🏰 The Traitors Finale & Reunion!

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1:06Drama darling. Drama darling. Hello everybody, welcome into a Trader's recap of the finale and the reunion. Joining me in these Zoom squares we have Diana Chang, Jamie Moir, and Emily D'Ariesa's. Hi ladies. Hi. Hi. Emily, did you say hi? I didn't hear you. Hello everyone. Hi, hi. Hello. Before hi. Let's just, you know, you're just in your own. Let's see. Yeah, it does. And I was loving you have the floor. She was riding the mute people. I can't. Now that I will ride the mute all the way to Rob's farm where our children will be. You guys, this is a very exciting day. We've waited what feels like years to get to this point, years mother.

2:06And here we are. Now, let's shout out Jamie's fascinator, which is on her head, which is what, Jamie, a tiny little hat? A tiny black hat in honor of our girl who lost everything. Oh, wow. She, but she won the best dress. And she won a berkin. And a berkin. Also, shout out to Emily D'Ariesa for her gorgeous attire today. Thank you. Looks like we have a Scottish plaid and some chain work. Can you tell me about your fit? This is actually a plaid t-shirt. I've draped over and pinned here. So it looks extra fancy. And then a broken costume jewelry piece that I'm. That's long over my shoulder. That's absolutely fantastic. Thank you. I'm done. Anything for me, Amy. Any, any, any. Diana. And he could do this for my love. A full night's armor. For those of you who aren't watching, Diana is in, yes, an armor.

3:10And, yeah. And I am in a castle. Those of you who are watching using a white t-shirt. And I do have a little argyle plaidish going on over my white t-shirt. And so could do is to us. Well, and you can't see it. But I did create a plaid, very colorful formation in my, you know, pubes. So those are down below. But they're really on scene for you to go there. You really need to have to, yeah. Use your imagination or get to your two. She will be showing them at the end of this broadcast. All right. Just want to say thanks to all of you who have followed this journey with us from beginning until this very end. I know you'll be missing us. And so if you want more of the drama darling crew that isn't on the public, head on over to patreon.com slash drama darling for more recaps.

4:12And also more importantly, add free. All right. Well, we show up at the final breakfast after... Guess who was murdered. It was Mark. It was Mark. It was Mark. Mark headed home with his gorgeous hair. And, you know, did we see that coming? Well, I think so. There weren't many options. I was like, there's 20 people. I thought it might be one of the twins. Tara or Johnny. Oh, the twins. That would have been smarter, I think. Yeah, I did think that... I was thinking it couldn't be Rob. But so I was thinking it had to be someone else that had to go home. So it was going to be Johnny. Yeah, that's who I thought, Johnny. Yeah. But they kind of reversed order because, you know, I guess they thought that, you know,

5:13it would be better to get Rob gone because he may have been on to them, I suppose. Can I tell you a tweet I read that I thought was fascinating. The tweets said the housewives bring the drama. They know how to bring the phrasing. The gamers are truly trying to figure things out gaming-wise. And when it came to Johnny and Tara who figured it out on the last day, that's what Olympians do. They practice and then they nail the day. Like, they're not focused until the day and then they bring the thunder. And I thought that was really fascinating. Yeah. In fact, I don't know where I saw this, but I don't think it was on the show. Tara said something like, you know, they practice so long. And then it's that four minutes at the very end. Yeah, she said that on the reunion. Oh, she said, okay, well fair enough. Yeah, and I thought that was fascinating. And honestly, I did appreciate that. But I was also like, I mean, couldn't you have access that a little sooner. She got, you know, so interesting that last day. And it was like, Mora, I'm looking at you.

6:13Yeah. I'm looking at you and I'm telling you it's Eric. Cut to, I'm thinking it might be Eric. I'm thinking I'm not voting for Eric. And then it's like, Mora, I'm looking at you and I'm telling you it is Rob. I'm thinking you might be right. I'm thinking I'm not voting for Rob. So I'm just like, but Tara had it. She had it. Yeah. We know that. All Mora knows is that Tara's been wrong every time. Every time. Yeah. And Rob's been right a lot. So I'm, if I'm more, I do think like you're at the end. Like I guess I'm just going to revert to trusting who I trust. Even though it looks crazy at home. No, it does, it does look crazy at home, but you're right. Being in the game, you played this for so long with the people that you are aligned to. It would feel so strange to go against them at this time. But he believed him wholeheartedly. Yeah. Never questioned her. Yeah. It was so bad for her.

