The New Virginia Plan

0:00Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is Walker. See I'm joined by Kevin Deanna once again time for another edition of view from the right and Mr. Deanna. I think that a glimpse of the future for all Americans with demographic change taking place and Democrats taking control of state legislatures across the nation is on display in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Well, that and the Oscars last night too. We're basically, it seems that every single award going forward is just going to be entirely on political considerations. Really quick hold on, hold on, before we jump into Virginia, I think it's very instructive and important to point out that it was 10 years ago that some black actress got upset or some black journalist got upset and started the Oscars so white twend. And then after the George Floyd fiasco of May of 2020, that's when we saw the Academy Awards succumb to all the pressure and they instituted new changes mandating diversity, equity and inclusion guidelines for how you can even be viewed for nomination for an award

1:06which basically keeps out 30 to 40 percent of films at Commodity Cheer because of a lack of diversity in the cast, lack of diversity in the writing room behind the camera, even in marketing, they question and they scrutinize every aspect of a film for its diversity. Non-white budget. And last night, I think we saw the culmination of that with movies that I don't think anymore, we care about 10, 15 years ago that we now have to pretend this is the greatest thing ever made. This is this is absolute cinema. Right. I mean, this is the whole game essentially because when you look at what the Civil Rights Movement really represented, forget the things that we usually talk about in terms of the collapse of standard of living, forget crime, forget all these sorts of things. What it meant in terms of creating an essentially an entirely new economy because there are a whole industries, there's an entire political class, there's an entire black, middle class which only exists because essentially this artificial job market was created and part

2:08of it is as simple as mow mowing the flat catchers as Tom Wolf used to say, we're basically you just intimidate people and say we're going to call you racist, we're going to protest, we're going to do these sorts of things unless you give us a pile of money. And now it's gotten to the point where this basically defines the leading institutions. I mean, when you have people like Iberm Kendi being giving MacArthur genius grants a few years ago and now people are saying, oh, wokeness is dead. It's like, no, it's not. I mean, if you look at the Oscars last night, I'm convincing the only reason they got that award is because that Teruts guy was screaming out the N word of what a month ago or whatever it was. It's real quick. Break it down. I haven't even looked. I know that Michael B. Jordan won the best actor for so long. I didn't look at the full thing. I just know that some of these, I know Jordan got the best actor, but it's not so important as to who got what and everything else is just that this is utterly mediocre. And at some level, everybody, including the people giving the awards, no, it's utterly mediocre would not even be noticed as a film a decade ago.

3:11But these are now the requirements. I mean, this is something I think people don't quite understand. People will say things like, well, why don't we get entertainment of the sort that we thought we would get before? It's like, because you can't, you literally can't make them and expect to get an Oscar. And so people just aren't going to make them. And it's not that the Oscars in and of themselves are so important, but this is the way just about every institution in our society works. And to go to our main point today, which is, of course, Virginia, this is the first thing they do when they take power because we look at the kinds of laws that have been introduced in Virginia in terms of gun control, in terms of setting aside grants that are going to enable the kind of welfare fraud that we saw in Minnesota, seemingly as a kind of example that they actually looked at the fraud that has been exposed and said, no, we actually want to do that in terms of promoting a corrupt political class that exents itself from its own laws that they've done with guns, in terms of this referendum, which is coming up, which will basically strip political representation from all of central and western

4:13Virginia and essentially make the entire thing ruled by Northern Virginia. Well, actually, I could backtrack real quick. It basically strip all power from almost all Virginians and cycle it through Northern Virginia because every district in the remapping, it goes through Northern Virginia. So that's the focal point. And then it funnels out all across the state, a state that is actually in some ways rather than a place like, in places, I should say, than Alabama and Georgia because Virginia is wider than Alabama and Georgia and Mississippi. But because you have this concentration of post-1965 Immigration Act, 1980 Refugee Act, it's all been concentrated and situated upon the Leviathan that is Northern Virginia and the outgrowth of Washington DC, that's what they want to do now is concentrate power from all these districts, one district, one city to rule them all, basically. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly right.

5:14And of course, this is the model because if you look at what Virginia represents in terms of the culture of the country, I mean, short of Massachusetts is probably the single most important state in terms of the founding country, in terms of the identity and everything else. And they essentially unmade it within the span of a decade. And it was purely through immigration, but it was also immigration within the country because of what Northern Virginia became, which is essentially this colony of the federal government. I mean, this is why the deal that was cut to have the federal government be in the south between Jefferson and Hamilton was overwhelmingly the worst deal ever created in American history because what Jefferson did in the long run is basically doom his own state into becoming essentially part of the North. And that's that's a very tough thing to say, you know, also we'll touch on the fact that the the Democrats now in charge of Virginia, the state legislature, the governor's office, they've also declared war on the traditions of the state Virginia military to defunding

6:17VMI. There are a couple Confederate statues still standing actually on the capital grounds, which they are targeting for removal. It makes you wonder how much longer that gorgeous Georgia Washington statue has considering that if you've been in Richmond recently, they removed of course in 2020, 2022, virtually all relics of the Confederacy, except for Hollywood Cemetery, which is privately owned, which I encourage all of our listeners to go check out at some point. But they do have this massive statue of a freed black slave, replete with pelts marks on his back from being whipped, which is right there along the James. It's actually very close to the Virginia military museum. It's a beautiful, beautiful city, but they've denuded it of its history. And basically what we're going to see now over the next four years is this sprint into the future as white to become dispossessed, not just culturally, spiritually, but politically

