The Good, the Bat and the Ugly

0:00What's up Los Angeles? Welcome to Love and Related Live from Hollywood. I'm John Love and we got a great show for you tonight, but first let's get into it. What a week. The vetting and male bankruptcy platform, Calche, instituted its first ever Lifetime Band against former GOP Congressman George Santos, which is crazy because Calche was invented by George Santos, said George Santos. Santos allegedly made at least $17,000 by betting against his own attendance at the State of the Union after posting that he was planning to be there and then not showing up. But can you blame him for giving in to the overwhelming temptation? With that kind of money, he could buy a used Kia Soul hatchback. According to a notice from the FDA, more than 10,000 cases of Hoto brand tofu

1:02have been recalled due to possible ink contamination. I don't see the problem. Sure the tofu tastes like ink, but at least it tastes like something. You got him. A forested island, the size of two football fields, reportedly appeared, then disappeared in British Columbia's largest lake last month. BC Hydro says it can't pinpoint the island's origins and they don't know where it's ended up either. They say the island can no longer be seen via satellite. Said Trump, how do we do that to Epstein's Island? It's Snickers News. Snickers launched a digital Snickers bar that customers can feed to an AI model when it replies with incorrect information, in case it's still hungry after all those rare books. This will be perfect. The next time Chattichy BT gives a teenager factually inaccurate information on how to kill himself. Said the candy company, whether it's a person losing their cool or an AI chat box consistently agreeing with you, the truth hasn't changed.

2:02When you're not acting like yourself, you may need a Snickers. Hey Snickers, fuck you. And here's why. You did it. You won candy bars. It's an annuity. At our office, we have big bags of many candy bars. And without fail, every bag ends the same way. You're digging through Milky Way's and three musketeers to find the last Snickers. So I have some gratitude. You show up at work at 11, you say, let's keep making Snickers in all the sizes. And everybody in the meeting applaud. You let some ad buyer take you to a two hour lunch, you drive home a little bit drunk, you argue with your wife or husband. About your kitchen reno and whether to pull your daughter from private school because she's the only kid in her class not on vi-vance. And then you take 10 million dollars of candy profits. You pay Andy Circus to put on a green suit covered in little dots. And have him say, I just don't feel like myself till I've had a Snickers. Then you're eruditing the most popular shows we have, football and murder trials. And then you get back to complaining about how you never take the boat out anymore. And maybe this weekend it will be nice to spend some quality time with your son,

3:02who you're worried about ever since you saw that his phone background was Luigi Mangione. All before you prove the latest innovation, Snickers. But this time they're fucking round. So shut up and make the candy bars and leave AI out of it. In bat news, a Virginia woman says she woke up on a recent morning to discover a bat crawling inside of her mouth. Some people have all the luck, but her health and human services secretary, R.F.K. Jr. Dr. Christa Edelman told the press she woke up from a dream that a cute little field mouse was shimming its way past her lips, only to reach up and pull out an actual bat and respond at the bat. So when you thought I was a mouse, you were fine with it. Imagine having a dream where a mouse is trying to force its way into your mouth and waking up to a reality that is worse. Said Dr. Edelman. I screamed and I was screaming repeatedly something to the extent of like,

4:02there's a bat in my mouth, the bat is trying to get in my mouth. Her husband replied, I can't understand you. Say it again slowly without a bat in your mouth. The bat was later tested for rabies, and fortunately the test came back negative. Good news, you won't die of rabies. Bad news, you'll live a long, healthy life haunted by the memory of the bat in your mouth. In other rabies news, three baby goats that were part of a traveling petting zoo in North Carolina have tested positive for rabies. Uh oh, said health and human services secretary R.F.K. Jr., a tiny hoof dangling from his lips. Prior to being tested, the goats visited an assisted living facility, a back to school event, and a nine year old's birthday party. They may have tested positive for rabies, but they've also tested positive for having an amazing summer. Fortunately, the theme of that child's birthday party was rabies, so it all worked out. In other grim medical news, a judge ruled that Harvard Medical School must pay a $53 million settlement

5:04over body parts stolen and sold on the black market by the school's former morgue manager. Great, so now I'm going to have to buy my black market human organs from Yale, blah. Scientists attending the American Chemical Society's small meeting presented the latest in plastic recycling technology, plastic cookies. But we already have those, they're called chewy chips of hoi. Let's face facts, we love them, they do taste weird. It is the weirdest tape we all know the flavor of chewy chips of hoi. It doesn't make any sense, we should not eat them. What is that flavor? Why have we all accepted, oh that's the cookie we love that tastes like chemicals. And is soft by the power of the devil. Using a 32 step process, researchers say they use a modified yeast to convert plastic into a vanilla flavored edible protein, which can then be 3D printed into cookie molds. The Pryone said the scientists trying to act normal, leaning forward as you place the cookie in your mouth, and then vaguely cringing as you take your first tentative bite.

