Shrinking - Season 3 Finale Discussion

what's up everybody and welcome to the core podcast my name is Kathleen I am

here with my co-host Brian to finish out our shrinking season three coverage we

did it in chunks so this one we're covering episodes 10 and 11 the

penultimate and the finale and yeah had me crying I can't lie there were tears

not until the end of 11 but really good I thought some of the B&C plots you

know really don't matter it's funny when you're taking notes I feel like it's

like these ones like the Charlie and the Brian it's like where they even

fleshed out of them going to Tennessee it's like not really but it's still

cute to watch and I thought they did a really good job of bringing everybody

together in these episodes especially since it's really to me felt like a

serious finale I think they could have ended it here but of course there's

still stuff to explore but if they really wanted to this would have worked as

a serious finale to me so interested to hear what you think I'm thinking the

same exact thing I almost would go as far as to say they should and here because

I just don't see where it goes I don't know we pick up in a new season and it

everybody's leaving you know and maybe the point of the show they they like

want to set it up that Jimmy finally does have to like go through life a little

bit alone and not with his people around him Alice is in college and they can

explore that but at the same time I kind of like having it ambiguous you know

like Paul set him up with Sophie at the very end and it's just like hey kid

like it's on you if you want to be happy you kind of have to like go out and

take it like and you deserve that but and I'm sorry to skip right to the end of

our two episodes but no I completely agree this had all the makings all the vibes

of a series finale do you watch the pit I don't okay so there's a little bit

tangent tea but the pit is an entire season based on one day so it's like a

15-hour shift or a 12-hour shift with the oldest day after whatever it is so

you're only in one day that means you get all the same characters all the same

storylines for an entire season that's the way I think that's like a

genius way to do an ER show specifically maybe for next season they could do

something like that not in a day but maybe like Paul's in town for something

for a week or two or like they're all in Connecticut for like yeah I'm trying

to think of how to get everyone together where it's not like you know we're

following everyone in their own different storylines for episodes at a time

and then we finally get the ensemble together because this cast and this show

works so well as an ensemble like my favorite scenes are when everyone's

together like when they're in the inner circle for Gabby and you get the

little quips of everybody because they're they're all their own characters

obviously but when together it's just it's electric so I'm trying to think of a

way they can do it moving forward since you know Paul's in Connecticut

Ellis is at college John is down the street which is fine but you know it's it's

just feel like everyone really grew in these episodes and then went off to do

the thing like I'm getting engaged just feels like huge big monumental things for

some of these characters and I'm just yeah I mean I'll take more of course

shrinking is a great show I'll take it yeah I agree the character interactions

like face-to-face or kind of the heart and charm of this show and like I was

saying like I don't know they could follow more extensively like Jimmy and Sophie's

relationship but I don't know if I would like the stick of like Alice is still

involved but like she has to zoom call in every morning and stuff like that's

like I don't know if I need that and I don't know it it kind of ended at such a

good point I know bad podcasting on my end has it been confirmed for another

season do you know yeah yeah oh okay so we are getting more shrinking yes interesting

well they're gonna do it well I'm sure like you said like I I will never say no to

more of this show because it is a good show but it will definitely just change

all the dynamic although I guess like Liz and Derrick will still be around

yeah and Derrick will still be around Sean still around so maybe it is just

Alice and Paul but Paul's the heart yeah they're kind of the heart I mean he's

like the patriarch of the show I don't know it like the whole thing revolves

around his gravitational pull yeah I yeah I would just think that some of my

favorite scenes are one Gabby stuff but Gabby and Paul Jimmy and Paul like you

know that that's where all the like really emotional stuff comes from yeah yeah

but let's get into it yeah let's get into these episodes do you want to start

with the storylines that we could just kind of rip through like Charlie going away

to Tennessee yeah so he's going away for three months and of course Brandon's

like I'm not doing that because why would he want to do that I don't want to

like I mean unless it's like in Nashville but it doesn't

if he was in Nashville they would say Nashville they're just saying Tennessee

which probably means middle and nowhere Tennessee and of course Brandon's like

I'm not doing that but eventually it gives in there's it's not much more

that's really it no it's and I mean that's growth for Brian because he

previously would have just been the guy that says no and that's the way it's

going to be because I don't want to but now he's like I got a family I got

something to think about I really love Charlie like this is cool I can do this

adventure I did get a kick out of when he was like talking to Jimmy I think it was

