The Truth About War

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passion project and it means a lot to me. It means a lot to her. Okay, so let's get into the show

today because we got a good one. Obviously, as everybody knows, the US Israeli-led war against Iran

is still raging on. The hawks were at celebrating that the Ayatollah got taken out. On day one,

and what's followed since that is four days of Iranian response attacks, clearly indicating

that the regime has not been changed despite what Secretary of War Pete Hegseth told you.

But yesterday, something very interesting happened. And I saw a bunch of people on Twitter

were saying like, well, Dave's got his show set for tomorrow and you were not wrong. I certainly do.

So, you know, there's an old saying, an old proverb, I believe you would call it,

that you guys have probably heard before where they say some version of the first casualty of war

is always the truth. And it's a saying that has persisted, I think, for like, I believe it's

traced back to like ancient Rome or something like that or Greece. I'm not sure. But I believe it's

in the saying for like thousands of years. And there's a reason why that is the case because wars

are almost always sold off lies. In fact, it might be the case that they're always sold off lies,

but certainly almost always. And there's a reason for that. You know, there's a reason why truth is

the first casualty of war because if the truth was told and the people knew the real reasons for war,

they would almost always come to oppose it and hate the politicians who are lying them into that war.

That's why they don't tell the truth. That's why they lie. They have to give you a reason for

the war that you would maybe support. If they told you the real reason for it, you would never

support the war. And this is true, by the way, even for just wars. It's often the case that

there's still war propaganda and the politicians still lied to you. You know, in the United States

of America, I would define the revolutionary war as a just war. I think there's probably

there's probably no more clear cut example of a just war, a war that can be defended. Then an

army invades your country and you fight to repel that army. You know, I personally, I'm one of

these libertarians who believes in silly things like human beings have rights. And I believe that

if you're ruled by a far away power and a group of people say we don't want to be ruled by you

anymore, we'd like to govern ourselves. I think that's their God-given right. And if you send an

army in to crush them, they have every right to meet that with defensive violence. As Pat,

you kind of would say force rooted in justice and backed by moral courage.

But there were still a lot of there's still a lot of war propaganda with the revolutionary war.

There were all types of like conspiracy theory claims that were made by those who wished to fight

it about how like you can go back and read about this stuff, but about how the Church of England

was going to come in and shut down every church in America. And like there was all types of

hype that they made, which there's just no evidence that the king was ever thinking about doing any

of that shit. But you know, this is how it is in war. You know, war is serious. You got to get people

to go out and risk their lives and then kill other people. And then oftentimes kill innocent people.

So you need to get them going. And again, there's a reason why all of these, like every single war,

if you want to look at any of them, there's a World War One was sold based off lies. Vietnam was

sold based off lies. Obviously, everyone here knows, I mean, everyone knows Iraq and Afghanistan

and Syria and Libya and all these, but it's all sold off lies. And that's no different than this

where the 12-day war with Iran was sold off lies. This war with Iran has been sold off lies,

which we've been going through for the last couple days and we'll go through some more.

But something odd happened yesterday. Is that somebody told the truth? You're not supposed to do

that. You're not supposed to do that at the beginning of a war. You don't tell the truth,

but that's what the Secretary of State slash national security advisor Marco Rubio did yesterday.

He told the truth. Now, people are, because obviously when you tell the truth at the beginning of a

war, that's a very dangerous proposition, especially when it's coming from an authoritative figure,

like the national security advisor or Secretary of State. Now, because the truth came out and it was

just too, too, too, agree, just for many people to not say. People started running cover for this

right away. Oh, that's not really what he was saying. Marco Rubio came out in cleft. No,

no, no, this war was going to happen either way. He was just talking about the timing,

all bullshit, man. He said it. And we're going to play this clip right now. I just want you guys

to listen very carefully to what exactly Marco Rubio is saying here, because he's admitting,

I mean, I'm not exaggerating when I say that if I said this or if Candace Owens said this or

if Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson said this, the response would be that this is a anti-Semitic

conspiracy theory. Let's listen to Marco Rubio's words. I want you guys to listen to this

very carefully, and then we're going to discuss. Here's Marco Rubio.

I've been asked is why now? Well, there's two reasons why now. The first is it was abundantly clear

that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going

to respond and respond against the United States. The orders had been delegated down to the field

commanders. It was automatic and in fact, it bear to be true because in fact, within an hour of

the initial attack on the leadership compound, the missile forces in the south and in the north

for that matter had already been activated to launch. In fact, those had already been pre-positioned.

The third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first

before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties. And so the President made the very

wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would

precipitate an attack against the American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively

go after them before they launch those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even

higher those killed. And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that

and didn't. So there you have it. Did you hear that? We knew it was a certainty that Israel

was going to attack. And we knew that Iran was going to respond with retaliatory attacks to

Israel, but also to us. That is quite an admission. Because if that's true, then what Marco

Rubio is saying is that Israel got us into this war. Israel was going to do something that,

yes, but by the way, obviously, this is not a shock to anyone who listens to this show.

But the shocking part is that Marco Rubio is admitting that he's saying straight up that Israel

was going to do something that was going to result in our boys dying. And we knew that.

And so we had no choice but to join with Israel and get into this war. A war that the American

people do not want. A war that many of the top generals did not want. And a war that at least

at some point, at least previously, Donald Trump didn't want because he himself predicted what a

disaster it would be. A war that Tulsi Gabbard has spent a career pretending she doesn't want.

A war that JD Vance has pretended he doesn't want. A war that Bobby Kennedy. I know he's at the

health department, but whatever. There's other people in the government there. All right, guys,

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let's get back into the show. Everybody going into this is really important to make this point

that like they are actually, however this war ends up turning out. I mean, look, as we titled

the episode yesterday, it's already a disaster. It's a disaster right now. The latest numbers are

that I saw is reported over 550 Iranians dead. Haven't been able to get good numbers on the Israeli

casualties thus far. Just like five Americans have died not counting. The I think it was three

and like a dozen wounded in Austin in that blowback terrorist attack.

