The Undrafted - De'Zhaun Stribling Recalibration

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2:05If I'm on Twitter at Dino Game Theory. This is episode number 254. Let's roll. First time, first time call or long time listener. Dwayne McFarland joins us today. I am so excited. I absolutely love Dwayne McFarland's work. If you're not familiar, man, I don't know what the hell you're doing out there because this is one of my absolute favorite follows favorite listens. I make it a point to listen to him during the season, especially at the beginning of the season. This is when he, I think, provides the absolute most value to me and to many others in the fantasy space. And especially for dynasty. For me, you know, you certainly want to be ready to be wrong. You also want to be first to be right. I think Dwayne provides a ton of insight as to how to get there first in your dynasty. You can find Dwayne on Twitter at Dwayne McFarland. Obviously, he's over at fantasy life. We are so pleased to bring to the show Mr. Dwayne McFarland's up to.

3:09Hey, man, I appreciate you having me in. I don't know if I can live up to your nice intro, but I appreciate all the kind words. And totally appreciate the work that you do in this space as well. And so yeah, just happy to get on and talk some football. We're almost there. We're almost there. I know. I'm a Puka guy, right? So I've always liked Puka. And of course, he's just unraveling in front of us. And I always say football can't come soon enough for guys like him. Please hurry up and get him on a football field where he can't walk through glass windows. Glass doors, excuse me. Yeah. It's so good for some of our guys who are getting in trouble, but I think we're going to be all right. Yeah, I mean, look, and with Puka, that was a great call by you. I remember you and a few other people were really strong on him. Like he had some underlying data things that I liked. Didn't like pop off huge in the rookie supermodel just because like it's just it's tricky. Like because there's certain players like him that really do hit. And then there's others that don't. And so like trying to be balanced in the model. But I will say like you guys, it was you and I think D bro and.

4:12He broke his one of his well, the other person that was really big on Puka. But anyway, yeah, I mean, look, Puka, Naka, we all love him. Yeah, it was interesting. I was post post draft in other words, after the NFL draft, I just feel like how, you know, I mentioned on the outside, I was first to be right or whatever, you know what I mean? Like I was ready to sort of change on Puka. I saw this sort of, you see the tea leaves. You see this sort of messaging coming from the team. You sort of hear the camper porch. You're like, hmm, this might be something. Right. You know, and I think, you know, when you're buying in those moments, you're buying cheap anyway, you're buying for thirds and seconds and dynasty rather than, you know, force and fist where he was going, but not first and multiple first where he ended up. So I think those are the types of buys I'm okay making. Same type of thing with probably like a player like Dishon's, Stribling. I don't think we're going to see a Puka like run out. But if you were able to buy a guy like Stribling because you saw this sort of camp reports for seconds or thirds or multiple seconds or thirds or whatever, I think it's well worth it. You know, what are your thoughts about Dishon before we kind of get, get more oil in

5:14here? Yeah. Look, he's a very interesting one because like the superpower of the rookie supermodel is honestly identifying bus. And so one of the things that I look for is a Delta and their draft capital value, which is just basically taking the work that Chase Stewart's done and every draft pick has a value assigned to it. It's not linear, right? It's a logarithmic kind of curve. Picks are worth a whole lot. And then they drop off real steeply and then they study out, right, towards the end of the curve. Whenever I was looking at Stribling, he actually had a lot of bus flags. Yeah. And of the guys that were in his range, only one of the 13 have ever hit. And it was Rishi Rice. But as I thought about it and I looked at it, I was like, really, there's no better place for a guy like Dishon Stribling to land. You land with Kyle Shanahan, who's going to use your yak ability, you know, big athletic, you know, speedy guy, sturdy. This is a thick frame player. This is not a small move gadget kind of guy. You can do all those things with him, but like he's got the size to do it. And if you look at his yards after the catch over expected, which I use, I adjust based

6:15on their average depth of target is where it was, where they get the target on the field. And then their quarterback play is also a small component of that because, you know, accuracy is a big part of yak. But ultimately, like he graded out really well above, like where his expectations should have been for who he was. And so I, when I saw that and then I saw you're playing with Kyle Shanahan, they invested a high pick in you. I was like, if there's a chance for the rookie supermodel to really be wrong on a prospect this year, it's him. Like it's also very down on Denzel Boston. And I'm fading Boston, but to your point, landing in that scheme and then the constant beat reports from camp and then putting it on the preseason tape as well. I mean, against ones in some of those games. And I was like, all right, like, hey, rookie supermodel, like I, I, I trust you. You do a lot of things really well, but I also have my own brain and I want to buy Dishon Stribling. Speaking of that, you had sent out a tweet, which I loved. It was the Caleb Johnson tweet, where you were like, the one time I go against the model. And here's what happens.

7:16You know, sort of, I think you were kind of illustrating that, you know, you feel a pressure to sort of listen to what the model says, even though the model is, I think it's mostly because it's, it has no emotion, right? There's nothing to the model that cares about, you know, anything but the data. And so we tend to want to listen to it because we have so much bias, but the, the models don't. And, but yet we're like, well, he landed in Pittsburgh. It's going to look really good that uniform and they're going to run the ball and all these things and all of a sudden, you're like, I should have listened to the model. You know, even Stribling to some degree is a little bit in the opposite for me because our model kind of liked them. But I thought there were some red flags, but you know, it's it once again, we always say in the model we should trust because our, our widows, Eva model admittedly is very different from many of the other models. Like one of the things you mentioned, the draft capital thing, I think a lot of the times what people will do is they'll take their model and they'll add points to a score because

8:16of where they were drafted. Our model is kind of the, it was literally the opposite. It's a regressive stat meaning nobody can gain anything from being drafted highly. They can only lose something from being drafted lower. So Stribling kind of fell in a range that was like, hmm, this is pretty interesting. He wasn't like way off the charts, but he was in a range that we tend to see some hits. And so we were paying a little bit of attention to Stribling, although I personally faded them. So it's one of those things where I was like, I should have listened. What are your thoughts about that in terms of just on the, on the surface level, I think because both you and I, both, you know, what you do and what we do at OTC, we do provide model. A lot of the people will ask, I'm sure they ask you all the time, you know, your model said this shouldn't I just, you know, I think they want to listen to it almost like, you know, it's rankings. It's another tool, right? Right. Yeah, it's not, it's not like the silver bullet or anything. It's not like the one. It's, it's like you said, it's a tool. There's a lot of tools in our toolbox. Yes. And ultimately, like, I like it because it's my starting point because what you said, like,