6:05Good right, and you feel fine, added the scientist. Mock it all you want, but this is a safe and sustainable way to free up more water and electricity for data centers. So nations first and only jellyfish museum opened in Florida this summer, though personally if I wanted to spend a few hours looking at a dazzling array of invertebrates, I'd just turn on C-SPAN. Yeah sure. Scrooge director, Scrooge director Ty West said his take on Ebenezer Scrooge played by Johnny Dapp will explore the grey area in a Christmas carols depiction of the bitter miser. West explained that Ebenezer Scrooge is not perfect, but much of the blame for what went down rests squarely with Amber Heard. Zoom, the popular video conferencing app, has appointed a former Oracle CEO to its board of directors. That man's name, and this is real, Jeffrey E. Ebstin. But what were they supposed to do? Not a point to qualified man just because his name is Jeffrey Ebstin? Yes. The E stands for, yeah, it's Jeffrey Ebstin.

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10:10We'll have Garrett Reynolds and Bendola Krem out in just a moment. But first big announcement from us here at Crooked the first episode of our brand new series is out tonight still counting hosted by our friends Nate Silver, Galen Drook and Claire Malone. You might remember them as the data journalist behind 538 and with the midterms just a few months away, we thought it was time to get them back on the air each Wednesday evening. Nate Claire and Galen will dig into the latest in politics and pulling to break down what's happening why and what we can reasonably infer about what could happen next. They'll cover everything from elections to betting markets to AI with rigorous analysis and hot takes but no spin or false sense of certainty. Subscribe to still counting wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube at still counting podcasts. We are so excited that they've come to our network. It's great what they were so excited the gangs back together. Everybody do me a favor subscribe to still counting and please welcome to the stage. You have the biggest divas I know it's Bendola Krem and garrer Reynolds.

11:15Something like feeling a stage buckle under you to make you feel dainty and lingo. Oh stop. There we go. Hi, I love you to see you both you too. Great to see you as well now let's get into it. Let's do it. Dayla yes it's officially pumpkin spice latte season sure. Which means jinks and a la holiday tour is around the corner. How many years have you been doing this will be our ninth year doing this holiday tour. I know I know I know I look too young for that but it's yeah we started 2018. It was just like a little scrappy thing I think we did eight cities and it just grew real big and now we're doing 36 shows across the US and Canada in November and December. Wow it's awesome I'm excited I am too. Gareth yes John did you ever hear from Jay Leno about the impression you did on Pete Holmes podcast because I see this well let's just show a clip because I do see this about twice a quarter.

12:19I'm sorry and Leno did those in like 1989. Yeah I mean what I need to crunch into Chris the little chat is easy. I don't know yeah it was like that he's like cool range what if that just a chill farmer. It goes on and on that's sort of your thing. That's what's great about what you did there you cut me off great choice. It's very funny because Pete went to Jay Leno was at a show and Pete just asked him to start saying because I end up doing this whole thing about isosceles the triangles and then Jay goes I thought I'll I can't do it again I'm so happy. I'm learning from you now that this was the same appearance because I've also seen the isosceles. Listen it was inconceivable to me that you were just doing. How long? No that's like a regular impression that I know that's you know I thought you were just all the time just you do a Leno thing you do bring different things to the table that was one long. Give me a thousand followers I'll do it for the rest of my life but we live in hell but it so Pete was at a show and he Jay Leno was there and he filmed him it's really strange.

13:29He's filming Jay Leno and he's going will you say I saw solis I saw solis which is part of the riff there that you for some reason you'll left out but but so Jay Jay's just sitting there like I thought all these I thought all these and Pete's going say I saw solis I saw solis and Jay's going I thought all the what is this I thought all these I thought the and so there has been contact but he still has no clue who I am which I think is best. Wait you have a movie yeah and it's called give it up about a comedian you have to go back to stand up and is struggling to connect in a world where you have to break through on the internet now is there any way in which that was autobiographical or is it or is it some more of a coincidence. The movie the Jay Leno impression is great no it yeah very autobiographical it's basically about the nightmare of the algorithm and I'm like again I don't want to keep saying we live in hell but you know this kind of constant quest for likes and for everything we were talking about before where you you know you just are constantly feeding this fucking algorithm to get likes and all these things and it's sort of commentary on that but we shot it all without really telling anyone we were shooting it so I'm going to

14:41be in comedy clubs like you know doing little like fake passing out and telling the audience I am going to pass out don't worry thankfully my crowd doesn't care for me so nobody was worried but yeah that that is a thing I've done what do you I mean other than saying that we live it like we live in hell fair enough but here we are yes in hell this is not hell I'm enjoying no this is great we're having a great time but like what what is so bad about having to get people to pay attention by doing the kinds of things that will break through online like what is the problem well I think it started great it was a great plan to be you know it was like hey let's entertain each other that was a great start but now this sort of constant endless fighting for likes and having post all the time if you're in entertainment or you know entertainments the grain of entertainment as well as I'll be honest the we have to keep saying crazy or shit or we have to keep laughing

