The GLP-1 Explosion: Truth Behind the Hype

Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to today's podcast. I'm glad you guys are here.

Two of my favorite people on the planet are joining me today. Doctors Mark and Michelle

Sherwood are going to be dealing a little bit of hope. We're going to talk current events,

ketones, GLP ones, and whatever else comes to our mind. So if you guys need a little bit of

encouragement, this is the episode for you. This is the Heidi St. John podcast. I think you're

going to be encouraged. Thank you guys for listening today. I always start these episodes off by

saying a great big thank you to the sponsor of today's podcast, which of course is the Functional

Medical Institute. But I don't need to go very far to thank him today because the founders are

here and we're going to be answering your questions. Doctors Mark and Michelle Sherwood,

hey, welcome back. Hey, thank you. It is glad we're glad to be back.

I told you before we started, you guys are just so darn cute. You never age. I don't hardly ever

see you, Michelle, with your hair down. So cute. I want to jump into, let's start a little bit.

There's a lot of things I want to talk about and we've got several listener questions to get to.

But in the green room, I was just saying there are a lot of people stressed out right now, right? We

got Operation Epic Fury happening. We've got all kinds of unrest at home, I think in a lot of

ways we're watching the continue fallout inside the conservative movement, lots and lots of discord

and dyspepsia. I think you could say with regard to what's going on. And I would love to have the

you guys just speak into how people can find their peace, find the peace of God in the midst of all

this and maybe some things that we can do to sort of maintain mental health and not not fall

down. I'm super concerned. I got to say, yeah, falling down every conspiracy theory rabbit hole

known to man like it's starting to it's starting to make me cringe a little bit all of the the

conspiracy theories and the and and people who are just glued to their influencers 24 hours a day

to the point where their marriages are suffering, their relationship, their kids are suffering,

they're not getting outside, not getting exercise. What say you guys? Well, I think you you kind

of set the tone for what what our position has been. We've kind of had to think through this

because we're living the same world everybody else's you know. And so yeah, we are as quote unquote

hope dealers. What do we do? So honestly, we've had this discussion Heidi a lot. Okay, so first of all

what is our purpose? Our purpose is to

generate hope and love. Be the light of the world. That's it. I've done my purpose. So if that's my

purpose, everything that I do is got to run through the filter of that. And if it does it run through

and clear that filter, it's not serving that purpose. Then I had to go through what about the filter?

I don't want what is that that's like sticking on top of my head like a funnel man. It's like a mind

you know, it's being filled with stuff. If I don't fill it with stuff, what's it being filled with?

It's being filled with fear and more fear and anxiety and uncertainty. Now I'm not saying that the

influence is out that there's are doing that stuff or I'm not criticizing them. That's what they do

and they feel like to do that. But does it generate hope, faith and love? Or does it generate fear?

And I would admit if it generates fear, we need to stay cautious about how much time we spend

around that. Because if 80 or 90% of your day is focused on fear, what are you feeling your mind

with fear? What's the language of the enemy fear? And so I came to this conclusion. Our responsibility,

and this is going to send a little strange but hear us out, is to not go out here. My job is not

to fight evil. It's not my job. That's not a Christian's job. We have a heavenly Father that's

supposed to do that for us. So I'm not supposed to fight evil. I'm not supposed to be consumed with

evil. I'm not supposed to be consumed by the storm. I'm supposed to live out a different

perspective within the storm. Meaning I'm supposed to give hope to people. I'm supposed to

draw people. Now it doesn't sell tickets. It doesn't draw viewers because of what you said.

There's an addictive component to that. Yeah, there is. You have humor in pages.

Fear is like a sugar. It's like a dopamine. It is. So I want to endig people to hope.

So we do become hope dealers. And we may have only one 100 to the followers.

But just like Gideon's army, they go into battle and won. Sometimes you have to let those people

and those things go to find your real team to be around. And it's hard. But I see people

falling into what I consider a deep trap, a deep hole of really subtle deception. It's not

equal deception. It's subtle deception of being focused with conversation. Yeah.

Infiltration your mind hard eyes ears of stuff that really doesn't give anything

to you, but it takes everything out of you, including your health.

