Simon Roche on multiculturalism, war, and exit strategies | Jerm Warfare

0:30My name is Jim. This is Jim Warfare, the Battle of Ideas. I feel obliged to give long form answers to Jeremy, because the subjects that you and I discuss are very much bigger than people think that they are. I heard some Americans talking about South Africa the other day. And the understanding of what's going on here is so simplistic. If I simplified things, I'd leave myself open to a lot of criticism. So I try to bring the receipts and build the whole case for the audience. So they know that I'm not bull dusting. You know, if I talk about farm murders, I talk about farm murders with facts, figures, data and statistics. So that nobody can say to me, it's not true. You know, they would have to come with a ton of non-existent statistics to even make a case. So yeah, we discuss subjects that sort of invite a comprehensive address.

1:33You know I've been chatting for many years now, but I don't think Simon, you've ever actually explained to my UK Column audience particularly what Saint London is. Many years ago, our leader and founder believed that many of the central premises of the new South Africa proposition were false. That it was too much of a dollied up story to be real. And he was trained in the army in intelligence. So he is able to interrogate a subject intellectually. Does the sound true? Does that, you know, is this likely? Is it probable? And he arrived at the conclusion that sooner or later, South Africa was going to meet with a far more harsh reality than the sweetheart Mary Poppins reality of the transition

2:40from apartheid through the elections on the 27th of April 1994, first multiracial elections in South Africa, general elections that were won by the ANC. And he then became familiar with the prophecies of an obscure character, to most people obscure, from about a hundred and odd years ago. He was born in 1862, died in 1926. So he lived to be 64. And those prophecies are very, very, very reliable. Whether you're an atheist watching this or a Buddhist would have you, doesn't matter. Maybe it was sheer luck, but the fact remains that he was extraordinarily accurate. And he was involved in the Boer War as a non-combatant

3:41for religious reasons. He didn't carry a rifle, but he was at the front lines. He felt it was his duty. And many generals attested to the supernatural nature of his prophecies. You know, there weren't predictions. They were supernatural. It's things that he could never possibly have known and which were enormously improbable. And there's a long list, laundry list, 800 and something, I believe, all told. One of the series of prophecies pertained to the new South Africa. He said, bearing in mind a hundred years ago, nobody ever believed that any African country should be allowed to rule itself. That was the prevailing wisdom of all of the developed world. So he said that South Africa, of all countries,

4:45in other words, the African country with the highest percentage of European people, would one day be ruled by a black man. One day a black man will sit on the throne of South Africa. And he will be deemed a saint by the world. And when he dies, people will come from all over the world to pay homage to him. And he'll be in a glass coffin in Pretoria, et cetera, et cetera. With that in mind, our leader and founder, his name is Mr. Gustaf Miller, sought to found an organization based upon Christian conservative Caucasian principles. We're an overtly Christian organization that we don't do church services and things like that, that we are overtly Christian.

5:45We're an emergency plan initiative. We're defined under law as a civil defense organization. Our raison d'etre, our purpose for existence, is to execute a national emergency plan to safeguard the welfare of our members in the event of cataclysmic events in South Africa. So he sought to set up something like that. Not, it's not Marshall, it's not about, I don't know, whatever silly things, inviting trouble. It's about ordinary families in South Africa that share those three values, though Caucasian people, Caucasian values, Caucasian norms, European, if you like, conservative and Christian. And, yeah, I think that's the gist of the story, to answer your question and not to be too long-winded.

6:46That's who and what we are, and that's how we came to be. Now, obviously, on hearing that a knee-jerk response could be over, that sounds a bit racist. Yeah, I'm sure it does sound racist, but it's never racist when no white person can now or ever could, by a property in the kingdom of Khozulu or in any of the nine, or sub-Kingdoms, or in Baputatona, or it's not racist when you have the Black Accountants Society. You know, it's just, it's a silly argument. It's a, we're over at argument, or that's how, that's how we see it. You know, it was, it kind of worked for a time, but then it became patently hypocritical. When South Africans were being persuaded by the media and by the rest of the world, that they should accept

7:49and not resist the new South Africa rainbow nation, nobody ever said, oh, and by the way, there is going to be reverse racism because there's a lot of catching up to do. They said it's going to be equal. Everybody will have equal opportunity, equal, equal, equal, equal. And then you have things like astonishing Black economic empowerment laws, which make it, I mean, it's a whole subject on its own. And you have things like white people on to loud an organization, but black people are. Black people can have, you know, Zulu organizations, you name it, there's devoted to their tribe, to their village, exclusive of any race, any other tribe. And we remember, we were told, what was the slogan in the 1980s, the late 80s? The chief slogan used by the anti-apartheid movement was non-racialism, non-tribalism, non-sexism.