7:20as well. Yeah. And by the way, and I do want to close out one conversation. One battle after another, actually one best picture. So centers would, yeah, but of course, that's even worse in some ways. I mean, basically, you basically have the choice between the anti-white vampire movie and the anti-faw promotion movie gives me something to talk about on the on the show tomorrow, though. I mean, I was thinking about something coming before you could go in. What's that? Basically, every great movie is no, it would no longer even be eligible. We can tell that you're eating, by the way. I know. I know. I had to, I could get you some protein in me. Hey, look, every great movie that you love that you've watched 10, 15 times would be an eligible. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is one of the things I think people really do need to understand, especially just everyone wants to know people will be talking about AI and restricting it and everything

8:20else. It's just like Hollywood as an institution at this point just needs to be burned to the ground. There's no, there's no saving it. There's never going to be another good movie again. There's not going to be at least not one that the industry as a whole is going to celebrate and people will, oh, no Gibson in the siege of Malta or something like that. Yeah, we'll see if they even let them make it. And one of the things I think really needs to be understood by everybody is it's not about money. Like the money. There comes a point where, especially in culture, where in industry becomes so big that you're just guaranteed enough money and it doesn't matter what kind of quality you put out. And more of the point, they're willing to lose money. I mean, you had Maggie Jill and Hall put out that kind of weird feminist Frankenstein movie that she just put out, which of course bombed. They lost, however many millions of dollars, but nobody cares. No, no lessons are learned, no behavior will be changed. She'll get the brag about it forever. I'm sure they'll give some award or whatever it is.

9:23And also I think that it's very interesting in the sense that maybe this leads us back into Virginia and the larger place where we're going as a country. What we've learned especially with blacks is that they're the model consumers. I mean, if this is a horror movie centers anyway, it's a horror movie quote unquote, but it's really about black fragility and neuroticism. And the fact that they just can't, they have this persecution conflict that utterly defines them. But if you make slop that caters to it, you will be rewarded. Like they will go see it. And they're not the majority. So you're not going to get a huge audience. I don't know a single white person who watched this movie in the theater. I saw. I saw it. I saw an instrument. I take that back. Yeah. But if you, and I know you saw it because it's kind of your job, I mean, I don't know a person who was like, you know what I'll see today? Anybody like that? I'm certainly not going to see it. But think about what this means in terms of politics. If you make these sorts of comments politically saying, well, let's use a specific example

10:28as Joe Biden said when Romney was earning, they're going to put y'all back in chains, which is an insane thing to say, but he was rewarded for doing so. And if you make the most outrageous things about the say back today, oh, this is Jim Crow, 2.0 and everything else, having to present a driver's license to be able to vote as fascism, all these sorts of things. Like this is what they respond to, culturally, financially, politically. And so what does that mean for the future of the country? There's something really interesting that happened to the Academy Awards last night. Every year they honor those actors and actresses, Kevin, who passed away the prior year between the production of the Oscars of say 2025 to today. One of the great Thesbians, yes, I use that term, of the past 70 years was Robert Duval, a son of Virginia. He was not mentioned. He was snubbed. They celebrated Rob Reiner, who was killed. They did. They didn't mention Robert Duval. They did not mention Robert Duval, a guy who I believe won an Academy Award for, what, the Godfather. He was a similar actor.

11:29He was in one of the great series of all time, Lonesome Dove, anything he was in, even if it was a bit part, he instantly elevated it. You go back and watch something like Days of Thunder, which is Tony Scott's, I would argue it's better than Top Gun, because it glorifies NASCAR and a way that captured it at its peak when it was still the Winston Cup, and they still allowed the Confederate flag. It's an amazing film, 1990. Oh, God's in Generals, of course, it was Robert E. Lee, who I think he was actually descended from. He was descended from Robert E. Lee, in fact, yeah, he lived. He has a nephew who lives not far from Fort Royal, who I've actually met a number of times. Again, just in passing, who looks exactly like him, by the way, bald, nice guy, just a son of the South, a son of Virginia. You would think that here's a guy who was instrumental in moving the craft forward, but of course, that's all been retarded and impeded by this zeal, this drive, this lust for diversity

12:31and everywhere. I was watching. I love watching the making of movies, because in a lot of ways, those are sometimes better than watching the movie itself, because you get to see how much heart, soul, effort went into a mass production of something like, say, Braveheart. I didn't see Braveheart until about 2000, 2001. It came out in 95, so I was far too young to watch it in 95, but I'm watching the making of feature with Mel Gibson made about 15 years after, and they're talking about how here's a guy who directed the film. He had to do all the storyboards. He was responsible for the daily budgets. You know, you're talking about a guy who has to pay and budget for 2000 plus people eating every day to make sure that they're meeting the budget, to make sure they're meeting the deadline for the film to be done so they can cut it. He's acting as the main role, and everyone's talking about how insane this was, and then it shows Mel Gibson. He goes, you know, when it was all over, I couldn't really form a sentence. For three months.

13:32I was so depleted, I had lost, I had lost everything, all energy, because I'd put it all into this film, and you watch something like sinners, or you go back to what we're seen in Virginia, and you're seeing how effortless, Kevin, how effortless the left is and implementing unbelievable changes so quickly, no debate, no consternation over, is this legal? You do it, and that's sort of a microcosm for the right versus the left, the right. You know, think about all that time and effort we put into Trump back in 2015, 2016, 2017, Port of Heart and Soul, and to seeing this transformation in the country. We had been doing it since 2008, 2009, trying to lay the groundwork for a lot of this stuff that was picked up by other people, and you go back to the movie reference, think about watching Peter Jackson, and how they meticulously did every aspect of the film to create the set, to create the decor, to create the outfits and try and be as meticulous as they could

