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Should the Browns Prioritize Caleb Downs or Offensive Line in Draft?

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Ken and the team examine whether the Cleveland Browns should target safety Caleb Downs or focus on rebuilding the offensive line. They debate the best player available strategy while reacting to audio clips about Ken's alleged bias against Ohio State. The discussion wraps up with a look at the MAC tournament matchup between Akron and Kent State.

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Should the Browns Prioritize Caleb Downs or Offensive Line in Draft?

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The Ken Carman Show with Anthony LimaShould the Browns Prioritize Caleb Downs or Offensive Line in Draft?. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

0:00Hey there, I'm Kendra Adachi and my show The Lazy Genius Podcast helps you be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't and you get to decide what matters. I'm not here to tell you what to do, I'm here to give you a new way to see. Episodes of The Lazy Genius Podcast are full of compassionate time management tips and permission slips to do what makes sense for you. New episodes drop every Monday. Follow and listen to The Lazy Genius Podcast on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Transcendent Player and we would take Caleb Downs, but I really think for the Browns the first three picks I've got to come down to most likely are receiver and two offensive linemen one on the

1:04outside, one on the inside because even though you've added all these pieces, you still need air appearance and you need people who are going to be able to take over. We've got a lot of new listeners here over the last year. In fact, a guy named Mike just sent me an email, very nice man, Steelers fan who's listening. Wow. He loves the show. I love when Steelers fans listen and I love to throw out in pony's face and Steelers fans listen to me. I love to rub his nose in it as you should and we appreciate all you Steelers fans, even though we don't get along on our football teams, appreciate all you Steelers fans listening to me on the free us on the free Odyssey. No, just kind. Well, because I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to internalize it here folks. I want to see how well these folks know me because I ain't going to compare them to Ed Reed. You go back to you watch about three seconds of Ed Reed from college, you go, nope, no one's touching Ed Reed. So people like, oh my god, he's the next Ed Reed. Ed Reed was a different animal. Miami, man. Caleb down is pretty damn good. Yeah. And if we're talking best player

2:09available here folks, you know, I don't know what's going to open up at six. You can't just shut them off because he doesn't play offense. And why I have to throw the challenge out there about how well you know me, I already can see it coming over the next month and a half. The Caleb Downs conversations open up and I'm just going to tell people, hey, we can't be closed minded. And you know what they're going to say. The ones who don't know me, the ones who do know me, well, you know where this is going. Well, you just like him because he's on a state player. Who's just like to play a little high state? That is not why you like him. Nope. I don't hate Ohio state. And the ones who do believe that I'm sorry, but you have been worked into a shoot by Anthony Lyma. How dare you believe the slippery wizard? I don't hate Ohio state. I just I didn't go there. They didn't put no money in my pocket. I look at the difference. I hate Ohio state. You know, we're in an AI age. I'm going to have to ask you guys to stop that because people are going to believe

3:10that it's not true. Those are two clips put together. I hate Ohio state. That's not real. That is not a true thing. You can't tell that's that's stitched together. It sounds that is stitched together by the late by the late great still alive Kenny kid. I hate Ohio state. Listen, man. You may talk like him. Sometimes you ain't never going to be the guy in the leather vest stitching words together. Who do you like? I don't mind Ohio state. Okay. What player? Caleb Downs. I hate Ohio state. I know what you just did to me. You bastard. You're what I call a buffoon. Stop laughing. It ain't funny. Yes, it is. Anyway, so I'm going to find out just how many people actually know me and know the show because if I say I like Caleb Downs and I do like Caleb Downs,

4:13like guys, I'm just not going to like I can't imagine that on draft night. If even if car and L Tates there and they go and they go Caleb Downs is the pick. I ain't I don't think I'm going to be ripping them on draft night if they took Caleb Downs, man. I mean, I don't think he's a player to rip them over. The second best safety is as a way is away from Caleb Downs. I agree, but it's just not a need. Well, taking best player available. This is not a good football team. You just you and I just argue about this team playing in this division. You need good football players. You do, but you need them more on the offensive side of the ball. If you need with best player available, boy, I'm going to be out of a job pretty damn quick. Let's say he's the best player available at six, which I don't think will be the case, but let's say that's what this whole exercise is. But like based on what Nathan just told me, I don't think I think Jeremiah Love is a better prospect than him. And I don't I think you're running back number six. No, but I think he'd be the best player available. Okay. Is what I'm saying. So that is part of this argument too. Okay. How how much is the difference between Caleb Downs, which if you want to call him