15:46harder and at some point I keep waiting for it we're going to hear the the drain start to you know be dry and we're going to eventually find that we have we have nothing left I think that in a lot of ways the Trump podcasting thing is kind of a version of that where it was sort of like well what are we going to do we need to get more likes we need to get more you know scandal and all that and then so Trump at all these you know idiots podcasts and that really resulted in sort of a weird pass for for that to some extent yeah it's like there's well you feel I mean just you know we we put this show on YouTube right and you try to figure out like what is the title that will get people to click on it right and so you come up with more sensational titles to compete with the other sensational titles but at the same time you want to first of all you will ultimately train people to not believe what you're saying right there's so many channels where it's like you know it's over for Trump you know those are closing in the walls have been closing in for quite some time but then all but then part of it also is trying to figure out

16:51okay this is the world we want to make something people will like and will reach more people so how do you you have to figure out away you can throw your hands up you have to figure out a way to do something you believe in that you think is good but also that is in some way organ that is some way optimized to do well otherwise nobody's going to be like that is the that that is to be the challenge I agree and but also think of the thumbnails I mean God think of thumbnail thumbnail culture is just those I can do I was I imagine you'd be a thumbnail crusher yeah honestly it's it's kind of my special yeah see I for me to be like oh it's just like my soul body yeah the yeah yeah yeah do you met you met James before drag race I did yes tonight we met in Seattle a few years before either of us did drag race before and you like were you instantly hitting it off was it was it was it was it well you know it was one of those

17:52things where when two folks meet each other who do something as similar as what we do and especially if those are people who have sort of historically been you know as a drag queen as a young person when you're really like weird and feminine and whatever you there are only two narratives that you're total and waste of space or that you're extremely special and so when you meet another one it's complicated so there was immediately both recognition admiration and rivalry and we had to kind of make some choices around that very quickly like when the like when Brad Pitt means Antonio and Ben Banderos in interview with the vampire sure and it's like you know exactly that far too young sorry maybe maybe your hip remember actually you know I just realized as a 44 year old and the zero year old

18:56hip I am now on average 22 that's nice good about that now Trinity the talk was just on the show talking about how drag needs to be dirty and messy again and that this that while we're fighting while we're fighting while we're fighting to for drag queens to read at the library it's like this is supposed to be messy and dirty and for adults where where do you come down on this you know I think that to decide that drag comes from any one angle is to really underestimate the power of drag I think that yeah 100% I mean drag is very often for adults drag is should not be you know in terms of all these conversations about kids first of all very few of us want to be around anybody's kids like if I have the option to not be around kids on the sidewalk I'll choose that let alone at my own show I say don't even let them in the libraries thank you that's the problem nobody's talking yeah seriously drag re drag queen reading hour

19:57should really just be the queens you know so I think that like yes absolutely there is a very important element to keeping drag like dirty and letting it be all the things it can be but also like queer kids deserve to see drag queens queer kids deserve to see that there are happy successful happy successful adults that you know speak to their sensibilities you know I didn't have that growing up and look how I turned out if there was a there was a conservative who set a while back isn't it interesting that none of these drag queens seem to want to read to adults and it's like bitch adults can read not conservatives right yeah he's speaking to be fair anything about his peers yeah now Garrett you have a podcast with Jake Johnson called we're here to help correct are you ever anxious about giving advice because you'll seem like you have it too much together clearly you don't listen to the

21:04advice never portrays either one of us as hinged in anyway the problems are are always pretty small town we had one today where the woman called because her dentist in New York was giving $2000 off because it was a family friend for a root canal that she really needs and then when he left her a voicemail he was pissing and so he's peeing he just this finishing his pee but you can hear him pissing and then he flushes it and he's talking the whole time he's like but also don't worry about the and then he washes his hands and she was like what I'm worried about is when I get the gas that I'm going to David at the dentist and just be like I heard you piss and so you know we were trying to fix so it's kind of that advice so it's sort of it's sort of such a dumb world of problems that we're just a couple of drunk uncles at the bar so the stakes are low was he counting how long

22:07he washes hands no not long enough but for $2000 off I mean he could have pissed on his hands he could have pissed in my mouth from behind I mean I'm just gonna be quite honest and spin yeah it's I feel like the yeah I'm wondering where your advice would have been in that because to be like who cares if you tell him that he's the one who pissed you don't feel bad about telling him so well but it's important to them so that's where I'm going to come into. Wow so they say what the problem is and we'll pitch in that direction so so what we're going to do is we're going to record 90 minutes of like a show for her specifically to put in the air pods and we'll kind of be distracting her the whole time and she'll just say I got to listen to something because of the pain and then we'll just be talking the whole time we call that a tooth of fun like a tell us like a tooth of the sun that's a tooth of the sun. It's a tooth of the sun. It's a tooth of the sun. I feel tathole. Now Gareth you told our producer something interesting uh-oh which is you can immediately identify someone if they're British at a glance. I believe I have this talent. I believe I

