STUNNING: Miami Marlins SUFFER Painful Loss As Sandy Alcantara PULLED, Bender IMPLODES

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1:00Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team, every day. I'm Jamie Goldman, and I'm joined by Ethan Ive and welcome into another edition of the Lockdown Marlins Podcast. Lockdown is now the number one sports podcast network. On today's show, we will discuss how Yuri Perez can bounce back tonight after a rough start in the Bronx, plus take a look back at some of the questionable lineup decisions from last night's game, but we start today with last night's 9th inning debacle. Sandeal had it rolling through 8-8 shutout innings. He allows the double and the 9th follows it up with a walk. Clayton McCullough pulls him, Bender comes in, and the wheels fall off, two runs come across, and the 9th, four more come across, and the 10th, and the fish lose what looked like was going to be such a beautiful win, and the Marlins let one slip last night. Jamie, so many thoughts crossed my mind when I watched Clayton McCullough come out of

2:03the dugout to Yank Sandeal Contra from that game yesterday. First of all, he was trying to make some history. It's so rare to have someone throw back to back complete games, complete game shutouts rather as well. It hasn't happened in Major League Baseball in a decade. It hasn't happened for a Marlin in 20 years. As you'd have to go back to 2005 and don't throw Willis, I just feel bad for Sandeal, that he did not get the chance to finish what he started, and it ultimately blew up in Clayton McCullough's face in the 6-3 win in 10 innings that is among one of the ones that sing the most, I would say. There's plenty of them that come out to you every year. It's tough to swallow that pill on game 11 of the season. Yeah, this was definitely the most stinging loss of the season thus far. However, we disagree on this one because yes, Sandeal had an opportunity to make history, but I stand by what Clayton did in the 9th. Sandeal was already at 95 pitches.

3:04Sandeal allowed the lead off or double, and then he allowed a walk. I'm surprised he even got to see the walk. I thought he would have got pulled after the double. Sandeal gave him a chance to stay in the game, and then he walked the next batter. He looked kind of wild in that at that. Yes, he was setting up the force at first, second, and third. However, he walked the second guy, and I think Clayton just, at that point said, let's get this win. And the idea was let's get this win, but then he went to Bender, and of course Bender didn't look very sharp, two runs come across, and the Marlins let that one slip. There's a lot of things to consider here, Jamie. First of all, if Pete Fairbanks was here, he would have been called upon in that situation. He is on the paternity list at the moment, as he is welcoming his third child to the world. If he was in Miami, we would have definitely seen him in that spot, and not Anthony Bender. I would agree with you if it was anyone else not named Sandeal Contra. I would get it. In that instance, let's bring in a different look.

4:05Let's bring in another guy who was fresh in the 9th inning. You're up by two runs that's not enough to be comfortable. Let's lock this down. I think it's Sandeal Contra. There is a name value there. That is your ace. You have to stick to your guns in that moment for a guy that has put this team on his back early in the year. He also just set a new record for consecutive scoreless innings to begin a season for Miami Marlins pitcher. So you have to put that in your mind as well. The fact that that double, he allowed with one out in the 9th was the first extra base hit. He gave up all season, and it was a little dunker of a double down the left field line. For a guy like Sandeal, who is a ground ball pitcher, under just under 50% of a ground ball rate for his career, the odds of him rolling a double play ball against Sal Stewart, who he struck out in his previous at bat. He would have faced him next, you know, it's so tough to say. I think the odds are greater than not.

5:06It's tough to look back on that because if you're Clayton McCullough, it's double-edged sword. You go to Bender and it blows up in your face. You get a lot of crap thrown at you. You stick with Sandeal and it blows up in your face, same deal. You know, this is one of those things you have to swallow as a big league manager. He did that in front of the media last night. He knows that it just comes with the territory. But man, does it sting? Definitely, Stings. I think Tommy Hutton made a good point last night in the midst of his ninth inning heated tirade that he had on the broadcast last night. He was pretty fired up. When he said something and he said, if you're going to pull your starter, make sure the guy you have coming in is better than your starter currently. Or you're going to pull a guy, make sure the guy coming in is better than what you currently have out there. I think Clayton McCullough really did believe that in his heart. Last night that Bender gave them the best chance to win, Bender, there was two right handers coming up. He's 184 average, the righties have 184 average in their career against Bender.

