The Wildly Deep 2027 QB Draft Class w/ Todd McShay. Plus, Actor Adam Scott!

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1:14The right recillus show presented by draft things. We have a great show for you today. McShay and I are going to talk about all of the college football quarterbacks the ones that matter the ones that are in the mox he's got a bunch of them and then we're going to do a little bit of quarterback draft for next year's draft. You'll figure it out and we got Adam Scott the star of the whisper man out on Netflix all of our episodes also on Netflix. We're going to talk about that movie which is really enjoyable. Already watch it comes out to August 28th and of course his career and we get a long life advice for you. Something big is coming on September 2nd. Draft Kings game day arrives with massive deals exclusive offers and an all day celebration built for sports fans. The countdown has begun all roads lead the game day. The Draft Kings sports app is now live in all 50 states. That means from Texas to California to Florida every fan is in on the excitement. One app every sport all 50 states Draft Kings game day is yours. Remember the day September 2nd Draft Kings game day is the kickoff of a new season a new era and the biggest day in sports history.

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3:16to early mock draft that had seven qb's going in the first round the McShea report and then of course I was listening to him and meant chop it up about the important players in college football this season on the McShea show part of a ringer and Spotify so good to see you man how are you I'm doing good brother how are you good all right good some cheat to kick up a little bit yeah good kick it up it's just good to see you um you know I'm relaxed long day with uh you know a couple different shows but this is a perfect way to end it with my guy bit of a bit of a you know IPO uh chart on the summer for me a lot of ups a lot of downs but we're just you know what even keeled ready to go right at right at the horizon as football is ready to start um you have seven I know you hate doing that April mock for next April and 27 it's just the rule all of you guys have to do it you have seven qb's going in the first round do you think that'll happen I mean probably not but absolutely could the way it's not seven normally normally

4:20I get overexcited the drafts over I'm in a good mood like we got to knock out this way to early mocked draft I'll throw like like you know and then I get and I start watching the tape in the summer I'm like oh wish I didn't you know um yeah he's not it I actually like more quarterbacks now after watching the top 14 of them I think I watched the summer all the way down to like my ava mature mesta maker Hoover like I we might have been 16 of them when we're all said and done I like more of them is legit like first second day guys and legit potential future NFL starting quarterbacks than I ever imagined it's it's an unbelievable group now with nearly all of them it's like I'm banking on all right this is their linoa sellers is he with the right guy with with briles it's self-carolina is arch going to take that next step in his development with cam colman and and after a rocky season that ended ended strong and you know is this mesta maker cat any good

5:24at this level at Oklahoma state and I'm expecting I'm expecting demon Williams to continue to elevate and so there's a lot of guys with an expectation that they're of growth right that I'm kind of counting on but I also see enough in in all of them to think that they they have it in them and and the circumstances for almost all of them are better than they were a year ago let's start with arch I'm sure you probably put some more time into it when you had some downtime if you had a bet I imagine the best odds even though I know don't taste in the conversation and sellers and we're gonna get to all of these guys but arch seems like hey if you had to pick one that's gonna go number one overall he's the safest bet is that fair it could be fair I've got him is the fifth ranked quarterback right now you have him fifth in this class okay fifth and like I was just at Manning passing Academy Cooper is one of the best human beings have ever been around I'm text with Archie all the time helped Archie the last 15 years put together the list for the

6:28Manning passing like I'm I they're like I don't want to oversell but like I like I get along with friends with the with the Manning's um I actually think I'm doing them fit not a favor it's certainly but like I think I think things were so far skewed coming in the last year and the expectations were so stupidly absurd with not only is he like potential number one overall draft pick he is for 2026 and he's the Heisman trophy front runner and he's and and Texas is gonna win a national championship and like we haven't even some start a couple games like spot duty essentially waiting for so like what are we doing because he's got Manning on the back of his jersey and by the way that Manning looks nothing like the uncles and how they played the quarterback position in fact it's kind of polar opposite like when we think of a Manning you think pocket passing cerebral ball might be a little wobbly but it gets there leading receivers smartest guy in the room demanding excellence

7:32and Arches like this really chill cat who people would absolutely like stand in front of a train for because he's because he has this conduct like real connection with people and he's and he yeah he has the size but he's built athletically he's strong in the pocket breaks tackles when he accelerates I going back and watching tape versus it kind of in the season I didn't realize how fast he is it's like first 10 yards fast it's like and he's got this playmaking instinct about him and he and he started to grab his balls a little bit at the end of the year like like I'm like this is my team and and like like over my dead body stuff and and finally like let's go and so you see that element of him but I'll be honest with you as a passer it starts with his eyes his feet don't follow sometimes he gets kind of this flustered element and you just kind of expect because he is a

8:32manning that he's going to be a lot more refined with where he's going with the ball the footwork the mechanics and all those stuff and he's just not yet does that mean he can't be no but but he he has to he's got to show a lot of progression there are a lot of throws you watch Ryan where it's like he can't miss that and why do you miss that and then try to study the why in the study and the why leads to different reasons and it's not all the same thing so there's work that's got to be done I know he's putting in the work and he certainly has a like a receiver who's just a special special talent in camcola coming in and camcola is even better than people think so that's going to be fun to watch but he's not there yet so I'm kind of putting them down there like go ahead climb that ladder prove that you that you can kind of be the the quarterback that everyone wants you to be but like let's let's back off this expectation that he's that he's the number one overall pick and he's the guy and this is Texas is here because I got more news for you I don't even know that

9:34that the mannings are looking at this is like the the swan song it texts there's a there's a long history of manning sticking around that extra year that people didn't think they're going to stick around until they're right and they feel like they're ready and I won't be surprised at all if he's in the 2028 draft okay I you know you hear it a lot but based on what you just told us about the relationship there too like we have to listen to you on that one because it's been flirted you know hey they might not even do the no one ever believes that but you're right the history and you say and I think gives it a little bit more there's a path to like I don't want to I want to make sure everyone understands like if he corrects some of those things if he starts to show a little bit more consistency nobody else in this class is 65232 pounds and runs kind of like he does and has that combination of things you know so there's a clear path for him to it's kind of like horses coming around the stretch like it's just about like does he does he catch the stride and have a safe

10:36path the path is there does he but it does he'd make those corrections and all of a sudden hits his stride and in this his his what could be his final year if he chooses for it to be if he does yes sure he he absolutely like there's no question in my mind he can be a great starting quarterback in the league and he's got a hugely you know bright future ahead of him it's just if we're talking about where these guys are now his tape is not as good as as people want it to be and it's not as bad as some people are hoping it will be you know it's somewhere in the middle yeah it's almost like three different parts of the season where you know everything's on the line that I have a state game and you've got two young quarterbacks where it felt like both play callers on both sides but like let's just try not to lose this game and text us of losing it on I'm sure over right and then the same as a state game gets kind of built up and I remember like the stats look good but I watch that game because I want to just keep watching them I was like this isn't very good and I think that first third of the season there may have been some nice box scores but

11:39it didn't look very good and then we kind of got off of them and he starts playing better and then we're all building to the Georgia thing and that's where the offensive line is just her Texas show up in as bad as it was in 25 it wasn't even close to his horrifying as it wasn't 24 when Georgia went at that Texas team and Carson Beck still try to lose that game for Georgia and that's when you know Arches like hey let's have him run around there instead of you or a serial little bit but as the season went on I think the thing that I like the most about him and if there was if we sat there and said let's put together the perfect quarterback and the foundational things that you'd want to have there's all sorts of stuff that's cool but mobility in the pocket and awareness of things collapsing around him which is something that he had to learn the hardway is that offensive line got worked which is you know a big reason why I'm like I want to pick Texas to win the whole thing but it has to be so much better than it was last year you could look at 25 is like a great learning experience for him because he had to learn how to get those off platform throws out and I thought a lot of that stuff was was important because you know we sit there we get excited about arm strength and all this shit and it's like okay you throw 35 40 times in the game like how

12:41many of those throws are actually clean ten like you're constantly kind of moving around and stuff so I think there's a combination with his athleticism and his smarts that it was I'm like okay well if he has that part of it then I feel way better about it than then maybe some of the other guys that I think can put up huge numbers and have a lot of tools stuff but it's like okay but what do you look like what does that mobility not out of the pocket but inside the pocket yeah and I there's there was so much encouraging about the way he endured what what happened in the beginning of the year that wasn't easy man like with all that hype and to go out and like literally like Mike Tyson comes out of the corner and knocks your ass out and you and you spin around and you look embarrassing like as you go down and fall to the fall of the mat that's what that Ohio State game was like like it was bad it was bad I didn't know where to go with the ball looked panicked

13:43feet weren't right it's like he forgot in some in some ways it looked like he kind of forgot how to play the position and then now everyone's like going back to high school it's like he didn't you know he didn't play high level high school and he got way over this he's been the most over hyped and ever I knew it I knew it I've been telling ever and so like yeah well he's a manning he knows how to compartmentalize all this he'll be fine but like he's a human being in these 21 years old or whatever you know what I mean like like that shit ain't easy it's not easy to read about how horrible you are and how we over hyped you've always been and and like so and then to know and then to start questioning your own reality right and to have your own stark like kind of what let's let's kind of redo let's get our eyes right here let's make sure we're doing this what we can expand the playbook when we need but like then you're starting to feel this of do does everyone else believe in me the way that they I thought that they would you know so to overcome all of that

14:46under that spotlight it's like a fascinating study in in like human confidence and and also like just how how you worked through something I think I want all of these guys to have adversity not because I want to see them do something bad because I think everyone that comes out in the league that has had some real adversity whether personal life game situation whatever it is it seems like those guys have a much higher chance of succeeding in the NFL than the ones who come through you know Mark Sanchez at line or like you think about how easy things you know like and I don't mean just single anyone out but I'm just saying like line it's not gonna be happy I know and I'd love that but I think I think it's like let's be honest compared to some of the adversity some other guys go through I think it's important to have some that adversity and hopefully we look back at 2025 and it's exactly that all right I need to go quicker I just figured we spend more time on archery no no I need like I'm the one that I follow a thought on this so who has the best tape then two guys jump