23:14have this talent because my my parents are English immigrants sorry and I believe that I there's just many times where I'll walk by someone and I'll be like that's a Brit. But you don't know. That's what's going to that's what's so exciting about the things that you're saying right now to me. Yeah we're going to find out. Confirmation is what makes you feel good at it. Hearing it now that's potentially a flaw in all of this yeah but I know but I don't know for sure. What are your thoughts on the British as a member of the LGBTQ community? You can be honest. I mean the two are one in the same aren't they? Should they be allowed to read to children as British? Yeah. Should British people be allowed to read to children as an question that's not being asked. That isn't it. Yeah no um I I would say that I am very curious to hear your parameters for identifying British people because I feel like they're the same as Gatar very likely. So that the interesting. Now so what do I have? I have Brit Dar is that what I have? Yeah I think

24:18that's what I have. I have a great deal of Brit Dar. The mouth is a big player in it and the general face like the general like hmm they're like I work kind of a sure locky in face you know what I mean. I don't know what happened. I think whatever the whatever those strong kind of features whatever happened when the Saxons came in and the Anglo whatever happened in there. Yes that kind of became and I'm just going to say it there's some inbreeding along the way. It's a smaller village. Lots of mountains features. They soften on the crossing. I do think that's probably part of it. You know what I mean? So there's a kind of severeness to the faces that's interesting from all the kind of I think from all the from all the the beans. You weigh in it doesn't offend me. Yeah no I suppose that's not the homosexual part. Although we do have severe faces but sort of in a different direction. Yeah I know I guess it's just the general Britishness of one being light in one's loafers etc. The sort of pip pip cheerio of it all feels pretty gay. Yeah pip cheeeryos kind of the they do say that a lot of it. Yeah they're flying around with their goddamn umbrellas all

25:20over the town. It's like half the language. A lot of that. Yeah there's one. There's one. I'm allowed to say that. And you know what that sound means. Oh no. It's cyber game. We're calling brothers from another queen mother. We're going to show you a person. You will tell us gut reaction is this person British or not. Some of them are some of them aren't okay and we're going to start with an easy one. You want me to say you do you can put 100% British 100% right? Yeah we both just we're weighing in together. I mean you can disagree if you like real. That's our Jeffrey Cox conservative MP for Torridge and Tavis knock. Oh wow that is I mean it's quite obvious. Next stop for Torridge is just some of these fucking names doesn't feel real.

26:26I've been there. You've been to Torridge. No but I've been to England and I've never heard anyone say they're from Torridge. You've never been to Tavis knock. No no I didn't even get there. You're suggesting that you know who's British but you've never been to Torridge or Travis. Anyone who looks like he's swallowing six poached eggs whole is a brick. All right let's see who's up next. British or not. British or Maga could be a fun game. Yeah oh yeah that's definitely you know what not enough work done British. I I I kind it's God it could be Tennessee it could be British I'm gonna go. Well you were wrong on both. That felt very pushy. Not British. Correct. Oh what really? It's South Carolina Republican Congresswoman Sherry Biggs you were close with Tennessee. Yes you're close with Tennessee. Yeah it's the British blink.

27:28It's in the last having eyes like that in your last name Biggs is unfair. What a strange thing because obviously this is still photo but when you say she's not blinking I know what you mean. You know what I mean? It's got like that shark blink where it's just like a little bit of gray goes over it but the lids don't do anything. Yeah like that lizard thing. Next photo. It the necklaces it's going more Maga. Yeah wow. The necklace made a teeth feels very British but what do you think? I'm just gonna keep I'm gonna keep playing the odds if I keep saying British I think we're gonna get there eventually. I think the little medallion screams Brit I will say I will agree and say Brit. Michigan Democrat Debbie Dingell Debbie Dingell. That's right Debbie Dingell. Next up. Democrat Debbie Dingell. Democrat Debbie Dingell. I mean that could not sound more like a porn you'd see in the 80s. You were watching porn in the 80s called you think there's porn from the 80s called Democrat Debbie Dingell.

28:31That's very progressive for an 80s Democrat. It's become American. Normal. Women in politics. Next up. Come on. 100% British. I mean look look yeah he got a sunburn from his hair. That's me eventually. That's where I'm headed no doubt. Yeah no. Yeah for sure. Even for sure. Let's say I'm just saying, I think actually the eventually is doing a lot of work. Ha ha ha ha. That's easy. Yeah, no for it. Yeah. We get more wine. All right, that is labor MP for North Durham, Luke A. Kirst. Next up. First of all, this guy couldn't get his head in the James Bond circle. Ha ha ha ha. Not a good start for old bubble boy. It's close. It's close. It's close. It's like, I feel like we could be teetering on Southern here. Yeah, you know, I'm going that route. I am too. We're saying not. I'm saying not British.