9:19you know, the model is essentially just built. We've just looked for which data points provide the most signal to future fantasy success in the NFL. Yes. And draft capital is one of those however you want to use it, whether you're taking away, you're adding to, to me, like an NFL team, they're, this is a multi billion dollar industry, the NFL and like they're investing all of this, all of these resources into figuring out who the best players are. And it doesn't mean they're always right, but like we need to take that into account, you know? Yes. So essentially, I use the two things together. I really, the model, right, is more weighted on the things that they did in college, but the draft capital certainly counts. And then I'm looking for that delta between, you know, those two things to see which players were probably reaches which ones weren't. But yeah, I mean, getting into situation really can be tricky and it can lead to landmines. And Caleb Johnson, you brought him up. That was a really good example. Naji Harris had left that year and I looked at the backfield. I really do like J. Lamor and I still like J. Lamor and like underlying data. I still like for J. Lamor and but whenever I looked at that and I was like, all right,

10:23with Tomlin, they bring in a bigger guy. Although like, I don't think Caleb Johnson's necessarily like a bruise with the bruise thing. He has the size. That's not his style. It's not the way he plays, but the model, you know, doesn't really care about that. The big knock on him is just didn't do a lot in the passing game, you know, in college. And I thought his explosive stuff just was like subpar. Like he did some nice, he definitely had some huge games in college. Yes. But like over his full body of work, it wasn't necessarily spectacular. And that's why the model was, you know, downgrading him. And the model had him as running back eight or nine and I ended up putting him like running back six that year in my rookie ranks. And yeah, so it's one of those that you look back at and I may be doing it again with struggling, but I just, I honestly, I just look at the scheme and I just trust so much. And it kind of goes back to the Puka thing. Like when you look at the, you look at Shanahan, you look at McVeigh, I mean, with Cooper Cup, you know, as around three pick, even before we had Puka Nakuwa going off as around five pick. And the 49ers, it's not like the track record's been perfect. They've definitely busted, you know, on some wide receiver profiles. But I just look at the strengths of struggling.

11:25And then I look at the strengths of the 49ers offense and just the age of everyone else around him. And I'm like, you know, if there is a scheme that can really make this guy work, I'm in. And like, I don't think people like if you were doing your redraft today, like, I wouldn't be drafting just, just on struggling like in the middle of round one. But somewhere right around there, you know, it gets, once you get to six or seven, depending on if you're in tight and premium or a super flex, you know, I mean, I, I think he's in the back half of round one conversation. I did my rookie draft just three weeks ago. We wait later. A lot of the guys in our league like to wait and struggling with the first pick in the second round of that draft to one of my really good buddies and his son who reads my stuff. And like, I saw him over their whispering. I was like, here goes, struggling. But I, yeah. And the other thing is I just don't think this is a, like, I think this is a pretty deep wide receiver class as far as like, there's a lot of guys that could hit, but there's a bunch of them jumbled together. And so that's whenever I think like some of the tie breakers, like if you look at them

12:27in the rookie supermodel, like you have four or five receivers all like within like one point of each other in the model. And for me, that's where I just put on the thinking hat of, okay, let me think through this. I'm going to take the situation. These guys are not that far apart. Struggling is technically four below these other guys, but it's by one point, right? It's not, it's not like this massive thing in the model. So where I typically try not to go against the model, though, is if it's something where, you know, it's a clear tear break, right? And the model says they're way down here and now they're getting pumped up, you know, to being, you know, like a round above where I think they should be going or maybe two rounds sometimes, which can happen. The later your draft happens because then you get more of this other information that can really influence people. The closer you draft, the closer you draft your dynasty, dynasty leader, you do your rookie drafts, you know, to the NFL draft, when people have less information, the more I, even then the more I stick to the model, right? But I do the same thing as I get more information. I do change things a little bit, but I, again, I will, I stick to the tears, but if it's

13:27just like a point or two difference, and I really like the situation better, I, I will lean into that at times. Same. Yeah. We have an interesting situation this year where, you know, when you look at players that the model light, we are our model really like Jacobi Lane and Elijah Sarat. And we're like, oh, I can't wait to draft these guys. This is going to be great. And then they both go to Baltimore and we're like, hmm, now, this is not a little love, love Sarat too. It was okay on Jacobi Lane, but love Elijah Sarat. You know, and they end up in the same spot, which wasn't exactly a great landing spot, but also competing with each other. And so, you know, our advice to our, you know, our listeners was definitely try and, try and draft them both, you know, because their cost wasn't very expensive, you know, we were consistently getting those players in the third round. So it wasn't expensive, but on the flip side, there was another spot where I'm sure you had two players, one that sounds like he didn't like as much. Actually, our model had Boston ahead of conception, but conception and Boston both go to Cleveland.

14:28Again, not a great situation. And they also cannibalize each other with the opportunity there. What were your thoughts on those two? Yeah. The model did not like Denzel Boston, the rookie supermodel didn't, doesn't mean that it's necessarily right. Right. You know, more of a possession style receiver does work down the field, really good in the red zone, but doesn't add a ton afterwards. And my other, you know, concern with players like that is they often get stuck on the outside. Right. So they're having to play the X, got to play against, you know, more coverage versus conception. Really, the whole idea of being that he's a move player, he had as much, he was much better early in his college career, kind of had a rough sophomore year, which he basically decided he wanted to leave that offense because it was all like bubble screens and stuff. And he wanted to show that he could do more than that. And good on him because he goes to Texas, and they put him outside and let him work vertical. So now I've got this profile that show me they can do both things. You can, you can let them be the guy you, you designed stuff around the line of scrimmage, which you don't want to play or this just that, that's bad.

15:28Actually, that's a big time red flag. And we've seen that play out with so many of these, you know, smaller wide receivers, especially to where they just, they can't make it at the next level because now you got to have a full or at least you need a more diverse route tree. You can't just have it all designed. But if you can work multiple levels of the field and you can be someone that your team can feed you, say, 3% of your target share around the line of scrimmage, now you're talking about something that we can really work with. And the other thing that I really like, you know, outside of the model with concepts you own is just the way the NFL is moving and what defenses are doing to take away the past game, you know, with the lowest gross passing yards per game since 2008 last year at 225 and the league and the league is just saying, we're not letting you go deep. So we really need these players that can move around the formation, get in motion, you know, hit those in breaking routes off of play action, all those things. And short term, it's positive because it's Todd Monkin. They don't have a quarterback though. Right. That's what makes it tricky. Actually, I have four of them. I checked the last day. They didn't have four.