14:35to Tolkien's dream and Tolkien's vision by consulting the Lord of the Rings, the three books constantly, to make sure that they had the right effect, and they got the right to sit in structure and how it was going to be presented. And those movies wouldn't be eligible to be awarded anymore, and now it's just, hey, make something as crappy as you can, as long as this message is, white people are terrible, white people suck. The Antifa are the greatest, like you said, in one battle after another, which is, we only get into that movie is about, but it is an antifa film about battling a white nationalist government, and then centers is basically a movie where, hey, vampires are bad, but guess what, the clans still come to kill you at the end after you've survived the vampires. That's how the movie ends. Spoiler. Right. That's it. I mean, it's, it's fanfishing, essentially. I mean, this is Reddit fanfishing, but it's become mainstream culture, and this is true of their approach to politics, which is a real point, because if you look at Virginia and

15:37you look at the source of bills that they're introducing, and look at the things that have already happened, where you have this case where there was somebody who has been arrested a million times, incidentally, at the same last name as the terrorist that just attacked that Old Dominion University. Incredible. Yeah. I mean, what are the odds? And both from Sierra Leone or something. And what's remarkable is, if you look at Virginia up until even 23 years ago, there was essentially no immigration. I mean, the South was basically untouched by the great waves of immigration. Right. Again, it was what America was supposed to be, and it remained what America was supposed to be, up until recently. But it is precisely the center right that decided that Virginia needs to be the home of all these businesses and everything else, certainly when I first moved to Virginia, that was when the transformation was beginning, where you had all these major industries moving there, you had the defense companies moving there, you had the government workers moving there, you had Northern Virginia basically set up as this extremely prosperous economic engine, and I think the theory was that it would drive forward the rest of the state, but it

16:37doesn't work that way. It's not these people who are there are not content with just being rich, and they're not content with just being rich from taxpayer money. They have to transform the rest of the state. They have to import their little slave class to work in the restaurants and modal lawns and everything else. You have to, which of course then means that instead of these prosperous towns up north, you have very divided a set up in Northern Virginia because you have these unbelievable sprawling estates in Northern Virginia, and then if you go out a little bit and you get to the more rural areas up there, you still have these unbelievable, like, wine growing plantations or it almost looks like it would ever else, but during the campaign, they would all have Harris Waltzines. It was overwhelmingly liberal and what was remarkable, I know I've referred to this in the past, but when I lived in Harper's Ferry, I mean, you're just across the border. I mean, there's no difference between Harper's Ferry and, you know, what is just across the border of Virginia. It's the same, it's the same geography, it's the same everything, but you literally just

17:38cross this line, this totally artificial line, which doesn't separate anything in terms of geography or any kind of like natural division or anything like that. And instantly, the political divide is total. You go from every single house being Harris Waltz to every single house being Trump vans. And it was just because if you are in Virginia, you move there because you are livelihood and your status depends, in some sense, on what's going on in Northern Virginia, whereas if you're in West Virginia, you're not. You've got to job somewhere else. You're doing something different. And even though on paper, you're part of the same region. And one thing that I think we're going to see with Virginia is that a lot depends on how this referendum works out. But if anything could break up the state, this is what's going to do it. I mean, I live here in Lynchburg and Lynchburg, Virginia is actually resisting it quite. I would almost say in an exaggerated way because the states are that high.

18:40I mean, the city council has put out a thing basically saying we're going to continue to work with ICE. It's denounced the redistricting plan. It's said that it's not there's some talk of it being renewed as a sanctuary city in terms of guns, not immigration. So the gun laws will have no, I mean, presumably state police or whatever can still enforce it, but the locals aren't going to do it. So in some sense here in Lynchburg, we've essentially seceded from Virginia in order to remain loyal to the federal government. And this is the kind of thing. I think we're going to see more and more often because when you take a step back and look at the battles that have been going on over immigration with the United States in terms of the states and localities, you have a choice. I mean, you can remain loyal to your state or your locality or you can remain loyal to federal immigration law, but you can't be both. And I think the states and the localities that decide to go with, let's be blunt, the Trump administration, if people talk about secession, people talk about separatism, people

19:44talk about what the battle lines would be, this is what the battle lines are going to be. And confidently say that the states and localities that say, no, we're going to continue to enforce immigration law in defiance of what these other guys are doing. Those are the people who are going to be red America if things ever go completely haywire. Well, what's fascinating is an escape from Los Angeles, John Carpenter's 1998 film. The federal government moves the capital of the United States to Lynchburg, probably for fall for fall well in purpose. They probably are like, oh, the religious right, exactly. It's supposed to be an attack on that. But you're exactly, you're exactly right. You're looking at what's happening with the exodus of businesses and high earners from Washington state where they passed a very onerous billionaire tax, Howard Schultz, the CEO of Starbucks is basically the camp that said, yep, we're out. See you later. Same thing happened in California, they passed the billionaire's tax. And basically Miami, Austin, Texas, Nashville, Atlanta, Georgia are where corporations are

20:47immediately looking to relocate to. In Virginia, one of the first things that happened was Boeing was set up in Northern Virginia. Cameron was Tyson's corner or rest in town center. But they said, hey, we're out. We'll see if we're going to Missouri. And Missouri is often overlooked as a great state, Kevin, but it is a state that remains virtually untouched by refugee resettlement and the Mass 1965 Immigration Act, a heart seller. It's a state that's basically white, black, and it is dominated now by, in my opinion, the best elected representatives in the country and the two senators, they've got great congressmen. They actually produce one of the attorney general I believe now works for the Trump administration and you're right. You are seeing this unbelievable dichotomy, which I don't think you or I can have ever thought would happen. Where, wow, wait a second, the feds are actually the good guys. There is no anti-federalist movement that we can be a part of because there can never

21:50be a right-left coalition. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is what I said yesterday, and I know a lot of people are going to be upset about this. I might have to talk about more on the show and just take the hits. Because I try to kind of stay on board with everybody, but I mean, at a certain point, it's just like guys, I don't know what you're talking about. There seems to be this idea that we're going to get this right-left coalition against whatever you consider to be the primary enemy or whatever thing really bothers you. But the problem at this point is that I would say right and left are essentially defined by the way one feels about race. I mean, the left is defined by being anti-white. The right are the people who are not anti-white, that doesn't mean the pro-white, but they certainly have problems with the way the left is attacking white people as such. Now the right is, of course, weaker, so they might say, well, it's about individualism, it's about free markets, it's about the Constitution or whatever else. But nonetheless, the left is defined by being anti-white. And so if you say, well, we're going to ally with the left on this one thing.