about reasons why not to it's like ah dude like you could easily leave your job

he's like yeah I haven't been to the office in like four months are you kidding me

hey look I think my boss forgets I exist but there was another scene

within this bucket where D1 someone makes a so it makes a Walmart joke

and then D1 pointed Gabby's outfit and Gabby saying my outfit's not from Walmart

the way she said it I was like the actresses actually laughing during this

because I would like if anyone hasn't seen it yet or gonna rewatch it

watch that moment because you could tell that Gabby was like about to break

during that moment and then right after Sean walks in and was like I was just

at a wake what's the emergency yeah no it wasn't an emergency I thought that was

like a really just golden shrinking right like bang bang bang

couple jokes right in a row it's that's why you watch the show absolutely yeah

I guess the other one is and there was some growth here for sure this wasn't

as a nothing burger but Sean and Jorge still fighting just got to say like I

don't really care about Jorge it's just not someone I care about but you know

like I kind of do I feel like they could have flushed him out a little bit more

and maybe it's just I care about the relationship between Sean and Jorge like I

kind of like that he has a friend outside of like the main shrinking therapy

group but they didn't really flush Jorge out so at the end of this statement I

will say I wound up not caring terribly much but exactly I'm glad they kind of buried the hatchet

and he got his tooth knocked out I would never square out with Sean personally even if I was

mad at him and I knew he wouldn't go hard against me because he's big dude speaking of the pit Sean

was just in the latest episode of the pit and yeah and I was like yeah that's my boy it was good

to see a patient no he's a doctor like a good one okay cool nice good one but yeah so this

just ends with Sean taking the apartment from D1 and like we said having to fix up some of Matthew's

repairs because we said I'm in a previous podcast we're like who would ever let Matthew do the

repair yeah this place the craziest and this the sink is facing upwards apparently it's a bidet

there's some all kinds of janky stuff happening but it's nice that he's getting out it does just

make you feel bad for Jimmy that everything is piling on all at once like Paul leaving Sean leaving

Alice leaving everyone is just evacuating all at once for sure Sean's still gonna be like a

blocker to away which I thought was funny funny reveals that and Jimmy's like don't ruin it man

this is this is still a big deal but I mean Sean he's got such a good network obviously with these

friends but he looked into like this awesome full house situation and now he's looking into this

like amazing apartment that he's probably getting for a song in California through Derek like oh

my gosh but no it's great he deserves it he's been through some shit so all this is just good karma

and Sean put in the work I'm proud of him even in the moments where Sean and Paul are in front

of the food truck and talking it out and Paul's like I'm not handing you this one buddy like I know

you're smart enough to figure this one out on your own like a couple seasons ago that would have

never worked and we've seen Sean grow we've seen him not beat the shit out of people when he would

have seasons ago and I just love Sean he's like he's the other heart of the show it's it's

that's a good thing about this show you could say that about anyone really yeah and the character

growth has been so tangible because like in season one one of like the big issues was how problematic

he was and just like yeah the mental stuff he was going through and now he's like I don't even

think about that as a part of his character because I I can tell he's just put it all behind him and

no he's such a great guy he's on the come up he's got his new job I am happy for a man I never

found myself like I'm so happy for the character they deserve it he's one of those characters he's

a teddy bear he really is he really it now he is yeah yeah just don't cross him because he can

still he can still throw a heymaker wait I'll take your tooth out ask for him for sure

whiz and D1 all the kids are home and then you find out that I think it's the oldest son will

will yeah what we don't know as much will map you Connor that's what I assumed and the girlfriend

is pregnant and you know they sit him down both of them they have this conversation and then as

soon as they leave both of them being so excited to do grandparents made me so happy like that

was just so sweet I loved it I mean Liz needed this let's be honest because Brian and Charlie were

finally like we kind of have to pull away but yeah she needed to can her life I like this arc

we're like they're trying to fit in the Barcelona trip before all this baby stuff happens and it's

kind of like Derek and Liz that was like a good little conflict where Derek was like I want

adventure I want to turn the page on the next phase of my life and Liz was like no I'm ready to be

grandma right now 24 seven like yeah that's my next phase alive but they struck this this nice

