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Now, what happens when you put a group of people on a yacht

and reward them for breaking each other up?

Well, it gets messy really fast.

I watched Sophia Beverly from Love Overboard.

Season one is here on the podcast today.

She is spilling on really went on behind the scenes,

kind of the strategy, the relationships,

what wasn't shown and where everybody stands now.

But she has more of an interesting story

than just being on this show

and you're going to love hearing about it.

Please welcome Sophia Beverly to the show.

Okay, exciting.

Season one of a show is.

Season one of anything is always tricky,

but now you've got like Alex Cooper's name behind it.

It's Hulu.

Like, season one, I feel like people were already invested

before we even knew really what it was.

Love Overboard, which on paper is a dating show.

But you've said that your reason for doing it

had nothing to do with finding love.

Right.

So I have to ask, what was your real reason for saying yes?

There are so many reasons behind why I chose it

because let's be real in Canada.

You're not going to find love in two weeks.

Yeah.

Like, you're just not.

And if I'm lost, you'll find less.

Yeah.

Anybody that says you're going to find love in two weeks,

like they're lying.

Yeah.

So I did the show originally I was supposed to do love Island.

And that sounded more enticing.

So I'm like, oh, it's a much longer stand.

You have eight weeks.

Maybe I will find somebody on eight weeks.

Right.

Who knows?

But then the casting producer I talked to,

he said, no, I have a better show for you.

Let's do this new one called Love Overboarder.

At the time, I think it was overboard for love.

They were like going between names.

Yeah.

And they're like, it's only a month.

It's on this mega yacht in Malta.

And I thought, you know what?

This could be fun.

Because the time, this is T,

at the time, I was talking to somebody.

OK.

Because I didn't know if I was going to get the show or not.

Sure.

Like, I didn't know until three days before

we had to leave to go to Malta.

Three days?

Three days.

Everybody knew three days before.

So everyone's just like, oh,

should I get this?

I got to buy this.

I got to do it.

It was panic.

Oh, that's,

takes three business days for a revolver to come in.

So I had an Amazon Prime of everything.

I was at Target shopping.

Wow.

I know.

So I was talking to this guy

and things were getting a little more serious.

And I thought, OK, well,

maybe I shouldn't do love Island.

This is a much better idea.

And I wanted to still do a show

because I've done social media for so long

that I've built this weird male following

that I absolutely despise and hate.

And I thought, OK,

well, if I do the show,

I'll get more female followers.

And I'll have a much better community

around like what I'm posting.

Let's just, let's do it and see how it goes.

And I had a blast.

OK, I love that.

First of all,

thank you for just being honest.

Yeah, because like, come on.

You know, it's so fun.

There's a lot of people that believe in love first

side.

I'm not really one of those people,

but it's like, that's lust.

And you're even lust.

Yeah, absolutely.

We're in 2026.

A lot of us are not going on dating shows

for real love.

And I think it was like blast with me

that I said that when I went on the bachelor at 10 years ago.

It was more when I went on the bachelor.

I was also seeing a guy.

And like, that was such a no-no.

A lot of people are, though.

You're going to put your life on hold

because you might do a show.

And if I really thought that was my person,

I wouldn't have went on the bachelor.

You know, I would have been like,

OK, obviously this, you know, timing.

But to actually just acknowledge it's 2026,

I can, I've already, you've already built it online presence.

I'm going to change my community,

get more female followers and see what I can do with that.

It's so honest.

And I remember I had to do a TEDx talk.

And the guy asked me, so were you there for love?

And I was like, I kind of wanted to build a brand

and then love would be a bonus.

And people clapped.

They were like, go ahead.

He was like, and then I was like, oh, thank you for clapping.

Like, I'm used to people.

I thought people would boo me for being honest.

But I just think, you know, look at the world we live in.

Exactly.

And it's funny because I have like a 96% female following.

And then that, well, when I think about it,

after you're here, you say that I'm like, you're right.

Women can be so caddy and mean,

but also I would rather that than up to 96% men

just being weirdos.

Gross and, yeah.

How did you build this following?

Oh, horribly.

I, when I was young, like 19 years old,

I started dating a really popular guy,

social media names.

We will not name on this podcast,

but everybody knows.

I was about to say it.

I mean, we can't have you why.

It's not, it's not a secret.

Yeah, I dated the Dan guy.

Yes.

And his following is all men.

Right.

And so when I started dating him,

he was posting me.

And that's what I got all of these men

and all of this attention from men.

I'm like, this is not what I want.

Like, I could not be more of a, actually, I'm a mousandras.

I'm not even a feminist.

I'm a mousandras.

I love that.

I'm like, I could not be the opposite

of what my community is right now.

And do men see that?

And do they comment like, what is your,

sometimes men are like, yeah, go girl.

And then you have other men that are like, you're so stupid.

You built your whole career off like your tits and stuff.

Okay.

Cool.

You're the one sexualizing me.

Exactly.

Exactly.

I mean, that does make your experience on the show different

from a lot of other people is that you

have dated a high profile public figure situation.

Did that have you, because I feel like you walked in

with the following confidence and life experience.

So did that change how you move in a setting like,

absolutely.

And actually one of the guys on the show

went around telling everybody my dating history.

You're kidding.

David.

David, the one that had the girls in the plank

for like 45 minutes, he's the worst.

He's the worst.

Yeah.

He went around talking about it with all the guys,

all of the girls.

And it was when they pulled me aside.

And she goes, hey, just so you know,

David's going and telling everybody about your ex

and this and that.

Ew.

He seems like such an insecure little man,

like little, yeah, ew.

That's yeah, he was pissing me off from the get go.

Okay, we will get into that just for people listening.

I just feel like this isn't just dating on a yacht.

Let's like set the scene for what the show is

before we get into all of that.

So you've got the top side versus the downside.

The top side is like the luxurious living.