7:13It was awful to see. It really was. Like I have felt, I felt, I didn't feel that bad for her just because I, she had it coming. You know, I mean, I felt more bad for Eric kind of in some ways than I did for Mora. But it is hard because you just know as a lady, she's going to be dealing with this. This has ripple effects that are going to be, I genuinely think they're going to be hard for her to trust. Like Rob should be paying for her therapy at this point. Yes. She didn't believe the girl, she broke girl code. And if she would have just believed Tara, she'd have $110,000. I mean, not even just Tara. Like this is the thing. It's like Wizard of Oz. It's like you knew it the whole time, Mora. Like I had it thought you, you were saying out loud. I shouldn't still be here. I should, somebody is keeping me here. Like it can't be Rob. Can it? Yeah.

8:13She said that like twice or three times. I know. Not even at the end. She was saying it throughout. But yeah. She was taken. She was taken. Yeah. But she wasn't, the tings in a taut couldn't get out past like they were in a little bubble. And I do think that Rob had this effect that it was almost like he created a bubble around himself that people just couldn't even consider penetrating. It was what, I don't think we've ever seen anything. Say Rob is penetrating a couple more times. Because everybody was so dumb. I think people legit thought they were smarter than Rob. I think that's how he played. I think that's part of it, Emily. Absolutely. I think that's part of it. And I think they also were like, just as much as you knew, Mark wasn't one. You knew Rob wasn't one. You know what I mean? They didn't make eye contact with them. Eric got called into the mat. But also, guys want to be him. Girls want to bone him.

9:14He was golden. Yeah. Say. Who's not threatening? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just want to, that last moment when Mora is waiting for the reveal for Rob. And she's got heart hands up. She's got heart hands. That was gross. You thought this was heart hands? Yeah, it was. No. They were little balls of like heart leather or like whatever that's called the leather. And then you, if you pull out because their hands are so tiny, she was, I think she was doing tinky, tinky heart hands. Right. She really was doing heart hands? I know. I thought she was doing this. Oh my fucking god. She was. But I think she did both. But wasn't she doing? Am I? Okay. Maybe I'm great. Oh my god. Look at on the zoom screen. It is doing heart hands at the bottom. Can you see it? No. Oh, anyway. Do it on your screen. It'll pop up. I think I turned mine off. I can't be doing it.

10:15Oh. I couldn't be doing it more if I tried. Mine's broken. Mine's broken. Okay. I could be wrong. She might not have heart hands. But when she was waiting there for him and then he was like, um, I'm a traitor. Oh. She's like, she's like, I was thinking I was waiting for him to say he was joking. She tried to joke herself. She goes, I'm a traitor. She goes, just kidding. I'm a faithful and I'm like, oh my god. This is going to break my fucking heart. And it did. Her reaction was cinema. Not since the shot on the beach of Salt Lake City. Have I seen something so poetic and artistic as her realization? And I also love it. She's like, I'm so stupid. And he's like, you're not stupid. And she goes, no, I am. And then, and then she's like, don't talk. Yeah. I actually did that. Don't talk. I like that she said, well, you're not going to get ever get a girlfriend. You're such a good liar. Yeah. I thought that put him in a nice place. To immediately get a gorgeous girlfriend in the middle of the devil.

11:18He's like, interesting theory. I mean, I think it's going to happen in three seconds, but cute. Literally. He's like, I only got hotter just now when I got the money, but. Yeah, sure. That's cute. I do love on the reunion that. It kind of got pitched tomorrow first to ask if there was chemistry there. And I was like, this girl's been through enough. Now she has to be like, yeah, there was chemistry. I agree. And Robby, like, I don't know. No. Yeah, I just wanted more. I think it was handled well on her end, but I love it. Can I speak to that? You're right, Emily. Oh, wow. And. You're right. And I think I'm going to take one step further. I think Rob was subtly flirting with her the entire season, touching in the arm of the chair, picking her up, holding her hand. I got something hot for you in the helicopter. He was doing it on purpose. Praige. He used her, like, you know, how he has all of his chess and, you know, allergies because he's a chess player.

12:18And you know what? He's right. He used these people right across the board. And she wasn't, he was like, she's my queen. She was, she was upon. You know, you couldn't even move that thing anywhere you want. And she fell right in line. And I understand her coming out and being like, I'm so dumb. I'm so stupid. And I would feel that way too. I also don't, I don't feel that bad for her. Of course, I feel empathetic and I felt so embarrassed for her. But at the same time, I'm like, oh, God, you know, we all have our stuff. And she fell into a pattern where she, she trusted him, you know, just... We've all been there. Right. Well, think about when you, like, especially I think about when I was in college. When I was in college hanging out at Grounds Coffee House and the guy that I like touched my chair. I'd be like, he wants me. Like, you know, I, you can't help it. It just, he was, he was subtly flirting, holding hands. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've just done at Grounds Coffee. And I think that if we could come up with a couple more examples.