16:28And as a none. Yeah. We'll see. Maybe tailing green can, can like do something for us. I'm sure he's going to unlock the deep passing game as he's rushing for a thousand yards a season. So one of the things I've said so many times is, you know, I bet the supermodel really liked Marvin Harrison Jr. and Roma Dune's A because I know our model did as well. And what I've been hesitant is any time a guy prospects as being an outside ex, I'm scared just because of the way the NFL is playing and you look at all the successful wide receivers whether it's Almanra, Cooper Cups, Triple Crown season, Lam, Puka, Jamar Chase, even in his best season played more in the slot and took advantage of those of those matchup. They moved him around a lot more. We're seeing that the players that Jason, obviously, the players that score the most fantasy points are in the slot. That doesn't mean they're slot only. And I think that's a distinction that we've been making and just slamming home on this program is that you'll hear a lot of people say, yeah, he's a slot.

17:30I don't really like him. It's like, hold on. What kind of slot? I like Lemon, JSN first round slot or a Wanda, Robinson who actually is kind of getting there. But that prototype generally doesn't. The Xavier Restrepo's and things of that nature, which, yeah, maybe they'll get pigeonholed into slot only, which means they're only going to play a little. Even the sort of alpha slot only is like Jayden Reed still don't quite get there. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, a lot of it does come down to being able to stay on the field like you need, you know, a 90% route participation rate to be in the leak conversation, you know, for wide receivers. Right. If you can get to 85, like that's still really good. But like if you get stuck in a role where like, Josh Downs and Jayden Reed and Josh Downs sounds like he will get to play outside this year. I really like him. But at the same time, like some of it does come back to size. I know we try to be more advanced and not be like sizes, you know, nobody wants to be an ageist or a sizeist. But you got to be able to work those areas and you're going to take big hits, man, from super athletic linebackers that like if you arrived took a hit, like I wouldn't get up

18:33for three days. And these guys are taking multiple hits like that. You got safeties rotating down on you. It's just, you know, it's physics, man. It's, it's, it's a lot to take on. And on top of that, we see a guy like Troy Franklin who our model really like, but yet he has been coming out on run blocking, you know, plays because he can't do it. Right. He's so small. There's even that. And he's want to be balanced and they want to run the ball because that's what defenses are inviting them to do because they're saying we're going to play deep. We're going to start off in a too high look. We're going to rotate one safety way deep right off the snap. And this has been coming, you know, for multiple years, you know, average depth of target is down, the passing yards are down. And basically like the Lee was just like, we're not letting Patrick, my home's, Patrick, my homes like, yes, when they saw that, they were like, okay, we can't, we can't allow this anymore. We can't play the same kind of defenses that let someone, we, we've got them down and three drives. They can score 21 points at the drop of a hat and beat us. And so defenses have decided, you know, we're just going to invite offenses to run the ball.

19:33And so it does matter because offenses will run the ball more now. And you, you need to be able to block. And to your point, the other thing on the, the big thing on the slot stuff is, you know, and you kind of, you kind of hinted at it too. It's can they play outside, but also like, what's their average depth of target, right? If they're just like a five or a six and they're all underneath and that's all they ever did in college, that's the kind of archetype. This really tough. But if it's someone that's shown, there is Tony. Yes, there is Tony. Yeah. Now, like I call, I see a lot of them like Hunter Renfro had a good year, cold, beasley had a good year. And you would see these guys from the slot every year, a new one kind of like tight ends today where we're like, oh, there's going to be some tight end, 19 or 20 that's going to get more playing time that we think and they're going to be a top 10 tight end. It was the same way with slot receivers like every year, we would get a new one, but then they would disappear. Right. So those guys are pretty much gone. Offices are not wanting to put that archetype on the field and that's not what conception is. Right. What they seem to be doing is taking their best receiver, moving them inside and taking

20:33a sacrificial X, you know, someone that can just run, I think, I don't know if it was you or I read somewhere, the, the Boutet numbers where he was running, he was like 90% on the line and at X and ran like 35% go routes last year or something like that. You're not going to get a lot of targets like that. Unless you're Christian Watson, like he, he gets a strong amount of targets for a guy that works as deep as he does, which that's changing for him this year. He's in a totally new role. But yeah, it's, you don't want to be stuck out there on the perimeter again, because the defense, they're not giving that up now. Use to it. You can be like, well, you get stuck out there. Maybe you don't get a 25% target share, but you get 22, 23 and you score 10 touchdowns and you get 1200 yards. We're all good. Like it evens out. It's tougher now. We're going to ask Mr. Duane McFarlane some more questions. My time is limited with him. I am so grateful for it, but I've got some big questions right after this. You know those pieces in your closet, you find yourself wearing on repeat. Those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy and that's what Quince does best.

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22:35Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look. Try it. Style it. Make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. It shows off. Stay fit. Handle. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest Crocs store today. Welcome back to the program. Dwayne, thank you so much for being here. You're the absolute man. I absolutely love it. I want to ask you some questions and I want to try and get some answers. You don't. You want answers? You can't handle the truth. Let's do this. I think the Denver backfield is one where now I start to hear what you have to say about usage and what you think, what you've seen in the preseason. Maybe last year. I don't really care. But what are your thoughts about this Denver backfield and how you're handicapping it going forward? Well, you said it up perfect because we have a few good men here. You're quote there from a few good men. So it's pretty tricky and you know you talked about the ADPs on all these guys.

23:37And Harvey is the archetype that we still like the most because it can break fantasy because he really is the guy that's a good receiver out of the backfield. And that's the hardest trait to find is someone that's not just a check-down artist, but can actually work like, you know, when I say downfield, it doesn't mean deep shots. It just means that they can run a Texas route. They can do these different things that create high low looks for their offense, you know, against the linebacker or the quarterback drops back. They read the safety and they see what the linebacker is doing. And they're either hitting a seam and they're hitting underneath that, you know, with this angle route. And that's like CMC and Camera, Eccler or those guys. And they will occasionally work deep down the field like we saw just the other day with ours. Harvey and the pieces and game that touchdown pass down the side line from boat next. But it's like, that's the hardest thing to find. Most running backs can't do that. So and if you look at the rushing aspect of things, if you have a good offensive line, like you can probably be decent. I'm not saying that vision and all those things don't matter. They certainly do. And there's certain running backs that are definitely better at running the ball than others. But it's easier to figure that part out, right?

