Super HOT TAKES Part 2

No, I didn't say where, where in the episode description does it say we're reading controversial takes?

What do you think a hot take is?

Is it said it's a hot off the press?

No, it fits on what a hot take is.

That doesn't even, it does, a hot is supposed to be like spicy.

This is, us fighting is the actual start of the show.

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Huh?

Everyone I'm Ryan.

I'm Steve and this is 60s cycle.

We're talking about some more hot takes.

You'll give us a hot take.

Steve says they're not hot enough.

Do you, the audience member, agree or disagree that these hot takes are not hot enough?

Steve says that they have to be wildly controversial.

I'm ready to classify as hot.

That's traditionally what a hot take is, Ryan.

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Well, you know what?

If somebody knows it, this is the audience fault.

They're not giving us takes that are hot enough.

What do you want?

Well, give me an example of a super duper hot take.

I mean, I'm looking through here like a super duper hot take.

Let me find one.

Your first acoustic guitar should be cheap and have a very high action.

It makes you awesome.

You think you get a good guitar?

You think that's controversial?

I think in the year 2026, that's an extremely controversial.

All right, there's a first one.

That's a definite one.

Here we go.

We were going to do a different one.

Sorry, Emily, we picked someone else's.

Should your first acoustic guitar suck?

Yeah, that's, I disagree with this completely.

You used to, we've disagreed with this premise for years.

That's what makes it a hot take.

Well, I'm going to, I'm going to bring in the devil

because I'm going to advocate for him.

I'm going to know for it.

I'm going to, my agreeing are disagreeing.

How's it for you to agree?

Apparently you're agreeing.

I am agreeing.

Well, I don't know if the devil's advocate here

because I'm disagreeing with them.

So you're not, you're not playing devil's advocate with them.

You're playing devil's advocate with me.

I know, that's what I'm saying.

I'm aware of the situation.

Okay.

So tell me, Ryan, why I'm here too.

Why every first guitar should have a,

have a quarter inch high action up and down the frontboard.

Well, here's my strum with 13.

Here's my full logical conclusion to the point

that no one will ever actually get there

counter to this argument, counter to your argument

that it shouldn't be the worst guitar ever

that you start on.

It definitely shouldn't be the best

because then where do you have left to go?

Every guitar you play for the rest of your life

is going to be worse than the first guitar you played.

Where that leaves you no dopamine left.

What else is like starting a video game on God mode?

You got to work up.

Counterpoint?

There's not a counterpoint to that

because it's not even the point.

It is a point.

It's a point.

You're telling the perspective, Steve.

So what's your time?

I don't want to talk about that person.

Again, perspective?

No, there's a person I have thought of

and I'm like, I don't want to talk about

the person that you're thinking of.

There has been a number of well-known guitar playing

individuals where it seems like when you dig

into their guitar playing history

that they basically started on what would now be considered.

Okay.

It happens.

It happens.

Their parents or someone in their family

owned a music store and so their first guitar

was a vintage American fender.

But you say that's bad.

Your first guitar should definitely not be...

I think a Gibson Les Paul standard.

Here's my, I think I'll clarify my thinking on this, Steve.

If this isn't our top-viewed episode this year,

what's even going on with the algorithm?

We're fighting right now.

We're aggressively arguing with each other algorithm.

I don't think so.

Hey, algorithm.

I don't think the algorithm is intentional.

Wake up, wake up algorithm.

We're fighting aggressively.

Okay, here, I'm gonna make my point.

Make your point.

The first guitar that I had had a high action.

The first guitar that you had had high action.

Yeah.

The first guitar, most people of our generation started on

either had high action or action that was way too low.

Something was wrong with the guitar that we all started on.

And we, okay.

I'm not saying that everyone needs to start there,

but I think everyone should start, not everyone,

but I think it is beneficial.

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna paint with the widest brush

possible, but I think it is beneficial to a lot of people

to start with something that isn't perfectly ideal.

And gives you room to grow, gives you room to explore

like what could be better.

Like, you know, I think there is a benefit.

I don't think it's necessary, but I think there is a benefit

to having your first bike have training wheels on it

a little bit, I guess.

I guess that's not a good metaphor.

That's the opposite.

That's the opposite.

No, but like, you're actually, no, no, here's what you're saying.

Blind for your first bike to be a shwint from Target.

No, no, back, back this the hell up.

What, did you, let me ask you a couple questions.

Did your first, did your kids first bike have training wheels?

