believe you investigated the body before going to brunch right yeah oh yeah we found Rex and

4:12Lucy went into the room and from the body yeah that was fun yeah I liked that it was fun to find that body yeah I just love anytime that Rex and Lucy are in a tuition over their heads yeah anytime they have to deal with something alone is I think yeah I will say I don't I don't feel great about how like I had Rex respond to it because it was very like kind of like nonchalant I guess and I was like I think maybe there's a reality in which that's the case but I'd probably should have like matched the I mean yesterday he said he was like I'm going to live forever yeah he's like I'm gonna live forever no one's gonna ever kill me yeah so he's like he's a dick yeah I speaking of like kind of wish me I racked it differently when you were playing the rich asshole I was like oh Lucy should have played a rich asshole too we could have rich asshole together rather than I was trying to like heighten your ass holeery by like saying no and like give you something to work off of kind of like eggy one no I think I wish that we had a rich asshole coupled together yeah I

5:12feel like what you did was perfect because I think that it gave like if you guys had both been terrible I think Valdrick might have reacted stronger in a way that would have taught you less like yeah the fact that he was trying to hide it it's also very telling he had somebody on his side yeah okay yeah so then you guys had your brunch yeah we learned a ton yeah so much and I I don't want to jump the gun but my the thing I've been like dying to talk about yeah is in that in that moment when you were explaining that like she went like that the previous daughter of fate had you know disappeared no one knows what happened to her and I put down my microphone and I go to Sarah you're my mom yeah that's what I because that's what I was thinking was like the very similar what then I did the math in my head I was like oh that makes no sense yeah but like I was like what if Rex what if the two people were talking about here of like mysterious

6:16you know queen Juliana and the daughter of fate were the same person yeah but I timeline wise 23 years ago yeah no yeah I'll confirm that that's not the case but I loved thinking it for okay yeah yeah did you also think that no do you just think that just right now yeah and I also got excited for a second and I was like oh yeah you're at that doesn't work out but I was like how fun with that like it is too late to change that's why we both have wronged hair it's too late to change sorry I mean we'd be more of an aunt situation because we did we did confirm that it is more of an avatar situation yeah where if a daughter of fate dies than another daughter crazy I love that in my mind that I'm picturing clothes that's going I'm running again which which we don't know that that's exactly the case but I am but it does it

7:20does make me more interested in like what if the romance or a romantic situation between her and Titus' is like was it really was it a romantic thing was it like not romantic was it more scholarly like I do think like what happened yeah I do have been born from a love of humanity or something like yes yes sure that's it's it's the type of thing where it's like it's not that she you know if she doesn't have a daughter she's immediately like fuck mankind it's more that like she proactively does it to keep herself grounded right and to like focus her love which I still think I have like Jeff I understand it's out of love but I'm also like that sense of like needing to do it to feel grounded is a little bit well parenting is inherently selfish yeah like there's a sense of I need you to help me there's nothing as a child you can't have a child completely selflessly yeah and and while also I feel like there's going to be

8:23some like I don't know it feels weird to have your parent like have had a kid and then their kid dies they have another kid to fill the void of that earlier child so like yeah you can't do dog well you can't but feel compared you know yeah are you do you miss that version and do I am I living up to that version that person was a general like yeah I feel like that's gonna be interesting you also learn that she was with your funds crew at least for yes that was so and then they betrayed her yes I'm gonna kill them yeah oh absolutely for sure I think it's like a you know maybe a a one versus like a compulsion like you were born out of a need as opposed to like born out of like yeah I want to have another child yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah very complex the only champion of Clothis yes but I also got like the is it Clothis again like I'm like it

9:24just because Clothis has business with you doesn't necessarily mean that they're your patron right it's also would be so funny if you were Clothis is you know and then and Lucy was is the you know for another god yeah I'm the first boy daughter of fate yes oh I thought I was thinking wait what's what's his name who's the who's the trickster god Phoenix Phoenix Phoenix I was like oh no what if what if Chloe's or patches patron is actually that Phoenix pretending to be Clothis and just fucking with patch well no actually he's turning I like the patches still a mystery like patch keeps getting more mysterious with who there shit going on with patch yeah let's go on with me I've got their shit what's over the patch yeah yeah yeah I like that you guys all immediately clocked that

10:25Nervo was a werewolf you're like oh she's been sick she's been here a month you were like she's a werewolf but there's other shit going on like we have to learn more and it would be rude for us to just come out and say yeah it was also one of the interesting things of like we trust her yeah so it didn't immediately make a suspicious but it was like we trust Yema right exactly we couldn't like ignore it either and that that was the type of thing where I was like that's why I felt comfortable having Yema come in at the end because I was like you all already kind of know that Nervo is a werewolf but not like being like and here's a solution to the mystery right just like gluing together two of the puzzle pieces to be like okay these pieces fit I'm actually really glad because I really didn't want to talk to Clothis but I was like that's yeah I was I was like I feel like we we had 20 minutes left on the SD card like we have to finish fast no I'm glad to do that um I liked I liked how you guys clocked that uh yeah very good oh I loved the uh like connecting the greenhouse to the Wolfsbane yeah that was really satisfying yeah yeah yeah