24:39If you're not a good receiver out of the backfield, you're just not. And we played a game where you get a point, you know, for a catcher, a half a point for a catch. And so it matters more for our game than it necessarily does for NFL teams. And so I do think that Harvey is still the one that has the best bet there. But when you add Coleman and this year and he, he's like a really well rounded back, right? He's not going to do the kind of things Harvey does in the past game. But this is a fire hydrant, man. Like this guy got great balance vision can run between the tackles, can handle the carries inside the five, kind of got an MJD kind of build to him. And he's ready for a similar and the in the rookie supermodel to RJ Harvey as far as their overall score, Harvey was slightly ahead. And so I think it's a tricky situation. Dobbins, you know, is still playing really well right now, but battles the injuries getting older. So the two, I prefer obviously Harvey and Coleman. But in a vacuum, I do kind of just lean to Coleman like as being the one, you know, that costs. And so I was, I was referencing Dynasty ADP there.

25:41I'm not sure about. It's about that in redraft too. Yeah. It's pretty close. You know, a lot of times we have discrepancies, but right now Harvey's in eight to nine in redraft. And then Dobbins is a nine to 10. And then Coleman is somewhere between 11 and 14, depending on what site you're playing on. So it's kind of the same bet right now in redraft. For redraft, like, it's a little trickier. I think Coleman and your one. I eat some things. I think he's going to be part of the rotation, but a Dobbins injury is kind of what you're waiting on. Here's what I'll say. I think if Dobbins went down, I don't think Harvey steps into a huge role. I think his role increases, but I think Coleman's good enough that that's what makes it so tricky now. You guys and Sean Payton loves to run these committees. I've heard you mentioned this. I mean, and I tend to agree. Maybe that's why I asked the question. I just wanted to have the start off with an agree, you know, agreeing with Dwayne. But I think that, you know, RJ Harvey's role is more static and that the Dobbins, Jonah Coleman role changes dramatically.

26:41Obviously if Dobbins gets hurt, I think Jonah's the one that, you know, steps forward and has a lot more. Like I think he will be sort of not that involved if Dobbins and RJ Harvey are both healthy. But I do think that they see him as a player who could step into either role because he's so well-rounded. That could be wrong, obviously, but it makes a lot of sense from a usage standpoint, from both their college and their NFL so far careers, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think Coleman's got a lot of playability, like in the way you can apply. I mean, he just does a lot of things that coaches like as well. Like, I mean, he doesn't, doesn't drop the ball. He doesn't fumble the ball. He can block on pass downs, like all these things that don't, don't have like a huge weight or they have no weight at all, honestly, in the rookie supermodel. But there are things that I write and talk about in context because we know that like there's more to the game than just the things we can capture, you know, and a spreadsheet. And so when I look at, you know, Coleman, I think, you know, the challenge is like there's, if there's two guys healthy, it just makes it tough.

27:42But I do agree with you. I think Harvey's role would also increase and to your point, like we could be wrong. Like if Dobbins went down and Harvey took on most of that work, he, and we saw that last year, I mean, he was a low in running back one. Yeah. And he wasn't great as a runner. He was pretty good as a receiver though. And the people forget that people can improve. People can get better and we had so hung up on while he didn't score 18 fantasy points for game last year when he got his opportunity. But Coleman's definitely a thorn in his side, man. My only issue with him set you with the improve, not that he can't improve, but he's also like, I think he's older than like Javante. It's something like, yeah, 25, you know, and maybe close to 20. I mean, that's just, it's just, it's just, we don't know. Like coaching they get like ages one thing, but your experience, the program you played at, you know, maybe, you know, there are different things. And who knows? Sometimes you may have had a better coach in college. Yeah. What you get in the NFL. So it's not like it's just a guarantee that like some position coach is going to fix your woes. Right. I guess what I'm getting at is not necessarily that he can't improve, but that even if

28:43he does, we're talking about a prospect that you may not get that much run out of in dynasty, you know, sort of, you know, saying he's a young player is kind of not true. It's kind of, you know, so let's move to Washington. The commanders as they're called these days. I don't particularly like calling the commanders, but that's okay. I'm an old, I'm an old fashioned guy like the old name, but look, here's the question I have for the Washington backfield because I think, you know, I'll ask it this way because if there's a player running back on this team that would crack the top 24 in 2026, who do you think that would be? I think it's wide open, man. Like, I mean, we know that like playing with Jaden Daniels next to you is a gravitational pull, right? We've seen this. How many years for guys that got the lineup against Lamar? Obviously Derek Henry is a lead in his own right. So he's great, but like, Gus Edwards, I mean, we can go to Mark Ingram having a pretty decent there.

29:43But you're there when you first got there, Dobbins, who obviously, you know, I really liked his prospect, but yeah, was was smashing. So when I look at this, it just comes down to like, which one ends up playing the most? And if you look at all the camp reports, you look at everything that we've gotten, it's Chakuri Crossgamer at the start of the year. Like, can he keep that? I don't know. I think there are positives with Bill as they like to call him and he's an explosive player. He likes to get downhill. And that kind of fits what they want to do. You get that glimmer of daylight and you go. Yes. I will say though, I don't know how much I like drafting him right now and redraft. You can get him in around nine or 10 and running backs really tricky this year and redraft. It's I try to encourage people, honestly, to kind of go old school and try to have two running backs after the first two rounds. It's not a blind state of guys. If you look at my tears over on the side, I'll tell you where you stop and you just take the receivers instead, but having someone like that, I do think that so he's the one I target the most. But to your point, it's kind of like I can't say for sure. So if I don't get him, I don't mind tacking on a Rashad white, you know, later or even

30:47coming back to a K-Tron Allen who I was worried about at first because I was like, man, this guy's getting like 35 carries into the fourth quarter of that first preseason game. I was like, I don't know. He's going to make the roster, but he did. And I mean, he is the kind of style back that could also work with Jay Daniels, not not quite as explosive as J. Corey Croskey, Marit, but like he reliable. He's reliable. So I think he's more of a way for our guy for this year. So I'm betting on Bill to start the year, but if he falters, he's not going to have a strong grip. I just wonder how they're going to have to play. I don't know how good their defense is going to be. They may want to have this running attack, rushing attack, but if they just get sort of rust into playing in shotgun, playing known passing down, just where that's the way they're going to have to play because they're behind, right? If they're playing from behind, they're going to be throwing more. I would imagine that's the Rashad white recipe. I agree that if there's a top 24 back here, it's it's J. Corey Croskey, Marit.

