The courage to stand

0:00Welcome to today's broadcast of the last Top of the Dimer public. We're glad you joined us. I'm the host Reverend Bill Cook, founder and CEO of America's Black Road Regiment. My wife Judy is here with me. And we're excited to be part of the Morning in America out loud broadcast series on America out loud and hope you will join us weekly. As you say every week, if you wonder what the black road Regiment is, and it's a historic term that the British use to describe the pastors who fought in the Revolutionary War, the British regarded as the leaders of the rebellion. Today, the black road regimen is raising up craziest pastors to secure liberty to our own generation and the next. They are the last hope of this dying republic. And so thank you folks for joining us. Thank you pastor Ernie for joining us. We're so glad you're here. Thank you for inviting me. Yes, it's such an honor to have you. I'm just going to give you a brief background for those who are listing pastor Ernie Sanders served

1:02in the US Army. He was very active in the pro-life movements in the very beginning when they made their mission statement with Dr. Jack Wilkie. He helped save over 24,000 babies while standing up for their right to life. Pastor Sanders was a pioneer along with Martha Lippett in starting the homeschool movement in Ohio in the 1970s. That was the very beginning of the homeschool movement. He has pastor churches for 50 years and for five years, pastor two churches at the same time, which is very difficult to do. Pastor Sanders has written and recorded over 40 songs and has sent out over 40,000 CDs to his radio listeners. He has been on the radio coast to coast for 51 years. Pastor Ernie Sanders has been married to his lovely wife Ellen for 57 years. They share two sons, Timothy and Matthew and a grandson, Jacob. If you're wondering how he was able to do all that, it's because this young man is just 85 years young.

2:05He has more vigor and vim than most people over 20. Welcome to our show. We're such an honor to have you with us. Thank you for being here. I'm actually just 80. I wonder if she put that in there. Oh, I need you 85. Yeah. It was a great 85. We still look great for 80. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much. You know, what we were talking about before as we went into here, I would just preach just what if the fact I think what my message is going to be what if the pastors that courage you were talking about courageous pastors, you know, obviously scripture tells you that judgment begins in the house of God and in that house it begins in that pulpit and the pastors are the ones that are responsible. And, you know, America's national sin is killing its children. It's a horrible sin. But somehow it's like, well, this isn't really that big a sin in Canada just

3:06now, just in Canada right now they have legislation where you can euthanize babies that are, you know, one or two years old and they want to pass the legislation they're working on that children. And I'm talking 9, 10 year olds if they get depressed and they feel like they're tired of living, they don't need their parents permission, they can kill them. And so this is evil. This is evil. We really went on a rant on Friday night, John met her and I on what they just did in Massachusetts. They just passed legislation. They celebrated. You had these people were having a party because the past legislation is saying you could kill a baby right up to the time of birth. The same thing happened in New York. I watched it. And the same thing that there's going on in New Jersey and Virginia is trying to put you the same thing. Yes. And California and California you can actually kill a baby now 28 days after he's born.

4:10Okay. So you say, well, I can't believe that it's too long. It's too long there. And so what I was what we were talking about is here's reality. God's word to Bible tells you, you know, if that beg in Genesis 9 verses 3 to 5, the entire purpose of divine human government was to preserve the image of God that being man. The entire fact, okay, it gives you five points of government. By the time you get to Genesis chapter 9 verse 7, the Lord has said three times now to be fruitful and multiplied, to be fruitful and well. What if we actually treated the word of God like we believed it? And the past is actually gone up because see what that tells you is that when you kill a child, God says, first of all, you deserve to die. You deserve to die. Second, unless you repent, you deserve to burn and hell forever. Now what we did of John McTurban

5:12and I, we prayed and precondatory prayers on Friday night. We asked God, we prayed to God that he would either bring the state legislator of Massachusetts and New York and Virginia to repentance or visit the very death, visit the very death that they want for the children upon their own heads. Now let me ask you a question, just think about this because you know the opposition. If you're one of those state legislators and you know that, I mean, you're not a believer but you do know that God does answer the prayers of his people and you hear a pastor on the radio praying that God would visit that very death of on your head. If you don't repent, do you think that might put the fear of God into it? It might, it would be, it certainly may encourage meant in that direction, you know. Well, if the pastor's only had the courage to preach it to where it is and stand up, you know, over the years I've been