15:50out in terms of best tape like in one I think best tape I mean this isn't traits it's more like balls out on time accuracy touch eyes eyes working left right all that stuff Dante more and Darian Mensa they're the best two pure pocket passing quarterbacks coming back in college football like and Dante's wasn't always beautiful and there's some areas he's got to improve and there's some big moments where you'd like to see him be able to carry or at least limit damage there's also sometimes I think if you really go back and track some of his his mistakes or throws that you want back um not all of them but but there's a higher percentage than you like with like up the middle pressure feels boxed in and kind of doesn't make you know and so I don't say panic but a little like you know um and Mensa's certainly not perfect but Mensa Mensa was one of two or three like wow

16:50blown away by how much better than I thought just watching games on Saturday because I hadn't I hadn't sat here in this room dim the lights studied the tape and done it this way yet and I'm watching him and I kept asking myself like okay so what how big of a difference is there between he and that guy in Eugene because that ball is and that's out of time and leading that guy my gosh rewind it and it's like posit here and the receivers like hasn't him sniffed his break and he throws it 15 yards back corner end zone and it's like so and and and by the way this guy is more mobile and has a little more creativity than than that they does so I'm expecting a huge year from Dary and Mensa he's like next up right camorred Carson Beck next up and and with Malak Hightoni and some of the weapons they brought in you know that old line's gonna be be coached up well I could see Miami making a serious run this year and I think Mensa could become one of the big stories

17:53in college football early on so those would be the two or just watch like the pure passing tape more um you know look if you wanted to beat up on him you could because of that Indiana game it's funny too because I was looking at it this morning and and you forget that they actually tied it up at seven after that pick you know like all right everybody I did too I did too and I'm like okay seven seven and then they they drive it down seven seven here we go and it's like 14 plays 75 yards yeah yeah okay okay I forgot about this I definitely forgot about it I totally then you're like okay they scored again pretty quick with their offense so if I want to be and I want to be positive about it right like okay they got their doors blown in by the team that was was better than everybody else with Indiana but I like the Penn State game because there seems to be a smoothness a calmness with more that isn't bullshit you know like I think sometimes guys get out there game winner and they get in front they know exactly like how to handle it with him

18:57he plays like his demeanor matches his play and if you're telling me like on the best side of it which isn't just about technique and what he's seen out there that there's a coolness to him a calmness that that shows up numerous times throughout 25 with him it does and there's there's this like maturity about the way he handles things there's calmness as you say even like the ball he throws is like relaxed it's catchable I like you know certain guys just they make they make it hard receivers fight to get the Carson Beck was an example especially at Georgia like I felt receivers were always working to get the football I'm feeling great way to describe it you know oh I know exactly what you're talking you know what I mean right like it's kind of like oh it's grind man because you can't even like if it's a crossing route and you know your guide doesn't exactly have it to your numbers you can't run the route as crisp as you want to because you're kind of like playing catcher going like I'm drifting across I'm this but if I run this thing full speed it's

20:03going to be behind me it's going to be in front of me like I've got to give him a better window because I just know that it's not always going to be there I think that's perfectly set yeah and then and then you watch it's like it's like a level he is placed to be a receiver is and Eugene Oregon like the balls it comes down like a cushion for you and it's they got enough of him this year they should be able I mean there's so many options there and I know they felt like they ran out of dudes but I'm looking at their depth chart going are you kidding me well Evan Stewart's back I haven't heard much on him I'm hoping he's like he's going to be the guy he was before but anyway yeah so I just same thing with more too but go ahead yeah well obviously I mean more was sensational last year but he still was a true freshman so but let's put it this way the Raiders were midway through they're not midway like midway through the season looking at the potential haven't make a choice and getting kind of later in the season and and Dante more had made the decision he made which again speak to maturity like much easier draft class to be in with Mendoza because you don't go one you're you're gonna go two and and deciding like I'm not ready

21:09you know so but I just and and the Raiders were like split like they were they were really it was a tough call between those two so he's gonna go early and he's a he's a damn good player but there definitely some areas I want to see like okay you're back and and will Steins and Kentucky like this guy this is quarterback whisperer who fixed bone nicks which by the way in and of itself should get you a head coach and job what will Stein got from that Auburn quarterback to what he turned him into in two years at Oregon and now we're seeing the carryover like that was it that was a total like healing of hey look the Auburn bone nicks still messes me up talking about the Denver bone nicks which is totally unfair I can't I can't unsee some of that stuff still it probably fucked up my whole evaluation on if I'm being honest I saw too much at Auburn yeah I'm right there with you like and then Dylan Gabriel right we talked we talked to the NFL team into he's a third

22:10round draft pick I know and so but Dante and Dante in a year after didn't work with chip that freshman year has come kind of regroups it out a year but got he got he got him right to the point where he could have been the first overall pick had he decided to come out so how is there any effect what's that no I just was for anyone not falling along they might have thought ship with Eugene or something but we're talking about UCLA UCLA sorry yeah um anyway so that'll be an interesting to watch is is there any can we see that definitively that that will signs not there anymore okay Lunora sellers you cannot quit Lunora sellers you have you have been if you get this one right this is all time stuff because there's other people that just they and mench likes them more than I do what I didn't think anybody liked them more than you did because some people do not like him mench is putting him up in like Andrew Luck great he wants he's he's hoping a good year he can give him a 99 out of the hundred scale I've only given him one of those okay how about this I'm gonna

23:13I'm gonna just throw something at you here and this is not perfect so okay watching sellers with that team in 25 all right and this is like the old Josh Allen Iowa game thing I mean it's not the same thing because it's South Carolina and there's other NFL players all over the place but the beauty of Josh Allen and that Iowa game is that you realized how bad it was for him and when I watch with Lunora's and whatever the hell is going on with their offense and again I understand he has way better weapons better offensive line than anything I'll and had it Wyoming but you have these these drives where it feels like Lunora's is like the only one that's giving them any kind of chance at all and that he's it may not be pretty but he's surviving considering it feels like the offensive challenges that they have that that's the positive version of this because other people are looking at you thinking you and we'll throw a mention there too that you guys sound crazy that you keep falling in love with the physical gifts and it's just not clicking the way that you would expect for somebody who's projected to be a top 10 pick it's so much

24:16more than physical physical gifts and yes he's as fast as he is twitchy and he's like you could argue he and maybe demon Williams in in a class with just loaded with athleticism more so than we've ever seen before like a potential draft class with this kind of speed and athleticism a quarterback we I don't think we've ever seen before okay and yes he has a rifle arm the ball just snaps off of his hand and he can he makes throws from one hash to the other side line and just rips it the physical traits can be blinding but I like I've been through a couple rodeos with this man like I I know what's what's real and what isn't and what I I loved watching even last year when it was a mess in the offensive coordinators fired now the bringing in Kendall briles and his offense is always score 50 points wherever he is like so it's not just a projection of what he's what it's watching the development under horrible circumstances and watching him not consistently enough yet

25:17and there's some underneath throw he's just got to take some heat off the fastball and like relax that a little bit but that stuff's coachable too um but like some spectacular throws that are not just off platform and arm angles like dropback in rhythm to reel it then some anticipation throws like sometimes when a quarterback makes the throw where I'm like if I pause it in this moment I'm like fuck is he going with that ball you're like what and then all of a sudden you see the the arc and the receiver under like so I and then you hear about him the guy and the and he's quiet and he's reserving he's a manning passing academy two years ago and I swear he didn't come back because like he ain't never going to be a camp counselor or coach it's just not his thing but but guys respect the hell out of him and kind of that quiet lead by quieter lead by example so smart as a whip picks things up I think he's I think he could be special like really really special

26:24I really do I think this guy I don't think the world has any clue how talented he is I really don't you just want the whisper man honest talking about lunaura sellers if that I know we have to make that a breakout video we have to just for that one raising canes is turned in 30 this month to celebrate the milestone canes is hosting a 30th birthday pop up museum in bat roosh located directly behind the original restaurant the mothership Todd graze will be unveiling the museum on august 25th in honor of 30 years of canes the brand is also launching a commemorative 90s plush puppy available beginning august 26th featuring cane in her 90s best net proceeds benefit welfare organizations I just had canes the other day we filmed a commercial at my house and I was surrounded by chicken fingers there was kids running to the villages just wondering what is that smell and I was like it's me and then I just had everybody over and there was a sauce everywhere what a party I'm a cany-eye and if I'm feeling real aggressive I'll throw a couple side fingers in

27:26the mix raising canes chicken fingers one love CJ car I like them I like them the receivers back to okay now is it a non starter for a guy who can't give you anything in the run game a quarterback now for NFL teams no it's not a non starter but you better be as smart as CJ car and you better have the ability to hit spots the way that he does but it's certainly like it is different man I talking earlier today it's someone I it's it's remarkable it is like it would be like me stopping right now and for the next 15 years going to side and that I was going to be an NBA scout it's not totally dissimilar from what my first 12 or so years and and by the way playing the position pop Warner high school college not but like being around that position basically since I was like nine years old right to what it has been in the last let's call it 12 15 years and the transition

28:33from that position and and it's been awesome to watch but it it's certainly like it's not but then again you look around the league and even the mobile guys they're they're they're how much are they using their mobility like truly you know and I see some I see a pocket mobility with car and like the instincts that he has to move around and extend some plays that's that's functional enough like I think he has like I think above average like hanging tough sides stepping sliding I think he has that ability but he's just he's just not much of a runner you know like you're never going to design a run he's never going to kill you with it with a string multiple moves together but like the ball placement especially over the middle of the field down the seams those those throws he's so smart dude he is so smart he's he's the I would argue he's the like if you could if you could test or qualify I guess I'm clearly not smart if you if you could take a test and