in between I think it's gonna be great for him but I loved the scene at the table where the three

boys are talking and they're like uh Connor's the new Matthew because Matthew's like sneaker business

on the come up and stop and then summer was like hey who uh raise your hand if you thought I

would be the first one to get pregnant and everyone's like yeah Connor was taking L's left and right

in this he was taking L's from his brothers he was taking L's from summer and Alice just

absolutely destroying him and any they're like you ruined us but um you know what I didn't like is

the summer's mom with Connor being creepy lines they're saying basically that like summer's mom

is like touch you to Connor and like unzipped his pants or something I was like okay okay I don't

like that no that sometimes they take it like an ounce too far in certain things and I'm like no

no pull that one back pull that one back but the overarching theme of all of these B plot storylines

is just compromise right yeah Liz is compromising with Derek Derek wants adventure she's gonna go do

it Brian compromising with Charlie and going to Tennessee Gabby which we'll get to with D2 and

getting over her kind of stubbornness and her like past trauma and her past you know habits and

things to move forward with him and so that's the most ridiculous one like I get it but I don't get it

and I'm glad she brought what is she she called the inner circle and they're all just like dude he's

like the most gorgeous man ever and treats you like a queen like what are we overthinking here like

and he wants to get married oh what was you I feel so bad for you Gabby get over it

you know what I love about Gabby is that they stick with the dorkiness of her 24-7 they never

like the my precious which really hates because guess what I just watched Lord of the Rings the

first one for the first time in my life this past weekend interesting yeah well now I got to ask

what were your thoughts on that so I don't have the nostalgia piece like my wife I'm saying my wife

of course you know her name is Alex yeah she loved it she watched it as a kid it was kind of like

Harry Potter for for me for you I'm sure you're a Harry Potter kid too yeah that feels nostalgic to me

if you were to put it on it would it would make me feel something so I don't have that piece

that aside I thought it was really cool that was very long like extremely long I thought

there was one part that I was like that's kind of the coolest thing I've ever seen which

will take off lines I don't want to spoil let's kind of at the end but you know I don't know

that I would ever watch again but I'm gonna watch the whole thing like I'm gonna keep going with

all the movies I think fellowship of the ring is fair game for spoilers at this point but

I'm sure our audience appreciates you there's someone who's like yes I'm glad she didn't spoil it

I'm gonna watch it tomorrow yeah totally y'all should watch it no um but I thought it was good I

have like longer of course thoughts but I I did like it I did I wasn't like that was the best

thing I've ever seen it was just like so much happening for a three hour movie it felt very fast

paste in like we're here we're there we're here we're there oh issue here issue here we're like

just running all around the town and I'm trying to remember everyone's names and like these are

crazy so you know it was good um I'll keep everyone updated on another podcast on my Lord of the

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in the dark anyway stuck on her finger classic stuck on her finger trope right like happens all

the time love the ring though my wife herself has a green ring love it love the coolness of it

but yeah i'm glad that they ended up going for it i thought the proposal itself was divine

i love that they brought it back to that cornhole bar that they're always at yeah i thought they

did that really in the right way and was proud of Gabby for for pushing through and going for it

and then were you were you surprised at all that D2 is like endgame for or is that do you think that

no not at all i know like the second he walked into the show because he's a Derek i mean

you don't get better than a Derek plus he's like a good looking dude they just clicked i don't know

and when she was going through her little spell after losing a patient like he was so supportive

in all the right ways like you could just tell they're a great match another comedic beat that was

beautiful and perfect was right before Gabby gets to the cornhole bar and Liz is there being like

like she's mad at you she found the ring blah blah blah Gabby comes storming in and D1 goes

here she comes run and it was so funny like the delivery was perfect and maybe like

buckle out loud so funny so good it was a good proposal that's another if the ring stuck on the

finger wasn't a good enough trope like the wife proposing to the husband is another trope that's

been done to death but no it was great yes the hey i know a lot of people here and that is like

why is my podiatrist here shadow my podiatrist now it was great yeah yeah it was funny and

we'll get back to Gabby when you know we kind of talk about Paul and Jimmy's big fight or really