The training wheels thing already said it was a bad metaphor.

Did your kids first bike fit them?

Yes.

So you're already blowing up your own point

by the way you treat your own children

by buying them appropriate tools for the job.

Why do I hate my kids like that?

Your kids should have only ridden adult-sized bicycles

that were too big for them without training wheels.

According to this logic.

That's not even what I'm saying.

That's the logic.

No, it's not.

Because their first guitar could be like a child-sized guitar

of a short scale, like I've been as many or whatever.

Right, but the point is that their first guitar

should be difficult.

They should struggle.

Not that it should be difficult

and that it should be a full struggle.

Your first guitar should be cheap and have very high action.

You should hate your first guitar.

All right, fine.

You should fight with your first guitar.

Only survivors deserve to play guitar.

That's what is being said here.

What are we classifying?

What are we classifying as very high action?

I'm saying like quarter inch.

I'm saying like a normal ten-year-old cannot play this guitar.

Quarter inch is not that high.

At like the first fret.

At the first fret, what is wrong?

I thought we were talking about the 12th fret.

What? No.

I'm saying the entire fretboard should not be a quarter.

I agree.

There should not be a quarter inch of action.

But that's what this person is arguing for.

That's what they're arguing for.

High action at the 12th fret.

Who cares?

You're a beginner.

You don't play that high.

Okay, Steve, you got me.

You convinced me.

I'm a disagree now.

That's why this is a hot tank.

Okay.

All right.

This person say, it makes you awesome

when you get your first guitar, good guitar later.

This guy is like, your first guitar should be a workout.

All right, now we're going to do the one

that I wanted to start with.

Your first guitar should be a workout.

This one, this one's from Emily from Get Offset.

Yeah.

Let's see if we fight about this one.

It's a paraphrase this one.

Guitar music sucks.

Says Emily in completely different words than that.

She says guitar skill is on a bell curve

or both ends of the bell curve, best slash worst.

Our makes unlistenable music.

Hard agree, most of the time.

I agree to it.

Maybe a medium agree.

I agree.

Well, how are we supposed to fight if we both agree?

The shag's horrible.

Worthless, don't listen to that.

Bolivia, horrible, worthless, terrible music.

But they still have their appreciators.

But their appreciators.

Yeah, but it are guitar people.

And I think we need to stop trusting guitar people

or honestly single instrumentalists

to be a source of being able to judge

whether or not music is good or bad for everyone else.

Of course, a guitarist can be like,

man, I've been loving this guitar album.

Oh, man, I listen to that.

It's all about this guitarist.

And he gathered together all five of the best guitarists

and they made an album together.

And it's all guitar, even the drums are guitar.

Like, that could be masterful.

But it's also something that most people

do not want to listen to.

And the other side of the bell curve is, you know,

someone who's just started

and they're fumbling their way through Wonderwall.

And they might have a recording set up of some sort.

And when we were young, it would have been a task ham.

Nowadays, they just have logic.

You know, they're in Cubase, they're in cake.

I don't know what they're doing.

They're in a full-blown DAW making albums

and they've been playing guitar a week.

And no one's going to want to listen to that

because it's just going to be from the perspective

of I just learned a guitar.

All right, I mean, there's like lots of,

you could Jordan Peterson this, you know,

what do you mean by skill?

What do you mean by mean?

What do you mean by mean?

What do you mean unlistenable?

What does that mean?

All right, okay, I know the example you're giving

is full band, band, band, band.

I can't talk.

Pandantic.

Pandantic.

Pandantic.

No, I'm just being a, being a Jordan Peterson.

Um, but to the point, the flip side,

I think they say that word so much.

The flip side of this is, you know,

in terms of guitar skill, one, I think,

you know, when you're talking about the ends of the bell curve,

right?

You're right.

You're right.

You're five most skilled players, right?

You're, you're bottom end of the bell curve

is your five worst guitar players, right?

Everyone else is somewhere in, you know,

most people are in this middle hump, right?

I think here's what I want to know

when you were done making your point, Steve,

who for you is personally at the top of that middle hump?

So you could continue your point

about the extremes of the bell curve.

So my point being in terms of, you know,

I think the average guitarist, the guitarist,

that's going to sit between maybe 40 and 60 percent

on that curve are your, are your strummers?

Sure.

You know, they have a base, they have a,

uh, understood enough of an understanding of rhythm

that they can vary, they can play wonder wall

and get pretty close to the rhythm of wonder wall.