You've got like the most beautiful food spreads,

chefs catering.

Yeah.

Cleaning staff, which is the downstairs.

Get him everything.

It's like the best life.

Downside is like they're cooking your food.

They're serving you drinks.

They're cleaning.

They're sleeping in like terrible shit holes.

Yeah.

The shows about power dynamics.

People inside device to break up other couples

and the infamous getting planked.

So that was a crazy twist.

Having the bottom side know that they can like

manipulate the top and switch the power dynamics

by like getting what they want.

I was like, oh my gosh, if you strip away

the dating show label, what is this show?

Yeah.

It was very up in the air.

I mean, we didn't know about it until

after the first challenge,

the cheers are tossed challenge.

Yeah.

We had no idea what was going on.

That's crazy.

It wasn't until they pulled those four couples

and they said, okay, we're done with the challenge.

We go, what do you mean?

Like there's still eight people left.

And they're like, oh no, you guys are all going

to what we call the downside.

So this is like, what do you mean?

This is not in the contract.

No, not in the contract.

Not talked about at all.

We thought it was just a fun casual dating show

where you could hang on a yacht and make drama,

but this was a whole different aspect to it.

It was like a game show and a dating show,

like a challenge dating situation.

It was different.

The dating point almost comes last, I feel like,

because it was more about manipulation,

which is crazy.

But at what point did you realize

this show rewards manipulation

rather than connection when I was on the plank?

Yeah.

So you're like, here we are.

One end is saying, you're an alpha male.

I'm like, girl, what are you talking about?

Was that strategy on her part?

Oh, yeah, she didn't want to leave.

And I totally get it.

I guess so.

But when I saw everybody on the top

cheering on NN Andrew to get rid of me,

I'm like, this isn't make any sense.

NN Andrew don't even like each other.

Right.

Confused.

Yeah, that was confusing.

Yeah, I feel like people were performing

versions of themselves to survive.

I feel like that's like,

which is so interesting because how do you find love

when you're being performative and like,

just trying to get to the top when it,

I don't know, did you feel like people were losing

like their authenticity during the show?

Yeah, yeah, I do.

I do.

It was tough to see because everyone's like,

okay, well, let's plot to do this.

Let's plot to do that.

It was all plotting and a lot of people

did get hurt by it.

It sucks.

Yeah, because at the end of the day,

it is a TV show and there are challenges.

So how do you stay true to yourself

while part of the game is manipulation?

It was weird.

It was a very weird psycho experiment.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

So did a producer find you?

Because you were talking,

because from love,

they wanted you to be on love islands.

So that's how you go.

Yeah, a casting director reached out to me years ago.

And I never spotted because I was in a relationship

and then when I got out of the relationship,

I thought, all right, let's try.

Let's try this.

And it was Alex Cooper, part of like,

was she on the, she wasn't on the show.

But she, because she's,

she obviously was the brains and everything behind.

She's so brilliant.

Yeah, she is.

Everything she touches, I feel like.

Yeah, she just gets it.

Yeah.

And people, a lot of times,

I feel like people think,

oh, she's probably got a team.

Of course, she is a team.

Because she's brilliant.

Yeah.

And she knows what she's doing.

And I feel like she has a business brain.

And she's always like a few steps ahead of most people.

And I love that she is just, I don't know.

I just feel like she is all brains.

Yeah.

She's amazing.

Yeah, I agree.

Did you get to meet her at all?

No, it was a bummer.

Yeah, we didn't get to meet her.

Oh, that's too bad.

I know.

Well, Gabby, I freaking love Gabby.

Oh God, I love Gabby.

She is, she is the most unique human being.

I think I've ever come across,

especially for the bachelor franchise.

I feel like they really pick, say, for like cookie cutter.

And I just feel like, not, and that's not an insult

to all the other bachelor's because I know them in real life.

And they are not, they're anything but that.

Yeah. But Gabby to me, I'm like, she's such an anomaly.

And she's just so, I love when women from our world

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Because usually, you know, contracts and things

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And I loved watching her host.

And it was great.

Yeah, and she was, she just comical.

Yes.

And she's so witty and so witty.

And I loved her.

Everything she said, I just couldn't help it laugh.

It was amazing.

Yeah, she, her humor is incredible.

Yeah.

And then did she get to be hands on with you guys?

Like, did you get to actually spend some time with her?

Or was she pretty removed?

Because I know that world where it's like,

I hosted a show before.

And it's very much like, as much as I wanted to hang out

with everybody, you got to kind of keep it.

Yeah, I was tough.

We just kind of saw her during Plank Cermonies and Challenges.

That was it.

Yeah, yeah.

Where was she living?

Was she on one of the hotels?

Oh, yeah.

She would be like, brought in and out on a dinghy

or like a little boat every single day.

hilarious.

God, she's so funny.

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And I know that you probably had so many zooms

or interviews with producers before actually filming the show.

Now you said you were shocked when you knew

that people were going to the downside of the boat

and cleaning and all this stuff.

So what did you think?

Like how did the producers pitch it to you?

They really didn't say much.

Because I even said, you know, I have a lot of questions

and they go, well, we can only answer so much.

So like I'm sorry.

I'm like, okay, well, just the basic questions

are gonna go here.

It's this long.

It's a dating show.

So did the reality match what you were sold?

No.

Did it make it for better TV than what you thought?

Yeah, but then I think to myself,

there's no way you can do a season two

because now everyone knows what's gonna happen.

Well, then no, there can always be a season two

because then people can already start plotting.

Yeah.

But I think they're gonna have to figure out a way

in the beginning to give everybody the chance

to get a couple of that because that was tough.

Some people didn't have their name called.

That's another part of season one of anything

is they're still working out the kinks of what it could look like

and what it should look like.

And then you learn from season one,

what season two could look like.

So yeah, I guess maybe people won't know what it is going

because they might switch it up a bit.