29:31Correct. It's Illinois Democratic Congressman Mike Quigley. Look at him. That was OK. OK. Go more. Yeah. There we go. And you both have won the game. You can tell the brits. Wow. Thank you to Bendillo Creme and Garrett Reynolds. Go to jinksandela.com for tour dates. I'm excited. I'm going to go to that show. I'm coming. And your book, Jinksandela, How the Queens Made Christmas is out on October 20th. And you can see Garrett's on tour at garronsrannals.com for tickets and go to give it up film.com for info on Give It Up. We're right back. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love it or leave it is brought to you by Simply Safe. Today's savvy burglars aren't deterred by traditional home security systems. They know that even if they trigger your alarm, they still have time to grab what they want and go. Simply Safe is different. They stop breakings before they start. Unlike traditional security systems that only alert you after a break in is already underway, Simply Safe is designed to help stop intruders before they get inside. AI power cameras detect suspicious activity at the perimeter and alert live US-based agents. Simply Safe's agents assess the threat. Intervene, speak through the camera to scare off

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32:33Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. A lot to think about. That's the British thing. Hmm, can't wait to see what this no-homemo game is all about. LAUGHTER These are questions from our friends of the pod, Discord users. And as a reminder, go to Krigitaka.com, friends to join the community. All right, let's see what we have. First up, a friend of the pod named John has a question. Hey, everybody. My name's John, calling for Love It or Leave It. And my issue is I'm a very cheap guy. And I have a really hard time getting rid of things. I've spent money on. But now I have a bunch of clothes that I really need to get out of my life, because they're making my life worse. How do you advise someone who needs help getting rid of stuff they don't use anymore? Thank you, and have a great show. How do you think his clothes are making his life worse? Yeah. That is... What are they doing to him? What do we... What can we extrapolate from that?

33:34Taking up space? Oh, that really seems like he's overreacting. He's trying to declutter. He's trying to only keep things that spark joy. Are you a pack rat, Gareth? I guess a little bit. I still have clothes from my sketch comedy days, and I'm like, some day someone's going to ask me to reprise my role as a Scotsman. And it's sad. So I'm probably not the best person to advise. Here's what I would say. I would say, well, you have advice to... I mean, you have... Oh, no, I still... I saw a clothes in case I returned to a size 8 F-45. Yeah. Keep the hip out. LAUGHTER I... What I would say is why not... Like, lay them out, have a bunch of people come over and let them weigh in and vote, and let's say you got rid of 30 items, and then you almost scene your dog them where you wear them out one last time over the course of a month, and then you go donate them all. So you have one last run,

34:34because maybe something does spark joy when you're out at the bar or something. Right. So I was... I was talking about this idea for a party or like an event, and it would be called Everybody wins the lottery. OK, and here's what you do. Everybody fills out a lottery ballot. What are they called? Ticket. And with all your numbers, and you have to do this part of it, on your way to the party, the night of the drawing, you have to go to the 7-11 or wherever you're going to... Wherever you could buy a lot of ticket. You show the cashier, the ticket you would have bought, and you say, but I'm not buying it. And then you go to the party, and everybody watches the results, and you just pray your numbers don't come in. Mm. Because if you hit all your numbers, oh my God, I would have won the lottery. And so as you're watching the numbers, oh my God, I got one. Oh my God, I got a second. And then you missed the third, you're like, fuck yeah! I didn't win the lottery tonight. This is amazing. And you give yourself the feeling of winning the lottery by losing the lottery. And what's great about this plan is you always lose the lottery.

35:35So in this game, you always win. The reason I bring this up is because... LAUGHTER What if you do this? You take all your clothes out of your house. Everything on the lawn, get it all out of the lawn. And then one by one, you have to physically put a shirt on and say, I'm keeping it and walk it back into the house. So it's not about what do I get rid of. You'd reverse it. You have to physically decide what to save. I like that. What do you think about my lottery idea? A lot of idea, I'm not sure about it. What I like about your sort of... What if you did a rummage sale and any item that someone else is going to buy, you decide you're keeping that one? LAUGHTER Oh, I like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're really good. It choices that I'd like to buy. It's just $15, like, it's not for sale! LAUGHTER Hi, it's cool. You can only do it once though. Yeah, sure, yeah. You can only do it once. Yeah, you may just mind of keeping everything. Yeah. Let's see... Oh, let's see what our next... Who's next? Let's see what's next. Hello, love it or leave it. So I've recently come out as trans-hung binary

36:38and I was wondering, how do you kind of work with, I guess, gender expression and being more confident in your own body as well as expressing yourself? And, yeah. Well, it's a beautiful question. I don't feel comfortable in my own skin. You seem like the right person to answer that. I'll handle this. As a Brit. Yeah, as a Brit. So, yeah, I don't know how... I don't have the inability to answer that. I don't feel comfortable in this current form before we've even gone to gender. It's what I was going to say. How do you think about this? How do you identify? LAUGHTER I've never thought about it. Well, outside of these clothes, I am a cisgendered man. However, it's more complicated than that. I think that... What I found is that all of the years of me being like a freaky young kid feeling like the odd person out whatever,