31:49So I actually agree with that. But I wonder if it's just on a game to game basis, they're just sort of forced to play Rashad white. We could not want to there. There's a there's a real chance that we're looking at it in every week. We don't know which one to pick. Right. Or like it is a realistic concern. I will say the one really good thing is whenever you typically have a dual threat like Jaden Daniels, those teams, even when they're trailing, they really do kind of stick to it. Now, they're not going to stick to it as much as if they were winning like a team like that if they're winning might actually drop back to past 50% of the time. If you're trailing though, it might only be 55% right? Because they know that really the best thing they have going for them is to make the defense respect Jaden Daniels in the run game at all times. And they just really need to win through efficiency versus your true like Joe burrow, for example, it's like they're down. You know, like they're just going to drop back to throw it all every time. But burrow can do that. You know, so you get a little bit of insulation in my opinion, having Jaden Daniels there, kind of the same thing, you know, with the dolphins this year, I expect them that even if they're trailing to honestly not change their offense much.

32:51And again, coming back to the defensive stuff we talked about earlier, defenses are dictating that, you know? And so there's still just tempting the offense to run. In the best way, you know, you guys, everybody listening sees this. Like you've watched your favorite team and I'm a Cowboys fan and I live here in Dallas. And so I've grown up a Cowboys fan. But like the last several years, even though the Cowboys had a good pass rush when my comparisons was there, like when another team would just be running it on them. Like it just, and I think this happens like to the coordinators too, you're just like, all right, so we got to stop this. Like this is so annoying. Like just these five and six yard gashes at a time. And so doing that with the commanders, making the other team respect that, I think some teams will be more disciplined than others. That keeps, you know, that keeps GameScript slightly more intact for a guy like Bill. Let me see where you're at. I made a trade basically almost straight across for these two players in Dynasty recently. So I'll see what you think. Just for 2026, you don't have to make a big dynasty statement. But just for 2026, who else scores who?

33:51Rashad White or Chris Rodriguez? Man. Not good. That's really close. It's super close to. Yeah, I mean, two different things, right? One is more the passing down guy. Here's what I would say. I do think the higher ceiling belongs to Rashad White because theoretically, right? He's got the every down skill set. It's not like he's been great with it. No, he has shown that he can do every player pass down. Yeah, he can play inside the five. He's got the size to do that. So I think the ceiling is higher for Rashad White. If I had to pick like the baseline, like just the median projection, I have them right next to each other. There you go. I have projections right now. That's why I was like in the tank. There was a little bit of a juice on the side and I got Rashad White. I think I got Joe Flacco and I have borough. So it made sense, you know, in dynasty. Yeah, it was okay fine. I'll do it. So there you go. So yeah, super close. I think that's your answer to that tells me that we're on the same page because I was

34:52like, I rather the almost the ceiling or the, what am I looking for? The ceiling or floor out of this particular running back on this particular build, right? And that was where I was like, I guess I'd rather have the upside. So I went, I went with the deal. But anyway, that's, that's where that is. I like it. Let's circle back to this Baltimore passing game and, you know, I know you do projections. I would ask kind of in general what your projections are here, but also just factoring in range of outcomes, right? Do you think there's any upside possibilities outside of, of Z-Flowers? I think we look at this. We say, okay, Z-Flowers, we know what he is. He actually has a very good floor heading into this year. But I have so many questions, obviously with Declan Doyle being there, you know, his, you know, no longer having, you know, Isaiah likely, will they play more, you know, 11? There's so many things go through my mind. What are your thoughts here? No, I'm with you. A lot of questions around the Ravens. A team I'm very excited to see how they look early in the year to see, you know, how I project them going forward.

35:52Right now I am anticipating they use less of the heavy tight end stuff than what we saw before, which Monk and absolutely loves it. You know, Declan Doyle does come from Ben Johnson who used the 12 stuff quite a bit last year with Colson, Lovlin and Colcomat. So they'll still do it. But I think they also signaled to us, you know, even though they weren't super high picks, but going out and getting lame, getting Sarat, making that double dip, they did add two tight ends, but they were in the later rounds with Hibner and Josh Kuehves. So it's, I think it's going to be a multiple offense, but I think the secret honestly is like, can Jacobi Lane, like keep what he's had going from training camp going? And if so, that gives him another really strong red zone weapon and Rashad Bateman, you know, we'll probably, he's going to start the years of Stargur. I think Lane eventually takes him over at some point this year, but there's been a lot of buzz about Rashad Bateman at Camp this year, but there's a lot of buzz about Rashad Bateman every year. And I'm just, you know, I've been hurt so many times. I will take him in the last round of a best ball draft. I will say he's going to get to move around way more than he ever has. Bateman will. So maybe that helps him this year, but I think, you know, Jacobi Lane, if he, if he can

36:56be a really good red zone weapon, because that's the thing with Z-Flowers, Z-Flowers, he can get you down the field and move you and Z-Flowers can do everything. He can beat you deep. He's honestly been, he was a little bit limited, honestly, in Monkton's offense. Right. But I think when you look at Lamar, like we know the ceiling is there. We've seen it twice where he's had these huge spike seasons in the passing game. And it comes back to like having this balance offense where, you know, teams have to risk, Derek Henry is not a guy that you want to give a run away. If you get a Derek Henry five yards, he's going to take 15. Yeah. And so 50, right? I mean, it's, yeah, or 50. Yeah. So I just, you know, good God. Could you imagine being a safety this 15 yards downfield and he's got a full head of steam. You're like, oh man, like I'm, I'm making a business decision or, you know, am I get yelled over the angle? Go for the angle. Yeah. And so, um, yeah, I think there's a lot of upside. I think it's tricky because like Declan Doyle's never called plays before. Right. And people are, or they're, oh man, Zay flowers going to be a, what was Zay flowers? It has already like been used more and more than like almost any other receiver over the last three years because Todd Monkum was already doing that.

