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About this Episode
这期春节期间发布的节目，主播和 Richard 一起分享 Hoxton Books 书店的装修工作，特别是不同的书架、桌椅、吊灯背后的故事。这个 pop-up 系列是通过简单慢速英文录制，文字信息由 Otter.AI 整理。
节目中提到的信息链接
606 Universal Bookshelf
纪录片 RAMS
https://www.hustwit.com/rams
Krossing 书架
https://www.kriptonite.com/en/products/krossing
Tylko Type 2 书架
https://tylko.com/shelf/bookcases/1504423/
Tiptoe 桌腿
https://www.tiptoe.fr/en/table-legs/
Bertoia Molded Shell Side Chair
https://www.knoll.com/product/bertoia-molded-side-chair
Dr Glob Chair by Philippe Starck
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O144604/dr-glob-chair-philippe-starck/dr-glob-chair-starck-philippe/
文字信息：
Yifan
Hi, Richard
Yifan
So what are we going to talk about this week?
Richard
Well, actually, let me let me wish everyone a Happy New Year. Oh, right. Happy, happy, happy New Year of the ox. Yeah. Thank you. Happy New Year, everyone. So this week, we're gonna talk about the shop design. So the format is going to be slightly different. In that, I will be asking you fun, a few questions about how the design of the shop came about. Just a little update on the situation here.
Richard
Real lockdown, the country is still under national lockdown, which means that only only food shops could open pretty much.
Richard
Which means we and we still don't even though the numbers have come down. We still don't know when we're going to open. So we're waiting.
Yifan
In the meantime, I think in Scotland, bookshops are open. Oh, really? Oh, you didn't know? Yeah. No, I was not aware. But I've not been keeping a close eye on Scotland. They just had more snow than us. That's That's all I know.
Richard
So maybe, maybe you find you could just provide us with a brief description of the location and the space where the shop is.
Yifan
Thanks, Richard. So if you listen to our very first episode, we did describe roughly the layout and the location of the shop. The shop is in an area called Hoxton in London. And it's next door to a Chinese supermarket.
Yifan
The building is actually not one of those you see in their London Film. Like Notting Hill, it's more like a building you would see in a second tier City in, in China, I guess, but probably smaller, less.
Richard
It's, it's a modern building.
Yifan
Now you say it that way. It's a five storey, what 10 years old, 10 years old, five storey tall apartment block in a busy road. And so on the ground floor, you have what's called commercial units. So within this apartment block, there are two commercial units. One is a Chinese supermarket. And the other is going to be a half Chinese bookshop within our commercial unit Chinese bookshop.
Unknown Speaker
Well, it's kind of like a Chinese British run bookshop. Within our unit,
Unknown Speaker
we are sharing the book The shop space with a with an art gallery. So we only occupy one third of the space. And the art gallery occupies two thirds the space, but we share the same entrance.
Unknown Speaker
If that makes sense.
Unknown Speaker
There's just one entrance for both. So you have you enter the gallery to enter the bookshop. Yes, exactly. So when you enter if you turn left is the bookshop. If you turn right is the gallery ish. Maybe I should also say something about the floor of our the our half of the shop is about 15 to 20 square metres. And we have fairly high a fairly high ceiling so from floor to ceiling is about four there is Yeah, shall we say? four metres? three metres, at least three point something. Yeah, it's a pretty high ceiling. Yeah. So yeah, 3.5 metres. But the shape of the space is a triangle. It's one of those classic triangles as Rachel would say, you study in a trigonometry class. So the road runs along I would say p pata news I bought a news hypotony news. And then we have an along that side. Let me maybe just use Chinese to describe this. So the triangle is like a different like a ghost ankles, the shell Dominica, semiotic Chung, okay. So a hypotenuse is the shroud was a bit okay. And what chord adjacent is the Jericho sank was the neighbour and then the opposite side is the Was it the right the right angle sides are opposite the opposite the hypotenuse? Yes, this is great. This is like Pythagoras theorem, a squared plus b squared equals c squared. Exactly. So
Unknown Speaker
Basically imagine hypotenuse is the seat is the? Yes. So imagine the voice is three, four and five metres long, which roughly it probably is it's slightly bigger than that. Yeah, yeah, that's the class. Yeah, Pythagoras. theorem try Yes. And the opposite side is the three, the adjacent side is the four. And the hypotenuse side is the five.