29:42we could see the grade of it thank you sir if he would he would he would be the smartest he would be the among the smartest if not the smartest in this class like he is on yeah Lloyd cars grandfather he's been around balls whole life but the way he processes shit it's different it's just different so best processor yes if you could grade if you could everyone sat down and took a test now but I like this though like right now I'm just saying like okay best pure arm talent out of this fast best so you're saying C.J. is the best processor out everybody in this class based on the tape to this point yes and and I'll like just watch like being around him a little bit manning passing academy and just like hearing him talk through defensive coverages and and all that like and like leverages and seams and inverted safeties and and like it feels like he's kind of a step ahead of what the highest level college quarterback should be in terms of like the processing aspect of it

30:42we'll see I mean I I just I think plus you look at Notre Dame's and I'm not now we're talking about college football Notre Dame's schedule the runway he has the more emphasis it's gonna be put on like I would be shocked if we're not if he's not a Heisman finalist and like could very well be the when the Heisman this year you know okay that's good um now Adam to the list I know why you had and again you're way too early mock you had six quarterbacks going in the top 10 um saying now looking back at stuff from last year there's something you can sit there okay well look at all these dudes he's throwing to but the completion percentage which is not my it's actually probably gonna become one of my least favorite stats now the quarterbacks but this says something to me he had the number one QB rating of any quarterbacks statistically okay if they win that in the end of game he ends up maybe winning the Heisman by the way but he was fourth in yards

31:43per attempt so he's got a 78% okay 78% completion percentage but it's not just because he's thrown out to the flats and he's troubles and running back to the entire time he's got the fourth best yards per attempt I'm sure there's probably some depth of target stuff there that being his favor not his favor and when you look at like a C.J. you know he's at 67% completion with the same average yards per attempt so this was not saying just taking all the easy stuff and it felt like the way they ran that offense and because they were destroying teams on average after Texas I think the average score was 38 to 9 they had a layup kind of big 10 schedule after they had the text game I'm not knocking the buckeye schedule but it's just what happens is we know you can have like a year or all of a sudden it's like who the hell are they playing this year right but Ohio State at least plays people but they played slow like I've looked up some of that pay stuff it felt like hey we know we're gonna kill everybody so I think there's like this untapped version of him that's gonna be really fun this year because there were stretches last year I thought he was the best quarterback in

32:43college ball yeah yeah tell me I'm crazy if you think I'm totally off on it but go ahead the highest possible N. comp would be Drew breeze I don't know that he's gonna be that but I don't know that we've seen the most of saying and when I say the most I want to see a little bit more aggressive like there were games I'm trying to think there was a Penn State there were a couple games where he was he was taking shots down the field and you could see like I want to listen he's a red shirt freshman last year first year starter he got the keys to this Lamborghini and it's like please don't crash it so like maybe it feels like yeah you know what I mean so well I'm holding out forcing any ball all season long when you're winning by 30 points for 11 straight games agree agree agree agree to agree I just I I want to see a little bit more mobility

33:47and and and be forced into some situations where because I know we can I know he's a little bit more mobile than than people want to give him credit I know he's got a little bit more creativity and so I want to see that become more natural and I think in year two we're going to see that from it's here's the problem you get Dante Moore who would just slice you to death like a surgeon you got Lenora seller who's a freak show physically you got CJ Carr who I just told you all about him Sam Levit is the outside of Lenora sellers might be the most dynamic explosive quarterback in this class and Sam Levit and Lane Kiffin are going to be on a rocket ship this year and I can't wait two years ago this is I mean Sam was unbelievable that yeah I'm also it's very Jackson Dardish I'm like hey this is fun as hell are you going to be around November 7th even if they're not like what they're gonna what I think that they're going to do this year in LSU offensively with with Kiffin

34:51and Levit I don't think anyone has an idea of how great it can be we'll see if it happens but I it could Sam Levit is so fucking explosive like and his arm is so loose in the way he rips it and it's like all these guys and everyone in them every walk of life you're you're greatest strengths my greatest strengths are fatal flaws no question about it can but Kiffin's going to get him on schedule get his eyes where they need to go like my homes was like but his mechanics were a disaster and then he got a year without a Smith he got a year with Andy Reed like I'm telling like this this guys got a she he's got a chance to be the number one overall pick so does arch so does Dante so does Lenora so does CJ and so when I look at saying the reason I'm saying all of this is that I don't think Julian saying ever has a chance to be the number one overall pick I think I think if he maxes this thing out he's a top 15 pick something like that I think I could see him like being mid to late first round when it'd been probably not

35:54after this year but after the next year but you can never take away first of all he's absolutely sensational college player and second of all like in the right system he throws it better than two I think in the right system he can have success in the league it's just it's got to come together more for him than it does maybe some of these other cats so to repeat you think five guys or six guys are in play to be the number one pick I think Dante more is the odds on favorite right now I think arch could so easily get there but I've got him below a few other guys I think Lenora sellers if it comes together and he like I think Lenora sellers like should be considered like neck and neck more so honestly based off of what they are right now more so one a one b with Dante more than my mind than than archmanning even though that's the narrative cj carcane absolutely push to be the number one overall pick if he elevates his game sam levit like I know I'm not saying he will

36:54be but I'm telling you he could wind up being the best quarterback from this class and so if he's not the number I think you can easily be a top 10 pick maybe top five and then there's a couple other guys that are they're absolutely like Nico E. Maliava for all the jokes and the Tennessee stuff and the money and how that's involvement and all the stuff we want to throw out that young man I saw a competitiveness about him last year when things just were a disaster that really like I was like huh maybe the national deal on on Nico's different than than the real deal even though there yeah there's some noise and all that this guy like chips down ass handed to him punched in the mouth over and over again just bounce back make throws really really good on in breakers it's intermediate like hang in the pocket and then when he takes off and runs he's a he's a nightmare

37:56and I'll tell you the other guy demon Williams Washington I was expecting I'm going to do this report he's a great athlete it's like a slot receiver a quarterback kind of no kind of kind of got to feel for it's probably going to get some limitations maybe you could develop him and I'm watching I'm like shit he can make a bunch of these throws too he's actually a really good quarterback not just athlete that's why this class is just it's wild to me and I haven't even mentioned my ava USC who's gonna have an awesome year I think worst case he's a second-round pick Mitch John Matier and what he can be changing his motion thumbback you know thumbback functional again it's it's gonna be an awesome year okay having said all that I'm gonna spring this on you seven picks each we're gonna do 14 quarterbacks just go back and forth and the exercise here is like how many you have first rounders how many actually get drafted because the fascinating thing I think about any of this stuff is a year out like you go back a year ago it's allor it's no smire it's club nick yeah no three are those three are pretty fucking good and training camp right

39:00now huh yes they are yes they are but it's but I'm not shitting on you guys like this is not I get it I get you get the point and I I've said this like if I wanted to argue hating NBA drafts better than the NFL but there is no scenario where you would have three projected lottery picks go in the second round of an NBA draft it's because it's the sport it's not because this group sucks at it this other group I have some issues with the lack of development the quarterbacks I don't like when somebody gets taken in the fourth round never gets to play in a game sits on a roster for two years and then just gets replaced by the next third or fourth rounder you're like well what was the point of ever doing this now you had him in camp you could see him throw you're like this guy is in the guy but there is no depth there is no development but on the drafting part the mock stuff that you guys are asked to do with maybe 10 to 20 games on these guys in most cases it's like hey I have the 12 games from last year that I feel really good about maybe a bowl game who knows it's just a lot to ask the exercise and that's why you have that variance I don't think it's because everybody that runs an NFL team is stupid my reign is over there so I've got your back on that by the way

40:02speaking of throwing it when you were talking about your playing days yet you ever let the bowl whip crack anymore I've gotten 11 year old Sunday plays quarterback I'm an M2 QB every Saturday yeah it's it's a loop I've changed my delivery a little bit with watching you guys I like the fuck it didn't no one ever taught us that it was just like pick up a ball that you know I threw a ball of you and stand for Steven Columbus once and it was just met with absolute horror and I thought I had a hose you guys were like oh my god loop much and I'm throwing like dark and it's just absolute arms right now like you and Tibo it's the same like I can't throw like any Quinn it's like you can't be jacked that's why I can't wait for water back did you read day Wilson's piece on ESPN and the history of the jack quarterback I think it's the best college football content of August it's fucking awesome oh yeah check it out yeah I'll send it to you after this it's really all right are you ready here's the plan and by the way shout out to

41:06bench jayden ball love I am all for it yes let me know what size jersey he would jayden ball needs to be talked about I'm I can't believe your first text of the 2025 college football season on a Saturday I think was was ball related a lot of my content this year's gonna be ball related all right uh you can go first Todd so the exercise Todd vs Ryan let's see we'll come up with the scoring system real transparency we'll probably never revisit this again but we'll just I think this would be fun in case we didn't even see every minute I know I've been screwed he clipped this off for next April perfect done you're gonna use AI you can go first so you want to basically put together the best composite group of your seven that you think is gonna go higher than mine pretty stand wait so I'm picking seven quarterbacks right now does not I know we're gonna go then I'm gonna go yeah you don't get the first seven picks I get picked eight through four five I'll take on day more I'll go chalk okay I'll go arch but based on your intel I might have

