Skip to content
TrackPodcasts
historyMar 17, 202611:21

Stephen Priest and the Analytic-Continental Divide

pplpod

About this episode

Stephen Priest and the Analytic-Continental Divide

Interactive timestamps

Jump to segment

Get every episode summarized

Each time pplpod publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.

Email me new episodes

Free for 3 shows. No card needed.

Transcript ready

249 searchable segments. Every word is indexed and playable.

Stephen Priest and the Analytic-Continental Divide

pplpod

0:00
11:21

Full transcript

pplpodStephen Priest and the Analytic-Continental Divide. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

0:00You're listening to a podcast right now, driving, working out, walking the dog. If you're in a podcast, chances are you have something to say too. With RSS.com, starting your own podcast is free and easy. Upload an episode and we distribute it to Apple podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music and more. Track your listeners, see where they're from, and start earning from ads just like this. If you've been thinking about starting a podcast, this is your sign. Start your new podcast for free today at RSS.com. Welcome in everyone. We are so glad you're joining us for this custom Taylor Dupdive today. Absolutely. Thanks for being here. Today we have a really incredible mission. We're pulling from this incredibly fascinating wiki-tudia article all about the British philosopher Stephen Priest. He was born August 22nd, 1954, which makes him 71 years old today. Happy birthday to him. Or a well-happy birthday year, I guess. Exactly. But our mission for this deep dive is to explore the life and work of a thinker whose entire

1:01career is pretty much defined by completely ignoring rigid intellectual boundaries. He really did. It's crucial to look at a story, not just at some standard academic timeline of degrees and jobs. It's really a blueprint for how to navigate a world that is just full of divided opinions. I live in these hyper-specialized, isolated echo chambers today. Oh, totally. Everything is siloed. Exactly. And Priest offers this masterclass in how to connect concepts that most people, even experts just assume are totally separate and incompatible. Okay. Let's unpack this. Because if you look at how his mind was formed chronologically, it actually makes perfect sense that he didn't respect those academic borders. He definitely took the scenic route. He did. He didn't start out as some philosophical prodigy, you know, locked in a dusty library reading Conte today, 18. No, not at all. His early path was surprisingly varied. He spent his early 20s getting his hands dirty in the real world. Like his first degree in 1976 from Lancaster University, it wasn't even in pure philosophy.

2:03Right. It was a BA in history, right? Yeah, history, but with French and archaeology mixed in. And then two years later, in 1978, he gets a postgraduate certificate in education, a PGCE. And that was in history with social sciences. Exactly. He's out there literally unerthing the past with archaeology and studying how societies work. Yeah, and getting that linguistic and cultural immersion with French. And he's even operating in the bureaucratic real world. Because around 1977, he's actually working as an administrator for the Press and Information Department at the Council of Europe, out in Strasbourg, which is wild for a future philosopher of mind. Right. He's watching modern European politics happen in real time. He doesn't even get his BA in philosophy from the University of Cambridge until 1980. And then his MA follows in 1984. Yeah. It's like priests spent his early 20s physically gathering the raw materials of human civilization, you know, history, archaeology, European politics before realizing he needed to go to Cambridge

3:05to forge the philosophical tools to actually understand what he'd gathered. What's fascinating here is how that broad, late-looming entry into pure philosophy likely protected him protected him from what well from becoming trapped in a single narrow academic echo chamber. When someone enters a highly theoretical field like philosophy too early, and they never leave that bubble, they risk just getting trapped in pure abstraction. Oh, like they only know the theory, but they don't know the real world. Exactly. But Chris arrived at Cambridge, insulated against that. His mind was already grounded. He had literally studied how societies rise and fall and that real world grounding really set the stage for what he did next, because he takes that worldly perspective and applies it to his most fairest academic achievement, which is merging two notoriously separated schools of thought. Yeah. The analytic and continental traditions. Right. So the source notes that he's best known for bringing the rigorous methods of analytic philosophy to complex continental thinkers.

4:05Right. Heavyweights like Hagel, Husserl, Sartre, and Merloponte. So let me push back on this for a second, because to you, the listener, or just to someone outside academia, combining analytic methods with continental thinkers just sounds like, I don't know, mixing two types of textbooks. Right. It sounds like an administrative task. Yeah. So why is this actually a monumental feat? Well, to really appreciate it, you have to understand the deep friction between these two approaches. They were basically rival factions for most of the 20th century. They hated each other. They really did. They refused to speak the same language. On one side, you have the analytic tradition, which is fierce in the English-speaking world. It's all about logic, clarity, philosophy of language, formal proofs, very math brain. Very math brain. They want to strip away all the poetic ambiguity and just figure out exactly what is logically true. And the other side. The continental tradition is rooted in Europe, Germany, France. This is your Hagels, your Sartres. They deal with massive, messy concepts, existential dread, human experience, the flow of history.

5:13They're the artists. Exactly. And the analytic guys looked at them and said, your work is vague and logically undisciplined. And the continental guys looked back and said, you're missing the forest of human experience because you're too busy doing math equations. So they're completely walled off from each other. But then priest acts as this intellectual translator. You see this bridge building in his editorial work, like he edited Hagel's critique of Kant in 1987. And then John Paul Sartre basic writings in 2001, he takes a thinker like Sartre, who writes about sweeping concepts like nothingness and forces analytic clarity onto him. He demands precision from the poets. Yes, beautifully put. He proves you can be rigorous without sacrificing the big mysteries of human existence. And his main interests span so widely because of this, that a physics, philosophy of mind, phenomenology, history, philosophy, philosophy of religion, he had a massive output. Yeah, having established himself as this master synthesizer, he actually applied these translated ideas to the mysteries of the human mind, the concept of the subject.