5:17the best player available, that's probably a different argument. Okay. And Carnell Tate or whatever number one wider receiver you have in terms of best player available. Now the gap between Caleb Downs and the number two safety significant. But if Caleb Downs is quote unquote the best player available at six, what is the gap between him and the best offensive player available? Because it's not as big as the gap between Caleb Downs and over the number two safety is. It's not nearly as big. So you're saying you'd rather trade down then. Potentially you're it. Yeah, I feel that that way. I really feel that way too. That's almost more heresy than trade than taking Caleb Downs. Probably going to be really good. I've made my mind. Do you want to be like Caleb Downs? No, I like Caleb Downs just fine. That's not what I haven't made my mind up yet. I hate Caleb Downs. No, come on. Dude, that sounds good. No, it doesn't. It sounds like hell. You said it. I hate Caleb Downs. I didn't say you said it again. I hate Caleb Downs.

6:20Life can feel overwhelming, but all my podcasts from the heart with Rachel Brayton were in it together. Every Friday a new episode brings you a new story with topics on motherhood, wellness, self love and more. Listen to from the heart with Rachel Brayton wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to put people on the test this this month with what because I guarantee I'm going to if we start talking about Caleb Downs, I got I got very little downside of Caleb Downs, man. I think he's a hell of a player. I think wherever he ends up, he's going to be a hell of a player. I think he's going to be a very good pro. I don't think he's going to get lost in the sauce. I do think that yes, taking a guard or taking a safety in the top 10 is always been a big X and you're not supposed to do that. I get that. But if he's the best player there, we're talking about this draft, how much of a fall off it is. I need a guaranteed bonafide starter. I think they're going to be able to do that now. You're talking about already a football team that I think what they tendered the second round pick with Ronnie Hickman. So I don't think that they're really going to go in that direction. But again, it's the draft. And if I can't make anybody trade with me, that's another damn thing. Is anybody going to be willing to trade up to go after another guy at

7:22number six overall? It is Tyson Simpson going to be that much of a of a target for people to go after. See, this is part of it. But I wish like I want them to get the conversation going because of the browser saying they like Tyson Simpson so much. And it's like, okay, you draft Tyson Simpson at number six overall. But if the conversation gets picked up about Tyson Simpson and you get some teams are going, hey, maybe I really like Tyson Simpson. Okay, we've seen crazier things. We've said Anthony Richardson went number four overall guys. So if we're looking at a guy like Tyson Simpson, things get nuts. If somebody wants to trade up with us, I'll have that conversation. Well, somebody could trade up for somebody else too. Someone wants to trade up for Caleb Downs. I think it's more likely to do it with a quarterback, though. Yeah. And so if I wanted to trade out of it, I'd like to trade out of it. But if I'm forced to make that decision and take a guy in those 10 minutes, they give you, maybe I end up taking Caleb Downs. And I know that that's not going to be popular with some folks out there. He's still a quality football player. I know they already have a great defense. And I'm not just saying it because he's in Ohio State secondary player. Well, yeah, you hate Ohio State. I don't

8:25hate Ohio State. You do. I don't. I don't hate Caleb Downs. I certainly don't hate Caleb Downs. I don't hate Caleb Downs. I don't hate Ohio State. How do you feel about Carnell Tate? He went to a player. It doesn't matter as long as I say his name, he's going to be able to put it together. Name Carnell Tate. Please. I guarantee. Now, I hate Caleb Downs. I'm calling him CT. Wow, a whole sentence. Go Zips. Try that. I said it. Go Zips. Remember that. I know it's hard to be the team three times in a row. I'm nervous. It is. I've seen it done before. I've been done before. Boy, don't take it. All you, all you Akron fans, all you Kent State fans as well. Don't take it for granted, man. I mean, these these two fan bases have earned. I've owned this tournament. You got to earn it. They've done it. Have a wonderful weekend, friends. Have a wonderful tall boy Friday. Blessings to all you.

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