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pplpod — The Deadly Lies of the Popish Plot. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
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the execution of at least 22 innocent men. Okay, let's unpack this because we are looking at Forge Letters, a king who saw through the lies from day one, and a society that willingly dismantled its own justice system to appease its deepest fears. It serves as a remarkable case study in societal psychology. You know, the plot itself was entirely fabricated, like you said, but the panic and the political weaponization of that panic were very real. Our objective for this deep dive is to move beyond the surface narrative of the events. We need to dissect the systemic failures and understand the precise conditions that allow a completely unsubstantiated rumor to hijack the legislative and judicial apparatus of an entire nation. Absolutely. Because, as you know, by the late 1670s, the English public carried more than a century of generational trauma regarding religious and political upheaval. There wasn't a spontaneous panic at all. Right. Exactly. We don't need to rehash the entire tutor reformation or the gunpowder plot of 1605, but we do need to look at how that history created an institutionalized confirmation bias.
Which was massive. It really was. The public was pre-programmed to view Catholicism not merely as a different theology, but as an apparatus of foreign state terror and absolutism. What's fascinating here is how those past events functioned as a permanent distorting lens, through which the English public viewed contemporary politics. You think about the whiplash of the reformation. Oh, the whiplash was extreme. It was. Starting in 1533, you have Henry VIII breaking from Rome. Then Edward VI pushes strict Protestantism. Only for Mary I to return to Catholicism and burn what, 300 Protestants at the stake? Exactly. And then Elizabeth I breaks away again. It's society suffering from chronic ideological whiplash. That in the 1605 gunpowder plot, where Catholic conspirators like Guy Fox literally tried to blow up Parliament. Which served as the ultimate confirmation bias for the English Protestant majority. It convinced them that Catholics were murderous conspirators, at the trauma of the English Civil War, the devastation of the Great Plague, and the Great Fire of London.
Which contemporary rumors falsely blamed on Catholic arsonists, by the way. Right. All that created a hypervigilant society. And then you have the specific geopolitical anxieties of the 1670s. King Charles II was in a highly precarious position. Yeah, a Catholic wife, right? Did. And he had allied with Catholic France against the Protestant Netherlands. His brother and heir James, the Duke of York, was openly Catholic. So the tension was already systemic. Parliament was intensely suspicious of the Crown's intentions, especially after Charles II issued the Royal Declaration of Indulgence in 1672. Which suspended penal laws against Catholics? Yeah, and Protestant dissenters too. But for the public, this wasn't viewed as a step toward modern religious tolerance. It was seen as an illegal overreach of royal prerogative. It terrified a populace that had just fought a civil war over monarchical overreach. The fear was that Charles, or eventually his brother James, would use a Catholic alliance to impose an absolute monarchy, dismantling Parliament entirely.
That is the tender box. The society was primed. The political factions were deeply distrustful of one another, and the institutions were fragile. All it required was a spark. And that spark arrived via two extremely unlikely villains, Titus Oats and Israel Tunt. Two men who absolutely shouldn't have been trusted with anything. Definitely not. Tunt was a clergyman whose contemporaries heavily documented his obsessive, nearly insane fixations on supposed Catholic subversion. And Oats was even worse. Right. Oats was a man who had repeatedly been dismissed from various naval and clerical posts for misconduct before briefly spending time in Jesuit seminaries on the continent. From which he was also expelled. Of course he was. But together they manufactured the sprawling, convoluted manuscript. It alleged a vast conspiracy approved by the Pope to assassinate King Charles II. And replace him with his Catholic brother James and violently suppress Protestantism in England. They named nearly 100 Jesuits and prominent English Catholics as the architects of this
incoming slaughter. And the absurd setup of how they introduced this document is just wild. Oats literally slipped a copy of this massive manuscript into the wood paneling of a gallery in a physician's house where Tunt was residing. Just so Tunt could magically discover it the following day. Exactly. He finds it and passes it to an acquaintance. That acquaintance happened to be a chemist named Christopher Kirkby, who had previously assisted King Charles with scientific experiments. So Kirkby actually has access to the king. He does. On August 13th, 1678, Kirkby approaches the king while Charles is just taking a walk in St. James's park. He warns him of assassins waiting to shoot him and claims the queen's own physician planned to poison him if the bullets failed. But the king's reaction is what's really telling here. Charles II was notoriously cynical and he was immediately dismissive of the claims. He didn't buy it for a second. Not at all. During a later interrogation, Oats claimed to have met Don Juan of Austria in Brussels. The king, who actually knew Don Juan personally, immediately realized Oats had no idea what
the man looked like. He caught him in a blatant lie. He knew Oats was a liar. But Charles allowed his chief minister, Lord Damby, to review the allegations. Damby saw a political opportunity to use the rumors to bolster the king's standing by presenting the crown as under threat. Including more loyalty and funding from Parliament. Precisely. But Charles wanted the matter kept secret. He figured that publicizing an assassination plot might ironically give someone the idea to actually attempt it. Here's where it gets really interesting, because the investigation before the pre-Council in late September completely spirals out of control. Despite the king's skepticism, it takes on a life of its own. The rumors had reached his brother, the Duke of York. And because the plot directly implicated James's associates, James essentially forced the king's hand. He demanded a formal, privy council investigation to clear his name, right? He did. James believed that a swift inquiry would expose Oats as a fraud and end the matter. He severely miscalculated the council's susceptibility to confirmation bias.