So, however this goes from here, all of these political leaders, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and

JD Vance and Pete Hague Seth and all of them, they are in many ways more guilty and responsible

than George W. Bush and those guys. Because these, unlike George W. Bush, he at least had the excuse

as dumb as it was that 9-11 changed everything. Yes, we used to have these views. George W. Bush,

if you remember in the year 2000, for those of you guys who are old enough to remember, he ran

on a humble foreign policy, no nation building, no policing of the world. The military should only

be used to fight and win defensive wars is what George W. Bush, the candidate said. But as he was

leading the country into 20 year catastrophic wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, he said 9-11 changed

everything. This is different now. We got attacked and the attack came out of Afghanistan and it was

aided by Saddam Hussein. Okay, well, the first one was true, the second one was a lie. But regardless,

he at least had something to say. These guys have nothing. They have nothing. No major thing has

changed. We haven't been attacked. We don't live in a new world and they can't even pretend we live in

a new world. They're just saying, now Israel, Israel was going to do it anyway. And therefore,

we had no choice. Just for more on this before we really break this down, let's go to Mike Johnson,

the Speaker of the House. He also had some comments on this yesterday.

To me, the most critical point is that this was a defensive measure, a defensive operation,

and why is that? I took some notes and this is not classified. So I'll tell you what I think is

important. Israel was determined to act in their own defense here with or without American support.

Why? Because Israel faced what they deemed to be an existential threat. Iran was building missiles

at a radical and a rapid clip to the point where our allies in the region could not keep up.

As you know, Iran has long vowed to take out Israel, wipe it off the map, and they have long seen

that as a critical threat to their very existence. Because Israel was determined to act with or without

the US, our Commander-in-Chief and the administration and the officials that just named had a very

difficult decision to make. They had to evaluate the threats to the US, to our troops, to our

installations, to our assets and the region and beyond. And they determined because of the exquisite

intelligence that we had that if Israel fired upon Iran, it took action against Iran to take out

the missiles, then they would have immediately retaliated against US personnel and assets.

We have troops in harm's way and we have many Americans in the region and that was of a great

concern. If we had waited for all of those eventualities to take place, the consequences of

inaction on our part could have been devastating. We don't know at what magnitude, but you can

assume because it is common sense that if Iran had begun to fire all of their missile arsenal,

short and mid-range missiles at our personnel and our assets and our installations,

we would have suffered staggering losses. And if we had waited to respond before acting first,

then those losses would have been far greater than if we had done what we did.

Okay, so there'd be even more Americans dead. So here you have, okay, just to be clear,

we have the Secretary of State, National Security Advisor and the Speaker of the House

confirming that this is the reason we went to war with Iran. We went to war with Iran because

Israel had decided that they were going to attack Iran and we had solid intelligence that the

Iranian response was not only going to be to send rockets and missiles back at Israel,

but it would also be to target our bases, our soldiers, and we would have had a lot more of them dead.

So yeah, we got a couple planes shot down and a few Americans dead and a dozen or two injured,

but it would have been worse than this. This is the answer they're giving. Now of course,

the major problem with this answer is that it just leads to many more questions than it does answers.

And in fact, this is kind of right at the heart of the political dynamic in America over the

last two plus years. Really, really, I mean, this is something that people like me and Scott Horton

and our camp of libertarian non-interventionists have been talking about for much longer than that,

but the American people broadly have really been talking and thinking about this since October 7th

of 2023. And the thing is it's like this, like this is the reason. It is the heart of the reason

why the American people are essentially forced to speculate about what exactly the level of

Israeli control over United States politics is. And there are people who kind of like, you know,

specialize in scoffing at the people who speculate over this. Oh, you're a conspiracy theorist

or something like that. But it leaves no other option than for people to speculate about

the power of the Israel lobby, Blackmail operations, Allah, Jeffrey Epstein or something like that.

Maybe that's what was really going on here. How many of these people are compromised? How many of

them are threatened quite frankly? It leads people into, let's say, being quite hostile toward

Jewish people in general and certainly organized Jewish groups. And people speculate about how could

this be? Because with what Marco Rubio and Mike Johnson here are giving us, this makes absolutely

no fucking sense, right? Like, there's a huge missing link that they're not telling us about if

this is the story, which I got to say I believe it is. Because how could it possibly be that

our client state, that the state that is completely and totally dependent on us for their survival

would be in a position where they tell us, well, hey, whether you like it or not, we're going to do

it. And if that gets some of your people killed too bad, like, how is that freaking possible without

another layer there that explains how our political class is completely controlled by this foreign

government? Because what we know on paper, right? What we know for a fact is that, just think about

this for a second. Israel's gotten like, I don't know, like $30 billion from the US since October 7th.

Normally, they just get their standard four plus billion a year guaranteed with a sweeter deal

than any other country gets. It's much, much more than that though. There's also an incredible

amount of diplomatic cover that the US gives to Israel. Because, look,

hatred of Israel has spiked in the last few years. And because of the genocide in Gaza,

you know, people are paying attention to this more than ever before. But the whole world has

hated Israel since way before this. The entire world's position, short of like three countries.

The entire world's position is that Israel is been occupying the West Bank and Gaza and the

Golan Heights for nearly 60 years. The entire international opinion is that they're guilty of

heinous war crimes and human rights abuses and that the settlements are illegal and that they're,

you know what I mean? It's just the entire world. But they can always count on the US to veto

UN resolutions. Condemning Israel will protect them against the world courts. You know what I'm

saying? So like we protect this country in so many ways. Also, it's not just the money we give

to Israel. We also give money to all of the Sunni sock puppet states that surround Israel,

all the Gulf states and the non-Gulf states, you know? So like Egypt and that, they don't

Egypt is the second largest recipient of US foreign aid after Israel. Why is that?

