Three Round Dynasty Rookie Mock Draft (Ep. 303)

0:00This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human. Start trading crypto on Kraken with just $10. Buy Bitcoin, Ethereum, and over 450 other crypto assets in seconds. Kraken has been around for over 14 years and is trusted by millions worldwide. Whether you're brand new or looking for a better experience, Kraken makes it easy to get started. Download Kraken on the App Store or Google Play. That's K-R-A-K-E-N. Not investment advice. Kraken trading involves risk of loss and is offered to US customers excluding New York and Maine through Payward Interactive Incorporate. If you regal the sploters at Kraken.com, slash regal slash the sploters, terms and conditions apply. All right, and welcome into the fantasy pros NFL draft show. We are exactly 50 days away from when the Las Vegas Raiders are on the clock with the first overall pick, which means it's the perfect time to get the boys back in town for a three-round, one-quarter-backed, fancy, rookie mock draft. I'm your host, Seth Wolcock. And I'll be going ahead to head with quite the cast of characters, including a man who's celebrating

1:01his four-year anniversary at fantasy pros today. Yes, he's told us for about the past four years now, how much he hates boneless wings, but loves those North Dakota state prospects. He's Derek Brown. D-Bro, congrats on four years, man. And what a better way to celebrate than getting your hands dirty with a little mock draft today. Yeah, it's a lot better getting your hands dirty with adult chicken nuggets, AKA boneless wings. It has been ruled in court. They are actually nuggets. Although the judge didn't have the stones to sit there and hold people accountable, but it is what it is. But yeah, man, it's been a good ride and looking to keep it on here at fantasy pros, man. Everything's on the up and up. And it's go time, dude. I didn't even actually realize until you said it, we are actually 50 freaking days away. Like, it feels so far away yet so close, man. It'll creep up on you just like those hot, boneless wings. And you know, I have an issue with that statement. I've said this before, but we can hold that for another time because I also want to introduce one of the minds

2:03that we're going to be joined by today. A guy who always brings school back in session we're welcoming in one of the founders of South Harman fantasy football and a member of the BDGE team. He's Adam McFarron. Adam, great to see you again. How are you following the NFL combine? And do you have any non-solicited bar food takes that you want to get out of the way before we jump in? That's a, man, loaded a bunch of questions right away. I just want to start off, actually, we were all kind of talking pretty show here. And I mean, 50 days till the NFL draft, that's a huge checkmark I did wasn't aware of. But then D-Bro, acting like everything's just another day, four years. The guy's been there four years anniversary. Listen, we got to give D-Bro his credit, man. It's crazy that time flies and the thing is he's getting better by the year, honestly, as hard as that is to say. That's wild, you know? Like a fine wine or fine whiskey, sir. I guess, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. Whichever, as far as the boneless versus bone-in, I mean, listen, I'll eat them both. I'd like primarily all things chicken,

3:05but I definitely prefer a bone-in to a boneless pie. It's bar-man. I mean, it's a, you know, as we get into the rankings here, doing mock drafts, it's quite a bit of a tear jump for me, like bone-in versus boneless. Are you flasked over drums, Adam? Honestly, that's kind of crazy because people have been asking me more about that when I talk wings. I'm good with both. I kind of like both. Like some people want to pick one or the other if they could, like they, you can do that at certain restaurants now. I like to have a good mixture, man. I like them both. Man, if I have the option, I'm going all flats only because it's what you can do with, like, just the twist action and the people that have not, they don't know about this. Like, you could twist the bones on the side and pull them out and then it's just all the chickens there, man. So it's just, it makes for easy eating, but before we get into this mock, like bone-ins, wings. Well, exactly. And I just want to give Adam his flowers, man. I think he's one of the sharpest guys in the Dynasty space. Agreed. An absolute grinder. I don't, he's not going to hop on here and tut his own horn. But I think that that also is one of the things

4:05that makes him absolutely freaking fantastic. He's humble, he works hard. And he's honestly one of the people that, like, we've talked offline for years, dude. And I'm a huge fan of your work through and through with South Harman, BDG, all of it, man. I appreciate that, man. Thanks a lot, and I know the guys here on this crew is, you know, as soon as that sent me the invite, I'm like, man, I can't. You serious? So I want to come and wait to hang out with these guys and talk it up. I will say, too, that doesn't surprise me about your flats. This guy is a master of manipulation. So when you talk about the wings, man, that doesn't make any pit of sense other than him going with the flats. I love to see it. Well, as noted today on the program, folks, we have a three round rookie mock trap for one quarterback leagues. We're going to go pick by pick, leaving you the listeners to decide who drafted the best and the worst. And we're going to start there by giving a quick shout to everyone tuning in either on the brand new fancy pros, dynasty YouTube channel or the audio feed. We're trying to get to 5,000 subscribers by the NFL draft

5:06and we can only do that with your help. So please do us a quick favor, give this video a thumbs up. If you enjoyed this type of content, also make sure you're subscribing. Do the channels if you're new. And if you want a chance to win a Colston Lovelin signed a Chicago Bears mini helmet for absolutely free, curries who are good friends over at pristine auction.com. All you need to do is subscribe to the fancy pros, dicey YouTube channel. Right now, drop a comment below in anywhere videos and that's it. We will announce a winner right here on the program. So make sure you ring the bell so you can be alert when we have new shows up and to claim your prize. If you are that lucky winner and Adam, since you've been a long time friend, since you are taking up some time out your busy schedule to be with us today, we're giving you the first overall pick here. And I know it's probably consensus. So I'm going to ask this, if this was super flex, is the pick still the same? Yeah, absolutely. I think it's Jeremiah Love in any format, all formats. Honestly, we run at South Island, the warp tool and that kind of factors in different levels and layers of scoring.

6:07I mean, even if the warp shows that it's really heavy towards wide receivers and QBs, I mean, outside of something completely egregious and scoring and rare, there shouldn't even be a consideration for anyone else besides Jeremiah Love in my opinion, especially after what he did at the combine. I think it just solidified the athlete and all the upside and the traits that he has. So he didn't really move the needle for me is kind of what I, it's the crazy to say, expected out of him. But no, there shouldn't really be a discussion in my personal estimation at this point. And Derek, when it comes to your overall dynasty rankings with Jeremiah Love, is he above someone like Ash and Jenty or would he kind of fall right after? That's kind of what I've seen when looking at the fans for those dynasty trade value chart when I'm kind of just looking at key trade cut and a couple of those other resources across the web as well. I've got Love right ahead of Jenty at RB3 and RB4 and dynasty. But the thing, and I've had people ask me about this and I've seen the talking point out on social media, it's okay to like both. It's cool to like both.

7:07You know what I mean? To me, I think both these guys are elite talents and I think they should be treated as such. I'm not bumping Jenty down just because of the rookie season that he had. I think he's gonna come out with gang busters and just have a wonderful sophomore year. So, pick your flavor. You know, toss them into a hat whichever name you pull first, all go with me. Just like Adam's wing preference, flats and drums, you got a little boat over there. And Deepro, go ahead with the 102 now. It feels like coming into the process there wasn't as much of a consensus at the top of the pass catcher board. Now it feels like we definitely do have consensus though. And there should be a consensus. Carnel Tate is my runaway wide receiver one. He's not making past the second pick for me. I think he is in a tier to me. He is in a tier all by himself. Like it's Carnel Tate and then it's everybody else of this class. And people could hate that take. I really don't care. I don't care about his 4 540. I don't care about any of the shade

8:09that people want to throw. He wasn't the number one pass catcher on his own passing offense. Like get out of here with all the BS narratives. Like we played the, he's too slow game. Wattettero and Emilan had that workout. We played it with Drake London. How did that work out? It just, I mean, dude, he's awesome. His game is so incredibly well-rounded. I don't even know if it's arguably. He's the best route runner in this class. You look at even from an analytics per route perspective. He was 10th in yards per route run. Almost a freaking 70% contested catch rate in college. I mean, he's a water see for one. Drop it, air drop him into wherever you want to in the first round. I think he's a top 10 pick. Carnel Tate, easy, easy selection for me here. Adam, it's interesting to have Tate because he definitely showed a lot of promises past season and in 2024. And that's working with quarterbacks like Will Howard and then really a first time starter here in 2025 with Julian Sain. So do you also have Tate as your second overall player in your dice rankings when it comes to a 1 quarterback league? I do. I will say I do have him in a tier with Tyson, but Tate's my one.

9:14And here's what I'll say about it, especially in this class as we start to go further through the ranks. There's not a lot of crazy high upside. I don't think as far as death and numbers in this class. And Tate to me, I think he has the traits to be someone that you can use in the slot outside. He has some absolutely unreal contested catchability. And one of the things I just want to keep going back to, and it's not, I don't really want to scout the helmet per se, right? But I do want to go through and talk about a guy like that whose his pedigrees been unbelievable from day one, five star guy. You're expected to wait in line, right? You're expected to have your time come at Ohio State, but that's part of what comes with being at a place that just produces, honestly, at this point, the longest list and the best receivers in the game. They're not saying LSU doesn't have something, but you think about a book last year, at least for me. When he went to Tampa Bay, I felt like I was on an island of I actually love this.

10:15If people are going to push his draft stock down, and you saw how he came out of the gates and firing. Now we didn't know Evans was going to be hurt right away and all the different things that were going to happen. But I think he's pro-ready, he's ready to go now. And I do think as far as upside goes, if I was to talk about Tyson lemon and take take carries the highest upside, and I think it's a decent margin. And that's going to be why I haven't met one. Okay, at the 103, I will take Jordan Tyson, then wide receiver out of Arizona State. And if you had told me a year ago that I could get Tyson at the 103 in a single quarterback rookie draft, I don't know if I would have really believed you because this guy to me, I think he can be a true alpha at the next level, really excels in creating separation, coming down with the ball in those contested catch situations. To me, my comp has been put George Pickens catch radius and met with Jordan Addison's elusiveness and route running. And that's what you get for Jordan Tyson here. Went for over 1200 receiving arts, 10 total touchdowns as a junior in 2024 before suffering that collarbone injury comes back this past season.