37:39feeling like everyone was looking down at me, I found out so many years later that other people were looking at me being like, how did they have the confidence to be fully themselves? So, I really think that, like, at some point, if you are just embracing your own identity in that way, then that is the whole thing. It's just... It's embracing the identity walking through the world in that way and eventually seeing that just your sort of act of doing that is defiance and is incredibly strong. And I think that's where you find the confidence in it. I don't know what you're going to do because your identity is not as subversive, really. The maybe harder. Yeah, and then I look at someone like Garathon, I think. Look at how he struggles to be a man. Yeah. Look at the effort and energy it takes just to try to perform whatever meager version of manhood this is. And like, yeah, let's technically say, let's just stipulate.

38:39Garath, technically a man in the cloud. Legally a man. And like, we would say that is this is like, man, you're a man. I'm not saying you're not. Yeah, for sure. But my God, the effort and challenge that you clearly face just getting out of bed, putting on the pants. If I get out of bed, and there's pants. Right. Showers pants. Yeah, right. And just like kind of walking through life, trying to kind of perform whatever it is this is. Just Doritos joke after Doritos joke. That's all it is. You know, so I think it's hard for everyone. I think the skill I found out about is I can identify British people. I mean, it's been, you're getting robbed in an alley and you see this. You don't feel security. You're like, the robber has backup. Or you're like, the trash is moving. Anyway, I thought your advice was very sweet. Thank you so much. Thanks. That was beautiful. And I'm sorry I turned this all on. We all are. And I'm really sorry. Hey, I'm sorry. It's okay. Hey, I'm sorry. It's okay. Let's, I think we have one more message from the discord.

39:39Hey, fuckers. This is Donnie calling for love and or leave it with girth. Reynolds. Hey, Gary. I'm, hey, so I, I have ADHD and autism. I just got diagnosed with ADHD. Both my dogs have anxiety. One of them was diagnosed literally with what was called the autism for dogs, like the dog version of autism. So I guess my question is. What do I do? Well, the ADHD really kicked it at the end there didn't it? Yeah. And honestly, the autism. Yeah. So real wisdom. Yeah, it's bad. By the way, short clip coming through autism and ADHD. I agree with your doctors. I agree with your doctors. I think dogs are also like their owners. Yes. Often, often kind of reflect the owners. What was Donnie's question?

40:39Yeah, what are we? He wants to know what he should do. With his dog? Just what he should do. Don't call the show unless you write the question down. What? Am I missing something? He's questioning what should I do? Oh, it's just about whether or not the, what should he do about the dog? The technology that he has. The technology that he does, the dog has autism. So what should we do about a dog with autism? I don't think, I think put it down. Just wants to go. Give your dog favorite food. Show it, show him or her. Or they, the train. And then say goodbye. Wow. That is very good advice. Obviously, it's very good advice. Yeah. I would think there's a little projection going on. So I would maybe seek a second opinion. Some people just look at their dogs and they just think it has whatever they have. Like, my dog has a rectile dysfunction. Because it drinks too much whiskey. Okay, you know, yeah.

41:44Hey, Garrett. Yeah. You're okay, right? Yeah. You're doing okay. Really good. Very good. Okay. Put the let-off clip on. Run it back. People love the let-off clip. Get the let-off clip on. Let-off clip. Let's try to say on this low-ass couch following this. Okay. Okay. That's good. Yes. All right. What you got next? I think I'm going to get in trouble for what I said about the dog. You know, I'm obviously kidding. Which thing? Animal people are. But everyone's in while I'll see a video of someone having one of those parties where they have one last celebration of their dog. And then I do cry and hug my dog for a while. And then I propose to my now husband, if this happened, maybe we'll do a party like this for, for Pundit. And then Ari, my husband will say, I don't like when you cry like this. You fat it. So is the question, what do I do?

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44:48And I'm Claire Malone. We're back. This time with our friends at Crooked Media for a new show called Still Counting. Yeah, numbers are hard. Take ser easy. And frankly, numbers have only gotten harder. What does the data actually say? How do we reconcile that with the other things that we're seeing in American politics and around the world? And how do we use that data to understand or maybe even dare to predict the future of American politics? New episodes every Wednesday starting September 9th. Subscribe to Still Counting on YouTube.com slash at Still Counting Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Hurray! We all have our secret shames, our guilty pleasures. The thing we enjoy that makes some people go, you like that? Time to confess them all and a segment we're calling, I don't care, I love it. I don't care. I love it. Terrific stuff.