Unknown Speaker
That a 10 out. Okay, so that's a space. And when you go into the shop, you go through the smallest acute angle, kind of, right? Again, it's a gap in the wall, never mind like a little, rather than in the middle of a side, it's on the side of a side, if that makes sense. Basically, as you go in, and maybe you want to explain that one in Chinese,
Unknown Speaker
it's already very confused as you go into the shop. On your left, it's the hypotenuse. And it's got a window in the middle, and that's facing the busy road. And then on your right is the adjacent side, that's just like a wall that's dividing our bookshop and the shop next door. And then we have the opposite side, you have another wall.
Unknown Speaker
That that's the layout. Is that essentially, it sounds like a lot of wolves to put put bookshelves on exactly. Basically this. There's one takeaway from all this. And what was your question? So he did the desert? Yeah, yeah. So essentially, what was what we went back, but essentially, the question was, who did the design planning? Okay. So there were two designs. So one, we consulted a friend in Beijing, who's a who's a interior designer. And he gave a, you know, very simple layout, which actually looks pretty much like much like what we got in the end, like what we got in the end. But what happened was, we also engaged a London designer, who's also a friend and practically worked for free on this. And I wouldn't say she designed the shop, she walked through, you know, with us the different options. And yeah, she guided us with design work, I would say helped us to choose colours and
Unknown Speaker
etc. and sounds fine. Yeah. Yeah. And then should we name checker or name checker practice? Yeah. What is her practice called?
Unknown Speaker
Gatti? Ruth Rhodes? Yes. I think they won some awards recently. Oh, yeah. That's right there. She had all sorts of Yeah, she had. She had an award. At the end of her email address, there was an award for some young architect. Yeah, yes, yeah, that sort of thing.
Unknown Speaker
But I think they never did a bookshop project. And that's why she was very happy to work on this project for next to nothing fee. So that she would, you know, have this in her portfolio. Right to to,
Unknown Speaker
to show off the
Unknown Speaker
show for versatility. So as you walk into the bookshop, what you first notice is you are facing a massive three metre wide bookshelf. And that's kind of a wooden bookshelf, then you notice a round table.
Unknown Speaker
And then you notice pendant seating light hanging above the round table.
Unknown Speaker
And on two sides, you have these
Unknown Speaker
hanging shelves, that's not standing on the floor, on the two sides. That's the main thing. And on the three wars, we have two tones. So on the
Unknown Speaker
top one metre, about one metre, it's white, and then
Unknown Speaker
from floor to up to say 2.2 metres is a very light grey. And we have positioned our bookshelves such that you have a top line, the grey line runs neatly on top of all the bookshelves.
Unknown Speaker
And let's say above the above the bookshelves are white. Yes, the walls are white. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Again, making something very simple, very confusing. It's what we're doing here. And we have two chairs as well. So all we have is 12345677 items. So three sharps, one table, two chairs and one light. That's it
Unknown Speaker
right
Unknown Speaker
This This was all furniture that the architectures I mean, the the most important things are the bookshelves. So the architects, we wanted to do this thing as cheaply as possible. And when I first that's the wish, and when I first Yes, imagine the bookshop, I thought we could spend 1000 pounds 2000 maximum on just getting a basic bookshop up and running. Right? So our architect told us the cheapest option would be to buy 10 IKEA Billy bookcases
Unknown Speaker
and the Billy set and then just set them up like soldiers all over all around over all around covering up all the walls. Yeah, a BNC that will look ugly for sure. Because you have you can't choose the colour and then or the each individual bookshelf they will be slightly wobbly. They won't line out straight.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, they will be flush. So what happens is the architect proposed that a carpenter would what's called a box out so to build fake walls above the Billy bookcase. So it looks like we have the Billy bookcases are living inside the walls. Yeah, like building built in. Yeah. Built in bookcase. Yeah. And that boxing out alone is like 4000 pounds or something. Wow. Or maybe 2000 pounds. It's a lot of money. But anyway, it's about like a lot of money for what was basically air behind it. Yes. For a bit basically, you're actually shrinking the room. Right? You're building additional wars. Yeah, you're shrinking the room in a room that's not that big, you know, huge to start off. Exactly. And then we can build 10 Billy bookcases as we write, we actually tried this option and literally try this, didn't we? Yeah. So successful.