8:52And now there are overt organizations that represent certain tribes only. So, you know, people can say whatever they like. Really, it's just now, patently, as a nine, to make that argument. You said reverse racism and a lot of academics and media types, poo-poo that. But, yeah, anybody can go to racelaw.co.zide. I have it open in front of me, and yes, yes, what it says on the front page. South Africa's legal system is one of only a handful around the world that treats legal subjects differently based on their perceived race or skin color. This has been the case for centuries, but most of the world assumes it comes, sorry, it came to an end in the 1990s. And this is not the case. Racelaw.co.zide is a public interest initiative to index all the statuses, regulations, policies

9:53and superiors, court judgements that perpetuate racialism as a matter of law. Listen to this, 324 racial acts of parliament have been adopted since 1910. 122 of those racial acts of parliament have been adopted since 1994. And 145 racial acts of parliament are operational today in the year 2026. You see, yeah, it's silly Jeremy. You know, in-group stuff is vital to everybody. But white people have been bullied out of thinking like that. In-group is fine for me, but not for the. And we're just an organization that says, under international law, chiefly, but not only the protocols additional to the Geneva conventions.

10:54Provision is made for identifiable ethnic groups to act in a lawful manner in their best interests in anticipation of war. That's explicit. Anybody can look that up. Anybody can find the protocols additional to the Geneva conventions and read through them. I think protocol three is almost totally irrelevant to such an exercise, but the early portions of protocols one and two express this explicitly. So all that our boss, our leader and founder, Mr Gustaf Miller did was he said, we're going to do a legal, decent, respectable thing. We're not going to injure, we're not going to maim, we're not going to rob, we're not going to rape of which there is so much in this country. Highest rape statistics in the world. Six of the top most dangerous cities in the world are South African, four of the top 10, six of the top 20 and four of the top 10. It's, we have nothing to be ashamed of.

11:58No, St. London has ever been convicted of a murder or a rape or a whatever with decent, ordinary, plain, respectable people who are under international law, simply working to the prejudice of nobody to safeguard the welfare of our people in the event of a cataclysm in this country. And what's more, it should be noted, I know you're more politically correct viewers will struggle with this one. But if you live in a certain society, you understand it far better than the experts in the Northern Hemisphere. And as somebody who lives in this society, I know that if there's a cataclysm in this country of one description or another, there will be a fracturing along racial lines and it won't be a purely white thing. It won't be the white saying,

12:59let's get it together as a tiny minority and beat up all the blacks. We don't have control of the army. We don't have control of the police. We're about four and a half million people of an official population of 60 million that is generally regarded to be around about the 80 million mark by statisticians. You know the story. Every time we have a census in South Africa, some very learned man writes into the newspaper, exposing the stats as silly. Four and a half million of 80 million or 70 million or 60 million, it's the fracturing along racial lines will be driven mostly by black people. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing because it is what has happened since forever. We live in an age where doctrine is regarded as having greater value than practical reality.

14:02I can distort reality with doctrine. So although I've never menstruated and the glands in my breasts are not sufficiently developed for me to lactate, though I have no cervix and no womb and no birth canal, those things that I've just mentioned are the defining characteristics of a woman. And they are determined by a two X chromosomes. And although I don't have two X chromosomes at the root at the root of every cell in my body, I am not a woman, yet I can say that I am. And so we live in a time when people can say that everybody can get along and it'll be delightful. But very seldom in history is that worked well for any sustained period. There are exceptions, but the exceptions prove the rule.

15:03When you point to Rome or Persia as two notable exceptions of places that incorporated the peoples around them in an accommodating manner, you stop there. You don't then go on to point out, oh no, I've heard that they have origin, these were very, very accepting of it because nobody has a third example. It's always Rome and Persia. The reality is that I have guests here. I've had a lot, many, many, many people come to visit me over the past few months to ask advice on the satanic timeline for the ending of the world, which as I've described to you some time back, there's about a seven month window that began last Tuesday, the 17th of February anyway. And in the occult, they believe that humanity must be destroyed now. And a key date is the second and third of March.