Jimmy's big fight because Paul was just taking it and being like bro what's going on yeah let's

kind of start the Jimmy's self with Randy his dad yeah so Randy meets Paul and I remember

us saying in a previous episode that we kind of want to Randy and Paul to have it out yes but it

didn't happen Paul was perfectly respectful to him and says like oh the tea a thing that must have

been really hard for you right and they kind of have this conversation I wanted him to beat him up

I want it Paul to beat Randy's ass yeah I didn't I mean I just don't think Paul needed to intervene

like that I think it was just he's been talking to Jimmy and probably reading between the lines

over the years whenever he talked about his dad I'm sure he knows what like the issues there are

I took it as this might have been the first time they met face to face like actually so I think

this was just the proof that Jimmy everything he thinks about his dad and kind of the issues he has

like he just got to see where they all came from with Randy and like in this two-minute thing

he downplays Jimmy being a therapist says oh yes just like whatever you can tell Paul's piss but

I just don't think it was his time to like unload on the guy or anything because what what are

you gonna change you know you're 100% right but in my heart I wanted him to beat his ass and that

would kind of show Jimmy how much Paul cares about I don't think Paul's in the position to beat

anyone's ass right now well yeah in theory you know Paul's got that like he could beat someone's

ass verbally with his words absolutely I wouldn't have minded that I wouldn't have minded that

this was such like a slimy episode for Randy too because like he takes it up until the morning

of graduation or like the day before graduation to tell Alice it's like I don't know he might have

been my least favorite character in the show and that's obviously by design but like I hate people

like that I mean the batting cage scene and seeing we've seen Jimmy really sad in this series right

of course yeah but you've never seen him so deflated as when he's talking to his dad and his dad

is just like actively letting him down this batting cage scene was so sad I mean this guy is the

worst he says what do you want for me and Jimmy says it plain as day cancel the trip go to the

graduation and he says I'm not that guy what do you mean you're not that guy you go on your grand

daughters thing it's like not even a question not even a conversation I can't imagine a grandfather

the mental gymnastics to get to the point where it's like yeah I need to take this fishing trip

and it's such a shame because we didn't really say after the Randy and Paul conversation I think

Jimmy and Paul talk about it where Jimmy's like frustrated and Paul's like we'll have you talk to

your dad about it right and he's like no and Paul's like you can't really get that angry at him if

you haven't like explicitly told him what you want and what like why you feel frustrated

which I think Jimmy knows it's a useless effort like even if I do talk to him he's going to let

me down again like I've played this game but he swallows his pride and tries to have the conversation

like Paul instructed him to do and again it's like the guy let's him down in real time let's him down

none of this like ah maybe I'll make it like he says I need you there he says I'm not that guy

and not only that he says and I'm tired of having this conversation like I'm done with it as if

to say Jimmy you're the bad guy for inconveniencing me and putting me through this conversation it's

like yep and you could tell that Randy still treats him like a kid that he can talk down to like that

because he's like let's go get some ice cream I'll go buy you an ice cream and it's like yeah

you could just imagine Jimmy's childhood and he's like you know your mom's the one who would

deal with all the emotion stuff oh so icky you're right it's so icky god yeah and I mean Paul obviously

gathers everything that happens with Randy and this scene and he has the context of years of

like talking to Jimmy and I just think like this probably validates the relationship that Jimmy

has always needed from Paul like kind of that fatherly figure that he clearly never had and this

like this was a great way to get us to the final final scene when Paul is finally there for Jimmy

and like lays his heart out and it's like I should have said all these things like years ago but

I've always felt this way like it you have to see him go through the the ringer with his dad

to then get to the set up with Paul and yeah and we we will get there because I have so much to say

about the the downfall of Jimmy and Paul at the end of episode 10 but first let's I want to talk

about the graduation really quickly because one Alice seems to take it okay from the grandpa right

there doesn't actually seem to be any any issues later in the episode I thought she was going to say

yeah it's okay don't worry and then later be like I really wish grandpa was here but no we don't

we don't really get that but my issue here cannot believe that the entire crew was not at this

graduation like I don't understand how it was just Jimmy in the crowd I think they were the show

is trying to show us like it's just these two like the dad didn't show up like meeting Randy it's

just Alice and it's just but that's not true the show has gone above and beyond to show us that