Unknown Speaker
The architect I think they told us, you might want to buy one billet bookcase and then put it up, and then see if you like it really look like Yeah. And, and I think they realise that. Yeah, there's a good chance we won't like it. And we didn't. Right. Right. So they set us on the kind of you could try this. We don't think you're gonna like it, but you know, try anyway. Yeah. And, but they're different option is they would design like custom make bookshelves twice, which are going to be also very expensive. So that would have been more than the 4000 pounds to enclose the top of the bookcase for sure. That would be I would say twice as much. I did say in the beginning, I wanted a minimalist look. Just the focus should be the books and not the shelves. Right? That's true. And in the book shelving world there is a very famous, what's called a modular bookshelf. 606 universal shelving system. It's designed by Dieter Rams. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dieter Rams is very famous. I would say he's the Jonathan Ive Yes, a knife took a load of inspiration of Yeah, like he's like Jonathan Ives God. Right. Okay. I didn't know that the calculator design an app is basically just copy and pasted from a Dieter Rams calculator design. Right? So for people who didn't know Dieter Rams was probably working in the 60s and 70s. And maybe late even later, German. He worked for German, a German company, brown brown. That still makes toothbrushes and kitchen staff and shaving razors, etc. But they did a great documentary. We could link
Unknown Speaker
link about ram RAMs, Rams. I think it's just called Rams Rams. Yeah. Yeah, we could link in the notes. I don't know.
Unknown Speaker
But do know that back then. To compare it to, to Jonathan Ive of apple. Brown. Made loads of electronic goods, right like they made Yeah. record players, speakers. Sure. Yeah. calculators alarm clocks, which back then? Probably high tech.
Unknown Speaker
So yeah, yeah, they were like yeah, what you know what I noticed is brown is reviving a Dieter ram kind of ish design of speakers. And that's interesting because, yeah, because now I think the brown products they don't really look as interesting.
Unknown Speaker
I nearly did. I think what years ago? Exactly. So they handed the the baton to I would say Mooji. And apple.
Unknown Speaker
Hmm. And yeah, probably, but then then the Rams also does this v2 thing nowadays, that's his, that's his outfit. This is what sort of going back to the 606 shelf? Yes. Which is now sold by a company called v2. But then, you know, it's massively expensive, isn't it? I mean, we could buy a lot of books without money
Unknown Speaker
to buy three to fit our bookshop with Fitz who would cost a Tesla basically
Unknown Speaker
right a model three it's a cheaper Tesla Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. And but in the end, you know, we found cheaper options. Yeah. That you found these cheaper options or Yeah, I did. Yeah. And right because the architect really was was going to be too expensive designing his own shelves or Yeah, her own shelves. I found two separate things. I basically googled you know alternatives to Dieter Rams bookshelves.
Unknown Speaker
Alternatives to Dieter Rams. bookshelves. Yeah. And exactly. And all the options are still too expensive. What happened was then I went to a furniture shop in London. that sells nice furniture. It's Conrad Conrad shop. And of course, yeah, yeah. Who who started the shop is Terrence Terrence Conlon who died last year, didn't he? He died not that long ago. Was he a designer himself? Or is he just a dealer? That's a good question. Anyway, I think but basically known as a as a as a furniture seller than a furniture maker. Yeah. So he sells a lot of minimalist furniture, let's say, from continental Europe. And so in his shop, I found this
Unknown Speaker
what's called a crossing shelf by an Italian company and Milan Milan based company called kryptonite. Right? And it's super minimal. It's even more minimal than Dieter Rams, bookshelves and rave. And it's a lot cheaper. It's still expensive, but it's a lot cheaper. So then a 606. Yeah, so what happened was, if we were to buy crossing shops for all three wars,
Unknown Speaker
that would be too expensive.
Unknown Speaker
I so for the longest war. So this is why we've got two different sets of shelves in this bookshop, you know, yeah. you'd imagine you just have one kind of bookcase. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
So basically, as you walk into the bookshelf on the left and right hand side, you have this very minimalist shelf that's floating on the wall. And then right the shelf that's facing you, it's a floor standing. It's kind of like a billy bookshelf. But you know, it's a it's probably nicer looking. And that's a lot cheaper. And I thought it's better to have something that contrasts that looks totally different than, you know, to similar type of bookshops.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, yeah. break some of the break some of the uniformity. Yes, exactly. So, so that's our bookshops. And I must say the the Niam the architects in it and ended up complimenting you and your choice of of bookcases, and in fact, also showed the design to a friend of mine who was an turns out to be an interior designer, and he was he was amazed at the look of these at least the first bookshelf. Yeah. That went in. So So that's, that's a bookshelf called telco it's a Polish company. And they advertised on Instagram. So Oh, maybe it's in Pinterest. Yeah, I think post is a great source once you you look for bookshelves and then you click on the pictures you use save some you like then they work out your taste and then advertise to you.