6:07So he's had good numbers against righties in his career. On the flip side of this, Bender already had one blown save this season. I think he's been shaky in the closing role in his career. I think I saw somewhere, don't quote me on this, but I think I saw that he's 12 blown saves in 25 opportunities over his career. So he's had some troubles in the closing role during his career. So maybe Bender wasn't the best guy to go to, but then as you mentioned, Fairbanks is normally in that role, but Fairbanks currently on paternity leave. So there was a lot of moving pieces going on for Clayton McCullough at that point. But Sandy allowed a double and then he allowed a walk and there was nobody out. Yes, he's a ground ball pitcher, but it was one out. There was one out. There was one out. Okay. There was one out in the inning. But Sandy, it looked to me like the wheels were falling off and Clayton was just going

7:08out there trying to get a win, Bender, Bender's the one to blame in my opinion here. Clayton went to his guy who's been pitching solid against Rides historically and then his guy comes in and lets it slip. So many things happened after he was brought in too, right? You had the double steal because Bender can't hold anybody on. It was like a real quick, I'm going to cut you off, sorry. But it looked like he paid no attention to those runners whatsoever, which made me very concerned and upset. Continue, sorry. No, he didn't. And then you have the ground ball right in front of him. That's a tough play to make, obviously, shoveling home. He wasn't able to make that play. And then you have the wild pitch that Gus did not get his body in front of. And that was another Tommy, which I am entirely agreeing with. He needs to get his body in front of that baseball and prevent the game tying run from scoring when you have Ellie Taylor Cruz flying down the third baseline, trying to tie that game. That is something that cannot happen.

8:10And then all of a sudden it's a brand new ball game. I think that what we saw from Bender in New York, he gave up a two run double to Jazz Chisholm that made it a one run game when the Marlins were able to squeak out that series finale win on Sunday against the Yankees. I didn't have a lot of confidence going into this one with Bender on the Mount. I would have rather seen a guy like Tyler Phillips who for some reason they've made Tyler Phillips a middle relief option this year, kind of a low leverage guy. Remember when this guy was slapping himself silly, coming into games last year? Yeah. I miss that guy. I would have rather had that guy who obviously Tyler Phillips did pitch on Monday one and two third scoreless. So maybe he was unavailable. Okay. That's the case. I understand. But I would have rather have seen Tyler Phillips in a high leverage role this year. And maybe if this continues, obviously you have fair banks as your closure. But if Bender continues to struggle here, you know, across these next couple of weeks, maybe you see the attitude flip there and you start to see Tyler Phillips getting those

9:11opportunities late in games now. Before I toss it back to you, I wanted to jog your memory a little bit of what went down four years ago when Don Mattingley was the manager of the Marlins and the Marlins are in St. Louis. Do you remember this game when San Diego Contra was trying to muster through a complete game. It was a one run ball game for three Marlins. They had just taken the lead, a two run homer from Abby Garcia in the ninth. And there were a couple of runners on with one out. Abby goes out there to either Yank Sandy from the game in the ninth or leave him in. Sandy talks to him through his glove, argues his case, wins his case, and gets the next batter to ground into a double play and end the ball game. Do you remember that, Jamie? I vaguely do remember something of like this happening, which I think is going to bring us to our next topic conversation here. So continue. Clayton McCulloch didn't even give Sandy El Contra with a chance to argue his case.

10:13In the after the eighth inning came to an end, he checked on him, Sandy told him screw off. I've got it covered. Clayton laughs it off and walks away. When he went to pull him, he went straight to his arm. He didn't even have a conversation with the man. This is your ace. You stick by him. Period. End of story. I think that's a great point you just made. And I was going to touch on this as well. That's the only thing that's the only gripe. I have with Clayton in the ninth last night. The fact that he immediately walked out and pointed to his ball pen, he didn't even give Sandy the chance to like you said, please his case and give Clayton, hey, I can do this. I can stay in this game. Clayton, you know, he had other plans and he's an analytical guy. We've seen this in his history and he's sticking to it. He's sticking to the numbers and you know, sometimes you got to make that feel, feel decision. And he didn't do that last night.

11:15Don Maddingly, different kind of philosophy. He went out there and talked to him. And Sandy was upset about this last night. In the post game comments, he mentioned that. You said something along the lines of I, I, I deserve to be asked how I felt before I got pulled. And I think Sandy has a reasonable gripe with that. And this is something that they're going to have to hammer down because they can't have this continue where there's a little bit of a disconnect between your ace starting picture and your manager. So it happened last night, but hopefully they can nip it in the bud because this is not something that can continue as a season continues with your ace and manager not being aligned. Danielle Contra is all class. He was all class in the post game press conference yesterday. He talked about only controlling what he can control. He can't control the decision that his manager makes. He can only control the effort that he puts out there, the process that he has. So that was good to see him kind of.