13:20I think you're right. Are you talking about near, like, Wayne State University? No, there, we, our coffee house at the, in, uh, U of D mercy was called Grounds. Oh. And that's where we all hung out and played. Hours of Uker. But like, when I would be hanging out with the guys or a guy that I liked and if he was like, Yeah. Or took my hand, what do you do it? Yeah. Look, I'm gonna, you know, you know, in my hand. It's off my hand. I see you that. And I raised you that freaking helicopter ride. Oh. It's like, it's like, you know, he was so hot. He was so hot. He was so hot. The marketing bag to like, the best action romance room movies. Like, you know, you've got Tom Cruise and like, I don't know, Sandra Bullock, like, up in this helicopter. He's got his arm around her. Yeah. But he's holding on. So I'm like, is this, does he have his arm around her? Is he just holding on? Or is it both? I don't know. I was like, this is the most romantic thing I've ever seen in my life. And to have his, have his dick out was a wild choice. That was fantastic. But he was turning up the volume for this last big move. Agreed. You know, and, and that was part of his strategy and how he played it and it was perfect.

14:23I mean, he was like, he had to move her into the correct position and keep her there. And so he was just turning it up. Talk slower, please. Turning it up. Because in the beginning, he was actually, there was a lot of distance between them. Like, and this was a, you know, really planned out. I mean, Rob understands how he moves through the world. But to give more, like, some more credit, which I think, like, we all understand how she got there. Yes. They all were digmatized by Rob. That's right. You know, the men and the women in the union that they're like, I couldn't make eye contact with him, you know. Ladies, so if you're planning to be on traders, you can't play the game Rob played because you will be hated. Yeah. Absolutely. You can't. So we've got to come up with a different strategy. Yeah. Everyone's strategy is going to be completely different in his.

15:24You won't be able to do that. No one will be able to do what another person does. But he was such an incredible player from beginning to end. It was so smooth. Yeah. My, my strategy is make a cookie for every one of them. Oh. And here's the, oh yeah. My strategy is just to apologize from son up to son down. Oh god. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Candice, you know, at the reunion was interesting. I, you know, one of the things that she said to Rob was like, just admit it, you were in it for yourself. And I kept saying, who isn't in it for yourself? He basically was saying that too. Not in sense. Are you talking about, if you're not there to win the game, it's not, it's not, what's the game? It's the best friend race. It's RuPaul's Drag Race, you know? That's what he always says. What's the one where they're, they team up and two people and they do, they race around the world. Oh, like, yeah. Yeah.

16:24Yeah. It's not amazing race. You don't have to have another person. You have to, you know, you use other people to get to the end. But her argument for just admit it, I thought was a real waste of time. Yes. And also, what did you guys think about Candice saying to Mora, like, you know, maybe you should look inward or something like that? Not like, but I say something about Candice. So as everyone here knows, because I told them, I'm currently watching Potomac for the first time. So I'm on season four. Candice between traders currently and Potomac, season four, she's getting no manners. I'm not loving it. So I don't know if she has a reductive art coming on Potomac, but like, we're right around when she, when she threw the knife at Ashley at the dinner party, which Ashley killed her with. Oh, I don't mean to disrespect you and your mother's house. Great bit. And then heard the traders reunion. I thought she was bringing nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm starting to think I don't like Candice now.

17:25Are you all people who like Candice on Potomac? It's been a roller coaster ride. There have been times, which I'm sure you'll probably see also. But at the, by the end of traders at this reunion, when she was talking, I had to like, remove my eyeballs from the back of my head because I was like over it, you know. Yeah. And what did you think about what she said to Moira? Oh, I didn't like that. And I couldn't, I couldn't figure out the thing with Colton with the big reveal. But I, but I have to think because Candice said Colton told me that Rob outed himself to you. And I kind of believe Candice. I do too. I do because Colton is an actual snake. Yeah. And so like Rob's a play snake. And I, I could see something going down and then Colton told Candice and Candice is going to tell everybody. But then when he asked him, Colton didn't admit that. Well, that's Colton.

18:26Like Colton's got some problem. You did what a weird thing. Yeah. I would have liked Candice to approach this reunion. If she had said, you know what? Now that I've had time to kind of take a look around, I can see that I was clutching too hard to how to be a faithful and a trader and how to support the other traders. And I was making it too personal when you flipped on Lisa. I wish she had said that. And I shouldn't have done that because I think you and I could have gone to the end together. Like she couldn't, you know watching it back, she knows she screwed up. And that like she should have released Lisa into the, into the wild and teamed up with Rob. That's what anyone else are doing a good season. That's what this game is about. And Candice for some strange reason keeps thinking.