I want to especially if you can't do anything about it. I always feel like if you're spending your

days, and I'm seeing a lot of this from the questions that are coming into the show even,

that people are spending a lot of their days listening to people who are making an awful lot of

money generating fear. And there's no evidence to a lot of this stuff. So it's conspiracy theories

and all those kinds of things. And unfortunately, we all live through COVID. And it's given rise to

a lot of the conspiracy theories because we realized, oh, hey, some of them are true.

I think once that happened, and now we have a very healthy distrust. You know, I've talked about

this before of the medical community, a very healthy distrust of the government. And you put those

things together. And now we've got, you know, and the headlines and everything else. And I think,

when I hear you say, you know, we're not supposed to fight evil. I think what I'm hearing you say,

and you can correct me if I'm wrong, is that it's not that we're not supposed to do anything. It's

that we're not supposed to carry the weight of it. I mean, we do what we can do that God puts in

front of us. You spent half your life fighting evil, right? In what you were doing professionally.

So you're not saying we can't, we're not called to fight evil. If you see it and you have, it's

within your power to do something, then you should. What you're saying, what I hear you saying,

is that we're not supposed to be so hung up in it that we can't, that that becomes the all-encompassing

can't wait to get on the news, can't wait to hear the, you know, leave, you know, 400 comments

on different pages on social media. That's what I'm hearing you saying, is that right?

Correct. If you're so focused on the evil in front of you, you're actually feeding exactly what

it wants. You're feeding the fire of that fire, making it more of the attention thing. The devil

is not, he can't be everywhere. He's not hung up. Yeah, only God can be everywhere. That's right.

But the people can show up in willing people in the way they act. And, you know, again, we're all

capable of being an idiot or a blessing in one moment. You know, we all know, really watch,

watch what we're feeding. Yeah, that's it. It's to watch, watch what the intake is. That's right.

Yeah. That's right. So good. I've seen, you know, I've been watching kind of the questions as

are coming into the show. And a lot of people struggling with depression right now, a lot of

mental health issues, just anxiety people worrying about, you know, are we going to get attacked

now on our soil? And the reality is we don't know. But we do know that God says, I'll never leave

you. I'll never forsake you. Our filter that we filter everything through is the word of God. And

what God says about our world and our role in it. And we know that one of these days we're going

to, we're going to go to heaven. You know, one of these days we're going to be with the Lord. And I

don't know about you guys, but I'm looking forward to that.

You guys were talking with me before we started recording. I said, what, what are some of the things

that you want to hit on? And right out of the gate, Dr. Mark, you said GLP ones, huge topic of

conversation for my audience who doesn't know what those are and what they do. Can you guys start

out by just saying, this is a GLP. They go by these names. Here's what they do. Maybe I'll, I'll

describe maybe the mechanism of them. My wife can talk about some good sides and bad sides of

it. Proper use. Sounds good. Maybe improper use. So the stomach that we know is the size of a fist.

The heart is the size of two fists. So the stomach is half the size of the heart. The stomach is

not the size of a basket ball, folks. Nor is it the size of even a volleyball. But because it's

made of smooth muscle cells, it will swell up. Now, when we consume food, it goes right down to

this. It drops through a little, a soft, just spincter and into this thing called the stomach

eventually. And that's where the digestion kind of continues at full force and kind of kicks

into higher gear. As the food drops through that area and to towards the small intestine, upper

small intestine, there's there's this secretion of this peptide that's called glucagon like peptide

one or GLP one that goes northward to your brain. It says, Hey, man, we're full down here. There's

no more room at the end. Right. It takes about 20 minutes for that signal to fully get developed

and synthesize and get sent back north. The problem with this is is we so darn fast

that little fist size cavern was well up so fast. And we are taught to eat fast. We're taught to

eat stress. We're taught to eat the hurry. We do things different this country than other countries

and you've been in other countries. You know, it's different. And we work past that. And then we had

this cessation that says, I ate too much. I think I ate too much, you know. And we have the

buffet syndrome. I call it right. And so what happened at that point is we've ignored that

signal. Well, it's GLP ones that are what a brilliant concept. They actually are making that

signal go faster to the north. So you don't have to wait the 20 minutes and it keeps you from

overeating. So that's how they work. And they're really it's one of the problems most exciting if

you's properly potentially constructive breakthroughs we've had in out of this quote modern day

medicine phenomenon. So it makes you feel full faster. Bigo. Yes. Got it. So rather than the

rather than the 20 minutes that it would take for that signal to make it to your brain as soon as

you eat enough, your body's like, that's enough. And you're just not hungry. You know, artificially

in the north. So you just can't overeat. We talk about some good uses of bad uses of it. Well,

the names of them out there is ozemic, semi-glutide, a zep bound with goby. They're all GLP ones

or have a component of GLP one in them. And the thing about those GLP ones is they are great,

of course, for satiety and taking away that food noise. And sometimes it takes away the food noise

for the first time in someone's life because they're always thinking about, well, what do I eat next?