22:50And let's use the most popular example. They'll say, oh, well, we're going to ally with the left against like Zionism or something like that. The reason the left is going after Israel or the reason the left goes after something else is very different than the reason you may be going after it, if indeed you are. And you could say, well, the left doesn't understand the real issue at the end. We're going to get to win or do something like that. I'm just going to go out there and say the left probably understands it better than you do. The left understands the reason that they're pursuing these things is fundamentally to keep power from going to you in some ways. And so if you think you're going to form a coalition with them and then somehow on the other end here, you get to win or you'll be able to even in a better tactical position, that's a very presumptuous thing to say. Given that we can't even openly fight in our own defense. We can't even say that the right is pro-white. We can't even say that there's a meaningful pro-white lobby in this country. And yet we think we're going to like ally with the left in order to accomplish, be it

23:54anti-scientism, be it anti-corporate, I mean, you hear people talking about this, anti-corporate America, sort of economic populism, all these sorts of things. It doesn't work that way because the people who draw up the bills, the people who draw up the legislation, the people who set these policies make sure that these things are anti-white. So if they, if you attack, is the reason they attack Israel because they regard it as a white settler or colonialist state or whatever it else, it doesn't matter if you think it's true. If Israelis think it's true, it doesn't matter if it's true in some metaphysical sense, I would say that's not true, obviously, but they think it is. And they would establish this principle as extending to America and to Canada and to Australia and everything else, as indeed they have in policies in many ways. I was just reading today, now already, in Canada, they British Columbia ceded to some random Indian tribe the right of sovereignty. And so what do you think they're doing? They're kicking out like, yeah, they're writing letters, saying, that they might like take the land of various white people.

24:54This has already happened in one place. I don't want to tell you. Here's 2.0 for our poor white people, right? And if you think of corporations where they say, oh, whether it's a classified, there's the economic thing, we need to unite based on class grievances with the left to try to get back these capitalists, yeah, certainly the big business is not white America's friend. But then when you look at how these sorts of policies are implemented, again, let's look at Virginia. What they do is they say, oh, we're going to have unlimited funding for like daycare centers, both regulated and unregulated. IE, we're going to allow you to do what happened in Minnesota. And this is going to be used almost entirely by various non-white ethnic groups. It is not going to be, we are setting up these programs that you as a white person get to use. It's going to be, no, non-whites get special programs that you get to pay for. It's the same way that if you're non-white, it's very easy. To go down to the welfare office and go down disability or something. But if you're a white person, you've got to hire a lawyer, you've got to jump through

25:57all these hoops, you might have private detectives like spying on you to make sure you can actually work, like the system just does not work the same way for everybody. And so when people say, oh, we're going to have a left-right populist alliance. On paper, I can identify not just Zionism, but and not just anti-corporateism, you could call it, maybe even on trade. You can identify quite a few issues where that seems to make sense. But then when you get down to practicality about how this would actually work, it's not going to work because they're never going to work with you. They're never going to allow you to be in the same room as them. And this is the fundamental thing. Nobody says, I'm beyond left and right unless you're on the far right. Like if you tell me that, I know you're on the far right. You're just embarrassed about it because you don't want to be thought of as like a magatard, you don't want to be thought of as Republican, you don't want to be thought of as just like a normal red-state person because you want to be something different. Well, every single leftist is quite comfortable with calling themselves a leftist. They know what they are. They know what they're about and they're defined by their hatred of you.

27:00So how are you going to form any kind of alliance with people whose main political motivation is hating you? Speaking of the main political motivation, this hating you, one of the first acts that the CIA governor of Virginia did upon taking office was to stop working with all local police jurisdictions and sheriffs when it came to honoring detainers. And that's one of the main reasons why in Northern Virginia, we saw Stephanie Mentor, a 30-year-old white mother from Fredericksburg, Virginia, she was at a bus stop and she was stabbed to death by the Sierra Leonean there a couple weeks ago, who had 30 prior arrests for violent crime. He was actually known by police as being a threat. Probably one of the reasons why he was let out, Gavin, I hate to say that. I think that there's increasingly obvious that there is nothing but contempt on the side of the left. And as we saw with the French Revolution and the left always unload the jail's population back on the law abiding to create a steering and havoc and loss of life of the law abiding.

