The Epstein Interview

0:00I also want to make it clear, it doesn't seem like Epstein ever feels like he is a subordinate to anybody. I think that he definitely will take the acolyte role, right, in the sense that he's willing to be mentored by other people. But when you get Jeffrey Epstein at a room, Jeffrey Epstein fully, fully believes, okay, he is the smartest guy in the room and that he is going to make the most impact. And why do I say that, Ryder? Did you happen to watch the two hours of the 15 to 18 hour ban an interview that's out there? Yes, I did. And I honestly liked it. I enjoyed it. I thought that it would. Well, again, banan is being hired to try to kind of reform the public perception of

1:05Epstein in that. But one of the most important things that's supposed to be like a 14 hour long interview. It is. It's 15 to 18 hours. And the big question is, why is only that two hours out? Like you would assume the Justice Department has all 18 hours since banan is riddled through the files, right? And he's had to work with them. The Justice Department. He's actually been imprisoned by them. And we only have that two hours. It's very bizarre. I'm waiting on the other, you know, again, 14 to 17 hours. But the point making, Jeffrey Epstein is smarter than Steve Bannon. Like, he was actively dumbing himself down to try and explain things to Steve Bannon. And Steve Bannon just was not getting it. But what I found was most people, what be it in business, in normal life, or in the world leaders, don't really understand money. It is something they think about. They have a sense of what it is. They certainly want more of it. But they also make statements like we want more money, but we don't want more debt, which

2:09just shows a misunderstanding of what money at its core really is. Bannon's playing a part there because they've already had conversations of where they wanted to go, but then Bannon interjects every once in a while. So like my point being, like, when Bannon does try to interject, especially on finances, right? He's talking to him about subprime loans and the 2008 housing market and the crashes. And he's, you know, talking about also in the regards to Jeffrey Epstein being in jail and what phone call he's making, right? He had what was just interesting because Jeffrey Epstein is talking about how the freaking financial system works. Like why would you not ask him better questions, the better explain how the financial system works that the bank really doesn't have their money at any one time. There's one of the things during the question, they were runs on the bank. The reason the banks don't keep much money in the actual bank is they assume that not everyone's going to want their money on the same day.

3:11So it's not really the fear of inflation. The fear is a run on the bank. Everybody wants to take out something that doesn't really exist. Inflation is tied to interest rates. It's a more complicated example. As it's not about an app, bro, it was about taking it back to the whole freaking, it works. You really upset when you were in jail again, because Bannon's being paid by him. It's for Jeffrey Epstein, okay? Guys, there is no doubt like that's a PR move, like that's why he reached out to Bannon to do it for like the illusion that it was a hardcore interview. No, it's all pre-planned. But like every once in a while, he throws something in there and this is where the ego gets in on Epstein that really came out to me is when Bannon is talking about finances and Epstein goes, nobody really knows, right? He starts talking about nobody knows when the crash is coming. And then Bannon lists off like a dozen different people in the economic field.

4:13And he goes, you know, who would you say is smarter than you'd be able to predict it? And Epstein looks at him and he goes, I'm sure there is somebody, but I can't think of them. I can't think of them right now. No, you don't think anybody's smarter than you, bro, at all. Like you can tell. And remember, Steve is also playing at your smart guy. How many times does Steve Bannon call him a smart guy in that interview? Look, he did later on, but in the beginning, he says, how does a dim-witted person like you get involved with the rock of it? It's like he's hitting them, he's front loading them with like, derogatory things. And then later on, I was interview progressive. He's like, oh, you're super smart, Jeffrey. Just because he said that no one knows how the financial system works. But so if I said to you, does your doctor understand your body system, you'd say, well, I hope so because I want him to keep me healthy. But you could have a kidney infection, you could have a heart attack, you could have a broken

5:16knee. There's lots of pieces of this system. And in fact, when you ask the question, very few doctors understand your entire body. There's a specialist fee in knee, there's a specialist fee of polynoidal cyst, there's a specialist fee ahead. And now we have specialists in different areas. So I'm going to get to your first question about Santa Fe Institute, the world economy and your body are both comprised of little systems interacting with each other and making one big. It's a very strange interview, I've seen that I liked it and then I thought that it was good to be advantageous, but it's a very, look, we need things like that. It's like we need the Galein Maxwell testimony, not because they're necessarily telling the truth, but it gives an insight to their mindset and it gives other, like for instance, you know, you started that interview talking about the relationship with David Rockefeller, right? Actually, in that same New York timespiece that I discussed with you earlier with Douglas