11:16And he even had to deal Sam Levitt's injury and then the Jeff Sims experience for half this past season. And still was on pace for career highs and receptions touchdowns before being shut down due to his own injury. So honestly, like if it wasn't the injuries, the hammy this year, the collarbone the year before, the ACL, MCL, PCL, tearback in 2022, I think he would be my wide receiver one in this class, but I'm very thrilled overall Derek to get in here at third overall. Yeah, I'm still so peek behind the curtain. I'm actually going back through Tyson's film. I went through it once, gave myself some time to kind of simmer on it. And I'm actually going back through his film right now. I am kind of on the fence on Tyson, where I'm going to fall with him. I see the incredible upside and he has the talent, the raw talent to come out of this class and be the wide receiver one of this class. What I'm struggling with is I think he also has a lot of growth at least at this point. And again, I'm halfway through going back to the film again. I think he's got a lot of growth that needs to happen

12:17as a route runner and a separator, both with his release package and at the top of his stems. I think there was a lot of growth that happened from 24 to 25. But again, I'm halfway through the film in 25. Again, I've got some questions about that. And that's where like the separation for me versus Tate and Tyson is, is that I don't have any of those questions with Tate. Like I at all. That was going to ask you, D-Bro, actually for Tate real quick. Do you have any question marks or things you're wanting him to improve on that are a little bit worrisome at all at this point? I mean, I think there's some parts of his game that I think like he's not the best yak producer and stuff like that, but he can produce yak. Like he's not the most physical guy after the catch. But to me, if you can separate at all three levels of the field and stuff, it's kind of like we're splitting hairs. Like not every single player is an A plus plus plus in every part of their game. I would say for Tate, it really, it comes down to the yak

13:19and then kind of splitting hairs on how high you think like some of his skill set is in some areas. But for me, like I think he's the most well-rounded and pro-ready guy, like we were all kind of talking about here. I agree with you still. The only thing for Tate with me, I was just going to put this out there was that I do want to see him get better with a lot of his press release. I think sometimes I saw him get jammed up a little too much on purpose. Yeah, that's a really good call, but he cooks zone and I'm with you, like going back to my right up that's live on the side right now for him. I agree with you emphatically. He does let corners get into his body a little bit too easy at times. Yeah, I think he though, the one positive, I think he has the frame and is going to get coached up very well on that. I think it's something that can be learned and traded. When you get to Tyson, I agree with you. I think he's very as a elite upside, but I do think there are some, I don't know. At the level of play especially, I'm a little concerned on some of the release packages. I agree completely. Yeah, big 12 corners, not the best usually that he's playing against.

14:20That certainly doesn't help projecting him any. Adam, you had three wider receivers kind of in this top tier here. Are you going with a third one at pick 104? Yeah, one of the night, well, one of the nice things about having the 101 given to me by these guys so kindly was obviously Jeremiah love. Let's just not put that out of the way. But honestly, if you had in this rotation here, where we're going, you know, one for every other picks, every third pick, sorry, I should say, lemon is easy for me here. Like the 104 is one of those at this point, especially in one quarterback like this. This is quite a bit of a tier break for me personally. I got McCoy lemon at at, I would have him at this four spot for the record. This is how my rankings go. One, two, three, four. But like what it would cost for me, if I had this fourth pick, let's say, to go down even to five or six or anything, I guess it would cost a premium because I do believe this is kind of a tier break for the guys that have closer to that really elite upside. Okay, and any concern, Adam, about kind of the stink at the combine

15:20over some of the demeanor that he had at the podium while talking to the press? No, I'm not, no, not really. I do find it kind of entertaining, but I don't have any, I don't have any like real, doesn't give me any concern or give me any pause for a player like him. I do think his game to me, why part of the reason I have him at four versus two, right? Let's say for these receivers, the one, two and three spot, he worked primarily out of the slot. And I'm not saying that he can't go out wide, but I do think that you kind of, the team that's gonna draft him is gonna have to find a way to put him advantageously early on in his career into the slot. And I don't know if that's going to really affect his draft capital on what teams think of him. And ultimately, if I'm gonna use tiebreakers, that definitely is gonna come down to one of the things you just think about the way the dynasty community is. And we want guys that have the profile, we want guys that can play not just in the slot. So that's gonna be one of the primary reasons why I would keep him down here. And honestly, he's probably potentially going to be

16:23out of the tier that I have in time. Okay. Okay. Derek Brown, speaking of dropping down a tier, let's go down one tier in most people's rankings for your 105 pick, please. I want to be very clear. The wider receiver I'm about to take right here is not down a tier for me. I actually, I have not finalized my rankings, but I will say this right now. I'm probably going to have Kasey Concepts he own ranked ahead of a Kylin. And I know that's gonna be, conversed to a lot of people. But so I'm gonna kind of dive through that. He's an easy pick for me here. And I think anybody's sitting with the middle round or later round with a late first, or the 107, it basically anywhere from the 106 to 108 range in a Superflex format, or right at this pick in a 1QB format, should absolutely be staring at Kasey Concepts he own. The tiebreaker for me between Concepts he own and Lemon is kind of goes right back to what Adam just talked about.

17:24And Lemon being a slot player. And my worry is about Lemon, not to shade him and stuff, but when we're getting into these top four, top five wide receivers, I think there is a clear top five. These top five wide receivers, it is in this new, I'm saying this new version of the NFL, but we all know that the NFL is not this league that is utilizing 11 personnel at 80 and 90% of their snaps at the end point. They're just not. So the top in teams in the NFL, you're looking at that rate right now is at 66, maybe 70% right now. So if a guy is slot confined, and he can't play on the outside, and I've got a lot of questions about Michael Lemon, like I love the on paper analytical profile. I like the dog that he has in him. I worry about two specific things with him. Can he play the outside? I feel like the Almanair on St. Brown comps are very aggressive right now. I don't put him in this entire end. That's a tie in this gets first. I don't put him in the same column as Almanair on St. Brown.

18:25I'll be very, very clear about that. I think my comp has been and remains for him, Jarvis Landry. And I don't think like if anybody gets that type of production out of him, that's not a bad thing for Michael Lemon, but again, going back to Jarvis Landry and the production profile and stuff, he was cooking corners and amassing all these receptions in a world where the NFL was utilizing 11 personnel at 80% and 90% of their steps. That's not the world that we're living in now. So if if Lemon is not going to be a guy like that is running 80% to 90% of routes per drop back on a week, it's going to hurt him and just look at all these other guys that play the slot, like just Josh Downs. This last year. Jayden and Reid is a guy that comes to work for me, where it's like, that's how it's good. Yeah, you see the upside when he plays. Well, and he has, but when you're in a offense like that, it's funny, you brought up the percentage. He's basically kind of confined to that 70% top end of snaps always. And it caps and it caps. What's crazy is what he's been a perfect example,

19:25I'll speak to this real quickly, where there's been so many other guys in that offense that have gotten hurt or have, you know, underperformed. And what do they do? They constantly keep using him in the slot. They don't put him out wide. So that's a very good, very good quality, bro. I like to hear that. And so it's not that I dislike McCoy lemon. It's just when we're splitting hairs with prospects here, I have no questions or qualms or any concerns about Casey Katsy on playing inside and outside. I think if a team wants to draft him and play him 80% out wide and then roll him into the slot versus certain corners, fine. I think his route running is better than McCoy lemons. Now we can argue about, you know, after catchability and broken tackles and all that other kind of stuff. But from a route running perspective and a skill set perspective, I have no qualms or questions about Casey Katsy on. I think he's a top three wide receiver in this class. I mean, again, for, you're telling me a player that had a 12.28 out last year and he still ranked 26th in Yacht Pro Reception,

20:28that's impressive, man, because when you get some of that more downfilled usage, you're not breaking tackles and producing as many yards after the catch. And the last point I'll make here is if he would have had a better quarterback last year, Marcel Reade is not good. If he would have had a better quarterback last year, his numbers would have been even better. That's definitely fair to say. Let me ask you this because my hesitation on part of why I have the tier break at the moment is not knowing what's coming in the NFL draft. And from what I've seen for the most part, it seems a lot more, you know, like it's consensus, so to speak, lemon looks like a top 20-ish pick at, you know, being conservative and conception on sometimes, I've seen missing the first round. So what do you think about, do you think conceptions done enough at this point to get himself into first round draft capital? Because honestly, that's part of the reason for me at this current moment with the info we have that I have it split where he's out of the top tier for me. I think he's going round one. I think just, I am my most recent mock,

21:29which thank you the Rams and the Chiefs. They blew that up with the recent trade. But my most recent mock that went live on Monday, I have conceptions going to the Browns of 24. I think that, I honestly think we could be surprised once we get to pro days and Casey conceptions because I think there's a realm where we could be living in and he runs in the four threes. So if he runs a high four threes at his pro day and he does any other kind of testing, I think he's going to go higher in the NFL draft than other people are expecting right now. Like, I think he's probably going to go ahead and it's a ball. So you got him after this pro day kind of rising himself into solidified first round. Yeah, I think he's locked into the first round. To me, it's not a question of he goes in the first round. It's a question of where got it. Okay. Buffalo. That's where I had in my latest mock draft that dropped over the weekend as well. That would be that would be so spider because you know what one thing we know about the dynasty community is the chiefs, the bills, the types of landing spots, just freaking propels. Yes, so at the 106 folks, I'm going to make a pick

22:32that's going to be pretty super controversial, I think actually, and I'm standing up business here. I think Elijah Sura out of Indiana is the wide receiver for in this class. And if you want to play or who is pro ready, who I think is going to make a huge impact from day one, it's a rot to me. We've seen it at different levels, whether that was in the G5, where you second in the Sunbelt and receiving yards nearly 1200 yards to the sophomore, then goes up to the big 10 higher level of competition and still finishes six in the conference and receiving yards in 2024 with almost a thousand was banged up during the middle of this season, but still led the country in receiving touchdowns. There was a streak where when this guy was on the field, he was catching a touchdown almost every single week. And for me, like I just love the snap of this guy's routes, especially when he's attacking the football on curls. I think especially he's a monster when it comes to the run blocking. And he has all the intangibles too, like he's been coached by a hard-nosed Western Pennsylvania guy in Kurt Signetti for the past three seasons, comes out of St. Francis University zero star prospect. So that's really what's going against him here.

23:32That and then he's not the most athletic guy compared to some of these other prospects. And he might not garner first round draft capital, but I think if he's on the board in the early second round, a team like the Raiders might want to pair him with Fernando, I think he won't get past pick 40 or so. So to me, I'm gonna go ahead and take a shot on a guy that I think when we get a month into the NFL season, a lot of the ISD managers are gonna regret not taking him here at the 106. Adam, you're up with the 107. Any thoughts though on Sarat first as well? Listen, I'd like Sarat. I will tell you though, he's in, so he's two spots behind the guy that I took here. Denzel Boston at 107. And listen, I really like Denzel Boston. I don't know. Okay, all right. Debrose with me, so I feel, I already feel a little better about my analysis. To me, Denzel Boston, if you're gonna have in this class a pick that's not, let's say this top five or six because I got Boston here at seven, right? And I think in a super flexly, obviously you'll put

24:34Mendoza probably goes ahead of him. So you're talking seven, eight somewhere in there. It's one of those guys where yes, I would like to have lemon or Tyson or tape for sure. But if you're not, I think he's kind of the middle ground tweener where it's meaning his value in the player that I'm getting still, I feel great about, right? So if I lost in the first round of the playoffs, and I think I have a really good team, Boston's a spot where I think you can actually get him and add him to a good team where he's gonna have potential to come out of the gates, giving you pro production early. I love a lot of his game. He's got a unbelievable size if you haven't got a chance to watch him six, four, two, three. I mean, the guy can move too. He's not just a big body. I'm really excited for him. In this class, it doesn't, I don't get super excited as we continue to go on. But Denzel Boston is kind of towards the end of the tier for me where it's like, okay, I know I'm getting a stud here. Yeah, and he's another guy. He started last season in 2024 with Will Rogers. And this year we had the young quarterback just not really take

25:34and demand Williams that next step. I think a lot of us were thinking he was going to and still Denzel Boston just showed up. Derek, where are you going with 108 now that a guy you like in Denzel Boston is off the board? Dude, I felt so sniped when Adam took him off the board. I was hoping that he was gonna go with the guy that I took here. I'm not disappointed to draft the guy that I'm drafting here, but I absolutely loved Denzel Boston for all the points that Adam make. I think his route running is underrated. People would knock him for his speed. I don't freaking care about any of that. Like again, kind of the same point I made with Concepcion. If Boston would have had good quarterback play, his numbers would have been bonkers this year. Would have been way better. I would agree. Yeah, so for me, I feel, this is a spot where the year and one QB and normal scoring or you're in tight and premium kind of stuff. Like, Kenyans CD can't fall past here. Just considering everything he did at the freaking combine. Seth, I know that we differ on this, but Kenyans CD is my runaway tight and one of this class and this is no shade to the guy that it's at tight and two.