16:05Very, very key. My point being that throughout this history when cataclysm have occurred, you run first to your mommy and your daddy, and your brothers, and your sister, and your cousins. You run to people of the same church and faith and traditions and culture. It's the way that human beings are built. And you can argue all you like against it, but you know, Jeremy, this becomes an uncomfortable subject, but I'm gonna say it. You don't have to be especially bright upon discovering that 88% of our DNA is devoted to our brains. To realize that mathematically, that means that brains are very, very, very, very much more different than skin and hair and teeth and whatever.

17:07When we are threatened, we always will, and it will never change, seek out those who are closest to us brain-wise. And everything that flows out of the brain, I'm not talking about whether you can do mental, you know, calculus in your head or something like that, trigonometry, without a pencil and a piece of paper. I'm talking about everything, everything that flows out of our brains. We have in South Africa weaver birds, and there's a huge variety of them, and they all build their nests differently, but according to species, they all build them identically. It comes from within. It's not an artifact. My culture, my religion, my everything came from within the body corporate of those most like me.

18:09And there is some variety between, let's say, Eastern orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, but for the most part, they're practically identical when viewed from the perspective of a Hindu or an animist. You know, somebody who believes that there's a spirit in a tree or whatever, or an activist, somebody who believes in ancestor worship. The divisions between us are enormous, and they come from within. That's how it works. In science, they don't talk like modern human beings do. In science, they know, in zoology and botany, for example. They know that it comes from within. It's not imposed. My behavior, my culture, my traditions, my ways, my, in ancient Rome, they had an expression that was meant to cover everything.

19:10Norms, mores, and values. So what are my norms? You're in Rome, you want to know how to behave? Well, as a norm, we don't walk around naked. Oh, okay, make a note of that. As a norm, we don't pinch other men's wives' bottoms. Oh, jolly, good bit of watch out for that. As a norm, we have three meals a day. And so on. What are our mores, what do we believe is right and what is wrong? I should have used the illustration of the other man's wife in the mores category. And what is right and wrong, okay, everybody understands that. And values, what do we cherish? In the West, we cherish. We have, I'm going to use some examples. People may have better ones that come to their mind. Perhaps ballet, perhaps art, perhaps the building of cathedrals and churches.

20:13So much so that the flying buttresses of Ruehn Cathedral and similar places have never been replicated. They are the high point in the pinnacle of architecture. Clearly, somebody thought that it was a very good idea to invest the equivalent of trillions of dollars into flying buttresses because it's damn difficult. Those are, we cherish that. We cherish the idea of formal education so that everybody has an identical basic knowledge of how the world functions. And not just throwing the baby in the deep end of the swimming pool and watching some sink and some swim. That's how it works. Really how it works. And those people who doubt me should just be a little bit patient because given what's going on in bond markets

21:14and stock markets, I'll illustrate with one point. Sorry to be so long-winded. But if you're not sure, if you watch MSNBC and then you hear me talk and you think, golly gee, I wonder who's right. I'll settle the argument once and for all. In 1929, when the stock market crashed, the crash was prompted by the recognition of a bubble and people therefore withdrawing the market, their money from the market. The bubble, we don't have all the information that we would like to have, was an average price-to-earnings ratio of an American stock of between 12 and 15. As I say, we can't be certain. So across all of the stocks traded on the stock markets in the United States of America, price-to-earnings ratio means that it takes a certain amount of time when you get dividends. I invest in Jeremy's company. Since me, Simon, I promise you I'm going to give you

22:14half the profits every year and you'll never regret it. And I discover that those profits are 5,000 round a year. But I put in a million round, we're a million pounds, we're a million dollars. It's going to take me how many years to get my money back and I start to think, sheepers, I'm not going to fall for that again. So people were buying stocks for a certain amount of money and on average, it took them 12 to 15 years to get their original capital back in the form of the yearly dividend payment. And they perceived that that was absurd. And so the clever guys got out of the market. Right now, the price-to-earnings ratio across all US stock markets is 26. Let that sink in. But if you use a more nuanced way of measuring price-to-earnings, if you extend it a little bit, if you don't just say, well, Jeremy gave me a great power to last year.

23:16Golly, gee, this is going to go on forever and ever and ever. If you measure it using the capeshilla index or the capeshilla, I'm forgetting the word, then you measure over 10-year trailing period. So Jeremy says, oh, I promise you this thing is going to work up. I've been doing it for 10 years and it's worked, but I need a cash injection. You're the man for me, man. And I look at the books. If I use the capeshilla and see what profits he's made over 10 years, to assess whether he's as good as his word, and this endeavor of his is profitable and is worth me investing in, you will discover using the capeshilla that right now the US stock markets are at a price-to-earnings ratio of 41. And the Tesla, I haven't looked for a few weeks, but I believe it was four, four Fridays ago. I looked, excuse me, and it was 400.01.