6:16arrested multiple times for going out in front of the abortion mills and preaching the word of God, just preaching the word of God. Now I've exposed, they've actually put contracts on me and Cleveland, Ohio because I expose cops that were taking money from the abortion mill that were taking bribes and taken bribes and I went on the air and what happened was in the one case I called the police because I was assaulted by two horse they came up from behind me and they'd say well how do you know they were horse all you had to do is listen to what they were saying they were committed either but they sprayed pepper spray and amaze my eyes so I called the police the police came down they sent two young cops out and I told them I want I want those girls arrested they assaulted me they go into the mill and these idiots actually could walk in on you know 20 minutes later carrying an envelope or in their hands that I can see with cash

7:18sticking out of it and I said aren't you guys making enough as cops you have to take bribes and they said pastor if they don't want to hear it they don't want to hear it they were laughing well those two that recognize I got their badge numbers they had their badge in their names and so I thought I I will help them out so I went on a radio and I said folks out there listening we got two officers that have to take bribes when they have borrows your mill for you know those they were killing babies and if you need security let's just say you have cock fights a dog fights it may be child porn and you need police officers got more no morals no values will do anything for a dollar I gave the phone number for the fourth precinct and that their name was well what happened was uh two days later when I get back out to the preach again there's two police cars sitting there there's always one but now there's two watching me and one of them pulls up real slow and police officers say pastor yeah you said see that car

8:23over there I see I see it they said well they're watching you I said they're always watching me he said oh it's different this time he said they've got a contact on you there's a contract right now that they they want to kill you and we're watching we're we're here watching them oh thank god yeah it was and because and they said we want to thank you because they give all of us a bad name down here okay yeah but I we've had the battle I've had to battle this for years if the pastor see understood something look if you read in Hebrews chapter 13 verse 7 to 17 who is the king to go to who is the congressman to go to who is the senator to go to and say what's sad the lord got in other words before they make their decision you know Romans 13 when he's talking about legitimate government legitimate government are those that are in concert with a word of God yeah there to go to the pastor in the pastor to say to the

9:29president the pastor is to say and so if the if the pastor's really understood that the authority they have you know when they haul me into court they ask you the judge wanted to be on the appeals court so he needed the vote of the ACLU and so I was I was going to be if he was to sell me and this judge really hated to do that in a way because he's been known to be pro-life but I was I was what it took if he could sell me to the ACLU then he they would vote for him that was the deal it was made say I know because some of the judges the judges either my friends or my enemies out there all of them yeah and so when when the judge awards the ACLU he said pastor Sanders I'm ordering you to pay the ACLU in 20,000 he wanted me to give him 20,000 okay for what I know for because we were out

10:30at the killing center and they had charged me with criminal trespassing you had to see this I was I was totally at the other end of the abortion middle and I had a McDonald's a couple McDonald's coffee the big cup and they had to blow it away and I was breaking that and they claimed that that was a microphone or a megaphone I had and I was breaking the ordinance and so where our lawyers brought in a television set and they sent it up to show you it was clearly so the judge said well that didn't work Linda that was not going to work then listen to this they brought this guy that said that I threatened his life and I'm sending not 10 freight from him on the front and they breaking him out and they said you know pastor Sanders he says yeah I know him anywhere he's a short Italian guy the whole courtroom burst out laughing okay I'm not short and I'm not

11:31Italian the whole court and so then they brought his girlfriend out when they brought his girlfriend out they they pointed they said that's him right there right the whole court sell this and uh and they she said you know pastor Sanders yeah he called me a whore and threatened to kill me you know I never spoke to her I know as a person I ever saw her okay but anyhow that's what it was all about so he awarded them a $20,000 uh from win and I told him I said you might as well make it 20 billion I'm not I won't give him 20 cents he said even if this court orders I said even if this court orders I said the Bible taches that away obey God and not man and you know it and that applies to you too and you know it and he just put us in this and then see if the pastures were bold if they were bold they were scared you know Friday just coming Friday I've got I'm not