11:25um which now uh I won't say what I was gonna say whoo Wolfsbane is interesting and and that's part of the reason why I was like I was like this guy sucks um Valdrick because I was like oh Wolfsbane Valdrick is probably the one who planted it who knows about it and like that that's what made me think he's being racist um that was me my other question and I was I wanted to message you but I was like there's no way that Lucy would like be able to hear this conversation but I wanted to ask about how long it takes Wolfsbane to grow like does it take a month for it to grow or does it take two weeks for it to grow well I can also just move plants oh yeah I can answer that as far as like this soil is specifically infused to grow plants fast um real and real life Wolfsbane takes like I think three years to mature but like um in both in fantasy world maybe it doesn't mature as fast and also um in this soil

12:26it it kind of oh yeah in a world where like plant growth is a spell is fine yeah this is this is essentially plant growth infused soil yeah uh tangent uh last week I was in Colorado we don't have to pegs peak and there was grass there that takes a hundred years to grow an inch that's awesome oh that was cool it was like a good three inches four inches and you took a lot more three or four inches that's that's crazy that's a generous I think we're off I hope not if that's three or four inches yikes who told you that and why would he want that why would sorry that's okay the fuck um it's three fifty I just want to remind myself when it turns through fifty yeah that's helpful three fifty um let's see so then you guys went back you had your like party split where you guys uh patch talked to Katya uh I was fun splitting today

13:29I I really like it when you guys split from the mysteries because it's fun to just like and we cut over especially because they're like conversation based so it's not really like we have to stay together because of combat or like yeah like moving around for plot it's like oh like it's fun to separate those personalities for conversations and they've been contained like I know that like Janice's outside yeah yeah like I and I and I think that I was trying my best to be like okay and we look at the thing now uh just because I was like we have so much to get through yeah everyone was very on like on what they were going for and very purpose driven do you feel like we got through uh the amount of chunk that you want us to get through yeah I was worried that you guys would immediately be like put together that the werewolf attack so like there's only one set of tracks and there's the feathers like the tracks are only coming to the lodge not coming out of the lodge so it's like there's something screwy about if it's just a traditional werewolf attack like it would be a little different yeah um I was worried you guys

14:32were going to immediately put that together immediately be like okay who's the druid and like solve it like that which which I didn't druid didn't even cross my mind until we were in Katya's room and if like mentioned she was druid and we were like oh druids can also change into animals which was again a super satisfying way for that like beat for that to do yeah I felt like we were doing a lot of detecting yeah I'm glad I'm glad to have that way yeah yeah yeah but I'm I'm very excited to fight me too yes I'm I'm so excited for the like split of this fight where like some of you will be focusing on a possibly bail and Katya some of you will be focusing on Waldric that's really cool that's the thing I'm stressed about is I think bail is a good guy and I don't want him to get caught in the crossfire yeah is why I'm stressed about the fight he seems like a good guy who was told there's a werewolf who killed one of our patrons yes exactly yeah is this what you were referencing earlier yes yeah this is what after you had this lovely talk that you might have to yeah after

15:36we like kind of bonded yeah like because I was thinking I was like oh Janice does woodworking and whittling he can make him a miniature and give it to him which you'll probably still do spoilers well yeah if bail ends up being chilled and like Rex is just gonna make him the new manager of the hotel yeah yeah yeah yeah but that's the thing is if we would I says I'm like we had to not kill bail we got to get him to reason with us hopefully I think we can keep bail out yeah of the fight yeah that's another piece of the puzzle I know I know I know you bail out yeah yeah bail out that's something that's said that is a phrase and you're right guys okay okay I was banking on a laugh but you got like three minutes yeah that's another piece of the puzzle sorry I checked out Valdrick looking for a promotion um and like looking to take that yeah yeah yeah take that job

16:36that was a yeah being in the in the office with that yeah and that was a gift that you gave to feel like because I wasn't I did completely forgotten that we could investigate that room yes well I also haven't written off Valdrick from being aware Raven I'm like this this could just be hotel transformation here where everyone's welcome to the hotel transformation I'm also about the episode oh yes I'm also excited just to the next episode to start and for me to connect my Rex's fist with his face yeah I do want to roll your half roll for that right now now okay do I get advantage on my initiative because I I get advantage for getting down from they're not gonna act in the first round okay so that's the year because you're all just like popping off right now they're not gonna act in the first right oh that's best case and we're freaking out yeah yeah yeah and I like you guys in the end

17:38like coming together in your room being like what the fuck yes I was waiting for that yeah um cool well uh we're gonna gonna wrap things up oh let us know um I don't know if this is a stupid question to ask but let us know what you'd like to hear more of in the house I guess yeah absolutely do you like it when we go off on a tangent do you like it when we like recap the whole episode do you like I don't know I heard my sister likes forehead kisses so you could do more of those I don't know uh Matt come here come here buddy nope I got a hat on yeah yeah that's a great point let us know what you want that's on so pandery no but it's like you know they're they're you know they got to take it serious just tell us tell us we really need to do it think so cool I cut it out thank you again for uh subscribing to the patreon yeah thank you so much we love you love you very much we'll see you later work this is