When did that deal start? Okay, it started at Camp David in the 70s after Egypt and Israel had

fought four wars in like 25 years and they've never been to war since. Yeah, we pay Egypt to not

fuck with Israel. We pay Jordan to not fuck with Israel. We pay Saudi Arabia and the UAE,

by rain, we bribe all these countries to not fuck with Israel. That's how we get them to the sea.

That's how we got them to the Abraham Accords. Because we bribed all of them off. That's how we

get them to have maybe not be official allies, but have diplomatic relations and certainly not the

enemies. And that's the incentive for these regimes. Because if you want to know, say like the

population of Egypt, like forget the government, right? We're talking about the people,

the people of Egypt, the people of Jordan, the people of Lebanon, the people of Saudi Arabia,

the people of the United Arab Emirates. Okay? Those people oppose Israel at roughly 100% rates.

If you want to go through any of those countries and ask people about how they feel about what

the Israelis have been doing to the Palestinians, believe it or not, they're not for it. Okay?

And so these governments are despite the wishes of their people being friends with Israel.

And they're doing that because, well, the most powerful government in the history of the world

will give you a whole bunch of money if you're friends with them and you're on their enemies list

if you're not. So that's a pretty strong incentive. But if you remove that, the incentive is for them

to not. The incentive is for them to stick up for the Palestinians. All of that, I haven't even

mentioned this. Right now, during this war, and of course, after the 12-day war, and of course,

this was true after just before the 12-day war when Israel murdered an Iranian in Syria,

when Iran starts launching missiles back at Israel, they rely on the US to help but shoot down

those missiles. We literally protect them from the response to this. And, and then also, you know,

like after that, that, you know, when they killed the Iranian in Syria that I'm referencing

from last year, there it was also Saudi Arabia and other countries helped them too, because we

bribe them too. Not because Israel bribes them too, Israel is the fucking money to bribe them too.

I mean, just think about what's being said here, that there is a, there is a client state,

a welfare state of ours in the Middle East, that we can't control even when it means they're

going to drag us into a war that the entire administration promised they wouldn't get you into,

that they know damn well at least has the risk of a catastrophic ending that would be terrible for

this country and terrible for those people, but we can't stop a puny little country in the Middle

East that is the size of New Jersey with around the same population. You're telling me New Jersey,

just bossed around the United States of America. This makes no sense whatsoever. It only

leads to so many more questions. If this is true, then there must be some other element of control

to this. How, how is it possible that like they almost say it as a given, right? The way that,

that Rubio and, and Mike Johnson are saying it here are like, well, look, dude, Israel was going to

attack, and so essentially the way they're positioning this is we had two options. Option one was we

sit back while Israel attacks, and then we do nothing when they, you know, when there's the response,

and you know, that's that, and then more of our boys die, or option two, you know, the lesser of

these two options, the lesser evil of these two options is we join Israel in this attack, and then

we can at least be prepared for the response and, you know, whatever. But what about fucking

option three? We tell them, hell no, you're not doing that. Are you out of your fucking mind?

You're going to launch a war that we don't want to. That's going to get our boys killed. Sit down.

You're our bitch client state. If you even think about doing this, don't expect any protection

from the rockets coming back at you. Please, if this was any other country, you'd say, look at for

some rockets from us. I'm not advocating that, but this is, this is the United States of America

military we're talking about here. What do you mean you're going to launch a war that's going to

implicate us and get our boys killed? You out of your mind, but we wouldn't even have to threaten

Israel with any military action. We just go, okay, well, guess what? You do that, and you're never

getting another dime from us. You're never getting any more logistical support from us.

You're never getting a UN resolution vetoed from us. And you know what? We're going to tell all our

sock puppet states in the region. We don't care if you're friends with Israel. You guys want to

stick up for the Palestinians? Go ahead. I mean, just saying that, like if there was the ability to

say that would obviously have Netanyahu go, oh, sorry for bothering you, sir, won't ever happen

again. And there's no war. Like with what we know on paper, it's insane. It's just absolutely

insane to to pretend that the leverage would be in any other in any other situation, right? Like

it just doesn't make any sense at all. Minus some other type of control that you guys aren't telling

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All right, let's get back into the show. Now, as far as the, the other aspect to this, which

really just doesn't make sense is that look, Iran was at the negotiating table. Both in the 12-day

war and in this war, when this happened, they were at the negotiating table. They were trying to

negotiate this away. There is absolutely no question. And I mean, literally, there is nobody who

pays attention to this stuff who reads about this, who's honest, who won't tell you Iran didn't

want this war. They didn't want the 12-day war. They didn't want this war. They've been signaling

this forever. And so if it's the case that Iran doesn't want this war and that Israel, or excuse me,

if it's the case that Iran doesn't want this war and you're telling us now that if Israel attacked

them, they were going to respond to both of us. Well, let's examine that for a second. So it does

make sense that Iran would treat an Israeli first strike in Israeli, you know, aggressive

active war as a war from both the United States and Israel, right? Because, well, hey, we've

been coordinated every other time we're doing something and we jointly fought a war against the

Iranians last summer. And so they would assume that this is the beginning of a war from both of you

guys. Unless we told them it wasn't, I mean, it seems like all it would take would be us to tell

Iran that like, hey, just so you know, Israel's about to attack you, we did not authorize it,

we do not want to be in a war with you. But if you respond by killing any of our boys, then we're at

war with you. So respond to Israel all you want to, but just so you know, we're not catching

their back and we're not with them anymore where we do not want this war with you. There is it is

just not plausible at all that Iran still would have gone and killed our guys. Look, I mean,

looking what they did after the 12-day war, they've been over backward to not kill any of our

guys because they didn't want it because they're, look, they're getting lit up right now and they

didn't want this. Why did the Ayatollah make that decision? Well, I don't know. He's dead now. So

it kind of makes sense why he didn't want it, right? So the only answer here, the only thing that

makes what Rubio and Mike Johnson are saying plausibly makes sense is what? That that's not an option.