28:02I mean, look, which has happened in Old Dominion. You have a guy who in 2016 was what an army officer, not an army officer, but he was enlisted. And he is spying, working with ISIS. This guy should have been executed immediately. I keep seeing people like, oh, he should have been tried and repatriated, remigrated. It's like, no, this is treason. He's working with ISIS. You kill the guy. What type of military code are we living by anymore? Well, he's out after what, eight, nine years in jail. First thing he does, he goes to Old Dominion there in Norfolk, Virginia. And he was, you know, he kills this lieutenant colonel, this, this, this black officer who was highly decorated, but he was seduced. And I thought the, I thought the way the FBI described how he was handled was one of the funniest things that that inadvertently they've ever said. But at the same time, it's just, why is this guy not dead already 10 years ago? I mean, he worked with ISIS and here he is now roaming the commonwealth and you have

29:05to ask yourself how many other scores, you know, hundreds of people are like that, like, like these two Sierra Leoneans who were here for the express purpose of making life miserable for the actual Virginia people. Yeah. I mean, this is what's so frustrating about when you look at what happened with O.D. you where, I mean, notice to the district attorney after this happened goes out and starts giving a little speech about guns and whatever else. Yeah. I mean, there's not, there's not even, there's no acknowledgement that this has happened. There's no acknowledgement that maybe these policies set things in motion. You've got the governor or Spanberger being like, oh, I was an intelligence analyst, you know, of course, the reliance on credentials. I have serious problems about this stuff. It's like, well, you know what you did after you were at the CIA's, you taught us some Islamic academy in northern Virginia. Why are there Islamic academies in northern Virginia? I mean, as an intelligence analyst, you know, probably better than most why these people were brought into the country, what hidden agenda is being pursued if there is, in fact,

30:06a hidden agenda. I mean, certainly it's probably just as something as simple as like wanting to keep tabs on these people. But actually, the real problem is that these minority communities functioned the way Mal talked about the way Gorilla swim in the sea of the people. I mean, what you're doing is you're essentially importing a sea, right? You're importing a body of water that these people can swing amongst because 30 years ago, you wouldn't have to worry about some raghead like running around in Virginia because it weren't any. But now when you've got, however many hundreds of thousands of them, they can operate with essentially total impunity and it doesn't matter if you have unlimited surveillance. It doesn't matter if you have the XCIA people teaching at the Islamic academies. It doesn't matter if you have all these complicated programs to try to keep track of any of them. You're just not able to do it. You don't have unlimited vampire. You don't have unlimited resources. And also, if you try to actually do surveillance of these things, you're going to get sued by these civil rights groups who say you're not allowed to sue on any of these people. So what do you do to justify your budget, to justify everything you're doing to give

31:08yourself some sort of status? You're going to say, well, actually, the far right is the real problem. You're going to crack down on that. I mean, this brings us, of course, to the gun control that Virginia is pushing through. It's not going to be enforced against non-whites, it's just not a thing. The point of it is basically to overnight turn everybody in this state who essentially was white and a world voter into a criminal. And so at any given point, if the police somehow let themselves into your house or something happens, they can be like, oh, you've got a magazine that's too big. You don't have your gun in a special safe. You don't have this out of the other thing. Well, I've got to push back because you are grandfathered in. So our grandfathered in, but that amount of the storage stuff. Oh, that's true. I mean, again, this is this, it's so fascinating to think that on 66 when you're driving the gun storage is a bad idea. I mean, I have a lock in cabinet for mine because, but I got kids, right? But that's not the point. The point is that most people are not going to know this even happened.

32:09Correct. So like if you're some guy in wherever, in rural Virginia, and for whatever reason, you have some sort of a dealing with law enforcement and they let themselves in and you've got a gun over your fireplace or something, guess what, you're a criminal. Well, it's it is shocking to think that a state that when you're driving down 66, you can see that massive NRA headquarters, I've been there many times. Yep. I used to go shooting there when I was when I was at leadership institute, I used to take the corporate credit card and buy ammunition and take the take the kids from the local student groups there as like a activist event because I've been in some high level meetings at the NRA and I told him you got to start thinking about racing guns and they looked at me. Like I had just called for the fourth Reich. Yeah. I wonder what they would say now, uh, well, they'd probably say, well, Wayne Lupier's gone. So we have a lot more money, uh, instead of having to spend it all on his, uh, I mean, this, this, this is a bigger point.

33:10This is something that I think we should actually get into a little bit that there was a report maybe three years ago, which talked about the difference between DNC spending and the R&C spending. And the R&C has a lot more money right now. So who knows if this is still true, but the DNC, most of what they were spending was on GOTV. It was on, it was essentially on the things that you'd imagine a political party would spend its money on. But when you look at the R&C, most, and this is something Peter Brimlow would always tell me about, they were spending all the money on, cause, on consultants, yeah, and they were spending a huge amount of money on food, they were spending a huge amount of money on an entertainment, a tire, they were spending money on, yeah, a tire, right. And it's like, why am I here? Right. Yeah, right. It's like, if I, I've never donated to the party, uh, and if I was donated to the party, I wouldn't say it on this program because, you know, five or one, three and whatever else.

34:11But I've never actually donated to the Republican party or any party for that matter. But if I did, I wouldn't want my money spent on some guy's suit. I'd want it spent on winning elections or building party infrastructure, like doing the kinds of things you would expect hiring people. Yeah. And I think, and, but this, I think this is what, actually, I'm going to have to write up something about this. I think this is what unites the sort of far right grifter element with the party hack. And what, what do I mean by far right grifter, take a look at, I'll give you an example. There are these two black guys called the Hodge twins. Oh, yeah. Lightskin brothers, yeah. Right. And on X, they're always, oh, Israel is, uh, you know, enslaving America and all this kind of stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Fine. Okay. That's your position. But wait a minute. Then you go on Facebook and it's like, Israel is our great ally and it's helping America fight terrorists. Yeah. And that's like all their content on Facebook. So they're saying something totally opposite on Facebook that they're saying on X.