So an individual who finally gets an opportunity to use these GLPs can oftentimes feel a great

amount of relief. But we see so many things out there on social media. You hear it on the news or

you see commercials that you're going to paralyze your stomach or you're going to have problems

with your bowel or your... Biroid cancer. Yeah. Biroid cancer, you know, you're going to shut down

your pancreas or just different things that number one, you just got to stop and back away from

the fence. If they're used in an appropriate manner and they're actually monitored and watched by

clinicians, physicians, individuals who legitimately know what is going on with the patient

and the person, there shouldn't be any problems with these GLPs. The thing that do come about with

GLPs is boy, if you're not on top of your bowel habits, constipation may be a significant issue.

So before I even start somebody on one of those, I say, let's get your bowel habits in order

first to make sure that things are regular, that you even know what regularity means because sometimes

we're just so busy, we don't even know if we go on to the restroom or not. In a day's time,

then we started GLP and before we know it, a week has gone by and now we're locked up. So,

bowel habits are a very, very important thing, making sure that it's either magnesium or you get

your plenty of fluid on board or a little, add a little bit of vitamin C to that or you've got to

use amyrolax or sometimes even velcomagnesia is going to be a win as well. The other thing that

can happen is yes, it delays gastric emptying. Well, what does that mean? It delays the

time with which the stomach is removed, the food is removed from the stomach, so it stays around

longer. So, if you overeat or you eat too much and it's staying around longer, that

time in the stomach starts to reflux like acid. So, people feel nauseous, they feel sick,

they feel like things are coming back up the other way. Well, let's just eat smaller portions,

more frequently instead, just portion it out before you even sit down to a meal so you don't

have that issue or have that problem with with reflux and put on board the size of your stomach

instead of, you know, sitting down to a meal and just eating what you normally would eat,

just prepare yourself before you even start that I need to be eating less. So, you don't end up

with reflux. No, maybe a couple of things I want to add to that, just thank people that you know,

and I think you mentioned a very key thing. Work with clinicians that know about this

and I'll say it, know what you're doing. Number one, you do not live on calories. That is a false

negative science. You live on micronutrients, which are obtained from macronutrients, which are

obtained from foods. So, counting calories, eating less calories is really foolish,

it's contrary to logic, it's contrary to science, it's contrary to reality. So, I think that's key,

you know, make sure that you're high-neutrondicity foods and you can't lose. The second thing

a lot of people really need to know is when you start using those things, you can, you know,

find clinicians that can get it for them cash money, right? Or you can go down the insurance train.

If you go down the insurance train, you're going to get diagnosis code slapped on you

because the diagnosis codes are utilized for the insurance company to get a justification pay for it

and it's charged, exorbitant amounts, but that's, you don't see that in the front line.

But those diagnosis codes are stamped on you for the rest of your life. And we think we're being

monitored. I'm telling you folks, that's going to happen. What does that mean when you get out

there to 60-70? Does that mean you're putting a different class? Does that mean you're putting a

different graduating area of how much care you're going to get as you age? Does that mean

that you're going to be denied coverage? So people need to be aware of the diagnosis code

fallacy that is. We're using that stuff with some kind of a birthright concept, but it's actually quite

good. It's true. And you can use those, it seems to me. I mean, I've seen this. I would say

Kelly Osborne comes to mind. There's people that are, you know, public figures and quote-unquote

celebrities that get on to ozempic. And then a year later, they are walking skeleton.

Why does that happen? Are these drugs, are you're supposed to be on them?