12:32going to be on the radio I've got two judges that are sitting in my place okay they're going to take my place to do the program see you take two judges to replace one pastor yeah and if the pastor only had the boldness like you said yeah we it wouldn't be the way it is and they're the ones that have the responsibility more than anybody that's true hey man so what happened in the end did you end up would they have to go to jail because you didn't wouldn't pay the 20,000 now we took it to the appeals court mm-hmm and uh my lawyer bottle inch he went in there now here's three on the appeals court three democrats these three democrats and they're telling her led we want to give you the win but you haven't given us any wall uh Constra Lynch here has given us nothing but the law he used the case a previous case about unions where situation was the same way with a union freedom of

13:38speech this and that and what and uh what what how the court had ruled in the past he used that and out of the three democrats two of them voted in our favor and we won that case but I went to pay her anyhow she asked the judge see I don't have anything in my name you know I I used to have a lot of rental properties and then I put but but people were always trying to kill me so I took everything on my name and put it in my wife's name okay yeah I've had several attempts they shot at me twice they tried to run me over I got poisoned once uh but you see you'll learn a lot by being bold out there uh and then yes they can't do anything to you gods god is the one he calls the time answering and so we want we beat him in the end and she came up to me and said one of these days he said that for 25 years I've been to have to you and and here's what she did this was the ACLU the head she went to West yoga high school on the next to the school there's a

14:45library big library and she had invited the senior class over there and I stood outside the door she didn't know I was there I was just okay you know a few feet away from her and I would tap in her conversation she was telling these children these seniors that you all your parents nothing you did not ask them to bring you into this world they did it without your permission your room is your area your dresses your closet your doors if they go in there without your permission you can sue your parents do you know that you can actually support goodness well I got that I thought people should know that okay yeah sure well after I put that on a year hold in to got quiet after well yeah oh my goodness and that was in Cleveland as well yeah she was she's a Jewish woman had three Jewish husbands they all three ended up dying leaving their world there

15:49oh my goodness and so yeah yeah a lot of good that'll do or well sounds like Cleveland is a pretty rough place we've been praying at abortion centers here in northern Virginia oh well we started in the 80s and then we've been out of the area we've been praying pretty consistently in the last 13 years we fortunately we haven't had anybody to try to arrest us or I guess to support but we have seen three abortion centers close as a result of people being out there consistently with us praying and you you would you would think that getting churches and pastors go to an abortion center and to pray outside it just to pray they were closed on a consistent basis and be their counsel women they're coming in to get abortions that it would be sort of a slam dunk that'd be easy to get them to do that but they won't do it yeah we only have one pastor he's a priest a Catholic priest and he's the son of former Justice Scalia and he goes out to the abortion center in false church for

16:55junior which is a suburb of Washington DC every Saturday morning at 6.30 and the reason the women are going on at 6.30 is because people have consistently been out there praying at nine o'clock when they used to go in so now they go in at 6.30 to avoid the crowd but other than fog and Scalia no pastors have been out there for 13 years successful weight loss is about changing the gut brain relationship with food I'm Dr. Kelly victory with the wellness company if you don't like needles you love oral dissolving tersepatide rx this doctor design solution works by targeting the GLP1 and GIP receptors that influence appetite and metabolism tersepatide helps with food portion reduction and satiety while changing how the brain responds to engineered sugars and unhealthy fats and unlike injections these are fast absorbing sublingual tablets placed under the tongue paired with an energy boost of B6 and B12 visit twc dot health slash out loud and use code out loud for an

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20:05his website if you're interested hopefully you are is samuel dot org w r w r w l dot org which stands for what's right what's left and tell us where that what's right what's left came from Matthew chapter 25 in the bible those on the right will inherit the kingdom of the lord and those on the left will they'll be bound and and cast into lake of fire and that's what you have today if you believe in god you believe in morals and righteousness they call you a right winger if you are the communists with you believe in everything that gods were the bible calls an abomination you're on the left okay and isn't that something that that would be proper sized over two thousand years ago there and so like an Isaiah chapter 32 it talks about those if you look at that the the liberal and that they it's just unbelievable the hypocrisy of the liberal of that day but if you ever hear of pastor jerry wilkins