35:12Why are they doing this? Because yeah, they know the audience is just engagement. They're just promoting something different and you're like, oh, okay. So like this is all fake. Like I don't actually have to like listen to anything you're saying because if somebody wants to argue about Israel, whatever, like I'm, I'm very willing to listen it, obviously, but like this, I'm not, I don't have to listen to this. Like this is obviously just a scam. I mean, you might as well be like promoting a crypto coin or something performative. Yeah. But this is the thing, the fundamental mindset here is the same with somebody who was working at the RNC back in the day. I can't speak for it now or somebody who was working at some of these conservative nonprofits where it has Joe sober and said it's a game. It's a way of making a living. And here's the key, whether you're on the so-called far right or whether you're a party hack, the presumption of defeat. Because if you actually were invested in the outcome, you wouldn't be doing this. You would regard donations that come in the way of soldier regards ammunition.

36:14You know, it's an essential resupply for fighting the struggle. Whereas if you assume you're going to lose and the point of being in politics is basically to get what you can so then you can move away from the consequences, this is how you would act. And this is how all too many people act on the so-called far right and you can think of plenty of people on X who operate this way, total scammers, total grifters. And I'm not talking about like people I disagree with. I don't mean that. Like even people who may be like critics of mine or something, I respect the guys who have gone through it, have a message and stick to it year in year out. And we can certainly think of a lot of people who have suffered quite a bit for holding to their position who might think like people like you and I are too moderate or something. I'm not referring to those people at all. I'm referring to people above all who say one thing on X and say something totally different on Facebook. I'm referring to the people who are promoting obvious scams. I'm talking about people who preach like a certain ideology but follow something totally

37:15different in their own lives and they're doing it because they're just obviously trying to rip people off. To me, there's no difference between that and somebody at the RNC who's blowing all your money on haircuts and suits and lobster dinners. This is the tragedy of the conservative movements that it's for a movement that was supposedly about limited government and supposedly about fighting the state. It is so totally reliant on the spectacle of politics. And in so many ways, the fact that it's centered in northern Virginia and is therefore a product of this parasite that essentially ate the old dominion, it fits in so many ways. I think one of the horrifying things about the past six years is that Maha really got started in Virginia because in 2022, when young and ran, you saw a lot of young moms, females who normally wouldn't be that invested in the political process gravitate toward

38:19him because of the COVID insanity that we just lived through. And a lot of people were really talking about this is we've got to get back to personal control, all these mandates of having the vacs, the booster. This is nonsense. And a lot of from what I heard from people, that was something that you saw. It wasn't a conspiratorial element toward the campaign and a lot of places, Kevin, but that was what was driving a lot of the interest because young people was talking about, hey, let's kind of get past this. Let's open things up completely and no more mandated boosters. Because Virginia had in some places like North of Virginia, I was up there during COVID and you would still see into 2023 people driving around with their car windows rolled up wearing masks. And I just remember thinking this is, this is insane. How is this one of those people who would yell at you if you weren't wearing masks back in 2020, 2021? And here you are in 2023 and they're still wearing a mask in their car to protect them from COVID.

39:20I mean, that was a place that was ground zero in epicenter for the COVID insanity because it was so connected to the government apparatus. And like you've said, you have the industrial, the military industrial complex with all this subsidiaries. You've got Accenture, Booz Allen, Ernst and Young, Deloitte, basically littering the area with tall buildings that you'll see, like, oh, there's another Deloitte contractor right there. And Fairlakes or Fairlakes, whatever, and you drive down Dulles, the toll road to the airport. And you see this just massive campus near the Reston Town Center and all these skyscrapers going up every time you drive by, another one's going up, it's like, oh, Ernst and Young's going up there. Okay, great. Amazon, of course, moved into Virginia. They passed all these tax laws to give them great deals for their second campus. Goodness gracious, they're building a data center on the campus of where GW used to be in North of Virginia, some $300 million deal.

40:21I mean, it's extraordinary to see what existed there, you know, 30, 40 years ago, this infrastructure, this blueprint of a city, of a great state. And yet why I bring all this up is White Papers Policy Institute, which is one of the fantastic Twitter accounts. If you're not following them, it's at White Papers poll, White Papers P-O-L. And they wrote this about Virginia. Very few Americans understand just how unrecognizable Virginia has become in 1980 Virginia was not a diverse place. The foreign-born population was just 3.3%, 60% of the population had been born in the state. And 72% were born in the South. Virginia looked the same as it had since before independence. A white Southern majority, largely composed of the same British-Islet stock that colonized the land. And hey, an African American minority. More than 300 years of stable demography. Virginia looks wildly different today, just 45 years later.

41:2414% of the state's population is foreign-born. First and second generation immigrants combined are 21% of the state's population. Native-born Virginians are a minority, 48% of the state's population. The colonial stock and their descendants who settled Virginia, those great Cavaliers, and the South, 35% to 38% of the state's modern population. People born out of state, well, they're fleeing from New York, California, and Ohio, primarily upstate New York in a lot of ways. They're now more people born in India, living in Virginia than there are people born in West Virginia, living in the Old Dominion. Northern Virginia and Richmond have been largely heavily colonized by Indians, who again, they come in and the ethnic, just, you see them everywhere in rural Virginia and it's this is all because of those small business loans, but the Trump administration just ended where they basically, they had access to certain kinds of funding that you do

42:25not, and they can play this game, I mean, this has been broken down elsewhere, they can play this game where essentially they get this giant loan, and then they can hand it over to a relative, so you don't have to pay back the loan, and then you just keep doing it and doing it and doing it, so essentially you just get free money. This is why you go to the middle of nowhere, and you see some gas station, you stop there because there's no other gas station, and lo and behold, you're dealing with Indians, and everything is off the charts expensive, and you're looking at this food, this food has been bought with EBT, and then they put it into the gas station, I mean, like the scams just never, ever, ever end, and you are constantly told that this is being done for the economy, for the economy, for the economy, but it's not, like it's not, nobody's getting anything from this, like nobody, no actual Virginians are getting anything from this, like this whole model needs to be broken down, and let us say this, if you look at West Virginia, which, God almighty, do I want to go back home to West Virginia, if you have no idea,