19:26That's why Lisa was kind of going along with it a little bit. Well, yeah. You know, you stick together till the end. Childish. Childish. But yeah, it's a childish approach. When we were recapping this along the way, I remember thinking that this group has stuck together a lot longer than those groups have. Of traders. And, no, it's the challenge. No, the traders. No, okay. Okay. And the turrets. Yes. Yes. Of course. Okay. So they stuck together for a burn. It was not even a burn. It was out there. It was out there. How could you be medium rare? Scorched my fingers. So they stuck together for a long time. Way longer than they should have with Lisa. Like I said before, they covered her ass for too many times. Three turrets. Yeah. And so for Rob to finally just jump out of that. And for Ken. Like, you know, I can't believe you did that.

20:28How dare you? It's like, you, there's no way he could have come to Candace and said, join me. We need to, you know, cut and run from Lisa. Because Candace would have probably gone back to Lisa and been like, he's trying to do this. And then they would have gotten rid of him. So again, he played a great game. He had to do what he had to do. I had no problem with that. Yeah. The writing was on the wall. Lisa was going down. She was going down. I mean, she was like, you know, she couldn't even gather herself. She wouldn't have done for Candace what Candace tried to do for her. And that's also what I wish Candace would come with. Like, I don't know if Candace didn't watch the show ever, which I would accept as a reality. You know, it's almost like she didn't watch it and she didn't have like a working knowledge of how a traitor needs to be. Did Moral watch it? I agree with you. And I think that that moment where Colton was away from Rob and he goes, well, if you bring up a traitor's name and someone says, no, that means they probably know they're a traitor. And that was one of the sexiest moments of the season when he goes, what about Lisa and Rob

21:31goes, plausible. Did he say plausible? Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Great, nice word. And like, it was really smart. I was like, ooh. I'm more big word. You, me and Tuscany is a brand new romcom from Will Packer, the guy who produced Girl's Trip. The movie stars Hallie Bailey and Reggae Jean Paige and has all the ingredients of your favorite romcoms. Heart, huge labs and sizzling chemistry set in the enchanting vineyards of Tuscany. It's the movie escape we've been waiting for. And the perfect film for date night or a night out with the girls. Get your romcom on with you, me and Tuscany, directed by Cat Coro, only in theaters April 10. You know what? I could really go for right now. Literally anything that comes in a McDonald's carton, wrapper or bag or a McDonald's cup. Yes. Any of those items you do it. We've got your cravings covered. Now, stop in for the flaky filet of fish.

22:33The crispy snack wrap or a large fries for just $2.99 limited time only. Price and participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer. You know, one thing I have to say is I loved that Johnny and Tara were chiming in from the freaking Olympics. I mean, what superstars, right? That was cool. I mean, that was part of the branding deal. I mean, this is the Olympics. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that was so good. Well, they just got themselves their own TV show as detectives. I promise you that any idiot in Hollywood worth their salt should be writing that show immediately. Yeah. And all of it is like the entire season. They're super sleepy and they don't do much. But then the exact last four minutes of the season finale is when it gets good. Oh, sorry. That show is called Columbo. They're wearing jackets. Well, they're rich, by the way, everybody. Also, we know that, right? They're the richest people in there. Yeah. They're doing well. I mean, I think whatever the NBC deal is like it's forever and always unless they get canceled.

23:38I mean, unless they say something crazy and they won't. They're too sweet. I love them. I love them. I know. I love that every once in a while, Johnny would just say one thing I learned from the Olympics is that and everything applied to the Olympics, even if it was just at breakfast, one thing I learned about the Olympics is that you need to wait when you ask for a croissant to make sure that the other person isn't going to grab the one you want. So true, Johnny. So true. How about them lobbying for better breakfast meats at the reunion? Yeah. I like eggs and salmon. That's it. And you know what? I believe I had seen some TikTok or something where they said that they did not give good food at the breakfast. So they know they went for it. The reunion though. First of all, let Ron talk more. Yeah. Let Michael Rappaport talk less. Tell Colton to shut the hell up. But Rappaport, if you don't know Jorinda's fun catch phrases, Rappaport looks insane.

24:44Yeah. With a tea, Rappaport looks insane. He looks like he, I am now questioning like lead poisoning. Like, I don't know what's happening with him. It's weird. Yeah. Go ahead, Deanna. He was also in some kind of pullover shirt with that tie hanging down, which made me really angry. Yeah. Made me insane. Was that what it was a pullover shirt? Yeah, it wasn't a, it wasn't the shirt you put on and then put a tie on. It wasn't a button down. It was something very upsetting. Very ill-fitted. And it made him, it felt disrespectful, honestly. He did. He should have been banished from the reunion. What are you, look? Nothing was more disrespectful than formal night, last round table, like when you come in in your formal, formal and Rob's like, I'm going to wear my catchphrase overalls. I did not appreciate that. I'd like to have seen him dressed up. I would have liked that too. For the old. Yeah.