6:16Right. And he authored or edited 19 books, 19, 19, with heavy focuses on Kant, the post-Cantian Kant-Ninkel tradition and the philosophy of mind. That is a staggering amount of work. It is. Notable authored works include the British empiricists, which had editions in 1990 and 2007, theories of the mind in 1991, Merrill Pondy in 1998 and 2003, and the subject in question in 2000. He also co-edited a dictionary of philosophy with Antony Flew in 2002, right? He did. And what's amazing is his global footprint. He held fellowships and lectureships at Manchester, Bradford, Leeds, Salzburg, and Edinburgh. And visiting professorships in the US, Europe, and Asia. Yeah. And his work is translated into Japanese, Korean, Macedonian, Russian, and Spanish. So what does this all mean? Like, for you, the person listening right now, a book like the subject in question might sound dry, but it's clearly tapping into something huge. If we connect this to the bigger picture, a book like that resonates from Macedonia to Japan.

7:16Because the fundamental inquiry of who are you is universally human. Right. He isn't just writing for other academics. Those widespread translations prove he is tapping into questions that everyday people globally are desperate to answer. Exactly. The subject is the conscious self. The eye, experiencing the world. By analyzing the mind, he is giving us a framework to understand our own existence. It's like he took that analytic scalpel and trying to dissect consciousness itself. Which is the ultimate locked room mystery. Totally. But just when you think priest's career is neatly defined by the philosophy of mind, we hit this dramatic plot twist. Yes. The inevitable shift. Right. Because when you study the human mind deeply enough and you push the boundaries of consciousness, you inevitably brush up against the divine. You really do. In the 2000s, priests focus shifted dramatically to the relationship between philosophy and theology. A massive pivot for an analytic philosopher. And here's where it gets really interesting. He actually wrote a manuscript titled Philosophical Questions Theological Answers.

8:21And an entire symposium was held at Oxford in April 2008, just about this manuscript. Which is a huge deal. But yet, according to the source material, as of January 2020, it remarkably remains unpublished, even though talks on the subject are online. That is fascinating. Is it the ultimate perfectionist's dilemma? I mean, imagine writing something so profound that Oxford holds a symposium on it, but you keep it locked in a drawer for over a decade. This raises an important question regarding his intellectual courage, really, because keeping a manuscript unpublished doesn't mean he was hiding from the theological debate. Oh, not at all. Which brings us to the Sheldonian Theatre Showdown in October 2011. This is such a wild moment. Picture this. You've got this highly publicized debate on theology and atheism. You have the philosopher and Christian theologian William Lane Craig ready to go. But the famous evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins refused to debate him. Right. Dawkins outright refused, leaving this massive, intimidating empty chair on stage.

9:21And stepping into that crossfire as a stand-in is incredibly risky. Academic suicide for a lot of people. I want to be clear to you, listening. We are absolutely not taking sides on the political or religious views of Dawkins or Craig here. We are just reporting on the historical event. Exactly. The point is the courage it took to sit in that chair. Right. This was one of three speakers asked to bravely stand in for Dawkins. And he did it. The video is even immortalized on Craig's reasonable faith website. It proves priests is willing to jump into the most heated, high stakes intellectual arenas of our time. He doesn't just theorize about friction, he steps right into it. He really does. He thrives in those spaces where complex human realities intersect. Yeah, he ignores the walls. Which gives us this really cohesive picture of his journey from starting in history and archeology to bridging the transatlantic divide of philosophy, to mapping the human mind, and then stepping right into the crosshairs of these intense theology debates.

10:21It's an incredible non-linear life. But there's one final, beautiful biographical detail we have to reveal before we wrap up. Oh, this is my favorite part. Despite this extremely rigorous, logic-driven academic life, I mean, he was a senior research fellow at Black Forest Oxford and a member of the faculty of philosophy at the University of Oxford. Right. Very serious, very structured. Very. But he is married to the poet Carrie Priest. It's just so perfectly fitting. Isn't it? A lifelong bridge builder uniting philosophy and poetry in his own home. He's taking the raw human experience and applying philosophical rigor in his professional life and sharing his personal life with someone who turns that exact same experience into art. It proves logic and poetry aren't enemies. No, they're just different tools. Which brings me to a final, provocative thought for you to ponder. Priest spent his entire life successfully applying the tools of one discipline, like analytic philosophy, to the problems of another, like continental thought and theology.

11:22He borrowed tools from everywhere. Exactly. So look at your own life, look at your job, or maybe a problem you are currently stuck on. What is a completely foreign tool or perspective you could borrow from a totally different area of your life to finally crack that problem wide open? Sometimes the answer isn't digging deeper into your own field. It's looking over the fence. Yep. Ignore the borders. Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive. Keep borrowing those foreign tools and we'll catch you next time. You're listening to a podcast right now, driving, working out, walking the dog. If you're in a podcast, chances are you have something to say too. StarSS.com. Starting your own podcast is free and easy. Upload an episode and we distribute it to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music and more. Track your listeners, see where they're from, and start earning from ads just like this. If you've been thinking about starting a podcast, this is your sign. Start your new podcast for free today at rss.com.

More episodes

More from pplpod

View all episodes →