Who's the most arguably listenable

to the general population musician of like the last 10 years?

Arguably listenable, probably Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift.

You're who is right there, who is possibly also

one of the most like one of the average, just good.

Apparently bad bunny is huge in the whole world too.

Like I, no, yeah, I don't listen

to either of these people's music.

So I really don't have an actual opinion.

I don't know if bad bunny plays guitar.

He probably does, probably, you know,

everybody plays a little guitar.

But at least for like the, for, I guess for Americans,

it's Taylor Swift, right?

Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm painting with a very average.

I'm actually thinking this in broader strokes

of all instruments.

I mean, I think you could apply it.

I, I, no one wants skill of instrument.

Right, right.

I, well, here, I, I think I'm looking through this,

through the lens of someone performing a song,

not just playing their instrument.

And I, because I'm looking through it,

through that lens, like if I was recording an album

that had a tuba part in it, of course,

I'd want the most skilled tuba player on the planet.

Right.

You know, I'm going to get the top talent

that I can afford as far as tuba players go.

Does that make it a tuba album?

No, I'm incorporating it in a song album

in this theoretical, when I'm talking about,

when I'm talking about the, the, the extreme low side

and the extreme skilled side of the bell curve

is on the extreme skilled side,

you're getting all of this music that's just made by guitarist

for guitarist.

Yeah.

It's all guitarist.

No one would want to listen, well, a few people,

tuba players would want to listen to an album

that's all just tuba music by tuba players,

four tuba players, and don't worry,

there's a little bit of drums, but it's still mostly tuba.

Like, and we've got bass tuba, you've got piccolo tuba.

We've got, we've got all the tubas.

It's, I bet this exists, but it's,

the majority of the population, it's unlistenable.

No one wants to listen to that.

Right.

Do we all agree?

But like, it's the same thing for guitar,

and I can feel a lot of guitars out there,

puckering their buttholes when I say

that guitar music sucks.

Here, here, I really truly do think, like,

like most people, if you, if you ask most people

who listen to music, hey, do you want to listen to

just straight guitar music, they're gonna say,

no, thank you.

Here's, here's a, you know, thinking about this statistically.

And I'm saying that from someone in a surf band,

where it's like, it's all strange.

I think, I think the worst guitar skill people

are probably making on listenable music

that we will, we will never actually hear.

Of course, it's, it's a low threat, you know,

where the other side of the bell curve,

there's a high threat that we'll have to hear that.

No, I suspect that the most skilled guitar players,

we've also probably will never hear.

Because I'm just not gonna seek them out.

Because they will, they're not gonna hit the radio.

Because they're not making music

that people won't want to listen to.

That's not, that, you know, like, think about,

here's the example I'll give, actually.

And I don't know how skilled he is.

I don't know how I would compare him to other people,

but, but I know he has brought up a lot,

Michelangelo Badiot, two handed tapping

with two necks, right?

He do, he do more hands if he has a skill thing, right?

Yeah, does he, I've never heard of Michael.

I, I only know him as a side show.

I don't, is he, is he the most skilled?

Is he one of the most skilled?

I don't know man.

I don't actually know.

How do you even measure most skilled?

Notes per minute, like all of those notes

per minute people, I know.

When they're doing the notes per minute thing,

it's like, wow, you're doing a side show.

Can you turn your personal skill down a little

and make something listenable?

I wouldn't be surprised if you went to like a Tim Ensign

or a John Mayer or, or, you know,

any of these guys who are considered giants in guitar

and said, play the hardest thing that you think you can play.

If they played it, you'd be like, that was impressive,

but I don't think I ever want to hear it again.

Like, I think all of those guys are probably like,

dialing it back a little bit to make something

that more and more pieces of the population

will want to listen.

Here's the, here's the listenable side of that bell curve.

Everybody loves Van Halen.

Everybody, here's like, there's a Van Halen song

out there that everybody loves, right?

Like there's enough of them, there's party songs.

Woo, Van Halen, let's party.

And if Ed even Halen had wanted to,

he could have made his entire songs,

his entire albums, just him double hand tapping.

Just him, shredding it up.

And he's a very entertaining shredder.

Maybe you're gonna say the thing, though.

But because he was making songs with other musicians,

and because he was aiming towards making songs,

instead of making a guitar,

like shred album all the time.

Yeah, he did a rough,

and it's a big ol' solo, I know.