You know, for it, because a lot of people will help them with their blood sugar for sure,

insulin resistance, those type of things. It was really meant, right? As I understand it,

the initial reason that people started using them was for diabetes or pre-diabetic. Is that

right? Or is that wrong? And then why do we see so many people walking around like human skeletons

on these drugs? Well, that is absolutely correct. It was originally used for type two diabetes.

It's not really prescribed for type one. However, we're starting to uncover that these GLPs have

more benefit for other systems like the cardiac system. Yeah, you can. Like the renal system,

like the central nervous system and the brain, it improves thinking. So there's a lot of systems

that are really helped with these GLPs as we get, you know, the toxic load really out. Now,

what happens is, you know, there's a lot of body image dysmorphia out there. You look at a mirror,

you never get to goal. So when you finally are losing weight, sometimes that can get completely

out of control. And we're not monitoring body composition. We're not looking at what we're losing

and oftentimes we're not just using yellow fat. We're also losing lean muscle tissue. So that's one

of the differences with what we do is we're actually looking at body composition. We're making sure

people are maintaining their lean muscle mass. And the only thing that they're losing is yellow fat.

That will keep individuals from actually getting into that kick kicked dick or

sarcopenic. They can be skeletal and still be obese believe it or not because they've

starved off all their lean mass. And there's no muscle left because they're not eating enough

to sustain life. Wow. It's scary. It really is scary. But I don't think people need to be afraid

of this GLP ones. And I know that that was, that was the first conversation I have with you guys

about it because a year a year ago or whatever when they said I was going to have surgery. It was a

doctor that I saw that said you need to be on trisepatide because my triglycerides, my blood sugars,

everything was out of whack. And it's been life changing for me, absolutely life changing. I feel

better than I've ever felt. And I remember coming to you guys and saying, what is this? What is trisepatide?

What does it do? And Michelle, you guys, you went over my blood work with me and said, you're

actually a really great candidate for this will be good for you. And it has been really good for you.

And so we're good for me. And I think the fear mongering behind it has kind of no where it's

coming from. But it's, it doesn't help when you see people like Kelly Osborne who looks like she's

on death's door talking about how I found ozampic and it changed my life. And I'm like, yeah,

I don't think it changed your life for the better. You know, I would say it changed your life,

but I don't know if it was good for you. But you guys are saying, hey, don't be afraid of these

things. They actually have, they serve a really good purpose. It's almost like, and they've been

around for a while, too, right? It's there. It isn't brand new. They have been around for a very,

very long time. It's just kind of taken a while for them to actually catch on. And now that we have

them and we have them in a compounded capacity or an ability to like take that dose and microdose

that are break it up. So let's say the first dose actually gives you that delayed gastric empty

and that significant constipation or those side effects that you don't want. You can actually

divide that dose and happen deliver it twice a week, divide that dose in thirds and deliver it

three times a week. So you can get the same benefit without the high serum concentrations of it

over the same amount of time. You just suffer less. So using it wisely and knowing somebody that

can actually walk you through those steps with some wisdom can be an absolutely life-changing,

game-changing thing for the long haul. And people don't have to stay on those forever.

We wean people off of them. Some people wean slower than others. And some people just choose to

use what's called a maintenance type of dose, which might be every two weeks. It might be every

three weeks once a month, every six weeks. It just is very personal and individual depending

upon what a person is dealing with. Yeah, so good. This is such good information because they're

literally everywhere now. What do you think about the social media posts now where, you know,

you could be on Instagram or whatever it is? You know, and there are people that are selling these

peptides, these GLP ones, they're for sale everywhere. How important is it that people know where

they're getting these, these, this medicine? Well, how on earth do you know that you're not getting

cocaine and above? Right. I mean, I'm being extremely dramatic with with that statement,

but you really you really don't know what it is that you're getting if it's coming from somebody's

back garage. It glee what you know that this kind of standard, if you will, is you want to have

kind of an independent third party testing generate what's called a certificate of analysis,

or COA and, you know, a recordable formula later will have that. And then at the same time,

I encourage people to, if you do decide to use those things, find somebody who knows how to

microdose, personalize it, individualize it, and work with them because they really can be

like in your life, an incredible game changer. They're really beneficial and kind of ignore,

you know, kind of start our first study, ignore the fear mongering out there. They're just trying to

get clicks, man. And it's a free country. You can do that, but look, life, life is not about extremes.