25:44But you know, you're talking about the last scene of the, like when at the last round table. The final, final round table or the final, final, we're doing this. We're going to throw stuff into the fire. They are always dressed. Right. But I thought that that was a chest move. I really did. It's undercuts everything. It makes, it was brilliant. I thought that was brilliant. It does. Interesting. It's part of his strategy. You're right. I'm just a, not so great dumb guy who just kind of shows up. Simple, nice guy. Simple, faithful. I'm a simple, faithful without a shirt on. Yeah. Simple, easy. I'm an easy guy. Show some respect. No, I'm just saying that's what he's saying. I know. And I'm saying to him. Show some respect. Also with the reunion. Can we have a little more from Yam-Yam, please? Jam-Yam. Jam-Yam. Jam-Yam. Jam-Yam. It's Jam-Yam right?

26:44Jam-Yam-Yam. I say, I say, Yam-Yam and I stick by that. Well, we're going to, we're, we're going to, we're, Jam-Yam. Jam Jam. Oh, babe. You're a little jam-Yam. Jam. Hahaha. There were, there were quite a few people that I just completely, oh my God, you say it. Truly, I need it. Who the hell is me? I don't know. I don't know. I don't recognize. The first six people to go, I was like, nice to meet you. to meet you. Hello. But also one of them was so on to them, really on and get rid of them, which made me think like, wow, if you do have a really good idea of who it is, you need to put that in your back pocket and go with the group and then pull that up later. So that in and of itself was a real learning experience for me, for like strategy, for the future, for is anyone here going to apply to be a trader? Well, Emily, I'm going to bat in my back pocket and I'm going to save it. I do want Emily to put a night together for us.

27:46I was saying in our thread that I had a montage customer who is doing this for her husband's 40th and she's done it once before and she said it was like the most incredible night and even people who didn't know the show just had like the best time and I am just nominating Emily D'Ariesis, you put this together for us, a trader's night, a trader, a proper trade with challenges, like activation, like an activation because they did that. They had that here in L.A. remember and I found it like after, somebody found it, I don't remember. I think I saw it on Instagram and then I tried to see if we could go and it was already booked up and out and it was like done, not even. Look them blast. My cousins, Ariel and Meredith, longtime listeners of the show by the way, they think I should host it. To answer your previous question, I can't apply to be on the show, I'm on a very prominent peacock series already called AP Bios so they don't like to hire cross-collinates.

28:48You can do celebrity. Oh yeah, but then I don't qualify for that. Will you wear, says who? I'm in the middle world of these two worlds. Middle earth? You could do middle earth traders. I could host that. All right, you fools. Get all the hair. Grab your glass of meat. I'm going to walk around and smack one of you upside your big heads and you will be the one who has the dinner. Looks like I'm each half of the menu, boys. We're going to the bedrock touratoria, the tour it's made of rocks, like in the movie Castaway, and I've drawn Helen Hunt on the wall with Chuck. Big castaway fan here by the way. Love Castaway. Okay, where should we go now? I'd like to go to win. Rob jumped out of the helicopter, that's super cool. Wow. That was phenomenal. I mean, I can't believe he just up and did that. Like nothing. Yeah. Like nothing.

29:48Very cool. I'm very cool. Glad it was Rob because I thought like he knew enough to wait to take the headset off and get un-miked, where I went back and watched that again, and after I had watched the reunion and I was like, man, if that would have been like Rappaport, he would have destroyed like $10,000 in gear just to be like, yeah, hit his head off his way down, it is very looking. I also felt like Rob knew to stay under for a while so that when he popped up, he, yeah, like I thought he had that down pat. So he, you are giving him way too much credit. No. I got him. Not enough credit. I keep thinking the people that end up in the finals like this, like what if it was fucking Donna and she's up in the helicopter is like, what's going to happen when you make it to the end? They ain't jumping. They ain't jumping. They ain't jumping. They ain't jumping. They ain't jumping. They ain't jumping.

30:49They ain't jumping. They ain't jumping. She just wouldn't have done that. I was thinking of the people that were really bad at the challenges. Duranda. And Duranda. Duranda made me mad. She's still making me mad. She made me mad at the reunion. I'm like, you were to give nothing. Did she say anything at the reunion? No. Oh, she didn't even say anything. That's what she's like, you wanted this so badly yet you contributed nothing. Nothing. Oh, that is weird. She really didn't say much. But I mean, she didn't have to because everybody else was saying her catchphrases, and it's in Rappaport. Oh, yeah, no kidding. And then the Rappaport gave credit to Hilaria Baldwin. What was that? What was that? That was so weird. What was that? Yeah. I don't know. That was Bizarro Land. Yeah. I thought that was a mess. I didn't understand what that was. Rappaport made himself look extra terrible because guess what? I didn't know that was a Duranda's catchphrase and I'm like, why does he keep telling everyone snap it down or whatever he was saying? That's what I'm saying. What's the phrase? Clip. Clip. Snap it down.