21:13i'm not he was with he and i were good friends among we worked together he was very active in the pro-life movement and he was with martin Luther King pivot martin Luther King jerry wilkins and wealth albert out the word would together they were started that and in the beginning they both told me abranathian jerry that everything was straight on the up and up everything was it was on the up and up you know holdings strictly to the word of god until the communists came in and i said well who were the communists and jesse jax he said when he came in he brought the girls and the drugs with him and they told me how Ralph abanathian told me how that martin Luther King in the beginning used to say to jesse jax and you got to quit that lion boy you got to quit that lion but it helped i just said all that to say that jerry and i went down to what they called church square church square here in cleavant

22:15and it's because you have several churches black churches they're black churches and so i went down the we went down and we preached i brought all kinds of literature on the right to life and they all these pastors they were going to yep we're gonna get out there we're gonna get out we're gonna take over we're gonna shut down the abortion mills there in church square and we're going to go over to blood alley blood alley shaker bull of art has here and you may have heard of the shakers that's where the shakers started there but on you had in two black areas on four corners all four corners you had an abortion mill and now there was four of them there one of them out and another one came in all together there was five and i ran them all out except for one preterm and that's a high-end largest abortion mills preterm abortion mill i did run them out of public square they were up in cleavant down to where they're at now over there on blood alley but yeah that's what

23:21is called called blood alley here because of the killing we have we we had some very interacity exciting times out there on blood alley and you know that's the other thing people would would know that by doing the Lord's work by having the courage and the zeal you can have a lot of fun too in the way we yeah yeah i've had a lot of fun done a lot of television programs and where i've gone up against the opposition and god has just blessed me with the ability to turn them every which way to believe okay well it's always fun to save a baby if you can talk to a woman have her change your mind and go to the nearest crisis pregnancy center and know that she's going to choose life that's that's a great you know that's a great blessing absolutely here you know we have a woman named Amy acting is running for governor Amy is a wicked wicked woman very wicked she was a part of infiliate with plant parenthood and when we had the COVID thing come up

24:29she she wanted to close all the church closed all the churches closed all the crisis pregnancy centers one closed she allowed abortion bills to stay open yeah she was yeah she was the it was surge in general whatever ahead of the year and she allowed the abortion bills to liquor stores in the pot stores to stay open but the churches and the crisis pregnancy centers had to close we didn't close i went on the air and i said we're going to be open we're going to be doing business because we're going to obey god and not Amy acting and uh in the and we did not one we weren't closed for a minute that's great pastor Ernie if we're sitting here listening to you and i'm discerning and you have a warrior spirit about you and i think that's wonderful um and that's what it's going to take to end this genocide um we have not seen enough pastors who are willing to fight against this this evil in our society what's it going to take for the church to turn this issue around

25:31because we've got to end if we don't end it it's it's going to end everything good in America i mean the church will end if the church will not end abortion the church is going to end well remember during the revolutionary war when when that started out of very there was a very uh small percentage of the people were for liberty and independence and you know that from Genesis the revelation gods words the bible teaches resistance to tyranny is obedience to god every time and failure to resist tyranny is disobedience James 417 says for those that noted do good and do it not to them and it's sin okay and so when what happened is when the pastors in that day remember they said no we have to obey the king uh and and yet they knew but they just didn't have the courage of as majority but when those when George Washington started out you know he started out with 300 men and when that battle when everything started changing he

26:35started winning all these battles then those pastors in fact in this book here it talks about some of those where right you had brothers that were both pastors and how they you know one was for the king and the other was for liberty and how that turned around how they changed one by one and decided to uh to follow in general George instead of king George so it's good to take I guess courage they have to see it's I'd say courage definitely courage and probably willing to stay lay everything down for for righteousness you know we're not going to get a country back without some sacrifice you know it's going to cost us something maybe everything and the lexington there was a pastor named Jonas Clark and he was hosting the night that Paul Revere wrote into town he knocked on Jonas Clark's door and Jonas Clark answered the door and his staying with Clark that night were John Hancock and Sam Adams and who were both sons of liberty and their British