42:12been able to get them a little bit later I just think the odds are I can't do it's okay I'm gonna go CJ then I'll go love it put my money where my mouth is which is one quarterback we didn't talk about who's fucking awesome too but go ahead I hope you don't figure out who it is right in this moment I just give you a clue I'm gonna take a mess to make a right now then oh gosh take him are you kidding me did you see the rice throw you in men's watch the rice I've been doing shows for like five hours today yeah I've had this bug it's been like following me around loves the content yeah that messed to make her 52 year bomb against rice traffic around his legs and he's still leading his receiver I'm just gonna put next to messed to make her name rice throw and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this in my desk if you're for when we revisit

43:16okay rice throw okay um so I've got Dante and sellers and Sam Levit you've got CJ car arch and messed to make her I'm taking Trinidad Shameless is the guy we didn't talk about who I've got ranked six just behind arch okay I will then so if arch CJ messed to make her off the board man I gotta I gotta tell you like when I watch him I don't feel like it looks as good and I can't watch with such an astute eye as yourself but I'll take I'll take Mensa now he's what nothing I just I I could do this all day long yeah why you think you run a circles around me right now no I know not even that like why do I I'm enjoying this more than anything I've done today messed to make her may have been a reach but you got to be you're gonna be daring sometimes and you haven't seen the rice throw so I'll proud of you me it's August I'm watching

44:21messed to make her throws I'm proud of you I'm proud of you but I've never questioned your your want to so who did you take I was I was just laughing at the Sun oh yeah Mets I love that um I'm taking E.M. Ali Yava whoa not even on my board yep okay this is where the messed to make her thing may come back around give me saying okay I like that this is where I get an edge on you find out this is where all the hours show up this is yeah this is this is like choosing choosing tape over beach um I'm going to mom your mom Williams mom Williams all right I go my ava okay I get an interesting one for you I'm taking sores B I don't blame you you you sold me hard on him when we got off the phone that day because I was

45:24like why are we asking but I just don't know what you do with it out of your playing a football would be one thing if you're CJ car or saying or or or or more or even like sellers like it's another one your whole draft stock was contingent on you playing and getting more like developing the gods are give me Josh Hoover so no mature no well I was just I was going through my I know you thought I would take mature I did yeah I look I respect the hell out of them yeah me too I think the first I got someone on the record it is it for me it's disrespectful materials on this board that that messed a maker and and Hoover were taken before him I just want to I want that for the records so you're taking material right now I thought we had seven each right I get more seller don't

46:25take more linoar sellers I get Santa love it turn it out shameless make William I'll yava to mom Williams Brendan sores being in with my eighth and final pick I'm taking John Matier okay great do you have another one yeah I'm gonna take Drake Lindsay okay I just wanted to take him I knew it I love it CJ Bailey still available CJ Bailey is gonna have a monster year but I think he could have another year after this fading crack from TCU I'm hearing really good reports out of there I had him written down I had him in Jennings has been hanging around ball for a long time SMU yeah this is fun this was great thanks for having some time for us today check out the mishay show and read the mishay report with our guide top we'll talk to you again soon all right brother see you soon this segment is brought to you by draft kings they asked me to put

47:25together some overrunners on the season so I've got two college I've got two pro for you all right let's start with everyone's favorite terrible schedule we don't know if they're gonna be any good Penn State Nettney Lions who play Marshall Temple and Buffalo out of conference and they play three ranked big 10 teams but they don't play Indiana they don't play Ohio State they don't play Oregon so they get SC Michigan and Washington so the two road games there that matter all season longer at Michigan at Washington so people are actually looking at it look I brought up a stammer seed like do you want them to make the playoffs because this is the conference expansion stuff that drives me absolutely crazy that two teams could be the same conference and have two completely different experiences by the way look at Ohio State schedule on top of that they're also playing Texas out of conference lately the last year which Penn State doesn't like to do stuff like that so the total right now is nine and a half wins that's a massive number for team and again get rid of a lot of the team and we all expect that man Campbell's gonna do a terrific job here but I don't know if this team's gonna be any good but everybody's projecting a ton of wins

48:27I'm gonna go minus 142 under nine and a half wins for them I'm gonna stay in the big 10 and look at Indiana it feels weird to think of Indiana following up maybe one of the most remarkable certainly unexpected seasons in the history of college football I thought they were frauds in 24 and in 25 they were basically flawless just putting the hammer down on really good teams and running through the schedule and so I can get into the schedule stuff here a little bit Ohio State's gonna be at home they've got USC at home so there's only one ranked game on the road I just think they're that good again I love Hoover I liked Hoover a lot better right now than I did Mendoza coming into last year even though McShay give us a heads up on Mendoza watching the Cal tape so when I think about the line play and really like year three of a guy being in town for a program is kind of when this thing supposed to be get cranked up I mean you want to talk about ahead of schedule this is one of the most ahead of schedule turnarounds we've ever seen in the history of the sport I think they win the big 10 again this year so I'm going Indiana over 10 and a half minus 104 in the NFL you got two teams

49:31for you the Pats and the Bears the Pats had an historic easy schedule last year they made it all the way to the Super Bowl I get it I'm going under 10 and a half wins minus 140 it is I'd say the fifth or sixth hardest schedule go through it there's not a lot of time off and if it's one week opponent it's right into somebody else who maybe has a chance to play in their own conference championship game and again I'm spreading that out outside of Buffalo I feel like the AFC has and I know some people at Baltimore there the odds have them forth but that AFC feels like I could see eight or nine different stories out of this conference and again I tear all those teams behind Buffalo so I'm going to go under 10 and a half New England might be better the roster should be more talented kind of not an Indian a parallel but again way ahead of schedule when you think about all that roster turnover from the Pats so I'm going to go under 10 and a half they might be the better team the hardest schedule in the NFL by all accounts the Chicago Bears the numbers nine and a half

50:31I think the Bears will be better I they may have a worse record so I'm going to go under minus 125 so three unders for you the under guy when everybody else is taking over is check out the latest on draft Kings the whisper man on Netflix out this week and Adam Scott the star joins us here I really enjoyed this little silence of the lambs little additional flavor my alarm went off in my home and one of the big scenes at the end those upstairs watching and it sounded like somebody's breaking into my basement the exact yeah so I added a lot of extra tension but that's what I loved about this movie it kind of just starts and never really stops what got you into the project how did that process start for you um it the first thing that happened was I saw James Ashcroft's first film coming home in the dark a few years ago just randomly on Netflix and I was blown away by it I and I just wanted to talk to someone who knew how it was made and asked

51:38my agent if I could talk to this guy James Ashcroft and so I just got to zoom with them not to like see about a job or anything I just wanted to talk to him because I thought it was an extraordinary movie terrified me and I thought it was audacious and just I hadn't seen anything like it so I kind of knew James just from that and coincidentally then two or three years later this came up and Robert De Niro is one of my heroes obviously I'm an actor I'm Robert De Niro is going to be my hero and so I you know my I wanted to do it and then saw James was directing it and was like oh my god and somehow finagled them into hiring me well they made a great choice did you read the book did you feel like you had to do that I did yeah as soon as I got the job I read the book yeah okay I'm glad you brought up De Niro before I did because I'm like what's the De Niro question right

52:39because you're going I know this is what your job is but is there a moment in being in a scene with him that you'll remember forever all of it I don't think I'll ever forget any of it I um I never got used to it loved working with him and really you know watching him work so hard and also watching him sort of do a take and think about it and be like can I get one more I'm just I'm I don't know I want to try and real watching him and realizing oh my god this guy is still figuring it out he's still trying to wrap his mind around this mysterious thing that we do that I feel like I'm still not totally get it's and I and I realize it never ends you're always searching and always trying to get better always growing here's Robert fucking De Niro and he's

53:42still like god I don't yeah I don't know let's try yeah yeah it was a bit of a watershed moment for me and really uh inspiring both just uh to see that and just to know that you know you can you can accomplish everything that somebody like like he's accomplished and still be searching and still be uh trying to improve and and figure it out when I love about the dynamics between the two of you is that a lot of the back stories held back you know we're not just gifted it all in the first 10 minutes and so even though the movie moves I like that the reveals pay off more as you're like oh this is the other layer to it and you know I imagine you're like all right I want to match the moment here because it's De Niro but then he's so intense but he's understated intense here does that does that make it a little bit more challenging we're like hey I have to I don't have to match his energy I kind of just have to match like where he's at right now because he was never like a super emotional person in this like he could be in other roles yeah he um

54:46I think that's it was when we started doing uh forget which scene was first I think it was the one and the diner but seeing that he was approaching it in this really amazing like you said understated way it really fit like a puzzle piece into what's so infuriating about this guy for this for his son who's looking for some sort of an answer and here he is you know I think that one of the strengths of the movie is is that we're not sitting there talking about our feelings and like you said telling our whole backstory and dialogue and all of that it's all behavior and watching De Niro's behavior tells you so much about him and so much about probably what happens here

55:54where the schism occurred and uh what broke and so it immediately was falling into place for me just why this occurred how much does being a father help you play this role I mean tremendously for me um you know I think that it's inevitable that you're gonna go to your own personal experience playing a role like this where you lose your lose your son lose your kid it's every parent's worst nightmare I mean it's it is the only uh ultimate nightmare I think for any parent and and so uh you know and you know kind of prepping for the role reading and watching people who have experienced this awful awful thing the second it happens

56:56your life ends and this is what everything is about until you find your find your kid this is it just completely takes over you don't sleep or eat or anything this is it your career arc you know I wonder everybody you know look it's gonna sound like um I'm just complimenting you here because you gave us some time in the pub but I truly believe this like it feels like everybody likes you and it's like hey he can do this oh no he can also do this was there a moment where it went from like funny side guy to the pivot of no this guy can carry something on his own would there a part of your career you felt like okay this is actually like there's more on the table for me now um it's funny because it's a little bit of frog and boiling water because it took me a long time to sort of find my way I um it was it was never an overnight kind of thing with me it was gradual and I'm really thankful for that I feel like if I