But he was making songs.

And a lot of times, he's like,

wow, when does the guitar happen in this song?

I'm so waiting for it to happen.

Oh, there it is, there it is.

Okay, now it happened, there was a,

like that's what people want to listen to.

They want to listen to songs.

Right, right.

They don't want to listen to a guitarist.

There's a whole, be the best guitarist ever for 40 minutes.

I remember when he was still alive,

hearing from people who would say that,

they would go to shows,

they would got the impression that,

that maybe Eddie had a couple of beers too many,

or whatever, as to choices.

But they would rip like 20-minute songs.

Right.

And people would just be like,

I would talk to people who are big, Vanny.

But that said, a show.

They are, hold on, let me make my,

all right, make it, make it, make it.

All right, thank you, believe it,

for it already.

They were Van Halen fans,

and what they realized is that they weren't Eddie Van Halen fans.

Ah.

Which is what you're saying,

like to support what you're saying is,

yeah, Eddie could write,

like could play 20-minute-long guitar solos,

and people on average didn't want to hear it.

Right, like when Van Halen fans fight,

it's not eruption versus whatever guitar solo song.

It's Davy versus Sammy.

Yeah.

Like that's the fight amongst people,

the most people who listen to Van Halen,

that's the argument,

not which song has the best guitaring in it.

Like I'm sure that argument is in there down the road,

but I don't know, we've beat this one to death.

Here's one from Groan, but not up.

And we're gonna agree on this.

We're gonna agree on disagreeing with this.

I cut that backwards, and then I corrected it.

If you can't afford to invest in real estate,

invest in guitars,

smaller investment, pretty decent value appreciation.

What?

Which guitar, maybe a couple specific guitars?

But what?

No.

No, that's bad advice.

I mean, I think...

Steve is trying to find.

I'm trying to make an exception.

Yeah, you want to disagree with me.

I know that people, when Gibson does

these limited run things.

Listen, if I had a time machine,

Marty McFly style,

I would not be going back in time

to put it all on the gibbies instead of the cubbies.

I would be investing in stocks.

Sure.

Even the guitars that have appreciated the most,

pound for pound, penny for penny,

would not be good investments if you could...

If you could see the future,

compared to so many other things that you could do,

I would just buy land.

I know he's talking about real estate.

I'm talking about barren land.

So somebody, so speaking of Get Offset,

somebody made one of these post on threats.

And said like, if you could go back 20 years

and tell your younger self something, what would it be?

And get Emily's response.

And somebody got super pissed at her for her response

was by Bitcoin Play Guitar.

Yeah.

Because if you will go back,

even as much, it's lost half of its value

in the last two months.

It's like 63K or something right now.

It's been fun to watch.

Sorry, sorry Bitcoin millionaires.

If you would have bought losing your shirt.

If you would have bought a hundred dollars worth of Bitcoin

in like 2010 or whatever,

you'd still have whatever $63, $6.3 million.

No, I remember reading the early articles about it

and people were like,

up is someone figured out how to buy a pizza

in San Francisco with Bitcoin.

And I looked into it and I was like,

well, maybe I'll buy a couple hundred bucks of this,

just for the fun of it.

And I was looking into it and was like,

oh, there's a whole wallet thing.

I don't understand how this works.

And I just gave up.

But if I could go back in time,

I would really pressure myself to,

yeah, I probably only had three grand in my name.

At that point,

I would have pressured myself to throw it all in there.

If you, yeah, if you bought three grand worth of Bitcoin

and, you know, 2010 or whatever,

that would be $3,000 times $63,000.

Is that 18 million?

Yeah, investment talk.

I have made money off of Bitcoin

because I do a little bit of like just fun trading for fun.

Like my, if I lost it all,

there's not a single tier would be shed.

Um, I've made money on Bitcoin

because I see when it dips and then I buy it

and then I wait till it spikes and like,

ah, there's no frickin' way.

And I usually pull out a little early,

but I still make money every time.

Right.

You know, like it's easy to make money on stuff

that does that that goes up and then goes down.

It'll go down every single time it goes up

and it goes down dramatically every single time it goes up.

So it's, I don't know, maybe someday it'll happen

and it'll plateau forever, but I doubt it.

I bought my, that's the gift, right?

I bought my Les Paul Studio light.

I don't, did I buy that before the show started?

I don't remember.

I had so many guitars and I wouldn't say

that any of them have a crude value.