26:37But Kenyans CD, I think like again, talking about where we have concerns about certain players to be every down players and you have to play snaps and you have to play routes and stuff like that. That's going to impact your floor and ceiling. All I don't concade. I have no questions about any of that with Kenyans CD. So you pair his blocking ability, his three down ability, his route running, his ridiculously stupid athletic upside. Like, dude, I thought he was fast, but there was not a ton of spots on film where Oregon sent him up the seam and you really saw him just open it up and put the pedal to the metal. So like, I didn't know he was going to have four, three, nine, freaking speed. But at that point, like, he could go top 10, top 12 in the NFL draft and nobody should be surprised at all. So love getting Kenyans CD at this spot. Yeah, I was going to say, and this is where, so when we were doing this, right, this was, we started this pre-convying and then we finished it as the combine was already finished post-convying essentially.

27:37So I will say this, for me, the way that I play in most leagues, I don't necessarily care about the tight end production and I don't think it, a lot of times, ends up mattering for me to win a title. That said, Sadeek is one of these, it's going to be a problem for me to even figure out how I'm going to navigate it. Because four, three, nine, with the profile he has, he's going to skyrocket. He's going to go extremely high. And the other crazy part is, while I may not agree with where he's going to go, he doesn't have to do a ton, as we've seen other rookie tight ends. He doesn't have to do a ton in his rookie season for his value to actually increase from there. Right. So it's kind of this conundrum where I don't necessarily want to lock into a top five or a better pick on a guy like this because it's tight end. But it's one of those where like, you know there's rocket ship attached to it as far as dynasty value and people wanting to get a really good player in a position that's not that deep. So I'm probably going to end up getting some shares of him that I know I'm reaching for him a little bit

28:40with the idea of hoping to move on from him later. Because I do think he has, he's going to show with that speed and all the stuff he has. His traits are going to allow him to have some really big highlight plays in his rookie season. And that ultimately is what really moves the needle for the dynasty game where I think as far as trade values go, stuff like that. Well, and there's like a few fever dream landing spots where you could see in your mind's eye of him having like a Sam LaPorta or Brock Bauer's type of like rookie season. It's like, if Kelsey doesn't come back and Casey takes him at nine, if the Eagles move on from AJ Brown and they let Dallas Goddard walk. And he's the number two for the for the Philly passing attack. Like these are hard, hard things to imagine. So it's like, if he goes to one of those spots, like it could be absolute wheels up and he walks into 100 targets. And you're just like, yeah, all right. Well, top, top five, top three dynasty tied in. Let's go. Kraken is built to make crypto simple by Bitcoin, Ethereum and over 450 other assets in seconds.

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30:41There. You talk about that where it's like, man, you could see him really starting to go high. His RAS checks almost every single box once the combine was over. So I mean, it's weird because, you know, again, I think he's going to go higher than I would really feel comfortable with him. But if you want to get him, it's probably going to need to be in the rookie draft because afterwards, it's going to cost you a lot more, I believe. Like, we could be in a world where after his rookie season, and I know I'm getting way ahead of us, like playing out that entire year. But like, if he does end up with one of those landing spots, you could we could all be living in a world where it's like, who do you want in dynasty moving forward? Can you sneak or tower warn? And the answer could be sneak. Oh, very easily, right? Especially with knowing what the cold situation is going to be. I mean, I know I'm figuring it out right now because his tower warn lover. So, you know, oh, sorry, Seth. Well, let me help you out the Ebro too for that. Like Tyler Warren's production really started to struggle as, well, Daniel Jones started to struggle and then he got hurt. It was basically like, you know,

31:43you had a lot of name cache in your dynasty value, but you didn't have the production to go with it. So, I still think he's a good titan and it's going to be highly valued, but you could totally see Cedique passing him. I mean, you see what Carol Fanon did this year. I can see something like that maybe even plus in a good landing spot. Yeah, I was super surprised by the time for Cedique just because I feel like a lot of times, we saw Johnson going down the seam for Oregon out of the titan spot. And it was a deep kind of more running these out routes. So, very impressed by him and it's really having me take a long look in the mirror because I actually had Eli Stowers titan out of Vanderbilt over him going into the combine. And I'm going to take him at the 109, the biggest red flag right off the rip, though. We can't bear the lead here. This guy is a tweeter, right? 64, 239 pounds is he Dalton Kade? Could he potentially only be playing half the snaps when he gets on an NFL field? I'm willing to take the gamble at the back half the first, though, that he can put on some more muscle. He can improve as a blocker when he gets in with NFL coaches in a facility. And still there's 2025 John Mackie award winner, right?

32:45Finish six in the SEC and receptions with 62, had almost 800 yards for touchdowns this past season. And what I love about this guy is he kind of reminds me of Tyler Rorn, right? He can line out out wide in line in the back field and super high IQ guy too, former high school quarterback, converted in college and unlike Warren or Citi, this guy has multiple years of a lead production at a top level SEC school. So for me, like, I'm going to smash his draft position under when it drops out there at the sportsbooks. I'm going to continue to smash him in the back half of the first round of dicey rookie drafts. Adam, I haven't heard your opinion on Stowers yet. Is he someone you are a little bit sour on because of the size? Not, I wouldn't necessarily say the size as a whole, right? I mean, if we just said, okay, all things removed and we just went size, pound for pound, I mean, he's two pounds different than Citi, right? And they're almost the same height. So like, I don't, I'll say this from the size perspective alone, no, but I do think I have a little more questions on his overall game as a true tight end,

33:49which then makes the tweener conversation a lot more of a problem. And we've seen this with Razz and guys that look really great where, oh man, there's nothing, but you think about if they can't use him in line or depending on what kind of a situation he goes into and how they do want to deploy him, is he going to be a tweener? I think there's definitely concerns there, but I will say this. Once we get to this point where we're, I think now that Citi was out of the way, right? We're much more into a point at this spot where you're not going to get the same level of guaranteed production. You're not going to get the same level of guaranteed processing profile all those things. So I think if you're going to shoot a shot on a player like this, you saw Citi's a freak, right? He jumped two inches higher than him on the vertical. I mean, I'm like, this guy is a, how's he not playing basketball? This guy's a freak. So he has a lot of the traits I do think that still can translate to a very good tight end for fantasy and the one, he has all the traits that you want in a dynasty tight end. I do, I am a little concerned, but I think the concerns are going to continue to pile up

34:49and get longer list of concerns as we continue to go down this draft. So I don't hate the position of drafting him in the back end of the first year, honestly. Where are you going here, Adam? At the 110 spin, just a bevy of wider sewers and tight ends off the board since your first pick. Yeah, so at this point, right, it's kind of funny. I was, this is not actually, but in a scenario, let's just play this out, right? I know it, let's say I know I have 10 and I know I have 13 like I did here. If I was actually on the clock doing this, I was kind of playing the field and seeing, all right. I don't really think with the running back depth in this class, I was like, I don't think price is going to make it to me at 13. Like I just don't see that scenario. And I really like Cooper. I was, I really do like Omar Cooper. I'm like, you know what, I think there's a better chance. Now, there was a, you know, obviously two picks in front. I mean, either one of you could have taken Cooper and that's not to say that you don't love what your pick was, but I think that's one of the things especially down here in this class, sequencing is a big thing to note, right? And for me, I think Jadaring Price with the running back situation,

35:50there's this running back field is not very deep. I mean, deep row and I were talking about, I think I have six and he has five that we even really truly care about it, honestly, at this point in the process. So for me, it was more about, okay, if I want to get a running back that I do still believe in the profile and like the traits, I think this is my place to get it. And Jadaring Price for me is the running back to and my ranking. So that's what I went with there. Yeah, a guy who certainly carried Notre Dame in 2024 when we actually saw Jeremy, I love pretty banged up and they went all the way to the national championship game flash in opportunities when he had it this past season as well. Derek, where are you going at the 111? I mean, I don't care if it is that it's one quarterback. I still think that quarterbacks carry enough of a value and especially with this like ever changing. Because we have to talk about what the quarterback landscape looks like in the NFL right now. And even in a one quarterback format, like all these different guys are changing hands. A lot of these quarterbacks are aging and their value is dropping.

36:51And basically like to a Kyler, Kirk Cousins, Michael Panics, like the list just goes on and on of guys, like their value has been nuked or it's like, what are you getting out of them past maybe this upcoming season? And so for me, it's like even in a one quarterback format, I'm only going to let Fernando Mendoza fall so far. So I can even at the 111, man. And like I can make a case, I think the case for Mendoza starts at 109 in a one quarterback format. Like right where you get past Kenyans to Dijk and we're all starting to like, you know, it make plays for upside or getting our guys or playing the board in what draft capital it could look like. At that point, that's the Mendoza line. Pun intended. I like that. That was nice delivery. Well done. Yeah, I have all my thoughts between. It feels safe. It feels safe to me, right? Like this guy loves football more than anything. He's non-social media is other than LinkedIn. I mean, he's just locked into football all the time. And I think when you have a guy like Kubiak

37:51coming over to take the reins of this offense and operation as a whole, it just creates a really nice upside to kind of match that floor. And in a year and just landscaping the NFL where we're seeing so many veteran quarterbacks discarded whether that's Kyler Murray, too. I think there's always some just brilliance in having a guy who's going to be on a five-year contract and is going to have a long window and run away in the NFL. So at the 111 Derrick goes for Nando Mendoza. I'm going to go Jonah Coleman out of Washington here at the 112. Didn't love that he didn't test it the combine other than the bench press. Like to me, that was a huge misform. But I still think he's in the conversation for RB2 because falls up a really nice 1,000 yard 10 touchdown season at Washington in 2024 with another 750 yards, 17 combined touchdowns first in the big 10 in 2025. And then flash a ton in the past game, too, right? Like set career highs and receptions, 31 receiving yards, 350 plus. And like to me, yes, this guy had a successful career

38:55as an underclass minute Arizona and then goes on. So he has the production. And I know everyone's big concern with him is the size. But like Ray Rice or the thing, right? F-I-V-A-220 kind of similar lower center of gravity. And a lot of times with that lower center of gravity comes some really strong vision. So I think that's kind of what I like from Jonah Coleman. And I just don't see a ton of backs in this class that have three down skill set. And while he's still smaller a little bit, at least from a hype perspective, I think he is absolutely gonna see some passing game work and could be a first and second down run back. And I think he still slides into day two of the NFL draft. So Adam, any thoughts here on the picks of Fernando and Coleman before we close out the first round? No, I mean, I think my thoughts are for Mendoza. Admittedly, I don't play in a lot of 1QB, but in this scenario, right, you're in the back end of the first round. I think in that format, right, the tradeability for quarterbacks across isn't gonna be high. However, let's say I'm in this scenario where I almost want to title there.