It's not an option for us to say we're not with Israel anymore. It's not an option for us to say

no, Israel. We will give you all the support in the world. You just can't do this one thing.

You just can't do this one thing. You know, I'm reminded again, I know I love bringing this this

story up because I just, I think it's like a microcosm for the whole thing. But if you remember,

there was one time ever, really the only time I've ever heard of you as president say this,

these words. There was one time ever where Donald Trump said that he would cut off funding

to Israel. So he had said that he will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank. And then he was

in an interview with Politico and they asked him about that. They said, hey, you said you wouldn't

allow Israel to annex the West Bank. Well, what are you going to do if they do it? And he goes,

I'd cut off all support and cut off all support for them if they did that. And then JD Vance

visited Israel. And the Knesset, the Israeli equivalent of Congress or their version of Congress,

the Knesset voted on a resolution to annex the West Bank the day that JD Vance was visiting

Israel. And it passed. They voted yes. I'm sorry, you cannot tell. They did that intentionally

because the vice president was in the country. And because that was the red line that this

administration, this, the most pro Israel administration in US history, they had one red line.

And they made it a point to humiliate our vice president. That was a message that they sent.

And what the fuck is that? What is that message? I mean, I don't know. I don't think it's speculating

that much to go. He had the messages. You don't have the option to do that. That's not an option.

Clearly, clearly, it is not an option for the United States of America to say no to Israel,

to say, will stop supporting you then. Well, why is that not an option? Can anyone give an answer

for that? There is no official answer for that. And that's what leads to people speculating.

And that's what leads to a rise in, you know, people not like in Jews very much. That's what leads to

a rise in conspiracy theories because what the fuck else explains this other than some type of

conspiracy? You're telling me that an administration stacked with people who all warned against what

a disaster this war would be. You know, the disaster that we're witnessing right now is what

everyone who was against this was warning about. And they still did it because the option was do it

or fucking cut off Israel. And obviously, that's not an option.

You know, this war is very, very unpopular right now. The latest polling that I've looked at

is about 25%, about 25% of Americans support this war. Democrats and liberals left us,

obviously, completely oppose it, independence completely oppose it, young people completely

oppose it. Probably the only group of people who support the war are are mega Trump supporters.

And there really is no question. And by the way, when I say they support it slim majority,

it's like 45, I'm just like 55%, 54%, something like that. A slight majority of Trump supporters

support this war. By the way, that's a really bad number for it to be at the very beginning of a war

when it hasn't even been that costly or that bloody yet. You know, like that's really bad.

They barely have majority support just for like comparison. The Afghanistan was enormously

popular amongst every demographic just about, I think every demographic. I mean, whatever,

maybe you could come up with one that didn't, but like it was enormously popular. And even the war

in Iraq, not as popular as Afghanistan, but it had like more than super majority support of the

American people, something like 70 plus percent of people supported it when that war first started.

This one is starting with 25% support. And for the one demographic,

Trump supporters who have a slight majority who are supporting this war,

look, they are supporting it for one reason and one reason only. And that's because Donald Trump

launched it. And that's just a fact. You know, it's one of the most frustrating things about

the Trump base is that there is this percentage. And honestly, I think those numbers right there

could almost like tell you the whole thing. There's a percentage. It's about 54% of Donald Trump's

base who just support him, just support whatever he does. Now, look, I mean, hey, there's another

45% there who are not saying they support it. There's of that number, I think it's like 30 something

percentage say they're not sure. Then there's a smaller percentage who outright opposed the thing.

But, you know, this is something that I obviously have talked about a lot because it's something that

that I think about quite a lot. It's a real interesting dynamic of politics today. But for, you know,

even in Donald Trump's first term, in the first four years that Donald Trump was president from

2017 to 2000 to January, 2021. So in his first four years, if you remember, the culture never,

like the pendulum didn't swing. You know, if you really in Obama's second term was when you

had like the rise of wokeism. And then when Donald Trump got elected, it's not like the cultural

pendulum swung back. And we got like, like, wokeism receded, wokeism went through the roof in Donald

Trump's first term. It was really in Biden's term that the pendulum started swinging back. But

essentially what had happened was that like the left, you know, I shouldn't even say the left,

the progressive democratic establishment had political control of the country and total control

of the culture for that entire time. You know, like, like Donald Trump's first term was the time

when it was roughest to be not a left wing or out in real life. You know, like if you were,

if you were on social media or you had a YouTube channel, this is when people were getting kicked

off like crazy. This is when, you know, like people were being protested and Antifa was showing

up to any, you know, right of center event. You know, so essentially as someone like me, right,

who's like a, a commentator on political and cultural events, it was like we had essentially

16 years of the progressive Democrats at the driver's seat. There was the eight years of

Barack Obama, the four years of Donald Trump and the four years of Joe Biden. And in that time,

they really fucking wrecked the country in a lot of very profound ways. We got the banker bailouts,

the failed Obama recovery. We got the expansion of the global war on terrorism to everywhere.

