Temurah 5:1

0:00Timura, parake, mission, all of five, one. We said in the past couple of procken that there are certain animals that derive their status as a, as cutchum, as a carbon based on another animal. The primary case of that is the Timura, which drives the status from the source from which the tukutushu is transferred, but we also mentioned there's this Vlad, the offspring of a carbon. And we basically said that the, the Vlad, the offspring has the same status as his mother. We're going to explore that little more on how that works a little bit in this mission. Now, this mission is actually a very difficult mission. We're going to go with the prescient of the Bartendera and stick to his prescient only. There are other approaches, and they were shown on and essentially in the Gamara. And this mission actually, two separate unrelated cases of the Bartendera explains it. They are, there's no signposts in the mission that we've changed the case B from case A. In any case, we'll do each one one at a time. The first is talking about a cow goater sheep that is a female. And it has never given birth before.

1:00So we learn back in Misecha's Bukhoros that the petterachim, the first animal that is born from this cow goater sheep, if it's a male has a status to being Bukhor, and the Bukhor is given to the cow. And the cowin essentially will offer it as a carbon and eat it if it's a, if it's not, if it's not, to me, then he'll eat it. In any case, I'll check the new labring as a carbon. A little events, what that essentially means is that the Bukhor, it means is a net economic loss to the Bukhor and the farmer, the biome. Right? So he, when he has a first born male animal, cow goater sheep, he gives it to the cone. He gets nothing out of it. So our mission is now by saying, Kated Maaremen al-Bukhor, how can he be clever with respect to the Bukhor, in a way that you actually can get some economic benefit out of this first born male cow goater sheep? So says the Mishna, Mivakarit, Shahaisam Uberit, if you have a cow goater sheep that has never given birth before. And now it's pregnant. Omar, if the owner of this cow says, Masha bemehaha, Chalzoo, the fetus that's inside of

2:04this animal, imzachar, if it's a male, Ola, I can't create it now to be a carbon Ola while it's still in Yudro, inside of its mother. Then Yalda Zachar, if the animal gives, if the mother gives birth to a male offspring, it could have Ola. It can be brought as an Ola, instead of as a Bukhor. Now how does this have any benefit at all to the farmer, the owner of the cow? The answer is, let's say he has to bring an Ola from time to time, whether he committed to bring an Ola voluntarily or let's say three times a year, you're bringing Ola straight. Yeah. Payslach, fruit, asukas, when you go to the legal regal. So here essentially you can save yourself the money of buying a separate Ola by using your own animals first born by declaring it an Ola while it's still inside of the, on born, inside the, inside the parent, the mother. So that's how you're a marimba, you're being sort of clever because you're, there's a subterfuge here, you're a side stepping obligation to give it into the cow and instead using this for your own purposes. Now the truth is that this is folks specifically in the Ola as much as an Ola is a male animal

3:09and we're talking specifically about Bukhor is also of course a male animal. You could also have brought a shlamam the same way, shlamam can also be a male, but the mission doesn't say that's because there's a dindir abanan that one may not do that because in some ways a Bukhor is more kadoosh than a regular shlamam and as much as it's eaten only by Kohanam, whereas a shlamam can be of anybody. So there's a dindir abanan that one may not consecrate an animal in utero that to be a shlamam to circumvent it becoming a Bukhor. You actually can't do but an Ola because Ola is cut, she cuts him, it all goes to Musbeach, that you could do. Okay, that's the first part of our mission. Now the second part of our mission, there's no indication we've gone to a new case, but according to the Barathanor it's a whole new case here and that case is the case of a catas, this is a female animal's a catas, kadooshii, which has now is pregnant with the baby Neudero. Now, we actually talked about the Vlada catas before in the previous paragraph you recall the dinner of the Vlada catas, the offspring of a catas is one of the five

4:10catas, a masel, so it has to be left to die. I'm just going to say a way that you can circumvent that and save this unborn animal from getting that destiny. How do you do that? Again, you consecrate the animal while it's still in utero. Now, there is a mochlocus tenayim, which was the when an animal that's a fetus inside gets its status of its mother. So according to one opinion, as it's a form in there, it's part of the mother and gets status of the mother. But there's another shita, Rameshim Gumballil, who will see explicitly saying this in the next mission, holds that the animal, the fetus doesn't get its status until the animal comes out, the baby's born and then that's the point the Vlada gets the status of its whatever its status is going to be. So that means you can consecrate the animal while still in utero and will take the status of the consecration of the status of the mother and its silly. So in this case, of the khatas, the vlada khatas, if you consecrate the animal while

5:13still the fetus, while still inside the mother, the mother can be khatas and the offspring inside could be an ola or a shlum. Okay, that's how this mission goes, like that time, Rameshim Gumballil, which holds that the animal that they feed the vlada, the offspring doesn't get the status of the mother until it's actually born. Just want to contrast here. The previous mission that we were talking about a bechor, a bechor, you don't need to come on this mochlocus. The bechor certainly only gets the status as a bechor of first born male khatas, when it's actually born. That's for sure coined everybody. So for example, if there were twins in the womb and you want to switch them to bechor until it actually is pulled to the rech, until it actually comes out first, where there's only one animal there, but it's taken, you know, you know, it's a dolphin extractive on the side like cesarean section, it's not a bechor. So for sure, bechor status is different in as much as it for sure only gets the status of being a bechor once it's actually born. But the other animals will be mochlocus tonight, and this ton of here is going with the approach that we're talking about, that it does only get the status of its mother once

6:17it's actually born, so you can give it a status before that. And we're specifically to want the case of a khatas, says the bartender. So in the context of a khatas, if you want to save it's blood, it's all string from becoming one of the khatas. So as the masos has been left to die, you could, says the mishnah, ve imne keva, if a person declares regarding his pregnant khatas, again, the mishnah doesn't say that, but that's the bartender learns. And he says imne keva, if what's inside the belly of this khatas is a female, then zivhe shlamin, let it be consecrated to be a shlamin offering. Yal dine keva, take rev shlamin, then if the offspring turns out to be a female, it can be brought as a shlamin, not as a khatas, so in other words, it works, because we hold that the status of the parents being a khatas doesn't have until it's born. Here we picked a shlamin, specifically because yes, a shlamin could be a female or a male, but in the previous mishnah we said you can't make your midir bun, you can't make your

7:19bighore into a shlamin only in Ola, because sort of a step down, if you will. Here certainly a khatas is kachay kachim, and a shlamin is a step down, it's kachim kalim, less sanctifying. But again, we're being lenient here because the alternative is the animal is left to die, rather let it go to the mishnah, and be a coward, they're just been left in on a room to die, so therefore it's permitted. Similarly says the mishnah, if the owner of the khatas, whilst pregnant says imzachar ola im the khaybasif khay shlamin, he says listen, I see my animals pregnant, whatever's inside the baby, the womb there, if it's a male, so then let it be an ola, if it's a female, then let it be a shlamin. That's awesome to be effective, and even if yalda zakhar unakheva, if any, even gives birth to two animals, twins, ones a male, ones a female, a zakhar yukrv ola, the male will indeed become an ola, an offer to such, just like you declared, and not a khatas, and yalda zakhar unakheva, the female, tikrv, shlamin, will be offered as a shlamin, again it works, it's effective.

8:21Here we have no sveikas, here we assume that since he said, if it's a male, I want to be an ola, if it's a female, I want to be a shlam, he meant implicit, since it's giving the both, that if it's both, male and female, he wants one of each, okay, because of that, both animals, male and female, both get their, you know, respective statuses as an ola and shlamin.