27:36were coming to arrest them probably take them put them away in stocks and maybe execute them and Clark was considered as one historian said he was more dangerous than all the military stores in conqueror and the colony because he had so influenced the minds of the people with his calm and deep indignation that when regulars came marching up the old turnpike on the gray dawn of April 1975 he found all the farmers converted to a doctorate of liberty that armed to sustain a young nation for seven years of war that's a pastor in my opinion and he had incredible courage when Paul Revere said said to him sir we your people fight the pastor responded I prepared them for this very hour because he had actually helped to train the militia in lexington pastor Clark had it wasn't he wasn't a weakling his election day service in this book here and it's a good one and we'll revest tell us the name of the book and the author is the chaplain's entourgy of the revolution by J.T. Headley and the book was written a long time ago it was written

28:44in back in 1800 so but it's very very accurate and well I'm going to tell you those were men back in those days you see men were men and the women were women we only had two genders back then and that was days and it worked out real good yeah that's how we were able to multiply absolutely how we were able to be fruitful and multiply you know we were talking about the insanity to think about this you know if you could get this mindset across the past the people were up against in many many ways they're kind of criminally insane now think about when they talk about woke two on us and I had to tell us about that they had at their convention in Chicago first of all these are the same people they want it they just now come out and they're changing the wording no longer are mothers called mothers they can't be called none or nursing mothers

29:52or breasts are called chest feeders they're changing the terminology completely and think about this think about this for a minute here you have people in Minnesota and California they put tampons in the boys bathrooms now figure you're a 10 12 year old boy and you have tampons in your bathrooms what is what is that telling you okay I mean this is absolute insanity um here back about a few months back well last year especially but early in the spring time you had these women that were spending two thousand dollars to go out for a three day weekend two thousand dollars to go for a three day weekend out in the woods and scream at trees they were out oh my goodness we recorded their screaming I mean you'll hear the screaming it's like you can hear hell and they're screaming but they can they spend two thousand dollars to scream at trees I

30:56I got trees I wouldn't let them scream down for a thousand you know or less okay but now think of that what do you think the trees care I don't think so then you have uh this past thing they they did the things with the watermelons that a watermelon represented a white man that they didn't like it was one of a white man that they didn't like especially pastures most of the watermelons were truck with president truck and they would take they would take watermelons and they would beat them with ballpats and crushing and then they would they would get relief from doing that oh my gosh see these these are are the enemy out there what is the tell you think John gospel John chapter 8 Jesus is what he was talking to the Pharisees and he said your father the devil because you're the devil's children he touched those that obey the will of the devil or his children well yeah

32:00or the devil's children okay that's true it's it's really it's so we have to act like that and you know I could I can tell you sometimes you can have fun we had this one woman we were out we we were protested in a abortion bill and this red head of woman she stops and it's straight she jumps out of her car she runs up and she yells this is my body I said I can see that and I feel real bad for you I wish there was something like you do to help you and everybody burst out laughing at her okay and that made the news okay oh my gosh it made the news yeah so here here's here do you remember fellow shaftley yeah yeah the shaftley legal form woman lady what a wonderful lady she absolutely she called me one day years ago and said I've got to stop the ERA and they said there ain't no way that you're gonna stop that

33:03and she said I need help and she says what do you say as it let's fight let's fight so I got into that with her so they they were they were gonna have on public square these pro life a pro life a pro abortion rally down there and then they were going to burn these socks there was this sort of yeah they were sorry men socks and on on the socks it has sayings like strike a blow from mankind punch out a liver and these things on these socks so they were gonna burn the socks and then they were gonna burn their bras and so so I went down there and I've said the watch though they were burning the socks and so then they come time to burn their bras and I said women listen listen to me I know you don't like me but please listen to me what I'm what I'm gonna tell you here because this is for your own health and safety I said before you

34:05burn those bras take them on it was like the that's not a good idea everybody first out laugh and that's the whole got out in the news out there and then you can have some what would these people if you really would feel every now and then like you did even a hawk turned so a truffle I had when I was young back in the early days in radio I'm one the last left for the original the old guys I was the only you could count on one hand all conservative talk shows in the country back there we got into it with the far left here and I mean I used to go really go out I don't know if you ever heard a Gary D Gilbert he was number one this shot he for three years in a row all of America him and I usually get into it a number of these others and I would go on their programs and they would go online and because I was young they thought to take they could