24:20That means that the level of mental retardation has risen right to the top that I sincerely believe that it's worth waiting 400 years to get my money back. That's how insane global financial markets are at the moment. So I'm saying to the person who listens to this podcast, you can bet your very bottom dollar that within this year, we're going to see a financial cataclysm, the likes of which the world has never seen. Therefore, within this year, you are going to be able to assess for yourself whether I am 100% right all of the time, exceptions aside, they're always exceptions. But the exceptions are so few that they prove the rule. Therefore, practical intents and purposes, I am 100% right all of the time when I make the proposition that everybody, always, reverts to type when reality bites.

25:25It's only during periods of excessive wealth and the breaking of the morals of a society and when the intelligentsia has so much influence over society, that they can propose to that society things which are patently nonsensical. So for now, you've got the upper hand, you're living wherever in the world in San Francisco and it's too good for words. Let's talk again in seven months time. And then you tell me, but dint of direct observation, what did you see occur when that thing burst? When it all came crumbling down as it's about to do, because many people don't even live to be 400 years, much less have an adult lifespan of 400 years to collect the original investment and Tesla back. You are going to see it happen before your very eyes.

26:25It's as simple as that. Everybody will be in group. Everybody with no exceptions in a very short span of time. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with in-group preference. Jews have made a great success of in-group preference. I have an in-group preference for my family. I will put my family before other families. Does it mean that I hate other families, Simon? No, of course not. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, I say to people, where have you ever heard of a guy paying his next door neighbor's children's school fees? There may be some exceptions here and there. We've all helped unfortunate children. But by and large, these wonderful, idealistic concepts exist only as long as it doesn't cost you. As long as it makes you look virtuous and so on,

27:26and it only takes such a marginal amount of your wealth that it scarcely counts. But when it really counts, all of the most politically correct people in all of the world, suddenly abandon these values. That's all about them and their family, and they put up a wall between them and their neighbor, and they try not to look over it, and they hope that their neighbor never looks over either. It's nonsense here. It astonishes me that anybody can fall for this way of thinking. You know, it's like when you see the immigrants into Britain, how anybody ever thought that was a good idea is beyond me. I will never understand how anybody was that stupid. Yeah, it was only one possible ending. Yeah, something that you and I can relate to is, of course, 1984 in South Africa, and what happened in the 80s and House of Africa changed.

28:27People around the world, unless they lived here, will never really understand. South Africa was established as a trading colony. It was a trading post in 1652 for the Dutch East India Company. Move forward a couple of hundred years, and those first European settlers have gone into the interior, and they've developed various things. They discovered diamonds and gold, and all of a sudden the British Empire takes a very strong interest in South Africa. The largest, greatest load of gold ever known to mankind. British Empire comes along, conquers the indigenous whites of South Africa. The origins? Yeah, the boors. And takes over South Africa from the year 1902, if you like, ish, through 1910, which is a key year, the establishment of the Union of South Africa by Great Britain,

29:27all the way through to 1961. So in all of that period, South Africa either didn't have a central government, or it was ruled by Britain. Britain, let's go of the colony, and we have... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. There were, I think, two boors states. Yes, there were, but there wasn't a central South African state. So the people that imposed the partate, the laws, the central laws, unquestionably, it's simply nobody but Great Britain. Come 1961, that's the inherited system. Great Britain leaves. We become an independent republic, and for 33 years, there was a thing called a partate. And that a partate was based on the laws imposed by Great Britain, largely to do with labour and poll taxes and what have you.