That was the Obama doctrine. A war is anywhere I want to in the world. I can bomb. Don't need

authorization from Congress or nothing. They gave us the worst economic recovery in American

history. They gave us the worst political and racial and cultural divides in modern American

history. They gave us insane wokeism, just poisoning children's minds. In many cases poisoning

their bodies as well. They also left us with the sickest nation in the world. They gave us COVID

lockdowns. They gave us rush a gate. They framed the sitting president for treason. They locked

down the country. They just ruined tens of millions of people's lives. They ran a senile

president. We could go through all of the things. Just unforgivable crimes. The democratic

establishment of the last 20 years should be launched to the fucking moon. They shouldn't be allowed

to live on earth anymore. Anyway, I guess the dynamic that I've talked about a lot on the show

before is that during that time, a resistance grew up and we were kind of honored to be a part of

that resistance. It was a cool thing to go out and take on these guys to get to... It's not like

whatever. There was hard work and a little bit of skill involved in it too, but there was also

a lot of good fortune and luck. I got to be the guy who was going and making the case against the

Ukraine war on Joe Rogan or debating Chris Cuomo or whatever. The whole kind of Trump base

was with us completely. There was no... A year ago, a year ago, I would say things like

the global war on terrorism is a complete failure. We should never fight any more regime change

wars of choice, wars of aggression. They bankrupted this country. Get nothing but cheers from

Trump supporters. They framed Donald Trump for treason. These people committed crimes against our

republic. They need to go to jail. Nothing but applause from Trump supporters. The lockdown

governor should be prosecuted. Fauci should be prosecuted. Nothing but support. All the

Epstein files should be released and anybody implicated should go to jail for it. Nothing but support.

Not anymore, not anymore, and that's for one reason and one reason only because Trump did it.

That's it. Let me ask you this. Let's say Joe Biden had ran on releasing the Epstein files,

and then he got in there and did exactly what Donald Trump would do. Would Dan Bongino be defending

him right now? Would any Trump supporter be defending him right now? No. Would they be calling it a

democratic hoax? No, they'd call it out for exactly what it is. You're covering up a scandal that

involved children being raped. That's what everyone would call it. Every Trump supporter would be

on board. And likewise, if Kamala Harris had won the presidency and she had launched this war in

a round, what would they all be saying right now? That entire 55 percent. Okay, minus

Mark Levin and the Israel lobby. They would support it. Okay, fine. But

the entire rest of them would oppose it. And this is just if everybody knows this is true, right?

And this is just the way it is. They'd have been like, it's another forever war. It's more

Bush Obama, foreign policy, you know, they would blame, you know, whatever James, I was going to say

Komi, but I meant to say Brandon, they would blame, blame, blame John Brandon, the deep state,

all this shit. It would, there's just no question about that. Everybody knows that's true.

The only thing that's different now is that Joe Biden, that Donald Trump's doing it.

Joe Biden was doing it. Kamala Harris was doing it. Hillary Clinton had done it. And in fact,

one of the fun things to point out now that everyone's having a lot of fun on social media with

is Donald Trump tweeting, you know, back in Obama's term, Obama's going to start a war with a

ran. It's going to be a disaster. He's going to be doing it just to distract from his failures

and other issues. Hmm. Isn't that interesting? Well, this is, I want to talk for a second here,

to the group, if there are any who are listening to me, to the group that I mentioned before,

which were Donald Trump supporters who are not sure about this war. And maybe even a little bit to

the 55, 54% who support this war. I want you to consider this. And maybe learn from the mistakes

that the left made over the years. You know, in my life, in my life, and this goes, you know,

this extends from before my life to from before I was born for quite a while, at least since the 1960s.

Culturally speaking, the conservatives have won nothing. Just about nothing. I mean, you could point

to, you could point to, you know, the Supreme Court had some rulings that were decent on, you know,

your constitutional right to own a gun or something like that. But if you just look at our society

and where it is compared to like the 1950s, it's just a much less conservative society. There's

really no way to argue that. And you know, the left just kept winning, kept winning. Like every

thing like, you know, gay marriage or whatever it is. It was just like every single issue. They kept

winning and winning and winning and winning and winning. And really, it's only been like the last

few years, you know, maybe from like 2022. When did Elon buy Twitter? Like right around the time,

Elon bought Twitter. And there were a few other big things. There were like the, the target and the

bud light boycotts. I think really had an impact on pushing wokeism out of the culture. And

Elon Musk buying Twitter was a huge, huge part of it. And then of course this resulted in Donald

Trump's big victory. And a big part of the reason why the left finally lost that kind of like

having the driver's seat in, in the culture was that they just went too far. They just went

way, way, way too far and they were so wrong. You know, the, the first thing that really set the

table for the culture to actually move in a right wing direction. The first major thing was COVID.

And the fact was that even though the Republicans were in many cases as guilty as the Democrats

in terms of lockdowns and all the awful policies, the Democrats championed it in a way that

the Republicans didn't. And then they really brow beat every American over the head,

lie into them about the, the germ and then lie into them about the vaccine and line them about

lockdowns and, and masks and all this other stuff and line them about the origin of the thing.

You know that they made it. And once all that got exposed, it was just like a huge, huge loss for

them. And you know, it just shows you that it's like, look man, taking the wrong side of an issue,

especially, especially in today's media environment where you can't really just control the narrative

through propaganda the way you used to be able to. It's very difficult. It's very difficult to take

those issues. And eventually what happened was they just, they lost the argument. They got proven

wrong on all this shit. You know, we, we, and again, I'm honored to have been a part of this.

But we, I'm not saying it's me, I'm a small part of it, but I'm honored to be a small part of it.

But we were able to get out there and just win the argument and go, no, this COVID thing is

bullshit. You guys are wrong and we're right. This Ukraine war is stupid and you're lying about

the origins of it, you know, and, and all of this stuff. And this resulted in essentially us kind

of taking the country back in some really kind of profound sense. I don't mean politically. I mean,

just where the nation is. And what is all culminated in was, you know, Donald Trump winning the

popular vote in every single swing state and the culture and the youth and the UFC and the Joe

Rogan and just, you know, like me and just, you know, just like winning at least for the moment.

Donald Trump came into that environment and the Democrats had been so thoroughly defeated,

so thoroughly defeated, man, they were sitting at 24% approval ratings. Just in the, I mean, after,

after senile president Joe Biden and then somehow worse candidate Kamala Harris, they were just

discredited for a generation, unless the Republicans handed it right back to them. But so I just

want to try to, you know, like, make this point that if you admit what is obviously true,

which is what I said before, which is that if Kamala Harris was launching this war, you Trump

supporter would oppose it, okay? But now you're supporting it. Well, now this is what you're

allowing to happen, just so you know, you're supporting a war that is the justification is 10 times

more incoherent than the justification for the war in Iraq. It makes absolutely no sense. What

people are arguing, I mean, they're grasping its straws. It's the most ridiculous goddamn

shit ever. They don't even have a justification. The only coherent one that they came up with was

this one that we just played, which at least, as I said, leaves more questions than answered.