31:50I was like, hey, shut the hell up. Yeah. I did not like that. Tell me to clip. I'll be clipping your nut sack, buddy. I also felt like Ron didn't get enough. I love that. Mama Kelsey went for, and it was like, you said that, Portia, you said that. I wanted Ron to have his moment where it was like, we all watched that and how we see what you saw with Portia, and we agree. I know. But it's dead. Now that said, Portia did make the reunion for me. Like everything she said was like drops of gold. But I did want Ron to get a little of a grace and wanted him to talk about his autism and also like, he did some apologies for Paul. Yeah. That's what I mean. I think I felt could be wrong, but I felt like he did so much talking after the show and went on so many platforms that Brand, that Bravo, that Andy was annoyed. That's sort of where I stand up is great on this bit. Like his bits about this are amazing.

32:50Oh really? There's one that maybe laughs so hard. Portia, by the way, pulling out the smashed Rina lip combo was savage. When these housewives have this idea that they're all going to stick together, it's so annoying and it's so frustrating. Yeah. It never happens. It's ridiculous. And I think that they need to go in next time and be like, you know, are we going to stick together or not? Let's just, you know, all for one, let's play the game and not make it personal. That leads me to my next point. First of all, I like that Andy called out Rappaport by saying like, this isn't a housewives reunion, you know? Yeah. And Colton, making the point that I just feel like what happens outside of this game in our personal lives shouldn't be brought to a game. You know, that does actually make sense to me. When you start, if you're going to be bringing stuff in like a housewife, it changes the tone of the game. So how do you guys feel about bringing up someone's past on the game, much like Rappaport

33:53did? I didn't even have to. Yeah. If you know people, you know, that's what non celebrity, that's why I love the non celebrity traders because none of us know anything. We're not tuning in because we know this person is going to like really serve up some drama. We're just like watching strangers go at it like UK season one, which Emily recommended me to watch. And it was excellent. Yeah. You guys watched it. Yeah. But if you like that so much, then why would you like the celebrity version with them bringing up stuff? I don't. I will take traders in any form, including a cast of goldfish. I love trade. Except New Zealand. Jamie, how do you feel about bringing up things outside of the show that are personal onto the game? I think it's fine. I'd like to say, by the way, you're on TV and let's, there's one thing about this show I don't like. The faithfuls do want to stick around. That's why they all jump on the bad wing it. They don't even really think people are traders have the time.

34:56So if I know someone from a different show, I'm going to be like, well, you cheated on three husbands. Why aren't you a trader because it's information that will keep me around longer. And we loved it when all that shit got brought up on on sand of all last season. And, you know, like, Alan was walking into breakfast, calling him out for sand of all stuff. Marlon, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, that's funny. Sand of all is in a different category though, because we're going to have, we're going to be able to chew on that bone for the rest of our lives, apparently, you know, like, that's personal to us. Can I say something about Rina? I didn't realize until this trader's just how hurt she was by her firing from Bravo. And I thought that it was a nice moment when Andy was like one season, you were a terrible villain in a bitch. The rest you were great. Yeah. I did really like that. I felt bad for her. I just think that her, her more than I ever knew. And now I know it really hurt her. Yeah.

35:57Yeah. She was on Watchwood Happens this past week. And he had a really nice apology in terms of something he had done with his book and her. And so I think she's having a nice moment. She's having that. Yeah. Trader's Redemption week. What about the drug defense and all? Yeah. That is absolutely insane that that she would have had that kind of, that would have happened before the reunion. Right. When they said, I saw, I saw, I walked into the Trader's party at the Abby and WeHo, so I was like, got it. And I have a time stamp. And you know, they probably obviously they're not going to talk about that. But in what a weird situation that she had to endure. And also on the heels of her book tour, by the way, so she is going on like, you know, the today show. And she's like, yeah, I was drugged. Yeah. Very out. Yeah.