43:25if you look at West Virginia, yeah, right, if you look at West Virginia, it's something like 90 to 9, I think, Republicans to Democrats in the Senate, but they still can't get through, like tough immigration laws, because you get this, this weird wraparound type model where, if you have a deep red state, West Virginia, Oklahoma, something like that, people were run as Republicans, because that's the only way you can get elected, but they're not actually Republicans, think of John Curtis, this Utah Senator, who was the reason Jeremy Carl couldn't get that position at the State Department, and he had spent most of his career as a Democrat, and then he was all Republican, he gets elected, and of course, then he just keeps acting like a Democrat, well, same sort of thing, you have in West Virginia, you have these right wingers, obviously there are some, but then you have a lot of Republicans who are actually Democrats, because they ran as Republicans, similar way to get elected, but more to the point, you also have this insane thought on the right, where they just

44:31go, nope, the purpose of being here, the purpose of being on the right is the economy, the economy, and immigration is good for the economy, so we can't actually crack down on immigration regardless of what our voters want, because I am here to deliver for business, and so even in Idaho, even in West Virginia, even in Oklahoma, even in Utah, you have all these efforts to try to push through tough immigration laws, and they get through the house, no problem, and then they get to the Senate and they die, and they die in the Senate of the state legislature because these people do not want to get in the way of cheap labor, because that's what they think being on the right is about, and all you have to do is look at Virginia to see where this path ends, and this is why I think it was attributed to Lenin, I don't know if he actually said it, but Saul Linsky definitely said it, which is that you can have the capitalist will sell you the rope on Friday, you have the revolution on Saturday, and then you hang him on a Sunday, and there's Thor is making his displeasure known with the capitalist class as I'm sitting here, and but this is the thing is that fundamentally, this is

45:38a position we're in, and I'm already thinking about what the show is going to be like the livestream is going to be like this week, or we do them to try to just save these idiots from themselves, like is this what it is to be on the right, because you sit down and you explain this to them, and you get this look of like bovine incomprehension from these Republican hacks, and then you skip forward ten years and lo and behold what you predicted happened as it just did happen in Virginia, and nobody learns anything, they just kind of keep doing it, and the reason is not because, I mean, in some cases they're stupid, but in many cases it's because they just don't care, they've made their money, and they leave, and to some extent this is also true of the sort of managerial liberalism, I mean, the former prime minister of New Zealand, who they gave all these awards to, because after the Christ Church shirting, she pushed through all this anti-white stuff and cracked down on free speech and did all the stuff, which of course, you know, talked to a good game

46:40about like empathy and kindness and all the stuff, which of course, usually means unlimited government, well, she just left the country, she's not in office anymore, she emigrates from the country, I think she moved to Australia, and it's like what does that tell you about the leadership class of managerial liberalism, where basically they destroy the country, and then they just leave, because they've never had a stake in it to begin with. I mean, this, our whole model is just fundamentally wrong, and this is, this is fundamentally, I, I, where we want to end it, and I do have to end it in like 10 minutes, but the, I mean, this is the fundamental problem is that for so long, really for the last decade, we've just been like, all right, as far as the right goes, been in the wilderness, and then basically hits the wagons to Trump and just see where this goes, and now one way or the other this is ending, either because people aren't mad about them, or because even if you're not mad about them, because, I mean, he's just not going to be there, right? And what comes next,

47:43and it's just so clear that within the existing system, I'm not sure there's a way you can ever truly win, because it's, it's set up in such a way where every decision that you make that is actually productive, where you actually make life better for people in a way actually furthers your own doom. And Virginia is an ultimate example of this. Our last governor, Duncan, was by all accounts fairly popular, lower taxes, kept expenditures down. I mean, he was a competent administrator. That's what he was, right? And if you look at the economic things that he was able to do, he was good. I mean, he actually life was better because he was governor. In terms of the taxes were down. And what it ultimately enabled is for the left to come in and have, hey, thanks for the more money we can use to destroy things, which means that you ultimately shouldn't do any of these economic management things. Well, no, because actually they've also given themselves a raise as well. Right, right. I mean, thank you for that surplus, governor.

48:45Right. I mean, this is where, I mean, you can, you can agonize and you can, you can try to pursue efficiency and you can do all these sorts of things. And then like in the next administration, they will literally, they passed a lot, well, I don't know if they passed it. They introduced the law saying, you are not allowed to check to see if somebody is eligible for welfare. Like, you're not even allowed to check to see if there's fraud now. Like, that's where they go with this. And you showed up, you showed a problem and sorry, guys, go to find them. Right. And so now, so the obvious question is not like, well, okay, well, you know what these people are, you know what they're going to do. Why are you trying to make the system more efficient for them to use? But of course, then when you get, I mean, this is, I'm just kind of thinking now loud here, but this is something which is going through my head. Because then the next thing is like, well, then you shouldn't be just content with trying to save these people from themselves. You need a revolutionary movement that goes beyond left and right. And it's like, yeah,

49:47how's that working out? Like, who is it going to be? Whose votes are you going to win? What are you promising people? Because usually it's kind of just runs off into the fantasy land of we're going to pursue, you know, oh, something about American foreign policy. And we're going to challenge corporate power, Zionism or something like that. It's like, I'm not even saying I'm opposed to any of that. But what does that have to do with running for state legislature? What does that have to do with being governor? What does that have to do with running for city council? Like, what are you going to tell these people? Yeah, I mean, like these are, because it's not, it's not that these grand critiques of power are wrong necessarily. It's that at some level, there has to be a vision for how do you actually get to political power? And how do you actually win seats? I remember there was a, my friend and I were joking where there was some far right party in Europe. This was like 15 years ago. And they were running for like city council. And I don't even know. It was like Copenhagen or something ridiculous, right? And they were running for city