Yeah, kind of like what's that show where you can't have sex?

Oh, temptation Islander says so.

No, no, no, it's too hot to handle.

Do you want to handle that?

So everyone, do they say it's a different show

when they get auditioned or that's a good question?

I have no idea.

Do you think it's a good idea for a dating show?

This love overboard?

I think it's a good idea.

I think that there should be a lot of tweaks made

of the show.

I think it should be longer.

I think there should be different aspects changed.

Like for example, day one, reskits or I guess day two,

technically reskits thrown overboard.

Yeah.

He didn't really have any time to talk to anybody else.

Yeah, I was like, oh, cutthroat.

He gone.

Yeah, and I loved rees.

I thought it was so great.

And look, I just talked to him that day

that Lexi went on the date.

And when I talked to him, I was like, wow, you are so cool

and so cute.

Well, I've seen your Instagram and we'll get into that.

Look at that.

We'll get into that later.

And that's, what did a day look like start to finish?

So like you wake up because filming days I know

for people can be like 17 hours sometimes.

And then there's like the big brother cameras and the rooms.

And it's like you're never off.

So what time are you waking up in the morning?

So it's very different.

Topside versus downside.

Topside wakes up whenever they feel like it.

No.

And they get served this beautiful breakfast downside.

We get knocks on the door at like the crack of dawn.

Wake up, wake up.

Time to eat breakfast, take your meds.

Tada.

Take your meds.

Here's here's the box of beds.

You know, like, that's amazing.

You know, it's like, yeah.

What kind of beds they feed you?

Well, whatever we had, you know that from our home.

Okay, that's like distributed.

Bringing boxes of beds, like I'm like sick.

I'll be on the bed.

You know when like your birth control.

Yeah, like that to give it to you and stuff.

Yeah, even like my sleep gummies, they took it

and they gave it to me at night.

So you're being told where to be and when in the top deck.

I always wonder with TV shows because sometimes I watch

and I go, did you really have to like cook and clean

and wake up early?

You didn't really have to cook and clean.

But the waking up early was a big part of it.

And then we just kind of sat there all day

in our uniforms, just yapping until it was like,

okay, let's do a challenge or hey,

why don't you go serve the top side some cocktails?

Wow.

And that was it.

That was our day to day.

And then we go to bed.

And was it like I saw all the plotting that was going on.

Like let's say we are going to be interested in people

on the top just to like get the two of us up there

when they're, which is genius.

I love watching the strategy, but at the same time,

I'm like, gosh, this is so I would be terrible on that show.

As was I.

Yes.

Well, it's hard to, yeah, it's hard when it's like I wouldn't,

like I said earlier, the love aspect of it

and the dating feels like it comes last,

but are the producers like encouraging certain decisions

and suggesting conversations and pulling you aside

or is it like really they let you?

They encourage that because you know it's like,

they talk to everybody.

So when they hear somebody say, oh, I only like Sofia,

they'll be like, hey, maybe you go talk to Andrew.

I heard you like, so you know, yeah,

because we don't have all the interactions that you want to have.

So they definitely like help encourage you

and like get you in the know of who likes to.

Yeah, which is nice.

What is something that about filming

that would shock viewers that they don't know?

There's cameras everywhere.

There's microphones in the bathroom, you know?

Like you're using the bathroom

and you're being recorded the whole time.

Oh my God.

You're sleeping and you're being recorded

the whole time you're sleeping.

Yeah.

You know anything and everything is being recorded

at all times.

And you have that mic on you 24, seven.

Yeah.

And if you don't have the mic on you in the bed,

there's microphones in your bed.

Right.

So there's no secrets at all.

Do you forget about them?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

And I remember there were times where when I got kicked off,

I was being brought back on the boat,

unlike this little boat,

and also the bunch of audio people from the show.

And they're like, you're Sofia, yeah.

And I'm like, yeah, he's like, oh, I'm so and so from audio.

I'm like, oh my God, you've heard everything.

I know.

But audio people have, they don't give a shit.

They don't give a shit.

They haven't heard it all.

Yeah.

Okay, I wanted, I do want to go back to you dating

before going on the show.

And so where, did you like cut it off with this guy

because you were going on or did you like,

were you like, I'll see you want to get back?

It was like, I'll see when I get back.

And this is the Dan guy that, no, oh, no.

I was like 19 when I met Dan.

We got up when I was 20 now.

I'm 29.

Oh, 29, okay.

Yeah.

So, do you love this age?

Well, I love it because you're about to turn 30

and the 30s are the best.

Are they?

Yeah, full.

Okay, good.

I'm 40 and I'm already like, I love 40s.

Oh, really?

It just gets better.

It just gets better and better, yeah.

It does.

A 29, you're like, still in your 20s,

it's like, I feel like you're still learning

in your 20s.

And when you're in your 30s,

you start to know better.

Yeah.

Okay, well, then I want to talk about this,

this, this, that I shall not be named.

But just like the specific lifestyle that you were with

when you were 19 to 21, you're with him.

Was he dating a bunch of different women or just you?

No, just me.

Okay, so it was very like party.

No parties.

What?

I know.

I know.

No parties.

No parties.

When I was with him, it was very chill.

I think he might have had one party.

How did this guy, who is he?

He's the poker player.

Okay.

A guy that was really famous on Instagram for a while.

Oh, now I know who we're talking about.

I didn't put the two to, I do the name.

I did my research, but then I'm like,

oh, the poker guy.

The poker guy.

No parties.

No party.

Oh, okay.

No, it was really, I'm telling you,

it was very, very chill when I was with them.

And then it wasn't until he started a certain business

that he moved to LA and then it became really

a lot more party.

And I wasn't involved in that.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

So I guess being in that environment,

I do feel like it probably gave you a different lens

coming into the show.

So maybe you've seen that level of attention, temptation,

ego.