57:58I got thrown in the deep end at one time or another um and I wasn't ready it would have cost me and I and I maybe wouldn't wouldn't still have a career I'm not sure but I think that certainly by the time severance came along um it it it helped sort of uh show that I could maybe be the person out in front um carrying something the severance product I I love big swings you know but I'm never even watching the pilot I remember hearing about it you know it's like buddies of mine because I live in Los Angeles and I like do you hear about the show that still is doing so like Adam's doing it and then you watch the pilot and you go oh my god like I love the then you're like how how do you finish this I know you started filming season three um give me your I guess the first question is your first impression and how blown away you probably were

58:59going like what are we doing here like when we started right yeah I mean when I first read this script I knew it was really special Dan Erickson had written something really special um and they really really like you said it really big swing and it was either gonna work incredibly well or it was going to be a joke like that's what big swings are you take that risk and we all took that risk together and Ben was really conceiving of this tone and this designed world and Dan had written this legend of this company and so it was one really really big swing and uh and we loved it and loved making it and then loved it when Ben and cut it together but really didn't know if it was gonna work or if people were gonna react how people were gonna react until it was out in the world because you never know you never know

1:00:00um no matter how much you love something it may just be a blip and disappear or everyone points at it and laughs or people connect with it and love it you just have no idea um so we're really lucky that people did connect with it and people do like it but you have no control over that that's what that's one of the big things I learned how often are you confused about where it's going? I'm not I have a good sense of of where it's going for sure but I'm also able to kind of watch it develop and watch it get conceived and written and all of that so um it's it's it's it's a lot of people thinking really really hard about it to make sure uh it's airtight and going in the right direction so I was bringing up the the career arc part of

1:01:02it and kind of that pivot um how much I don't know like if you're a real planner I know some people like with agents to be like eight and five years the ten years and you need to get past this person and you're you know all these different things how has your career gone in comparison to maybe how you envisioned it when you first got started? um I was never someone that really planned to like that because I never knew what was going to happen I when I started I was doing background work and then I graduated from that to two line guest spots on tv shows up to guest star roles where you were part of a real storyline and then eventually up to recurring roles and then series regular roles it took me a long time so to say like in six years I'd like to surpass ski to all rich and be I just had no basis for saying any of that um I didn't uh I was just kind of

1:02:11going step by step truly and so um now it's it's a bit different but I still sort of just kind of go project by project although one good thing about where I'm at now is I can start planning a little bit I can you know my wife and I have a company and we produce stuff and so we can set set stuff up or get stuff going to you know hopefully we can get to this in a couple years um can do this show at a certain point and and so we're kind of laying stuff out for the future a little bit now uh more than I ever really had before I was talking about step brothers and my friends the other day and we were like you know what the real test of something is is if you're still laughing is hard as you were when you first saw it 10 plus years later you know and you're so good at that you're like almost going wait is Adam Scott just a dick in real life like he's nailing this why do you think are

1:03:14when you're a part of something like that maybe it's the better way to ask when you're a part of something like that do you do you have moments where you like this feels like it's gonna hold up timeless is a lot but you know for sure and and that was one where where I thought if while we were making it I was like if I wasn't a part of this this is a movie I would watch 25 times this is one of those comedies that I would watch over and over again and just assuming it was all gonna work and I think it does but while we're because it was Adam McCay and Will and John Riley and they had just come off Taladega nights and and and Ankerman obviously and so I just felt like this is gonna be amazing and I'm so lucky to be here this is crazy I couldn't believe I was there um so it's just a matter of keeping my head above water and not screwing it up because it was queer that these guys were making something really weird and really special

1:04:16do you feel like there's a movement away from comedies and again this isn't like the 80s and stuff that you and I because we're almost the same age like you grow up with and we probably name the five movies you're like I've watched trading places I've watched catty shack a million times you know and then there's kind of that late 90s early 2000s and now it feels like I don't know if these movies just are a priority obviously the business has challenged a bunch of different ways but do you feel that that it's like yeah there's just not at least timeless comedies being made yeah it's a real bummer I just watched Gail Dottry and the celebrity sex pass the other night and it is have you seen it yet no no it is so fucking funny it is so funny there's like nine different points where I was rewinding and watching bits over again it is so funny and I know it had a quick theatrical run maybe it's still playing in some places but I want that I was like I want a movie like this every three weeks like there was a time when we were getting all these big comedies and

1:05:24and yeah I I hope we're at a point let naked gun a couple of years ago it did really well and so it seemed like maybe that it was it was going to be a resurgence of comedies and I hope there are I hope people keep making them but Gail Dottry and the celebrity sex pass I think is is a really good sign that comedy is alive and well and so I hope I hope we keep making them yeah look we're all just massive fans of the work and I really enjoyed it the whisper man it is out August 28th on Netflix and Adam and an amazing cast put together great performance yeah thanks man thanks of the time today yeah thank you netflix is expanding its NFL coverage in 2026 from week one to the first ever Thanksgiving Eve matchup in two Christmas day games and a playoff game in January week one will feature the leagues first ever regular season game in Australia on September 10th between divisional rivals the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers we've got then on Thanksgiving

1:06:26November 25th Packers at Rams then two Christmas day games as we said Packers at Bears one eastern followed by bills at Broncos at 4 30 Eastern and then week 18 with the playoff stakes on the line catch the final game of the regular season on Netflix what I love about this line up is one look I'm picking the Rams win the whole thing again that's not all that rare but we're going to have a little test there to see if that Niners Rams gap exists because as much as I always kind of default to trusting the 49ers I think there's a significant gap and far more questions with that Niners roster probably the secondary all right then we're right into a matchup against the Packers who again I always kind of expect the Packers to kind of figure things out but these are like early tests depending on how healthy all of these teams are bring it back to week one the Niners we know it's probably the healthiest they're going to be all season but real tests in the NFC to see if everyone else these other contenders can match up with the ramps can do specifically that defensive line for LA and then finally you've got Packers bears rematch of the playoff shootout incredible game

1:07:28and also just a reminder of like the Packers and how bad that was that was their fifth straight loss with the four coming the regular season and builds at Broncos where ended up being a game Alan loses starts to feel a little bit more playoff criticism than he probably ever had before but if somebody told me right now Denver Buffalo that's my AFC title game I would I'd have a hard talent telling them that they were wrong so we're maybe getting a preview of that on Netflix watch week one of the NFL on Netflix starting with the Los Angeles Rams versus the San Francisco 49ers live only on Netflix Thursday September 10th at 8.35 pm Eastern 5.35 pm Pacific you want details? I drive a Ferrari 355 cabriolay what's up? I have a ridiculous house in the south fork I have every toy you can possibly imagine and best of all kids I am liquid so now you know what's possible let me tell you what's required. Love advice, love advice with our guy Kyle and of course

1:08:32sorority look at that just say we our guy Kyle and Kyle has a nice little smile on his face makes it made just made his day a simple man in the best way possible nailed it all right oh yeah don't take you guys ever envy simplicity simplicity yeah just in what context I'm sure I know bunch I do yeah wouldn't we exactly. Morning less aspiring to be less uh yeah definitely definitely yeah I would say I would say both seem like they're not exactly the same thing but keep going no like you know this isn't like this is gonna come off wrong but like you know the people that are like hey isn't it just easier to be stupid because then you have to think about things that like I think that other people think about you know like like you're just kind of oblivious to stuff in your life is probably happier you know that's that's kind of how I feel about like being on social media I'm like man if I didn't work in this industry like fuck this like I'm out like I would be so much more pumped about life I'd be off social media I would know about any bullshit because I'll head up my

1:09:34group shout my buddies but hey you guys see this and they're like no I'm like good for you I know good for you wait your group check it's older they'll start sitting away now like my guys are a month away from sending me the techno Viking clip like have you seen this maybe we get it from my group next year because if I show them anything day of like what what happened like is this a deal so maybe that'll be a topic you should have some sort of philosopher on somebody I sort of wish the crown jewel wasn't in New York state I'm like man I wish the place that I love so much was in like Missouri and like you know everything was cheap like we'd have a house and we like you know cigarettes are five bucks and there's no state tax it's like why is the place that I need to be in my bones got to be in New York state because this is something like a guy has been watching house under too much like should I move the wake up is wake up actually sick I mean even my brother is in Buffalo and it's just like they got a they got like a pretty sick house for like under 200

1:10:35and it's just like man why is why don't I love Buffalo why why couldn't it be that easy but uh maybe maybe that's sort of what you're saying a little bit I don't know states with no state income tax Alaska Florida Nevada New Hampshire for your guy South Dakota I wish there was a pro franchise in South Dakota then we can have other guys can play well deadwood and those they tax Tennessee Texas Washington and good ol Wyoming according to this list so Missouri might now work out I just I just threw out Missouri I don't know I figured you do well in Missouri thanks you in small man yeah you go small man could show you the ropes big city Shelley big city she'll love that homeless one headed out no one rides harder for their city to than her man yeah I think we saw it in person Kroki just thought he was taking it a little super bowl party and

1:11:37it's like nope here comes Hurricane Michelle yep she's not gonna like any of these nicknames nope she's not it's all right gonna have a hard time to let my sense after the fact yeah I don't know I was thinking about that the other day we kind of awesome to not try yeah I think about it a lot for a little while not like a bad way not a negative way but like what if you just said yeah I don't care I don't care about any of this stuff anymore yeah you're doing the whole like what is it uh you can't be disappointed if you don't have expectations right you know yeah think about all the extra cash I'd have if I wasn't doing an IRA I think about that all the time like I totally I don't know what that's the conclusion I don't think that's what I think I think you know keep doing that Kyle you're of course I know you're fine with that one these are the shower thoughts it's like man wonder how much that would have five dollar cigarettes god this IRA sucks yeah I think what like I think about that I've got you know one of my buddies is he's he's he's the dink you don't do income no kid situation and you're like you know they're just jet set in the cross the