Alice had her soccer game she's she filled the entire stands with people screaming her name yelling at

the raft so you know what I mean like she has a crew and it's not always your blood relatives but

it's your chosen family they go above and be and of course everyone's at the party but I do think

they were just trying to show us like it's just those these two in the house these of the last two

left took type of thing but another side tangent have you ever seen Gilmore girls no actually that's

yeah yeah so in Gilmore girls when Rory and and the whole thing is like Lorelai and Rory right single mom

whatever when Rory is graduating high school she's a valedictorian and she's giving a speech

they have like the chosen kind of family like Lorelai it looks there and Sukis there and everyone's

there and everyone's weeping in the crowd whatever it's such an emotional moment like it's

incredible it's one of my favorite Gilmore girls moments and I'm like why is Liz and Gabby not in the

crowd weeping like filling the crowd with their tears I just don't understand why they did that

they made that later in the later in the episode at the party they're like given Alice stick for like

oh so you just bought that dress without letting us take you shopping and I'm thinking to myself

you guys didn't even bother to show up to the graduation can you get whatever dress you want

I love that even her that that stick but like I was like yeah where you at and I totally think

it's it's what you were saying I think they made that choice just have this moment be Alice

and Jimmy like kind of a turning of the page uh yeah so I can't knock him for that and the Jimmy

with the sign was was cute and it's really cute yeah and the conversation about Tia and the car when

she wasn't like letting him finish the sentence but knew what he was gonna say and they were just

kind of like nodding being like okay yeah you know was the biggest shocker to me is that

I was confused about Paul moving to Connecticut I know that Meg told us but then they never

talked about it again they never had a moment of Paul telling everybody I'm moving to Connecticut

I was like is he is he going on a trip to see Meg is he moving I was confused and I thought maybe

I missed something and I get it Meg told us but I thought we were missing a scene somewhere where

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but also that's not Paul's style like he's not one for pomp and circumstance and having a party

thrown for him and in fact I think at the graduation party they said this is also Paul's good

by party right so that I was like to use yeah right I'm like oh okay confirmed because but I

agree the whole stuff with like Gabby taking over the practice and turning it into the trauma center

is Paul retiring right like it's not like they were like he's retiring and moving away it's like he's

retired so yeah I don't know it's not that big of a deal but I was like oh okay we had to make

that jump we had to make the jump that that's happening it's happening right now it's not that

big of a deal but it's still a deal it's still a deal yeah sure okay I want to hear your thoughts

on Jimmy picking this fight with Paul I don't know it's like I get it and I think this was

just he needed a release of emotions like you were saying earlier so many things are happening like

right at the same time and there definitely is some abandonment stuff going on his dad was

just in town and brought that whole whirlwind that's clearly a trigger for Jimmy like his dad

and that relationship is one of the biggest things that like sets him off as we've seen and I just

think he's not going to blow up at Alice he's not going to blow up at like Sean or anything like

he needed a release of emotions to Paul and it like even mid-argument he admitted that some of it

was illogical because he was yelling at him so what you're just giving Gabby the practice and Paul

was like I thought we talked about this I didn't think you had any interest and he was like I don't

have any interest still would have been nice for you to tell me and fill me in you just like so many

people are leaving and you know it like he doesn't resent anybody for like Alice is graduating

going to college what are you gonna do Paul's moving back with his family for the last however much

time he has left like what are you gonna do that's but I don't know he just he just needed a

release of that emotion and I don't think it was targeted at Paul I just think he's the only one

that would be there to listen and could take that the right way in a constructive way and then kind

of bounce it back to him with some good feedback as we see later what I didn't appreciate was someone

even I think Gabby even says yeah y'all are fighting like some middle schoolers right now giving

each other the cold shoulder in the wake of this because I hated that Jimmy did not see him off

for the plane I was hoping that they would have kind of the the coming together before he flew away

but they have to make it even more dramatic and have to so but the actual blow up it was intense

but I don't know sometimes those emotional intense scenes are the good ones in the show so I

liked it it's just so upsetting to see and knowing that Paul's leaving Paul's also sick moving away

and to me it's like Jimmy I get that he's in this like highly emotional state but you're at Alice's

graduation party and you're gonna like kind of make it about yourself and just start screaming at

this like father figure in your life who has been there for you and he also knows Paul like he