35:10take advantage but God just blessed me and every time you know I just he just spoke through me and I was able to really turn them inside out on that yeah so if you have my point I'm saying all this is just to say if you just really love to be obedient to the Lord if you just well bay him if you really want to hear those words well done my good and famous sir you know and your heart is in there God bless you he will yes may man are you looking for a healthy snacks but you've had enough of all the sweet sugary energy bars good news there's new bars to try that savory crunchy impact with goodness bear bars are based just on six simple natural ingredients a certified organic veggie nut and seed bar that's low temp dried never baked or fried bear bars are plant based gluten

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38:27and the left, particularly you were mentioning Tucker Carlson. I'm not sure if he's on the right or the left. You want to share some of the things you were sharing during the break? I preach the message to you why the world hates Israel and do the right on the chapter 28. God starts out with talking about all the blessings. All the blessings that Israel would receive that they'll only be obedient to them. See from Genesis to Revelation, Bill, you know, the number one thing that God asks or insists on is obedience. And so he goes and then he tells them all of these things that they could have. And then he goes into all the curses that they would receive if they're not obedient to him. I mean, and there's some pretty very, very harsh punishments in there. In fact, here, the harshest punishment that God had put on anyone is what in America is our national sinner.

39:31He's killing the children. He reduced them to cannibalism, to cannibalism, to where they had to eat each other because of their sin. And so we talked about why why does the world hate Israel? Well, God tells you in there that he will make them because of their disobedience. He will make them a curse to the nations and here and just think about it here. Not only is the United States of the church supposed to be the church divided on Israel, the left is two. So you have those of us that we're up. We have some major problems with people that, you know, that have become totally anti-Israel. First of all, let me just say this, Israel is a very, very rebellious country. Israel for its size or its population, it has the highest abortion rate.

40:36It's got the highest prostitution rate. Child pornography. Israel for it is very, very sinful people like America. And also they just had their LGBT, their Sotomites, the biggest Sotomites, gatherings in Moutou. They had one in Tel Aviv and they had one right there on the shores of the Dead Sea right where Sotomat Gomorrah was. And do you know what they called that gathering they had? They called it the burning. They called it the burning. Unbelievable. Yeah, it is. I mean, the sin was horrible. I mean, just horrible. And same thing in America. But now here's what I'm telling because friends of mine who should know better, they want me to condemn Israel for doing this.

41:38Look at me out. But they're here and they want to come against the Jews. God says that he will punish Israel, that he will judge Israel. God says, keep your hands off Israel. I will judge Israel. Now that's all I need to hear him say to me what? I don't need to hear twice, right? So I take him and I show him a scripture. Here's what God says. And it's somehow people that shouldn't know better don't seem to know better. But on the left they're divided too. You have a big division. You just had the attorney general there. Michigan who is very corrupt woman, very corrupt. Yeah. But she's a Jewish woman and she said she couldn't go. She was afraid to go to the convention there in Chicago being a Jew. She was afraid to hurt her. She might be in danger because she's a Jew. You have people like Bill Marr, who's a Jew.

42:40But here's something that I find out the most anti-Semitic people I've ever met, including the ones that were within my own church, are Jewish. Yeah. They're Jewish. Like George Soros, for example, okay? And these others, I know several people that are totally anti-Israel, totally anti-Semitic, and they're Jewish. You know, so it's like, again, it's the insanity. There isn't. Yes. Yeah. It is insanity. What were you saying earlier about Tucker Carlson and his position lately? I have a problem even in my own church. Okay. I have people that follow Tucker Carlson and these others. Very anti-Semitic. Okay. We had, I mean, we went into a battle in a war. I got someone who I thought were like family to us in our church.

43:44They left and they called me a Jew loving Zionist. Okay. Yeah. It's not funny. It's crazy. No, it's what's going on for sure. Yeah. I mean, this is serious. This is happening all over our own son is who is a solid Christianist now taking the same kind of viewpoint. This way. I know. And it's all because of Tucker Carlson. Okay. It's been a while for years, but Carlson, as he just came out now and said that Trump needs to be removed. Okay. You just came out. Yeah. That's incredible. But it's it's great Greece. It's it's candid so it's stuck with Carlson. You know, I was one of the first ones to put Alex Jones under radio, but I think I was the first one. Really? What do you think of him? Well, Alex is going anti-Israel, but he's not anti-Trump. The other is the guy. Yeah. So I thought. The others are going both anti-Israel and anti-Trump.