30:28Prior to that, there wasn't formal separation of races. There was effective separation of races. The white people came along and they said, Oh, we've got to teach our kids to read. Our kids, that's what we do. I can look my kid, but at the street. Whatever you're doing in your tribe has got nothing whatsoever to do with me. So, there was in a practical sense separation, but it was never at all legal until the British said, we've got to make this thing formal. And we've got to find a way to drive African labour from Quasulunatel, one of the provinces. And the Eastern Cape, particularly, but not only, onto the gold mines because the British, when they won the Boer War, took those gold mines for themselves, seven Jewish families, roughly speaking, which was obviously the key driver of the war. That entire war was about one thing and one thing only, and that was giving possession, because it wasn't advantageous to the British. It wasn't advantageous to the black people of South Africa and it wasn't advantageous to the Boers,

31:30who had set up a republic which happened, they didn't know in advance, obviously, to be sitting on the greatest load of gold, of history. So, the only people who benefited from the Boer War were those families. No other party participant to it benefited. Come 1994, the first multiracial elections after 33 years of apartheid, and the African National Congress wins, and all the laws are changed. No separate schools, no separation of schooling by race. The many black economic empowerment laws were brought in. In other words, you must have a super preponderance of black people working in your company, and there must be a super preponderance of black suppliers who supply to you. What happened post-94 was very, very strange

32:31because it was marketed as the rainbow nation. Now, that has been a complete failure of multiculturalism. Yeah, it doesn't work. It's like hip-hop and rap music in the USA. I'm not saying it's bad, but clearly, black people in the USA for reasons known best to them headed off in different musical directions, including jazz and blues and so on. And some of it's fantastic. I'm crazy about blues. It's just that it's resonant to me. But generally speaking, it doesn't come out of my culture. To them, it's the ideal. It has huge following, whereas you don't get overwhelming numbers of white people, singing the blues in the cotton fields. You know, it's not.

33:32So, the rainbow nation idea was cute, but I want to bribe with, that is to say, barbeque, with people who speak my language. I'm not against brying with black people. Let me give you an example. Classic example. Over recent years, there have been tremendous efforts to give land to black people to be farmed. And those efforts have been a terrific failure. But here in the Eastern Cape, there are some exceptions. We recently held an open day that involved horse riding. There were 167 competitors, not one black person attended. Were we offended? Were we hurt? Or was there a big drama? Did we write secret messages to one another saying,

34:34look how racist the blacks are? You know, Western mounted games, we kind of knew who wanted to participate in advance. We could have predicted it. If black farmers get together to celebrate a key holiday in their religion, so in ancestor worship, as they do at key times of the year, the chances of a white farmer arriving are exactly zero. I've never even heard of it. So the idea that we were all just going to blend in and adopt, you know, you take six-eighths of my culture and I'll take seven-thirteenths of yours and it's going to be delightful was always doffed. It was never predicated. On the instinct of tendencies or inclinations or preferences that come from within us

35:35that make weaver birds almost identical to one another that the marginal differences between them cause them to build their nest in absolutely different ways. The most curious way some are entered from underneath. Others are huge big colonies, where thousands of birds share one nest and each bird or each mating pair has its own sort of secret entrance. Tiny, tiny, tiny, minuscule differences in the species. Change behavior completely and anybody who knows anything about animals, all the farmers watching this will just be sort of sitting there unremarking because it's known to science. It's only not known. To the super-intellectualized of modern Western society. Civil war that might or might not arrive

36:37in the future, people will align with those who are most like them and that is why St. London's exists. It exists as an organization to bring together a particular group of people who might want to find themselves aligning with one another in that unlikely event. It's never worked any other way in all of human history. When things get tough, you revert to type. You abandon all of the ornaments that have no utilitarian value of yourself. Whether it be clothes or whatever the case may be. Just scrolling on TikTok. And you resort to the things that really count. And you do it in the most effective way. If I have to negotiate with you Jeremy, let's say you and I

37:39were in a life and death situation. And we had to find common ground over what prayers we were going to say. And to whom we were going to say them. You know, in desperation. Now panic stations. Hey, maybe we should call upon the Lord. Or what book we're going to read for him to grant, to glean wisdom. It doesn't work that way. I run to Jeremy because I know that 99 percent, 99.99 percent of what we are is absolutely identical. Language, origin, body strength, muscle explosiveness, IQ, tolerance for heat or cold or whatever the case may be. The differences between Jeremy and me are so little that it enables me to at once

38:40gain an ally and share the burden of risk. Okay, so then that also means by extension that it's not just a website or a group. I mean, there's actually a strategy. Yeah, as I said to you earlier, I've got some guests visiting and we were chatting about something. There's a concept that I've described many times. When I was a youngster, my chief sport was life-saving. Life-guiding, same thing. But you can do it as a sport all around the world. And I grew up at a beach that was world-famous for, at the 1974 world-life-saving championships, the Australians and the Americans refused to participate at that beach. They said it had to be moved. They said whoever thought that this was a safe beach for bathing needs their head red. People are going to die. This is one of the most dangerous beaches on the world in the world. Simultaneously, it had the record for the greatest number of shark attacks