37:57I think flowers is a good pick this year. I just think the narrative behind it's kind of wrong, which is, oh man, Declan Doyle's and I'm like, guys, if you looked at what Todd Monkum was already doing, was Zay flowers, all that stuff. I think the secret to Zay flowers is actually letting him do those things, but also let him work the deep area of the field because we've actually seen him be very successful at that. And Lamar is a good deep ball thrower and they've just barely missed on several pick plays over the last two years. And so I think there's a ceiling there was a flowers, but Jacobi Lane and the red zone because that's not, Zay flowers is not going to score like six or seven touchdowns in the red zone on most years. He's just not built for that. But if Lane can bring that aspect and then you've got that run game to go along with Lamar's dual thread ability, I haven't projected right around the middle of the league. I've been passing yards per game. I haven't projected as one of the better overall offenses. I have them as a top eight scoring offense. So I think there's a lot to like with the Ravens, but the question is like, how good can they be on the passing aspect? But again, the way defense is are making teams play, they have the, they have the approach

39:01that can spike for a massive, for a massive passing season and we have seen it from Lamar before. We have. And that's kind of my question is and you did a great job, Senator Dwayne. You've done the question, but the question that I'm asking, I guess is outside of Henry Lamar and Zay, who's the guy, right? Because there's going to be somebody or it's Lane. Is it Lane or is it? It's Lane. It's Lane. Well, I like Andrews too. And so the only issue with Andrews is he hasn't looked as good the last two years. I started off with him as my tight end eight and redraft this year. I was super excited about likely being gone. I'm giving him more routes. The data was saying he's fallen off some though. And so but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt was coming off the tight rope, you know, a couple of years ago. And so you know, it takes some time to come back from that. But then all the reports from camp have been that he looks washed. And you know how hard it is to get reports from camp that someone looks washed. I mean, everybody really want to be, they're trying to blow everybody up.

40:02And so to be hearing these consistent negative things, I did have to move Andrews down. I've got him outside my top 12 now. So that's what makes me kind of lean to Lane. It could certainly be Andrews though. Sure. If the reports around Andrews and at camp are bad and I'm not there to personally see this stuff. So they could be wrong. Yeah. Either one of those guys could do it. But my gut is just lanes the guy that's been really good in camp. And so I think he's the one. Yeah. Sort of envision Lane doing the things that they were doing with. I say it likely because oftentimes likely was not lined up in line. You probably have to have it closer at the tip of your fingers than I do. So many of his routes were outweighed or in the slot or at least even sort of standing up close to the line. Like he was never, you know, hand in the dirt tight end guy anyway. And they would bring him in, you know, when known passing situations or goal line situations, you know, he had the very vivid memory of the one he just barely missed. I think it was week one last year. What? So I mean, but throwing those sort of jump balls in the back of the end zone, I think that becomes Lane.

41:03You know, and I think, you know, Lane and Sarat, you know, if you remember, last year they sort of reached into the fountain of youth to try and, you know, bring back Deandre Hopkins as a sort of security blank. And I think both Lane and Sarat are sort of providing some of that sort of, you know, run 10 yards and stop it. I'll throw it towards you when we absolutely need something, you know, and both good contested catch players, not to do one, everything to be a contested catch, but like they can play to the middle of the defense. They can play on the boundary. They can. And again, like once you get inside the 10, these are guys to have enough size to still body up. Like when you get the right read, you know, the quarterback can put it over there and see what happens. Yeah, it's funny because I sometimes think like, you know, if you told me Lane and Sarat ended with like, you know, under 50 targets each, I'd be like, yeah, of course, that's what if we should have seen that coming. Of course, there were going to be nobody's really happen, right? But you could also be like, you know, one of them, you know, had 10 touchdowns and 900 yards, they're like, we could have seen that coming.

42:05You know, so it's, it's, there's all, I think there's just so much variance to that Baltimore situation. Um, let's hit this Arizona situation. I went back and forth, um, you know, with someone on Twitter today about the Tramack Bride situation. And I just don't think people are quite digesting how many routes Michael Wilson and Tramack Bride ran last year compared to what normal is in the NFL. They ran almost 700 routes. And that is not normal. And so of course, they got there on volume. Um, and I just, I have a, you know, a pretty big bet on Marvin Harrison Jr. just because of his, you know, to health of the king. I don't hate players. I hate ADPs. Uh, you know, and I think Marvin Harrison Jr. And all formats is being hated on to the point where I'm ready to buy back in. And I also think that just on par, he's going to be a better player than Michael Wilson. I don't hate Michael Wilson either. I just think that Marvin Harrison and better, all that saying, what do you, what do you

43:09think about the situation in Arizona? Yeah. So I'm not too worried about McBride. And, and the reason why is like I do the projections and I obviously, I'm not giving him all those routes he had from last year. I guess I haven't moved a really good route participation, but I do think under the floor, it's going to be a more balanced offense. We're going to see more running. They're going to be more, more willing to stick with that, even if they are trailing. I still have them though as one of the top passing teams. Absolutely. Now they're not, they're not going to be where they were last year. I think I've got them 6% down in their dropbacks per game. So it's, it's a situation where I still feel really good about McBride. And with him, it's like, okay, the touchdowns last year, people point two and they're like, okay, he scored 0.13, 0.8 per game. And then last year was his 0.65 touchdowns per game. But I could also make the argument that look, he averaged 71.6 and 72.9 yards per game. And historically, tight ends that have done that, they score closer to 0.4 to 0.5 touchdowns per game. So the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, he was due for positive regression last year.

44:10He sure was. Now he's going to be due for a little bit of negative regression. But I think still he lands in the middle. And the other thing I look at is that the year before when he didn't score the touchdowns in a PPR anyway, 15.6 fantasy points per game last year was 18.6 15.6 man from your tight end is still really good. So I like McBride on around three. I think people are a little woke on it like and I don't know if I have bowers as my tight end one. I take hours at the end of round two. But I definitely see a world where we look back and we're like, and try McBride just out scored rock bowers again. Easily. I regard him in round three. So I like him. I am not as bullish on Wilson as you. I really did like him as a prospect. The rookie supermodel's low end comp though form was courtland Sutton, which is kind of where I'm at with him at this point. And having to play outside, he is going to get he's going to get a more diverse route tree this year. So I think there is the potential right for him to be unlocked. If he was going in like round seven, I would probably get him a lot more in redraft. The main reason I haven't is just like the some of the tight ends and the quarterbacks

45:10and stuff that go in that same range. I'm really into them. And so it's where Marv goes is a tough spot for me. And I will say this with Michael Wilson, well, he wasn't a great prospect for me on the model. Bad first two years in the league didn't really show anything and historically guys that have done that have not been good. But I will say the thing that they are doing with him is like, he's the guy that's getting to move all over. And it's not so much that I think Michael Wilson is going to smash. But like if they're doing that stuff with Wilson, it's just enough that like Harrison, if I thought it was just Harrison and McBride, I would feel a lot better about Marv, but then it's like they're scheming up Wilson. And so Wilson, even if he's not great, he's going to get some easy looks off of that. And so I'm kind of just avoiding those two receivers to be honest. Oh, for 20 seconds. And I'm taking no pride. Yeah. Now long term, yes, I still think that Marv is the overall bet with the best price tag right now and dynasty. Yeah. Yeah, I tend to agree because people will even ask me, what do you know, if you're so