It's about being regulated and balanced and going through life and really being able to go with

the bad, that filter of wisdom as my wife said. Yeah, and getting good counsel. And if people

are interested in wondering if they might be a candidate for a GLP one, could they come and see

you? Can they make an appointment with you? Again, you guys can make that, that judgment?

Oh gosh. I did it today, just even before we came on live with the Green Room.

Really? A gentleman that I've been working with for, I don't know, probably a year or so now,

he's down about a hundred pounds, you know, and his dose is actually a little bit on a Wednesday,

a little bit on, I mean, a little bit on a Sunday, a little bit on a Wednesday and a little bit

more on Friday because Friday appears to be before the weekend and day that he senses the most

craving opportunity. So we need to kind of move in a little custom dose there, but we do it all the

time, and it is pretty, pretty standard for us. Well, I think it's awesome. And like I said,

it's been life changing for me, and also it's massively changed my blood work. Yeah. And so I

think, you know, people, I agree with you, the fear mongering needs to stop, maybe a little less

judgmental attitudes, a little less fear mongering and a little more like, hey, this is a,

this is a really great breakthrough. And a lot of wonderful people are benefiting from it. And I

appreciate you and your, your guidance on that because we're getting a lot of questions about it.

You mentioned ketones before we started. A lot of people that were familiar with the, with the

keto diet, that's the first time we ever heard the term ketones. And you're, they're putting them

in your water. Yeah. So, uh, so, yeah, so tell us a little bit about ketones. What are they,

what are they good for? So, um, ketones in general are a secondary fuel source for the body,

much like regular gas versus diesel gas, right? And the body in the absence of glucose can run on

ketones very efficiently. Um, the brain and the heart run on ketones very efficiently.

Some of the hallmarks of brain damage or stroke victims are concussed people. We have a hard time

utilizing glucose. The brain will shift to ketones. And you can give ketones to those people

and they can recover a whole lot faster. If you want to control your metabolism, you can go into a

quote unquote ketogenic diet, but use ketones to help you in more fastest states because it gives

you free energy. And it's, it's kind of a cool little process. So, you know, I've got, this is,

we didn't plan this is y'all know, we didn't plan this promise it, right? I know this is my

favorite. This is my favorite thing, though. I like the not plan. I've got my purple here, right?

Yeah. So, when you pour your water in here, you can charge your bottle, charge the water,

and then pour the water in a cup. You pour in a cup like that. You know, when I get, you know,

sort of a glass cup or one like this, it doesn't have the garbage in it. You open it up,

just like this. I'm going to do it live. And then you take, can you take the lid off that my sweet?

Okay. This is very exciting. It's a demonstration. Then you take these clean medical grade ketones,

and you just like, and again, you're supposed to use it like a tablespoon, but I just actually

push it in there like that right there. And then here you go. And then you just, you just swirl it

like this. And then you can also add to this a little bit of kingdom energy, a little pocket if

you want to get some biz to it. Swirl it. Don't shake it because the more you shake, the hydrogen

will pop out of there, right? Then you drink it. And you've got cellular energy. You've got brain

energy. You've got fat loss. You've got muscle retention. And you've got anti-aging right

through the glass. Oh, come on. All right. So ketones, GLP ones, we're learning a lot. I got

some questions. I'm going to throw at you. You ready? All right. New Mexico. Another anonymous

listener says, my kid is moody, tired, always asking for carbs. If pediatricians says it's normal,

how do I know if this is just growing up or if food and blood sugar are part of the problem?

Well, one of the most important things that you can do is to remove the excess sugars.

You know, sugar-mediate sugar. If you take a little bit, you want a little bit more. And before

you know it, you're on this vicious cookie cycle and you're out wanting more and more and more.

And with that sugar crash comes these moody disturbances. So balancing that out and starting to

remove it and put whole things in there that, you know, fruits and vegetables, just the things that,

you know, kiddos can eat. Learn to make protein, power balls or bars, if you will. And start

getting away from all of those super sugary foods. And you'll watch that move just start to balance

out. And kids do require a higher level of caloric intake and nutritional. They have a higher

nutrient need at certain ages and age brackets than us.

Dirty something. Dirty something. That's a little bit older individual.