12:15He still has his wits about him after a frustrating end to that ballgame like that. But with that said, Jamie, I think we're ready to rock. Yeah. I mean, that one's things. That one's things last night and coming up, we'll get into some of the mischances they had on the offensive side of the ball. There was multiple opportunities for the Marlins to give Sandy and the pitching staff more insurance in that game. There was missed opportunities left. There was missed opportunities right. We saw it all night long. And this is a theme that we've kind of continued from the Yankee series. So we'll get into all of that coming up right after this. Hey, this is Jeff Carr from Lockdown Reds. And when it comes to our futures, we all have great ideas when it comes to our job, when it comes to our house, when it comes to our vehicles, all that great stuff. But honestly, when it comes to securing that future, I don't know what I don't know. And when me and my wife set down to figure out the life insurance thing, ethos made everything simple.

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14:19Tap the link in the show notes and use code finally to claim your free month. Now, ETHOS, we need to get into. We just touched on the whole debacle that happened in the ninth inning with Sandy and Clayton and Bender and that whole disappointment, we could call it, and now we got to get into some of the offensive disappointment from last night's game because there were multiple opportunities in this game for the fish to get a win and there were also some questionable line of decisions that we kind of touched on earlier in the week that we're still seeing here so far this season. So I'll throw it to you, Mr. I have where do we want to start? Look, there is a common trend we've seen from the Marlins, not just from across these first 11 games, but also last year they love to play the matchups. They love to go by the analytics and there is a certain credence to that. There is also a feel that comes with that. Having Owen Casey, Liam Hicks, Griffin Cohnine, and Graham Pauli, who are all left-handed

15:21hitters, all on the bench against the left-handed pitcher, that's playing the matchups, but is it the wisest thing of all time when you have a guy like Casey who was sitting the snot out of the ball across the first several games of this year against Cohnine who actually hits lefties better in his career? And here we are in the year of our Lord, 2026 with Austin Slater leading off for the Marlins who was brought in to hit left-handed pitching and he's two for 18 against left-handed pitching this year. Why is he leading off still and why is Leo Jimenez de-aging? I know I just threw a lot at you, but these are the things that are in my mind right now and this is all the stuff that's boiling over frustration-wise across the fan base. Yeah, where we want to start, I'm going to start with the Slater thing. I understand the idea, he hits 265 in his career against lefties, so the idea is he's going to come in, he's going to ease some of the tension of all the left-handed hitters we have in this lineup and he's going to start against lefties and he's going to be

16:22good. Well, he hasn't been good, bottom line, he hasn't been good, he's two for 18 against left-handed hitting this season, he's made some good plays in the outfield, but not enough to keep him at the top of your lineup against lefties, especially with how many lefties we've seen so far this season and time and time again Clayton continues to throw him out there and he continues to struggle. When you have a guy on your bench who is historically in his career hit very well against left-handed hitters, you mentioned, you kind of just touched on it a little bit, Griffin Konain in his career bats 304 against left-handed hitting in 30 games, so not the biggest sample size but not nothing, it's not like it's two games, 30 games against left-handed hitters, he's hitting above 300 batting average, that's at the very least something to look at, something to look towards when the guy that you've been consistently trotting out there has been struggling and even more than struggling, he's your lead off guy, he's setting the tone for the lineup and he's setting the tone with 0 for 3, 2 strikeouts in a ball game, that

17:28just sets a poor tone for your entire lineup. We say good-hitting is contagious, bad-hitting is contagious as well and we've seen that in the last couple of nights from the Marlins. Yes indeed and it's not just the fact that these guys aren't starting against lefties, it's the fact that late in ball games for some reason McCullough is still relying on Connor Norby and Eriberto Hernandez who respectively had have had some tough starts offensively this year, he's still trusting those guys against right-handed pitchers, which that doesn't make sense to me either, like Griffin, Conan, and Liam, Hicks, they both pinch it yesterday, Hicks in the sixth and then came on with the bases loaded, that was a great opportunity, he struck out to end that, that's tough for him, Griffin walked late in the ball game as well, but sticking with Norby and Eriberto who, like I get it, they had their moments but they had three at bats against right-handed hitters from the eighth inning onwards and Owen Casey and Graham Paulie did not have an opportunity to swing the bat in those