44:46Okay. Dr. Carlson is going off. He is going off the deep end. I know there's a number of applications at the first year on chapter two where he talks, but they came off from us, but they were never part of us had they been part of us. They would have continued with us. And that and there's an application there, I think, to to that to monitor and do. But all of these people like Tucker, it's like that it's like that they were there waiting, just waiting for the time to come out and I'm determined on us. And Tucker is talking about running for president now. All right. I don't think he's going to be happy. You have a number of these other people like Candace Owens, you know, Cheesy. You know, I could never, I preached a message on profoundly a while back. I never thought I would ever hear these women, you know, when I was growing up,

45:47you never heard a woman. I mean, that would use those words. They're out there dropping the up on everyone else. Okay. My own senator here from Ohio actually had a senator hearing and then they're not hearing. And he's very, very conservative helping him. He dropped the up on them and they sent it to a hearing. You know, I play these clips on the radio. I couldn't play that. Now. Well, they're doing it that they have group they call the squat. The one who's going to leave on there. He was, she's standing there with a ten year of boy next to her and she's dropping. She's speaking to the president and dropping it all over. Yeah. These are all signs of the last days, all signs of the last day. Yes. In fact, that's what I'm preaching on now. I started out with second Timothy, chapter three.

46:48And you'll notice something, Bill. The second Timothy three, in Romans one, you have a lot of the same afterbures and characterisms in Romans chapter one. The differences in Romans one, they're talking to everybody. But in second Timothy, chapter three, he's speaking within the church, within the church there. Right. And you have that. So these, these are the days that we are seeing. I believe the unsealing of the book that Daniel spoke about in Daniel 12, three of four. And then sometimes where knowledge was going to be increased. I mean, right now you, I remember, I remember the first computers, but I went into the military. The computers were the size of refrigerators. Okay. Now this thing has more functions than those computers. Right. But at back then, knowledge was being increased. They said knowledge would double within every 50 years.

47:49Then now it's, it's with every couple hours. Yeah. And double hours knowledge is doubled. Now you didn't say the truth would be doubled. He said knowledge and boy, there's a lot of on the internet that's not the truth for sure. So we're seeing the unsealing said that's the unsealing of the book. We're thinking. I was thinking this morning as I woke up, you know, the verse in the book of Thessalonians, where Paul is writing to the church and puts that's all like that. And he says he talks about a time coming when God is going to send strong delusion on people so that they will in order to make them believe a lie. They might all be damned to not perceive did not receive a love of the truth, but believed in lies. You know, it's amazing that God is going to foster the belief in lies that people are going to embrace that they could be saved, but they're not because they're embracing lies. They hate the truth. So they're being, you know, God sending them to the illusion.

48:50He's giving in what they want. Well, you know, if you read nice day at chapter 66 verse four, because of their sin, you know, God says your sacrifices and your religion is false because of what you're doing. I will choose your delusion. I will choose your delusion. Now think about that. We got people screaming at trees out there. This is a smash and water. And God hasn't chosen their delusions out there. I mean, if you ever, if you ever seen the Harris, Kamala Harris talk, talk about the school bus. Okay. You ever heard her. Yeah, pretty funny. I couldn't believe that her yellow school bus. I mean, unbelievable. And she was ready for president. Yes, absolutely. I have a question for you. You were talking. I want to go back to what you were saying about Israel being so evil in our time.

49:52Of course, we know that there are Jews who are believers. We know that there are metzianic Jews in Israel. I heard Tucker on a podcast just this week. It was a recorded podcast. I was talking about the Jewish people who are going to be talking about me. And what she's saying, evangelical Christians are saying that Jews don't need Jesus to go to heaven. Because they're the chosen one. Like, I don't know of any evangelical Christians that are saying that Jews will get to go to heaven because there's the chosen people. John Hayes. John Hayes. He is actually saying that if they can go to heaven, even if they don't believe in Christ. So we're going to be talking about the Jewish people. We're going to be talking about the Jewish people. We're going to be talking about the Jewish people. We're going to be talking about the Jewish people. Because he believes they're going to go to heaven without knowing Jesus. Yeah. Anybody else saying that? Have you ever heard that?