6:20Lee since Stanley Pobbinger, the tail end of it is that meeting with David Rockefeller and being brought into the trilateral commission. Now we know he was part of the trilateral commission, nobody at that point knew he had a personal relationship with David Rockefeller until, you know, you saw that Epstein interview or read this article, a lot of people don't know this about Rockefeller, he kind of became the face of the Rockefellers and globalism because they sent him off to naval intelligence. Rockefeller was like a meticulous guy. In fact, Rockefeller had his own Dewey decimal card system for everybody that he met. Go look this up, it's really interesting. So in the Rockefeller archives in New York, they're slowly releasing some of these, but not all of them. In fact, you can see where he meets Henry Kissinger for the first time and Kissinger gets on board and it's 1954 at the initial Bilderberg meeting.

7:24And of course, Kissinger will become, you know, the head of Rockefeller associates and be extremely influential up until his death, less than what like half a decade ago. I mean, this guy is still meeting Trump while he's in office. So Rockefeller really, really smart guy and I'm super interested to know and see one day what the Jeffrey Epstein index card has because it has to exist because Rockefeller is that dude, everybody. Go look him up and go look up his little card system for people. Yeah, that was a really interesting aspect of the entire interview. The whole thing was just so weird, bro, like he went so many different directions, he was talking about how we want to be able to measure the unexplainable things with science and like that he's always interested in like basically a cult and the esoteric things. They were trying to put explain the unexplainable, many things approached the wall or in his

8:29in calculus, approached the limit but never really reached it. So he said, it's okay, you don't have to reach it. We can do lots of the mathematics as if it was so close it was almost there and we could do lots of mathematics almost being at the limit. This is really important for today because most of the science up until today was things that started to approach the limit. Very strange interview. I wish it would release the rest of it. We need bills other hours. I would love to hear what else and what other things they got into in the rest of their conversation. Yeah, no, I want. I've been, I was an advocate before they came out. In fact, we know a couple of things that he says in that interview or interviews that have not been public. For instance, Steve Bannon, several years ago, man, it could be five, six years ago now.

9:29It was after Jeffrey Epstein's death, but he put out a trailer called the Monsters. And in that trailer, he says to Jeffrey Epstein, you have an island, Jeffrey Epstein corrects him and says a couple islands. So a lot of people know about little St. James, apparently he has another island. And then Steve Bannon replies, islands of Dr. Morrell and Epstein replies, that's correct. Now for those that don't know what that is a reference to, the island of Dr. Morrell is a novel turned into a movie where they are doing human animal genetic testing and experimentation. And you know, essentially, you know, from these files that he is obsessed with transhumanism, that he is talking to people like Richard Branson and others about cloning, cloning himself in particular, using these type of clones for spare parts.

10:34And he's in contact, I believe it was with Ben Gertzel. He's who is the one who's talking to him about a list of those in the transhumanist community in which he should keep his eye on, including people like Aubrey DeGrey, of course, Ray Kurzwell, and somebody that I talk about sometimes ad nauseam when I talk about this subject, Martin Rothblatt, formerly Martin Rothblatt. So yeah, I need to see the rest of those videos. You know, you just talked about the fact that Epstein's talking about outdated math and sounding like David Ike when he's talking about the nature of reality, right? So I was also taken, like forget about just the Federal Reserve stuff and the Fiat money stuff and sounding like Ron Paul, I'll know later out of the thing when he's talking about the nature of reality. He sounds about his David Ike, his David Ike gets. That's what I was really shocked about and I was like, are these people secretly really

11:37interested into this stuff that kind of seems like it? Seems like these super rich people also are really into the occult, really into what is a transmutation or a transfiguration and things like that and they're probably funding right? You know, Epstein had his claws in a lot of the areas of not just transhumanism, but AI itself, right? Like you see the relationships with Chomsky at MIT, but that was not the only relationship at MIT. A lot of that was narrative management, but at the same time Epstein's in these emails, not just talking about artificial intelligence, but AGI's and essentially for those that don't know that is that that's becoming the vernacular now artificial general intelligence and he's talking about a ad nauseam 2012-2013.