39:44of any beach in the world at that time. So I grew up on a beach as a lifesaver, as a champion lifesaver in very, very dangerous conditions. And sometimes we'd swim out very far to the shark nets which are staggered like this. There's no other way to make them work. So the idea is that the sharks come in and they're with the betas, but they sense that they're trapped. Because to them, it looks like they're trapped. So they're as fast as they can outward and they get caught by the gills in the nets. And every Monday that anti-shark measures board comes along and pulls up the nets, pulls out the dead sharks and takes them away. If you swim out to the nets, it's very, very, very, very, very dangerous. I did it on a number of occasions with my friends and on every occasion, some clever dick smart Alec would say, as he's getting nervous, 15-year-old boy,

40:45knowing that he's being very reckless, would say, I don't have to be the best swimmer here today. I only have to be the second slowest if we see a fin. My point being that to go from, this is what I was discussing with my guest, to go from indefensible, to defensible, is not a matter of getting a cobra helicopter gunship. You don't have to have a machine gun to go from being very, very, very vulnerable to exceedingly less vulnerable. You only have to make minimal efforts. And our mentality is that if we provide basics, we don't have a trillion dollars to buy everybody let's say we get a hundred thousand refugees. So that's a hundred million rand in our money just on sleeping bags. About a thousand rand are sleeping bags, whatever that translates to in pounds.

41:46They've called it 50 pounds, however many dollars. Roughly speaking, just as a rule of thumb. We are never going to be able to conduct our national emergency plan in that manner. So we say, we're going to build a house. Everybody bring one brick. And we'll be okay. Because we won't be perfectly defensible. But the shark goes for the slowest swimmer. It goes for what's closest to him. The first people in any conflict to suffer are people who don't have groups around them. The head, the founder of shitheads of fan school is Jaco. Famous guru in the world of preppers. He lived through a year-long siege in Bosnia, Herzegovina as part of a small group of Croats that was trapped during the breakup of Yugoslavia. So for one year no electricity, no running water, no food. And he took what he learned then to the USA,

42:47made a lot of money and famously said, when I go dark, you know that the USA is about to go terminal. He said, I will know when it is. And he went dark sometime last year, I was told. Just went dark, shut down the websites I was told and can't be found. Anyway, the point being that he says he has a fantastic course we're used to have. In which he maps, what are the first, the first, the first, the first, the first of the first of the first things? Don't be alone. The vulnerability of an old lady versus the vulnerability of three heavy smokers is as far as the east is from the west. It's not that you have to be Jackie Chan and that you have to have a machine gun. As long as you've got 10 people around you who are moderately defensible, the jackals and the hyenas of this world

43:47will go for the little old lady every single time. So the idea of Saitlanders is we don't have to have the world's perfect plan. We just have to gather together as far as possible in one place and endeavor to remove ourselves from the conflict. If other people want a civil war, they're welcome to it. We don't. And together we will get by. We just have to fill in the blanks of the basic tenets of survivability. According to real life in the real world. So we have a national emergency plan to come together to support one another, to grow crops, to purify water, generate electricity. Young men provide a border, would stabilize a border, or protect a border, defend a border. Yeah, that's the long and the short of it, Jeremy. Yes, what I love about what you just said, though.

44:49Even if that kind of thing doesn't play out, the process of learning is still very valuable. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, very. I don't know that I'm going to make it. I believe in the prophecies of Sina Frunarensburg. And he said that in the January, February, March period, he used very specific words, yellow peach rains, yellow peach rains, and so they were going to fall between the first week of January, first week of March. Last week of January, first week of March, he said a cataclysm breaks out in the world. He said, after that, this prophet got to which I alluded to whom I alluded earlier. He said, after that, in about September or October, again, he did it by signs and seasons and how green the grasses and how cold the winter is. So we know that he was referring to sometime between September and October-ish. He said, that fire that rages across the world

45:51will come to South Africa. I might be one of the people who dies. That's real life in the real world. People died in the English Civil War, and nobody asked them, you know, how do you feel about this? Oh, sorry, man. In World War I, World War II, people were incinerated by the Americans wholesale in Vietnam, in the Vietnam War, in Iraq, the generally accepted figure on both sides of the aisle, of the number of innocent civilians that died during the American occupation is one million or more, not less. That's real life in the real world. The real life and the real world that we, modern people have been insulated from since forever, providing us the luxury of being able to over-indulge in drinking. And here I point the finger at me, not at you all,

46:51over-indulge in food, over-indulgence smoking, and not being healthy, and, you know, this and that bad behaviour with women that we all know what life in the modern world has allowed us to do. And to pretend that I'm a woman, though I've never once been straighted, not even once. I could squeeze my chest for a month of Sundays. I wouldn't be able to sustain an infant on it, and there is, but it is completely delusional, it's my point. But in what the time that we believe is emerging before our very eyes, it's not going to be a case of, can I guarantee my survival in such circumstances? Who could get aeroplane comes over and drops a napalm bomb on my Vietnamese village?