1:12:39globe and you're like man that'd be cool but then I'm like now man that actually that wouldn't be for me but there are times when you're like yeah that part of it looks really cool yeah I think that's the big tease of all of it so you create these scenarios in your head you're like I know that I can't like I didn't have anything to do last night and it was driving me create I'd finish this project and I just finished it at like five and then I went to go read this book and then I came back and I was just sitting around and I was like I don't have I'd already prepped a show and I went yeah you're probably never gonna be like that all right so there you go well thoughts but yeah maybe get on we've thought about some place it a little bit yeah maybe we get Kyle on South Dakota Zillow I bet you yeah I will say I'm not a lot of time to our money now that I bet well yeah I do except for remember a couple years ago I told you guys I was really bummed out that I wasn't invited to weddings it turns out everyone was just like holding back and now I'm invited to all these weddings and they're really like some of them are have attached bachelor parties

1:13:40and like these weddings it's like Dominican Republic Italy Columbia I mean these people have no shame why can't we just go to New Jersey I know that's where you're from like I don't understand so I want you to say no careful what you wish for is is really yeah I don't think so though I mean not you not you're a tier one invite but careful what you were do do that though it's like maybe we can fin this out a little bit yeah maybe the every one is that way I've really been with Guam this time of year no actually make sure you get your vaccinations I passed the most like most of the wedding part of my life that you know my friends get married yet you had a now I'm in like the we have I think four of the five weekends in September we got a we got a kids birthday party first birthday party the big one yeah and I'm like oh boy okay all right tough scene yeah I was gonna say some New Jersey vendors there but I think I missed the window there now maybe after a New Year's the breakup makeup sex I don't know okay the reason we're

1:14:42stalling here is because we have so much extra time in front of another taping so we had some room to explore the space here all right so let's run through someone called the cops in my two-year-old five eleven one seventy thirty four years old player comp Jason Caponeau good and it's just in call tonight from the nice lady who lives across the street she said that yesterday while my wife and I were at work the police showed up at her house because they received a call about a crying baby for context our son let's call him Dave yeah because you could be listening um a two-year-old Dave Dave seems like a such a weird name for a two-year-old just reading that sentence yes yeah you got to be David till at least like you know six I think has anyone ever introduced their one or two year old like I was Dave Bob's here doesn't make any sense yeah I hope someone who has a day of it starts doing it Bob's on hard food now good for him guy it's my two-year-old guy Bob's off to formula yeah it's taking a big step that should come back though you know like is now everyone's

1:15:45until like you know Braden Jaden Kaden whatever and like adult Braden Jaden Kaden's are going to be weird you know that's almost weirder than baby Bob it's great point really interesting on this episode today yeah we're off to work odd start on buys of course but Dave's a very happy and overall great kit my wife and I are both loving the journey we both love we both work and have a nanny who has stayed in our place during the day with our son full times since he was about six months old our house is in a neighborhood a couple miles outside of downtown think old homes young families but also plenty of older folks as well we're also only a block off the main road with restaurants a grocery store apartment buildings so there's foot traffic going by our house sometimes I share all this because we don't know who called the police our neighbor talked to them and shared her frustration at their arrival because news flash two-year-olds cry sometimes the neighbor talked to the police because she was she saw them knocking on our door no one answer the police either didn't have a name for who called in or chose not to disclose it to our neighbor

1:16:49who knows based on when this was said to have happened our nanny was either out with her son on a morning outing or upstairs getting him ready for a nap we immediately shared this with each of our next door neighbors one family of two young kids and one couple without kids and asked if they've ever noticed anything concerning going on while we're at work both said no obviously our top priorities Dave safety it says our sons but I just wanted to say it again oh yeah but we think it's highly unlikely this is something bigger here we're home pretty often to have a great relationship with our nanny how far should I go to try and uncover who may have called asking more people on my street the houses who share a backyard fence with us that I don't know and have never talked to or just accept it may be the person who called which is someone passing by who doesn't understand that baby's cry sometimes also how would you suggest notifying our nanny of what happened acknowledging the severity of the situation while also not coming across so accusatory that it could damage a very important relationship unfortunately you're not going to get any paperwork from this because there's no court usually find out who called who you know one steering but you're not

1:17:53going that far so you're not you're not going to find out that way my guess would be the people who don't have kids that's your neighbor that's my guess I would I would immediately put the children havers out of the equation that's minus a thousand yeah yeah they don't have kids I don't think anyone would be concerned that's like something's happening to this child just because it's screaming loud because yeah like you said news flash it happens I think it sounds because I know the further way you get from the city the lower the noise tolerances like if you lived in an apartment the people that you share a wall with would not call the cops on something like this but you know you can have somebody across the street that's annoyed I just I would I would hope that you studied both of them when you asked them like did both neighbors and you're like hey something weird happened today hope you like really did the Larry David like look in their eyes when you maybe you can gleam something from that but I don't know this is this is something that I don't think you're going to be able to get to the bottom of if nobody wants to fess up unless it's just a concerned citizen that was born yesterday it doesn't understand how the world works I don't know I know it feels like

1:18:54it feels like one of those things you're just never gonna find out and if you like my old house I used like we just my next door neighbor was just the call the cops guy like the neighborhood new him is the call the cops guy it was dogs it was whatever there was always a problem you always had some sort of thing going on and it was like I always makes it easy whenever these complaints happen we pretty much know it's gonna be every time and you can kind of keep your distance so I you're probably not finding out for the babysitter thing I think it's pretty easy to just bring up the incident innocently and just say hey this happened there did you hear anything the cops did that they didn't come over right because then you could just kind of play out play off a little bit dumb and see if she has any information that maybe she was afraid to share with you because you're confronting her with it but I think just bring up what happened to her is totally normal and fine and maybe you'll get something out of it it's weird that she didn't answer the door but I guess he's he's got two perfectly plausible reasons why it's a lot of they may not have been there right and if you're upstairs of the screaming baby I mean I don't know the layout we know it blueprints to work off of here the cop possibility I don't think they've ever knocked on doors lightly and my experience it's pretty pretty loud and harrowing okay but if a police officer

1:19:55was outside and it sounded like beyond just a crying baby then that probably being a little bit more forceful of like what they feel like they have to monitor they may have come by and heard nothing nothing okay or they may have heard a baby crying and been like you know whatever I you know I think the nanny thing is probably worth addressing you've known this person they've been in your house they've been with your child now for a year and a half based on the timeline that you've given us and I understand maybe if there could be a language barrier or whatever but is there a way where you can go hey really something strange our neighbors told us somebody came and so it's not an accusatory fashion at all but you could just be like yeah was he having a fit you know yeah I just wanted to know in case like anybody would have called again the chances are it was an insane person heard a regular baby crying and decided to you know guardian angel this thing so I wouldn't put too much thought into it I would have to think that a nanny cam would

1:20:59either be something you've already invested in or maybe should invest in because this feels like a strike two situation like if it were something like this to happen again then we were talking about a completely different set of circumstances that need to be addressed but I would think instead of like sitting the nanny down in a dark dining room at the end of the day and feeling like they're being interrogated he just kind of collectively as the group be like hey something strange or whatever like was he losing at the other day and then you all just kind of laugh about it she's like yeah like I was trying to put him down even go down or whatever and then you kind of have it but it does seem weird that somebody would maybe process just a normal crying baby in a way that they felt like they had to call the police yeah and it sounds like he would have a suspect number one if I was going to ask like has anyone ever complained that your grill is too smoky or like there's six of you in the backyard on your patio and they're like hey you know it's Sunday like has that ever happened because that would be my number one suspect I think he would have included that in the email but I feel like that's that would be more likely what it is but yeah to the point about who it

1:22:00would be to like younger dudes I mean I again 20 whatever year old me I'm not calling the cops if I hear a crying baby but there are just things that I didn't know then that I know now like I remember talking to I remember talking to a guy at the old place when I took paternity and he was just like why don't you just stay home you work from home like the baby could just be at home and I'm like that's the most that is the most mid 20s something I've I've ever heard of my entire life because I would get literally nothing done all day like I mean it's just that's yeah but I wouldn't you wouldn't know that so I'm at the point being is that like you know maybe like some kid heard a baby crying he just has no idea what's going on thought he was doing his part by calling 911 on a on maybe like a a bike ride by or something and thought he was doing a good thing and he's actually just kind of an idiot I would I can't wait to take paternity leave yeah that's you late line it up football season sorry guys my check so coming in though here we go here we go oh you think this is a shot at you no well yeah I don't know you know I get you there I think

1:23:04the second one you put off right you took that on the back end I did I yeah you waited till I got down a little bit she came a month early so that through a wrench in the works and we just started Zach Lowe's new show and I was like I can't really take off right now so yeah so I I feel like I did take one for the team a little bit but you know I think we all the summer way yeah yeah okay different topic girl I'm seeing is a bad kisser six foot one 60 28 years old I'll cut to the chase and keep it quick I've gone two dates with this girl she's fun to hang out with cute super sweet but she is all caps a bad kisser like to the point where it's not even enjoyable while it's happening I'm like what is going on here I should not have this much saliva on my face passionate passionate lady my question is is there any feasible way to broach the subject without her making things incredibly awkward and her being rude I'd like to keep hanging out with her but I feel this is an IK I might not be able to get over it let me know your thoughts sign anonymous comes down to reps you know what I mean I don't know she may have a shot you you but you can't