18:30moments, and I get it from a positional standpoint, but I want to see Owen Casey freed from this platoon prison that he's in, he doesn't belong there, free my boy, big red, because this is a guy that's been exciting, he deserves to play every day, we can have the conversation when Star Wars comes back of how you want to play this, because at that point Leo Jimenez is out of here, that man has no business, being the designated hitter for the Marlins, he's hitting 222, and you brought him in to play some middle infield defense as a backup, I'd rather have Davis and Deilo Santos come up from AAA and hit as the DH, and more to the point when Griffin Coneyne has decent numbers against lefty, why can't he DH as well? I don't understand that, I just, there's so many little things that stand out to me about the way Clayton McCullough goes about managing this team and the decisions that get made, I hope I get proven wrong, one of these days soon, I hope we all collectively get proven

19:33wrong. Well, it's going to be a little bit before we get to see whether we're proven wrong or not, because I took a look at the schedule and the next lefty that the Marlins face will be Tarek Scubal from the white, excuse me, the white socks, the tigers who the fish have up next, but before we move on, I want to take a look at some of the missed chances that the fish had last night, because there were a few of them that could have given the fish some insurance and maybe allowed Sandy's night to go a little bit smoother and that ninth inning to be something that we're not even talking about right here on a Wednesday. So in the sixth inning, you get bases loaded with only one out and you get blessed in that inning. Aireberto stole second, he got caught stealing, but the fish got blessed with a questionable base runner interference call, whatever we don't have to touch on that one too much. This is loaded bottom of the sixth, you need to get a run across. You need to score a run in situations like that. They fail to, you had X, ground into a field, there's choice, and the runner was thrown

20:36out at home, so that's out number two, and then you had Liam Hicks come in, pinch hit and cold off the bench. As you mentioned, could have been different if you started the ball game, comes in cold, he strikes out at the bottom of the sixth, you don't get anything there, and then you go to the ninth, and after that hold the buckle in the top of the ninth where you're blue, the two nothing lead, you have a chance to nip that in the bud right there on the bottom of the ninth, you get Sonoha on with a walk, and then Konain walks, and then a double steal puts them at second and third with less than two outs, Augustin Ramirez strikes out, Marcy flies out, and you head to the tenth once again, failing to capitalize on opportunities. It's the little things that the Marlins keep harping on. They say you got to be good within the margins, and that's where they've struggled this season. They struggled against the Yankees in that Saturday game, they struggled on Sunday against the Yankees as well, they ended up pulling it out, and now we're seeing it in the red series as well. It's just so disappointing, because yes, the Marlins are still above 500 and have had

21:39a decent start to the season, but they could be one of the best teams in baseball right now, if they could just clean it up a little bit. We didn't even talk about what we saw on Monday, Janssen Chunk pitched into the eighth inning in a game that was what? One nothing? That's back-to-back days where you're wasting an unbelievable effort from your starting pitching, and by the way, we didn't touch on this in the first segment we were talking about pitching. Calvin Foshet looked awful yesterday. I mean, he had the wild pitch within the first batter when he came in, he gave up the cement mixer double that played the two runs, he just, at that point it was like, okay, we're setting ourselves up for a disaster here, so hopefully Fosh can bounce back. But more to your point, these are the moments that you have to seize. Good teams don't let these kinds of opportunities fall by the wayside, Jamie. Yeah, so still a work in progress on the offensive side of things. We will see the return of Liam Hicks and Owen Casey, and all the left-handers come back

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24:44The Marlins look to salvage the series with two more against the reds tonight on Wednesday and then tomorrow afternoon the getaway game on Thursday, Yuri Perez back on the mound for the Marlins tonight. He had a rough start in the Bronx about a week ago for earned runs. He also allowed four, excuse me, six walks and only four innings of work against the yanks that rode crowd might have gotten to him a little bit. But he has a chance to bounce back tonight, back at home, back in the depot, at the crib, so what are we looking for tonight from Yuri Perez? With Yuri, he is command, you mentioned it, the six walks, that really was what snuffed him out of New York last week against the Yankees. It's a tough spot to be and when you're going to the Bronx and it's the home opener, you've got that crowd there, that's tough to work with for him. But he really does like pitching at Lone Depot Park, hitter is hit 183 against him at the depot and it's a little bit more than that 220 when he's on the road, so he really does

25:45like the friendly confines of Miami and the fastball command for him last time out was really shaky. That's not something you typically see from Yuri Perez, so I'm hopeful that now that he's back home, he's got his team behind him, he watched his ace go out there and dominate yesterday despite the loss that he can go out there and do something similar today against a red team that he's done well against in his career, one in one record in three games. He actually made his debut against the reds back three years ago, so this is a team he does have some recent history against. Yeah, and this is a red team that has struggled this season on the offensive side. They entered this series with only a two 10 batting average as a team. That's one of the worst and major league baseball and under 300 for on base percentage as the season has well. So this is a team that struggled offensively. We saw that case end point last night, Sandy Cruz through the first eight innings. The reds offense wasn't really able to get anything going in that ballgame. So hopefully we see a lot of the same there tonight and the Marlins offensive side of things