Yeah, I bought that one for $5.50 whenever it was I bought it.

Those are like $1,500.

So the value's tripled,

but over like at least a decade it's tripled,

which is both a lot,

but it's like such an insecure asset

and there's only one of them in the initial buy-ins $5.50.

So I don't, I don't really know if that's worth it.

It's one of those things where the space

that it takes up costs more than you realize, right?

You know, like the rest of the hobby surrounding it

costs more than you realize.

Even if a guitar you bought the magic one

and it doubles in value by the time that you sell it,

that's incredibly strange.

It's incredibly strange.

And an investment in a musical instrument

is an investment in your enjoyment of it

or in the practical application of it.

I will say though that a big part

of what makes the guitar hobby and industry fun

and more casual than it could be

is that the resale is pretty stable on guitars.

Like everything loses value once you shred it off the lot,

but a lot of guitars once they enter the used market,

they're kind of the same value

unless they become damaged.

Like they just kind of hold the same value all the time.

Here's where maybe this makes sense.

Says if you can't afford to invest in real estate

and investing guitar or smaller investment

in pretty decent value appreciation,

if you are looking at it from the perspective of

I live in a place where a fixer-upper is,

you're gonna get specific about the real estate

is 100K.

I don't have 100K, I do have investment.

This is gonna age real bad

when the housing market crashes all the way down.

Buy guitars, they're better than houses.

No, so well, if the housing market crashes

or the guitar market's gonna crash too.

Yeah, because you gotta,

where are you gonna store your guitars in your houses?

So whatever like the fixer-upper prices where you live,

if you only have 10% of that,

I would still make the argument like,

let's go put it on VTI or something,

like do an index fund.

But if you don't wanna do it,

cause you need that tangible thing

and you only have say 10% of whatever

that investment number is,

then yeah, you could probably do worse than guitars

because at that point you are getting into a space of like,

if 10 years ago I started buying 1978 Stratocasters,

though all of those have doubled in price in the last 10 years.

Like vintage guitars that are mainstream,

so Stratocaster, Telecaster, Les Paul,

SG, a little bit, 335s.

You know, all of the late 70s, early 80s stuff

is starting to ramp up.

So there's some like maybe fun to be out there.

It's, I'd say it's lower risk.

You gotta hold on to a guitar for 50 years.

Well, that's the flip side of it.

But that's what I'm saying.

It's like if you're already buying something,

it definitely seems like there's a cusp.

If you're playing your guitar,

you're spending more in refrets and strings.

But you're not playing these maintenance.

If you bought a Les Paul in the 50s,

you've been playing it the past 50 years.

Well, we're not talking about buying a,

we're talking about buying an already vintage instrument.

Okay, all right, all right.

You swear, this guy doesn't actually listen

to anything that I say.

I'm here to argue with you, Steve.

I started looking for places to jam my foot and do an argument.

I'm saying you're buying like a late 70s, early 80s vendor.

You're buying it now as an investment now.

Yeah, if you bought it in the 70s,

you've been playing it for a long time.

If I was gonna buy an investment, Gibson,

from the 80s, it would have been that murder in the Martian.

The victory, a lot of people did point out

that the headstock is broken on everything.

Every Gibson headstock is broken.

That's all you know, it's authentic.

But yeah, so I think that there's like a vintage run of things.

There are guitars that,

now the question is whether or not 80s and 90s guitars

will ever do this.

But at least through the 70s,

they're starting to pick up some speed.

Late 70s guitar wall.

Yeah, because none of your heroes played late 70s guitars.

They all played 60s guitars.

Right.

Another 50s guitar.

Is there a current guitar hero

that favors 70s, Gibson's and Fenders?

No, they're just finally old

and people have gotten over the three bolts.

They're just the vintage that people can afford

and that's going to artificially pump up the value.

It might be something where enough of the bad

Norland era Gibson's have been destroyed

that only the good ones are left.

I don't know.

Are you saying you should invest into guitars?

I'm just saying there's maybe a little bit of logic there.

Investing in a guitar lands in between investing in a vacation

where it's for your enjoyment

and investing in work tools

where you will use that work tool to make money.

That's the spectrum.

Are you buying it because you enjoy guitars

and you'll enjoy it or are you buying it

because it's going to be a work tool?

And the investment is that you're going to get a return

from your labor using it as a tool.

Like everything else is so incredibly speculative

and the ones that do feel like a sure thing,

they aren't.