The justification is essentially, well, we're controlled by our own client state.

But all the other justification, well, we've been at war for, we didn't start this war. We're

finishing this war says idiot Pete Hegseth. Really? We've been at war for 47 years. How come that never

came up on the campaign trail then? Since you guys, since you guys were running while we were

in an active war that our country was not responding to, why didn't you run on? We're at war with

Iran. We're going to finish this war. It's been going on for 47 years after all. Oh, yeah,

because it's stupid and you're lying through your fucking teeth. All right, guys, let's take a

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let's get back into the show. Anyway, if you want to support this, let me just tell you what you're

doing. Here's what you're doing in effect. You are now handing the Democrats and the liberals

and the leftists who were like on death's door. You just handed them the biggest issue of the moment

to be 100% right on and all they have to do is oppose you. That's what you've given them. That's

the gift that you've given to your political domestic enemies or at least, you know, opponents,

whatever you want to call it. That's what you give them. You know, it's like in the same sense that

like if you let me just say it like this, let's say you were a leftist. Okay, try try to put

yourself in that. Go with me on this thought experiment. I know it's a difficult thing to conceive

of, but imagine you were a leftist. Okay, and imagine let's say you were a leftist and your goals

were like, I don't know, whatever you let's just say you're you're really important priorities were

like the climate change agenda or like universal health care or something like that, right? And

you've got some some politicians, you know, whoever, let's say Bernie Sanders or someone like that

who you think is like really going to help or Kamala Harris or Joe Biden, whoever it might be.

But you think it's going to implement those policies. You want them to have political power to

implement them. Okay, let's let's imagine that that's your position. If you could try, if you can go

with me here on this, I know it's tough for my audience to imagine to put themselves in this situation.

Oh, a few of you, a few of you guys this might define you or describe you. So let's let's say that's

who you were 10 years ago, you know, you really cared about climate change and universal health care.

Okay, well, from your political perspective, the worst thing in the world that you would want to

battle against is your entire movement saying that six year old boys are actually little girls.

Because holy fucking shit, dude, like it's amazing. And by the way, there were a sliver not nearly

enough, but there were some leftists who recognized this at the time who went, yeah, what are you

doing, man? Because you're just handing the easiest of talking points to the other side.

Because this is fucking insane. If you were a leftist who really cared about climate change and

really cared about universal health care, then the worst thing in the world for you is a fucking

tranny given in 11 year old lap dance. Like my God, what are you doing? And then all of your people

are defending that and acting like you're weird for objecting to it. Like I'm saying,

from the perspective of a leftist, this is the worst thing in the world that could happen to you.

And ironically, right, this is one of these kind of counterintuitive things about politics.

But ironically, if you're a right-winger, if you can get past the horrible nature of that event,

if you're a right-winger in a way, it's the best thing for you. Because you could go look how

fucking crazy these people are and you can win that argument. Okay, well, in the same sense,

if you're a right-winger and you're defended any of this bullshit, this is the best thing in

the world for a fucking leftist or a liberal. You're just handing them the whole entire game.

People really have trouble with this in politics. They really have trouble with dealing with

second-order effects. You know, as the wisdom of Rosie Perez and white men can't jump,

sometimes when you win, you really lose. And sometimes when you lose, you really win.

I can't really do a Rosie Perez. I'll work on that.

But that's what you guys have done here. I mean, just

taken a moment where you had, for the first time in my life, all the energy, all the opportunity,

all the wind that you're back and handed it right back over to the worst elements.

This is the best thing that's ever happened for the prospects of an AOC presidency,

has been Donald Trump launch in this war on behalf of Israel. And I understand, by the way,

I know. I know that she doesn't really oppose it. I know that Chuck Schumer doesn't really

oppose it. I know any of them. But again, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter.

It just matters that Trump did it, and they can say there against it. You just hand them the argument.

Let's, before we wrap this up, let's play the JD Vance clip. Because I did think that this was

something that, because we had on the last show played a clip of JD Vance from after the 12-day war.

But this is a more recent clip of the Vice President. Let's listen to this one. Because, by the way,

the reason, sorry, just say, the reason I'm going into this now is because this is directly tied off

of my point. As you're handing it back over to the Democrats, okay, here's your guy,

who's the guy who's supposedly set up to be the next presidential candidate. Let's check in with him.

Vice President of the United States, JD Vance joins us now. Mr. Vice President, why this operation

and why now? Well, good evening, Jesse. So to step back just a little bit, if you go back to

Midnight Hammer in the summer, what the President wanted to do with that mission was eliminate a

rant's ability to build a nuclear weapon. And we did destroy the nuclear enrichment facilities

during Operation Midnight Hammer over the summer. Now, here's the thing, Jesse, we destroyed a

rant's ability to build a nuclear weapon during President Trump's term. We set them back substantially.

But I think the President was looking for the long haul. He was looking for a rant to make a

significant long-term commitment that they would never build a nuclear weapon that they would not

pursue the ability to be on the brink of a nuclear weapon. And after months, really almost a year

of painstaking diplomacy, what the President determined is he didn't want to just keep the President,

or excuse me, keep the country safe from an Iranian nuclear weapon for the first three, four years

of his second term. He wanted to make sure that Iran could never have a nuclear weapon. And that

would require fundamentally a change in mindset from the Iranian regime. So he saw that the Iranian

regime was weakened. He knew that they were committed to getting on that brink of a nuclear

weapon. And he decided to take action because he felt that was necessary in order to protect the

nation. Pause it here. You fucking liar. You just unbelievable liar. Now, I'm sorry, I know

politicians lie, but it's a little bit different when you're lying us into a war against a country

of 92 million people. You know, our seventh war after six catastrophic ones in the region,

you know, lying us into war. See, the thing is that's kind of a deal breaker for me.