36:58It's like crazy. I mean, her whole, the, the culmination of her being on Traders and this book and then this scandal is nuts, but it is so concerning because she's so tiny. Something. She could have died. She could have freaking. Now, this is very agatha. Christy. If this was a book, one of them would have done it. Yeah. But it is the Abby. They do that. They do that. But it also seems risky to do that at a party of this level. Everybody, like everybody's like, oh, yeah, they do that at the Abby. If that is so prevalent at the Abby, shut it down. Why is it still like, I don't know what you guys are talking about when you say that they do that at the Abby. Why? It's a legend. It's a legend. But it's now at a point. I know that I had read that it is under investigation. Roofying. Yeah. Roofying Amy. Not always fentanyl, but like, you know, they'll put. Yeah. I have to see it and drink or something. Yeah. GHB or XC or something. Yeah. I mean, that's, you're absolutely right.

37:58Why is it still open? Yeah. But again, do you guys see what I mean about? I got the Christie. Yeah. In a book, it would have been one of them. And she would have, you know, it's just interesting. Yeah. Or murder, she wrote, you know, yeah, or it would have been Colton. Yeah. They said that Columbo shouted out more than once and it is a love episode, you know, that's nice. Honestly. Honestly. Did we all know that Rina's lip kits were done? Yes. Another sad moment. I was. Yeah. Because she, God, she's mad. Mark. Right. I think we have this guy. Yeah. Like, she was like three years too late for that. Three years too late. Three years. That's right. Well, the eye attack you. Wait a minute. Mark. Mark saying, like, I read my biggest regret. It's like, well, no shit. It's your biggest regret. Like, what are the regrets? Could you possibly have? My biggest regret. To not think about that it's Rob after Candace voted for him twice. Yeah. All of them. All of them. And then Mark sees. He's like a cat.

38:59He always lands on his feet. And McCut too. Rob. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was like the thing about Rob that was such a trip was they, that bubble that I did feel this like it, they couldn't even allow themselves to penetrate. Oh. Here we go. Here we go again. Thinking about the fact that his name was never mentioned twice. Like it couldn't even pop that bubble to allow it to seep into their minds. And then it was like, he did some voodoo on them, truly. Yeah. I never written down my side's Candace not once, which is crazy. Candace was, you know, she was pissed at Moora. She was pissed at Rob. And she let him know in the way that she would. She was like more, you know, Moora, you need to check yourself and look inward. Rob, I never thought you were hot. It's like she just cuts right down to the core of, you know, I mean, I would think Rob might be crying over that. I mean, like to have at least one person care less about any of these people, I get that

40:02vibe as well. Oh, yeah. You could see in Rob's face when they talked about him buying Moora a Birken. And they're like, it starts at 10,000. That's where it starts. And he was like, fuck. Yeah. I love that though. That whatever happened off camera where she was like, you want me to forgive you buy me a Birken? He's like, I'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. Because it made me feel better for her. And also it made me like him more too. He's like, mind I'll buy you a Birken, like, I, you know, I know he felt guilty. He, he won on her tiny frame on her tiny little back and her giant giant figure on Erichs and on Marx and yeah, but more on hers than anybody. Erich, what an Erich, Erich, you're a dud. Moora had this wing vote when they were around the fire, you know, and for a second there, Erich said, I can't believe no one is looking at this person ever. No, she was done then. She was either going to lose to Rob or she's going to lose to Erich when Tara was gone. Yeah.

41:03I didn't realize that until this show, you're right, Emily. I thought there was going to be one more thing. She never got a chance to be like, I think you're a traitor. Okay. So after Erich left, she couldn't say, I think there's one more traitor. Yeah, that wouldn't seem fair because what do you have to lose at that point? Yeah. Okay. Wow. Interesting. Wow. Tara was the last shot. And then yeah, did you, I did not think for a second that Rob was going to take Erich to the end. There's no way. Did you guys have that? No, I did. I did. I did. I did. I just thought, Rob loves the guys. He's such a guy's guy and I just thought like it's going to be him and Erich, but I did need that reminder that Rob said. I think maybe ahead of the reunion where he's like, I'm going to need these people for three weeks. I'm not going to split all this money with them. And I was like, yes, okay, that's how they all are. That's how you can justify it. I did think and who knows, but I thought you know, because I do think Candace was a played

42:04a very like exciting game of traitors up until the point when it went left. Like she was a real faithful and she was just like making things happen and being out there and not being quiet. Like I thought it was a, I was impressed with Candace. Yeah. And they had partnered and taken it to the end, which I do think they could have. I'm like, I don't think there's any way in which he would have done that to Candace with an original. Yeah. With an original idea. That's okay. But she pissed him off. She got too mad. She was acting too hot. He's like, are you mad at me? She's like, yes, I am. And in his mind, he's like, well, then fuck off. Yeah. That's what I would do too. I'd be like, you're mad at me. Well, then we're done. Yeah. You're going to hold a grudge. And I was like, I loved our family. Well, yeah. Renna was cool. Candace wasn't. You know, she just didn't ride with it. Did you guys love that love Highland bit? I don't remember them doing these bits before. Did they? Really cute. Yeah. They did. This was a good, those were good packages. Oh, really good. Nice package.