47:53But if all the villages of Vietnam, or many of them, certain, certain villages in Vietnam, had spent 20 or 25 years learning and practicing and rehearsing and meditating on improving their chances of survival, then there's going to be, there would have been a disproportionately high survival rate, among, let's say, among people, among people of Cambodia, there would have been a disproportionately high survival rate if all of the among people had been doing that. So we're not guaranteeing anybody anything, it's war for goodness sake, man, what do you think? But we are saying, if you make a little bit of effort, you will improve your chances of not suffering grievously, should such terrible events transpire, then if you didn't, and sorry Jeremy to hug the microphone, I want to make a brief last comment.

48:54I'm very close, I have three sons, and people remark on it all the time, you know, to keep us, I've never seen a father that's so close to his sons, one's twenty-five, one's twenty-three, and one is sixteen. And we maintain a very, very, very, very close relationship. I, more than anybody else, am terrified that Donald Trump is going to start World War III on the second of March, as per this occultic date, and that my sons' lives are going to be ruined forever. So please, if there's anybody watching this who has the idea that Simon just can't wait to shoot black people, he's just dying for it all to go down in South Africa and for families and children and everybody to die, you've got a rocks in your head.

49:54I think I felt as if I had to say that because some people really are dumb. I get it, but that's because I'm South African. But you know, something I was thinking about, Simon, is you look at China, right? It's got a super majority of horn people, about over 90 percent, I think, right? It's in many ways monocultural. Yes. And nobody accuses them of being racist for wanting to keep it that way. I watch ladies' real talk. I find it fascinating to get an insight into China, she's talking at the moment about the Xi Jinping's assassination of these two top generals who were opposing him going to war with Taiwan. So they were kind of lost obstacle and all these dramas going on at the moment at the highest levels in China. And I've watched so many hours of

51:01talk about these things that I understand exactly what you're saying. I've never been to China. My best longest friend, I always say to people, lives in China. And he's married to Chinese and we haven't seen each other for about 20 years, but he's for sure. I mean, we keep in touch and I adore him. So I know a little bit about China, but not much. And I've learned a lot from Lei. And one thing is clear, boy, it's my way or the highway. Let's say the we go people. I don't want to jump on that we go train. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to stir trouble. It's just the first ethnic name from China that comes to mind. We are predominant. You play by our rules. And that's the end of it. The Uighurs maintain their religion and I suppose cultural things and they do things their way. They tow the party

52:07line of the established culture that is imposed by the Hun people. But nobody accuses one another of being racist or it's you have your way. I have my way where I call the shots. I will call the shots where you have a preponderance of people. You're doubtless going to build mosques and you're doubtless going to talk a dialect that offends me but which is your dialect and which is precious to you. And you're doubtless going to make your women do that thing. And yeah, that's where it is. I don't think you're being a racist and I don't feel like I'm being a racist either. I mean I'm at the point now where I'm not even endeavouring to proselytise anymore. If the Americans wish to commit cultural suicide and Europe clearly wishes to do so well, so be it. I'm now at that point where it's just about me and my small group. It's you know that I was telling somebody

53:12earlier the three best things you can do as a prepo or survivalist by father three. I watch the documentary on YouTube, the two. The one is much inferior, the one is the other is much superior. And the long form I think is 243 minutes documentary on YouTube about the worst year in human history, the year 536 AD. And the 19 years after it when all of almost all of mankind nearly died or did die. Read the book Patriots by James Wesley Rawls and do the now no longer existing should hits the fanschool.com Jaco Course in which he makes it clear you don't have to go into a civil war with mortars and bazookas and what have you. All you have to to begin with to begin with first steps is have a team around you that's loyal to you don't be an individual particularly if