39:55I'm at the 111, right? And I don't have a very good quarterback situation. I don't have any problem at all saying, you know, well, I'm gonna go ahead and get Mendoza here to try to show up if you got by with Rodgers or whatever the situation would be. I think depending on your team, I would have zero issue with that if you needed a quarterback there. And I think for Coleman, he's kind of in, he's kind of in this tier for me. I have actually four running backs that you kind of hit it where I want to, I wish he would have run at the combine because I do, I really would have liked to see, you know, what his metrics were, but I don't have a problem with it. I will say after the combine, post combine, he would have gone for me, Mike Washington Jr., who Debro gets to in a couple picks. I took Omar Cooper if we were changing things today. Yeah. I think that's what Washington would have definitely gone up because what he did at the combine, I knew he was athletic and I knew he was explosive, but goodness man, I did not quite, sorry, I was not that familiar with your game. He exploded in the combine. That's exactly where I was gonna ask you too, Seth. Like in being just keeping a transparent

40:58with this thought exercise, like we started this before the combine. We were, I think when running backs and all the skill guys were testing, we were somewhere at the middle or the back end of the second round. If you could do this all over, would you still take Coleman, or would you take Mike Washington or would you go into the direction, knowing what we know now, or what we don't know now because Coleman did the test? Before there was a bigger gap, I'm still going Coleman over Washington, but the gap is smaller just because of the complete process here for Coleman, like seeing what he's done at Washington the past couple of seasons, especially when they didn't have a good quarterback and, you know, Jetfish kind of just getting his feet under him as a head coach too. Like I really like the stability that Coleman brought. So the gap is smaller though. The gap is certainly smaller. And I think, I think I said this earlier this week on one of our shows, Derek, that like RB2 to RB6 to me, very interchangeable, very, very fluid and landing spot and draft capital will matter a ton. Let's go ahead though and move into the second round. But before we do that, a real quick reminder

41:59that our dynasty draft simulator helps you complete a mock draft in minutes with no waiting between picks. You can customize your leak settings to match your leaks. Exact format premium subscribers can test trade snares by mocking their traded draft picks prepare for rookie drafts and dynasty started drafts all in one place. Use the dicey draft simulator to dominate your rookie draft today at fancy pros.com slash simulator. And we're on to the second round. We're going to speed things up as we get into the back half of the draft here. But Adam, I got to give you the floor with this first pick of the second round. 13 overall, you're going one of my other favorite players coming out of IU. Yeah, I mean, listen, as I was telling you, I would probably have taken Washington now after the combine. But I will say it's not like something I'm like terribly regretting or like it's massively switched now because I still like Omar Cooper quite a bit. And he did honestly pretty well in the combine his own right. He just didn't quite, I think, make that next big leap

43:00and jump as far as moving tears. He kind of did what I was expecting him to. And so again, it would just come down to sequencing where there are a couple wide receivers after Cooper that I still like, although the list starts to get pretty thin. After Mike Washington here who I did not select with DeBro took, it would, it really gets to be very thin. So that would, that would really be the only thing I would change. But Omar Cooper to me at this point, like the one thing is for this draft being as shallow as it is, if you're in the top of the round two, to get a guy like Omar Cooper, honestly, isn't that bad. I think the cliff isn't quite as soon as everybody thinks it is in the 26th class as far as like the value falling completely off of a cliff. I do think it's coming here in round two, but I think at the moment, late first, early second, maybe they're not the process, prospect that you're used to getting in 24 or even last year's class, but I do think you're still getting talented players and Omar Cooper to me is one of them. He can do a lot of different things. Well, and that could look totally different if Cooper makes it into the first round

44:01like he's getting in some minds too. If he goes first round and we get six wide receivers going in the first round and people are going to push him up and again, they're going to feel a little bit better about this class than maybe they do right now. And that's the other thing too. With what I have at the moment, right? If you tell me that in a few months here that Mike Washington ends up falling out of day two and Omar Cooper went round one, I mean, I didn't have the conversation, right? So there's still a lot of things that got to go into play here. I do think this at least, I'll say about Cooper. I feel pretty confident that he's going to end up being a top 50 pick at worst. And for me, that's kind of a threshold. Whether it's like, if you're in round one, obviously, it's arrows up. But if you're, let's say in the 40s, you're inside the top 50, that's the draft capital I'm looking for and dynasty to really solidify, okay? The NFL told me what they think about you. They really like you. Yeah, that's kind of the lad Maconkey or someone kind of in that range territory of draft capital that you still really like to see. And Omar Cooper, Jr., as he said, just a guy who really in his early career

45:03was someone who showed more as a deep threat, but then this past season just became a really, really complete player to the point where Charlie Becker was really the deep threat for IU. And they're using Cooper a lot more underneath. So I love to see that versatility from him. And Derek, we said his name about 500 times already. So go ahead and give us your 202, please. Yeah, I'll just go ahead and do the boring thing, I guess, right now. Mike Washington, Jr., running back on our Arkansas. Come on down, man. We've talked glowingly about him since the freaking senior ball on this show and we'll continue to do so. I said before the combine, he was the most underrated runner-back in this entire freaking class. Stand on that tento's down. Now you see the testing. He's a mutant. I think he probably goes in the third round of the NFL draft. I would be surprised if he goes round two. But, man, we see the NFL over, a double count speed and testing and all this kind of stuff. And if you were to tell me a team falls in love with him in a shallow running back class and says,

46:05we're not going to play chicken in the third round and they take him at the back end of the second round. I honestly wouldn't be surprised either. It depends on where he falls on team's boards and what they think about this draft class for running backs. Some teams might stack this up and say, it's Jeremiah Love and Mike Washington or Buss. They might not like any of these other running backs. That's a possibility because every one of these running backs past love has questions and stuff. And the mutant type of testing might put Washington in a tear above all these other guys. I'm not saying that that's definitive, but that might be the case for some NFL teams and the way they're stacking their boards. For absolute, I mean, you got to think about it, right? If you're not familiar, the guy's 223, right? We're in a 4-3-3 at the combine. I was going to ask you, Deebro, I know you were high on them going into this. Did you expect him to quite show out like this? Did you expect Freak Athlete out of the guy? Because this is the thing for me. I liked his game, but I did not expect him to explode in the combine to this level of athlete, Frank.

47:05I thought he was going to test extremely well. I didn't see 4-3-3 coming. I did not see that coming. I thought he was going to run a low, a mid to low, depending on, because the other part about this is not all these guys. You're going to stay in the 4-4, so, right? I was going to say like I thought he was going to run in the mid to low 4-4s, depending on how much he's been training for that, because not all these guys have track backgrounds. Not all these guys run the podium stuff well. It's just to get to give context at the running back position. That's essentially what a 188 pound Devon Hane ran, right? The 4-3-2 is what Hane ran. Yeah. So understand 4-3-3 is essentially on the the highest end that you'll see of any running back period, and almost all of them are sub to 200, right? Yep. So you're talking about a guy that I think I'll say this. I agree with probably where he's going to land. I wouldn't be shocked to see him go round two, just because those type of traits you just, you can't teach that. You can teach a lot of things. You just cannot teach someone that's going to be that explosive.

48:06So I do think he's probably going to be more like a round three guy, but if he was a round two guy personally for me, I think you got to probably take him in this class back into round one, honestly. I don't disagree. Like I think like the conversation, depending on where he gets drafted in the landing spot, the conversation from Mike Washington Jr. starts at the 109 for me. Yeah. I mean, he's in the conference for price and stowers and where we were with those guys. Like if he gets that kind of in a happy capital here, right here. I agree there for sure. Well, maybe a tier break then comes at 203, but I'm going to stick with my theme of running backs with great vision and patience and take K-Tron Allen out of Penn State off the board here, former four star recruit, very much the change of pace running back at Penn State, really until halfway through this past season, but still managed to set that Penn State record for most all time rushing yards, which we've had so many good running backs up here in Happy Valley, whether it's Sequan, Miles Sanders, Evan Roister going back in the day, right? And for him to have that school record is just astounding.

49:08And then the fact that he lost through Aller at this juncture this year where James Franklin got fired and still average 6.2 yards per carry was still super efficient, even with the volume increase for 1,300 total yards, earns that all big 10 honors as well. I'm just really excited about a guy who maybe he's not a premier athlete, but he's a great North South type of running back who when you just need yards, when you just need to move the chains, he's your type of guy, like even if the past catching isn't there at the next level, I think he's still very much like a Zach Charminet type of player where you could get the goal line job early, have five to seven touchdowns as a rookie. And I would like love to see him maybe potentially in Detroit to replace Dave Montgomery in that role. So Adam, go ahead with the 204 now if you would please. Yeah, so for me at the 204, I would say one thing real quickly on the island. And I think to give him credit, his flower, so to speak, I mean, this is also he did that alongside the entire time, what was the number one overall running back

50:10in that class in Nick Singleton, right? And so that's, listen, the politics in college honestly are no joke either. And so to do that, I think we really should not, that shouldn't be dismissed and under looked honestly. I'll say for me, the next pick was Malachi Fields. I still do like Malachi Fields, but I will say I was hoping to see a little more at the combine frankly. So he arrow slightly down, but he didn't, one thing I want to say is you don't want a double count either way, right? So I didn't expect it to be this crazy freak athlete or super, super fast. So it's not like a big time knock, but it definitely, when I'm splitting hairs in this part of the draft, for me, him and Omar Cooper were probably close or two similar going into the combine. I think at this point, I will move Omar Cooper into a head of Malachi Fields personally for me. So I don't mind him in this range, but honestly, I wouldn't hate if you wanted to take a brazzle ahead of him. Ted Hurst had of him. There's other receivers I think at this point