You don't know which guitars are going to accrue value.

You don't know which guitars.

Most of them are just going to end up pawn shop

and teaks in 50 years.

Like most of the guitars, all the sectors,

maybe a couple of sectors will be collectibles.

But like a 90s shifter in the year, like 2040,

is going to be a Craigslist guitar

that goes for the equivalent of 450 bucks now.

You know, like it's going to be a curiosity.

Like, oh, that's old.

But I mean, I'm going to be so wrong.

Check back in and 26 years.

You know, 80s shifters though,

or 16 years, whatever.

80s shifters could be an interesting investment.

Before the, when they were a parts thing,

that is an interesting investment.

When they were, when they were a parts supplier,

then maybe, like there's very few sure things

as far as guitars go as investments though.

All right, let's talk about Patronsons.

I want to do this last one.

We started late.

That clock is wrong.

Last hot take.

All right.

From Shadow Song on Discord.

Okay.

Strats don't need homebuckers.

Nothing needs a homebucker.

I've heard said recently.

Some people might think this is a hot take.

Well, you didn't let me finish my point,

but I'll let you finish your point.

Go ahead.

Homebuckers are good to have.

And I tend to favor fat strats.

Because you still get plenty of single coil action

from the neck and the middle on a strap.

And let's be honest, the neck is the most pleasant

single coil pickup on a strap anyways.

And the middle is criminally underrated.

That's where the money lives on a strap is in the middle.

The bridge, a single coil bridge on a strap

is a lot of fun.

Most people don't know what to do with it.

A fat strap is probably across the board.

The definition of an electric guitar

and will be for the next 3,000 years.

All right.

What's your point?

The addendum I was going to make to this

as far as I know, Shadow Song is not this person.

Ret Shul is also a middle pickup fan.

And I believe it was Ret Shul who just straight up said,

HSS strats aren't strats.

They're S style guitars, but they are no longer,

they are no longer stratic asters.

That's the real hot take.

That's ludicrous.

That's not that strats don't need homebuckers.

It's that strats with homebuckers are no longer strats.

That's the real hot take.

See Ryan, a real hot take makes you want to like just vomit

in your mouth a little like you.

That's not a hot take is a wrong take.

That's what is he going to call it then?

He's not going to call it a stratic aster.

Something else.

What is he going to call it?

I don't know.

If he doesn't have a name port, then he's wrong.

Right.

If he doesn't have a name port, if it's not a stratic aster,

what are you calling it when you point at it

and you have to describe the full thing

for people to understand it.

Like you have to paint a metaphor.

It's now it's just a stratus.

Darmak and Jalod with a wall spell.

Stratocaster style guitar.

But it's not a stratocaster.

I totally just misquoted track right now.

Darmak and Jalod.

Darmak.

Yeah, it's an agra when the walls fell.

His arms wide open.

Is that how we have to describe guitars?

Like people do the same thing with jaguars.

Oh, it doesn't have the top rhythm circuit.

It's not a jaguar.

Oh, it doesn't have the rhythm circuit.

It's not a jazz master.

Then what is it?

What are you calling it?

It clearly is the model of a jaguar.

It clearly is the model of a jazz master.

Even though it's got humbuckers and a strat trim on it,

clearly it's a telecaster.

We can all see what it is.

It's printed on the headstock.

Like, oh, so when you change a Les Paul

from having P90s to humbuckers,

is it not a Les Paul anymore?

Depends on the year.

You're telling me that you think that if you

take a Les Paul and you put humbuckers on it,

and depending on the year, it will cease to be a Les Paul.

What is it after it's cease to be a Les Paul?

It's just a single electric guitar.

There's no name for it.

Has no name.

There's no short hand for it

that anyone would possibly understand.

It's indistinguishable from a telecaster.

I'm trying to explain this guitar to you,

but the problem is it's a straticaster

with a humbucker in the bridge.

So there's no way to describe it.

You've just described it as a straticaster

with a humbucker.

But it is not a straticaster.

So that's incorrect.

Not a straticaster.

It's a straticaster with a humbucker in the bridge.

Says Rhett.

It might have been Zach.

It could have been Addison.

I don't know.

It was one of them.

I don't want to get Rhett credit for anything he didn't do.

Is there, is there, do you think?

What does that even mean?

Do you think the core shapes, like whoever does the shape first

or makes the shape famous?

Is that the namesake?

If Finder wants to put out, not if Ford wants to put out

a Mustang bicycle, it's a fleeping Mustang.