54:17you're old don't be isolated and go to a place that gives you favour because when you and your team are holed up in that in that space people will like an animal he uses the example he says we all watch those national geographic videos in his six six six six a Balkan accent in which we can't understand why the mountain lion didn't it would have killed the dog why didn't go for the dog because the mountain lion has to get through winter and it knows that it probably won't if it got a broken leg the dog has no chance against the mountain lion but it will enter the mountain lion and that's why predators usually go for very much weaker prey they don't go for prey that is just one echelon beneath them they go three echelons down and and I've lost my train of thought now but my point being that that if you just do the basics if you just observe and recognize the basics of

55:23human survival how people got through the worst year in history how who survived in Bosnia and Yugoslavia when it broke up and who died if you just follow the basics if you bit of common sense yeah people won't attack your house not because you're super duper duper super super defensible it's because you're not the weakest a gang of armed marauders who could easily beat you doesn't want to suffer a meat cleaver to the forest it's to the forehead you know they know they'll win like the mountain lion and the dog but they know that they'll take wounds that they'll regret so they always go for the for the weakest and I forgot where we started and I apologize to you Jeremy but somehow I thought that was relevant I think I've messed it up a bit I just realized that we went through this entire discussion saying saint landers but without explaining what it

56:26means it's an African sword I know we've we've had to explain this many times but it can always explain it again yeah people might translate it as southerners in colloquial English that's the word that we would use but it's a it's a it's a it's a translation that doesn't do justice to the offrican's language particularly certain terms used in the bible and therefore the bitter translation is south landers the people of the south land and yeah we are the the Europeans who occupy the southern tip of Africa yeah I mean the word saint landers I think just sounds better than saying south landers it's just a nicer it just flows off the tongue better okay well I mean as we come in for a landing uh Simon I was actually looking for a better a better metaphor the landing as we come in for a better help me out here with one that's relatable

57:31to our conversation as we come into the exit the moral of the story is what the moral of the story is that people can say and think and believe whatever they like cow legs walks on four legs men have certain characteristics women have other characteristics and in times of critical danger people always seek out those with whom they have the most in common and as we in the western world begin to explore a general cataclysm you know the invasion of Europe the the stock market madness all of these things as this boil or pimple comes to an inevitable head which everybody can see

58:34happening are you doubt or doft if you can't see that what I've just said is going to be proven right over and over and over again and the best thing that people can do is not attempt the impossible that is to say don't think oh gosh I think there might be a civil war in Britain one day I need an atomic bomb if you want to survive you just need a bunch of mates a bit of a plan a destination to head for you you need to be just a little bit defensible than the next guy you can buy lasers that are extremely powerful one one got burned up heavy heavy heavy boots and he switched it on and he immediately burned a hole through the boots he was trying to prove a point you can buy torches nowadays that can blind people pepper spray I've been pepper sprayed twice in my life and let me tell you it's very much worse than you might think it's completely debilitating buy yourself a bow and arrow buy a sling buy a catapult go to a safe place have a plan get some extra

59:38fuel the moral of the story is that trouble is coming and whether you like it or not you're going to find yourself depending upon those who are closest to you kith and kin you might as will start now and don't panic about not having some foolproof plan you don't need to be the fastest swimmer in the world you only need to be not the slowest and the moment you make that much effort the moment you do that much you already move let's say the there are 100 echelons of preparedness you're in it you're a male in your 40s and you're fairly healthy so you would like to believe that you're not in the lowest echelon you're an echelon number 30 to go from 30 to 70 or 80 is the easiest thing in the world to get to 100 yes you need a cobra helicopter gunship and you need nukes and all of that kind of stuff but to get yourself out of danger very far removed from the shock

1:00:40it's easy peasy so 100 liters of fuel it's some pepper spray it's a location that is a little bit more remote it's a clean water source it's some food and it's 10 buddies each armed with a catapult yes that's ridiculous against a nuclear bomb but most people never ever it's not how wars are fought in no war in history as 100% of the people died it's usually between 10 and 20% of the combatants so it's a small fraction in order for you to elevate yourself out of the most vulnerable that's small fraction exceptions aside some some of the best prepared people will also die but generally it's the most vulnerable for you to get from here to here easy easiest thing in the world do it do it like we're doing it here in South Africa safe landers and the website is safelanders.org no you just type safelanders.org there you see the spelling

1:01:44s-u-i-d-l-a-n-d-e-r-s dot-o-r-g that's our English language website all right summon rush thank you for joining me in the trenches no thank you very much for having safe landers Jeremy we always appreciate it