1:24:05mess with her at times yeah you can kind of take charge without saying words though you know what I mean like they try to do this with T-Bose throwing motion and what's all happening you know there's like some pull away some gentle lip nibbling or something you could you could do a lot you could left up yeah I'm a little tongue manipulation you know what I mean and you just gotta take charge some people actually want you to so I think I think you could definitely try that but I think the broaching of the subject should be off the table I think she might not admit it but she would want you to go serve before you set some shit like that I know that cooler head saying like yeah we'd like to get this fixed but you know as we move along in life but this is just not gonna be received well so that's the thing too is when do you like when do you bring it up is it right after you make out is it like randomly on a Tuesday like totally away from when you kiss like it has to be in the act and the joke thing right out your day you ruin the mood after like a make-out session because like one it's not a peck though so it's not just like I was your day here's a kiss it's like you know your your you know things are getting maybe a little steamy and

1:25:08you're just gonna hit the brakes 100% be like actually here's a couple things that I just want us to work on you know together and it's mostly just things about her kiss thing and I think a joke is even worse if you're just like oh jeez gotta bring a bib next time or something you know I mean that's not gonna work you even know you're trying to like take it easy you know trying to keep it light I don't think that's gonna work so you can say nothing but like maybe do exaggerate it by like well then you're gonna feel like you know getting assaulted you know you can't do nothing I'm saying you do you do nothing but you show that clearly something is wrong so then she asked you and then it opens the door to be like well you know you asked me here's why just put a whole paper towels down at the coffee table yeah John Wick floor I'm excited what if you just went bad kiss her back came up with all sorts of different games yeah there's like a town or something going on which I saw was in you know is I don't know if it's like a Gen Z thing but not for me but yeah like there are some some new moves out there that I am not privy to could start smoking cigarettes you might be grussed out by that and then you just guys

1:26:14I mean when it's bad it's it's really bad I remember there was like a tornado situation that I was dealing with a long time ago and I was kind of like she this is like who told you this was a tornado so I just got yeah no teeth teeth is the worst one or clink and teeth that's a problem yeah but that's like it's usually he's bad breath is tough breath you really can't get over so we put that back with hisers yeah I think I'm yeah ST or perhaps well yeah ST or yeah yeah they can he's he but I'm serious guys I'm not even kidding you're that good I'm awesome yeah it's a natural skill or something you just like yeah I think just forever honestly forever you just have to get it in you yeah that's great you know yeah there's a lot of natural collagen as well just going so I think it's just Josh Allen was born 65 with a tan and arm college is born with a great mouth look at those lips yeah

1:27:15not kidding not kidding at all content we may have ever done who has told you that like if that are you like probably like 50% just verbally out loud saying hey this is awesome the first kiss being like wow damn yeah yeah that's awesome dude I yeah I'm I'm not so that's you know there you go you know you're a bad kisser I'm not bad kisser I just don't know that I'm like a great kisser feel like you're a kisser yeah like I'm not you know my Kyle yeah yeah that's fine though you know Ryan's quiet yeah I get to be suck you get to be get to shitty dynamics sorry all right let's see I don't really know I mean do we do we say anything else to this guy look everything's a trade off here like all the other stuff is great can you find a way can you work on this can you it can you get up to a 220 grit sand down the rough edges here yeah we're working on

1:28:16to manage your paper yeah yeah yeah but you breakers are to me are okay like not everything like hey maybe it is a deal breaker like maybe she's just not that's just it's okay like yeah that'll be like part of it yeah yeah like there's that whole trend of like girl saying that what what like X would do it's give her like the IK or whatever and it's like okay well we can't control half of these things like sometimes that's just part of life you're just not attractive to certain part of somebody because it's something they do I don't know so I mean if you really like her that's a bummer but yeah it does kind of suck just see if you can lead the next couple times that's all well I don't know I mean she she probably here the problem is whatever she's doing she thinks it's crushing every time I know because most people feel like what the fuck is that take it easy lassy so that's that's uh it's gonna be a tough bridge still blue coffees new can lattes are here crafted with a hundred percent

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1:30:21long work hours constantly changing diapers feeding babies no exercise and being skinny fat I decided to do something about it seeing a picture of myself and thinking that's weird my arms don't look that small coupled with my three-year-old wearing a tank top that said big muscles like dad gave me the push I needed I also got left myself good for him yeah right he used he used my he goes you can be stronger weak why would you choose weak for motivation that might be in my tombstone although I've never felt weaker all right now to the point I've made great progress over the last two months by creating a routine of lifting every day eating lean high protein meals daily probably don't need to lift every day buddy just let those muscles grow a little bit but again sometimes I want to just go in there so I don't really get it high protein meals daily seeing the gains I stupidly thought I was further along in my journey and I actually I'm did a military press with weight that I probably wasn't ready for and hurt my shoulder yeah that's what happens you're like I'm just gonna keep smashing all this stuff out you keep pushing yourself and then you might not have the base especially when you get those arms up above your head I couldn't help

1:31:25but think of a story you told a while back about having the same experience and giving advice along the lines of just don't do military press do you have any guidance on recovery or continue to live with this nagging injury thanks to advance he also is very complimentary the show so thank you for that yeah the military thing always drives me crazy because if you do the straight up 90 degree bench angle thing just think you're putting yourself your shoulders and specifically that area between your shoulder blades in a really compromised position when it starts to go heavy I don't know that the body is actually like you see some dudes doing some insane military press stuff but we've always talked about this so a plenty of you already heard before just dip the bench back a slaughter too so it's not incline but it's more incline and it's just gonna put way less pressure on your shoulders when you're doing all that kind of stuff and finally when somebody told me that after I fucked myself up so many times I was like oh this is great and here's the thing like you can go heavy but don't go like crazy ego heavy even if you think you're strong because again you're putting yourself in some of these compromised positions at 36 I'm not too worried unfortunately like this is when the bad stuff happens like with Ray Leod and good fellas or like this is the bad

1:32:29times these are the times you know when those injuries are gonna start popping up being like what the hell is this and they may not necessarily go away in 48 hours like they did all the other times so a lot of it is stretching if if I had stretched like this I would have been hurt a lot less I stretching constantly now stretching stretching stretching and I think if it's I don't know if it's the top of the shoulder if it's behind the shoulder again that shoulder blade thing usually is the thing that's compromised with the military press but I would pull on bands just pull in different directions all the time and I think there's also a lot of stuff where you if you just started lifting the supporting muscles probably are not fully developed so research shoulder injuries and figure out what muscles around it need to be worked on a little bit sometimes I'll just do like 17 pound kettlebells and just pull or sometimes I'll do stand up military dumbbells 20 pounds 30 pounds 40 50 60 if she's nasty but I you know look the shoulder thing but you can ego out on a chest press and have somebody spot you and if you don't get that last rep you're fine military is a

1:33:33dangerous dangerous game that is the end of my rant fair just makes me think of yeah I don't have much on that but it just makes me think if I watch that you remember a coach Wiley that browns guy from hard knocks the big big guy is that the belly guy that when he would the belly guy and it would bounce right yeah yeah yeah I'm not telling it I some reason like this week watch that video again of him like bitching about stretching and then talking about like he was like about like World War 2 and how is like nobody's stretching World War 2 is like we want two world wars now everybody's talking about stretching you don't need to stretch it's just like we want two world wars because we didn't stretch is such a great like reach that I'd I just respected anyway it has nothing to do with what we're talking about we're talking about stretching maybe think of that I love I love that you brought it back up and yeah I'm not gonna point out that you know do we win World War 2 quicker if we stretched we had some bands that we took out yeah little band work like man this Africa

1:34:38thing's taken forever you know I Africa took forever is like just the logistics it was a challenge where guys were I remember reading this one part where they were packing the ramps to unload the jeeps off these carriers and they put the ramps behind the jeeps so then they didn't have the ramps for the jeeps so there's a lot of like trial and error just packing alone now that's where you win the ore logistics of it all fuel food transportation yeah so they're ready to about yeah really if there's another one I've got I want to find this email will you guys talk amongst yourselves for a minute here I'm put me on the spot but I need to find this email that I think is great and I for some reason it's not it's not a flagged here I'll tell you the real quick that happened to me my sister got married this past weekend it was sick graduation in the back can we not know that he slid under the wire she wasn't sure if she wanted to you know it was non-traditional to gay wedding to begin with but slid under the wire we all got matching powder blue blazers that we stood up there with that was sick

1:35:40but the whole thing heading up to it was she said they were going to have room for yard games because on a farm I was like what about bucket golf she's like yeah we'll see if we have room I bring bucket golf just because take over the they had a frisbee golf section on this farm but I totally set up bucket golf in front of the frisbee golf nice little three-hole course maybe two people picked up a frisbee everybody was doing bucket golf the whole weekend I mean I was I was gonna say I feel one of two ways because you know you typically don't bring your own activities to a wedding yeah this was not a turnkey wedding though I mean we were said but yeah you said it was true that's yeah yeah um and she like getting it reluctantly at the end she was like yeah bucket golf was a huge issue right sorry I doubted you yeah yeah so that's good that's good yeah no yeah I know you're getting in your the reps there for the bucket golf I feel I still get to play I've got to I've got to get out there and do it I don't know I don't know I'm sick I feel like they should be calling us at this point but I guess this is the last one you guys get you ever play Polish horses back in the day that was always one of my favorite speaking of frisbee's are those smaller horses or

1:36:42now where you stick a ski pole on the ground and you put a beer on top of it and you throw frisbee's at it and then if it hits the pole and you the whole game is a knock the beer off the pole right and then it's on the way by the way it's it is great super fun sounds good if you hit if you hit the the pole you can then grab it but if it's the ground you have to chug it the rest of it essentially oh okay it's a very cool game very fun game anyway I just think you can yard games haven't played that in a while but it's it's a fun one I love that game when I see you guys doing it love it it's great it's been a minute let's bring it back all right I can't find the one I was looking forward we're gonna do this one hey guys 511-1 91 nothing crazy in the gym I've basically been maintaining for the last five years I show four days a week do the same list I've always done and somehow managed to maintain a physique that's somewhere between he lifts and he likes beer you know what kind of the theme of the start of the so-thing sometimes sometimes it's better so you're in there you're doing it you're maintaining I know the plateauing things things though it sucks Miami-A comp would probably be a late career Andre Igodalla decent size for a wing no standout skill