45:48Well, each gets 60 seconds on the clock to make an impassioned defense of something that others might not support. I will go first today. I would like to talk about something which is, and this would be a bit strange, I saw on Wikipedia this morning. I read something that I could not believe. And here's what it was. Matthew Morrison from Glee was stuck on the subway during the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City. Morrison and the rest of the subway carriage spent hours underground as the world above them collapsed. After he got off the subway, he walked into his girlfriend's apartment and saw her in bed with another man. Morrison told her you might want to turn on the TV and promptly walked out. And I thought, how is this on Wikipedia? How do we know this? Well, it turns out Matthew Morrison hosted a show which was a cabaret show about 9-11. The article goes on to describe Morrison's introduction to the show. Welcome to Rhythm in Revelations, a car wash for your soul.

46:50In this show, I'm not just here to perform, I'm here to spark something within you. I want to leave you with a sense of inquiry, curiosity, and wonder about your own life. Many concerts entertained by it invite you to take a closer look inside. Again, he did a jazicle whimsy spin while explaining 9-11. And I just want to say, I love it. Wow. Matt, from Glee, did a cabaret show about 9-11? I don't see how that's a hot take. I don't know how else you could feel about that. I'm just saying, I don't know how smart the AI is going to get, but it's never going to come over that. No. Hey, Dela, what's something that you don't care that you know? What's yours? Well, you know the... What's yours? What do I do? What do I do? Well, the heels of the hip have really been on the mind lately,

47:51because I did choose one over the other, and is gender affirming care. And I don't care how scuffed and old and ratty these pleasers get. I don't care how ridiculous it looks to have a single toe, panty-hoed toe just shoved into an open toe show. I will stand by this classic drag look forever, if it was good enough for Lady Bunny and Jackie B and Miss Piggy, then I think that this is a classically beautiful look, and I don't care who says else. I agree. I agree. I agree. You know what I found out the other day? That... That... That... That musical thing? That horse legs, right? Yes, the knee is the toe or something crazy. Yes, that really what a horse hoof is is the end of one finger, and that the reason they're so delicate is because they're just running on one finger and that everything else of the arm is up high, and so really what horse legs are are just four fucking fingers,

48:51and at the end of the... The hoof is just the nail on one finger, and all the other parts that are part of... are up there. They just withdrew and kind of evolved to be longer, and so a horse is running just on four fucking fingers. What? Yeah, and by the way, I think this is true, but it was from a video I saw on Instagram. Oh no, I went down a real long hole with this one. It is true. Wow, these are facts. Because you know how they look like their knees are all bent backwards? Yeah. Not true, that's the wrist or something. They're just on their fingers. Yeah. They're just running around a big... You can get the word out more on this. But that's why they're so delicate, because it's like, imagine how fucked up your fingers would be if you were just running on your fucking fingers all the time, Gary. Well, yeah, I wouldn't lay down to sleep. That's for sure. I'd see. Don't do the logic comb thing through what I just said. It's not going to end great. I want you to know something. I skipped all the way over that to realize that you and I had the exact same understanding of why horse is sleep standing up, which is Mr. Ed. Yep. Without question. I still believe they could talk.

49:53I think they could talk. That's how we know that finger thing, probably. Yeah, he'd tell that horse like, I hate this. These are fingers. I'm sorry, John. I can't believe you. Hey, he has the voice for Mr. Ed in there. You sure do. It's not a great skill. It's not been an applicable skill to my career until now. Yeah, pick it out British people. Did you know that Jay Leno sang Dorito or whatever it would be? No, I didn't know. It's going to be the newest. I just love the idea of you just on a stage somewhere in the Midwest. Being like, did somebody say Mr. Ed? No! I believe they did. Shut up, Frank. You know, it's also real quick, John, before we get into mine. I want to point out that John said that Dorito's clip pops up on his algorithm all the time. And yet, I don't believe he's a follower of mine. What? Are you not? I'll do it after. See, that's what the movie's about, really. Is that him checking what was that? John having a phantom phone. Computer, bring up algorithm. Garrett, take it away. Mine's not great considering the setup into this, but I'll be honest.

50:54I travel a lot. I stay in a lot of hotels. The lettuce at the grocery store we can't eat anymore. I took about two years off of bodies of water in the hotel. That includes the pool, the hot tub, and even the bathtub. And I'm back in. I'm doing the water in the hotel again. I am swimming in the pool. I'm going in the hot tub, and I will clean the bathtub, but I'll also take baths in it. Every time I explain this to anyone, it's met with great shame. And I'm sick of hiding. And I'm going to now say it. I'm in the pool, alone. I'm in the hot tub, hanging out for a while. And yes, I will be the guy who's taking a bath in a holiday. I'll just say something. I'm sick. I mean, I just, I'm sorry. When I think of a bathtub in a hotel that I would even consider using, it's a separate standalone bathtub in a fancy hotel. Yes. And even then, I'd almost certainly want to.