Which brings us to Oats' performance before the privy council. He expands his initial claims into 43 massive allegations, naming 541 Jesuits. He claims there were secret meetings at the White Horse Tavern to coordinate an invasion of Irish and French forces. But the turning point and the critical failure of the council revolves around a packet of forged letters. The council presented Oats with 5 letters, supposedly intercepted from prominent priests, detailing the assassination plot. The council actually suspected these letters might be forged. Yet when Oats was asked to examine them, he instantly identified the supposed authors of each letter after barely glancing at the handwriting. The cognitive dissonance of the highest nobles in the kingdom is just staggering. They took his instantaneous recognition of the handwriting as definitive proof of his intimate knowledge of the conspiracy. It is a tragic irony and a textbook failure of critical thinking. It apparently never occurred to the privy council that Oats' ability to instantly recognize
the handwriting made it vastly more likely that he was the one who would forge the letters in the first place. They were amazed by his memory instead of suspicious of his forgery. Because the letters confirmed their pre-existing fears about a Catholic uprising, the council suspended their logical faculties. They validated Oats inadvertently granting him state sanctioned credibility. And then the physical catalyst occurs, the event that poured gasoline on the fire. The magistrate who had first taken Oats' sworn deposition, Sir Edmund Berry Godfrey, goes missing. And in mid-October, his body is discovered in a ditch on Primrose Hill. He had been strangled, his neck broken, and he was run through with his own sword. The murder remains unsolved to this day, but the public immediately blamed Catholics. That period became known as Godfrey's Autumn. For a public already on edge, the unsolved murder of a prominent Protestant magistrate was the irrefutable physical proof they needed. It transformed Oats' abstract manuscript into a bloody reality.
That panic was suddenly tangible. And to make matters worse, investigators raiding the homes of the accused found actual, factual correspondence. A man named Edward Coleman, a secretary connected to the Duke of York, was caught with letters he had written to a French Jesuit. So there actually was a real conspiracy going on? Yes. Coleman's letters are the crucial kernel of truth that every effective disinformation campaign requires. Coleman wasn't plotting an assassination, but he was attempting to secure French funding to bribe members of parliament. He was eventually trying to dissolve the English legislature in favor of a more pro-French absolutist model. Exactly. Which is entirely separate from Oats' fictitious murder plot, but it was nonetheless high treason. Coleman was executed, and his real conspiracy provided the necessary foundation to make Oats' fabricated conspiracy appear credible. At this point, the mechanics of the hysteria shift from the government chambers to the streets. The city of London effectively militarized itself overnight. Roger North described it by saying, the very cabinet of hell has been open.