Don't give me so much. You know, their systems really are craving good nutrients for growth,

brain growth, organ growth, skeletal growth. So it's not uncommon for kids to be asking for food

all the time. But you can really take that moodiness out by taking all the additives and

preservatives and garbage and excessive amounts of carbohydrates. Instant release dopamine

producing carbohydrates. It will really help stabilize those moods.

I would be concerned about the kids blood sugar. I really would with the pace of blood sugar

issue with kids right now. It's disgusting. It's terrible. It's unacceptable.

You know, I read a statistic just recently. I don't remember the database or how many they use,

but one in three kids have too much blood sugar. Come on, search for pediatricians that don't

embrace that normal. Another thing you can do is just have a body composition analysis machine

in your home and watch to see that the child and the parents, everybody should really understand

what their composition is. And if lean mass is growing great, but if we're growing in yellow fat

mass, then we're probably feeding the system the wrong nutrients. Yep.

Man, so good. This is a really interesting question. It didn't make it to your sheep.

And I'm going to read it because it came in really just a short time ago. It says,

Dr. Mark, is it possible? And Dr. Michelle, is it possible?

For a woman's testosterone to go up, if her husband is taking testosterone injections,

my husband is taking injections. He's in his late 50s and his levels were so low

that the doctor prescribed injectable testosterone. But now my levels of testosterone are sky high.

Well, I've never heard that. What do you guys say? I think I don't think that's really possible.

The only thing I can see is potential with that is when he's given a shot,

maybe there's some leaking out of the skin and she's touching it, or something that's a possibility.

But I doubt it. I have seen it crossed contaminated with creams before.

You have a funny story, worth telling on air, live,

and then come back to the real question. A couple in my office, this has been the true story.

This has been several years ago. They're both in their lab work and the lady's testosterone is like

off the charts, man. And I think it was like maybe 200, right? It was pretty high.

And the guy was taking testosterone cream that she was on, nothing.

And I'm like, thinking to myself, there's no way how did that happen? What's the cross work?

And so I ask him, have you, have you, did you help your husband put on the cream?

Have you, did you wash your hands? Did you use rubber gloves? I mean, I'm going down all

a little of things. And she goes on to tell me she's starting to get chin hairs more.

Okay, this is cool, right? So then I looked at the husband's true story. And I said,

have you been washing your hands after you apply the testosterone cream?

And he didn't answer immediately. And I said, sir, I'm asking you a serious question here.

Have you been washing and asking? And he goes, well, it helps her libido.

Oh, no. Right up answer.

Yeah, true story. And of course, that was a really awkward moment.

Anyway, and if you look at him and it was like that, not so cool time.

Yeah, I bet they're, I bet they had words after, I bet there are some words that night over dinner.

They had Roy's like with his other.

No, I don't think, I can't see it be transferred with injections. Can you?

I really don't see how that is possible.

Why might she have high testosterone? Maybe she just needs to get it some blood work done and

kind of figure out what's going on with her if that's the case. Yeah, it's probably like it's

probably what is high. I mean, the ranges we see there, and this is for a question answer

person to know, the ranges are at levels that are really kind of messed up. And so even if you're

outside, and chat, and PD's not going to have the answer for you.

There's still be low. So don't trust the ranges. Find somebody to help you look at those things

for in again, a better viewpoint. Man, so good. Anonymous and Oregon, my husband snores like a

chainsaw. And he says it's no big deal. When does snoring turn into something that we should take

seriously? Well, snoring can always be a problem because it doesn't mean that you're actually

getting good deep quality sleep if you're snoring. The airway can be compromised if you're snoring.

So things to look at is, you know, make sure your body composition is in range. Sometimes when you

get a little bit heavier, there's more weight around the neck. And that airway closes here comes

more snoring. Or if there's something going on in the sinuses, if the sinuses are not clear and

open, here can come that snoring. snoring does not always mean sleep apnea. Individuals are just

snoring. When does snoring become a problem? A significant problem is when it does go on to become

sleep apnea. That's when the heart and dilates and blood pressure goes up. And, you know, that can

also interrupt metabolism. And if that's a vicious cycle of somebody's got sleep apnea, now they're

not sleeping well. They're not waking up well rested so they're tired all day. They're going to

sleep tired. That sleep apnea also disrupts metabolism. So now they're, you know, they're eating to stay

awake and they can't run the calories that they're awake. Yes, that they're taking in because

their whole endocrine system is disrupted by this this apnea snoring on the other hand, you know,

that can affect the airway. It can affect the the pharynx. It can affect the voice. It can do, you

know, a lot of other things, but it's not as dangerous as sleep apnea that goes undiagnosed is.