50:48council. And the guy's top issue was like trying to get a posthumous pardon for Rudolph Hess or something like that. It's like nobody cares, man. Like people want to know like what you're going to do about the sewers. People want to know about what you're going to do about crime. People want to know what you're going to do about this stuff. It's not that there isn't a role for these kind of grand critiques or vanguardist thought. But at the, at the most fundamental level, politics 101, and this is my closing point, it needs to be focused on the interplay of patrons and clients. And if you look at the left, they are competent politics. First thing they do, they come in, they set up all these programs, they say, okay, you are going to get paid by us through these things. You, there are these programs we have set up, you are going to get these things. This is how it's going to work. And then you look at what's going on with the right. And it's like, we're going to

51:49kind of tinker at the edges of the system. And maybe your power bill will be like $10 a month less than it would have been if the Democrats are in charge. But then the Democrats are going to come right back in. And they're going to undo all this stuff anyway. So what was the point? I mean, this is essentially where we're at. Well, I look at, I'll close up with this. What's most fascinating about what's happened in Virginia was that it was a Bangladeshian born state senator named Saddam Salim, Saddam Aslan Salim of Dunlor in a Democrat who was the architect and author of this sweeping firearm bands. And you're thinking to yourself, this guy wasn't even in the country, you know, right? He wasn't here right before I was born. And now he is curtailing and restricting the rights that, what, 250, 270 years ago were something that the Virginians took for granted. And that they thought were God-given. They're not God-given. They could be taken away by aliens.

52:51And you get to, you get to see how quickly liberty actually vanishes when demographic change happens, Kevin. And I'm reminded of what just happened in Spain, where the center left coalition has decided, hey, you know what, we're going to go ahead and give citizenship and voting and the franchise to 500,000 illegal aliens, largely Africans who, hey, you know what? Consequently, it was USAID that bred this, this population that's invading Western Europe now. Thanks Americans. And we just learned this morning that Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez, a socialist posted unexpected gains in a regional ballot that halted what had seemed to be the unstoppable rise for the far right. Kevin, you have infinity Africans that USAID bred over 50 years, our tax dollars. It doesn't matter what Doge does to cut funding to some Ugandan AIDS activity or some Sudanese, you know, cancer program or potable water in Rwanda or Botswana. It's already baked into the system. These people

53:56are coming. They've come here. They've come from Bangladesh. They've come from India. We're seeing Europe now inundated and you have, you know, the far right that's tried to make gains, but they can be erased with immigration and immigration has been weaponized as we already talked about. Virginia is no longer Virginia. There's an Indian and an every grocery store and every little market and every little gas station and every hotel you go to and it wasn't this way, what, 20, 30 years ago. They were just, you know, the only Indian you would see would be on the Simpsons every Sunday night when you watched, when you watched that program on Fox and now we're living in a world where demographic change has happened and the consequences are real and Virginia shows you what the left is going to do when they take power. Yeah, there's new. It's that simple. And there's not. People who think that there's a layout within the system may be kidding themselves. I mean, of course, that doesn't mean that we can't engage with the system at all and at some level, any effort to destroy or change the system has to be launched from within the system at some level.

54:58I mean, this could include something as simple as having these counties break away from Virginia and join West Virginia, a bill that's already been introduced in the West Virginia legislature and was endorsed by the former governor of West Virginia, Jim Justice, who is now a senator in West Virginia. So it's not a fringe movement in the sense that, you know, when you have, when you have the other state being like, yeah, come on in, the water's fine. I mean, at that point, I think you could pull it off. But obviously, what's really going to happen is we're going to have to take, I mean, I don't think we can take a position on this, but on April 21st, when they have this referendum, which everybody sort of conceived that some level is unconstitutional. But the court is just allowing it because the court doesn't want to get yelled at because again, you know, they're left is serious and they appoint judges and the judges are appointed based on if they're going to rule the way they want. I mean, a court is a small legislature. That's all it is fundamentally. It's a political instrument. We will see what happens with this referendum. And if the referendum does not go the way I think Roe Virginia wants, then some interesting things might be a foot.

56:00But it will be appealed to the Supreme Court of the United States. That's what's fascinating. All this, we are, we are in some uncharted time. We are in some crazy times, folks. We get the birthright citizenship, Supreme Court decision looming. And you've got this situation in Virginia, which is where the Republic, in a lot of ways, it wasn't the Northeast. It wasn't Massachusetts. It was, it was Virginians. It's always a Virginia. If you look at the great men of our, our our nation and then those great men in 1860 to 1865 who tried to say, Hey, I think we've gone the wrong way here, pal. Their statues all might be gone, but that memory still remains. Yeah. A little Metallica reference, right? Right. I think that's a good place to end it. Hey, it's a great place to end it, but we have to be, we have to make sure that we ask our listeners if you enjoyed this program. Hey, get in touch with us. Tell us what we'll stop out next week because we live here at protonmail.com. Once again, because we live here at protonmail.com, that gets in touch with me. Go to the emberin.com contact contact us page again, touch with Kevin.

57:02Just make sure that you say this is about identity politics. I'm sorry, this is about view from the right. Most importantly, go over to rumble, follow identity politics. Kevin's putting out three amazing videos per week. He's doing some a lot of engagement now on Twitter. I believe with some live streams as well, which you should definitely watch. Oh, it's all through rumble, but yeah. Well, for Kevin, Deanna, this has been Paul Kursy. Our time's up. We thank you for yours.