46:11in on Marv, what do you think this year? And I'm like, I don't know about this year. You know, it's sort of a little bit of a cop out. But yeah, I mean, it could look, this could be a huge transition year where they're terrible. And then they go out and get, you know, a quarterback and it all changes next year potentially. You know, who knows? Obviously, I'm not projecting Arizona to like take some big leap. But in terms of just, you know, things change is all I'm saying. They're protected to be pretty bad. So they may have a chance with the quarterback thing. I mean, they're not going to have the three, throw the three darts at it like, like the jets, you know, but yeah, there's a chance. There's definitely a chance. And again, to be clear, I am not necessarily fading McBride in terms of like, oh, I think he's bad. I just think that, yeah, you're right. 15 fantasy points are supposed to 18. What awesome, he's awesome. I, you know, I always temper these things with, you know, if he, if everybody was saying, oh, he's, you know, he's, he's done. He's never going to do this again. Hold on, he's awesome. You know, I'd be pushing back against that. I just think that sometimes we get like, you know, little, little over, you know, over our skis with these things.

47:13And then Brian was to be clear, like in redraft, he was overpriced to start like this offseason. Like he was going in the beginning of round two. And I was just like, yeah, I was like, no, I can't, I can't do that versus the backs and receivers in that range. But then like this thing kind of took over that's pushing him into the middle of the third round. I've gotten him at the end of round three in redraft stuff. And, and that's where I'm just like, yeah, I know you're not saying is a bad player, but that's where I'm just like, okay, fine. 15 fantasy points per game from my tight end. I'll take it. Let me ask you this. I mean, how many more routes do you have? Tramik bride running this year than Colston, Loveland? I, my point is I think Colston, Loveland has as much upside, maybe not as much floor as Tramik, but I think it has as much upside as Tramik, but at a much cheaper price. And of course, in dynasty, he's still cheaper even in dynasties. For me, Colston, Loveland clearly ahead of Tramik bride in dynasty. And maybe this year, I'm not saying I'd project him there. I still would have Tramik bride projected ahead, but pretty close. Yeah, I've got him really similar in route.

48:15So I've got Colston Loveland at an 86% route share last year. He was at 63%. But we saw a once commit. Once he took over for commit, like he was really up in the, in the 80s. And the thing I, I'm with you on the upside of Loveland, like he's my most drafted tight end in the first four rounds of fantasy drafts. The challenge is now McBride has fallen to a point to where he and Loveland go back to back. Right. It's like my pride then Loveland's off the board. So I used to be almost to be or something two or three. Yeah, early on, it was like so easy. And I will say I don't take even McBride all the time in round three because of the tradeoff costs in round three or different than in round four. And so if I can get Loveland in round four and I can pass on McBride and maybe I secure another running back all I can the middle of round three in redraft, then I'm definitely willing to do that. So their routes are actually really close. I mean, Colson Loveland and McBride are not very far apart. Am I overall projections and fantasy points per game? So really like both players, like McBride now, these priced where he is. And if I don't get him, I'm happy to go Loveland.

49:16And if I miss that, I'm just going Tucker craft, like I'm all on Tucker craft. Okay, this wouldn't be a fantasy football show if I wasn't asking about Parker Washington. The, I mean, I can't get away from this Parker Washington talk. No, you can't. It's true, man. You can't drive me. You're not going to do it. So we're not going to do it here either. We're going to put you on the spot and you know, just ask basically, you know, how do you feel about this Parker Washington situation? How do you feel about how things are going to go with the Jaguar's wide receiver hierarchy, considering that, you know, BTJ still is a high end first round pick. What are your thoughts here? Yeah, I think a lot of this like comes back to the roles. Like so there's two ways to look at this one. And honestly, I was really torn on Parker Washington because if you look at prospects that have been similar to him, so taken in the same range of NFL draft and really never doing anything over their first two years. And even in the third year, it didn't, didn't break out until the second half. If you go back and look at the comparisons for that, like guys, they're, they're not good. There's a lot of names here. You're not going to lie. Contra Renfro, Rachard Matthews, Marquis Goodwin, Marcus Wheaton, Russell Gage and

50:19Joanne Jennings. And so when I see that list, I'm like, man, that's, that's not ideal. That's not, not, not, not all those guys were terrible moving forward. Some of those guys were serviceable, but they weren't guys winning your fantasy league. But then it's like you do have to look at like the intensity of his breakout over the second half of last year and the fact that he's paired with Liam Cohen, who had Chris Godwin scoring almost 20 fantasy points per game the year before whenever he was playing the same role. Now Godwin's a very good player, a better prospect than what Parker Washington was. So I'm not saying that's, that's perfect. But when I look at Washington and then you just hear the consistent drum beat like from camp and the main thing that I've been listening for is like, is when Travis Hunter is rotating onto the field, it's he's not doing it in camp for Parker Washington. He's doing it for Brian Thomas Jr. They want to use Travis Hunter in a more vertical role, like what he was used in college. And so that was basically the green light for me. And I did move him up a tier and my tier rankings. I moved him up into tier five. I've got him at the very bottom of it. I think that Washington and redraft this year, he's in play in round five.

51:22I love him and Christian Watson a lot in that range. When you look at him, it's just like again, it's back to all this bigger picture stuff we've been talking about. He's the guy they're going to move all around. And he's got some size 510 204, right? We're not talking about 180 pounder. And so yeah, I mean, it's, it's, look, he's a tricky one. It's a boom bus. It is. We're having to take him in round five. It's a very boom bus kind of pick. So if people want to shy away from it, I don't necessarily blame you. I've definitely been, I grabbed a lot of shares when it was cheaper. But I'm still drafting him in the fifth round. I'm not doing it every time, but I still draft him quite a bit. Do I need to introduce you to Tuxedo risk? Okay. The Tuxedo risk is when I sound of it already is when you, is when you look back on something, go, we should have seen this coming from a mile away. And it comes from the movie stepbrothers. Remember stepbrothers? Yeah. Okay. When they show up in the Tuxedos and Seth Rogen is interviewing them.