That's going to be a little bit of an issue. Iran had never attempted to achieve nuclear weapons

ever. This is by our own annual threat assessment from last year. They had promised to never

achieve nuclear weapons. They had an Ayatollah who swore that it was against his religious views

to have nuclear weapons. You murdered that guy. And now the thing is, this is how they're going

to try to square this circle of how do you fight a war over a nuclear program when you just fought

a war six months ago and bragged that you obliterated that nuclear program? Well, here's JD Vance's

attempt. Well, yeah, we had said him back three years, but Donald Trump didn't just care about

his presidency. He had to make sure they can't get nukes in seven years. Okay. Why not make it 70?

We should start launching wars. But I'm very concerned that Lichtenstein is going to get a

nuke in a thousand years. Let's want let's launch a war of aggression over them.

Oh, over that. Over the completely unfalsifiable idea that may be at some point. They would get

nuclear weapons. That's what we're going with now. By the way, if that is what you're going with,

that's the, I mean, again, and you know, this is me, right? You guys who watch the show, you're

familiar with how I feel about George W. Bush and Barack Obama, right? This is, this is

dumber than any of their justifications for war ever was. He's saying, yes, they were set back

years, but hey, years isn't enough. Here's another major problem with what JD Vance is saying here.

And by the way, you might notice from listening to Marco Rubio, to listening to Mike Johnson,

to listening to Pete Hagset, to listening to Donald Trump, to listening to JD Vance,

every one of them gives you a different justification. They have just not been clear at all that.

What is the reason we're going to war? You know, say what you will about the Bush administration,

and I'll say quite a bit. They should all be in jail for the rest of their lives,

but they went on the record with evidence and made claims and stuck their neck out there and

said, this is what's going on. I put my reputation on the line. Colin Powell went to the United

Nations with the little vial of a thing and sharks and fucking talked about their mobile chemical

weapon stations. Now, none of those existed. He was lying through his teeth. He knew he was lying

and he's burning in hell now because of that. But at least he went out and said something.

You guys just every one of you makes up your own fucking thing.

Well, by the way, if what JD Vance is saying is true, then this war is totally illegal.

Because he's not there was nothing imminent. There was no planned attack as the Pentagon has

confirmed. There was no imminent threat from JD Vance that were concerned about them having

nuclear weapons, but this is years away. And Donald Trump isn't only worried about the next three

years of this, but well, if we got a buffer zone of three years, you know, that's more than enough

time to take it to Congress and get a declaration. I mean, if you're, dude, if you had stock,

if you own stock in AOC, if she was a publicly traded company and you own stock in AOC,

this shit is the greatest thing that's ever happened to you. You have to be like, oh my god,

five more right now. Yeah, let's keep playing. Security. So Senator Marco Rubio, Secretary Rubio,

and the president have both said something along the lines of you ain't seen nothing yet. We could

hit three times as hard. What does that mean? What it means, Jesse, we have a lot of capacity here.

I think there's a lot of chatter about what our objectives is, what our goal is. I mean,

the president's been extremely clear about our objectives. And if that Iran cannot have a nuclear

weapon, but there's also been a lot of conversation about what are our capabilities. And look, I know

this stuff, obviously, I'm not going to reveal classified information here on air, but the

president of the United States knows what we're able to do. He knows that we have much greater

capacity to inflict damage on the Iranian nuclear program, but also on various missiles that

threaten our troops as you've seen. They've been launching those at our troops for

much of the past three days. So I think the president has made it very clear that the United

States has a lot of optionality here. And we could go for a little bit longer. We could go for a

lot longer, but I think the president just wants to make it clear to the Iranians into the world

that he is not going to rest until he accomplishes that all important objective of ensuring

that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Not just for the next few years, not just because we

obliterate in Fordo or some other enrichment facility, but because the Iranians themselves

commit long-term to not building a nuclear weapon. You know, after Iraq and Afghanistan,

some people say up. We can pause there. We can we can turn this off now.

You fucking liar. I kind of know what to say. You fucking liar. They've already committed to this.

They've committed to it over and over and over again. And if the fucking if we didn't have

the most goddamn corrupt press in the world, this would be the front page story.

They committed the day after the day of and the day after Donald Trump's state of the union speech.

The Iranian foreign minister, because Donald Trump, if you remember, said, I haven't heard

those magic words. We will never get a nuclear weapon. And he's like, let me make this clear.

We will never get a nuclear weapon. They've said this over and over and over again. And

JD Vance is a fucking liar, dude. And you know, look, I'm sorry, man, but you want to have a voting

coalition that is enough of a coalition to win the presidency. There are as somebody who was in

the Trump coalition in this last presidential race. And look, I mean, I'm not claiming to

fucking speak for like some huge swath of the American people. But like I speak for some people.

And obviously like this is on I'm a libertarian. This is on a voluntary basis,

only if you choose that I do. But a whole lot of people listen to my show and a whole lot of

people agree with what we're saying. And then there's a whole lot of shows as big or bigger who have

similar type views. There are people out there who have principles. Now, I'm not saying I'm

any better than any of the rest of you, or I'm a more principled person. But like, there's

shit that I believe in. And lying lying to my fucking face and to my family and my friends and my

nation about launching a war, about about murdering people, getting children killed and getting

us embroiled in what could be another calamity. That's a deal breaker for me. You will get JD Vans

will get no support from me going forward. And neither would Marco Rubio, I guess those are the

two being floated out. In fact, all work as hard as I can to make sure nobody supports them.