Unknown Speaker
And
Unknown Speaker
and these telco bookshelves, basically you can on their web website, you can say, you can completely customise how wide how tall, how many shelves you want, do you want doors, and then once you have the design, they tell you the price you pay, then they produce it and ship it to you. And everything is super simple to assemble. You just do it yourself. Yeah. So it's like really simple bespoke. Yeah. Okay, I would say on our bookshelf, still
Unknown Speaker
cost over 4000 pounds. So it's still right. So we're double the original idea, right? Like the original 2000 pound idea was sort of double that. Yes. But we're not like, given what we just talked about, we could have been way beyond 4000 pounds. Yeah, at this stage. Yeah. I don't know I, because we're going to sell books. And we also want to be able to sell other items as well. Because the margins on books are quite thin. And so we don't want to limit our options. So we want the bookshop to look fancy, kind of fancy, not fancy to look tasteful. And so that we can sell other stuff as well. So I guess that's why we overspent a bit on ice shelves. Yeah. Right. Okay. I didn't want two people to walk in and think this shop, you know, is a budget shop, and they didn't feel like spending money.
Unknown Speaker
Indeed, yeah. Yeah. That's,
Unknown Speaker
that's
Unknown Speaker
retail psychology here. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker
Is that I mean, anything else you'd like to add to all the various bookshelves? Nope. What about you? Okay. Short, big? Because, I mean, beyond shelves, you there's there's a table in the middle of the space. And a future couple of chairs. Yeah. Now, is that is that just combined to form a, some sort of workstation? I mean, what's going on there? Yeah. Because you need to sit somewhere, right. You're going to work in the shop. And yeah, that's basically your your desk and your desk. And yeah, maybe you can talk about the two chairs. And, and then I write the table. Yeah, yes, a couple of couple of
Unknown Speaker
couple of random chairs which were
Unknown Speaker
provided on a long term loan from my father's company.
Unknown Speaker
They seem to have a collection of chairs. And as a few years ago, they moved offices, they move to smaller offices, it means that they had to reduce their collection of chairs, they can add too many chairs for the new smaller premises. So I asked if we could you borrow a couple for our space because I thought they probably fit in quite nicely.
Unknown Speaker
So out the the chair collection, we have a better, hairy better tire moulded shell side chair. Which one is that? Oh, that's the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah. With the polished Chrome Frame finish. And that's apparently 1960 design. Yeah. Harry bertoia. And then the, the turquoise one
Unknown Speaker
is a Phillip stock, Dr. globe model, or Dr. glubb, isn't he? Which one's the turquoise one? I don't even remember that. Look, now. Is it turquoise green, you know, with amazing colours, but that I just somebody says because blue. The yellow one is so yellow. That's the only one I remember. Okay, so there's a blue chair. I see. And what's nice green was turquoise. I don't know it's green. Let's say it's green. It's probably green. It's probably too green to be turquoise. My mistake. And, and what he likes is Dr. glob, sorry, what legs? Does the grill? Yeah, what legs they have? It's got
Unknown Speaker
aluminium. Okay, so the rear legs are aluminium. But the front legs are plastic. Are they so is this from the 80s 90s this is Yeah. 1988. Okay, I said she remember when my father got that one? Yeah, it's dead. Exciting. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Anyway, so.
Unknown Speaker
So, thank you. Thank you to thank you to them for the for the loan of the chairs. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Which of course, means that now one can sit down.
Unknown Speaker
But I would like to just add those two chairs are mighty uncomfortable to sit on. Really? Yes.
Unknown Speaker
Gosh,
Unknown Speaker
right.
Unknown Speaker
We're gonna need to pad them out with something. I don't know. Yeah. But they look nice. Yeah, they look very, very nice. Yeah. But that's the thing though. These designers you know, they make chairs and then this kind of like, I don't know, I think I think most tears are not designed to be sat on you. No, no.
Unknown Speaker
So
Unknown Speaker
the law I mean, the last thing I was gonna ask you about it.