That's a hot tank.

That's a hot tank.

If Ford starts making motorcycles

and they call it a Mustang, now a Mustang,

that's a Mustang.

That's a Mustang.

You're a big mock e-fan over here.

I'm not a fan of cars.

I despise cars.

I only have them because I need them.

I don't despise them, but it's like,

you just need to move to a walkable city.

I'm not a car guy.

I live in a walkable house.

I don't need to go anywhere.

I would love it if the town that I lived in was more walkable,

though, that would be nice.

I think it would walk to get a snack.

Maybe meet up with some neighbors at a local tavern

or something like that.

That'd be pretty nice.

It's some public transportation at least to give me there.

If you'd enjoy...

Hey San Diego, get on it.

If you've, it's too late, I know.

If you've enjoyed these hot tanks,

you can add on order to patreon.com slash 60 cycle humcats.

For as little as $3 a month,

there is much as more money than that.

You can support the making of this program,

like this person has at the $20, $5 level.

We've got cra-

Oh, we've got craigs fist.

That's his name craigs fist.

Holy moly.

I've never been so intimidated in my entire life.

Thanks craigs fist.

He's like intimidating me with money.

This episode sprouts you all by a lew it.

We're using these lew it ray or a microphone.

Yeah.

They've got a mute button.

I think they sound great.

So this is the way most like podgasters...

So the few things.

They get close and they kind of like get that vocal fry in there.

We're yellers, Stephen, I are loud.

So you don't get to hear us performing our very best,

the way these microphones deserve.

We like to sit back here and yell at each other.

The funny thing about when we did the mute test

I was like two or three episodes ago,

I muted my microphone and then I coughed super loud.

It got in my mind.

It got super clean on yours.

Right.

That was funny.

We're doing a giveaway with lew it.

We're giving away one of these bad boys,

the lew it connect to, bad boy or bad girl.

We don't know.

Bad thing.

What you're gonna do.

When you lew it connects to...

Oh, oh, oh, oh, that felt pretty good.

And not only are we giving away one of these to one winner,

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A microphone.

This is an MTP 440 DM.

It could either be one of these

for putting on your guitar cab

or they just came out with a vocal mic,

which is a similar sort of form factor a year,

but it's for vocal mics.

It has a different grill on it.

It's for your voice.

It's what I'm saying to you.

What is that?

The MTP 5.

That's right.

You can win one person's gonna win one of these.

One person will win a microphone winner.

And the microphone winner gets to pick.

You get to pick which one you want, right?

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You got the, you got to put those soft touch strings

on that telecaster.

I sure did.

That is a very lightweight, easy to play set of strings.

You were playing with it earlier.

They do, they feel real fluttery, don't they?

Did you?

I almost thought you detuned it.

It felt so fluttery right now.

If I did, it wasn't on purpose.

If I did, it's because my bends are so beefy.

It is, it's hard for me to tell

because I usually put 10 and a halfs on my guitars

and these are nine and a halfs.

They feel lighter than nine and a halfs to me.

But they play very, they play very soft.

I was using this to warm up for a demo this past week

and it actually felt like cheating.

I was like, I can't use this guitar.

It's too good now.

The new pickups, the new strings,

it's too easy to play.

So you're saying that this should not be

somebody's first guitar?

You're saying somebody is starting on guitar,

they should not get soft touch strings.

It's going to make it too easy for them.

They get the hard, heavy strings that bend the neck.

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Ryan, you got anything else?

Nope.

Let's play a song.

Let's play a song and end the show.

The song is sent by Love's Finn Vlad.

If you use this on an episode, please say, imagine,

if you were very, very tiny and broke one of your legs

in a forest and an army of ants finds you lying helpless,

you can't communicate with them.

They pick you up and carry you through their underground tunnels.

Are they going to help you?

Are they preparing you as dinner?

Of course.

The thing I always wonder when that happens.

The song's called Multi-Vitaminner.

I found it at the end, but the beat was...

I found it in the keys, in that little envelope-filtered

organ-synthes sort of thing.

That was a lot of fun, love.

Yeah.

It tickled my brain in a, in a Matthew drummy sort of way.

I was like, where is the actual beat?

What is actually going on here?

It was a fun brain tickler.

Brain was tickled.

Yeah.

Steve said he wanted to try it with the other tickling thing.

I didn't say I wanted to try it.

All right.

Bye, everybody.

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