Do you feel like you can clock BS faster than most people?

Oh my god, yeah.

How do you do it?

Oh my gosh, it's so easy.

I think the way they talk, what they talk about

is a big one, eye contacts a big one.

It's easy.

I think especially as a woman, it's a lot easier

to clock it.

Interesting.

Who did you clock right away on the show as BS?

Oh, David.

Yeah.

Oh, David immediately.

And then as soon as Andrew opened his mouth,

then I was like, okay, I know who you are.

I know exactly who you are.

Did anyone impress you?

Like was there someone that stood out?

Your face.

Ah.

Ah.

I was like, it's already been,

I was like, I'll be like.

Ah, and Bo was very sweet.

Yeah.

Okay.

And very down to earth seems sweet.

Yeah.

That's right.

But I was looking at your Instagram and there's lots of pictures of you and Reese.

Yes.

Let's just jump to that.

Well, jump everywhere.

I love to jump over in this podcast.

Yeah.

Okay, so what is going on?

Cause Reese was such a sweetie.

The sweetest.

Planked right away and didn't really get a chance, but you could tell he was seemed really genuine

He is so genuine and now you guys have been hanging out. What's going on? He's so sweet. I think Reese is great

And you know what they didn't show the first episode when he got planked. Yeah, he they only showed it like towards the end

He yelled when he got planked call me Sophia. Stop. Yes

Real magic. It was romantic. It goes romantic. I'm like, I don't have your number

Oh

That's so cute. Yeah, yeah, so I came back. Yeah because Reese is coming back the producer said hey, you know Reese is also coming back

I think you should also come back and I said okay. I mean it Reese is coming than short. Oh

Yeah, well, that's so sweet. Yeah, so what is it? What does your relationship look like now? What are you guys doing? We hang out? Yeah, we hang out

Yeah, no, he's he's wonderful. Yeah, we just we talk all the time we talk every day almost

We see each other a lot because he lives in St. Pete and I live in Miami, so it's like a four-hour drive cute

But yeah, we're just seeing where things go. Well, that's exciting when did so just like after filming

No, so after filming I ended up officially dating that guy that I was talking to okay

And I dated him for a year and then when we broke up I was like, hey Reese

How you doing?

He's still single. He's like yeah, I am so we've been hanging out. Oh, that's really sweet. Yeah

I feel like people are just noticing that you guys are hanging out a lot and obviously want clarity

But that's you're just hanging out. You see what happens. Yeah, obviously you're you have little crushes on each other

Yeah, it's sweet. Yeah, he's great. I have nothing but great things to say about Reese. How old is he? He'll be 28

So watching everything back is there anyone you wish you gave more time and attention to or like a real chance to

Bow, yeah, because bow and I we went we were up against each other in the cheers or toss

They didn't show it because I didn't cheers and he cheers

Oh, and I was like shit. I probably said a cheers to you

I didn't know because at the time I thought well if I don't cheers you I'll just try again explain the cheer scene to people for if they haven't

Less than you guys have to watch the show. It's so good and very entertaining

But they're very entertaining or like what is it called cheers or toss or toss? So Gabby calls up a name from the bowl

Of names and you go up against a guy and you're behind this wall

And if you're interested you'll cheers if you're not you'll toss your champagne

Yeah, and then whenever you'd cheers or toss they say okay step out from the wall and then one person's like this

Maybe somebody's like this and you're coupled up, but if you dunk then you don't couple up

What didn't you hear the other person dumped the champagne in the bucket? No, I know. I don't know. I I guess not

Yeah, it's a soundproof wall. Maybe it was. Yeah. Oh, okay

So and now on the flip side was there anyone you look back on now and think I should have trusted my gut sooner

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I feel like I trusted my gut as soon as I talked to all of them

Yeah, I feel like you did too. Yeah, did you feel like you had like a certain role on the yacht?

I felt like my role was to get rid of Andrew

And I was trying to help everybody out by doing that because nobody liked him

Well, you said that everyone David was going around telling everybody about your past

So did you feel like it made it harder for people to trust you and you to trust others? Yeah, yeah

I think people what's the problem with that because that was like 10 years ago. I know trust me

I know yeah, and it's still haunts me to this day

Which is another reason I think I decided to do this show because I was tired of having this man's name attached to mine

Sorry, yeah, no, no, no

But like that was something that I'm like this has got to stop has you reached out to say oh, we don't talk at all

It's been years and years. I guess yeah, that's fascinating

Yeah, but I mean you probably don't regret that time in your life

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Also want to talk about like female friendships on the show because do you feel like they did show your friendships accurately?

No, not at all. Okay, tell me more so many girls got so close on that boat and they didn't show any of it

Yeah, a shoday and I are best friends today and I go see her in New York

I can't wait to move to New York because I'm gonna see her all the time. Yeah, she's come to visit me in Miami

We have really no speaking points at all together in the show

So lila I love talking to her. I mean, they didn't show anybody's relationship friendship

I mean, I guess that's not what the show yeah, but there was just so many

Relationships friendships points in the show that they missed but I get it because it's what nine episodes

Yeah, yeah, and it's so much happens that you're like the female friendships aren't really the forefront of like the show

But that's too bad because I know there should I always want like spin-offs of like the behind-the-scenes of shows

So you can see what actually happened because we're the girls more supportive than we think they were to some people

Yeah, there's certain there's certain people. Yeah, who like are you the closest with now besides the two that you just said besides shoday and lila

Shoday so cute val lives in Miami. So I see her sometimes

Christine so sweet. I talked to her here and now. I feel like I I chat here and there with everybody except for maybe Lexi

Yeah, I don't really hear from her. So you don't hear from her. Yeah, she does anyone hear from her? I don't think so

Yeah

You mentioned the situation with Anna and Andrew what actually happened from your perspective with them

It all started with that one swimming challenge. Yeah, and Andrew told Anna do not choose me