51:10in my process that I would put ahead of him knowing what I know today. Yeah, it's just tough for someone like Fields where it seemed like a lot of his production came this year. I don't want to say by circumstance, but you had no Jane great house for half the year. You had just injuries kind of piling up on that Notre Dame pass catching core where Malachi Fields was really able to be unleashed late in the season. So and it's tough to get past for me the lack of production for his career and then also not being a freak athlete. Derek, kind of a similar story, but someone who has a ton of production, maybe just not a freak athlete coming here at the 205 for you. Yeah, I mean, and again, we're talking about this and being transparent. We started this mock before the combine and continue to through it. So with our picks of fields and my guy right here and Emma Johnson running back out in Nebraska, it comes down to what a teams think about him in the draft capital and where does he land? And for me, people are going to crush him by the combine. And if you thought he was running a 4-4,

52:12he was gonna turn in just as immense combine, you didn't watch his film and you honestly aren't familiar with his game. That's that that that point I think is it. I think I'm at Johnson's gonna have this very split. Yeah, we polarize four five was good for him, dude. Like that's not a bad time for him. Like if he ran in the mid four sixes, fine. Let's so let's drop him right. And all that one to be the fastest running back. Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be that. But a four five 40 is not a coffin male for him. Like that's not how he wins. He wins with vision, he wins with his lateral agility. And then people are gonna say, oh, the three cone and stuff like that. Dude, this all puts it into like the NFL is gonna tell us what they think about him. Based off the film, based off of his talent, the numbers and stuff like that, I think he's a third round running back. Now with all of this, could he drop to the fourth of fifth round, it's possible. The NFL is gonna tell us that with draft capital and landing spots. And you know, when we look back in two, three weeks, say, you know, after the NFL draft, what have you?

53:14Like, could this be a bad pick right now where we're at? Absolutely. Could this also be a guy that like, we're also looking in the crystal ball and a year and a half later we're saying, okay, he was the Bucky Irving of this class. I wouldn't shock me either, dude. Wouldn't. Bucky Irving, Kyron Williams, I think, if anything, I've shown, if you're at this point, right, where it's kind of polarizing, but if you trust the film and that's your guy, I think, I think you just kind of, especially in a class like this at this range, you make your bed and lay in it, man. If he ends up being the player that you think, and you see him on film, you trust that, he has the potential to go significantly higher. And I think that's even with the draft capital, potentially being day three. So that's just the one thing I wanted to say, we don't want to use those outliers as, you know, oh, that's why I should do this all the time. But I do think his game is very much similar where it's like, okay, if what you saw on film and what is gonna necessarily be there from a, you know, metric standpoint from time, they're not the same thing.

54:14And that's not why you were gonna draft him anyway, frankly. No, and yeah, the other thing that helps him is the fact that he's not a two-down grinder. He's actually a past game weapon. And so it's not like we're even discussing a guy like, and no shade, but like, Kyron Allen, where he's like, if he gives you anything in the passing game, like a Blake Cromortyler Algier, put your hands up and then you're rejoicing. And he's actually good in the passing game too. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's definitely fair. When you have someone like Emmett Johnson too, like let's not forget the system and just the circumstances he was up against. He had T-Mu Patrick Mahomes who very overrated prospect his team's like throwing them the ball. And then T-Mu Patrick Mahomes get hurt halfway through the year and he had absolutely no offense. And he was someone who when he would hit home runs, he'd get tracked down late. So I'm not surprised by the 40. I think it's a really good value still here at the 205, at the 206 though, I'm going to move forward here with Antonio Williams, Widers, he brought a Clemson. And in my opinion, I think he's one of the best pure slot Widers, he was in this class guy that just thrives

55:17in traffic still only 21 years old as well. A guy who bursted on in the scene as a freshman all American then took the conference by storm as a junior led the ACC and receiving touchdowns with a hundred with 11 and then also finished third and receptions with 75. Comes back this past year and why you're getting a discount is because he had that hamstring issue to begin the season. That's also why Clemson's offense was absolutely atrocious out of the gate this season when they were a projected top five preseason team. And as soon as he comes back, good things happen. Kade Klubnik this past season while targeting 125.4 QB rating. So I think it be lands on a team like the Patriots that know how to use slot Widers, he was effectively and they also play him in two Widers, he was set. He could be on a Rossi rice like trajectory to begin his career. So I really like Antony Williams. I think he's a value in the middle of the second round. Who do you think's a value at the 207 Adam? Yeah, so I'll say this, especially here, right? Middle to late part of the second round.

56:19I am at the point where the player I'm drafting Chris Brazler is second here. Honestly, it's, I'm shooting for upside now. I know that there is a very good chance if I'm selecting here that I'm gonna miss frankly. Or I'm not gonna hit somebody that's gonna have this crazy high upside. But if I'm in this range and I do end up not trading the pick or whatever, this is the type of player that I would like to draft. I think there's a lot of refinement that he needs frankly. If I'm being honest about Chris Brazler's game, I think there's a lot of times where he's really fast but doesn't create separation. I think he has, you don't see a lot of press coverage on him. But what I will say is you don't also get to say, okay, let's take a, let's take a player pool in the NFL. Let's say six four, 200 whatever pounds, roughly, which is what I think he weighed in at 195, something like that. Roughly 200 pounds, but he's running a 437. And there's potential draft capital that's decent. I think that's gonna be a really small list of players. And so Chris Brazler also has that rocket ship ability

57:20where people are gonna want to see him tall and fast. It always looks good for people. And if you see him have some big highlight plays in the NFL, you can see his draft stock not just rise tremendously, but his dynasty value rise like crazy. So I just think that for him, he's on the fence as far as, I do like some of the things in this game. I definitely don't think he's a, you know, a sure fire can't use project. But I think if I'm in this range, he's definitely one of the guys I'm targeting in this range where it's like, okay, if all things do hit, you have the potential to really trade into tears so you have no idea. Basically all these guys don't have that type of upside, I think as far as what the dynasty market will give them. Yeah, that's very, very fair. And Derek from one of the biggest most historic programs in college football Tennessee, you're taking us to one of the absolute worst, just an absolute dog crap program over the past couple seasons. But they still did produce one of your favorite prospects in this class. Damn right, Ted Hurst, baby. Let's go to the state, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I freaking loved Ted Hurst.

58:21I've loved him ever since it turned on his film before the senior bowl. He's gonna be a top 10 wide receiver freeing this class right now. And I've still got a few wide receivers to get through. I don't see anybody that I have left to watch that I have not watched right now that I think is going to jump him in my rankings. So I'm just gonna go ahead and say it with my chest. Ted Hurst is my wide receiver aided this class. I think he's absolutely freaking fantastic. Wow, he went out there and he tested it awesome. I knew that was gonna happen. The team's gonna turn on the film and they are going to love this kid. And from, I have him over Chris Brazill and I wanna be very clear about why I have that. I like Brazill a lot. I really, really do. He's big, he's fast, it shows up on his film. He's not like every other freaking Tennessee wide receiver that has come out of this Josh Hype, like gimmicky BS system, where everybody runs from bunch formations and stack formations and free releases. He actually has route running chops.

59:22To me, the differentiating quality between Hurst and Brazill specifically and with these two guys going back-to-back in this draft, why I put Hurst above Brazill? Brazill doesn't play up to his size and strength, whether it's after the catch at the catch point in route's physicality. I bet that the catch for sure is not his thing. It's not, but Hurst does, dude. He has that dog in him. He will not be pushed off his line. He is a dog at the freaking catch point. And I don't care that it was versus lower competition. It shows up on the film. I think it translates and I love this kid. Really do. Okay, all right. Ted Hurst is the pick there for Derek. I'm gonna go back to the happy valley well with Nicholas Singleton at a Penn State here. And to me, it's just like taking a discount on another player that he's only available on the board and getting him this cheap because of injury, right? I'm telling you right now, Singleton didn't break his foot in Mobile at the senior role. He'd be having the same conversations around him

1:00:24that we're having about Mike Washington, Jr. Because this guy is a freak five star recruit. One of the best prospects we've ever landed at Penn State, the running back position, minus Sequan Barclay Big Ten freshmen in the year would go on to set the Penn State all-time record for total touchdowns as well. And just had a sensational career, the whole way through the biggest concern was that after putting up 3,000 yards in his first couple of seasons that he comes out this year, just looks nothing like him himself. Honestly got benched for K-Tron Allen, once James Franklin was fired. And still, like I think like Mike Washington, he's the ideal frame, six foot, 225. You love that. And I think he has a lead speed. I think he would be go out there and run a 4-3-4 or a 4-3-5 if he was healthy. I'm just gonna make picks later than Washington. So I love it here. That's playing Pokemon here. All the Penn State backs, you gotta collect them all. Well, I'm kind of curious, D-Bro, for your thoughts here on Singleton, because I don't have any disagreement set that the traits are all there.

1:01:24I think he would have been a combine warrior. I think he's one of these guys that's kind of built into that. I don't think people realize how fast he is relative to his size too. But D-Bro, what's your thoughts on him concerns on for him? Obviously, we both let him fall to this point too. So what are your thoughts on Singleton? Seth already knows. I'm a Singleton hater. I haven't had that. I kind of felt that. So I felt, I'm not the host. I feel like I can give you a fair share. I'm not that high on him, man, but whether it's a tape or film stuff, I know that he's a free athlete. I know all of that. I don't think it consistently translates to the football field like most people do. And this is, I'm not talking shade at Seth. This is just difference in opinions here. And with Singleton, like when I look at a guy that over the last three years, he has ranked 152nd, 56th, and 125th in yards of to contact for a tent. In breakaway rate, because he's so damn fast, except for he's 143rd, 44th, and 140th,

1:02:25and those metrics. That's fair. That kind of stuff is concerning to me. And for my tapey, Val, I think it kind of lines up. So like, Is it vision? Is it, you know, patience? I think it is vision. What do you see? I just, I think he's a linear upright runner, man. And I think like he doesn't translate the work out and the, because we see this all the time, man. Like, tell me about like, okay, when everybody, let's be kind of rewind. When everybody evaluated somebody like a Nico Collins when he came out of Frickin Michigan, you were like, this dude is an otherworldly alien athlete, but he was raw and he wasn't translating all of that physical ability to the field and how he ran routes and the numbers and everything else. Now, he figured it out in the Frickin NFL, when we've also seen like the flip side of that where it's like guys like Rashad White when he came out and everybody's like, oh my God, he's like, he's a ridiculous athlete and he's this kind of a receiver and stuff like that. And it's like, Rashad White has never been

1:03:26a top tier tackle breaker. And he's never been when I think everybody hoped he would be in the NFL. And for me, that's how singleton kind of feels like for me. It's like, I don't dispute a lot of the traits that he has. I just don't see them show up in the analytics and on the field consistently. That's fair. I honestly going into this football season, I was so in on singleton actually thinking about them playing Notre Dame, going back two years and he did really well in that game. And then this year, I think, and then looking at some of the tape further, for me, my concerns are that he doesn't actually run as explosive when contacted. And he also doesn't run away from contact when needed too as much. A lot of his big explosive plays, you just don't see him have anything other than green in front of him. So, you know, I think at this point, it's probably not a horrible pick because of the upside traits. But I just, there's really not that much left that really makes me say you can't take anything here.