26:47can kind of get things going, take the weight off of Yuri's shoulders tonight. One thing I wanted to touch on. Let's go. These guarantee has cashed this season Jacob Marcy finally his best performance of the season last night. I feel very safe saying that he went three for four last night also tied a Marlins franchise record with four stolen bases in that game, and he got it started with the butt single. So sometimes that's all you need to kind of get out of a slump you lay one down you get one it ugly you get an ugly base hit a 31 you get a punch single and that got him going last night. He ended up with three hits in the ballgame and a really good night from Jacob Marcy. He was showing off the wheels. They were on full display last night. So I'm feeling really good about it. I was offered two out of the gates with Augustine Ramirez, who's playing better by the way also from the bat. So him and Jacob Marcy think starting to turn up there a little bit, hopefully seeing a little bit more of the same here in these final two games against the reds.

27:49Yeah, absolutely. It was great to see Marcy put together some good at bass yesterday his first multi hit game of the season. He had been pressing. I think we could kind of tell that that was getting into his head a little bit. But like you said, just drop a bunch down a lock and happen once you get that first one out the way and it definitely worked that way for him. He's been hitting the cover off the ball. He's just been getting a little bit unlucky. He's based it later, 109 miles an hour off the bat was his hardest hit ball of the year so far. And while we can debate Augustine's defense, all we want the bat is starting to come around a little bit for him as well. He had definitely been struggling to start the year. He had that triple on Monday. That was a few inches from being a home run and he did double in yesterday's game as well. Those are a couple of good things that we saw yesterday and today they're facing Brady Singer and Jamie and I are both former Florida Gator students, both graduated a year ago. So cool to see Brady Singer go opposite Yuri Perez singer was a Gator and Xavier Edwards

28:51has had some success against him in his career, three for six in his career against Miami. Singer has done well, y'all ready of two and a half in just over 18 innings and we touched on this in the previous segment, Jamie. We get to see all of those left handers that have been locked up on the on the bench the last couple of days thrown back in. Konain will be in there, Hicks will be in there, hopefully KC and Grand Polly as well. I look forward to seeing what those guys can do out there today against Brady Singer. Yeah, no, this is exciting, you know, after seeing a couple of lefties and really struggling against those lefties, we've touched, we've beaten the hell out of that one so far here today. So I'll kind of leave that one alone, but it'll be good to see Liam Hicks back into the lineup. Hopefully he can kind of reignite what he had going to start the season. Seeing things true for Owen Casey, Grand Polly came through with some big moments as well, so far already this season. So I'm really excited to see them back in the starting lineup here today and then most likely tomorrow as well.

29:51Yuri Perez back on the hill for the fish tonight as well, Yuri looking to bounce back. Yeah, he had a rough start in the Bronx, but the Marlins have been good at home this season. After five and one before this red series at home, they dropped the first two of the red series. You got to take care of home field and something we kind of touched on on Monday. These are the games that you need to win. You know, you're going to look back in August, September. Hopefully you'll look back. You'll still be fighting for a playoff spot at that time of the year and you're going to look back at this red series and even the Yankees series, the one you dropped on Saturday and say, man, that Sandy Al Contra gem that he gave us back in April. We really needed to win that game, you know, we're sitting two and a half, half games out right now. We could be one and a half games out if we just won that game. So they get another opportunity tonight with Yuri Perez on the mound and the fish and the reds back at it tonight final thoughts, Ethan, I will leave it at this Jamie.

30:53You can't worry about September if you don't take care of April. Well said, Ethan, that's how we will end today's show. So I want to thank everyone for tuning in to Lockdown, Marlins. Today we'll be back with you tomorrow to give you all the news and analysis from tonight's match up between the fish and the reds. Hopefully a good start from Yuri Perez. So make sure you subscribe and follow Lockdown, Marlins. So you get all of the latest episodes. You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Golden 66. I've been tweeting about the Marlins more than I ever have in my life. So check me out there. You can check out my partner on IPXP. That's I play by play IPXP on pretty much all platforms. You can find him. And if you never miss an episode, the every day or club is built for you. Get Lockdown, Marlins. Add free plus members, only Discord, Discord access and more. Head to lockdownmarlins.supercast.com to join the club.

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