43:04Nice package. Nice package package. Yeah. Like the clientana. Yeah. Bomb shell. That was so cute. She was so cute. She was so cute. I mean, I did want to know the answer. But I didn't love that Andy asked Donna about Taylor. Yeah. She didn't seem to like it that much either. Well, it's tired, you know. It's like, let's be better than that, but we can't be. Well, I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I liked hearing that she watched The Traders. I think that's fun. I like it. I do want to know it. You're getting me wrong. I do want to know it. Yeah. I don't like that someone asked it. I just felt, I just watched her shrink a little bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a great point because it takes away from her. I take that back. I take that back. You take that. Take Tinker. Take Tinker, take Tinker, take Tinker. Take Tinker, take Tinker. Like her little tinker was like, by the last episode she was tinkering her little TinkKAugh. Hear at the end her shock her reaction.

44:08I think was the best I've ever seen. That she when they say the phrase gagged. Yeah. That was a gags like she was gagged Watching this this was that the reunion it took a screenshot. No, no, that's not a real screenshot. Yeah, I thought that was an Animated cartoon Give me look Her expressions are amazing. I want to revisit Jamie. You were not on the recap when we at the very beginning We called out demanded I'd not show up that day by the way. She's a very strongly What is text? I said don't show up today. Yeah, she told me not to show up both days She said me pretty clear. These are texts, but she's cutting letters out of magazine. So I think it's weird

45:09She's a screenshot of Yeah, and then I forget her all frickin' for my number. She hates going to the post office Right go on me for that sake. So funny. It's like I know it's coming from Okay, um who we all thought it was gonna be in the end we we made our choice after like the first after the third episode We just picked one person and we're like this is just who we're gonna pick We know that I do that you're saying I did not you didn't do that, but did you have an idea? Yeah, I didn't do it now I think Rob's gonna win when it comes down to him and more Jamie wins because Deanna picked Mark nice Emily picked Tara bad and I Thought that was pretty good. It's her made it very close in and I picked Kristen Dodie, okay. Yeah, yeah So did not Emily won as in terms of who got the furthest and we all agreed that

46:15Mora would make it to the end, but she wouldn't win. Oh Wow, I mean, I don't want to be a calm myself out, but I am the one who said that but I You all agreed you all agree Yes, so I'm like tune into drama darling for your Trader's brackets is what I'm here Fantasy Traders just anybody have anything else to say about I love portions look the most at the reunion Yeah, it's gorgeous. He always looks gorgeous Dunning and I wish that Monet and Portia would have lasted a lot longer because I realized how entertaining the reunion was because of them Yeah, I Think it was an excellent season. I was fascinated the whole time. I think Rob was a brilliant Trader People are comparing him to the winner of the season one and I get it. I get it When I think about that last episode Tara is who really does hit me because she Locked in it was fascinating to see if she could turn more my chest was tight. I was like oh my god

47:16Oh my god, they're so close, you know like the two episodes like They when she didn't go forward with them the other player the team out The the very strong Female Bluto Natalie Natalie when she left Natalie like they were You know so close and then to have this where she locked in I mean I thought they could get him I was like oh my god. Oh my god. I mean it was just a crazy feeling You know it made me sad because I think that she doesn't want Rob to be mad at her And so she wouldn't do it, but it does make me sad to Deanna because it would have been awesome Mm-hmm if she would have been like I think you're right Yes, I think you're right She's like that Rob, but I wonder why Mark's kept me around this long. You know what I mean like she doesn't you know Not thinking I'm taking it's Alan. Yeah, Alan. It can't be called Alan. It's it's Fergus

48:20Do you imagine this sponsor ship deals Tara and Mora what it got out of this for like the next month girl stuff if they Came out of this They would have been like still get a lot of sponsorships. Yeah, what's that well? They still could get a lot of sponsors. I'm saying if they took it out in the end Yeah, that would have been right. It would have been so cool. Well, again It's sad to watch one woman tell another woman listen listen to me. He's fooling you which we've all done with guys with our friends, too And or people have told us like Jamie. I don't think he's the one for you I'm like, but listen to what he did this type like it's like stupid, you know You're not gonna leave that person until you're ready to leave until you see her yourself and you know I am I think it'll be interesting to have her you know to see her journey from here on out She's so young. So she has a whole life ahead of her where she's got a job. She's great More like an emotional like an emotional Growth, you know what I'm saying like a mature maturity. Yeah, she's gonna really she's gonna learn she will have learned some stuff

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