knows that Paul's not the type of guy who's gonna say thank you thank you thank you I love you I

love you I love you like it's just he knows this guy with his whole soul and like he's expecting all

this stuff and I get it like you said there's so much going on but I don't know it just didn't sit

right with me and then the scene the ending scene of this show of this sorry of this episode 10

was Zach Bryan playing I think is um I think the song's called like I remember everything but

it devastating like Paul's sitting on all this stuff texting Jimmy being like I'm about to leave

my cars here and Jimmy is just ignoring it is I didn't love it but I get that you have to like

it's the conflict that leads us to the resolution but it's still like if it's me and I'm a very anxious

person and like Paul does that and then even if Paul comes or Paul leaves and we get in this big fight

and then Paul comes back for that one minute they had to have the conversation before he goes to

sit with Sophie I would never forget it I would never forgive myself for for blowing up like that

and I get they make up but I don't know it just made me sad but another big thing that kind of

happens in this fight is he admits that he slept with Meg which was yeah just such a Jimmy moment

to out himself in the middle of something and he's like oh damn it why don't I say that and

Meg cools a cucumber later when Paul drops it is like oh he told you huh okay

understood Meg's a cool character she doesn't like air and it's also the added layer of

Paul hates her current husband Dave yeah or whatever his name is so you probably wouldn't care

about that but I don't know so I'm I'm kind of hearing you you were a little upset at Jimmy

for doing this oh big time that really oh okay big time huge uh you you can say Paul isn't that

kind of guy but I also do think Jimmy was warranted and kind of calling him out for being a little

arrogant and a little unappreciative of everything that Jimmy has done for him we we sold like earlier

this season like Jimmy was just like running errands for him like just when he took a term for the

worst sick wise he was in like the storage unit like looking for his old notes and stuff like he's

driving him to work every day and Paul's not that guy he's not the thank you so much and to be

overly gracious but like throw the kid a bone especially you're a therapist you know that Jimmy's

the sort of guy that needs that and I don't want to call him weak or soft because that's he's been

called that like two or three times five fallen Randy and he's not that but he is a little bit more

needing of positive reinforcement sometimes and a lot of people just need that more than others and

Jimmy or rather Paul is not the person that's likely to give it to him so if you go through years

and years of years of a relationship like that I get it and again this is this is just the the

emotional release it wasn't all about Paul but a lot of it was about Paul and I it's even the

Gabby thing like even if they had that conversation years ago that Jimmy didn't want to practice a

heads up would be nice because they have planted these seeds it it is known that Jimmy is like the

protege like there should have been a conversation where Paul's like hey Jimmy we talked about this

while back but I really want to give Gabby the practice I think she would crush it and Jimmy would

have been like that's the most amazing thing I've ever heard yes do it but that didn't happen so you

could it's not like sneaky but it's just like give him a heads up well yeah and to be fair it's

Jimmy's job so you should tell him just to say hey you're gonna have to find another place to

work yeah he didn't seem to bother by that therapist in California look at the guys house he's

doing fine I know but there's a lot of conversations that just don't happen on the show it's like hey

FYI I'm leaving Gabby's taking the building you're gonna have to figure it out or hey I'm

moving a Connecticut which I didn't know about so um but yeah I mean this last scene with Paul

after you're you're watching Jimmy just be a sad boy right and you watch him with Alice and

planning her last day to have control and Paul lays it out for him like you had this really

terrible thing happened out of the blue right so now you try and control everything so there's

no more surprises and so you want everything to be perfect and you just you know that's just not

how it goes so we try to have a perfect day with Alice he ends up making summer and Alice make up

after their fight and then that in turn screws up Jimmy's perfect goodbye with Alice as well because

summer it's just so annoying and I love her to death because they're her just popping in an

hour being like hey so this is coach right I have your card in my app so I'll just like run it

last time I was in an airport by myself I got taken to Bolivia or whatever Argentina