The sheer panic was overwhelming, noble women carried firearms. The House of Commons was repeatedly searched for hidden bombs. There was even a moment where a Frenchman was caught hoarding gunpowder, causing widespread panic until he realized he was just the king's firework maker. It's absurd, but it highlights the tragic comedy of the situation. The print media was a massive driver of this. The printing press was basically the social media of the 1670s. They had so a flood of cheap, easily digestible pamphlets and broadsides hit the streets. These publications serialize Oats' allegations, complete with lurid, woodcut illustrations of Jesuits plotting in the shadows. Creating an inescapable feedback loop of terror. Which brings us to the accusation of the five Catholic lords. With the press and the public behind him, Oats aimed at the very top of the social hierarchy. The specifics of these accusations highlight the complete abandonment of logic. Two of the accused lords, Aaron Dillon Stafford, hadn't spoken to each other in 25 years because
of a bitter feud. Yet Oats accused them of conspiring together. Yes. And another, Lord Belicees, had gouted so severe he could barely stand, let alone lead a violent military uprising. But the absurdity didn't matter. The political utility of the plot had overtaken any search for the truth. As with in Parliament realized, they could weaponize this mass hysteria to fundamentally alter the power structure of the country. Opposing factions used the public terror generated by the Popus plot to introduce legislation aimed at explicitly excluding the Catholic Duke of York from the line of succession. While the politicians were playing chess with the succession, the justice system was actively collapsing under the weight of public fear. We see this with the execution of William Staley. A young Catholic banker who allegedly made a drunken threat against the king in a tavern. In a functioning legal system, he might have been fined or jailed. During the Popus plot, he was tried, convicted of high treason, and executed within 10 days. To understand how 22 innocent men were legally murdered, we have to look at the procedural
mechanics of a 17th century treason trial. Defenders were not permitted defense counsel. They weren't even allowed to see the evidence against them prior to the trial. They could not call witnesses under oath to contradict the Crown's informers. The accused were fighting blindfolded. And the Crown actively incentivized informers with pardons and rewards, men were tortured into giving false confessions. Like Miles Prance, who was thrown into a freezing dungeon and tortured until he broke. To save himself, he falsely implicated three entirely innocent working men, Barry, Green and Hill, who were then executed for Godfrey's murder. The environment was so toxic that Oats continuously updated his lies to explain away any inconsistencies. When people questioned why none of the supposedly hired assassins had managed to shoot the king during his daily walks, Oats claimed the assassins were planning to use special silver bullets so that the king's wounds wouldn't heal. It's a desperate rationalization, but the public eagerly swallowed it. But hysteria, by its very nature, is unsustainable.
The fever eventually breaks. And it wasn't from a sudden realization of the evidence, but a shift in public sentiment regarding the victims. As these innocent men went to their deaths, protesting their innocence, public opinion began to shift. In the 17th century, the words of a dying man were considered legally and spiritually weighty. They continually delivered incredibly dignified final speeches, and you start to see grassroots skepticism empowering the judiciary to reclaim its authority. Judges like Chief Justice William Scroggs, who had previously presided over wrongful convictions, began demanding actual corroborating evidence. And when the informers couldn't produce it, judges ordered juries to acquit. King Charles threw the full weight of the crown behind the judges. The moment the institutional support vanished, Titus Oats' entire empire collapsed. King Charles finally kicked Oats out of his cushy state departments in Whitehall. And when James II took the throne in 1685, the ultimate reckoning occurred. James had Oats tried for perjury, right? He did.
Oats was stripped of his clerical status, imprisoned for life, and sentenced to be whipped violently through the streets of London and pilloried annually. Even though his credibility was permanently eradicated, the long shadow of the damage he inflicted was devastating. At least 22 innocent men died. The Society of Jesus was functionally decimated in England. And ordinary Catholics were subjected to strict anti-catholic legislation that wasn't fully removed until 1829. So what does this all mean? We aren't examining this narrative just to recount dusty history. This is highly relevant to your world today. It's a masterclass in how disinformation operates. It truly is. It shows how bad actors can exploit societal anxieties, how confirmation bias blinds even smart people like the privy council, and how quickly the presumption of innocence vanishes in a panic. This raises an important question regarding how we consume information today. Knowledge is only valuable when applied with critical thinking. The Popish plot should serve as a cautionary tale against letting fear dictate truth.
I want to leave you with one final, provocative thought to explore on your own. If you look at the broader categorization of this event in our source material, it's listed under conspiracy theories. It shares DNA with modern examples like crisis actors or shadow governments. The crucial concept connecting them all is falsifiability. Inologically found investigation, a theory must be falsifiable, meaning there must be a way to prove it wrong. In the Popish plot, the complete lack of physical evidence was twisted into proof of just how well-hidden the conspiracy was. The complete lack of evidence miraculously became the strongest evidence of all. I challenge you to look at the media you consume today. If a theory is designed so that even the total absence of evidence supposedly proves it to be true, are we dealing with facts? Or are we just living in someone else's Popish plot? A vital question for anyone navigating the information age. Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. Stay curious, stay critical, and we will catch you next time. You're listening to a podcast right now, driving, working out, walking the dog. If you're in a podcast, chances are you have something to say too.
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