That's what you've gotten. That's what you've achieved already. And there's a lot more like me

on this. Now, of course, you know, it's just again, it just can't be overstated. I got to wrap up

here in a second. But it's just like this, this can't be repeated enough. How all of them have

different justifications. What is the endgame here? What are we trying to do? They keep saying Donald

Trump will go as long as he can till his mission is accomplished. Who defines what the fucking

mission is? Here's JD Vans is defining it as they not only will they make the decision to not

get a nuke with the Iranian people will know that they can't make a nuke. They've already made that

decision. They promised it. They've declared it. They said they're willing to negotiate. By the

way, they have negotiated. They join the JCPOA. They kept enrichment down to 3%. They did all of this

should until Donald Trump tore it up. So what is but by the way, vice president JD Vans,

the president of the United States said the goal was regime change.

Is that the goal or not? What the fuck are we doing this for? None of them can tell you. They

can't even come up with like a cocaine. They can't all at least in the Bush administration. They

all stuck to script. They all had the same thing to say. Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.

He was in on 9-11. He's working with the terrorists in a post 9-11 world. We can't have a rogue

regime who's working with the terrorists to have nuclear weapons. That is coherent.

It was lies. None of it was true, but it's a coherent argument at least. It doesn't trust a

fire war of aggression, by the way, but it's at least an argument that could maybe get someone

to go, eh, maybe this is the move. This is insanity. And again, we have every reason in the world

to think. Every reason in the world to think that this regime falling right now would be the

worst thing that could happen to the Iranian people and to US interests in the Middle East.

Every reason to think that. Look, and I'll end on this. But when people talk about the regime

changes, we've had lots of regime changes in the Middle East since 9-11 or in the Middle East

and Northern Africa since 9-11. Obviously, we overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan and

propped up our government there for 20 years, which fell to the Taliban after the war. We overthrew

Saddam. We overthrew Gaddafi. We overthrew Assad in Syria. There was regime change in Egypt.

There was an attempted regime change in Gaza after Hamas won the elections. There was

regime change in Yemen. I think it might missing any. It might be. Every last one of them was a

disaster in absolute catastrophe. Like either, either, you know, like in Afghanistan, where we tried

to overthrow the Taliban, we propped up this new government, which, by the way, was really into

raping boys, just a thing. And that was the government we fought on the side of for 20 years.

The boy rapers, by the way, asked anyone you know who served in Afghanistan. This is a very

known thing. This isn't like a fringe thing like a couple of people did this. This was part of their

culture. And it resulted in a more well-armed Taliban overthrowing Saddam, resulted in the

bloodiest eight-year civil war, overthrowing Gaddafi, resulted in a failed state.

It would be as really not a nation anymore, overthrowing Assad led to the Emir of Al Qaeda.

Take it. But you might want to ask, it's not just like a coincidence that we got bad results

from this. It's not just like, oh, you flipped a coin in the air and we happened to get tails

seven times in a row. Like, it's not, there's a reason. There's a reason why

I can really bad brutal people tend to take over in these situations. Because think about it,

right? You start, what are you going to do? You're going to drop bombs on around until

enough high-level people are dead that the government can't function anymore. So, what does that

mean? Like, what does it mean if you overthrow the regime from a bombing campaign? It means there's

chaos. There's dead bodies everywhere. It means there's supply chain issues. It means the shelves

are dry, are bare in stores. It means there's fucking chaos. Well, like, who is most likely to take

over a government, to either take over a government or install a new government in a situation like

that? Who is it? The really peaceful people? Is it Gandhi? Who usually rises up? I mean, like,

not saying it's logically impossible, but what is so much more overwhelmingly likely is that the

most ruthless fucking killers with the most amount of guns are the ones who end up fucking

taking over. This is like when Obama would talk about the moderate rebels in Syria. But what are

you talking about? What does moderate mean? Like, by definition, when you grab a machine gun and

enter a civil war, you're not a moderate anymore. So such thing is a moderate rebel. It's a contradiction

in terms. Once you're a rebel, you're an extremist by definition. You know, the other thing that Donald

Trump floated out today is he said, he's open to the idea of arming the resistance inside around.

They also won't close the door on boots on the ground. Neither will the Israelis.

But that's what, oh, that'll, that'll bring stability. I know, that'll bring stability. What you do

is you start dropping a bunch of bombs from the sky and then flood the place with guns. See,

that's how you get the moderate liberals to take over the country.

Dude, this shit is not going to age well, man. It's a look, man. Donald Trump has destroyed his

presidency. And for any of you guys and for the people like me who forget Trump, because too many

people made a cult of personality thing, too many people hated Donald Trump too much and too

many people loved Donald Trump so much. The truth is, this isn't really about Donald Trump.

Fuck him. Who cares? He's a fucking buffoon who's just always been kind of like a cartoon character.

Also, he's 80. He's going to be dead soon. Like, I have children. Why do you guys listening to

have children? They're growing up in this country. That's not the most important thing. That's

the only thing. The only thing that matters to me is what kind of lives my kids get to have. What type

of country we get to have here? And for those of us who cared about this project and I don't mean

Trump. I mean, the project of trying to take this culture back from insane progressives and

trying to make this country resemble something that might be a country that I'm comfortable with

my kids growing up in is being destroyed by this. And if you care about that project, like if that's

what you care about is saving this republic and trying to give our kids at least, if not better

than what we got at least something close to what we had. If you care about that project,

the only option now at this point is to abandon this administration. Abandon this administration.

We need the Democrats to come destroy the republicans in the midterms, which certainly will happen.

And then we need a fresh start in 2028. We need somebody to essentially do what Donald Trump did.

I jack the party, win the primary, run against the Trump administration, against burying the

Epstein files, against wars of choice, against this war in Iran. We need someone to run against that

while still being against all the progressive establishment, bullshit. That's our only hope.

Thomas Massey, I'm looking at you. All right, that's our show for today. Thank you guys for watching.

Be back soon. Peace.