1:37:46but a solid jack of all trades teammate man I feel like you're being a little like I know what you're doing but Igodalla could also like run an offense and set up stuff too like he was an incredible wing because he didn't need it but if he was asked to use well you probably didn't want to go to all of these two younger number sixers area Igodalla yeah right point card Igodalla 28 years old married for two years live in a city I really enjoy away from my hometown where most of my high school friends still live they have a great group of guys somewhere married some aren't some have successful career some don't everyone's on a different path the thing I've been wrestling with lately is this what's response what responsibility if any do you have as a friend to push someone who you think is capable of a lot more there are three friends in particular that have me thinking about this the first two guys are in their mid 30s early mid 30s both have college degrees generally smart capable guys they live together back home make a living reselling things they find it thrift stores and estate sales they basically live paycheck to paycheck are rarely able to participate in any group vacations or cool outings so somebody needs to start a YouTube channel

1:38:50I know two friends that are antiquing yeah they live together okay if that's truly what makes them happy then great but from the outside it feels less like they consciously chose that life and more like they slowly drifted into it well said they don't have health care retirement benefits neither one dates they don't really meet new people they don't seem to have much more of a long term plan okay as their friend is at my place to ask questions like what's the plan five years from now or have you ever thought about getting a traditional job could those conversations actually help someone who just needs a little push or do conversations like that almost always come across as judgmental and accomplish nothing then there's another friend who's in a little different situation he's 29 really smart works hard but he's never had a traditional nine to five he's tried starting multiple businesses one failed the next failed and now he's on to another idea whatever the topic of getting a regular job comes up he'll say things like I could never work a nine to five or I can't have a boss I absolutely love guys that have nothing going on like

1:39:58can't I can never wait for it could be me yeah you're good you're fucking doing a great job man telling this new fruit from the Amazon rainforest that I just need to get five more guys and then you know it will be fine the man was thumb on your back no thanks I interview a corporate life feels like it came entirely from watching office space he jokes in a normal job is just grinding away every day to increase shareholder values so you can get a pizza party once a year now it's been the company that's pretty cool worldview but yeah will you film one of these rancents and send it to us anyway the funny part is he's never actually worked in that environment meanwhile he's barely making enough money to support himself still is at home he keeps chasing the next business idea part of me wants to sit him down and explain that a lot of us actually enjoy our jobs having a steady paycheck health care retirement savings co-workers you like and enough financial stability to move out date travel and build a life isn't a soul crushing existence it's actually pretty nice but then I wonder if I'd be the idiot in that conversation plenty of successful entrepreneurs failed multiple times before something finally worked

1:41:00one of his next ideas the one that changes everything who might it tell someone to stop betting on themselves and fall in line with quarter america if there's even a small chance they're right have you ever had friends like this a ton my answer people who seem stuck I was one of these guys for a good chunk of my 20s people who seem stuck or people who kept chasing something that didn't seem realistic again check both of those boxes did they eventually figure out on their own is there ever a point we're being a good friend means having an uncomfortable conversation and challenging someone or is that almost never productive and the better move is to let people live the life they choose I'm genuinely torn part of me thinks I should mind my own business another part of me feels like if I watch my closest friends waste 10 years of their life without ever saying anything I'd regret staying quiet well for the third guy you are the idiot in his eyes and it sounds like you have probably already brought it up because how would you know all these insights that he has about you know the working stiffs how would you know that he thinks you're a sheep if you guys haven't talked about this already because he brings it up yeah you would certainly be the

1:42:06sheep talking to the wolf in this situation you know in his eyes for that yeah I don't know I think I think guys can have thick skin when it comes to a lot of things but like if you're basically you know if you're talking about like their vocabulary or their I don't know where they live or or what they're wearing or something like that I think that would all fly but if you're just like excessentially I don't know what the fuck you're up to man dudes are I think a little less receptive to that kind of criticism or or questioning so that's a tough one I personally I just I'm not touching this you know if everyone at the friend group dynamic is fine everyone's happy and they're not like if you if you know that they're like bummed out about not being able to do these things with you guys or go in these trips or or afford certain things then like all right yeah maybe it's like hey like I've been thought about this but if everything is like status quo is fine you guys are a good friend group and like I just don't know that you messed with that dynamic maybe this is like just the idiot old school man thing of like suppress all your feelings and because like you know

1:43:08you know like the videos that go around now or it's like you know dudes hang out they go golf for five hours and they come home and they ask the wife's like hey like did so and so started a new job you're like no idea no idea like that's kind of like that's kind of my friend group like we have a great time and we just kind of I know there there have been times when like you when you really need to get in I'm not going to go into specifics but like you know we'll ask a question here or there because you know they kind of need something but if these guys all seem relatively happy and you are a good friend group and you operate well and they you know sometimes you just gotta let guys live their own life and then like you become the guy who is like always got it all figured out great now he's gonna fix my thing and that's just not a place where I would personally want to be maybe you do but I I I don't know I let people live you know let let let people live the life let people make their mistakes and you know help them when they ask for help and I'm not saying this is like for success stories because like a lot of you see like a successful person a lot of times they're actors so I don't think it it totally translates and maybe one of the actors wait no but I'm saying like when these interviews when they talk about getting into the business or finally you know they love to say how they were

1:44:09you know fucking picking out a garbage cans and eagle rock when they were sharing a room with four other guys or something like and that might be romanticizing it a little bit now that they're the shit but I think like a lot of times like people that end up doing well they have like kind of a story that's kind of not dissimilar to do what some of these guys are going through and my point is like if that's a success story there's gotta be somebody who came ended up in the middle you know what I mean there's probably might just be late bloomers is my point like I think if it's if the if it's good enough for Bradley Cooper you know maybe maybe maybe it's good enough for you one day I don't know I think I think being 29 is not like if you're doing well at 29 and you're looking at your buddy at 29 like I think you got to give him a little more rope just because you definitely can't fix him and he's old enough to have free will and do what he wants so I think you just gotta have like be positive that something will work out including it was like bus and tables at like 45 wasn't he I don't know 45 I don't know he was old but I think he had yeah yeah I was already full that was that John Ham somebody got somebody was he was old yeah Ham was for the industry it was

1:45:12it was like late for him but you're right like Clooney was late to it because I've heard so many Clooney stories and by the way they're all incredible yeah like whatever drop a dive bags for his best buddies of like million dollars is that real I don't know if that one's real or not I was at some writers party years and years ago it was like when I first got out here I was like oh you know whatever so and there's like you don't have to be Clooney maybe you're just an HVAC guy later on in life and it's like yeah actually I got more work than I know what to do with I don't know I'd rather you be Clooney that's the best you're that's hanging of all time um I would leave the 30 something's alone this just maybe like if they're on the same page and like the biggest takeaway I have from this email is that you're assessing three of your friends that you don't think are doing as well as they should be doing right I don't know that you're necessarily being judgmental some people can frame it that way maybe you are a judgmental guy but you're not coming to us with one person you're coming to us with three so that either speaks to you feeling like you have got to pull everybody up which may be great intentions it also could mean that you could just

1:46:14not worry about this shit again I don't know the specific dynamics here but you're not just talking about one person this feels much like I older brother to younger brother conversation okay than it is some buddies from home uh I think you guys are absolutely right like there's just a recoil you have as a man where you're like oh you're gonna fucking assess me why don't we do y'all scouting report you know and it's like just doesn't go well and if anybody pulled me aside in my 20s I wasn't gonna listen to him anyway I remember having this epiphany at one point when I still was like I was just kind of getting started but it was still pretty tough and then there was a guy that I knew and he was like you know honestly I don't really feel like I ever figured it out like until I was 35 and I was like awesome I've like six more years new deadline. There we go yeah it was like the best day ever I'm like I'm gonna start taking it easy but I can I can be like this for six more years this is great news so I do think there's something and I don't like the how you know selfish can get about well I did this so then everybody else and that's not really I think it's maybe more myopic than the selfish but it because I did this then everybody

1:47:19else is kind of supposed to do this and that's where you can start making some mistakes on assessing what other people are doing look maybe the nine to five world is absolute hell to your friend which again it can still be held them without necessarily experiencing it and there's something to be said kind of like on the theme of the beginning this whole thing of like what if these guys are happy like you never mentioned once that they were unhappy what if they're happy I mean what if you think they're delusional and they're at peace maybe the 30s somethings but the 29 year old guys probably gonna have to keep failing and falling a bunch of different times but those failures or whatever you deem is like not him living to his potential those are gonna shape whatever he ends up becoming and he's gonna know what he doesn't want and know what doesn't work and hopefully you know not that we all learn from every single mistake that we make but I would lay out is if I give you one sentence of advice which is not what we do here I would I would lay out and and not really

1:48:19worry about it that much because men don't listen to each other and um the friend group thing can get really weird like I can think of a few different people if I ever pull the side they'd just be like oh well oh yeah okay mr. ESPN is gonna tell us how how it works and I was just go like I'm not doing this and then the what about is some starts you know yeah well yeah I love that one yeah so I can do another one here but at this feels like a full circle why don't we not why don't we not do another because we're already 40 minutes because we're a week right we could lose something on the table yeah yeah I found the email so we'll do that one for the next show to start on it I did I just started our topic we ready to buy it at 51 thank you you know what I'll listen I'm receptive to your goal oh man okay thanks a ton thanks to Kevin thanks to 3 thanks to Kyle please subscribe to the show full episodes on Netflix three times so we ride our silo show our store sports