50:52You know, here's the thing. I was in Israel and I was talking to a group of Orthodox Jews. And they told me that we're not stupid. We recognize Jesus Christ is Messiah. That Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Okay, they recognize that. They recognize Isaiah 53. But after saying that, then they say, by believing in your faith in Christ and by keeping the laws of Moses, then you will have salvation. You get to heaven. But you have to do both. You have to keep both the laws of the Old Testament and the Messiah. But they won't. Like we say, well, let's look at this. Let's study this. Let's sit down and see what the Word of God actually has to say. You know, both in a Torah and the New Testament. They won't do it. They will not do it. Okay. Wow. In fact, they'll get angry at you, even for asking.

51:54You're doing it. Mm hmm. And so. So, so word. Why should we. I'm just going to play that devil's advocate. Why should we be praying for Israel and believing for them to come to Christ? Because God tells us. We just write them off as a sense of nation. Say that. No, because God tells us to see it and go back to Genesis 12 verse three. Okay. Those that bless Israel. Okay. That was it. Abrahamic come to cover. Those that are blessing to Israel. Now, remember, not all Israel's Israel. Remember what the Apostle Paul says? Not all of Israel's Israel. Remember what Jesus said there in Revelation chapter three. That those that say they are Jews, but are not. They're of the synagogue of Satan. Jesus and Paul both speak about the seed of Abraham, which are all Jews. But then they talk about true Israel is the sons of Abraham. So there's a big difference between the seed of Abraham and the sons of Abraham.

52:58All the Jews that are seed, but only those that are saved. And they'll tell you that in Zachariah chapter 13 verse nine tells you that those one third, one third of Israel will receive Jesus Christ those are sons of Abraham. They are true Israel. They will receive Christ just like a church. What do you what would you say? I would say maybe, maybe today most of the one is called the church in America. Maybe maybe 20% of the most are actually Christians. That would be my opinion. What do you think? I'd say that's it's probably a pretty safe estimate. I would tend to agree without judging any specific person, you know, just because a person says their Christian doesn't make them one. Well, you have all the apostate denominations today. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no. For sure. It wouldn't be more than that percentage.

54:00Well, we appreciate your coming on with us today. Pastor Sanders. And we just want to repeat again that your website is WRWL.org. If you have a radio show, people can access your radio show. They can go to the word cleveland.com anytime of day and hit Pastor Sanders. Pastor Sanders has a lot to say and a lot of different topics. And we just encourage you to go listen to his radio shows. And if you want to hear more about America's Black Road regimen, go to brrusa.org. Or go to our website. You want to encourage pastors to do that. You have a document on our website called the Gideon's 300 Pledge. We're trying to get pastors to sign that pledge. And Pastor Ernie, we love to have you sign it. The more pastors that get on board, they're basically committing to do the things that are necessary to turn this country around and save it. Sign me up, Phil. I'm all in.

55:00I'm 100% in. I've had a black robe hanging there from my office now. For years and said somebody said I'm going to go buy a black robe because I'm getting ready to get get a PhD from the organization here in northern Virginia. So tell us a name of that book again about the 100 stories about the black robe regimen from the historical air of the revolutionary war. The chaplains and the clergy of the revolution by JT Hedley. And it is a dynamite. It's absence 100 election day sermons in this book from different pastors. And that's what we encourage pastors to sign. Pastor, one election. We're not about the pulpit of the American Revolution. Go to the web and do a Google search on on pulpit of the revolution and start to read the documents that come up. You're going to find a ton of documents related to the American pulpit during the American Revolution.

56:01And the seminal role that pastors played in the founding of this nation. They were more responsible for the founding of America than really the minimum call the founding fathers worth. Absolutely. Thank you for being with us today. Pastor, and it's been great. A great show. Look forward to doing this again very soon. I'm coming on yours either way. You want me back? I'll be glad to come. That's great. God bless you so much. God bless you. Thank you so much. Both of you. Have a wonderful, wonderful, labor day. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And so what did Ben Franklin say to the woman who said, what have you gotten us? What kind of government have you gotten us? And he said, a republic if you can keep it.