I want to bring Sophia to the top side. Yeah, and and it's like screw you

I'm gonna stay on the top side and I thought okay

Well, you had the chance to go down there and then I could go up there because I haven't been up for this whole time

And I want to experience it and I want to like also get rid of Andrew and she said I'm staying up there

And I said okay, that's fine like I'll figure out another way then yeah

And then I had this idea of oh, I'll just go on a date with Andrew

He'll choose me because he's told everybody on the boat that he likes me

And he wants to bring me to the top deck and so we went on this date. It was horrendous

I wish they had shown more of it because it was so quick

It was very quick. That's another thing all the dates were just really quick. You like clearly did not want to kiss him

No, no none at all. I'm like telling their producers like I just can't even fathom like kissing this man

You like my name for it and you're like uh-huh. Yeah, I'm like all right. Let's go

That's crazy. Yeah, so on the way back to the the ship Andrew's like I'm choosing you like I had such a great time

And I was like great. This was a job well done

You know fantastic and so we got on the plank

And it makes her big speech and then of course you have the peanut gallery all saying Andrew she hates you

Like she was talking bad about you. I'm like, why are you guys saying this nobody likes Andrew. I'm so confused

It was just really confusing. Do you know now? Why no?

Yeah, I think that I think that and I became so close with a lot of the people on the top side

Oh, that they didn't want to see her go. Okay, so they would have rather kept Andrew and Anna then get rid of Andrew and Anna

Got it. That makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. Yeah

Yeah, the group just it felt like they wanted Andrew to distance himself from you and I thought that was so straight

Yeah, because nobody liked him. It was really bizarre. Yeah, yeah

It was so bizarre to me and then watching the low valve and David situation unfold

What was that like in real time? Well, okay, I wasn't there

Oh, you didn't see it for no, but when I came back yes

I walked into the the party and immediately shoday and we luck him up to me and they're like oh my god

So feel like so much is going on val and David and low and

I'm just like what yeah, what oh my god, this is insane and I will say I val

Do you girl? I love it. I'm absolutely here for it

It's nobody else's business and I don't think anybody should have gotten upset with val

Everybody should have been upset with David. It should have always been on David

Yes, and the fact that it was like turned on val like how could you do that? It's like

Val's single. Yeah, I can do whatever she wants for people listening for context

David had to choose between low and val low. He had a relationship with yeah, and during the final decision

That's the one that took 45 minutes, right? Yeah, that um he ended up choosing val okay, which is

Hairifying to be on a plank for 45 minutes. I can't even imagine that I would the first time I was on it my legs were shaking

Well, yeah, because also it doesn't seem very sturdy. No, and you have to be all the way backed up on it

Yeah, so your heels are like and nobody accidentally fell ever

No, which was crazy as a viewer. It just felt so chaotic, but living in it

I feel like it was probably more intense. It was so scary safety was the number one priority

Did anyone get injured falling off that thing? No, no, great. I mean my

My my punani stop that water pretty hard

I thought I was gonna be bruised for like a couple days

Oh my gosh, I mean that was pretty high up in

Three stories three stories that was at 30 feet. Yeah, yeah, you didn't have a life vest on

Yeah, wow, but we all had to take a swimming test before you did. Oh, yeah

What do you mean a swimming test? When you were in the hotel room for a week

They would pull us and be like okay, you have to do a pencil dive a regular dive hold your breath under water swim underwater from here to there

You're joking. No, what happens if you couldn't I have no idea you didn't get on the yacht probably not oh my gosh

What other kind of test did they have you doing? You know, it's funny. They had too many guys in the hotel

And so they had to figure out

Which ones they're gonna bring as shipwrecker's so they made the guys do a plank contest and whichever guy had the longest amount of planks

That's the guy they would bring on the boat later. And so the guys that didn't like not planks

Plants like yeah, like the workout. Yeah, the workout plank. Oh, that's so funny

Did you guys have to do like psych evaluation? Oh, yeah, yeah, doesn't everybody? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's most reality shows

But the questions are so silly. It's like do you think about killing people? Obviously you're gonna say no

I said yes online. Did you really I was like I wouldn't actually kill someone do I was like well some people I don't think I said yes to people

I said like I remember asking like do you ever want to like hurt somebody and I remember being like how do I answer this honestly?

Yeah, like do I ever want to hurt somebody probably I'd love to punch people in the face. Yeah, I feel like I ever do it

No, a psycho to say no like I never want to hurt anybody. It's like yeah, I'm so for real

That's I feel like they see they look for consistency. Yeah, I think in those tests. Yeah, and they I think they could tell it's

What like 465 questions or something crazy? So it's like you they're looking for consistency if you're being a liar trying to be like a pageant queen or something

Yeah, that's true. The right thing. But the questions like do you hear voices in your head like I'll say no, it's fine

I always hear voices in my head. It's my own. It's my own

But the voices are lying to me a lot too. So I'm like is that me? Yeah, who's there? This is what happens when you live alone for a long time

Do you have a long? I do. Yeah. Yeah. Do you love it? I love it. I love it. I've lived with the man before and

It's weird man, but it's so hard. It's really hard living with just somebody in general

I feel like people aren't supposed to like spend that much time together

And like their messes or little messes here and there but it's not a big deal

But then it becomes a big deal. It's called built-up resentment and sucks

Because you like think it first so it doesn't bother me and then down the road

You're like oh shit, it's been bothering me for a long. Yeah, like if I trip over one of your shoes again

I'm gonna lose my mind. Yeah, but if it's my shoe, it feels it. Yeah

So when it comes to you okay spoiler alert when it comes to the couple

Who actually won? Gia and Tim. What are your thoughts on them? They're nice. Yeah, yeah, you know

I didn't really get to talk to them that much so I don't know you are a really bad bullshitter