52:22And he's about to hire them. And then they fart. Remember the fart? And he's like, yeah, fart in here. Like and then he says, Seth Rogen says when he goes, yeah, now the Tuxedos don't seem as cool anymore. Right? Yeah. It was like you shouldn't know when these two idiots walked in with the Tuxedos. You should have known. We, we, we, we've, we've talked about. So Parker Washington would be the one where if he just ends with like, you know, 90 targets, you know, 70 catches, you know, 700 yards. I was interesting about him. Is either way it goes. Right? If he busts, there will be all the people, you know, and I, we, you and I would love prospect profile kind of stuff. They're going to look, he clearly wasn't talented enough for you guys to be pushing him into round five of drafts. Right. But if he booms, it's going to be, hey, all you people that were just focused on the prospect profiles, like you should have known that this player who did so great last year now in Leigh M. Cohen scheme and getting to do basically the offense is like designed around that position. Yeah. You should have seen that. So it's like either way.

53:22That's right. And the middle ground is where I try to get to, you know, and I will lean more to the profile or versus, you know, the situation, you know, in different scenarios, the risk with Washington is still very crowded. I mean, you do have BTJ. You do have to Kobe Myers who they just paid. They also just re up Brent and Strange. Um, and then you do have Travis Hunter, you know, who they want to get some playing time on offense. So it, the way it goes wrong is it's like the new version of the Packers. Yes. Where we could never for all those years, I think we get some breakouts from the Packers offense this year now that it's condensed, but they would rotate all these guys. And it's like, oh, great. Like, yeah, it's like every third week, one of them has a good week, but we don't know which one it's going to be. Yeah. That's, that's the concern. So I know you got to get out of here. We'll, we'll get you out on, on, on these rapid fire on these rapid fire rapid fire. First one is Patriots backfield. Uh, what are your thoughts real quick? Give me, give me a minute on Patriots. Yeah. Still want Trevion long term. Like we saw that he can break leagues last year. Right. But for the people that are looking at it and they're like, Ramondri is going to start

54:23the season at the starter. I think you're also right. Two things. These two things can be right. But I don't think there's a scenario where Ramondri Stevenson breaks my fantasy league and I look back at it and go, man, wish I would have had that. And now Trevion's is, his price is falling enough, which I hated early on. I was like, man, I really want Trevion Henderson, but people are like so rabid about it. Like I couldn't get him. Well, now he's at a price where I like it. So he's still the best long term bet, obviously in dynasty. And I still think you're trying to win a redraft league this year and you're just looking for a player. Cause imagine if Ramondri Stevenson went down tomorrow, Trevion's and everybody's top six rankings next week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If Trevion goes down, Ramondri is going to be a mid-range running back to that's true difference. Yeah. That is the difference. Uh, okay. Ready for this one. Yeah. We don't like the outside X. We don't like wide receivers attached to terrible quarterbacks. All right. We like carnal tape. Why do we like carnal? I mean, do we have a problem in Tennessee as I guess what I'm getting it? Yeah. We have a massive problem. Uh, bad offensive line. We have massive quarterback question marks.

55:24Uh, and we have a player that's going to have to win in the hardest way possible, which I think that carnal tape is fully capable of doing. But he's definitely great here. Like in this spot. So yeah, I don't have a lot of carnal tape this year. I think in dynasty, if people start souring on him, like, you know, maybe there's a price, right, where things become, you know, something where you're like, all right. Now I want to buy on this. But I don't, I don't have high hopes for 2026. Yeah. I'm with you. Okay. We're going to end with my boy. Um, I mean, we could talk for hours. I talked for a long period of time with, um, Andrew Cooper last week about the tight end profiles, but basically, Ron big, Watson, Ron big, Gadsden, dead or alive. You know those pieces in your closet, you find yourself wearing on repeat. Those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy. And that's what quince does best because you know, I love T shirts. And then I went to quince and I found truly sturdy, truly comfortable T shirts that look great. Quince focuses on high quality wardrobe staples made with premium materials,

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58:30So if they're in a comeback mode, I think Gaseki and those games like could be like a DFS kind of value and a should out kind of thing. He's definitely a very good player. I just think right now for this year, though, he's super tricky. Yeah, it's very tricky. I don't like it all. It's difficult to understand, but you mentioned. It sucks because he's one of the people on those with the most excited about going to this off season and we're excited about what Mike McDaniel's doing for everyone else in the offense. But what do you do? I was excited for Darren Waller last year. Definitely had some, some opportunities in a Mike McDaniel system. I also think, look, you know, Charlie Kohler isn't going to be running any scenes. Okay. He's not. Now maybe he just just a killer because he's going to be the guy out there and what could be their base offense. You know what I mean? It's brutal. It's brutal. All right. I ended on a down note. Look at that. So no joke. I'm still like that's the long term. I do. I do. I do. I asked you was fantastic. Yeah. Exactly. I think he's still a buy in dynasty, especially right now because he's so cheap and everybody

59:33thinks he's absolutely dead. I don't think he's dead. I agree. No, he's not dead in dynasty. Hey, man, thanks for coming on. I know you had a finite period of time. I could talk to you all day. I could listen to you all day and I will be listening to you all season. Tell everybody where you're at, of course, I already shared, but anything special that you want to mention, he shows that I'm not. Yeah. I didn't mention. Yeah. You guys can check all my work out over at fantasylife.com. You can use the code Dwayne, DW, AIN, 20 to get 20% off. My projections are there. My rankings are there. All my articles, my tears, perfect draft strategy. For redraft this year, whether you're Yahoo, sleeper, ESPN, I update that every week. So I know another big draft weekend is coming up. And then you can check us out over on YouTube on the fantasy life channel or anywhere you get your podcasts, all that kind of stuff. Fantasy football is life is the one where I'm doing multiple per week, having different guests on drafting a lot of teams, just so you guys can kind of see and we test different things out and see how the draft goes and you back, whoa, I don't want my draft to go that way. And we may be feeling the same way, but we test some of that stuff out for you guys. And we put some real money on the line for it, you know, $300 entries.

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1:01:37I appreciate all that you do, all the work, you know, you guys doing your, I love this space where the models are different. You know, and there's different, you know, we align a lot of things, not on everything. And I think the thing is like we see NFL teams like they miss on this stuff, you know, too. So it's, it's, it's all just a process and it's, we're all really like trying to help each other, you know, learn from each other. I appreciate you having me on. I appreciate it. It's supposed to be fun. Cheers to that. On behalf of everybody here at the undrafted on behalf of everybody here at OTC, on behalf of the greatest podcast producer to ever walk the earth, Mr. Michael P Duncan. You have been joined by Dwayne, the rock, McFarlane. I'm Jack Falcone and we are out.

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