51:54Those, and they let me in those. I'm home aloneing. Right. But you're talking about the step-in shower bathtub that's foot after foot after a horrible foot. These are people that have what I would call other people's toes. Like a horse. Yeah, but like other people's, like toes, we all see other people's toes can be fucking anything. Yeah, toes can look like anything in the world. There's a lot of studies. Yes. I would love to follow that. There's a lot of studies that say that you could get quite sick from doing what I'm doing. Really? Yes. But RFK is in charge of health. So I'm leaning in. So I will, and I'm telling you, I will take a disinfect. I'll take a little Chlorox thing, and I will go around the tub. But most people don't seem to think that's enough. And I will be bathing in those tubs. And not just the fancy separate ones. I'm talking foot tubs. Foot tubs. Tubs, the foot tubs. Just people traveling.

52:54Just people traveling. They're just coming late. Sometimes I'll just put a towel in the shower and fill it, and I'll just slosh around like a fish at the end of the faith no more video. I don't care if no one gets it. Well, that's beautiful, and that's what the segment's all about. I feel sadder, but lighter. Thank you. And we'll be right back. Well, we've done it. One for the history books, but there's a whole lot of footnotes on this show, at least according to my producers. That's right, it's time for second thoughts. Garrett and Dela, I have a list of things that the producers believe I should have done differently or better. Oh. And I'm going to share the places where they believe I should have some regrets. If you have any regrets about this evening, this is a place to share them. First up, these jokes about suicide, boy, they don't work, do they? I told Garrett that going on and on is sort of your thing.

53:57I remember, yeah, but if it wasn't so, I think you're fine. I really, I think if it wasn't accurate, you could have regrets. I didn't give you. Let me get into it. Oh, no, go ahead. I didn't give Dela an opportunity to show off her thumbnail poses. Oh, thank you so much. Sorry, there's actually really only two drag queen poses. They go like this. Or. Really good. I compared Dela, I'm meeting another drag queen to the original 1994 interview with the vampire. But, dude, there's something about that, right? Drag queens move through the night. Oh, we're doubling now. Yeah, so this isn't a regret. 100%. I don't regret it. Drag queens, two drag queens, right? In a city without drag queens moving through the night, see each other from across the room. They recognize, wow, we have the same thing. We have the same, we're the, we're the, we're special and we're not part of this. And we're, we move among, we're in the night.

54:57I see where you're going with this, but I think the prime difference is we don't want more drag queens. We don't want to make anymore. Right, right, right, right, right, right, too is fine. Too is plenty. We're all set with two, three's a crowd. I really went after Gareth for never having been to Torage. Or Travis stock. No, you're absolutely right, though. I should have gone to Torage. Now, seeing the class of gentlemen that's from Torage, I'm a Torage 10. So I should head over there as soon as possible. Yeah, that's right. I'm absolutely. You will fucking clean up. The hottest men has never been to Torage. There'll be like, hey guys, we think kind of younger Brad Pitt from America is... Funky down the movie star. Funky Jim. Sorry to Debbie Dingo who caught some strays. And we're sorry to the people of the United Kingdom. I just want to sort of get that out there. A lot of our listeners. We have a lot of great listeners over there. And I think we're going to probably trim down some of the things I said about bone structure and inbreeding.

55:57But I'll leave this in to let them know that it was said. And I'm sorry even if they're not going to hear it. We definitely should cut that part out of this. The ones that are inbreeding don't have great hearing. You're fine. Right. That's such a good point. That's a good point. I know why they hit that guy so hard. Yeah. He also kind of has a Habsburg chin. So we should... No, I didn't look. I don't mean that. That's what Leno has. Here, there was some thought that maybe you should regret talking about your dogs erectile dysfunction. I appreciated your candor. Thank you so much. And to whoever back there has an issue with my dog having whiskey dick, you sound like the women that it takes home. You don't think the dogs used to hear that sort of bullshit? Well, I'm sorry. Jim Beams $2, where that dog goes to drink sometimes. What was the question? What do I do? And that's our show.

56:58Thank you so much to Ben Dela Kremlin, guys. Right now there are 55 days until the mid-jones. We'll be back Friday with former Congressman Katie Porter and the Great Lier Wilmore. Have a great night. Love and relief is a quick and media production. Our show is produced by Kendra James, Bill McGrath, Kelsey Gante, and me, John Love. Our production team includes Hallie Keeper, Sarah Lazarus, Roman Borcellino, Peter Miller, David Toll's Claudia Shang, Jay Banks, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGrope. And our staff is probably unionized with the writer's Guild of America East. I'm Nate Silver. I'm Galen Drook. And I'm Claire Malone. We're back. This time with our friends at Crooked Media for a new show called Still Counting. Yeah, numbers are hard. Take so easy. And frankly, numbers have only gotten harder. What does the data actually say? How do we reconcile that with the other things that we're seeing in American politics and around the world? And how do we use that data to understand or maybe even dare to predict the future of American politics? New episodes every Wednesday, starting September 9th.

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