You are so bad

Your facial expression is really nice. Yeah, they're fine. They're fine

They're fine. No, they're they're cute. Yeah, they're cute. I think that

Gia deserves better than Tim. Okay, and my personal opinion. Yeah

Tell me why because I know Tim and I think Tim is a big guy in LA a lot of people know Tim

And I have a lot of friends at know Tim and so like you know, I hear a lot of things and I think Gia is so

She's still very young. Yeah, I think she's like 23 and Tim's 30 or 31

So I feel like Gia just has so much ahead of her and I think she could just I don't know

She could really take on do you think they're gonna last? No because she's so young

Yeah, you know, like let's be realistic like no, I don't I think there'll be friends forever

I don't think that they'll be in a relationship forever did the relationship feel real while you were there

I wasn't up there that much to see

You do you really don't see I'm telling you we don't see we don't talk to anybody on the downside

I'll say that when I was on the downside

Yeah, Gia and Bo were on the downside and they had a connection and I thought their connection was really great

Yeah, so Tim and Gia I don't know I really don't know did it surprise you watching

back what did surprise you watching back a lot of things actually god

I also this is gonna sound horrible. I didn't watch the last episode really

Oh, come I fell asleep. Oh fair. I fell asleep with that seat fell asleep

And I just was like oh, I know what happened so whatever like I didn't watch the end. I know what happens

So yeah, I'm just like yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it in real time

Well, if you remember what shocked you the most let me know because I always love

The watching back is so funny. I will tell you what shocked me is how much they were able to spin certain characters in a different lighting

Like for example Lexi Lexi talked shit about everybody on the boat

But she was at least open about it. She was like I just talked so much shit about you guys

But on the show when you watch it you think she's the sweetest one in the boat funny. It's so weird

It's so interesting how they can edit and reward certain people with bad behavior. Yeah, it is interesting

So you feel like she got a good edit. She got a great edit. Yeah, I think yeah, I really do think somebody got a bad edit

I would have appreciated a different edit, but that's

What edit would if you could read it yourself. How would you have shown what actually happened?

I would have shown Reese and I talking a lot more because that was never really shown. Yeah, I would show

More of my personality. I kind of like watching myself. I look kind of nuts like I look insane

Like why would they show me banging on the window like I was so many things are like I look crazy

Why are they showing?

Well, it's so funny because I mean again

You're filming that many hours and you're putting out how long an hour episode if that yeah, it was like 45 minutes

Yeah, it was really short. So they can't like give you a whole character

I know like why is it not less people on the show so we can do more character development

I will also say they did me so dirty with my facial expressions

No, I love there was a reason I'm like like for some reason my double chin had a whole personality on that show

But I didn't know I had a personality

I like that though. I like what people's facial expressions say so much. I was just saying to you

I'm like you are bad at hiding it. I think that's funny. I love facial expressions

Yeah, facial expressions can say more than words sometimes true

Are there people that you work close with on the yacht that you don't speak to anymore? Anna

Okay, we were close on the yacht and even when we were going up on the plank

We're both joking and and as like if I get dropped you're gonna buy me a bag

And I'm like girl I got you don't worry like I'm really sorry. I'm just trying to get rid of Andrew

So we had moments of this is just for the show, you know, but I think I think that maybe she didn't like her edit

And so we haven't talked much too bad. It is so it was a year ago that we filmed this

So and the guy that I was talking to and then dated after the show

He did a reality show and he was telling me like just wait just wait until you got your edit

Like they'd change things like just wait like you think the

Oh wait make you shit your pants. No, I know he was the worst

But he's like just wait, you know, like you think the producers are so nice now like just wait. What show is he from

bachelor at stop

Who uh oh

Really

Dude funny

Wait, so you were seeing him after you came off. Mm-hmm. Did was this a known thing?

No, because I had to wait until after the show came out to post about it. Oh wow. How long were you seeing each other?

Stop yeah, we met December of 2024 when I was going through my breakup before him and then yeah

I hosted his season that he was on did you yeah, he did not get a bad edit that little no

He didn't he got it and he's just like they'll ruin you

And I'm like you've made a whole career out of like what why are you talking so much shit? And also that's so funny because

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Overall are you happy you did the show? Yeah, yeah, I am I wish I had done it differently

Yeah, I am happy that I did it is there gonna be any sort of like reunion or I don't know nobody has told us

I think that we should do a reunion because there is a lot of drama yeah outside of the show

That needs to be explored can you tell me like two things the

Val and low thing is still really big interesting. It's still really big

What else I think that's like one of the biggest things what do you mean? It's still really big like what's going on like David

Someone needs to take David's phone the things that he's posting online don't make a lick of sense

The low is doing podcast articles. I can't remember talking about what happened with valentine but after the show

That valedine even know she was gonna say like there's a lot being done

And the private world of them that's really dramatic

Interesting. Yeah, so I'm shocked that Hulu hasn't been like yeah, let's do a reunion

I know right it's like you guys are doing your own reunion online with people speculating with no actually though

Because you never know how big a show is gonna be but you can kind of tell from online chat or yeah

Has it been going viral on TikTok and people having their their thoughts and opinions the most viral thing that was Andrews

Freak out with his sideburns. Oh, yeah, I think that's been the most viral thing. Wait, who's the southern girl who's

Bella, oh, Bella. I love Bella. She is she's so she who she's so funny. She is so yeah, she was she is perfect television

Because she is just so hilarious. She's so funny. It's so funny. And yeah, just she seems real. She is

I really liked Bella. Yeah, I miss Bella. Oh my god. She was great

But she also did an incredible thing which was say I'm leaving in the middle of the show. Yeah, yeah

She's like nobody's here for me. So I'm I'm done. I love that. I love that for her. Yeah, she put on that beautiful dress

She's like I'm out. Yeah, that was a boss move. I love that

I do want to shift gears for a second because I know you have some good embarrassing stories for

OTB. We love a good confessional around here. I do want to know

The I know we just spoke on the fact that you were dating somebody from bachelor world. So this was not online

It wasn't but it was there was like you guys weren't posting about it. We weren't posting each other

Yeah, we did so many trips and

Everyone on reddit was speculating and new. Okay, so go a little deeper on this. How deep would you like to take this deep as your

willing to go

Yeah, it was a time. It was a relation. How did you two meet he had messaged me years ago?