Wow. Good to know. Brian in Tennessee says he's 45 and feels like he recovers slower now from

everything. Work out stress, bad sleep. What's the biggest mistake men make in their 40s when

they're trying to get back in shape? Well, Brian, I think a great question because you're in this

place that you're probably andro pausal. What means me with that is your testosterone level is

probably starting to decline. Manopause. Manopause. The endopause really is a time where men go

down kind of a slant. And so that's happening right now actually earlier and earlier because of

chemical additions to our environment, high stress, etc. We're seeing men at a younger age with

Lord testosterone. I bet. And what's kind of really coordinate well with the symptoms, Brian,

that you're sort of feeling here. The best place to start would be to go back to the big four,

you know, get your nutrition right, anti-inflammatory eating, work on sleep, do something mobile,

mobile everyday exercise, and then work on stress management. And then to get your labs tested

from a functional oriented practitioner that understands the hormone, peptides, etc.

And really get that squared away because the way you're feeling, Brian, you're a young dude.

And yes, I said that and mean it. You're not old. It's not normal to feel this way. And I believe

that you can have a lot of a higher quality life if you'll simply do those a couple things and

get somebody to help you walk through the process because you're really heading into the better

half of your life or the last best half of your life. We need to get you to live younger,

older, and to die as young as old as possible by increasing your health span.

Man, I love that encouragement too because I think, you know, people are afraid of getting older

and afraid of, you know, and we heard a lot of times I was going up and we 40 was over the hill.

Remember that? Like you're doing 40 and everyone's like, want, want, you know, too bad for you. Dude,

I had a baby when I was 41. This idea that, you know, somehow you're in your 40s and life is over,

you know, my husband's almost 60 now. I'm 56. I feel like we're feeling better than we've ever

felt before and this idea that just because you're now in your 40s or 50s or 60s or 70s for goodness

sake, it doesn't mean that your life has to get bad. I think you're absolutely right, Mark. I feel

like these years of your life should be really good and full of energy and vitality and vision and

things that you want to get done. Yeah, I mean, we tend to share with someone today the same kind of

concept of me. God says our life expectancy should be about 120. That's his word, not mine.

Obviously Moses believed it and lived to 120. A guy who hung out with him named Josh would

believe that he lived to 110 and well, I got to say I've never seen anybody that 120 years old that

I was like, glad you did that, aren't you? Yeah. I mean, when I see somebody who's like, you know,

what are you? 108? You look good. Yeah. I just, I have yet to see it. I don't know.

You know, again, why why is why can't? If you guys will do it, you guys will probably do it.

We're on the way. I think you're definitely and beyond or at least live as long as we want,

as healthy as we want to do what we want when we want and how we want and just go out with

a flash and change address. Mingo, I like that one. Man, I love that change address.

This is last question for today. We got about four minutes left. Anonymous in Virginia,

what's your honest take on cold plunges and saunas? Are they actually helpful or is this

the latest thing that everybody's talking about? Well, believe it or not, whether or not your body

responds to hot or cold is genetic. So you can, what? It is genetic. We have a performance

and longevity gene panel that we do and those that genetic panel actually has how your body

tolerates cold and how it tolerates heat. And some genetic systems are definitely geared to heal,

better, faster with heat. Other systems do better, faster with cold. Some systems do better,

faster with both. And of course, there are systems that are neutral. So knowing that can help you

know which one if you're going to buy a cold plunge or an infrared sauna and put it in your house,

sometimes it's good to know what your body, if your body will respond to that. Yeah,

but it is not diverse or junk. It is real. Yeah. And we do both. Honestly, we do.

I'm actually getting, I'm getting ready to do the genetic testing with you guys because I'm,

I'm really, I've, I've heard enough about it now. I've heard you guys talk about it enough.

I'm, I mean, I might do it just to be told that I don't have to get into a cold plunge.

I just want someone to say to me, it won't work for you, Heidi. Just, just don't do it.