1:04:27Because he has the pedigree and everybody knows that if he could have tested, he would have tested really well. So it's like, I think there's a high floor in the NFL draft for him even though he didn't do the combine. Even though he has the foot injury. Like, I don't think he's a guy we're gonna see drop out of the NFL draft. No, and I think the last tiebreaker here is that, and this is positive for Singleton is that in Debbie, ladies, right, people have basically had this name. He's a very well-known name and people have had this on their board. So if he lands in a decent spot and he has some production early, this is a guy that people, I think, will constantly push on their dynasty ranks. Oh, in this range, I think that's kind of where, I wouldn't let him go much further than here. Can we call that the Blake Korum Corollary? There's the Korum of fact. I like that. I do. I really do. Let's go ahead, Adam. Last pick for you in the second round at the 210. Who is it? Jeremy Bernard, and I'll be honest with you here. This is where I still like him, but I struggle to find for him where he's gonna be

1:05:27a difference maker for me at the receiver position, especially like the combine was fine. Nothing, check the boxes, right? He checks what I was looking to have him do. I think this is going to kind of come down to format for me. I play in a lot of best ball leagues. In best ball, I want receivers like this on my team. I think in a lot of lineup leagues, Jeremy Bernard, Dianne Brooks, some of the guys I take later. I'm probably going to be looking to try to swing elsewhere, either trade the pick or draft right now. Sure. We don't have that much upside. That's kind of where we get to in this late part of the second, early part of the third. If I'm just being transparent about the 26th class, this is where I start to really be like, eh, they can be fine on full players. I just don't see a lot of fantasy upside, right? And definitely making a need of moving upside here. Sure, and you don't want to be stuck with bench cloggers, right? That's the worst thing in Dianne's C is just to have a bunch of guys you can't use and you can't really get anything from the trade market for me there. Derek, where are you going at to 11? I'm gonna go with the guy that right now,

1:06:28I've got a few more Titans to watch in this class, but he's kind of in a tier by himself. He didn't test, but I think you see enough on the film to where I think he's got four or six speed, he's very athletic, he's got receiving upside and chops. I'm gonna take Max Clare Titan out of Ohio State. The analytics lineup as well, he was 27th in the act in 2025. Ohio State just doesn't really use the fricking Titans and a lot of that comes down to the talented he's playing around him. When you're sitting behind Jeremiah Smith and fricking Karnel Tade who I just wax poetic about, it's gonna be hard to earn a high target chair and stuff like that, but again, we are discussing a tight end that in 2024, he was 11th and yeah, amongst all Titans and 11th in yards per out run. So the analytics and the tape lineup that like, this is a player that Clare could go and I would, I'm not gonna say I'm projecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of these like round two Titans that like, you know, he gets drafted and then kind of like, all over it and strange or something like that.

1:07:28Ben Stranger, it's not like we're, everybody's kind of like, and then like, you know, in the NFL, all the NFL execs are like, yep, okay, Jack there, he's gone. But I think like probably projecting round three draft capital, I think it's pretty fair for him right now. And I'm in on him at that point. That's kind of the, if you look back over the history of the NFL and all these different guys, the George Kiddles, the Mark Andrews and I'm not Harold Fanon, all those different guys, you get round three or round four draft capital, that's totally freaking fine. Cause if you can play, you can play. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I like to pick there. And I'm honestly, frankly, surprised this guy's still on the board, we can meet Jacoby Lane here, water see route at USC because as much of I, as I've enjoyed watching lemon out there in Southern California in the past few seasons, I've really liked Jacoby Lane and this Lincoln Riley led offense, right? I mean, just felt like whenever Jay Neba is scrambling around and needs a big play, Lane was consistently there. Well, receiving touchdowns as a sophomore, fifth in the country, then comes back this year and just really puts it all together in terms of production.

1:08:2949 reception, 745 yards, four touchdowns. And like this isn't the USC offense that I at least grew up with where it's Reggie Bush, Lindell White, you know, all these absolute studs. It was a much more conservative one than we've seen in the past where the defense actually played somewhat better than we can remember, at least from Lincoln Riley led defenses. So I really think that like no one's really talking about him after the con by when he checked all the box is six four, scored a 9.69 rats as well success in this class, which includes a 4.4740 time, which as six four is pretty dang good. So I think the former four star did enough in the pre draft process as well as in season to keep himself as a day to pick here, which just makes that hill easier to climb. Once you get into day three, that hill is way tougher to climb into viable fantasy production. So out of any thoughts here on the last two picks of the second round. Well, I will say this for me, Jacoby Lane, I actually just got done watching, going back and watching him again at, he's gonna be someone that I would have taken transparently.

1:09:30He would be ahead of Jeremy Bernard for me at this point in my ranks now. So it's not like a crazy gap for me, but I will say I definitely would prefer Lane. So that was one I want to have back in its funny, though, I will tell you that going into round three here, you definitely snipe me. I was hoping I could get him in front of DM, but obviously you've got him here. So I like his game. I do think, again, for fantasy upside and difference making ability, I'm not sure that it exists, but I will say in this range, he's closer to the Brazil tier for me than he is the guys like Jeremy Bernard and Dianne Burke. So I'd like that pick a lot. We're real quick, Adam. If you can go back and do it over again, would you take pain over Malachi Fields with what you know? Cause I have lane right ahead of fields in my rankings. It's funny cause I have lane fields, Brazil and Hurst in a tier. Okay, got you. I will tell you at the moment right now, it's like, I don't really see a lot of difference. It's just going to take the guy that falls last in that tier

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1:12:34And Adam, we're gonna go ahead and open the third round with a player from you, someone that I had a 45-to-1 ticket on to run the fastest 40. I knew it was a long shot, but it felt good after that first set of wide receivers on Saturday. Absolutely, man. And he, listen, his frame kind of requires, and that was the thing about it for me. At this part, actually believe it or not, we hadn't quite seen this part of the combine yet when we made this top of the third. But for me, his draft capital is gonna be obviously something to keep in mind here, but I needed to see this for me to feel anything positive about being a third round pick and dynasty drafts. He's got, the frame is small, but he does have elite speed, as you see. And I think it would be interesting to see him in the landing spot where he's kind of attached to a gunslinger. And I think that would be a big bone for him, potentially, to have some type of a rise. I have a lot of questions about his game still, but there's one thing you can't teach. And, you know, as Pat Summer always to say, speed kills.

1:13:34Yeah, Deon Berks was certainly someone whenever Jom and Tear needed a big play, whether, you know, they were trailing in that LSU game, whether they're trailing against South Carolina. Berks was that big play waiting to happen. Derek, where are you going here at the 302, my friend? So I know this is gonna be a controversial pick. One, where I'm selecting this guy in a one quarterback format, two, the fact that he is the QB2 off the board here, and I don't care. I'm taking both eight in here, quarterback, I don't know what to go to state. And I'm projecting some draft capital here, like I'm buying into the buzz that he could go round two, round three, and totally fine with that. In a one quarterback format, I want to be very, very specific about this. If I'm taking a quarterback outside of that, doesn't have that type of draft capital, where he goes in the first round of the NFL draft, you have to have rushing upside for me. And so that's why I'm taking Cole Peyton here, because if he does work out, this is the same bet that, like,

1:14:35I feel like people made on Jalen Milro last year, or they've made on previous guys, so they're gonna make and tail in green and like, four to fifth round of a rookie draft. I was just gonna say that, Taylor and Green is gonna be a name. I was gonna bring up, go ahead, you talked up. No, and that's fine. And that's fine. But I think the difference between those two guys, is they're both ridiculously athletic. They both carry the rushing upside. You stack them up as prospects. And to me, there is no competition with Cole Peyton as a passer versus Taylor and Green as a passer. That's where I think it absolutely is different for me, and why I'm taking Cole Peyton here, if he gets that type of draft capital, and the other thing I will just throw out here, I'm not drafting Ty Simpson. I am out on Ty Simpson. He is not a first round quarterback, great for me. I'm not a believer. I'm just not. If I'm wrong on that, fine, I'm wrong. Well, let's go ahead and go right there to the three of three, where I have Ty Simpson quarterback out of Alabama. He is still my quarterback too. I will say though, after the Rams, who's traded out of the back half of the first round,

1:15:36I'm a little bit shaky now, whether this guy will be a first round pick. That's where I was walking him. That's where I think a lot of people were mocking him. And the metrics don't jump off the screen by any means. He did lead the SEC and past completions, but he also led it in attempts, and he threw for roughly 3600 yards, 28 touchdowns. But I also don't think the arm strength is elite. What I really like about Ty Simpson though, he's a bit of a field general, right? I think between the helmet, this guy is really sharp. I think if he got in a Sean McVey, Kyle Shanahan type of offense that he could really do something well, and he kind of proved that this past year when he had absolutely no run game, Jam Miller was an absolute scrub when he got back, got banged up even before he got on the field this year. And I don't also know if like the Ryan Grub offense is just a little bit overrated these days as well. But I really like what he did at Bama as far as like moving the chains when he had to be the entire offense. Specifically, if you guys remember in that iron bowl game where it came down to it, Ty Simpson was put in balls on a laser when they knew he was in obvious passing down situation.

1:16:37So Adam, I'd love to get your conjecture here at this point. Ty Simpson, Cole Payton, do you have one over the other? Are you interested in either when it comes to one quarterback format? I will tell you this as far as, well, to answer the first question, it's Cole Payton over Ty Simpson. I'm probably not taking Ty Simpson, honestly. I mean, unless he really falls and super flex, frankly, just not, I'm just not a believer to be honest with you. I won't sugarcoat it. And I will tell you that Taylor and Greene as someone as I look back throughout this process and in super flex, I'm fully aware that there's a chance he may end up being a complete bust and he has some, he makes some very big throws on plays, but he also, you could tell the accuracy is not all weighed, lined in all the time. To me, the one thing is, especially after the combine and seeing more of his game, he reminds me of Terrell Pryor, honestly, like the athletic upside, he's a bit six, six, four, three, six.