Okay, he said into my DMs years ago

And I hadn't really seen it because I don't really check my DMs. Yeah, and then one day I was in

South Carolina and so was he ironically at the same restaurant that I was at I was visiting a friend and he was visiting a friend

And I'm in line for the bathroom and the squirrel he's also in line for the bathroom

And this girl walks out of the bathroom and sees him and she's just like oh my gosh

I'm like, oh, it's like an actor like I'm so confused

So I went to go sit back down and the girl was extra I taped with her girlfriend

She's like, oh my god, so and so was here. So I lean over. I said who is that guy and she goes, oh, that's so and so from the bachelorette

I'm like, oh, I haven't seen it. Okay, but I go and look him up and I'm like, oh my god

He had DM me like two years ago. I'm like, that's so funny that he's trying to act like he doesn't know who I am

I

So my girlfriend and I left the bar and I he was standing at the bar with his friends and he said, oh, where are you guys going?

And I'm like, why are you trying to act like you don't know who I am? I know that you sit into my DM

You said that too? Yeah, and so but at the time I was in a relationship. Okay, and so nothing came of it

You know, I saw him

That night because he went to actually it was another bachelor guy who was DJing

Blake Horseman. Oh, yeah, I'm like, yeah, you kind of look like his wife. Oh really?

Oh, that's so funny. She's beautiful. She's stunning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, they're getting married soon

They are married, I think oh, yeah, then they're having a wedding soon. No, I think they already did 30 half the wedding

Well, they had a small one. I don't keep up with the Jones's like that. That's fine

Yeah, they had like a very intimate small wedding. Okay. Yeah, okay, so Blake was DJ

Yeah, so I went to go see him and then the guy also went to see him. Yeah, so I was like, okay

Well, I'm leaving because as soon as he got there, I left yeah, and so I didn't talk to him until I was going through my breakup with my

Other ex and I was like, hey, I'm gonna be in New York for a while

You know if you want to hang out and he's like absolutely

So we hung out in New York a couple times and did he like take you on dates? Was he nice to you? Yeah

Yeah, in the beginning he was really nice. Okay

And um then January you didn't really talk much February we kind of start talking a little more and then March

I was going up there a lot. He was coming to Miami. We're going back in fourth April

We really were going back and forth. He took me to the keys for my birthday like really serious

This was pretty serious, but the whole time I had applied for the show before we even got serious

So the whole time I was like, hey, just so you know wait this is before you went on the show

Oh, I thought this was after I thought if you were waiting for the episodes to come out and he was like, oh wait for the end

Okay, yeah, okay, so I was like this is the one where you're like, we'll see I'll see you when I get back. Yes

Yes, okay, so but he knows you know he's all he knows the reality world

Yeah, he understands you know the positive things that can come from it and I explained to him why I was doing it

And he was like, okay, like I understand you know he didn't want me to but he also couldn't say like don't do it

Right, so I went on there and when I came back it was like, okay, you're my girlfriend. I was like, yeah

Okay, you're my boyfriend and so we dated the rest of the year

It was really serious. We talked about marriage and kids and everything and then he just was it was the most toxic relationship

You're kidding

The most toxic relationship of my entire life

What I was crying every single week was he he just turned awful. He was horrible

And you know, it's crazy is I had so many people in the beginning say

He's toxic kidding and then his ex was so toxic like you know like

Just you know and I didn't believe them because he seems so sweet and quiet and shy and like sad boy

Now so what's the real I mean he nobody knows who this is so what's the real him he's so mean and he is so manipulative

Wow, oh my god yells and curses and puts you down and like knows how to just manipulate you make you feel less than

You know like and it's it makes me so angry because there's so many women that are obsessed with him and I think he's wonderful

I mean, I know you know. Yeah, I do it's like the whole internet thinks he's this wonderful person

But in reality, he is a nightmare

It's so hard because you want to like tell the world

I do and it's but I don't I know but honestly like I do I'm such a believer in karma

Yeah, I mean, is he really thriving and like happy in life?

I have no idea. Yeah, when I when I was with them

He seemed like the most miserable person in the world. Right. Yeah, so then you were like I can't do this anymore

No, I found out that he was dating somebody. Yeah, it was cheating on me and I called him

I found out and I'm just like what the

Are you serious and was he like? Yeah, I am or was he like denied because I caught him

He was talking to another girl and then he went on a couple dates with another one

And I found out and I caught him like so he went to tell him what the dates he'd been on because during this time

So in January we were like we were on bad terms. Yeah rocky terms. We didn't speak for like eight days

And so it was not January was not good

But then also he came to my apartment in February. Yeah

And was like, you know, I love you so much and like I want to have a family and kids and this and that but like

I really need to work out myself right now and I'm like, okay

He's like, yeah, I'm gonna do this, you know, this 12-week pottery class and I'm like

Okay, that will heal me and he's you know literally and he's like, yeah, but like I want all these things

Okay, but you just don't want it with me

He goes no, no, no, that's not true. Like I do want it with you, but like right now

Like what is happening? So he's trying to like string me along right to like keep me on the back

And if whatever he's doing doesn't go well. We'll come to find out the reason he was saying all of that was because he was seeing somebody else

Holy shit. How did you find that out? My friends sisters friend love knew the girl and was like, hey

I mean by karma. Yeah, it what I think there's still I don't know if I don't even know who the girl is

I don't know who the girl is and I never wanted to find out. I do not care. It doesn't matter