Unknown Speaker
The space so the thing that sort of crowns the whole space is is the hanging light in the centre, which is a is quite the showpiece. Where did you find that event? So that I found in a
Unknown Speaker
little it's kind of like, Is it like
Unknown Speaker
a flying open book? Yes. Sort of half bird half book. Yeah. It's like a metal sculpture. It's quite, quite airy and light and hung from two pieces of very thin steel cables. from the ceiling. Yeah. So it looks like you have a book opening up. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Where'd that come from? Just walking past a secondhand shop. In right, yeah, somewhere. I saw the thing before I knew we were going to have this bookshop, bookshop and I wanted yet light. And that light was very expensive. It's, I wrote it down somewhere. It's nearly 900 pounds. Right? So I thought, okay, that's out of the question that will be too extravagant.
Unknown Speaker
But when we had, you know, have this project, then we then I thought, okay, so we need something interesting in the shop to make it instagrammable. I thought that's exactly what I thought, you know, this is the only thing I thought people might come in, even as they walk past us in the street. It might catch their attention. And do you think do you think they'll wonder if we got any of those things on sale?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure. Like, if I saw it, I would ask. Yeah, yeah. And I did ask about, you know, the dealer, the secondhand furniture dealer, and he told me that this is probably to his knowledge, a unique piece. That was designed by a Swedish designer. I don't have the name for some clients in the 60s. Right, right. Right. Right. So we need to do a bit of research. Yeah, that that was his sales. Research. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Okay. Well, we didn't talk about the table.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, what's happening with the table, it's the proudest achievement I have. So it's a it's a circular round table. And
Unknown Speaker
again, it's from Instagram, there is a French company called tip toe, they make the technical term I think, is called f clamp, table legs. So a clamp is something
Unknown Speaker
that holds or holds or grabs something. So these table legs is like a letter F. And then you can actually fit the F opening
Unknown Speaker
to any tabletop that you may have yourself and then you can screw it tight. So in basically like a workman would use f clamps to clamp anything, but these ones are actually nice looking. And
Unknown Speaker
so basically, they are universal table legs.
Unknown Speaker
So you can order for circular table again, we can save on the cost. We only need three legs for a circular table, whereas if it's a they just go to the legs individually. Yeah, well, or three in Yeah, I ordered the legs from from tiptoe.
Unknown Speaker
They were posted from France. They are they're actually Alright, the price it's about 55 pounds each so on
Unknown Speaker
and, and we save on the tax as well. So it's actually less than 55 to us.
Unknown Speaker
And then the table top the round circular disk top is from the cheapest shop in the UK called Argos. And that's like 100 pounds for a 1.2 metre wide circular table top. But that came in a wooden colour, like a natural key light or oak colour. And I painted it with the surplus floor paint we have the grey colour and the rack as it matches the floor. So our table and the floor is the same colour but that's the designer that's the architects idea.
Unknown Speaker
Right? Yeah, they you executed it or I executed it terribly. I think you would call it I think you got the clamps. You got the actual piece of wood. Yeah. And then you painted it. I couldn't I painted three coats and I couldn't get it to look very smooth. So what happened was, in the end, I took a sandpaper and I sanded down the surface. So the table already
Unknown Speaker
He looks kind of worn out a little bit worn out. And tired. You may not I mean, we just did. Yeah. Once we put lots of books on it. Yeah, you You Won't you won't notice he won't notice.
Unknown Speaker
All right. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. That Yeah, I think we've covered it all. Pretty much. Yeah. Right. So that's the design.
Unknown Speaker
Essentially it. Yeah. And some some good brands and quite good value for money. brands that, yeah, if you guys are interested to buy these products, you can take a look. I recommend them. Sure. Are we going to include some links? or? Yeah, we're gonna put put some links. Yeah, I look at I want to also add, you know, with those kryptonite crossing shelves that's floating. So you those shelves are screwed into the wall. So they are,
Unknown Speaker
you know, like 20 screws.
Unknown Speaker
And if you're going to put books on them, those walls were strengthened, especially. So a builder have put a 20 Cm perhaps plywood against what their reward was there originally, and then painted the whole thing. So we have an extra wooden layer for the so the nails can have some. What would you call it a bite to catch? Oh, I see. Yeah, thing. I don't know. depth. It's depth. Yeah. So you can actually go in there and then take the weight.
Unknown Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We don't want any collapse in bookshelves.
Unknown Speaker
Nope, not at all. Yeah. most embarrassing.
Unknown Speaker
The shop now it looks beautiful. Because it has no books and no customers. So it looks very clean.