I love Morocco thank you I love that the the decoy to get summer to come to the ice cream place

he told sir that he wanted to like hook up with her mom or something like that so you are the

most gullible person in the world by the way yeah so easy to trick but I thought the Paul and Jimmy

stuff this was beautiful I was crying watching this because Paul finally says all the things that

he wants to hear but he says that you need to you need to knock it off you need to let go of some of

this old the past this old trauma if you want to move forward you got to make the right decision

which would you go with Sophie we will talk about this last scene I don't want to glance over the

scene in Connecticut where Paul needed to be pushed to read out to Jimmy by all the girls and I

loved how they just cornered him like four on one it was summer Meg Julie and Alice are just like

dude what are you doing that guy needs you and you're just like not gonna talk to him at all but

no it was perfect he calls him like want to get breakfast but how about we do it today and he's

there for him and he's like I only got an hour I'm like flying right back out but you're absolutely

right it's life gave you this curveball and it sucks but like you are equipped to deal with a lot of

this stuff yourself and if you keep like needing me and reaching out like I can't always be the one

that shakes it out of you like you got such a good support system you have all the tools sometimes

you just got to go for it yeah totally it was good this was really good scene

it's like cut it here honestly that's that's where I'm at like it it is a very important thing to

end a show on great terms yep if this was the lasting image of this show it would have enhanced

the overall experience for me and that's not to say that the next season can't add value and do

its own thing great but this felt like such a good uh ending of the show yeah I mean this show

is all about these big emotional moments so to end the show they're gonna have to do these big

type of things again right like we just had it everyone Paul or sorry Jimmy is in a really like

sad place right now and then he has this moment with Paul and it's big this big sweeping emotional

moment with Paul in order to have that again for the eventual series finale you're gonna have to

do this all over again so it's like the longer you have a show like this just the more

downs you're gonna have to give these characters to bring them back up yeah so it's just that's

what I'm thinking of when I'm saying like to to move forward with these characters who I love is

is to torture them a little bit you know yeah that's a good point yeah yeah I want to see you get

tortured no more it was just going back to like the actual quotes that we're saying they were talking

about scars and Jimmy's like hey Paul I got a lot of scars and Paul says what a shame to be 42

years old not be absolutely covered with scars they're the evidence of a life fully lived just

like Mike drop yeah I just I don't know they they crushed in this scene they did they did yeah it

was good I mean listen I'll have I'll take more shrinking we'll just have to see we'll just have

to see where they go and you know it's interesting because I'm just now remembering that the creator is

the same but this reminds me if you've ever watched scrubs which I'm not sure if you have but

this surely people have the Jimmy and Paul relationship is very similar to Dr. Cox and John

Dorian JD the main characters relationship where Dr. Cox is kind of this like hardass doctor

like emotionally unavailable and everything like that and JD clearly seeks out this fatherly

relationship and in the last episode of the season JD leaves the hospital and he says is good

buys and he walks down the hall and then he like kind of pays an intern to like trigger Dr.

Cox and be like oh thank god JD's gone like I thought he would never leave he wasn't that good

of a doctor and only when JD's gone and he's still hiding like in the hallway just Dr. Cox be like

actually he's one of the best doctors I've ever seen and I'm gonna miss him as a friend as a person

all of this and it's pretty much this exact same thing that Paul finally gives yeah give me what he

wants and he explicitly says it he's like I shouldn't even have to say this because I hope you

know but I love you you're not a burden to me you're like a son I don't know why I haven't said

that before I think you're strong I don't think you need me but if you think you do then I'm here

for you oh my heart yeah I was I was tearing up I had to go fine I had to go find my wife and

give her a big hug after because good good good now it was it was great I I can't claim to

actually specifically remember each of the season finale's but yeah I have to I feel like this

was probably the best one yeah I agree anything else on your side you got anything written down

you want to talk about not a gosh diggy darn thing that was good another season in the books

all right perfect so since this is ending just want to point you in the direction so on this

feed we're doing your friends and neighbors um John ham if you haven't seen it easy to catch up

there's only a few episodes out of season two so you can just quick binge season one it's really

fun and then on binge empire right now we are doing the bullways just starting which is just

gonna be amazing I haven't I we only started a little bit of season one and I'm so sorry

we just started episode one a little bit and I'm so in so the boys are covering that

we're also finishing up invincible on that feed and I think that's it for right now but coming up

down the pipe we're gonna cover house of the dragon season three when that comes up from

this coming up we've got all kinds of things uh coming up so go check that out links

in the bio to the two different podcasts join our discord also link in the bio really fun

over there but that's it we are the core podcast thank you for listening to our shrinking coverage

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