Hey, in presence of all these millions of witnesses that it wasn't beneficial. We said it was

more beneficial for them people. How about that? You can't get out of it. That easy,

they're a man. You know, I've only done cold plungeing twice. And both times I was like, why?

This is like, this is like torture. I absolutely hate it. I hated it.

Well, we'll just let you stick to a cold towel. Okay. That's, that's fine. I mean,

I, your girl likes a hot shower and an infrared sauna. Okay. I don't want to get a cold plunge.

It's great. You won't be finding me collar bearer swimming or polar bear swimming anytime soon.

I just like to watch people do it on the internet so I can go. Oh, good for you. Yeah.

Good for you. You did it, though. Michelle, I saw a picture of you cold plungeing.

I did, I did it. Yeah. Yeah. I was amazing. I was like, look at her. Your teeth and even

chatter very hard. Yeah. I hit it well. Do you have the genetic? You did. I have the gene. I

can do hot or cold. I've got, I don't have an excuse not to be using healing tools to help

myself to preserve. What about you, Dr. Mark? Can you do both? I've got special abilities to

reduce inflammation by utilizing cold. I am really, I neutral with, with heat. Now, I don't like

that, but I can get it in a cold plunge at about a, you know, 40 degree temperature that

there and, and I've done it. I can sit there for five minutes and just go there, you know.

Oh, no, no, no. What you do is you jump into a dry sauna at about 170 and you bounce back and

forth and it's, it's, you know, you can do it. It just takes a little bit of mind over matter,

I suppose. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Run out here into the Arctic cold. This is a mindset for

you. It is. It's a, it's a, it's a, but you guys do that genetic testing. And in the last minute,

we've got left here. Can you tell us a little bit? If someone's interested in finding out,

you know, why they would want to do genetic testing in the first place? Because I think a lot of

people are afraid that genetic testing means they're going to find out they have this terrible

genetic propensity towards Alzheimer's and they're going to die early from this or from that

of the other thing. Why would someone get genetic testing? So our perspective is completely different.

I look at genetics like this. It's God's hard wiring.

Genes are not bad. They're awesome. I want to know how my genes are interacting with the

environment that I'm in. They're empowering. When I know this information, it gives me the clues

to perform at a level that gives me confidence to have disease resilience and disease avoidance

in a preventing manner. You mentioned Alzheimer's. That genetic combination, it depends on how you

look at it. How about looking at it like, oh, cool. That's awesome. Now I know what to do to avoid it.

That's right. Yeah. It's a different perspective. And there's not one single person listening.

And I'm saying that with a thousand percent confident right now with certainty, there's not one

single person listening that cannot benefit from it when it's interpreted by people that know how

to interpret it. Let me put that context there. Yeah. Really good. And if people are interested in

getting genetic testing, can they reach out to you guys? Yes. 100%. HomeSchoolHealth.com.

HomeSchoolHealth.com. Doctors Mark and Michelle share with your national treasures and you know

I love you to pieces. Thank you guys so much for coming on the show today and dealing some hope.

I really appreciate it. And I might, you know, I'm not going to get in a cold plunge, but I'll think

about you guys when next time I take a little hot sauna. That's funny. I'm going to get

that. I'm going to get some genetic testing with you guys. And then you're going to say,

look at you. How do you never have to take a cold shower ever in your life?

What are you going to do if it says it's a benefit? That's the question.

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to pray about it.

But you know, a lot of times you already know, you already know those things. So it just might be

that your gene say no. That's right. That's right. I can already hear him. No. That's right.

I can hear him. I love you guys. Thanks for coming on the show today. I appreciate it.

I don't love you too. Thank you for having us. We blessed.

All right, you guys. We didn't have time to get to all of your questions today. But we're

going to have Dr. Smurker Michelle Sherwood on again. We do this quite a bit. And if you would

like them to answer your question, the way to do that is to go to HeidiSaintJohn.com for

slash fan mail Friday. That's HeidiSaintJohn.com for slash fan mail Friday. Listen, I love the work

that Dr. Smurker Michelle are doing at the Functional Medical Institute. I can't recommend them to

highly enough. And so I hope you reach out to them. You can find out more about them and their

ministry of hope dealing by going to homeschoolhow.com. Thanks for listening to

everybody stay well and I'll see you back here again at the intersection of faith and culture.