1:17:39I mean, basically, if I'm gonna bet on a quarterback, really late in drafts, it's gonna be someone that I don't necessarily believe has to have the best upside as far as NFL success. I'm just looking for, can he give me fantasy success? Yeah. I look at what Nileek Willis did this last year. He's someone like that where I don't necessarily know if it's gonna translate to long-term dynasty upside, but I kind of, at this point for quarterback, whether it's in one quarterback or superflex, I'm looking to kind of shoot my shot on that upside of if this guy just gets behind center, he could take off for a 50 yard run at any point. New Terrell Pryor is still to this date, by the way, longest rush of any quarterback. I think it was 98 yards over and over. Okay, yeah. On my Pittsburgh Steelers, I remember that very clearly and also the pride of Al Quipa, Pennsylvania, Terrell Pryor. Listen, that's a, not to my own horn, but back in the day, he gave Terrell Pryor some work, played him in AAU, him, the Wombler, dude is a freak, dude's a freak athlete, though. He can, and the Wombler was on that team? Oh my goodness. Okay. It's Pittsburgh Jots, yeah, so in his classic.

1:18:41So, Taylin Green, is he over Colpayton and Simpson for you? Is he your QB2? Yeah, he would be, but honestly, I mean, Colpayton are both in a similar tier. Colpayton, not quite as athletic as far as like home-run hitting ability, but Colpayton, honestly, to me, has the ability to make plays with his legs in scramble and probably has enough as a rusher to be a plus guy. Okay. So, I'm definitely still in on Colpayton. Tay Simpson, I'm just, personally, I'm not as high on those two guys though. All right, well, Adam with all the surprises now that I know he's a top tier athlete going against one of, one of Pit Panthers all times legends at basketball and Terrell Pryor on the same team. What are you doing here at 304? Any shockers under the hood for you this time, Adam? No, I don't think there's any shockers at least left for me in this draft to be completely honest with you. Chris Bell, though, is, I think he's a solid prospect. I do think from me, draft capital is gonna be a big thing. And when I look across the board at Mox here, there's not a consensus, frankly. I like this game. I do like a lot of the traits he has.

1:19:42I think he does need to work on his footwork a little bit and refining routes, but I don't know. I think at this point of the draft, I felt very good about this pick. The only thing I would throw in versus any of these players is if you wanted to shoot your shot on a tailing green because of upside, that's fine. Outside of that, Chris Bell to me this pick, I feel good about it. I just don't feel great about making picks in this range if I'm being honest. Yeah, I'm here for Chris Bell. Another guy who's kind of seen a revolving door of middling quarterbacks and is still produced out there at Louisville. So Derek, you are on a player going back to your, not your alma mater, but what should be your alma mater since you are technically a booster at this point. So where are you going here at 305? Dude, he crushed the combine. And I think we did this mock all over again. I think he would go higher, probably, getting into the second round. And I think some of this is also with me projecting draft capital here, like everybody talks about, oh, this wide receiver is going to go round two. Again, there's only 32 freaking teams drafting

1:20:43and round two. I don't think he makes it around through the NFL draft. I don't think that because he didn't have the ability with the stage, like a previous North Dakota state alum, to go to the senior bowl and put on everything at film and just show out like that. So I don't think he gets into the second round of the NFL draft, but Bryce Lance, dude, huge, huge fan of his game. And again, going back to guys that just tested and jumped out of the freaking combine gym. It's like, bro, like at 6304, he ran at 43440. He jumped 41.5 in the vert, 111 in the broad. I mean, this is, and I don't, I stay away from stuff like this because of same college, same, I'm not going to, I'm not going to bypass it because I just think he's Christian Watson 2.0. That's the way that I view his game. I love his game and to put some analytics behind all of this amongst all FPS and FCS wide receivers last year

1:21:43with at least 50 targets, bright slants, eighth and receiving grade, eighth in yards per reception, sixth in yards per out run. It shows up on the field, on the film, guys, like, I think you could play, I really do. And this is where it comes down to guys like Bryce Lance and Ted Hearst, those are the players where it's like, I'm going to be above consensus and where I think that if they hit out of this class, then people walk away from this class and say, you know what, this class was a lot better than we gave a credit for. It's interesting you brought up Watson too because, well, not just obviously the school and the comparison there, but Christian Watson, you go back to the 22 class, right? And the 22 class is the last class that, since it's funny, it's starting to feel old, I remember doing that on and it was like, that had this stink about it, right? Similar to this 26 class where it's like, I have people don't want these picks. I remember people didn't want first round because they didn't want any 22 picks. And Christian Watson was a guy that ended up going late first

1:22:44and early second in that class when the combine hit, when his draft capital came out. And honestly, you know, with Debrose takes and where he's at it with receivers, I think I'll probably end up on his own opinion, just probably taking some shots on Lance here, just hearing that because it's one of those in this range again where if I miss, I'm kind of expecting to in this range. But if you get a handful of shares of a Bryce Lance who gets, let's say, looks even like Christian Watson at some point, he's going to have a value surge that's going to, at least multiply our two, three, four times what you drafted him at in this late third. Well, and people want to hate on that class just to bring up that class. We do all remember that Wando Robinson came out of that class, George Pickens came out of that class, Alec Pierce, because we can all have a revision as history about like, Alec Pierce has turned into something collier, Shakir. So, Jamison Williams, the list goes on and on and people get so tied to their priors and stuff about classes or like their thoughts on a class. And it's like, you also have to understand

1:23:44like there's a lot of these guys where people are going to be wrong about and we're going to have guys that come out of the woodwork for everybody that's like, but if he doesn't get drafted in the first round, he's not a good player. Oh, okay, because we don't have the Cooper Cups of the world, we don't have the Adam Thielins of the world, we don't have the Terry McClaurne's of the world, we don't have Jalen Coakers of the world, all the Pukinacuas of the world, like all of these other guys where it's like, yeah, we could play the draft capital game, but then you look at all the top-in fantasy producers and how draft class, how this actually shakes out and it's like, I don't want to go betting on outliers, but the NFL is full of them, full of them. Yeah, for sure. And one thing, it's really interesting actually is you're bringing this up. This is a more holistic point, but I think it goes to Lance and a lot of the people that you're going to draft here. People will have a feeling in a prior about the 26th class and they're probably not, like trading out of these picks, let's say, it's probably not going to be super desirable unless Debrose coming to get Hearst from you

1:24:45and you can tell, right, like he's coming to get his guy. Right. That said, you stick and pick, right, with some of these. If there's any like Iota towards the end of the year where you're seeing upside, people really, really though, they hang onto that so strongly. You talk about guys going into year two that have shown production and have shown some substance, you're going to see that people will trade significantly more for that. So I think this is kind of where third and fourth round for me is going to be, I'm just shooting my shot on guys that I do believe have upside and the ability to get me something. That will ultimately, you have to wait a little bit but probably trade you significantly more than whatever you're going to trade out with these picks, realistically on the clock. I agree. Well, that's where I'm going at 306 with just one of my guys and it's not just because he's the same first name and also has some cool glasses like I do, but Seth McCallan, how to Kentucky, running back and huge winner from Indianapolis, right 9.42, Razz, third best among running backs in this class, 123rd best all time. And I've been telling you guys,

1:25:45since I laid eyes on this kid in week one when I was sweating out that Toledo ticket to cover against UK, McGowan was someone just always popped for me. And like certainly an older prospect, right? Bounce around from Oklahoma, spent some time in jail for a couple of months there, four star recruit though coming out of high school then he lands with New Mexico in 2024 finds his footing. Second team all conference honors there goes to Lexington then where he really led Kentucky just as a whole offensively, right? 200, 725 rushing yards, 12 touchdowns, fifth best in the conference. And it's particularly impressive. Like to me, I always like to add context like, who were you working with? Who was your offense corner? Who was your quarterback? It was Big Zach Calzada who's bounced all around college. Football is absolutely garbage, freshman cutter, bully who he just got nice and I'll deal elsewhere, but I still think he's kind of cheeks too. So very shifty guy, very angry runner. Probably the best in a power run type of scheme. I would love to see him with the saints or somewhere like that in a Kalanmore system.

1:26:46Derek, you've compared him to Isaiah Pacheco. I've compared him to Rico Doudo, another former SEC guy that, I think he's just another strong North South runner. Not gonna be a guy who you want as your starter. He can be a spot starter for a week, but more of a change of pace guy that I love to get here at 306. Adam also a winner was someone you're taking here at 307 from the combine. Yeah, let's be transparent again. This pick was made after the combine. And it's good pick. Listen, I liked football, honestly. I'd watch him, I did like him. He was kind of someone I was thinking, all right, maybe I can get some really late shares. I'm thinking like fourth round kind of thing. I'm not saying that maybe you still can't, but what I will tell you is I think for the most part in a lot of savvy leagues that day is coming gone. He showed out at the combine, honestly. I mean, you look at his Rascore, it's perfect. You can't be a better relative athletic, you can't have a better relative athletic score than him. So to me, one thing again,

1:27:49I'm just gonna keep stressing the same thing, which is what I'm gonna be drafting in the third and the fourth round in this class. And I'm normally always doing is, what's the upside if something hits? What if the draft capital checks out, which we don't know yet, right? If these things fall in line, and I'm looking at all the players I'm considering drafting, I think you make the case, Jeff Goldwell has as high of a ceiling of anybody in this round three. Definitely not a surefire thing, but listen, he's got a lot of desirable traits and he's got home running and ability. I know that for sure. DeBro, you have someone at 308 who a bit of a loser coming out of Indianapolis, someone I was not expecting to test like a freak by any means, but certainly filled out that slot wide receiver echelon that we are kind of building him as. Yeah, I'll take a shot on Kevin Coleman Jr. at this point. I'm a big believer in the talent. I know he didn't test well. I mean, he ran a four or four, man. I'm not knocking him for a lot of the other testing and stuff like that. Him running a four or four at his size, I think is totally fine. I think his ability and secret sauce

1:28:53is I think he's an underrated route runner. I think in the NFL, is he probably gonna be slot combined considering his size probably, but he does have the route running chops, I think to play outside some. And if you're looking at a guy that could go round three, round four, the NFL draft, probably a round four guy. And he ends up turning into somebody like a Wondale Robinson. I would not be shocked at all because the talents there, also the analytics, like top 40 and receiving grade of the last two years, 17th and fifth in Miss Tacos Force. And that's not like a super sticky metric, but especially at his size, I do think it's notable because it's not like we're talking about him like a Lewis Bond or somebody else that's built like a damn bowling ball and you're like, oh, you get screens and of course you break Tacos because you're basically a running back. Like that's not Kevin Coleman Jr. So like for him to have that elusivity after the catch, I think is notable at especially at his size. Okay. And after 309, I'm gonna go ahead and take a shot on

1:29:57a really good receiving running back. And that's like where we're at. Like if I'm taking a shot at a running back, I want the ceiling outcomes that could come and score fantasy points. And that's what you're getting here with Desmond Rietta Pitt, started his collegiate career at Western Carolina, comes to Pittsburgh in 2024. 52 receptions, 579 yards. And the big issue, right? It's a size five, six, 174. This guy's tiny, but very much reminds me of Tariq Cohen. If you guys remember back in the day when Tariq Cohen kind of came on the scene and he is gonna have that uphill climb to stay healthy in the league, right? That was kind of what took Tariq Cohen after a couple strong RV two seasons, ends up getting out of the league because he suffers an ACL, can never really get back. And but I will say like both myself and the books seemingly thought this guy was in the conversation and run the fastest 40 time at the combine. I threw him out, I thought he was gonna be closer to 7-0-1. He came out at plus 115. He was the favorite with Clayborn. Then he ends up not running it. But yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna take a shot on a guy that if he falls into the right coaching staff,