Unknown Speaker
No browsers. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, hopefully it won't. It won't continue to be like that. But at this rate, who knows? Given that we're, yeah, we're still very much in lockdown. Yeah. So have you have you have a word? An interesting English word for for this audience reading English word. Goodness gracious. Sure. Yeah, I have a word. So I was thinking as it's Chinese New Year, and you will all be receiving some money
Unknown Speaker
with all my late look at you know, another word for money, perhaps something that could be considered slang, you know, not, not what we'd say Queen's English.
Unknown Speaker
And the hundreds of the plenty of different terms for money, but one of them we thought would be interesting is quid.
Unknown Speaker
Especially as in lungu. Qu ID to EU ID in London. You know, people be just to, you know, to say, rather than, say two pounds might say it's two quid, three quid or whatever. 500 quid, there's no, really? Yeah, until you get into probably lots of zeros. Or you might even say that, you know, still say a million quid. Yes. Interestingly, you might say a million quid. But if you're 10,000, you wouldn't say 10,000 quid you'd be saying 10 grand. So there's a bit where sort of, you know, you might say in the hundreds, you're still on quid, but then once you get to be on the 1000 you might be talking about grand. And then when you reach a million, you'd probably be back on a million quid. Okay, would you reckon? I mean, I don't know. I've never really heard anyone talk about 1000 you know, 100,000 quid, you're right. So when when we were in English class, we were told British money is pounds. And yeah, but when you come to England, nobody actually says this is three pounds. They would say three quid. Can you can you lend me five quid? So it's a good way to know.
Unknown Speaker
And what Richard mentioned is
Unknown Speaker
1000 quid is
Unknown Speaker
a grant
Unknown Speaker
right? So this time is one grand one grand, grand assuming 1000 Yeah, I think short 5000 is five grand. Yeah, so quit and grant the quit doesn't doesn't end in Chinese. Don't you talk about quiet. Yeah, we say quiet quiet. And creating brand that you don't put SS at the end. I know you don't say yeah, you don't talk say one quit two. Yeah. Two quids is just quit.
Unknown Speaker
Well, yeah, yeah, whereas you might say one pound two pounds. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
But interesting. I think it's also interesting if you visit North America, they don't understand quid, but they do understand grand. They say grand as well. Yeah, they'll say grand. Yeah. Yeah, but they won't. Yeah, quid. Yeah, no, don't say bucks. bucks. Oh, exactly quit his back. Yeah, yes, but the JC one buck two bucks. Yes. Yeah, I see. Yeah, they pluraleyes it. Yeah. But I don't know whether they say a tenner and a fiver. Oh, five quid into a fiver thing that Yeah. But do they talk in like, you know, whatever it is. Hamilton's and
Unknown Speaker
the 100 Franklin Franklin. Benjamin, even Benjamin? Oh, no, you should tell us about that word. What is up in Latin? What do you mean what is it been Loudon? You know, like, Benjamin Franklin is on the $100. Bill. Yeah, that's 100. So people say one Franklin or one Benjamin? I don't know. Yeah. In Europe, you have 500 euro note? Cat. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't you tell me that's called a binladin? I did I yes. Like as terrorists etc. A mass 500 euro notes? Yes. Rather than $100. Rather than Benjamin's. They'd rather have 500 euro notes. You don't remember this? Yeah, I might have known this and then forgotten about it. Yeah. Well, anyway, so I think that that's really interesting. It's a 500 pound or sorry, 500. euro note is a binladin. Okay, right. Okay. I see what you mean. So you got 500 has been logged in $100. Benjamin? Yeah. And then otherwise, we got one quit to quit. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
But just a tip. If you visit Europe don't bring any bin Laden's nobody accepts them.
Unknown Speaker
It's Yeah, let's say you see any of them. Yeah, yeah, it's no it's in France. It's illegal now.
Unknown Speaker
Really? Yeah. Wow. You don't remember last time I had up in London and I had to visit the Bank of France. Two weeks to break it up. Really? Oh, yeah. That rings a bell. Like Excuse me. I've got too many been lardons
Unknown Speaker
Can you give me give me a few days something smaller. How about a couple of you know a few Benjamin's? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Anyway, I'm not sure people say Benjamins. But. Well, thank you very much a joke about Benjamin's famous song. It's all about the Benjamins baby. Oh, I see. Okay, sorry. Yeah. Okay, that's true for you, as well. I mean, we, you know, we've gone off course from quid.
Unknown Speaker
Alright. Okay. Let's call it tonight. Thank you, Richard. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all. Let's talk next month. Okay. Ciao. Ciao.
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