Yeah, oh my god. I'm so mad at him. I hate these stupid men who go on reality TV and think they're gods gift to women because

Yes, the women bow down to them because they think they're exactly what they see on social media and I'm just like so huge

It's horrible. I'm so tired of him so tired of these men getting me with horrible things always

Yeah, and they just like they get all this outside validation from these women online who just think oh

They're from this show and they're exactly who we think and then oh my god

And his problem was that he's so insecure that he couldn't handle a validation from guys on my end

And that was a big problem that he had because you're following is like a lot of men and yeah, he didn't he couldn't handle that

Yeah, I'm so sorry. I know we'll have to talk about you and I yes

Oh my gosh, I know I think I love that we're both gonna be in New York. We could go for so many date nights

Oh my god happy hours the happy hours and talk all the

I know oh my gosh, it's crazy now tell me your other one

Something about Spotify playlist

I remember because I was sitting on the computer thinking

Hi, what's up in my whole life? It's embarrassing like what's one thing that really sticks out like oh my god

My ex just so I did not realize that my Spotify was public

Okay, and I make a lot of unhinged players and my ex from a while ago like the ex that I had before the last year

We were to get there for six years wow love the man dearly

I think he's the most incredible person still to the state still to this day wonderful

I caught him on his birthday he calls me on mine like my parents and him are still really close

Why don't it work? We were just in different places. I met him when I was 22 and so yeah

But I love him more than he's so wonderful

But he keeps track on me here and in there, you know, and he doesn't have social media

So like he finds other little ways to like oh, he doesn't have social media. Yeah, we love him

We love him he's great

And um, he calls me one night and he's like hey, I'm just checking up on you. I'm like, I'm okay

I'm fine. He's like all right. Well, I saw you made a playlist on Spotify called will to live and you didn't add anything to it

I'm like oh my shit

I'm like yeah, because there's no will to live. I'm sorry

Oh my god, just a blank playlist called will to live there was a blank playlist called will to live and I'm like

Wait, you can see that. He's like, yeah, it's public

I don't know that I'm an apple music girl. He's assuming yeah, and well good thing because now you don't have public play

I didn't know that was a thing yummy either and to like you go back to all your other playlists and be like oh my god

The whole growing a dump truck playlist. I had to make that

That's awesome. Like I was just I have so many

Ridiculous playlists that I didn't realize were public. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so were you like really nervous for the show to come out

Or were you like out? It is what it is because nothing really crazy. You know what when I was with my ex from the show

Yeah, I was really nervous. Yeah, I was really nervous

But then when we broke up, I'm like I could give a shit. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah, yeah

It's all said and done so you that there's no going back now

No going back and it's only up from here. So what is your like what's your plan moving forward?

What do you want to do now with this platform that you have with this reality TV behind you and under your belt?

I now that I have a lot more girls especially on TikTok. I really want to lean into like female forward videos

Yeah, I am a real estate investor. Cool. I own like 31 or 32 properties. Oh sick

Yeah, so I really also want to teach women about how to invest you know and

What to spend your money on would not to spend your money on because I know so many girls that they made a lot of money back then

They spent it on things they shouldn't have and other like I'm not making that money anymore. I should have invested it

So I want to do that. I would love to do another show. Yeah, I really would love to do another show

What show would you do any show? I mean, I love traders. I would get traders

Yeah, I don't think I'd be very good at it

Yeah, but sometimes those people are the ones that do really well at it. That's true. Yeah

Yeah, would you ever do um, what's the one perfect match? I would I would do

I would do that. Yeah, I like the the premise of that show. I could tell when do they film that? Do you know?

I think it takes a year for them to release it. It does. Yeah, I don't know when they

Maybe I'll ask around. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I want you to have like a six month. Although is it six months from airing or six months from filming?

I have to wait. I can't probably airing probably airing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like that's just another

I mean, it would help the show. You know, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. I agree. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Okay

So you want to do more to be investing more? That's so cool. Yeah

That's I need to I would love to hear from other women about investing. We'll have a chat. Yeah

That's so good. I do like I have a financial advisor and I do a lot of investments

But I don't really know what I'm doing

We never taught it, you know, we never taught these things in school

You have to learn on your own as an adult and it's sad. Did you go to school for that? Or did you just kind of like

No, I went to school for communications and journalism. Got it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, wow. You've got you just have a lot of life experience

I hope you're so excited for your 30s. You're setting yourself up for success. I honestly am and I keep seeing men

Leave women for younger girls. I know and you know what it just is like you know what take them because you're a shitty man

Anyways, and nobody wants you. Yeah, nobody in the 30s want you. So like please go for it

I feel like and I say this all the time

I feel like men never learn a damn lesson and then they just keep making the same mistake where women

Grow from each experience and then always do something bigger and better and smarter and greater. Yes

And so we will continue to get better and

We're able to be happy on our own, which is so incredible and men can't

And that's the biggest problem I think right now is that men just like they need that instant gratification

They need somebody to like

Loneliness epidemic in men right now and that's because I think women are realizing like oh, I don't need you

But you need me. Yeah, yeah, like if you want a woman you have to become better. You have to do better

I always sound like a manhater. I'm like

I'm like, it's so funny because I do I love good men. I love good men. My dad's a great guy

Do you have a good dad of the best great dad? Yeah, you know, we have and that's the thing. We have a good

Bro model to like, you know

My dad. Yeah, yeah, and yet I still kept picking shitty

It's the way it goes sometimes. Well, it's a lesson. It's always a lesson. Always. Yeah. Um, well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast

Where can people find you? Um, Instagram

Sophia underscore Beverly TikTok Sophia dot Beverly. That's kind of it. Yeah. Well, I'm excited for what more women follow her

Yes, please. Yes, so much to say you have a lot of important things to say and I really loved chatting with you today

And I'm excited to see what you do next. Thank you

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