1:30:58I think maybe they can utilize him as a day three pick. So Adam, where are you going here? I know you also have another running match to close out your picks at the 3-10. Yeah, I a different stylistically than doesn't read obviously. Yeah, yeah. Let me amass to me. He's, listen, this is a guy at this point. I'm going the approach of any running back on a 53. I think the thing about Moss is he has the, he's a two down guy, right? At least we haven't seen him as catching up side from him. But I do think he does show decisiveness as a runner. I don't think he's a crazy athlete, but I do think in the right system, you could see him be someone that's, you know, like an A, B, right, or one, two punch with someone. And I also think that the concerns, or part of the problem is gonna be, like he has not been able to stay on the field a lot of the time last couple of years. And there's definitely an injury concern. But if he was able to be stay healthy for a season, I think we have seen moments and upside that he's worth a pick in this range and definitely into the fourth round. So I like Levy on Moss. It's not like, you know, if you told me,

1:31:59he was not gonna make the top, you know, third, the first three rounds that like I'm shocked. But I think at this point for me, I'm definitely gonna pivot away from a lot of the receivers I don't really like past this point. And I'm gonna be shooting my shot on running back. So I think hopefully go to a good situation and find a way to get on the field. I'll allow Rico Dotto, right? It took some time. But eventually when he does get on, you start to see, okay, and I'll say like stylistically, he reminds me kind of a lot of tank bigsby. Not nearly as much of a Levy on Moss does. Not as much of a prospect and as slightly powdered, but the stylistic running comp for me is tank bigsby for him. I think it's a good one. And like whenever we saw Mike Elko have to start deploying Ruben Owens in this A&M offense after Moss got hurt the past two seasons, it really kind of took a downward trend where it was all on Marcel Reed's legs and arms, which is not really a place you usually wanna be. So Levy on Moss, he was certainly a difference maker at A&M. We'll see if he can be that in the NFL. And Derek, you have a player here that he's someone Debbie Managers, no very well.

1:33:01He was a very highly touted prospect coming out of high school. He's bounced around a little bit in college as most prospects do at this point. I feel like an RIP, I feel like I'm playing the same game that I did in yesterday year with this pick with incredibly talented college player. But is he slot confined? Does he have upside to play the outside? I feel like this could be Rendell Moore 2.0, but I'm willing to take the swing with Zachariah Branch here. The athleticism is real. The talent is, I mean, dude, he can go. Yeah, I mean, we saw at the combine the speed is real. It just comes down to is he a slot confined player? Is he, for all the things that we've kind of talked about other slot types on this show? It's like in the new NFL, that's a big worry. But there are spots in Branch's tape where he shows you and he offers you like some route running chops.

1:34:04Like where you'll see him dancing to cornerbacks blinds but you'll see him set up guys. You'll see some of these routes where it's like, yeah, sure, like, okay, is there also the bottom can fall out of this? Cause like 49% of his freaking targets were screens last year, absolutely. And again, that's where I'm talking about playing kind of the same exact game that I do with Ron Del Moore. It's like, I think maybe he has a ceiling for more, but if the NFL doesn't see that or they say, look, we're drafting you because we know what we're getting. You're gonna play the slot. You're gonna do our manufacturer stuff and that's who you're gonna be. That could absolutely happen. But that risk is all baked into it, drafting him in the freaking third round. Unlike Ron Del Moore where we were taking Ron Del Moore's early second round. Sometimes I've been seeing him go in the first round of rookie drafts. So yeah, I think it's a great value here. All right. To Ron Del Moore. Yeah, yeah, I've had a little talent to kid. But I think that's a good call, Debrona. For me, you did start to see a little more and later in his career, at least on film some, you know, development from him

1:35:07as well as the way in which he was being used. But for the most part, man, it's a lot of gimmicky touches, which just, listen, I've, I've, Ron Del Moore shot out to me drafting him as a lot in that early second. I've been burned by the gimmicky stuff a lot. So it could be Malachi Corley 2.0. That could happen. That absolutely could happen. But again, it's, it's just one of those things where now for me, it's, maybe it's the, you know, touch on the stove, so to speak. But I've done it enough to where now, it's almost like I purposely will avoid it if I find something that's in a similar range that I could get myself to go with. I've been burned too many times. And that's fair to, I guess to the worst splitting hairs here. That's the exact reason why I drafted Kevin Coleman Jr. ahead of Zacharii branch in this mock because Kevin Coleman shows you more route running chops and it wasn't at all this gimmicky habit usage with him. And that's why I think he deserves and he should go. Now, obviously, draft capital is going to tell us a whole lot with all of these kind of slight archetype guys.

1:36:08Like anybody from Antonio Williams to branch to Coleman Jr. If you go further down, like, you know, Anderson out of Ella's shoe, like all these guys, that they could go anywhere from the third to the freaking sixth round and none of that would surprise me. But if we're just talking about the film and the skill set, that's why I have Coleman above branch in my rankings and why I like him a little bit more. I agree with you. And I think I'm kind of curious to see what the listeners end up saying here to, like, hard to believe you brought up Seth that he was, you know, Debbie Darling, so to speak, it's hard to believe that you can't get some pushback that he's going 35th overall in a mock draft we're doing here is crazy because people were, you know, a few years ago talking about he's basically, you got to trade me a legitimate NFL player in a devy league or for a program. So pretty wild to see. I'll go in and round us out here, guys, at the 312 with Eli Heinenrich, running back wider receiver at a Navy. Just going to take a shot here on another receiving back because this is one of my favorite players

1:37:10coming out of the American. And like, I kept making the mistake of betting this season on the service academies and like, so I watched way too much Navy, man. I mean, I could tell you Blake Horvaz, ex-girlfriend, current girlfriend, date of birth and everything about this team, I feel like. And I didn't reach every time you watched the mint shipment. I mean, this guy just pops, man, totaled nearly 500 rushing yards this past season plus 51 receptions, 941 yards, in the best G5 conference in the country. And like, I want to put that in perspective though. Okay, I say 900 receiving yards. Navy only had less than 1700 total passing yards, right? Like Heinenrich was over accounted for 55.7% of their passing yards here. He can be used out wide, he's right out of the slot. He can be used at full back, tight end, running back. Like, this guy's kind of just a jackknife, right? He can be used a little bit of everything. So I'm not sure who takes him. I'm not sure how they deploy him, but like when we're just talking about athletic freaks, in a way who can play a little bit of everywhere, that's kind of what I want here.

1:38:11Plus, it had a really good comp on it as well, right? 8.5, 3, RAS. That was the fourth best for the running backs, which includes a 4.44 second 40 times. So for a guy who can also block with the best of them, we know you have to do that. If you're gonna be a Navy football player, Heinenrich is a guy I'm very interested in. So that does it for the mock draft and all the picks. I do want to get us out of here on just any top level analysis, either of you gentlemen can provide, Derek, any initial takeaways from you for doing the first one quarterback mock of the season? I do, I think, again, we've kind of talked about where the tears lie and stuff like that. I think draft capital is going to absolutely move a ton of these players around the chess board and really separate some guys, whether it's like moving up or down a tier, especially at the White receiver, this White receiver class. I think guys where they, you know, you could project draft capital from third to fifth round for a bunch of these different guys. So landing spots of draft capital is going to absolutely make or break a lot of these guys

1:39:12in that third and fourth tier. And I'll just close this out with, you know, before Adam gives his take. I think Eli Heinenrich could be exactly who everybody wants Adam Randall to be. Oh, okay. Okay, Adam, any thoughts for you on this exercise? For me, like, I just think it's funny how like little the change from superflex to one quarterback actually was because I'm like you, I play mostly in superflex dynasty compared to recent years where the classes are littered at quarterback, like, I'm really not touching in these quarterbacks aside from Ty Simpson, Fernando. And if you want to take a shot on Peyton or Taylor Green here, like in the third, fourth round, I'm okay with it, but like, it doesn't change that much for you. Any thoughts that you had from this? Yeah, well, I'll say this kind of confirms something I've been coming around to as far as like comparing this class. And I basically, in my personal estimation, like this class versus 22 or other years where you'll say, you know, the class has a down overall sediment about it

1:40:14and people don't like it. The thing that does make this class troublesome and why it becomes so, I think thin so quick is basically you talked about it from that standpoint. When you talk about Mendoza, it's basically Mendoza and then a wish cast or you know, you're really hopeful of where they're going to go with landing spot, getting on the field, who we even know, right? Should you think about quarterback, running back inside end? We basically have at those positions, like you have one really short thing and then it's tight end, maybe you could say too, it may be. But you have one guy that holds the entire class as cards and then it's like, I don't really know how much I care about the rest of them. That is the biggest thing. If you look at like 22, there was other, it was deeper at the running back position. So running back quarterback tight end, it's just very shallow. So I think that's why you see, and going back to some of the times where, you know, it's a price and running backs a little bit earlier when I'm picking between receivers or running backs in that range.

1:41:14So I just think that don't get it confused. There's still very good talent in this class. Why receiver is very good in this class, right? Don't get the class overall misconstrued, but that I think is kind of where this class hinges at the back end and what will keep, you know, the differences from this class being, you know, potentially as bad as people say it. I think the first round is tons of talent. I think the, you know, as far as the draft in the fantasy, right? First 12 picks, first 15 picks. You start getting that mid to late second round. You're gonna, you know, start probably drafting on conviction. I'm not saying you shouldn't, but it's gonna be holding really why this class is going to have such a negative, you know, feeling towards it. Absolutely agree with everything you outline out of. I think like RB two through RB six ish, and the third through like third and fourth tiers of wide receivers of this class are really gonna define this class. Does it buck the trend of like, or does it make everybody like have like egg on their face and this class is better than what people think?

1:42:16I think those two spots in this rookie class are what's going to make or break this class of, is it better than people talk about or is it absolutely terrible? 100% and one thing I will say too, this is why again, third and fourth round especially, like probably even second round in this class based on what the market right now saying and trading for. I think realistically, you all end up missing plenty, but there's going to be even if the class is bad, plenty of guys that pop in the second and the third and the fourth round. So, you know, kind of having your conviction studying up on these players and, you know, drafting them, you're going to hit some in a multitude of leagues which I play in a portfolio. So, I think that's one of those things where I'm continuing to dive into the film deeper and trying to get as much as I can on these players so that I'm taking my shots on guys I believe have that upside to hit. And if that does hit, it's gonna be worth significantly more than what you draft in those rounds. Always the best in the business right here folks on the fancy pros and I fell draft show.

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